What Can Be Told - by Gordon Duff, VT

[KiwiElf]

A curious article from Gordon Duff - Something Wicked this Way Comes? It's not so much what Gordon writes, but what he hints at in the "comments" below the article... - click the link on the VT page to read more - KE

What Can Be Told
Sunday, October 13th, 2013 | Posted by Gordon Duff

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/10/13/what-can-be-told/

Perspectives on Recent Issues/Threats/Promises
Anomalies Near Comet Ison (Chinese Space Agency)

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By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

There has been a recent flood of disinformation in all media. Normally, systematic mythology is the “meat and potatoes” of Fox News and the New York Times. It is now pervasive and with reason.

Events have transpired that have led to the inexplicable things we are reading about, nuclear command officers removed, nuclear weapons inventories disappearing, FEMA buying everything in sight, earthquakes off the US coast, the “shutdown,” our mysterious new “peace bomb” in Syria and with Tehran.

If you believe none of it makes any sense, you have been paying attention. It is all related, all a ploy.

BIG ROCKS

The primary concern is to the Northern Hemisphere which is threatened by the potential collision of two groups of asteroids. One is very bad, the other is worse.

Toward that end, within the realm of what can be done and what is rational, “prepper” mode should be entered.

Keep vehicles fueled

Store reasonable water

Get a water purification filter system

Have storable and transportable food

Consider a “bug out bag” warm clothing, gun, compass/GPS etc

Decide on a survival weapon (Henry AR 7 recommended). Survival doesn’t mean “assault.”

WHAT WE CAN SAY

The current thawing in international relations is related to very strong cooperation between nuclear powers toward intercepting, yes, right out of the movies, several critical threats. Weapons systems have already been launched. Just as President Reagan had predicted in his UN speech, nations have come together.

Toward that end, keeping damaging and insane speculation out of the press has led to a restructuring of our military, shutting down NASA and some of the FEMA activities which are not intended to be threatening. They are simply doing their jobs.

As this is a very dramatic period and we are unable to openly discuss what should be the business of everyone, I am sorry.

Were I to write what I have been told officially, even I would lock me up.

Do not spread rumors. Many of you out there can take this and figure much of it out.

Out of respect, I can say this: The news media has not been informed, nor has congress and the vast majority of the military leadership. Toward that end, were I to pass on information that seems, at best, insane or bizarre, I would be doing no one a service.

ISON

For those watching Comet Ison or following the stories about it, I was asked to mention that “they aren’t crazy, there is really something very wrong going on.”

WEATHER

There was an earthquake off the US East Coast a short time ago. I am unable to confirm that it was caused by a nuclear weapon. I am also unable to NOT CONFIRM it was caused by a nuclear weapon and I am in that loop.

“We” are told there is an issue with weather in the Northern United States and in Europe. The prediction is “severe and extended cold.”

However, every since seeing the Clint Eastwood/Lee Marvin film, “Paint Your Wagon,” no sane person, no matter what evidence, will predict a “mini ice age.”

There is no discussion of global warming/cooling or any issues tied to this. One can assume they are related but, were I to say that, it would be my opinion and not tied to any information I have received.

The Gulf Stream has become “unstable.” There are “issues” tied to “correcting that.” There is controversy about this with the operative term, “controversy” being one of the understatements of all time.

Thus, I recommend reasonable preparations that should have been done anyway.

There is talk about the government manipulating civil unrest. There is some evidence of this.

“We” are going to look at this and if we believe this to be a threat, we will strongly question those involved in this issue, “question” or, perhaps, a “bit more.”

COOPERATION

I recommend we keep the usual political/racial/religious infighting going. We don’t want to die of boredom, do we?

However, be very prepared to deal with “some” adverse circumstances. Toward that end, be prepared to live and act like an actual human being, in cooperation with family, friends and neighbors.

Quietly advise others of the prudence of simple preparations not unlike those we all learned about from Civil Defense during the 1950s and 60s.

