What is that next to the Sun ?

[Mutchie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJcBPy4FHc&feature=share&list=LLPwcZ5isRuWAlofRed5izrAHello i have come across a youtube user who calls his channel Logansrunning and he is very much into the whole space/comet ison debate. Just yesterday he released a video and he seemed VERY EXCITED about it. In the video which was taken in his own backyard he has very clear footage of 2 suns :confused: Now im no expert but i had a good look at it and sure enough it looks real to me. I have read the comments and everyone seems stumped by it !!! Infact the guy Logan is actually teasing people to try and de bunk the footage ... he claims ison may not be a comet and he states that the object next to the sun is getting closer and closer its obvious he thinks we have trouble coming !!!

PLEASE EITHER DEBUNK IT OR TELL ME WHAT THAT IS ????????????????????:confused:

Okay he has just added another video he has caught it again day 2 and he is saying he is going to his local papers with it in the hope of getting answers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEzZbLGCb4

[Chip]

The clouds are behind it!
That's all I'm gonna say.

[ghostrider]

our sun is protected , by an ancient presence that can change size and shape , DR. Norman Bergrun called them EMV's ... 18 of them can absorb all the energy of the sun ... I think the object is an EMV ... they have left saturn and being on the way here for some time now ... accordin to James Horak there are 333 of them in our milkyway ...

[Mutchie]

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[/COLOR]Hi there folks - Ghostrider im aware of THE EMVS and have been for a while i think one of them was parked on the dark side of the moon but that is for another thread . What got me about this video was how clear the object is i mean i have seen a lens flare and it just cannot be that so what is it ?:confused: hold on Ghostrider you think THAT IS AN EMV ? WOW i had not even considered that and i dont know enought about them to say otherwise !!!

[ghostrider]

the EMV's farm the energy of the sun , place it in the rings of other planets where it is bombarded with cosmic rays , then placed on earth , jupiter , mars , etc ... the tiny microbes , the building blocks for sentient life ... I tried to look at the sun during on OBE but , was politely turned away like a two yr old walking the wrong way ... theses EMVs are ancient , I'm talking billions of years old ...

[Mutchie]

Is that an EMV that is on the dark side of the moon ? I take it the American along with other goverments know about these EMVS ? did you say they are sentient ? as in artificial intelligence ? WOW

[ghostrider]

sentient as in they create the microbes that make any world able to sustain intelligent life ... they farm the energy of the sun keeping it stable , and they hold earth together , our nuclear test in the 50's did things to the crust that caused the EMV to set up an operation in Nevada , running a huge stone earth shaft that balances out the mantle from the madness of nuclear scientist ... the vatican watches the sun , they know the EMV's are known as the hand of God ... If people only knew how many spirits , ET's , EMV's are pulling for us , the world would change right now ...James Horak can give you all the information you could ever want about the EMV's ... stop by his website , there are lots of videos on EMV's ...

[LivioRazlo]

Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly is an EMV?

[Sidney]

He says it can't be seen with the naked eye.. From looking at the video, it SEEMS like you would be able to see it with the naked eye. As big as it is. That is what has me stumped.
The video does indeed look authentic. And the clouds passed over the second "celestial body, whatever it is", so it appears to not be a lens flare or artifact.

But he could not see it with his eyes. Hmph:nerd::unsure: I don't know what it means, but It is a curious thing.

