So do your friends/ kids think you are mad?

[sheme]

How do you manage to share your thoughts fears with friends and family? Have you been shuned, cut off, declared loopy? Do you stil come back with more or do you spare them the information and hope they escape to a different reality?

[dianna]

How do you manage to share your thoughts fears with friends and family? Have you been shuned, cut off, declared loopy? Do you stil come back with more or do you spare them the information and hope they escape to a different reality?

LOL, LOL, I'm down to a couple of cats and a consort ...

[jagman]

I do sprinkles of info. Nothing to deep. Don't want to upset fragile minds stuck in illusions.

[donk]

I've always told mine, it may be crazy, but this is what I believe.... if you tell people you do too, they may think you are crazy (& try to take you away from me, knowing to themselves that I must be!)...so I just warn them basically, making sure they know I think anything is possible

The most important thing I tell them is I don't KNOW anything. This my kids get (of course everything dad thinks is stupid or lame) but alas, they are at the ages (9 & 11) that is the wheelhouse for knowing EVERYTHING...

My babe on the otherhand, she is doesn't get that...she believes everything I say, which I think is intellectual laziness, she'd rather accept it than do any research.

In general, I've learned to try to always qualify everything I say. I still end up misunderstood.

One thing I have noticed lately...even the hardest-core skeptics seem more open to anything lately...I like to think the veil is lifting.

[sheme]

Glad to say I have had mixed results some outright hostile, some polite and patronising ,and the most important one from my child -support and interest, but I still keep giving it out where ever I see a chink of light, be brave and tell it as you see it no matter where the objections innuendos come from (PA sometimes). Some one some where needs to hear what you have to say, without fear. Blessings to all. Remember they thought the the earth was flat not so very long ago.

[donk]

I'm with you dude....find a opening and try to finesse it into their awareness whenever possible. It's an art.

[dianna]

I do sprinkles of info. Nothing to deep. Don't want to upset fragile minds stuck in illusions.

LOL, I don't why this made me laugh Jagman, just picturing you "sprinkling" ...

[sheme]

Laughter is not just a sign of madness. Laughter is of a very high vibration when wholesome.

[Shannow]

One of my workmates, who was really starting to question what was being played in front of his face deliberately turned back one day.

Asked him what he was up to, and he told me that he was starting to understand my world view, and that if he kept going, he wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning...in his words, it was easier to go back to trusting TPTB.

Family...I'm old enough that my parents take about 10 years, then tell me that I was right about something.

I must be pissing the right people off 'though, as there's always something going on to make mine difficult...e.g. negotiating for a promotion, then at the last minute get transferred sideways, and first job is to promote a well connected incompetent.

[Bubu]

I don't care what other people think because by then I become as them, prisoner of the "normals prison".

It is good to start with something that interest them like money and health explain how it works. They will be all ears when subjects like these are discuss. Present evidences that is verifiable by simple common sense not the sort "according to this to that". You will have them nodding in no time although the info may not be long lasting you have made the first stage. The moment they hear something similar somewhere it sinks deeper and deeper.

[Mini Flash]

When i talk to friend's about things i read on threads like these, I say ''I don't know if it is true.. But I read on the inetrnet... (tells the information)''

That way, i don't seem crazy because it is easy to find crazy information on the internet. Also, that way, I end up knowing how open minded they are to these subjects without making a fool of myself

I think everyone should try this :)

[dianna]

Loss And Gain

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow



When I compare
What I have lost with what I have gained,
What I have missed with what attained,
Little room do I find for pride.

I am aware
How many days have been idly spent;
How like an arrow the good intent
Has fallen short or been turned aside.

But who shall dare
To measure loss and gain in this wise?
Defeat may be victory in disguise;
The lowest ebb is the turn of the tide.

[skippy]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customprofilepics/profilepic4305_2.gif

"If anyone among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is folly with God." (I Corinthians, 18-19)

[seehas]

... and he told me that he was starting to understand my world view, and that if he kept going, he wouldn't be able to get out of bed in the morning...in his words, it was easier to go back to trusting TPTB.


i dont talk about this stuff with most people, but if i sense someone is interested in these coin of topics or keeps looking critical at public media and politics im starting to throw some bits and pieces, sometimes this can be realy interesting but you have to be carefull what you throw out but years teach some :)

some reactions i got past the last 15years or so:

- you should stop reading this stuff this will drive you crazy
- im to old for this you are young
- where do you got that from? how do you know if this is for real??? <<( the media and programming at young age in schools made people forget how to build their own opinion)
- we cant change anything
- you are very depressing and negative

but if they think im mad this is what im answering ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OQcH3zOaSg

[sheme]

http://youtu.be/6Hlw_9ldThs

On the Hill.

