Cidersomerset
24th September 2013, 15:03
I just read this article which is one of hundreds of incidents of this type during
the last century, and was even more common throughout history as one empire
toppled another or one country conquered another.
As with 'False flags' which start many incidents , why are humans so evil ?
Communicating around the world on the web, or living in your local society.
I have no desire to hurt , let alone kill anyone else.
The Church would say its the 'Devils' work an old cliché , but I'm enclined to
think that the Devil are ET's either interdimentional or embedded in the
bloodlines of the elites, as David Icke suggests. Living off the fear created.
The traditional view is its just human nature, one group/country expanding
taking the resources of a neighbour killing and taking the woman & children
as spoils of war. It could still be that, which I like many others learn't from
school and the established history/media. But the more we are learning
now it just does not feel right that humans are so callous about killing
each other.
Then again look at Syria and many other places around the world, and the
millions of people pass over every week, from accidents, old age etc...
so maybe there is more to this than we realise. Then you go into different
spiritual reason for why we are here experiencing this reality.........
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24 September 2013 Last updated at 01:09
Hyderabad 1948: India's hidden massacreBy Mike Thomson
Presenter, Document, Radio 4
The Jewel of The Nizams 'Falaknuma Palace' which was the former residence of
Nizam Mehaboob Ali Khan in the old city area of Hyderabad
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70064000/jpg/_70064689_palace624.jpg
When India was partitioned in 1947, about 500,000 people died in communal
rioting, mainly along the borders with Pakistan. But a year later another massacre
occurred in central India, which until now has remained clouded in secrecy.In
September and October 1948, soon after independence from the British Empire,
tens of thousands of people were brutally slaughtered in central India. Some were
lined up and shot by Indian Army soldiers. Yet a government-commissioned report
into what happened was never published and few in India know about the
massacre. Critics have accused successive Indian governments of continuing a
cover-up.
The massacres took place a year after the violence of partition in what was then
Hyderabad state, in the heart of India. It was one of 500 princely states that had
enjoyed autonomy under British colonial rule. When independence came in 1947
nearly all of these states agreed to become part of India.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70064000/jpg/_70064693_map_think624.jpg
Old map of India
But Hyderabad's Muslim Nizam, or prince, insisted on remaining independent. This
outraged the new country's mainly Hindu leaders in New Delhi.
After an acrimonious stand-off between Delhi and Hyderabad, the government
finally lost patience.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70022000/jpg/_70022962_hyderabadgetty.jpg
The Charminar in central Hyderabad
Listen to Mike Thomson's report on Document, The Hyderabad Massacre, on BBC
Radio 4 at 16:00 BST on Tuesday 24 September or catch it later on the BBC iPlayer.
Document, The Hyderabad Massacre
In addition, their desire to prevent an independent Muslim-led state taking root in
the heart of predominantly Hindu India was another worry. Members of the
powerful Razakar militia, the armed wing of Hyderabad's most powerful Muslim
political party, were terrorising many Hindu villagers. This gave the Prime Minister,
Jawaharlal Nehru, the pretext he needed. In September 1948 the Indian Army
invaded Hyderabad. In what was rather misleadingly known as a "police action",
the Nizam's forces were defeated after just a few days without any significant loss
of civilian lives. But word then reached Delhi that arson, looting and the mass
murder and rape of Muslims had followed the invasion.
Determined to get to the bottom of what was happening, an alarmed Nehru
commissioned a small mixed-faith team to go to Hyderabad to investigate.
It was led by a Hindu congressman, Pandit Sunderlal. But the resulting report that
bore his name was never published.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70014000/jpg/_70014877_sunderlal.jpg
A copy of the Sunderlal report Pandit Sunderlal's team concluded that between
27,000 and 40,000 died
The Sunderlal team visited dozens of villages throughout the state.
At each one they carefully chronicled the accounts of Muslims who had survived the
appalling violence: "We had absolutely unimpeachable evidence to the effect that
there were instances in which men belonging to the Indian Army and also to the
local police took part in looting and even other crimes.
"During our tour we gathered, at not a few places, that soldiers encouraged,
persuaded and in a few cases even compelled the Hindu mob to loot Muslim shops
and houses."
The team reported that while Muslims villagers were disarmed by the Indian Army,
Hindus were often left with their weapons. In some cases, it said, Indian soldiers
themselves took an active hand in the butchery: "At a number of places members
of the armed forces brought out Muslim adult males from villages and towns and
massacred them in cold blood."