Please, do not attempt to organize or arm for insurrection. In reality, there is no force, police, DHS, FEMA or military that would accept commands detrimental to Americans. However, I do not entirely rule out that we have some seriously misguided and irresponsible leaders out there.

This information is given informally and is not intended to be expanded on or dwelled upon.

Many of you will see pieces fit together and will now have more tools to use toward understanding.

Our best case; things will be perfectly fine or even better than before.

Our worst case; there is no reason to discuss it. Suffice it to say, organizations exist that are capable to doing what can be done.

Feel free to disseminate this. I have no desire to do any radio or TV to discuss this if avoidable. It is likely to do more harm than good.

Expect to be inundated with crazy conspiracy stories. Someone has decided that a confused public is a “safe public.”

Short URL: http://www.veteranstoday.com/?p=273017

From the COMMENTS under the article:

Gordon Duff · Top Commenter
it is a frame from a video and obviously enhanced

by me

who simply cut it out of the raw video

stop looking for plots everywhere

the actual video showed something far nastier than the two small "items" I circled

find a copy of the video somewhere...and look at it yourself
Reply ·
· 9 hours ago

Jason Vega · Top Commenter
didnt bill cooper and von braun warn of a phoney alien invasion/meteor strike using haarp amd orbital weapons platforms? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaT2G4fMT4o
Reply · 2 ·
· 11 hours ago

Michael Butler · Humboldt State University
Perhaps our alien overlords are on their way. Regardless of what happens, I would like to see the playing field leveled so to speak.
Reply · 1 ·
· 12 hours ago

Gordon Duff · Top Commenter
funny you would mention that...

[Calz]

Interesting at the least.

Is there really science to predict where an asteroid/meteor will strike (or is that speculation about some form of guidance or another)? I have always found it odd the attention given to "area 3" (nuke in ocean aside).

Obviously the seemingly abrubt turnabout in the middle east policies are curious.

Always like Gordon Duff even if we need to sort out some level of deliberate disinfo. At least he is always honest about that aspect of his writing.

Thanks KE.

(Enki coming back with a little attitude anyone???) :nhl_checking:

[sheme]

I don't know the geography of the states perhaps area 3 is tsunami vulnerable are you closest to the Atlantic ocean perhaps if enough meteors fall in the Atlantic we may get wash out certainly on both sides UK Holland France Portugal Spain right up the Mediterranean sea- as has been said how can they know where the stuff will land? Unless they throw it? know whos got it to throw? Where it is going to come from and precisely when- but not how much?

What 'far sight' notes about these areas do we have?

[KiwiElf]

I think what threw me with this article was;

1) the reference to a possible asteroid strike(s), widely speculated in the last few weeks and as good as confirmed by NASA prior to the shutdown, and

2) Duff's reference to President Reagan's address to the UN, followed by his "I would lock me up", and "funny you would mention that" in response to two of the comments following - an alien threat/arrival (real or otherwise) and earthly events of late which may be connected, as a distraction?

3) a third possibility, "something" responsible for rapid & extreme climate change, which by all accounts is getting worse by the day, globally

:confused:

[Calz]

Someone posted a recent show from Dr. Deagle which had a couple interesting and related topics. One was a *deep space* CME that hit the earth.

The other was suggesting something similar to what Gordon is relating to meteor hits and he says the concentration of which would be along 40 north latitude.

Take that for what it's worth ... or not :noidea:



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64333-NutriMedical-Report-Dr-Deagle-CME-from-Deep-space--10-11-2013-Hour-3-


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[KiwiElf]

"Funny you mention that", Calz ;) - I'm reminded of the location of the mysterious red "X" which appeared on Google Earth, (if memory serves, to the West of Alaska thereabouts, in the ocean), many months ago and caused a great deal of speculation of a possible asteroid strike location during another meteor/asteroid flyby of the recent past ...

