Coffee, Cigarettes & Gnosis

[dianna]

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[dianna]

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The Great Anti-Smoking Conspiracy
We all know that smoking is bad for you. We all know that the smoker - when laid to rest - his life cut short, will have coughed up his lungs, had a dodgy heart, bad circulation, bad breath, rotten teeth, bronchitis, a floppy todger, and - having lit his last fag - blown himself up in his own oxygen tent.

And we all know, because of this, that the government in it's wisdom is working hard to protect us by banning - in public places - the smoking of tabs, so that now, when you go to a pub, the air is so clean that there is nothing to mask the farts and body odour of the obese clientele.

And we also know that smoking, if not curtailed, will end up costing us billions of squids, because the smoker - selfish bastard that he is - is hogging all the beds in the national health.

And I used these arguments the other day - defending the smoking ban - to my mate Fiddle-dak Price. He stopped me dead. Big hand on my shoulder. Looked me hard in the eyes.

"Nah mate. That's bollocks! They didn't ban smoking because it's bad for your elf. They banned smoking because it promotes free-thinking."

I was flummoxed.

"An as for that **** about costing the elf service... that's even more bollocks!"

I was still flummoxed! I voiced it. "But but but..." I said.

"Thought you'd a worked it out," Said Fiddle-dak, cutting me short. "Basic arithmetic. What you save in the cancer ward you lose in the care home. All those non-smokers are gonna live longer, go senile, and waste away in an old people's home. Gonna cost the taxpayer a lot more money!"

"But even so," I replied. "Surely it's better to live longer!"

"Ain't denying it," Replied Fiddle-dak. "Just saying that that ain't the reason they're banning fags. They're banning fags cause they make people naughty. Makes 'em rebellious."

"That's... that's just no true!"

"Yes it is. There's something in fags that promotes free-thinking. It's a property of the tobacco."

He paused. "Governments don't like free-thinking, it makes naughty and rebellious people. Makes the government's job much harder!"

"Where are you getting this from," I replied. "Sounds like a conspiracy theory!"

"Not a conspiracy theory," replied Fiddle-dak. "A conspiracy fact!"

The Gypsy Philosopher Explains the Theory

And while I remained gob-smacked, Fiddle-dak Price, the gypsy philosopher, gypsy arithmetician and gypsy prize-fighter, explained to me how tobacco - and it's rebellious inducing properties - had changed the world since it's discovery in the Americas, and why the governments of the world were so anxious to ban it! And not just now but in the distant past too!

"Before tobacco was brought to Europe," continued Fiddle-dak, "Your common man lived in servitude... He lived in a feudal system... Did as he was told... no questions asked. Tobacco comes to Europe, and the feudal system starts to break down. People are thinking for themselves. If you need any more evidence look at America... The home of tobacco. No feudal system there. The red Indians were all smokers. Lived a hunter gatherers life... Bit like the gypsies. Free spirits, rebellious, fought the white man all the way. And look at the white himself in America. He took up smoking, rebelled against the British and set up a democracy. That's what tobacco does!"

Fiddle-dak paused.

"Of course, didn't take long for the governments to realise this. King James the first hated smoking. He tried to ban it. But tobacco had done it's work. Smoking men overthrew him... the English revolution... He was done for! And the Czar in Russia... he did manage to ban it. No mystery there why the feudal system lasted so long! In fact... All tyrants have hated smoking. Adolf Hitler, Mussolini, Himmler... And look at the men who defeated them. Churchill, Roosevelt, Stalin... all smokers! Admittedly, Stalin was a bit dodgy! But it proves the point!"

I began to see sense in Fiddle-dak's argument.

"And think back to when you was at school. It was the kids who smoked who were a bit naughty. More likely to rebel. The teachers hated them... couldn't control them. And that's why the government don't want us to smoke. They want us to be good. They want us to pay their taxes, have identity cards, support their wars... They don't want free-thinking and rebellious people."

And when Fiddle-dak had finished we were on the hill overlooking the tan where his trailer was parked. He told me that his missus was cooking a meat pudding and that I was welcome to have some. But if we wanted to smoke our cigars we'd have to do it outside, because she would not tolerate those filthy things inside her trailer - and he wasn't going to argue with her.

