Praxis
27th September 2013, 17:48
On sin, the fall, and good & evil,
I became acquainted with a Yogi while living in Fort Collins. He was on the bus and it was a rather warm day and there was no AC. The bus had to stop for some reason and this man was helping do something with the top of the bus to open it. I was actually mad at him for helping, because it was delaying my trip home after a day at school. The short story is that we actually had a conversation another day about terrorism and al qaeda that lead to an excellent relationship where I learned many things from him. One thing that he offered me early on, and which I rejected wholly at the time, was the fact that there is no good or evil. There only is.
I have since reevaluated my opinion on this philosophy and actually find it to be the most liberating one. Now this may sound like the start of a very lucifarian philosophy, but actually it is exactly the opposite. Let us start from the beginning. In Eden, Adam and Eve are going about there is without little regard for anything really. Then the story has it that a snake convinced Eve to consume the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. She did so and shared this with her counterpart. Then they realized “Holy ****, Im naked!” and dressed themselves. God seeing this is supposed to have kicked the two out of paradise from going against the will of God, which in this case was to not know!
This is an incorrect interpretation. First, no true God would not want you to know. Jesus said, and im paraphrasing, “Blaspheme me, all good. Blashpeme God, still ok. Blashpeme the holy spirit and that is unforgivable.” Recently I had a revelation that the holy spirit is actually gnosis itself! So jesus was saying you can not speak against Truth(knowing what is/was/will be). Now, eden was not a physical place and was an allegorical tale for the fall of man. But what exactly was the fall? Was it eating the fruit and disobeying God? No. Only a god would create a rule such as that. If there is a universal imperative, divinally imposed or inherent, then it would be to err on the side of creation and not destruction. Furthermore, God's rules will scale universally and be applicable to all things, not just humans( how arrogant to think that we have our own special rules!) Thou shall not commit adultery? How does the Earth commit adultery? Thou shall not murder? When the sun goes super nova and destroys this planet, is it sinning? These are rules not made by God because they do not scale universally. (LOL a jealous god you say! Yet more anthropomorphizing God)
As a brief aside, most of what makes up a human body is water. The next biggest chunk of us is actually things that are not us. They are bacteria and parasites of some sort. Those things make up a large part of a human body. So the part of the human body that is solely a human is actually very small. The Earth is made up of mostly water. The majority of her body is not actually her body but bacteria and parasites. To me these are direct parralels and therefore Earth is a being just as much as we are. Just because we do not understand the way in which she exists, does not mean that she is not a being. Therefore, God rules applies to her as well.
Returning to the fall. God did not kick us out of paradise, which to me represents a state of being and not a physical place as I mentioned earlier. Rather, we kicked ourselves out as we had a frequency shift to the lower when we started to view the universe in an unnatural manner: good and evil. When they ate the fruit and knew, then they all of a sudden thought that is was wrong, bad, to be naked. Once we made this shift to duality, we severed our direct connection to the isness or unity. This “original sin” is only viewed as such by us because to God there is no sin. To God it is all part of the great journey of creation, destruction, and experience. What is the meaning of life: To experience. That is it.
The prime action of the universe is creation. The secondary action is destruction (which appeals to the power types but is still not bad or evil). The trinity action is recreation. Without something, there is nothing to destroy. Without destruction we would not have rebirth and growth (consider the cleansing action of forrest fires). This is why many of the power brokers of this planet actually see themselves as shepherds of chaos because they are stuck in the dualist perspective.
I know many here are against any sort of chemical experience, but they can be useful if done with a specific intention. Many people attribute the prime attribute of God as love, but with very little understanding of what that actually means. Your parents love you. Would they get jealous if you interact with and engage other parents? I had an experience in a good place with good people. Think alex grey or Hancock. While it was a brief experience, it was the first time that I have actually felt was love was. Post experience, which the visuals internally are exactly like what alex grey draws, I felt an unconditional positive regard(love) towards EVERYTHING. That is the closest I can put to words what I felt, but yet fails to properly capture it. This feeling had a residue that lasted for a couple weeks. This kind of infinite positive regard is what I imagine is meant when people say God loves you unconditionally. Now how can a being that created and is the source of creation that feels this always condemn you to hell, Forever!? How can this being view anything you do as sin? How can this being be jealous?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was not convincing the world that he didn't exist but rather it was convincing the world that he is God. Also never forget: Judas was merely playing his part in the story and did not betray the intent of Jesus, which is the definition of betrayal. So when Jesus said one of you will betray me, it can't have been Judas because he never countered Jesus' intent.