[Lifebringer]

Computer simulation says Nibiru over the Earth's orbits as it exits and shows the areas to be effected were, the northern US from Jersey throughout Seattle depending on how many times we turn in orbit and pass through it's debrie tale. This tail is huge, and it:wizard: could be months depending on how wide the asteroid tail is, and in the UK, tsunami's from meteor and asteroidal bombardment in the Atlantic. Coming in at perhaps over 86,000 mph, all I can say is duck for cover, Have some sort of plastic cover for rain and dampness on the ground and be prepared to keep someone on watch at all times in case dams rupture and flood the lowlands. Climb high to the mountains of WV and don't desturb anyone, while trying to survive. Mt people mind their own business if they don't feel you're a threat and they share, and you can share, and you'll get along fine, if you both realize, you may be the only other survivors when this is over, and the knowledge of how to rebuild, begin, clean up, is necessary for your children's future. Stay low peeps, walk carefully with God.

And always, always ask, is this the right way to go, be, or do.:wizard:

Not a fear porn portal, just a reality check and we all need to pray, our little piece of God's green sweet Mother Earth, has protection from the Creator during this time. Get right with God people. It's time to "be" for the good always now.
Not judgementally so, but understandingly so. Each in his own time to awaken from the sleep, should be your instinct button's first alert.

P.S. I've shrunk my posting screen and can't get it back and I've got a few aged visionary problems so, if there's a few mispells, forgive me.

[spiritguide]

Just remember the Boy Scout motto "Be prepared!". Gordon says it all, be human and remember to help each other regardless of the strife that comes our way. Think basic.

Peace!

[aranuk]

I found this from yesterday on VT in answer to some questions regarding Gordon Duff's article.

Gordon Duff
October 13, 2013 - 1:14 pm
As to “Ison,” I simply passed on what I was told to.
When something is my own opinion, I will say so.
If you have questions, please list them. I will pass them on and publish what answers I am given.
This was not written to be “all inclusive.” This is simply me passing on what I can from an official briefing. This article is only meant to be useful BUT not informative.
I apologize for that.

AND
Gordon Duff
October 13, 2013 - 4:49 pm
the only reason I wrote this is that I was warned not to
funny thing, if you really wanted me to do something, telling me I can’t is prettymuch how to get me to do it


Stan

[spiritguide]

Don't know if this is related but an Air National Guard base in southern Michigan is installing an air defense missile system. Heard this from a person that resides near the base. They stated that the missiles were being set up presently. Makes one wonder what a system of that nature is doing in the midwest?

[Bill Ryan]

(Quoting Gordon Duff, Veterans Today)

Expect to be inundated with crazy conspiracy stories. Someone has decided that a confused public is a “safe public.”



Amen to that! That was decided a very long time ago, probably at the end of the 1940s or early 1950s.

Ison is just a simple comet. It's an Elenin replay. Gordon saying this is part of the confusion. He doesn't know enough not to repeat what he's been "asked to mention"!

The apparent (and widely misunderstood) image anomalies are all normal parallax artifacts. I explained them here. (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62457-Is-Comet-Ison-Really-A-Comet&p=729147&viewfull=1#post729147) We had those with Elenin, too. Doesn't anyone remember the 'fleet of ships' accompanying Elenin?

And if anyone reading this is still skeptical, any spacefaring ETs out certainly there don't need to accompany (tag along behind) any orbital body. If they have advanced technology -- and they all do, or they'd not be out there -- they can travel absolutely anywhere they want to, at any time.

(Come on, guys! Be smart.)

A potential large meteor strike is different and unrelated. As I've explained here, (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57408-2013-s-reported-meteors-Hinky-explanations-weird-reports-still-of-space-based-conflicts.&p=740118&viewfull=1#post740118) if Earth is starting to run into more debris in space, it's going to be because of 'Planet X', not because of a three-mile wide iceball with a tiny gravitational field which was near Mars a couple of weeks ago and is still nowhere near us AT ALL. (The closest it will ever get to us is over 160 times the distance between the Earth and the Moon, and that's near the end of December.)

Other things that Gordon mentions we should pay more attention to. As I've said in a number of recent posts and threads, there's certainly something afoot (either planned or anticipated).