[Shane]

Hmm. Well, I did well at keeping my mouth shut for 24yrs while I had to. Once I could speak a little I did. It was VERY hard to put the muzzle back on myself once it was off.

Not that I had many friends at the time, but I lost what I did have. On an immediate level, due to the nature of my personal situation, I became alienated from my family as well. And so.. I learned to put a muzzle on.

This worked great for a long while. I did have people I could talk to who were aware, but they were not people I could consider friends in the "let's hang out and talk" sort of way, but any friends I did start to make, I was very careful with.

In the process.. I learned how to fit in. Another face in the crowd. No one really noticed anything different about me unless they could "feel" strongly (intuition, aura recognition ect) or stared too long. Those that did, were typically open to the topics and theories behind my experiences and subsequent world view.

Then, one day, people started talking to me about this Zeitgeist movie, or that Loose Change movie, or about Jordan Maxwell, or David Icke.. It was around that time that someone came along to tell me I had to start paying attention again.. Something was changing.

So I did. I found Project Camelot and other sites were exposing the truth (finally, from my perspective) interviewing some old friends, some people who also experienced things most do not. "Different paradigm" I guess some call it. Different perspective on the world.

This made everything seem different. I thought; "Now I have all these other people who know what I know and are speaking about it in interviews and writing blogs.. Wow, now I can scream from the rooftops and people will actually listen!"

So I did.. But they didn't. The family I could still talk to at all started treating me like that "crazy uncle who lives in the basement" (joke) and my friends would talk behind my back for a while and then eventually stop talking to me.

Instead of backing down at that point, I simply slowed down. I realized, I have no need to convince anyone of anything. I know what I know, and if people want to know too, synchronicity/the universe/fate/what have you, would bring them to me. When that happened I gave them "half a glass of water".. Some came back for more, others did not, and I accepted this as it occurred.

It's more important to be kind than it is to be right.. Some people subconsciously want someone (like us) to alter their world view (or shatter it as is often the case) and those people will find you, or you them. Others do not, and it is terribly unkind to force someone to drink water when they do not want water. My respect for freewill and my understanding that I can only ever open a door and it is up to others to decide to walk through it if they want, does not allow me to "force someone to drink water".

I just always keep the glass of water on hand, in case any thirsty people come my way.. Let them have as much as they want, and leave the rest.

I smile while they drink it down, and I smile if they spit it back in my face. Content to walk the path I am on all by myself.. and if anyone tags along and walks with me for a while.. Great!

(Most kids I get to talk to, think what I have to say is brilliant, and so much better than what their schools and TV's tell them. My own included.. I am lucky in that.)

[seehas]

ive found something realy funny just read and compare ;)




Cage-bound Bird: Underlying Causes and Symptoms:
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A cage-bound bird is one who will not leave his or her cage. It is an attained phobia. I parallel this condition to agoraphobia -- the generalized fear of a bird to leave his or her home or a small familiar "safe" area.

When rehabilitating a cage-bound bird, it is very important to remember that any aggression, screaming, and other unwanted behaviors are generated by fear. Attempting to correct these behaviors without correcting the underlying condition will cause further harm to this bird. Before trying to resolve any other undesirable behavior, the initial phobia of leaving the cage needs to be corrected.

Eventually, the bird gets scared of "the outside world," considering the cage a sanctuary of safety. Most cage bound parrots become terrified or even aggressive, if removed from this "safe place."

"The fact is that most cage-bound birds become this way from spending too much time in their cages, oftentimes without good human interaction. Even when provided with toys and other distractions, a cage is still just a cage.

