Will ET reveal themselves to mankind?

[mojo]

The Vincent Eastwood show tackles the question.

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[Griff]

Great interview with Richard Dolan. I had a listen last week. Recommended listening!

Griff

[sheme]

Of course they will- Jesus is a space man!

[Kindred]

They have... Many, many times, and a number of them work with all the major gov'ts. Unfortunately, the gov'ts have hooked up with the 'wrong ones'... and for the wrong reasons. The ones who have Humanity's best interests know better than to 'interfere' outwardly, but do so in quiet and discreet ways. And, I'm certain that there are others that fall 'in between' these two extremes.

Oh... and yes, 'Jesus' was Thiaoouban ;)
http://www.galactic.no/linkmap.html

In Unity, Peace and Love

[Nanoo Nanoo]

they already have ...

[ghostrider]

nope , not till after we have completely wrecked the planet ...

[Mandala]

I think ETs have revealed themselves, the problem is government and mainstream media acknowledgement.

[Anchor]

In my opinion, (good) ET will do that, however they will probably only come only to help us. Thus in order to help us two conditions need to be satisfied:

1) A substantial number of us need to be actively working to the betterment of the planet - I don't know what the tipping point is for this. Logic here is that you cannot be helped unless you are DOING something to be helped with.

2) Permission has to be given by a substantial number of us who have access to true information (not propaganda) and can make a fair unencumbered choice

Consequently... I don't think its is going to happen soon.

I also think there are some extraordinary conditions that would cause them to show up:

1) We attempt to use nuclear weapons or similar weapons of mass destruction past a certain point - probably measured in terms of psychic damage to Gaia that we (incarnate humans) can't in our ongoing efforts heal and which she herself is unable to balance or bleed off in tempestuous natural phenomena.

2) Real bad ETs go "overt" and show up (not just man made holograms etc)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

why would we want to wait for governments to confirm what we already know ? unless its to see the reaction of all the sleepers ... that would be something.


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[Wind]

Consequently... I don't think its is going to happen soon.

I also think there are some extraordinary conditions that would cause them to show up:

1) We attempt to use nuclear weapons or similar weapons of mass destruction past a certain point - probably measured in terms of psychic damage to Gaia that we (incarnate humans) can't in our ongoing efforts heal and which she herself is unable to balance or bleed off in tempestuous natural phenomena.

I agree, but it seems that we are living in very volatile times. It appears that WWIII is being prepared so the good ET's might be forced to intervene, but that of course would affect the law of free will when it comes to unawakened humans. I hope and believe that our galactic brothers and sisters just won't allow nuclear war. Or maybe there won't be any major war because it wouldn't serve the ptb. In that case the planet and human race will continue to deteriorate over the years and decades, but I don't see a very good future for humans unless there is a major shift in consciousness soon. Or was the harvest supposed to occur like this?

[Sunny-side-up]

I had lots of ideas and feelings concerning ET's and my own wishes of open contact, and since being a Avalon member I've learnt so much more on the subject, and so many extra ideas and feelings.

One of my main ideas/feelings I used to have was that this realm where we live on planet Earth was a holding pen! a place for us to finally wakeup and learn to be of appropriate nature so that then we would be allowed into the already bristling mixed races of what we call ET'z.

Reaching far, far back through out our supposed histories we have had individuals that where ahead of their time (our time) maybe due to contact? or just the few out of the many !
When many, many more of the few are active at the same time, when the majority are ahead of the time, ahead of the game; well, we will probably just merge into awareness of contact.

I'm very open to contact with advanced and peaceful ET's but even with my mind set I think I've messed up Individual contacts :(

There out there, their here, we are waiting! so are they! lol

A combined Avalon puss/attempt could be attempted/achieved. All focusing on one mindfully sent message!

Here in Avalon was a concept created by Bill the RSA, many of us have joined in on missions so why not a full on version as an attempt to contact by us. A simple message that we can all empower through out our daily activates, all passing out the same words, same message!

[Violet]

I think ETs have revealed themselves, the problem is government and mainstream media acknowledgement.

How can such an advanced species in trying to reveal itself be outsmarted by corrupt...earthlings.

[Anchor]

Or was the harvest supposed to occur like this?

Don't know.

The only thing I do know is that each persons harvest occurs in that persons illusion of linear time. I assume that this is individual and therefore not necessarily at the same "time" as everyone else. I note the law of one is pretty clear on the notion that the process is not complete until physical death has occurred. Furthermore I think the whole mass transformation idea is new-age disinformation/confusion.