The investigation team also reported, however, that in many other instances the
Indian Army had behaved well and protected Muslims.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70014000/jpg/_70014883_6-d2003.64.0003.jpg
The Nizam Mahbub Ali Khan and Party Posed with Tiger Skins at Shikar Camp, April–
May 1899 The Nizam of Hyderabad was a powerful prince. In this picture taken in
1899, the Nizam, Mahbub Ali Khan, and his party pose with tiger skins.
The backlash was said to have been in response to many years of intimidation and
violence against Hindus by the Razakars.
In confidential notes attached to the Sunderlal report, its authors detailed the
gruesome nature of the Hindu revenge: "In many places we were shown wells still
full of corpses that were rotting. In one such we counted 11 bodies, which included
that of a woman with a small child sticking to her breast. "
And it went on: "We saw remnants of corpses lying in ditches. At several places the
bodies had been burnt and we would see the charred bones and skulls still lying
there."
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70064000/jpg/_70064692_prayer_464_afp.jpg
The Sunderlal report estimated that between 27,000 to 40,000 people lost their
lives.Indian Shiite Muslims take part in religious prayers at 'Ashoorkhana' in the Aza
Khana Zehara in Hyderabad, on January 5, 2009. The structure, built by the
seventh Nizam Mir Osman Ali Kahan to perpetuate the memory of his mother Amtul
Zehra Begum A Shiite shrine built by the seventh Nizam to perpetuate his mother's
memory No official explanation was given for Nehru's decision not to publish the
contents of the Sunderlal report, though it is likely that, in the powder-keg years
that followed independence, news of what happened might have sparked more
Muslim reprisals against Hindus.
It is also unclear why, all these decades later, there is still no reference to what
happened in the nation's schoolbooks. Even today few Indians have any idea what
happened. The Sunderlal report, although unknown to many, is now open for
viewing at the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library in New Delhi. There has been a
call recently in the Indian press for it to be made more widely available, so the
entire nation can learn what happened.
It could be argued this might risk igniting continuing tensions between Muslims and
Hindus.
"Living as we are in this country with all our conflicts and problems, I wouldn't
make a big fuss over it," says Burgula Narasingh Rao, a Hindu who lived through
those times in Hyderabad and is now in his 80s.
"What happens, reaction and counter-reaction and various things will go on and on,
but at the academic level, at the research level, at your broadcasting level, let
these things come out. I have no problem with that."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24159594
the last century, and was even more common throughout history as one empire
toppled another or one country conquered another.
As with 'False flags' which start many incidents , why are humans so evil ?
Communicating around the world on the web, or living in your local society.
I have no desire to hurt , let alone kill anyone else.
The Church would say its the 'Devils' work an old cliché , but I'm enclined to
think that the Devil are ET's either interdimentional or embedded in the
bloodlines of the elites, as David Icke suggests. Living off the fear created.
The traditional view is its just human nature, one group/country expanding
taking the resources of a neighbour killing and taking the woman & children
as spoils of war. It could still be that, which I like many others learn't from
school and the established history/media. But the more we are learning
now it just does not feel right that humans are so callous about killing
each other.
Then again look at Syria and many other places around the world, and the
millions of people pass over every week, from accidents, old age etc...
so maybe there is more to this than we realise. Then you go into different
spiritual reason for why we are here experiencing this reality.........
http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/2.48.3/desktop/3.5/img/blq-blocks_grey_alpha.png
24 September 2013 Last updated at 01:09
Hyderabad 1948: India's hidden massacreBy Mike Thomson
Presenter, Document, Radio 4
The Jewel of The Nizams 'Falaknuma Palace' which was the former residence of
Nizam Mehaboob Ali Khan in the old city area of Hyderabad
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70064000/jpg/_70064689_palace624.jpg
When India was partitioned in 1947, about 500,000 people died in communal
rioting, mainly along the borders with Pakistan. But a year later another massacre
occurred in central India, which until now has remained clouded in secrecy.In
September and October 1948, soon after independence from the British Empire,
tens of thousands of people were brutally slaughtered in central India. Some were
lined up and shot by Indian Army soldiers. Yet a government-commissioned report
into what happened was never published and few in India know about the
massacre. Critics have accused successive Indian governments of continuing a
cover-up.
The massacres took place a year after the violence of partition in what was then
Hyderabad state, in the heart of India. It was one of 500 princely states that had
enjoyed autonomy under British colonial rule. When independence came in 1947
nearly all of these states agreed to become part of India.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70064000/jpg/_70064693_map_think624.jpg
Old map of India
But Hyderabad's Muslim Nizam, or prince, insisted on remaining independent. This
outraged the new country's mainly Hindu leaders in New Delhi.
