"Mars goes Comet" -- Prof James McCanney

[Maia Gabrial]

Since everyone's attention is being diverted from Comet Ison with the govt shutdown and all, here's a short audio that might explain what's going on. Anyone know anymore about this?

http://thelightofdayradioshow.com/archives/mp3_misc/Dinardo/Mccanney-on-JR-Moore_Mars-goes-Comet.mp3

[Bill Ryan]

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As best I understand:

"Mars gone Comet" is of course a dramatic attention-grabbing headline. :) Though McCanney did say this (talking to John Moore) as a summary!

What this means is that there seems to have been an interaction between Ison and Mars that has produced a 'coma' (halo) effect on Mars -- which may be (IMO) an electromagnetic induction effect. Other members may know more. It's certainly interesting for astronomers -- and if McCanney says he has observed this with good equipment, there's no reason to doubt it.

A good part of the short radio show excerpt was speculation about whether there was also a conspiracy in progress that was preventing US-govt-paid professional astronomers from observing this as it was happening.

(My comment: the amateur astronomers, and professional astronomers in every other country, will of course be watching closely, if this is a real phenomenon.)

[Cristian]

I dont understand how can we discuss this without pictures? We need pictures!


It’s not much to look at, but there it is: the incoming comet ISON (aka C/2012 S1) as seen by the HiRISE camera aboard NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter.

http://d1jqu7g1y74ds1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ISON-detail.jpg


ok maybe better pics than the one above :P

[Nick Matkin]

I don't understand why NASA would conceal this unusual behaviour, particularly it's of no danger to Earth. Prof James McCanney didn't explain this in that audio clip.

If the US government departments weren't closed, this would surely be something they would want to report, along the lines of: "Look what we've observed now with your tax dollars. Never seen it before. Isn't it fascinating...?"

NASA will look very stupid indeed if they decide not to report something that becomes obvious to the rest of the world's astronomers.

[Maia Gabrial]

NASA is not the honest organization you think it is, Nick. They doctor all their photos to the public to hide the truth. They don't answer our questions.
So, while it is a fascinating thing to observe Mars doing, they don't want us to know anything; especially since there IS life on Mars...

NASA already looks stupid, imo....

[Nick Matkin]

NASA is not the honest organization you think it is, Nick. They doctor all their photos to the public to hide the truth. They don't answer our questions.
So, while it is a fascinating thing to observe Mars doinb, they don't want us to know anything; especially since there IS life on Mars...

NASA already looks stupid, imo....

I didn't say NASA was honest, but on this occasion what purpose is served by NASA being dishonest?

I mean, what's the point? Unless we think they are hiding some 'doom porn' scenario.

Why can't NASA say they've observed something new? It's not a threat. 'Big it up' so the sheeple think it's worth their tax dollars. If it's real it will be confirmed by other astronomers across the world. If NASA hide something, it will be revealed. NASA doesn't have a monopoly on optical or radio telescopes.

And as to hiding life on other planets; why would they do that (naive question)? For much of the last century and before, respected astronomers assumed there was life on other planes, particularly Mars. Remember the artificial 'canals'?

Religion didn't collapse, neither did the fabric of society. People just shrugged their shoulders and said "so what?"

When did it all change? After the 1938 US 'War of the Worlds' radio broadcast? 1947 Roswell?

What am I missing here?

Nick

[Ultima Thule]

Mars going comet does sound a bit akin to what David Talbott and Wallace Thornhill are suggesting. Namely that our solar system has gone through electrical events with plasma interactions. Venus for example has according to their electric universe theory at times exhibited comet like tail.

I think the theory is well worth pursuing, do look at the thread here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56972-The-Electric-Universe-by-Wallace-Thornhill-and-David-Talbott&p=736792&viewfull=1#post736792

UT

[delfine]

Here is a good computer-model of what is happening. It correlates nicely with the info in the OP.
If this is fairly reliable, it also has info on when earth can expect to be hit by massive amounts of debris from ISON:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzbLNaIAiTA

[Nick Matkin]

Interesting video, except the scale is all wrong (planets hugely oversized for clarity, and not to scale) and there may be a 'north/south' orientation in the solar system (but I've never heard of it in any true astronomical sense) but there certainly isn't an 'east' or 'west'. Those are terrestrial references! These clangers alone make me very suspicious of the video's validity.

And if Ison is so close to Mars, er... shouldn't it be showing up on Mars Rover's images - amongst others? Oh, yes. NASA is hiding them. (Why...?)

I think Bill posted a good Ison-in-the-solar-system video a week or two back on another thread which provided a much more accurate track of Ison's orbit and location.

Nick