It's important to understand also that whatever is planned or anticipated may not come to pass. But as I've also advocated for quite some time now, basic preparedness is a really good idea. And those with a realistic option to leave the US may well be wise to do so.

Note also (and this is important): Gordon has gone on record before to say that 40% of what he states is false, and that he HAS to do this. See the short video below. To neglect this is to sidestep the logical paradox of the man who says: "I am lying."

Of course, this doesn't mean that Gordon is relaying false information now. But it doesn't help much!

Here's what he said a year ago (2 mins, important):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-ZY0R1HdQ

[KiwiElf]

The trick, is knowing which 60% is true, & which 40% isn't ;)

[spiritguide]

Upon following the links to the article, this video came up. Found it to be interesting to say the least. To me it indicates what some factions of black ops have done.

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Reading Gordon's article and then watching this video, it relates knowledge of a plan that was known thirty years ago that reads like a script in a sci-fi movie. Most of us have been part of this play out and it is not co-incidence, it is what has been happening. Next card alien invasion? The hoax continues...

Peace!

[SilentFeathers]

Note also (and this is important): Gordon has gone on record before to say that 40% of what he states is false, and that he HAS to do this. See the short video below. To neglect this is to sidestep the logical paradox of the man who says: "I am lying."

Of course, this doesn't mean that Gordon is relaying false information now. But it doesn't help much!

Here's what he said a year ago (2 mins, important):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-ZY0R1HdQ

IMO this DOES mean that Gordon is relaying false information, thus he himself is adding to the mass confusion that we are seeing escalating and blanketing the Earth right now.

This is a great example of why I started the other thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY) about member predictions and also stated in a post in that thread,


Especially if we limit ourselves to our own potential and power by "predicting" things based on our own observations, intuition, common sense and experience. Seeing things from within ourselves rather than from outside of ourselves.

I'm not saying to write off everything that Gordon says or ignore him, but I am saying that listening to him or people like him and relying on their info is not only confusing, but is also dangerous, especially trusting them more than trusting one's own self and intuition/inner-knowing. I feel strongly that with all the false info and confusion happening right now that we must trust ourselves more than any one else moving forward to make any sense out of anything and or to come to any sensible conclusions or realistic possibilities.

This is just how I feel about all of this, others may have a different opinion. (my 2 cents worth)

[heretogrow]

I am among those at 40 N longitude on the east coast.

[KiwiElf]

I think you got it - after all, 2/3's of the population are now switching to alternative media for their "news" (please refer to comment I just put on your Predictions thread, Silent Feathers ... Where does the mass belief now lie? :) Who's controlling who?

[Ron Mauer Sr]

Don't know if this is related but an Air National Guard base in southern Michigan is installing an air defense missile system. Heard this from a person that resides near the base. They stated that the missiles were being set up presently. Makes one wonder what a system of that nature is doing in the midwest?

Maybe they are concerned with Cessna pilots armed with box cutters? :focus:

[spiritguide]

Gordon writes in a cryptological manner. therefore he gives the key to read between the lines. Those with knowledge of the trade who frequent his site have the ability to analyse his communications properly.

cryptology, is a science concerned with data communication and storage in secure and usually secret form. It encompasses both cryptography and cryptanalysis.

The term cryptology is derived from the Greek kryptós (“hidden”) and lógos (“word”). Security obtains from legitimate users being able to transform information by virtue of a secret key or keys—i.e., information known only to them. The resulting cipher, although generally inscrutable and not forgeable without the secret key, can be decrypted by anyone knowing the key either to recover the hidden information or to authenticate the source.

Peace!

[Bill Ryan]

(Michael Butler · Humboldt State University)
Perhaps our alien overlords are on their way.

If so, they could be here at absolutely any time and place they chose to appear. That also includes 5 minutes from now or tomorrow morning, even if they were last (somehow) 'spotted' a zillion miles away.