Sorry if that rambled, I felt compelled to share this and so I just started writing. I didnt really edit it, sorry
I became acquainted with a Yogi while living in Fort Collins. He was on the bus and it was a rather warm day and there was no AC. The bus had to stop for some reason and this man was helping do something with the top of the bus to open it. I was actually mad at him for helping, because it was delaying my trip home after a day at school. The short story is that we actually had a conversation another day about terrorism and al qaeda that lead to an excellent relationship where I learned many things from him. One thing that he offered me early on, and which I rejected wholly at the time, was the fact that there is no good or evil. There only is.
I have since reevaluated my opinion on this philosophy and actually find it to be the most liberating one. Now this may sound like the start of a very lucifarian philosophy, but actually it is exactly the opposite. Let us start from the beginning. In Eden, Adam and Eve are going about there is without little regard for anything really. Then the story has it that a snake convinced Eve to consume the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. She did so and shared this with her counterpart. Then they realized “Holy ****, Im naked!” and dressed themselves. God seeing this is supposed to have kicked the two out of paradise from going against the will of God, which in this case was to not know!
This is an incorrect interpretation. First, no true God would not want you to know. Jesus said, and im paraphrasing, “Blaspheme me, all good. Blashpeme God, still ok. Blashpeme the holy spirit and that is unforgivable.” Recently I had a revelation that the holy spirit is actually gnosis itself! So jesus was saying you can not speak against Truth(knowing what is/was/will be). Now, eden was not a physical place and was an allegorical tale for the fall of man. But what exactly was the fall? Was it eating the fruit and disobeying God? No. Only a god would create a rule such as that. If there is a universal imperative, divinally imposed or inherent, then it would be to err on the side of creation and not destruction. Furthermore, God's rules will scale universally and be applicable to all things, not just humans( how arrogant to think that we have our own special rules!) Thou shall not commit adultery? How does the Earth commit adultery? Thou shall not murder? When the sun goes super nova and destroys this planet, is it sinning? These are rules not made by God because they do not scale universally. (LOL a jealous god you say! Yet more anthropomorphizing God)
As a brief aside, most of what makes up a human body is water. The next biggest chunk of us is actually things that are not us. They are bacteria and parasites of some sort. Those things make up a large part of a human body. So the part of the human body that is solely a human is actually very small. The Earth is made up of mostly water. The majority of her body is not actually her body but bacteria and parasites. To me these are direct parralels and therefore Earth is a being just as much as we are. Just because we do not understand the way in which she exists, does not mean that she is not a being. Therefore, God rules applies to her as well.
Returning to the fall. God did not kick us out of paradise, which to me represents a state of being and not a physical place as I mentioned earlier. Rather, we kicked ourselves out as we had a frequency shift to the lower when we started to view the universe in an unnatural manner: good and evil. When they ate the fruit and knew, then they all of a sudden thought that is was wrong, bad, to be naked. Once we made this shift to duality, we severed our direct connection to the isness or unity. This “original sin” is only viewed as such by us because to God there is no sin. To God it is all part of the great journey of creation, destruction, and experience. What is the meaning of life: To experience. That is it.
The prime action of the universe is creation. The secondary action is destruction (which appeals to the power types but is still not bad or evil). The trinity action is recreation. Without something, there is nothing to destroy. Without destruction we would not have rebirth and growth (consider the cleansing action of forrest fires). This is why many of the power brokers of this planet actually see themselves as shepherds of chaos because they are stuck in the dualist perspective.
I know many here are against any sort of chemical experience, but they can be useful if done with a specific intention. Many people attribute the prime attribute of God as love, but with very little understanding of what that actually means. Your parents love you. Would they get jealous if you interact with and engage other parents? I had an experience in a good place with good people. Think alex grey or Hancock. While it was a brief experience, it was the first time that I have actually felt was love was. Post experience, which the visuals internally are exactly like what alex grey draws, I felt an unconditional positive regard(love) towards EVERYTHING. That is the closest I can put to words what I felt, but yet fails to properly capture it. This feeling had a residue that lasted for a couple weeks. This kind of infinite positive regard is what I imagine is meant when people say God loves you unconditionally. Now how can a being that created and is the source of creation that feels this always condemn you to hell, Forever!? How can this being view anything you do as sin? How can this being be jealous?
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was not convincing the world that he didn't exist but rather it was convincing the world that he is God. Also never forget: Judas was merely playing his part in the story and did not betray the intent of Jesus, which is the definition of betrayal. So when Jesus said one of you will betray me, it can't have been Judas because he never countered Jesus' intent.
Sorry if that rambled, I felt compelled to share this and so I just started writing. I didnt really edit it, sorry