[Anchor]

I think ETs have revealed themselves, the problem is government and mainstream media acknowledgement.

How can such an advanced species in trying to reveal itself be outsmarted by corrupt...earthlings.

Assume that it is all a game.

Some earthings found out the rules (or were told more details about the game mechanics than normal people know).

By pushing the game mechanics in an extreme way, the deed is done.

This is why I think the idea of mass acknowledgement, mass permissioning, under the group-freewill and the group "majority" decision is important for the freewill abiding ET to act.

The bad ET are not overt, because pushing the game in the direction it is played requires them to move in the shadows and use trickery and deceit. If they came out into the light they would be as the traditional vampires - toast!

[Rich]

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[Billy]

Sorry but i cannot watch video's

My take is that if Planet Earth is threatened with destruction they will intercede. The universal civilizations will not allow Earth to be destroyed.

It would be more beneficial for humanity to save themselves and assist mother earth without intervention from the universal civilization.

I would rather they were able to reveal themselves in a peaceful compassionate situation than coming to save us from our own S**t that we allowed to be created.

peace

[Lifebringer]

I enjoyed when they stated that his body was in stasis until the ascension when he would need it. The Thiaooban information was refreshing to know. How the power of thought can transport you, and the different description of the houses and sleeping chambers. The video game "Zelda" came to mind. Was Christ like Lynk? Lynk was in search of Zelda, the female sheika and key to a healthy and non evil planet/towns and people. All the worlds taken over by a usurping egotist chauvanist, that insisted on being ruler of the world. Lynk must obtain on the search, various tools, and weapons, to finally go up against the dark lord. Forget his name, but it's almost like lord of the rings. In fact when I see "Rings" they have mimicked the story line. Zelda was out first. Lynk must find all the pieces to complete or release the shieka's captured or people imprisoned that have key parts to obtain a tool.

In mankind's arrogance, they have forgotten that others have their DNA strands here on the planet. Be they dolphin, octopus, whale, orca, lion, zebra. How do we know some of their creature/dna, a part of their world they come from, isn't threatened by our fossil and toxic unsustainable self portrayed existance, before coming here to experience the emotion, or nature of the planet?

I believe it will all come out in "it's" own timeline, and only the Creator knows when, our job is to be the remnant to rebuild. I know I want to be in that number. I draw comfort in the old saying that He may not be there when "you" want Him there, but He's always right on time.
Something tossed out there.:wizard:

[ghostrider]

Some ET's have revealed themselves to a swiss farmer starting in 1975 to current day , it's still ongoing ... 16,000 pages of contact notes , video , metal samples , supposed photos of the past , space, the unviversal barrier , another universe , it's all there if someone wants to know, learn , or reject ... the choice is ours ...http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page

[AutumnW]

I am constantly having ufo contact dreams. They are flying right above the car in huge squadrons and everyone is aware of them. This has been going on for a couple of years at least every other night or early morning. This is likely the form contact will take. Who knows what kinds of ideas images they are responsible for and how this is changing us? Contact is a grassroots phenomenon that's confusing, mind bending, politically stealthy, conceptually difficult to fathom. They won't be landing on the white house lawn--and some of them may be partly responsible for our current suspicion of the elite. Like Freddie Kruger, they will haunt our dreams.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

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Genius : 0 ) Bashar for world govenor ! ( our world )

here are some correlations to Bashar's message as exo political explanations to exhalted quantums for contact and how to achieve it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60849-Extra-Political-Discussion-Thread-Extra-Terrestrian-Politics

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[Nanoo Nanoo]

Sorry but i cannot watch video's

My take is that if Planet Earth is threatened with destruction they will intercede. The universal civilizations will not allow Earth to be destroyed.

It would be more beneficial for humanity to save themselves and assist mother earth without intervention from the universal civilization.

I would rather they were able to reveal themselves in a peaceful compassionate situation than coming to save us from our own S**t that we allowed to be created.

peace

you are right , the earth wont be destroyed however the inhabitants that tried to destroy is will be removed ( like a pest ) lets hope it dosent get to that

remember the planets emination in our galaxy within the collective and affecting other planitary inhabitants is THE most important component to its function in the galaxy as a harmonic of the uni verse, or rather a Note in the octave .. the Note at present is eminating a distortion which must be eliminated .. it is all culminating in katalytic lessons in which we are being forced to evolve before we are given more to chew.