They'd not be traveling by rocket ship! And certainly not accompanying any incoming comet or asteroid. (Why would they, when they can warp time and space to get here from a different star system?) A few moments thought should make it plain that that whole idea is nonsense.

:)




Is there really science to predict where an asteroid/meteor will strike?



In theory, yes. If a large object is accurately tracked, then if the date/time of intersection with the Earth's orbit is known, the Earth's rotation at that time will also be known. So its impact point could be predicted fairly accurately -- with due margins of error, etc.

Remember: whenever the Apollo capsules returned to Earth, there was always an aircraft carrier waiting right there on the spot, just a few miles away or less.

(Note that in terms of pure probability, it's 71% likely that any large incoming object would hit the ocean, not any land mass.)

[sheme]

I have heard that certain very large Intelligent Other World objects have the ability/effect when necessary of slowing natural astral bodies down- thus mitigating damage when fixed orbits occur and locations are as favorable as possible for the preservation of life. This may be the reason for companion objects.

[Kindred]

A piece that I strongly remember in Laura Knight-Jadczyk's channeling, revealed in her "The Wave" series of books, was that the entities she was in contact with suggested that 'They' were headed this way, but couldn't accurately predict their time of arrival, due to the fact that They were on a 'Wave', but when They arrived, WE would 'merge' with them.

Interesting Times INDEED...
(Personally, I don't feel this will be a 'bad thing' - just Extremely Unique and Transforming for Humanity)

In Unity, Peace and Love

[CD7]

The trick, is knowing which 60% is true, & which 40% isn't ;)



The 'trick' is connected to the heart I believe...

It is described as having multidimensional aspects that surpass space and time...so what better way to aid someone in navigating through the clutter! it could possibly be the tool to assist 100%

Theres so many TRICKS being played right now

[Ron Mauer Sr]

A piece that I strongly remember in Laura Knight-Jadczyk's channeling, revealed in her "The Wave" series of books, was that the entities she was in contact with suggested that 'They' were headed this way, but couldn't accurately predict their time of arrival, due to the fact that They were on a 'Wave', but when They arrived, WE would 'merge' with them.

Interesting Times INDEED...
(Personally, I don't feel this will be a 'bad thing' - just Extremely Unique and Transforming for Humanity)

In Unity, Peace and Love

"Merge" reminds me of the children's move titled the "Dark Crystal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgVPB5dpgg)". Nice ending.

[outerheaven]

Gordon writes in a cryptological manner. therefore he gives the key to read between the lines. Those with knowledge of the trade who frequent his site have the ability to analyse his communications properly.

You really think so? To me it reads like very thinly-veiled fear mongering. "Oh, I can't say what it really is, people would think it's just too insane and bizarre!" "Pst, funny you should mention alien overlords..." Duff isn't attempting to obscure what he's saying at all. For not being allowed to come out and say it, he's begging you to read between the lines and jump to the conclusion that the aliens are coming in to destroy us. Ridiculous.

But, I have to say, I think this is all just so very tragic. *Wink* I mean, it's taken the illuminati/cabal decades, centuries, maybe even thousands of years, to position themselves as the unquestioned lords of planet Earth. And just when they're about to succeed in their plot for a world takeover, those doggone aliens show up to threaten their very plans!

And they just so happen to also be riding along with a comet for some reason.

Excuse me for just a second, I'm having trouble buying that.

It's important for everyone to remember some statements made by our past presidents. Please recall the numerous times Reagan made reference to the world's powers uniting as one to fight off "an alien threat." If he had made a comment like that just once, I could maybe write it off -- but it's a statement he made in several speeches. The President is supposed to project this air of strength and superiority -- how often does an American President underscore our weaknesses and insecurities? Hint: only when they're fear mongering to get something they want.

Remember GHB's creepy "when we're successful -- and we will be! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g)" proclamation/warning about the NWO takeover. It's all part of the plan, folks.

Project Blue Beam used to sound ridiculous and unnecessary to me. Why fake an alien threat when you have nuclear bombs? Why not just attack the world's cities until people fall in line?