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[dianna]

An Opinion from Hell

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Smoking and the Age of Reason


For thousands of years European civilisation had been built on slavery and serfdom. The feudal system and religion kept everyone in their place. Despite wars, plagues and the collapse of the Roman Empire and centuries of the dark age, European society remained strictly hierarchical. So why did concepts such as 'Liberty' and 'Freedom' suddenly become all the rage in the 17th and 16th centuries. Why did the European settlers in America rebel and demand liberty in 1776? Why did the French revolt in 1789? Why did the English kill their King in 1649?

They called it 'The Age of Reason'; they rejected the superstitious thinking of the past and began to seek rational explanations for the workings of the world. Men such as Isaac Newton began to think in ways that had never been seen before. People began to question things. Why should kings rule us? They asked. Is it really right to buy and sell human beings as though they were nothing more than a commodity, people wondered?

By the 19th century the monarch of the United Kingdom was little more than a symbol of power, she had very little real power. The house of Commons had more influence than the Lords and almost all men could vote. America had a civil war to end slavery. France had a revolution every 20 years or so. The whole world was agitating for freedom and change.

So what happened to the people of Europe and the Americas that suddenly caused them to no longer bear the indignity of oppression, which they had so unquestioningly accepted before? Why did the Europeans start thinking freely?

In 1492 Islam was removed from the Iberian peninsula, Columbus didn't find a short cut to Asia, and Europeans found out about tobacco. The middle ages promptly finished. It would be another 60 years before tobacco would be introduced to Europe but within a generation of that the practice of smoking was widespread. By the time King James VI of Scotland became King James I of England in 1603, England had become a nation of smokers.

James hated smoking and witchcraft. He also hated Parliament, which prevented him from practicing what he saw as his divine right to rule as an absolute Monarch. He had a mediaeval mind-set, but his subjects did not. Less than half a century later republicans killed his son who shared his views and England became a republic. How did this happen?

My theory is that nicotine was the cause. This drug agitates the brain causing the user to crave it more than food, sex, water, or anything. No drug is more addictive. As a result smokers are disinclined to be content. They seek to be rewarded constantly. This is not a state of mind desirable in a slave or serf who is expected to serve for little or no reward. Also smoking is best enjoyed in company. Smokers have a habit of gathering and chatting. This causes them to be friendly, and friendly groups of people who gather and chat are likely start to have ideas about things. Smoking creates an optimistic outlook, because the smoker is always looking forward to his next smoke. Optimists expect things to improve which makes them a problem to tyrants who want their subjects to get used to things being bad and hope they accept things getting worse.

It is no coincidence that the greatest democracy the world has ever seen, was created by a libertarian revolution in the continent that gave the world nicotine. The North American Indians had smoked for centuries and as a result never developed the slave-based civilisations of Europe and Asia. The slave-based society created by the Europeans in America soon collapsed and was replaced with a society obsessed with freedom, equality and justice. Why did this happen if it wasn't nicotine?

It is my feeling that scientists are fully aware of the nicotine's ability to render humans less pliable and controllable than they would be without nicotine, which is why the great health scare thing, was dreamed up in the sixties. Doctors knew that many things shortened people's lives: hard work; junk food; alcohol; joining the Army, but they also knew that these things were good for the Economy. Nicotine had turned people so against authority that by the late 1960's there was evidence that the whole western world was going Native American. The Hippie revolution had turned a whole generation into Quasi- Apache Indians and it couldn't all be blamed on The High Chaparral. The Vietnam war was being lost because teenagers were no longer willing to sacrifice their lives for the benefit of their government. Something had to be done.