[Flash]

When i talk to friend's about things i read on threads like these, I say ''I don't know if it is true.. But I read on the inetrnet... (tells the information)''

That way, i don't seem crazy because it is easy to find crazy information on the internet. Also, that way, I end up knowing how open minded they are to these subjects without making a fool of myself

I think everyone should try this :)

As you see, I do not have problems to speak about fringe stuff with my kid, she is right here. But not with my family though (mom, brothers, sister, cat lol)

[PurpleLama]

When i talk to friend's about things i read on threads like these, I say ''I don't know if it is true.. But I read on the inetrnet... (tells the information)''

That way, i don't seem crazy because it is easy to find crazy information on the internet. Also, that way, I end up knowing how open minded they are to these subjects without making a fool of myself

I think everyone should try this :)

As you see, I do not have problems to speak about fringe stuff with my kid, she is right here. But not with my family though (mom, brothers, sister, cat lol)

See, I am just the opposite, my daughter (19) would not join avalon, but my cats totally would, if they could read or type....

[ghostrider]

I've convinced them I'm crazy ... but to my advantage when something happens in the world they cannot explain , I"m the first one they all seek to get my take on the events ... go figure

[ruthy]

I've gotten used to the flack I get from my family and friends, I edit most things I divulge, keeping it to real events that they have at least heard of...and when I give them information unfortunately I can't tell them anything unless I can show a credible source..aka mainstream news article etc..
I love a good argument though, and I kind of bait my parents at times with topics I know that I can run amuck with...like religion...and slamming the Gov't. Slam dunks right there...but other stuff, i kind of throw a couple fishing lines out to see if they will bite, but in most cases it's just me..in a boat....with a cooler of beer.

[dianna]

About finding, and accepting yourself ...


a total stranger one black day

knocked living the hell out of me--



who found forgiveness hard because

my(as it happened)self he was



-but now that fiend and i are such

immortal friends the other's each

E.E. Cummings

[Carmen]

No, my family is fine. They are used to me being different and now they are different too, and find it hard to relate to former friends who are still mired in emotional crap and soap operas. The ones that were most resistant actually started thinking laterally through natural farming methods a and homeopathy for animals. That kinda linked them to other alternative stuff. My most resistant daughter rang me the other day as to how to treat a sick calf that the vets had no cure for. I put her into Homeopathic Farm Support and the calf was cured! They are now singing the praises of homeopathy. So, my ideas sort of slide In the back door! I don't mind, I plant seeds and watch them grow! No need to get bolshy and get into 'I'm right, you're wrong' scenario. That just puts up barriers. Lead and change others by example. Might take a few years, but what the heck, we've got eternity!!

[aranuk]

What I've found is that certain friends are more likely to agree with topics you already know will interest them, but what you can divulge to one friend doesn't mean that another friend will accept the same information. Choose wisely what you say to each person. That way is the safest way I've found. For example a friend who you know to be fairly sympathetic to socialist views you can talk freely about the banksters ruling the world. Catholic friends are more likely to believe anything you say against Freemasonry and the Illuminati, without may I say, mentioning the correspondence with the Vatican. With the more scientific friends there are lots of ways into a conversation about free energy, Tesla inventions and lastly be careful, shhhhh...UFO's etc. Stay clear of Mr Icke, that usually has a strong violent reaction. Warning: I fell out with a few friends when I mentioned I liked him.

Stan

[Selene]

I’ve always ducked the issue, because I realized from a very early age that I was not “like them”. But – and this is a big “but” – I was always somehow helped along by very good and kind souls – librarians, nuns, teachers, odd neighbors – who tactfully recognized my, ummm, different light and quietly helped me forward. I am truly, madly, deeply grateful to them all, who gave me such gentle guidance forward. They were all in on the plot, I’m sure, LOL.

Yes, you may say, I was somehow receptive to their guidance. But I must think that every child is somehow able to listen. And that there are always good and kind souls here ready and able to provide such kindness and learning. You are one of these.

I think that is what we all do, at some level.

And that the important question is not: What do I say to my friends/neighbors that will change their immediate minds? But: What can I teach the young ones for the future, or reach those who can hear me? How can I teach them?

And – perhaps – coaching a game of soccer or baseball is as good as any……

Cheers,

Selene

[Sgt-Bones]

Personally, I think a good way to get through to people is to ask them questions rather than attempt to impose or force alternative information and ideas on them.

The trick is to be subtle about it... plant seeds, lead them to the desired conclusion by asking the right questions, get them thinking for themselves... and be patient.

