Meteor Impact & Fire Kill 2 In Ohio

[marlowe]

we are now traveling through a very cluttered area of space....we may see large asteroids hitting soon....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SfQJLXwzB0

[marlowe]

more info here

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=257352

[Harley]

This one's probably more accurate. :)


Fire in the Sky News / Meteor did not cause house fire (90 miles from explosion)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCvUKgvgb5k
Published on Sep 28, 2013
81 reports of long duration spectacular fireball in SE USA @ 7:45pm on September 28, 2013.

http://www.amsmeteors.org/
http://www.spaceweather.com/

[ghostrider]

lots of things falling out of the sky , and the mainstream media is once again silent ... go figure

[Star Tsar]

we are now traveling through a very cluttered area of space....

And the space fence is off....

:sick:

[marlowe]

here is a one minute update....lots of fireballs seen across the NE of USA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmYL70-_vGY

[GoodETxSG]

Yes indeed, much going on Above & Below and reported nowhere (MSM wise)...

- 2013's reported "meteors" & "Hinky" explanations & weird reports still of space based conflicts.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57408-2013-s-reported-meteors-Hinky-explanations-weird-reports-still-of-space-based-conflicts.

- Speculating: Global Meteors, Space Based Weapons & Current Struggle for Financial Systems Related?
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55967-Speculating-Global-Meteors-Space-Based-Weapons-Current-Struggle-for-Financial-Systems-Related

[Tesseract]

Meanwhile a piece of the Russian meteor from last year is for sale:

http://en.ria.ru/science/20130929/183827179/Biggest-Chunk-of-Chelyabinsk-Meteorite-Goes-on-Sale.html

[MorningSong]

You can take a look at all of the "reported" and suspected fireballs witnessed in the US and in Canada here (PRETTY AMAZING):

http://amsmeteors.org/members/fireball/browse_reports?report_status=pending

http://amsmeteors.org/

[GoodETxSG]

we are now traveling through a very cluttered area of space....

And the space fence is off....

:sick:

You are on to something, there is a reason they shut it down, it wasn't due to $... and there is a lot more flying around up there right now than "Space Rocks"... Though all of these Meteorites and Meteors cause worry especially with the FEMA/DHS Food Buy Up and recent announcement of "Drills" related to Massive Power Grid Failures and Tsunami Drills to name only a few... But that all is apart of them trying to focus and lead mass consciousness towards their coveted "Kill Shot" or "Mass Kill" scenario. Where they can bring down the hammer...

That is why the sky is filling up with "things" that they do not want to explain. Why the Fence was shut down...

W/the fence ON pinging NEW objects constantly ALL day/night there is WAY toooo much to keep quiet, though it is a mute point if you ask me. They will not be able to hide "ALL OF THEM" for long.

Those of you who live out in the "Boonies" (I have had friends in CO already ask me if I knew w/they were seeing) have to have seen the change in the night time sky in recent months. Soon it will be obvious in broad daylight. All of course IMHO as always let your consciousness bring peace and beauty and not fear.


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I am of course referring to "Occupied Craft" and not "Nibiru" or "ISON" Companions... SOME are our secret space fleet that are bringing it in tight because of all of the recent company. MOST of which (Who have the Space Admirals/FADM's and Air Force Generals/GAF's Shaking in their space booties) are the AS PROMISED Returning Ancients or Space Brother/"Family" of Sorts...

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Published on Sep 2, 2013
http://www.spaceweather.com/ The U.S. Air Force already shut down its space surveillance system that tracks satellites and other orbiting objects by October 1 due to budget constraints caused by automatic federal budget cuts known as the sequestration

SPACE FENCE DISCONTINUED: The US Air Force Space Surveillance Radar or "Space Fence" has stopped transmitting. "It appears they pulled the plug at 00:00 UT (6 am Local MDT) on September 1st," reports engineer Stan Nelson, who has been monitoring the radar using an antenna in Roswell, New Mexico. The shutdown is a result of sequester budget cuts by the US Congress. The radar's final echoes came from a Russian satellite and a sporadic meteor.

The Air Force Space Surveillance System, colloquially known as the Space Fence, is a multistatic radar system that detects orbital objects passing over America. It is a component of the US space surveillance network, and is claimed to be able to detect objects as small as 10 cm (four inches) at heights up to 30,000 km (15,000 nautical miles.)

The surveillance system got the nickname "Space Fence" because it transmits a "fence" of radar energy vertically into space that can detect any object or debris that crosses it without being cued to do so.