Well, because their job will be so much easier if the world's population willingly welcomed a NWO regime. The last thing they want is to put down an armed, world-wide uprising. A false flag by a religious fanatic, a lone-wolf or gun-nut wouldn't be nearly as effective at uniting the whole world. You gotta think big!

Not saying this is FOR-SURE Project Blue Beam. I don't know. But I wouldn't think it's a legitimate alien threat. One thing is for sure: all this noise, something big is being planned, regardless.

[Kindred]

"Merge" reminds me of the children's move titled the "Dark Crystal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzgVPB5dpgg)". Nice ending.

EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS!

In UNITY, Peace and Love

[SilentFeathers]

I think you got it - after all, 2/3's of the population are now switching to alternative media for their "news" (please refer to comment I just put on your Predictions thread, Silent Feathers ... Where does the mass belief now lie? :) Who's controlling who?

I posted this response in the other thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY&p=744323&viewfull=1#post744323), it probably is relevant to this thread also....


I believe what we are observing are things manifesting that we don't want to happen, that we would rather not see manifest in to the collective reality....things being created by some others with bad intentions and for sinister reasons or purposes.

Perhaps too many of us good folk's have just been too lazy, dumbed-down, or just simply not involved in this collective reality and let things get way to out of control by these select few with bad intentions.

While most of us, for the last few decades for sure, have been distracted and busy working and filling up homes and storages with junk, eating like pigs and watching way too much TV, the other side has been hard at work "creating"......creating an almost fool-proof way to take all the "stuff" away from us, and to physically and spiritually completely enslave us.

I reckon it's time for us to wake up and get involved "creating" ourselves.....obviously those in charge are not doing a very good job and are not including most of us in their future that "they" are creating and manifesting in this collective reality that we are also a part of.

[outerheaven]

Sorry -- one last thing I forgot to point out.

If you believe Duff's message, then the government becomes the "good guy" in this story. They're out there, along with the rest of the world's governments, working behind the scenes to save us all from this terrible calamity and possible alien threat.

Gee whiz, great news! They've been enslaving, attacking, lying, conspiring -- and so much more! -- against us for the past, well, history of man. But they've finally got their collective wits about them and they're now fighting for us!

DHS is great. FEMA is great! Militarization of the police force, also great. Sorry to confuse you, citizen, with all these strange events lately -- we had to make it seem like we were going to pull another one of our false flag stunts, because, you know, the real thing is on the way. All you need to know is: Aliens Bad. Trust us, guys -- go to sleep. We have your best interests at heart.

*Barf* Give me a break. Disinformation.

[c0rv0]

If you believe Duff's message, then the government becomes the "good guy" in this story. They're out there, along with the rest of the world's governments, working behind the scenes to save us all from this terrible calamity and possible alien threat.
In my book "Apocalisse Aliena" I present evidences of the fact that a plan exist to fight the Extra-dimensional Materialized Entities (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64121-Some-evidences-of-Human-disappearance-and-mutilations) (EME). Evidences of this are presented in the text with all references. The related series of events is called timeline 2 a.k.a "Anglosaxon Mission".
This don't means that the power-to-be is working in "our" best interest: they have in mind something extreme for an extreme situation.

As Bill said, the EME have technology for materializing at-will in any given time/space location. Nevertheless the messages they release stress the importance of two occurrences related to space bodies: the Warning and the Event.
the Warning is related to some space body that should cause a kind of electromagnetic phenomenon. This would cause a planetary NDE.
This could be a good reason for them to "take care" of a space body. I'm not saying that ISON is the one, I'm pointing out that in thier narrative a comet is supposed to deliver "the Warning".

[Kiforall]

The Gulf Stream has become “unstable.” There are “issues” tied to “correcting that.” There is controversy about this with the operative term, “controversy” being one of the understatements of all time.


This jumped out at me, is Mother Earth not correcting the gulf stream by washing mineral salts back into the sea by way of increased rain fall, or are our friends at the top manipulating catastrophic floods to do the same but under their control?