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[Violet]

Some ET's have revealed themselves to a swiss farmer starting in 1975 to current day , it's still ongoing ... 16,000 pages of contact notes , video , metal samples , supposed photos of the past , space, the unviversal barrier , another universe , it's all there if someone wants to know, learn , or reject ... the choice is ours ...http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page

Mr. Meier dates his reports, letters and prophecies back as far as the fifties. I wonder against which secondary sources can we check it?

In other words: how can we know that the documents are really from that time. He seems to be his only oldest source.

[Mandala]

Isn't the universal decree not to interfere with a developing species? Not to go all Star Trek on you, but I have heard this from Bob Dean. They might interfere or become involved If a significant number of people ask for them to disclose.

At this point for me, all bets are off. I don't know what to expect anymore about anything. There is truth out there mixed in with lies and deceit. I know never trust a "date", never believe in rescue, and simply don't expect anyone to do for you what you should be doing for yourself. Now that brings me to my other feeling about having one foot in each of two worlds. The plain old reality I know, and that other one which I call the paranormal, woo-woo, biblical, indigenous peoples legends and fairy tale conjecture.

There is a possibility that some of it is true. But which part? I feel this would make a good new thread for anyone who would wish to discuss it.


Right now, my main concern is:
Financial
Electrical grid problems
Food shortages
Possible astronomical threat

[Bubu]

they already have ...

But only few saw it.

Then if we answer correctly or not what difference does it make.

[Youniverse]

Yeah Bashar has predicted that all of humanity will consciously know that ETs exist by around 2015. The spiritually advanced ETs will presumably seek contact with as many humans that are ready. Some say that a "critical mass" has already been reached in human awakening. So if that's the case then it's now a question of how long it will take for those awakened ones across the planet to energetically bring the sleepwalkers into the light. Of course it's still their free choice to accept or reject the awakening process. I wonder however, how does one resist what comes natural once they are shown their own heart? When the way to certain destruction or expansion becomes so clear, why choose destruction? I suppose it's because there are those that want to experience that for whatever reason. Bashar talks about certain people we're acquainted with that just start disappearing from our lives. Their frequencies are not in enough alignment with others to remain in the same reality. So presumably from that perspective, when open contact occurs there will be an almost total consensus or total consensus on some level between all those involved.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

We have not made the tipping point in conciousness yet, we have a long ways to go before we make 30% intelligent sentient life emination which is required for any sort of intervention or ongoing time line jump.. presently we are eminating between 6 to 8 % intelligence. Keep in mind their idea of intelligence may differ to ours.

Mandala, i wouldnt worry about what you read, id concentrate on what works for you , what resonates for you in your most honest heart. This will serve you better thatn to be confused with so many stories.. i agree there are so many , many people who seem to be smoking the odd whacky tabaccy and deciding to make a speech .. hmmm

Regarding energy we dont have the impetus to promote a sensible energy alternative.. I posted a very informative thread on alternative energy and its recieved virtually no interest. Thsi tells me that people even the awake ones in the alternative community are lazy .. it suggests we are waiting on our bums for a saviour ... sigh

it aint gonna happen , we have to save our selves ... its like the panda bears dying off because they are fussy eaters ... well guess what your species will die off if YOU dont take action and support alternatives to energy and shift the global power structure with energy.

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[Nanoo Nanoo]

heres some good info on ET's and the program that is well under way and has been for decades.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?60788-Mary-Rodwell-ETs-Souls-The-New-Humans-and-a-coming-global-Shift

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[Violet]

Some ET's have revealed themselves to a swiss farmer starting in 1975 to current day , it's still ongoing ... 16,000 pages of contact notes , video , metal samples , supposed photos of the past , space, the unviversal barrier , another universe , it's all there if someone wants to know, learn , or reject ... the choice is ours ...http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Main_Page

Mr. Meier dates his reports, letters and prophecies back as far as the fifties. I wonder against which secondary sources can we check it?

In other words: how can we know that the documents are really from that time. He seems to be his only oldest source.

This is the 1958 (http://www.theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm) prophecy, as he calls it. It's a great deal...accurate, but date of writing can't be certified online. I personally couldn't find any referrers or citations older than say 2008 (and that's citing just his name and a brief intro). Not in English and not in German either. Except for this one, it says 'As it is now the summer of 1998 (http://www.greatdreams.com/cnsprcy.htm)" and it mentions Meier.

However, wikipedia puts some older sources at the bottom going back to the seventies, so that could make it researchable in some way.