Try to stick to the facts, avoiding personal opinion, speculation and conjecture where possible, as this will only weaken your position and give people a reason to doubt what you're saying.

Keep in mind also that the majority of folks out there have spent their entire lives living in a system that was designed to program and condition them only to accept mainstream "approved" information, ideas, and concepts.

From birth we are taught not to question our designated "authority figures"... parents, school teachers, religious leaders, government officials, doctors, scientists, mainstream media etc etc.

It takes time to break down these deeply entrenched programs/barriers, and until such time as they begin to fall away people's minds will tend to remain closed-off to many alternative concepts.

The approach I tend to use when entering into these sorts of discussions with people is to start the ball rolling with small stuff, then gradually introduce more contestable topics over time as the barriers begin to be lifted.

Another point worth mentioning is that if/when a discussion goes pear-shaped and things start getting heated, it's perfectly okay to withdraw by agreeing to disagree... at the end of the day nobody really benefits by getting into an argument over this stuff.

[heretogrow]

I was not considered totally crazy, just a conspiracy theorist who read stuff on the internet, until the crisis with Syria and I ordered gas masks online. That was out of fear, and my thoughts were if they will bomb their own people then who is to say they won't bomb the U.S. My family had an intervention of sorts. They said if something this bad happens why do you still want to be around. I told them I was fine with dying. But someone needed to survive to take care of my little girl if she survived. I told them to me dying was easy. But I did not want to die and leave my daughter helpless. For days after this no one called or contacted me and I really grieved that closeness. Little did I know that while they were not talking to me they were actually focused on the goings on in the world and realized that something so crazy as gas masks may not be such a dumb idea afterall. Both of my sisters apologized and breathed a sigh of relief when the strikes on Syria were called off. They did not think I was so crazy after they tuned in to what was going on. The week that escalated I started canning food and I have not stopped. Canning is a slow process and I only get a few cans per recipe. The trouble is I have no place to store this food. I moved in with my parents three years ago to save money on utilities. They call themselves collectors but they are really hoarders. All of their stuff is more valuable to them and more important than clearing a space to store some food for an emergency. It is an uphill battle that I have been committed to fight because in my heart each one of them is worth it.

[noprophet]

I like to talk to people about field-interpretations vs particle-interpretations and the 100th monkey effect, especially after reading the sourcefield investigations.

It's just one of those concepts that there's a lot of ways to talk about if you look for them. Just the other day I was talking to a friend, who is generally very critical of this stuff, about how the concept of charging talismans could be applied to people's daily environment. That they are, despite what specifically, performing a ritual in their daily tasks that entwines certain parts of their energy to their environment and that a vacation is literally removing yourself from the vicinity of that field which has been magnetized to you. Hence removing the constrictions we feel as "responsibility-stress" and explaining the general alien feeling when you come back home after several weeks which generally is subdued in a few days as you get "back in the swing".

He surprised me by actually considering it.

[Mandala]

I finally decided that everyone is on their on journey. I used to throw quite a bit out there for discussion, now only a morsel. If I don't get any "bite", or interest, it ends, I smile and I'm on my way. Force will never work. If it is meant to happen, it will.

[Calz]

LOL, LOL, I'm down to a couple of cats and a consort ...

... and most certainly (at least) one friend who loves you dearly :)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Lol, for no reason what so ever, my uncle ( somewhat alternative fellow and also Gestalt therapist), blurted out on my mothers birthday ( whole family present), "well, thank god the vaults at Fort Knox are filled with gold again, so imo things are looking up" , nobody responded, like they did not even hear what was just said, I lifted an eyebrow when he said that and made eyecontact and I purposely blurted out "no its not, its as empty as Lindsey Lohans brain cavity, ask Cheney", besides my uncle no one heard my remark as well. So, that was weird, but anyway, we pingponged some "yes it is and no it isnts" across the table to eachother, to only come silently to the conclusion we were both full of sh!t when we said what we said, apparently we were both going on news from the internet from "sources, undisclosed friends in high places, names not to be reveiled, whistleblowers, whitehats, sh!theads, contacts not te be named and blahblahblah" obviously we both recognized the fact mutually that we did not know anything for certain or to be an actual fact besides that "on the internet, someone said some sh!t" regarding the above subject and for some reason we went along with that crap.