After an acrimonious stand-off between Delhi and Hyderabad, the government
finally lost patience.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70022000/jpg/_70022962_hyderabadgetty.jpg
The Charminar in central Hyderabad
Listen to Mike Thomson's report on Document, The Hyderabad Massacre, on BBC
Radio 4 at 16:00 BST on Tuesday 24 September or catch it later on the BBC iPlayer.
Document, The Hyderabad Massacre
In addition, their desire to prevent an independent Muslim-led state taking root in
the heart of predominantly Hindu India was another worry. Members of the
powerful Razakar militia, the armed wing of Hyderabad's most powerful Muslim
political party, were terrorising many Hindu villagers. This gave the Prime Minister,
Jawaharlal Nehru, the pretext he needed. In September 1948 the Indian Army
invaded Hyderabad. In what was rather misleadingly known as a "police action",
the Nizam's forces were defeated after just a few days without any significant loss
of civilian lives. But word then reached Delhi that arson, looting and the mass
murder and rape of Muslims had followed the invasion.
Determined to get to the bottom of what was happening, an alarmed Nehru
commissioned a small mixed-faith team to go to Hyderabad to investigate.
It was led by a Hindu congressman, Pandit Sunderlal. But the resulting report that
bore his name was never published.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70014000/jpg/_70014877_sunderlal.jpg
A copy of the Sunderlal report Pandit Sunderlal's team concluded that between
27,000 and 40,000 died
The Sunderlal team visited dozens of villages throughout the state.
At each one they carefully chronicled the accounts of Muslims who had survived the
appalling violence: "We had absolutely unimpeachable evidence to the effect that
there were instances in which men belonging to the Indian Army and also to the
local police took part in looting and even other crimes.
"During our tour we gathered, at not a few places, that soldiers encouraged,
persuaded and in a few cases even compelled the Hindu mob to loot Muslim shops
and houses."
The team reported that while Muslims villagers were disarmed by the Indian Army,
Hindus were often left with their weapons. In some cases, it said, Indian soldiers
themselves took an active hand in the butchery: "At a number of places members
of the armed forces brought out Muslim adult males from villages and towns and
massacred them in cold blood."
The investigation team also reported, however, that in many other instances the
Indian Army had behaved well and protected Muslims.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70014000/jpg/_70014883_6-d2003.64.0003.jpg
The Nizam Mahbub Ali Khan and Party Posed with Tiger Skins at Shikar Camp, April–
May 1899 The Nizam of Hyderabad was a powerful prince. In this picture taken in
1899, the Nizam, Mahbub Ali Khan, and his party pose with tiger skins.
The backlash was said to have been in response to many years of intimidation and
violence against Hindus by the Razakars.
In confidential notes attached to the Sunderlal report, its authors detailed the
gruesome nature of the Hindu revenge: "In many places we were shown wells still
full of corpses that were rotting. In one such we counted 11 bodies, which included
that of a woman with a small child sticking to her breast. "
And it went on: "We saw remnants of corpses lying in ditches. At several places the
bodies had been burnt and we would see the charred bones and skulls still lying
there."
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70064000/jpg/_70064692_prayer_464_afp.jpg
The Sunderlal report estimated that between 27,000 to 40,000 people lost their
lives.Indian Shiite Muslims take part in religious prayers at 'Ashoorkhana' in the Aza
Khana Zehara in Hyderabad, on January 5, 2009. The structure, built by the
seventh Nizam Mir Osman Ali Kahan to perpetuate the memory of his mother Amtul
Zehra Begum A Shiite shrine built by the seventh Nizam to perpetuate his mother's
memory No official explanation was given for Nehru's decision not to publish the
contents of the Sunderlal report, though it is likely that, in the powder-keg years
that followed independence, news of what happened might have sparked more
Muslim reprisals against Hindus.
It is also unclear why, all these decades later, there is still no reference to what
happened in the nation's schoolbooks. Even today few Indians have any idea what
happened. The Sunderlal report, although unknown to many, is now open for
viewing at the Nehru Memorial Museum and Library in New Delhi. There has been a
call recently in the Indian press for it to be made more widely available, so the
entire nation can learn what happened.
It could be argued this might risk igniting continuing tensions between Muslims and
Hindus.
"Living as we are in this country with all our conflicts and problems, I wouldn't
make a big fuss over it," says Burgula Narasingh Rao, a Hindu who lived through
those times in Hyderabad and is now in his 80s.
"What happens, reaction and counter-reaction and various things will go on and on,
but at the academic level, at the research level, at your broadcasting level, let
these things come out. I have no problem with that."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24159594