REUTERS: U.S. Air Force to shut down 'Space Fence' surveillance system

Besides... They do not NEED a publicly known orbital object tracking system when they have all of the SECRET "Scalar Energy" technology that can be used for tracking or weaponry. Black Budget, Non Accountable, Twice the Evil in one package for these jokers...

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All:

All most interesting. A few comments after reading all the above posts:

1) The Space Fence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Force_Space_Surveillance_System) was never intended to (or able to) stop anything. It was a radar facility that showed when these objects were close, and where they might hit (if they were likely to do so). The vast majority of meteors burn up in the atmosphere, of course, and even a spectacular fireball might only be a piece of rock as large as a baseball traveling at 70,000 mph.

2) It's hard to explain why the number of meteors are increasing over a period of months -- if they are. (And yes, they certainly seem to be.)

That's because the Earth is a moving target in space. It's hurtling round the sun at 67,000 mph, and the location in space where (e.g.) the Russian Chelyabinsk meteor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor) hit the atmosphere in February is now over 300 million miles away, where the Earth was then. So there's no obvious link between (say) that, and what's happening now.

This is always important to remember. The Earth moves so far and fast in space than even when there are two fireballs visible in the atmosphere within a few hours of each other, this does NOT mean that the meteors were somehow 'traveling together'. They couldn't have been.

If your car on the freeway (or your Humvee in Iraq barreling along in the desert) is hit by two bullets an hour apart, there must be two gunmen. Not one firing a rapid sequence of shots. :)

If the number of meteors is increasing, that means that there must be a LOT of meteors (or very small asteroids) in space all over the place -- because it seems we keep on crashing into them.

This MIGHT be something to do with 'Planet X', which (assuming it exists, and all the evidence indicates that it does), is likely to have amassed a large debris field, both in front of AND behind it -- possibly a long way in front.

Comet Ison, which many are keen to point to on YouTube and blame for everything they can think of, is only 3-5 miles across (a tiny object!) and is way out near Mars right now -- so nothing in its tail will or can be anywhere near us. (Tails of comets always point away from the sun, whether they're inbound or outbound, and Mars is much further away from the sun than we are.)

No conclusions. Just some very basic context to help us all understand what we're hearing about.

[norman]

Comet Ison, which many are keen to point to on YouTube and blame for everything they can think of, is only 3-5 miles across (a tiny object!) and is way out near Mars right now -- so nothing in its tail will or can be anywhere near us. (Tails of comets always point away from the sun, whether they're inbound or outbound, and Mars is much further away from the sun than we are.)



Do you actually mean NEAR Mars, or do you mean out from the sun at an equal-ish distance?

If it's near Mars, there are some very expensive toys parked up there that could take some great pictures of Ison.

[KiwiElf]

Comet Ison, which many are keen to point to on YouTube and blame for everything they can think of, is only 3-5 miles across (a tiny object!) and is way out near Mars right now -- so nothing in its tail will or can be anywhere near us. (Tails of comets always point away from the sun, whether they're inbound or outbound, and Mars is much further away from the sun than we are.)



Do you actually mean NEAR Mars, or do you mean out from the sun at an equal-ish distance?

If it's near Mars, there are some very expensive toys parked up there that could take some great pictures of Ison.

Hi Norman, Ison is visible with any home telescope (not to the naked eye yet) above Mars, near Regulus - in New Zealand - that's to our Nth East at dawn. Ison Tracking site in real time is here:

http://theskylive.com/ison-tracker

[Harley]

The US “Space Fence” Has Been Shut Down?

Yes.

But don't fret, we have not been left in the dark!

Here are the facts.

The AFSSS (Space Fence):

* Operational since 1961, is an out-dated and obsolete system consisting of a series of three transmitters and six receivers along the 33rd parallel stretching across the southern United States which are designed to transmit a “fence” of radar energy vertically into space to detect all objects intersecting that fence.

* Was just one part of the AFSPC’s Global Space Surveillance Network. The operational advantage of the AFSSS was its ability to detect objects in an un-cued fashion, rather than tracking objects based on previous information. But it's disadvantage was the inherent inaccuracy of the data, based on its dated design.

* The Perimeter Acquisition Radar Characterization System at Cavalier Air Force Station, N.D. and the space surveillance radar at Eglin Air Force Base, Fla. have been modified with new operating modes which allows the discontinuation of AFSSS operations while still maintaining solid space situational awareness.