[Mutchie]

An Electro Magnetic Vechile - I have just watched a video by Professor Jim Macanney he says the worlds goverments are not letting on just how DANGEROUS this comet Ison might be. He is warning everyone to get prepared !! I have already seen the attitude on other threads that we have heard this all before and that might be true BUT WHAT IF ?:confused:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y243hQZGZX8

[lizfrench]

It looks like Sarsta...the engineering biosphere ship belonging to the Andromeda Council. You can watch the material regarding the 12 biospheres of the Andromeda Council. It is in full view of the earth population, they want you to know they are here. Here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o60ZYqLrEH8

[Mutchie]

It looks like Sarsta...the engineering biosphere ship belonging to the Andromeda Council. You can watch the material regarding the 12 biospheres of the Andromeda Council. It is in full view of the earth population, they want you to know they are here. Here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o60ZYqLrEH8

I wasnt sure WHAT IT WAS but i knew i hadnt seen ANYTHING as clear as that before & Sidney your RIGHT it is VERY CURIOUS it has me STUMPED ASWELL !!!;)

[kersley]

our sun is protected , by an ancient presence that can change size and shape , DR. Norman Bergrun called them EMV's ... 18 of them can absorb all the energy of the sun ... I think the object is an EMV ... they have left saturn and being on the way here for some time now ... accordin to James Horak there are 333 of them in our milkyway ...

You maybe right?? Dr Bergrun done an interview with Kerry about the ring makers of Saturn, But he said that the rings are been made by a race of Black ET's?????
Are they coming here to put a ring around our planet? Why? is there any benifits to us for doing this? I'm sure it would look very pretty but why?

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I can't see the vids??? it say's the video is private????

[Mutchie]

Which videos are saying private Kersley ?

[apollo41]

yeah the first two videos say private?

[Sidney]

Even more curious that he made these unavailable today when yesterday he was going to the media with it. Either they got to him, or it was faked.(IMO)

Someone else had it downloaded so here it is again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bI1tgQy4k

and here is another one (different) but damning Imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVUo5tK5m8c

here is another from May/so carolina. There are plenty to be found. i understand fully that some people make intentionally deceptive videos. But these can't all be fake imo. At some point you have to take notice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZsEj68g-SA

[Sidney]

Ok guys, its a fake. They guy admits it is indeed a lens flare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYZOb-nNIsw

[Mutchie]

OkAY IM GOING STRAIGHT TO THE SOURCE TO FIND OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING BEAR WITH ME !!!!

[araucaria]

i understand fully that some people make intentionally deceptive videos. But these can't all be fake imo. At some point you have to take notice.
Yes, they can ALL be fake, why not? They are all predicated on closeness to the Sun. This may be a concerted effort to keep independently-minded people from looking in some other direction.

[Sidney]

They have been hiding sunrise and sunset for years now though. They ARE hiding something. What that something is, we might never know.

NOTE- i am double checking the dates on these images and editing this post accordingly. I believe i am mistaken on the dates of these. Bare with me for a few minutes, and ditto for the below post.

ok post post edit. These images all are from 2012. July and october. My belief is that it is the same object in both. I was wrong thinking that the July images were from 2007. My sincere apologies.

Check out these images. The second and last image are from july, 2012. The other images show this thing is clearly much closer in october of 2012. These are NASA images. (not like that means anything). But they let a couple of these images slip through for some reason, later claiming the thing is a speck of dust on the camera, right. Sorry I messed up the order of the images. I can't re arrange them for some reason. in the second image the object is in the upper right corner in the middle of the 3 visible stars.


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[Sidney]

ok i messed up the order and for some reason cannot edit the images i put up there so i am continuing here. this first and second image is from july of 07. The third is from oct 2012.
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[Sidney]

Ok, so this is really weird. Weeks ago, I saved the first image from the soho video player. Now after realizing that I was wrong about it being 07, the far away looking images are from July 2012. But I went back to soho and saved it again, same exact way I did it before with the windows snippet feature. But the images look different from each other. My apologies for the obvious mistake. Apparently I saw the 07, and mistook it for the year rather than the month. anyway, interesting that the images look different. Maybe Nasa has updated their software or something to explain the difference.
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[donk]

Gio found this, and posted here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3596-Up-At-The-Ranch-And-Beyond&p=732620&viewfull=1#post732620):

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[Observer1964]

well, if it is close to the Sun it should be visible al over the Earth and not in some priviledged places.