In the last 40 years since the height of the Vietnam war and the hippie revolution smoking has greatly decreased in the western world through laws and campaigns against it. The smoker has been demonised, and thrown out of bars and pubs. And so the world is changing again. The Class System is getting stronger. Religious belief is on the rise. Rationalism is in retreat. Freedom of Speech is not what it was. No one calls The Western World, the Free World any more. 19-year-old boys die in our wars and we feel pride at their sacrifice and not shame for luring them to their deaths. The slave-serf - mindset is returning. The Dark Ages are returning. Already Christians believe in witches again. Leaders such as Bush and Blair are not ashamed to admit that they thought God guided them. King James has returned and Adolf Hitler's vision of a world without freedom and cigarettes is quickly coming true.

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[Hazel]

Every point of view is permitted its merit - if verifiable

here are a few pointers from the top of my head toward such:

**tobacco is used in Divination rituals by different cultures e.g by Native Americans and famously in the Wiccan tradition

**science tells us about its physiological/psychological heightening effects on our behaviours

**after dinner smoking practices were very fashionable in the 18th/19th centuries where men came together and chewed the socio/political fat.

**it became one of the signatures of a womans self-soveriegnty over what was acceptable during the emancipation era and arguably forward from then...

put that in your pipe and smoke it... wink

[superconsciousness]

tobacco is a plant, a consciousness with strong group interconnected soul. it is a grounding communicator and must be respected in its relationship use - like all plants. When tobacco, vehicle connector to root earth energy is mixed with fire, it activates the etheric paintbrush and becomes a powerful facilitator.

[Prodigal Son]

I smoked for 32 years, a pack and a half per day and sometimes more. I could go through a whole pack during a good extended happy hour. Amongst my Jehovah's Witness group of friends, smoking was a preferred mode of rebellion against the Pharisee elders and their tyrannical God.

Every word of this rings true to me.

My last cigarette was on March 4, 2009. I won't go back to smoking, but something had always told me that it isn't the nicotine or anything in the tobacco that kills you, but the 4,000 chemicals that are added of which 69 are known to cause cancer....

http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients.html

Just another way the global elite have been getting away with mass murder right under our noses.

But there's good news....

Many of the same people who scoffed at similar statements I made six months ago are now nodding their heads in agreement.

[Hazel]

Always interesting... what facts can be revealed by sharing our experiential knowing here on Avalon

Thank you Surfer and Prodigal Son for your detailed expose's on the subject

valuable to me I can assure you!

[Atlantean Avatar]

Funny thing here in Australia. It's illegal to grow your own tobacco and smoke it. I guess because you wouldn't add 4000+ toxic chemicals to it before you lit up.

[Shikasta]

"it isn't the nicotine or anything in the tobacco that kills you, but the 4,000 chemicals that are added of which 69 are known to cause cancer...." Prodigal Son

That about sums it up. Tobacco is so adulterated now. The cigarette/drug manufacturing cartels have been publicly caught out using devious means to hook people into becoming seriously addicted to their products.

I'm a non-smoker, but have briefly experienced the addictive properties of the 'cancer sticks' that masquerade as 'tobacco products'. Not unlike the use of aspartame in so many 'sugar-free' products, and linked to so many of the health-related issues, including obesity, neurological and hormonal disruption, and sundry other 'side effects'.

The tobacco that my mum and dad used in the last century have little similarity with what is now available. I've met two ex-heroin addicts who said cigarettes were far more difficult to give up than heroin. I watched an interview with a tobacco company chief executive who denied that cigarettes caused cancers. However, at the end of the interview he was asked if he wanted his children to smoke. The look on his face when he forcefully said 'NO' negated every weasel word he'd previously spoken in the interview!

[eaglespirit]

"I'm gonna go light a good long pipe, Aho!"

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

My family grew tobacco when I was a kid. :)

This is cool to think about. Additives are BAD.
Natural is good.

[Team Zen]

If i can get my hands on some seeds...

http://theoldfirm.hubpages.com/hub/Tobacco-Growing-and-Curing-at-Home

[Shannow]

The whole idea rings true, and has since I spent days listening to Allan Watts speaking, and smoking...and thinking some time ago.

Cigarrettes disgust me, but I've always been tempted by a pipe...never tried it.

[Marianne]

Tobacco is a sacred plant to the American Indians and has been an interest of mine even though I've never smoked. (I have had a serious 3-homemade cookie-a-day habit though).