Point is, I met someone unexpected who has woken up or at least has an interest in "odd places to get his news from" and it turned into a silent Infowar about who was right or wrong and we both noticed that we both going with the bullsh!t, since, neither of us have ever set a foot in Fort Knox so neither one of us has a personal confirmation "eyeballed the shiny bricks" of the gold being there or not being there.

At any rate, it was an unexpected pleasure to meet a somewhat kindred spirit, it was not a pleasure to discover the fact we know NOTHING for a fact, we only knew we went with the flow of our own wishful thinking and undisclosed mysterious types on the internet and for some stupid reason decided to trust them, for our reasons we knew something is up but we were divided on the how and why, which is exactly what the intention of the widespread info/disinfowar is.

He has hope and faith, I think we are definitely screwed ( economically) and are in for the roughest ride of our lives, keep your cameras batteries charged at all times, we should start to see some interesting things on the street real soon.

Keep prepping folks, something is up.

Ow, the question in the OP, they would probably think I am mad, this is not a problem for I think everybody's mad already and everybody thus includes me, myself and I.

[Mikelodium]

I finally decided that everyone is on their on journey. I used to throw quite a bit out there for discussion, now only a morsel. If I don't get any "bite", or interest, it ends, I smile and I'm on my way. Force will never work. If it is meant to happen, it will.

Totally agree! I usually feel like "Oh... I would tell you a lot of things right now but... Whats the point?"

It's just a waste of time and energy.

Sometimes I still get caught on a meaningless fights, specially on topics regarding vegan lifestyle.


Peace! :)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

LOL, LOL, I'm down to a couple of cats and a consort ...

... and most certainly (at least) one friend who loves you dearly :)

Ah love, its great.

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[Rich]

a friend of mine said I am too normal for these crazy times

[Violet]

When i talk to friend's about things i read on threads like these, I say ''I don't know if it is true.. But I read on the inetrnet... (tells the information)''

That way, i don't seem crazy because it is easy to find crazy information on the internet. Also, that way, I end up knowing how open minded they are to these subjects without making a fool of myself

I think everyone should try this :)

If you want to look even less crazy omit the "but I read on the internet" too ;)

Usually when I make sentences with "I read on the internet that" half of the audience is already not taking it seriously.

[varuna]

Dear Scheme, I too have been pondering this recently..what to say and what not to. About a year ago I was coming to the end of a 2 yr professional course. We were asked to do a lecture on the 'human condition'...well you can imagine the opportunity that presented being an Avalonian...I would say that I am normally quiet and quite measured..well I dont know what came over me, I decided to do a presentation on Aliens/human origins/star child and threw in something about the Illuminati for good measure!!
About a third of my audience...thought wow I'm going to look into this, (they also chuckled as they hadn't seen that side of me before and were intrigued!) About a third thought mmmm interesting, but didn't really move from their position. And the remaining thought that I was probably quite bonkers!...but, what shocked me was the response form one of the tutors, who wriggled in her chair the whole time, and stated at the end that I had made her feel very uncomfortable, she didn't speak to me for some time later...it eventually became a bit of a joke amongst my colleagues, but I also sensed that they were a little envious of me for having the balls to speak my truth...I look back on it now with some pride...as it did really go against the quite unassuming person I normally am.

[markpierre]

Most of them were/are crazy. I've disappeared, so it's not really an issue.
Being invisible makes hiding my concerns a lot easier. I can reveal only as much as is useful.
Sometimes that's not much.
I was really never convinced that crusades over any issue were necessary for me personally.
I tried it, and discovered several times that with all the great knowledge I had, I knew nothing.
And so I presume that, before I say much.
Remember that you can't know what they need to hear. You can only trust that a compulsion to say something
is what the term implies. You are compelled by something. Who ever really knows, who is comforting who?
Or who is being confronted.
And you also have a choice to say it or not. If it comes out regardless, it might not have been your idea.
There might be something more important going on.
Or you can meet them wherever their fears are, and practice on them.

I'm pretty certain, no, I am certain that all we need do is address our own fears now, so that
when a healing presence is needed, you can be that healing presence. That's all you would need to know.

