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Skywizard
13th October 2013, 15:03
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A new exhibit in Brazil showcases artifacts dating as far back as 30,000 years ago -- throwing a wrench in the commonly held theory humans first crossed to the Americas from Asia a mere 12,000 years ago.

The 100 items on display in Brasilia, including cave paintings and ceramic art, depict animals, ceremonies, hunting expeditions -- and even scenes from the sex lives of this ancient group of early Americans.

The artifacts come from the Serra da Capivara national park in Brazil's northeastern Piaui state, on the border of the Amazon and Atlantic Forests, which attracted the hunter-gatherer civilization that left behind this hoard of local art.

Since the 1970s, Franco-Brazilian archaeologist Niede Guidon has headed a mission to carry out large-scale excavation of Piaui's interior.

"It's difficult to think there exists a site anywhere with a higher concentration of cave art," the 80-year-old Guidon told AFP.

Many paths led to Americas

Other traces of the civilization include charcoal remains of structured fires, explained Guidon, who hails from Sao Paulo.

"To date, these are the oldest traces" of human existence in the Americas, she emphasized.

The widely held theory has suggested human beings only reached the Americas some 12,000 years ago from Asia, crossing the Bering Strait to reach Alaska.

Some archeologists contend flaked pebbles at the Brazilian sites are not evidence of a crude, human-made fire hearth made some 40 millennia ago, but are rather geofacts -- a natural stone formation, not a man-made one.

But Guidon said she believes the Serra dwellers may have come originally from Africa, and she said the cave art provides compelling evidence of early human activity.

The paintings are estimated to date back some 29,000 years, she said, noting: "When it began in Europe and Africa, it did here too."

Other sites, including Valsequillo in Mexico and Monte Verde in Chile, also indicate the presence of communities tens of thousands of years ago.

These sites have led archeologists to speculate that peoples traveled various routes to reach the Americas and at different stages, archeologist Gisele Daltrini Felice told AFP.

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RMorgan
13th October 2013, 17:02
The Serra da Capivara national park is one of the most beautiful national parks I've ever visited, specially for those who like archaeology.

There's also the Parque Nacional das Sete Cidades, which is even cooler, in the same state.

There are stone drawings in the above cited park attributed to the Phoenicians and even the Vikings...It's simply awesome.

If any of you decide to come for Brazil on vacation, I highly recommend making a boat trip through the Paranaíba river delta...You would be able to visit all those parks and many more amazing places.

By the way, thanks for the news. :)

Raf.

mojo
13th October 2013, 17:16
Trying to figure out what possible image they reproducing as it looks like a tower but has legs and feet, with a slightly different look to each one, but what were they trying to portray?

Davidallany
13th October 2013, 20:52
Trying to figure out what possible image they reproducing as it looks like a tower but has legs and feet, with a slightly different look to each one, but what were they trying to portray?It seems that the drawings are not very accurate in whatever they represent. For instance the legs and feet of the animal.

Ellisa
14th October 2013, 00:36
More evidence to support pushing back yet another date! The photos show the same sort of primitive cave art as in Australia--- and they are dated to 30-40,000 years ago and help support evidence for human habitation, it is gradually being accepted, starting many years before that. The Euro/North American-centric 'experts' are finding these artefacts very unsettling as they blow apart their beautifully honed ideas, and possibly their careers, in more conventional pre-history theories.

The description of the national parks sounds beautiful, and I would love to see them! I think Brazil, like Australia, is a long way from anywhere else! Mostly that's a good thing I think!

ghostrider
14th October 2013, 00:46
More proof civilization is much much older than mainstream tells the world ...

RMorgan
14th October 2013, 02:53
I think Brazil, like Australia, is a long way from anywhere else! Mostly that's a good thing I think!

Yes my friend...Brazil is not so isolated as Australia, I mean, you can ride the whole American continent from here, by car, if you wish...

However, sure, it's a huge country...You can simply stay away from everything else...And it's not that hard.

I guess it's similar to Australia in that sense...If you got that thing running down on your veins...That connection to Earth...You can just disappear.

Even being born here and living here ever since, it took me years to find out what the real Brazilian spirit is all about...and it's not about samba or soccer.

Raf.

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14th October 2013, 03:40
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A few more mysteries in Brazilian lands.
Above: STONE INGÁ in Brazil and its mysterious inscriptions. The Stone Inga, or Itacoatiara, is formed by blocks of gneiss divided into three panels, with the main block size of 24 meters long by 3.8 m high. There are many ridges and points capsular sequenced, ordered that resemble constellations of stars, ships, snakes, ferns and various animals and symbols still unknown in its meaning, looking all the way natives or visitors from other latitudes (or other planets ) had to announce ideas or record facts and legends, which presents a great potential for tourism and culture, however explored so extremely irregular.