About growing seeds... on a whim, I started a half-dozen wild tobacco seeds late this summer and they grew well. I wanted some home grown tobacco leaves to use in ceremonies and gifting. A hungry caterpillar liked them, and munched them down to nubs.

Team Zen, that's a good article you linked. I noticed they give a website to buy seeds.

Here's a PDF on how to grow, harvest and cure tobacco
http://sustainableseedco.com/images/Seed_Starting_Instructions_for_Tobacco.pdf

Some heirloom seeds for sale
https://www.superseeds.com/products.php?cat=402

Seed exchanges:

A forum 'Dedicated to supporting American tobacco growers and consumers without intervention from Big tobacco or Big government'.
http://wholeleaftobaccollc.com/forum/showthread.php?756-Members-seed-exchange

And another
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/exseed/msg0516174722205.html

An article on wild tobacco, which is the kind I grew from seed.
http://www.alchemy-works.com/nicotiana_rustica.html

I've read that tobacco is a strong and hardy plant, and the tiny sprouts that germinated so fast for me were proof of that. They were a vibrant green and exuded life. I expect to try growing them again soon : )

[dianna]

"Coffee, God And Cigarettes"



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I used to worship whiskey, now I only drink the lord
And I take my coffee, cream and seven sugars
Before we meet we stand out on the sidewalk as it pours
Swappin' one addiction for another

Coffee, God and cigarettes are all that I need
It's all that I need just to break this routine
Coffee, God and cigarettes are all that you need
It's all that you need just to be as free as me

When I run into my old friends still drinkin' from that cup
I never stay too long as I've been tempted
I say you know drink the devils brew, you know it's just a
crutch
No longer must you live your life Dependant

Coffee, God and cigarettes are all that I need
It's all that I need just to break this routine
Coffee, God and cigarettes are all that you need
It's all that you need just to be as free as me

Now what made me give, turn off the road that ends at the cliff
Took the car out for a spin, crashed the party, blood runs thin
Was it wakin up with fifty stitches in my gourd
Was it dreamin' about bourbon in the trauma ward
Well I knew I was surely gonna end up dead
If I didn't embrace coffee, God and cigarettes

Coffee, God and cigarettes are all that I need
It's all that I need just to break this routine
Coffee, God and cigarettes are all that you need
It's all that you need just to be as free as me

[Hazel]

A quiet spirit imbues its own medicine.. return and safety in this world

The tobacco road is an entry point / if that..

as an allie.. (only secondary to our inner spirit) .. / tobacco is but a co-dependent

How to embrace self-sovereignty and why for... ?

[Mike Gorman]

Nice to see some fellow Tobacco lovers on here-these days everyone has become so straight, conservative and holier-than-thou-it's like the 1950's
have come around once again-the great Pendulum swings inexorably, perhaps we will have to go through another 60's to mitigate all that clean living!
Cigarettes were always a temptation to me, at the age of 10 I used to smoke quite regularly, there is definitely something about smoking that engenders
an 'Up yours' attitude, or is it that rebellious souls are just experimental types, seeking to break out of the dungeon of the Mundane? The same people who smoked
in School often were the first to score a little Hash, or Pot and discover yet another diversion, a different tangent to view the world from...we grew up in the 1970's,
nearly everyone smoked, drank and imbibed in various drugs-we never did anyone any harm, or meant any harm. These days I 'Vape' on electric cigarettes, using Nicotine
fluid-Glycerin and Popylene Glycol with tobacco flavoring...I like them, I find it relaxing, an aid to thinking-and no smoke-yes i still have an occasional Tobacco Cig-but 1-2
not packets. To me smoking is a choice, that is the crux of the matter, since when was personal habit a political matter? If you choose to smoke, that is your business-as long as others are not
affected. I might grow some real Tobacco, it would be great to make your own.

[Hazel]

Nice approach from GalaxyHorse.. am in complete sympatico with that endless desire..

[chocolate]

I've never smoked in this life, but on several occasions this year I felt so deep desire to lite one that I probably should buy some organic tobacco and see how it goes. Coffee... I live off of that thing.