[araucaria]

Sometimes, people will come out with things that you were not expecting from them; that is a good time to let them know you're listening and maybe add a piece or two to their puzzle. Let them know you've got an open mind, without letting on about all the junk lying around in there :)

[Crazy Louie]

The main problem is all brains were not created equal. We wish to share some thoughts but when it gets behind the expected structure of superficial - brains cannot connect because they are wired for their place in the prop department of this momentary reality. Indeed, the ancients wrote on the now cracked and crumbling walls - "Stupid people think that intelligent people are crazy people." - and by stupid I don't mean stupid in the day to day brawl - I mean stupid spiritually - many are called few are chosen. The reality is - unless you want to dive into their realm and risk your own grace - forget about it. I think someone above mentioned - just love them - no need to tell them or beat your drum - just love them and never mouth the word.


I wrote the above and then thought - really it's no different not being able to talk to people in the here and now - when most of us never had any kind of real talk with our parents or those that took care of us - we were small children in a mad world - and for the most part we were lonely lost and in need of love shown by concern and emotional closeness in a verbal realm --- did we get it? And to double the insult to all things we try to improve on - when we go back to parents and try to have a talk with some meaning -- they either say they do not remember or that its the past - and of course your emotions become blue rock once again.

[Prodigal Son]

Not any more :)

[Camilo]

If you still feel compelled to share your insights with them, you may want to put them at ease by saying to them that you respect their views, but that they should consider the possibility that what you have to share with them might be real and accurate.

[DNA]

How do you manage to share your thoughts fears with friends and family? Have you been shuned, cut off, declared loopy? Do you stil come back with more or do you spare them the information and hope they escape to a different reality?

The important thing is to know your audience. Try not to get all eclesiastical about it.
And if you drop little acorns here and there you can be amazed at the effects.
Just be carefull about dropping the sh!tload on someone.

Baby steps

[Lifebringer]

"Boy, all people talk about is doom and gloom." says the hubby. All because I told him of the 3 days of darkness next week that FEMA has been preparing for.

I said, I don't dwell on doom and gloom, just reporting what I heard about next week so be prepared just in case.

"I know, not doom and gloom, but I'd rather think of something else." Fine I say. We prepers are the ones to go to when you are at the end of "your" knowledge. I've been the thinker on the preparation as they just look and whisper in other rooms. I just think to myself, they'll get it sooner or later. I really don't think they know how to keep warm without something to burn as fuel. A simple candle and flower pot with a long bolt, can make the world of difference. I also showed him the "remander of what they predict the US will look like after the shift, and all he can think about is, you gotta do something else, honey.

Well I know the countdown for alignment and crossing is afoot, and I will not be deterred from surviving, no matter who believes me. I'm a carpenter, lab phlebotomist with triage training from ER, Garden soil rejuvenation teacher, that knits, has plenty of yarn for hats and scarves and saved coffee filter for breathing mask to keep volcanic ash and soot from going down my respiratory tract. I do hair, I sew, i build so food clothing and shelter is my priority. Also put games and crafts for the "board don't want to deal with it people."

[Flash]

When i was in college we had a 3 days course in march (march is real cold in canada - freezing cold, ice and snow) in the wilderness. The only thing we coul bring was a large plastic, aknife and a 10 degrees below sleeping bag (it was aroun 20below on that week).

So, the 12 of us fed ourselve with maple syrup water that we cooked on a fire we made , waterfound in the . We organized a fast sleeping place to keep us from freezing, we tried to hunt small game barehand and making traps with rope, etc. We came back tired and starving but it was a great experience showing our lack o know how as well as our survival spirit.

So yes lifebringer, there are not many people who have a cue of how unprepared they are and what one do to survive with about nothing.

Congrats for tryin to make them see and for preparing.

[sirdipswitch]

I was pullin weeds in the garden, when a UFO landed in my backyard. A rather tall being with a big head and big eyes got out and walked over to me. He said: "Take me to your leader." I said: "Sure! Follow me, she's in the house cookin dinner!" ccc.

[Krist]

Allowing my children (17,19,20) friends, family to come and wrangle with my perspective can be quite a trip.They will be all ears when the ball drops ,maybe we can sort out the madness or lack of then.Till then ,the mad hatter can enjoy some tea.

