Crazy Louie
18th September 2013, 17:51
Some of us can get rather expansive in our quest for nivana. We try to analyze the spiritual realm from a physical realm foundation. We are drawing the spiritual from the ether and attempting to translate it in such a way that we can understand. It's like the whisper game. ( Big circle of people - one whispers to the person next to him who whispers to person next to him etc - until the message is something completely different by the time it reaches the originator. Hmm good name for god eh? Thus the second coming would be RISE OF THE ORIGINATOR. I digress.
I pay mortage on a house - I will not live long enough to own it. I do not own a stove. I own a hot plate. I do not have a washer and dryer. I do not have a microwave.
I do not and have never owned a credit card - nor have I ever written a check - from a young age I saw that credit cards would lead to the mark of the beast some day.
In all fairness I have to mention I have two really nice tricked out vehicles. Don't really use them that much I JUST WANTED THEM.
Now to address the title of this thread - I am funking out in my mind over the fact I have a whole bunch of clutter. I don't hoard. I am talking about stuff I don't use that I keep because of course I might need to use that stuff on some future date. It is bothering me. It bugs the hell out of me actually. Pictures on the wall I never look at including mostly my own art. I note that once I create something - it is redundant immediately. We mimic god and create the best we can - the feeling of accomplishment is a fools game.
Materialism and possession was passed down to us by the people who bought into the lie for all of time. The spirit in me dislikes that notion. My spirit is in overdrive regarding owning stuff that is worthless to me while alive and will only end up being owned by someone else in the future. Yet we twist and turn trying to own stuff that does our soul no real good.
I have been throwing stuff away. It takes a lot of effort because I waffle for what I consider too much time. I don't know how this happened. When I was younger I could leave a town or city with a a couple of suitcases and boxes and live in my car ( longest was seven weeks) if need be.
Goodwill, Salvation Army, city mission - Its not spiritual if people are giving stuff away to those they judge less fortunate and then pat themselves on the back it does not go into the spiritual realm of doing good. So mostly I just throw stuff away even if its worth bucks. At the end of the day that feels the best. The reality with giving stuff away as a donation is they have specialist who price the stuff. They offer tax write offs at the mission. -- what started as charity and a noble cause has become big biz for profit.
How can you not digress when your filled with all the colors of the rainbow angst.
However with all this clutter I am now at this age having trouble just doing a yard bag of stuff at a time. But thats what needs to be done. I want no clutter. Before you think well just throw it away put yourself in the same shoes - think about throwing your stuff away. Feel it.
The spiritual side being manipulated by the physical side. If we don't put so much stock in our supposed spiritual side would it be easier to do things because the physical side would have nothing to manipulate? My thought - okay god is very real to me. I know that and he knows that - even if I don't have a clue what god is or about. I love him but I do not need him to constantly pay attention to me - so I would think the reverse is true. If what god is or represents is the constant in my life - why sweat the load. And in turn the more thought given to the ego the more ammo. I mean look at the ego thread in this forum - started in 2010 I think - still going strong - everyone writing about the ego - the ego loves the press. How elaborate we shape and craft the ego. Fine art.
I digress - the ego thread is good because we can see just as the case is with god no one knows the reality of dimensions it lives in. We splash water in the pool on the cruise ship while it floats on the ocean a thousand miles from land.
So if we forget the spiritualism and just live it and we forget the ego - is it easier to just use common sense and reach the point where we can do stuff without much thought. Like throwing away all the clutter. We don't think about breathing - we don't think about our heart beating. (Unless we are having a 20 minute heart attack and the doctor keeps asking what your pain level is - and you tell him "you".) If we did not put so much effort into enlightenment have we moved beyond enlightenment to the next phase of spiritual awareness where enlightenment becomes meaningless because you cannot NOT BE in gods grace.
thank you
I pay mortage on a house - I will not live long enough to own it. I do not own a stove. I own a hot plate. I do not have a washer and dryer. I do not have a microwave.
I do not and have never owned a credit card - nor have I ever written a check - from a young age I saw that credit cards would lead to the mark of the beast some day.
In all fairness I have to mention I have two really nice tricked out vehicles. Don't really use them that much I JUST WANTED THEM.
Now to address the title of this thread - I am funking out in my mind over the fact I have a whole bunch of clutter. I don't hoard. I am talking about stuff I don't use that I keep because of course I might need to use that stuff on some future date. It is bothering me. It bugs the hell out of me actually. Pictures on the wall I never look at including mostly my own art. I note that once I create something - it is redundant immediately. We mimic god and create the best we can - the feeling of accomplishment is a fools game.
Materialism and possession was passed down to us by the people who bought into the lie for all of time. The spirit in me dislikes that notion. My spirit is in overdrive regarding owning stuff that is worthless to me while alive and will only end up being owned by someone else in the future. Yet we twist and turn trying to own stuff that does our soul no real good.
I have been throwing stuff away. It takes a lot of effort because I waffle for what I consider too much time. I don't know how this happened. When I was younger I could leave a town or city with a a couple of suitcases and boxes and live in my car ( longest was seven weeks) if need be.
Goodwill, Salvation Army, city mission - Its not spiritual if people are giving stuff away to those they judge less fortunate and then pat themselves on the back it does not go into the spiritual realm of doing good. So mostly I just throw stuff away even if its worth bucks. At the end of the day that feels the best. The reality with giving stuff away as a donation is they have specialist who price the stuff. They offer tax write offs at the mission. -- what started as charity and a noble cause has become big biz for profit.
How can you not digress when your filled with all the colors of the rainbow angst.
However with all this clutter I am now at this age having trouble just doing a yard bag of stuff at a time. But thats what needs to be done. I want no clutter. Before you think well just throw it away put yourself in the same shoes - think about throwing your stuff away. Feel it.
The spiritual side being manipulated by the physical side. If we don't put so much stock in our supposed spiritual side would it be easier to do things because the physical side would have nothing to manipulate? My thought - okay god is very real to me. I know that and he knows that - even if I don't have a clue what god is or about. I love him but I do not need him to constantly pay attention to me - so I would think the reverse is true. If what god is or represents is the constant in my life - why sweat the load. And in turn the more thought given to the ego the more ammo. I mean look at the ego thread in this forum - started in 2010 I think - still going strong - everyone writing about the ego - the ego loves the press. How elaborate we shape and craft the ego. Fine art.
I digress - the ego thread is good because we can see just as the case is with god no one knows the reality of dimensions it lives in. We splash water in the pool on the cruise ship while it floats on the ocean a thousand miles from land.
So if we forget the spiritualism and just live it and we forget the ego - is it easier to just use common sense and reach the point where we can do stuff without much thought. Like throwing away all the clutter. We don't think about breathing - we don't think about our heart beating. (Unless we are having a 20 minute heart attack and the doctor keeps asking what your pain level is - and you tell him "you".) If we did not put so much effort into enlightenment have we moved beyond enlightenment to the next phase of spiritual awareness where enlightenment becomes meaningless because you cannot NOT BE in gods grace.
thank you