ROCKS-
Scientific evidence of great earth changes - periodic devastation over the past 13000 years. In particular, Meteor Showers accompanied by Great Comets seen in the sky. The dates of disaster as supported by science and discussed, are 10900 BC, 7640 BC, 3150 BC, 540 AD, 1345 AD. The evidence appears to support the citations from the ancients of great earth changes in such works as The Kolbrin, The Bible, Metamorphoses, The Timaeus, The Pistis Sophia that the earth does suffer at long range intervals great earth changes in the form of devastating meteor showers and other associated effects.
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[Calz]

Gordon writes in a cryptological manner. therefore he gives the key to read between the lines. Those with knowledge of the trade who frequent his site have the ability to analyse his communications properly.

You really think so? To me it reads like very thinly-veiled fear mongering. "Oh, I can't say what it really is, people would think it's just too insane and bizarre!" "Pst, funny you should mention alien overlords..." Duff isn't attempting to obscure what he's saying at all. For not being allowed to come out and say it, he's begging you to read between the lines and jump to the conclusion that the aliens are coming in to destroy us. Ridiculous.

But, I have to say, I think this is all just so very tragic. *Wink* I mean, it's taken the illuminati/cabal decades, centuries, maybe even thousands of years, to position themselves as the unquestioned lords of planet Earth. And just when they're about to succeed in their plot for a world takeover, those doggone aliens show up to threaten their very plans!

And they just so happen to also be riding along with a comet for some reason.

Excuse me for just a second, I'm having trouble buying that.

It's important for everyone to remember some statements made by our past presidents. Please recall the numerous times Reagan made reference to the world's powers uniting as one to fight off "an alien threat." If he had made a comment like that just once, I could maybe write it off -- but it's a statement he made in several speeches. The President is supposed to project this air of strength and superiority -- how often does an American President underscore our weaknesses and insecurities? Hint: only when they're fear mongering to get something they want.

Remember GHB's creepy "when we're successful -- and we will be! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc7i0wCFf8g)" proclamation/warning about the NWO takeover. It's all part of the plan, folks.

Project Blue Beam used to sound ridiculous and unnecessary to me. Why fake an alien threat when you have nuclear bombs? Why not just attack the world's cities until people fall in line?

Well, because their job will be so much easier if the world's population willingly welcomed a NWO regime. The last thing they want is to put down an armed, world-wide uprising. A false flag by a religious fanatic, a lone-wolf or gun-nut wouldn't be nearly as effective at uniting the whole world. You gotta think big!

Not saying this is FOR-SURE Project Blue Beam. I don't know. But I wouldn't think it's a legitimate alien threat. One thing is for sure: all this noise, something big is being planned, regardless.

Interesting post (and thank you for that).

My take was that Ison was thrown in as part of the "disinfo" (despite my, I thought, obvious joke about Enki earlier).

What portion is his perception of truth (as his take on what is passed to him from his sources)???

Who knows?

My belief is that Gordon Duff is acting on behalf of the public yet trying to cover his a$$ as best he can. For someone going so far down the rabbit hole he has good reason to. I could be wrong ... or not.

So riddle me this avalonians. If Sorcha's posts include roughly the same percentage of disinfo as Gordon's yet Gordon is *really* trying to be helpful to humanity ... then should we not pay attention and try to interpret what he is trying so hard to pass along??? Sorcha could actually give a much higher percentage of "truth" then deflect the source or blame whereas Gordon throws out a lot of disinfo but goes way down the rabbit hole to offer us something of vital importance if we only can recognize it.

Cryptology? If anyone here has the skills and wants to share then bring it.

Most would give it consideration as they would most all posts.

The asteroids prior to blue beam has always stuck out in my head (now that the "war on terrorism" is thankfully being recognized as the brutal fraud it has always been).

Does that mean "they" cannot skip straight to blue beam???

Hey ... do I sound like an illooneynaughty???

Nuclear bombs??? Hmmm. So who was it shutting down the nuke missiles all those times over the years. If not offworlders then would have to be the "breakaway society". To what end?