[jagman]

The turbulent times we live in Imo has brought about positive changes. When times are hard
people start searching for answers. Days of old, people turned to politics,To their governments
Religious organizations but in todays world they see hiypocrisy and lies in all of these institutions.
Not that hypocrisy and lies didnt exist back then but it was much more hidden and access to info
was usually limited to your newspaper or Mainstream news outlet. When i see politicians or religious
leaders or Governments getting caught up in scandal after scandal it always brings a smile to my
face. Not because I find pleasure in their torment.The reason I smile is because they have done more to open their eyes than I could ever have done Jagman over and out.

[Shane]

"A good teacher protects his pupils from his own influence"

"A teacher is never a giver of truth – he is a guide, a pointer to the truth that each student must find for himself. A good teacher is merely a catalyst."

-Bruce Lee

A couple examples of many of the words I live by.

[Mark]

I deal with young college students and the wide spectrum of the public on the daily in my job as an environmental interpreter on a lake. I've been teaching college courses for 15 years. My experiences having to stand and speak to people on a daily basis and having to limit my information output dependent upon the context and the audience has given me a particularly sensitive awareness radar in determining who is ready for what and who isn't.

I taught at a community college in San Antonio, TX for a year or so. Back in the mid-aughts. When "What the Bleep" and "Zeitgeist" first came out.

I showed them both in all of my classes. Students would go to the head of the department when they saw the part of Zeitgeist talking about the Solar Savior. Others would get up and walk out of class. I got called to the main office a few times that year. It was an expensive lesson, as it eventually cost me that job and sent me down the path of further honing my communicative and observational abilities.

These days, my comments are group-appropriate. If in personal conversation with one to a few people, I let them lead. Find out what they know. Let them talk about it. Guide them gently if their understanding is flawed, give them specific things to google in order to find out more information about what they've seen on television or the internet. Most often, they'll come back with more comments or questions and then the discussion proceeds, but always and only, at their own pace and level of understanding.

For the general public, I speak mostly about anthropology and history, so the discussion of native american belief systems can and does include some aspects of spirituality, but each takes from it what adds to what they've brought and if, after the tours, they have more questions or want to discuss things, it can and does get kind of interesting. Some tours are just people who want to see turtles, or talk about certain parts of the history of the lake. Others, people are interested in deeper things, like the energy of the water. One tour I had was full of magical people, and we talked about vortexes, the memory of water, ghosts and the concentration of lower-4D entities in places of continuous human habitation for thousands of years, the entities that exist at higher dimensional levels. It got very esoteric, but that is the exception rather than the norm. I remember talking about "adiabatic oil" with a couple of old "Oil men", with extensive experience in Texas, the Gulf and Alaska. Their views were illuminating for me. Their experiences vs. my theories. It was great that they aligned perfectly.

Compassion is important in this area. Cognitive dissonance can be painful and assailing that borderline between consciousness and slumber is dangerous. Some people are really angry when they get awoken from their sleep.

[wegge]

I also think it depends on the topic. Space alien reptilians or that wars are fabricated could be too much confront for the people. But talking about other things regarding self development could be better suited but it depends on the person I think.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Allowing my children (17,19,20) friends, family to come and wrangle with my perspective can be quite a trip.They will be all ears when the ball drops ,maybe we can sort out the madness or lack of then.Till then ,the mad hatter can enjoy some tea.

Welcome on the forum, you are needed!:cool:

[Rich]

How do you manage to share your thoughts fears with friends and family?

I don't share my thoughts and fears much but here is a very good way of doing it IMO:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56253-How-to-understand-what-a-person-is-saying

[dianna]

From "Dinner With Andre"

(or ... a good vignette of dinner with probably many of us on this forum LOL)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_mivWFkSKU

[scanner]

When I started this journey many years ago , I didn't realize what it meant up until 5 years ago . I didn't fully understand , until a website Project Camelot set up a website called Avalon . It was set up by a man called Bill and a woman called Kerry. I thank them both for shaking me fully awake . However this cost me dearly , you see, I had a problem called flappytrapious . This condition cost me all my friends and some of my family . I found a cure for this condition called keepitshutious unless they ask first of course . I now just throw out little gems of info , saying things like "I told you so" and "it serves you right you thought I was mad " . Now they tend not to ask , it's a peaceful life and I get to talk to all my new found friends on fora like this and have met quite a few in the UK. Thanks to all , don't stop pushing the envelope .