* The new operating modes at Cavalier AFS and Eglin AFB will provide more accuracy than the AFSSS and still collect un-cued observations.

* Being classified as an obsolete system, the AFSSS shutdown which had previously been scheduled for Oct 1 could now be included within the automatic budget cuts known as “sequestration”, and the shutdown came a month earlier than anticipated. (Note that this had nothing to do with the anticipated government shutdown of Oct 1.) This shutdown will allow the Air Force Space Command to see a cost savings of approximately $14 million per year, beginning in fiscal 2014 when the new space fence radar will be purchased.

* The new space fence radar being planned for Kwajalein Island in the Republic of the Marshall Islands will provide very precise positional data on orbiting objects and will be the most accurate radar in the Space Surveillance Network. It will provide enhanced space surveillance capabilities to detect and track orbiting objects such as commercial and military satellites, depleted space boosters and space debris. It will have much greater sensitivity, allowing it to detect, track and measure an object the size of a softball orbiting more than 1,200 miles in space. Because it is also an un-cued tracking system, it will provide evidence of satellite break-ups, collisions, or unexpected maneuvers of satellites.

My sources:
ARRL (http://www.arrl.org/news/us-space-fence-shut-down)
U.S. Air Force (http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDisplay/tabid/223/Article/466832/air-force-space-command-to-discontinue-space-surveillance-system.aspx)

:)

[GoodETxSG]

Thanks Harley,
They are pretty confident shutting down a fairly cheap program that helps monitor trillions of dollars in hardware that is extremely vulnerable up there...

Makes you wonder though how they expect to re-task those billion dollar satellites or move them at a moments notice to dodge those pesky little pieces of space junk and other debris whizzzzzzin around bouncing off each other and changing trajectory...

Just what are they going to do for that 30 +/- day window with out having any "EYES" tracking such expensive objects in the interim?

The scary thing is that this tech that they are TELLING US ABOUT that is "NEW" and taking the place of the "old" fence is of course outdated many generations ago... IMHO.

[Mandala]

Absolutely true Bill with your assessment.

[ghostrider]

since comet ison is close, it could be when it passed through the asteroid belt it did a pinball effect , thus we get a few more rocks tumbling our way ... meteors are more common than you know, we get hit all the time , all the time ... a piece of debris bumped pinballs into another piece of space debris that hits something else and you get space junk bouncing around all the time ...

[Nick Matkin]

Meteors strike our upper atmosphere TENS OF THOUSANDS of times a day. Most are no bigger than grains of sand, some so small that even on a clear moonless night they don't give a visible trace. These all burn up at least 50 miles above the ground.

They really do exist in such huge numbers; meteor-scatter communications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_burst_communications) - where radio signals are bounced off the visible and invisible ionised meter trails - are used 24/7 by the military, commercial organizations and radio enthusiasts.

But I guess we are really discussing the 'big ones' or at least ones we can see leaving a streak of light. I think we need to consult amateur astronomy groups and ask them if the number of big ones or small ones is increasing. These enthusiasts have many ways of detecting them and there will be chatter amongst them if the numbers significantly change. (And don't forget there are at least seven significant predictable meteor showers which the Earth passes through each year.)

As I've said before, there are many, many groups of well-equipped amateurs across the world who continuously check the state of the magnetosphere, ionosphere, troposphere, seismic activity, solar activity, ELF/VLF activity, astronomical activity, the moon, sun, etc. They are not in anyone's pockets so are unlikely to be silenced if they report anything unusual. We really don't have to rely on NASA or any government-funded organizations for news of anomalous activity. If it's there, amateur groups will report it!

If meteors (or meteorites when they have touched the ground) are being reported more frequently, there is another rather mundane explanation; lazy journalism.

A 'big one' is reported, public interest is raised, reporters report stories they wouldn't have bothered with before. So the impression is the activity has increased. It happens all the time with news reports all any number of subjects, and then fades back down as the public get tired of the subject.

OK, that doesn't necessarily explain why more people are reporting what they see, unless the news reports make them more inclined to look upwards. But like I said, ask amateur astronomers if you want the data.

Nick

[Harley]

As an aside, thanks for mentioning this Nick!


Meteors strike our upper atmosphere TENS OF THOUSANDS of times a day. Most are no bigger than grains of sand, some so small that even on a clear moonless night they don't give a visible trace. These all burn up at least 50 miles above the ground.

They really do exist in such huge numbers; meteor-scatter communications (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_burst_communications) - where radio signals are bounced off the visible and invisible ionised meter trails - are used 24/7 by the military, commercial organizations and radio enthusiasts.

I once contracted in the 80's with a company called Meteor Communications Corporation (http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=27508394). It was fun!

http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/cryptologic_quarterly/meteo_burst.pdf

I know :focus:

:)

[Bill Ryan]

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This report was posted on Alex Jones' website today:

Surprise Asteroid in Near Miss With Earth (http://www.infowars.com/surprise-asteroid-in-near-miss-with-earth)

That really rather shocked me. Assuming this report is accurate -- and I have NOT double-checked -- a 15-meter asteroid (50 feet) is really quite big and if it had impacted on land could have wiped out a small city and killed hundreds of thousands of people with an explosive force of ~150 kilotons. (Or if it had hit the ocean, it could have generated a tsunami with a height between 20 and 40 feet).

It was the same size as the February Chelyabinsk meteor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor) that exploded over Russia. (Whether it breaks up in the atmosphere or not depends on its composition. A denser rock would not break up in the atmosphere as the Chelyabinsk object did.)

You may find this website interesting. It enables one to calculate the 'what if?' consequences of an impact, depending on all the many variables. That's what I used to estimate the the above data. Small differences in the parameters can make a large difference in the potential impact.

http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk

The asteroid was discovered by Russian scientists a mere 9 hours before the fly-by. It missed us by 7,000 miles. The Earth is traveling at 70,000 mph, so (depending on the exact trajectory) it's possible that it missed us by as little as a tenth of an hour: that's 6 minutes.

There's a report (with an entertaining but very exaggerated and over-dramatic simulation) here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYJoyzN9JdM

[Harley]

Assuming this report is accurate -- and I have NOT double-checked --

Did a quick search and it looks like it was originally reported by RT News (http://rt.com/news/asteroid-russia-near-earth-530/)


[B]Asteroid near-miss reported by Russian scientists
Published time: September 30, 2013 11:08
Edited time: September 30, 2013 17:42

http://rt.com/files/news/20/99/a0/00/asteroid-russia-near-earth.si.jpg

A 15-meter asteroid, similar to the object that exploded above Russia in February, moving at a speed of 16km per second, was detected hours before it narrowly missed Earth over the weekend, according to Russian scientists.

"[The asteroid] was discovered on Friday night by our station near Lake Baikal and nine hours later it flew within 11,300km of the Earth’s surface, below the orbit of geostationary satellites. It was about 15 meters in size,” Vladimir Lipunov of the Moscow State University and the Sternberg Astronomical Institute indicated.

Lipunov also pointed out his team had notified the International Astronomical Union of their discovery, but it is yet to be confirmed, RIA Novosti news agency reported.

The Russian astronomers stated that the asteroid has disappeared now.

The scientists also considered the possibility of this asteroid being space debris: a launch-vehicle stage or a piece of an unmanned Mars explorer. Its trajectory was detected to pass near Mars. However, the search in the space debris catalogue shed no light.

http://rt.com/files/news/20/99/a0/00/966609754.gif

It comes less than a year after a meteorite exploded above the city of Chelyabinsk in the Urals. It weighed 10,000 tons prior to the blast, the scientists indicated.

About 1,500 people were injured in the explosion, most of them from the shockwave that broke glass.

Over the next century, astronomers predict many asteroids will pass Earth, with one the closest near-misses expected in April 2029. 99942 Apophis is set to pass 38.5 thousand km from the center of the planet.

http://rt.com/files/news/20/99/a0/00/rian_01346629.hr.jpg
http://rt.com/news/asteroid-russia-near-earth-530/

[Nanoo Nanoo]

we are now traveling through a very cluttered area of space....

And the space fence is off....

:sick:

lol you funny thing you

[MorningSong]

For what it's worth... Before It's News has an article up on this new asteroid and I can vouch that the Meteo Magazine article (in English) is originally from an Italian site found listed below.

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/09/newly-discovered-hazardous-asteroid-moving-in-the-direction-of-earth-to-arrive-within-24-hours-2466674.html

http://www.centrometeoitaliano.it/appena-scoperto-asteroide-potenzialmente-pericoloso-per-la-terra-1822/

Aaaaand, here's the report in Russian from SAI Space Monitoring Laboratory.. couldn't get it to translate...uffa.

http://master.sai.msu.ru/en/news/152

Maybe this is it:

http://www.astronomerstelegram.org/?read=5432