I do agree completely that the darker map has been laid out with great clarity for ... generations. Hard to deny.


What is less clear to me is "their" plans will come to fruition.


As Bill has suggested before ... he would not be here if the outcome was fixed ...


Don't mean to ramble. IMHO the baby should not be thrown out with the bathwater.

[outerheaven]

If you believe Duff's message, then the government becomes the "good guy" in this story. They're out there, along with the rest of the world's governments, working behind the scenes to save us all from this terrible calamity and possible alien threat.
In my book "Apocalisse Aliena" I present evidences of the fact that a plan exist to fight the Extra-dimensional Materialized Entities (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64121-Some-evidences-of-Human-disappearance-and-mutilations) (EME). Evidences of this are presented in the text with all references. The related series of events is called timeline 2 a.k.a "Anglosaxon Mission".
This don't means that the power-to-be is working in "our" best interest: they have in mind something extreme for an extreme situation.

As Bill said, the EME have technology for materializing at-will in any given time/space location. Nevertheless the messages they release stress the importance of two occurrences related to space bodies: the Warning and the Event.
the Warning is related to some space body that should cause a kind of electromagnetic phenomenon. This would cause a planetary NDE.
This could be a good reason for them to "take care" of a space body. I'm not saying that ISON is the one, I'm pointing out that in thier narrative a comet is supposed to deliver "the Warning".

Thanks. I could definitely be guilty of thinking in terms that are too black-or-white. You raise some good points.

A planetary NDE sounds quite interesting. From what I understand of NDE's effects on people, the end result could be quite positive for mankind, yes? I'll check out your links later -- off to run some errands now. Thanks again.

[Calz]

The Gulf Stream has become “unstable.” There are “issues” tied to “correcting that.” There is controversy about this with the operative term, “controversy” being one of the understatements of all time.


This jumped out at me, is Mother Earth not correcting the gulf stream by washing mineral salts back into the sea by way of increased rain fall, or are our friends at the top manipulating catastrophic floods to do the same but under their control?




Was that not offered as one of the possible ramifications from the gulf oil spill fiasco???

[Calz]

Sorry -- one last thing I forgot to point out.

If you believe Duff's message, then the government becomes the "good guy" in this story. They're out there, along with the rest of the world's governments, working behind the scenes to save us all from this terrible calamity and possible alien threat.

...

*Barf* Give me a break. Disinformation.


I *do* believe that there is a *tremendous* amount of "need to know" compartmentalization.

If something that threatened the planet, humanity or even the power structure ... I have *zero* doubt very few would be privy.

... and I don't feel *everyone* in the rank and file of all the agencies are the same flavor of psychopaths as their "masters" hope them to be.

Wishful thinking?

Perhaps.

[Kiforall]

The Gulf Stream has become “unstable.” There are “issues” tied to “correcting that.” There is controversy about this with the operative term, “controversy” being one of the understatements of all time.


This jumped out at me, is Mother Earth not correcting the gulf stream by washing mineral salts back into the sea by way of increased rain fall, or are our friends at the top manipulating catastrophic floods to do the same but under their control?




Was that not offered as one of the possible ramifications from the gulf oil spill fiasco???

I have heard that the Gulf oil spill plus corexit helped to de-stabilize the gulf stream, I was talking more about them now trying to restart it by creating an influx of salt.
Geo engineering-> increased rainfall-> large scale flooding-> large amount of mineral salts being deposited back into the sea.

Duff talks about a controversial 'correction' of the gulf stream, do you mean the oil spill was done to correct it?

[Calz]

do you mean the oil spill was done to correct it?



Nope.

Just going by memory would have to search for links ... but there was a lot of suggestion that the oil spill itself could disrupt the gulf stream.

I followed that story very closely every day.

[spiritguide]

Gordon stated in the article...


Our worst case; there is no reason to discuss it. Suffice it to say, organizations exist that are capable to doing what can be done.

Feel free to disseminate this. I have no desire to do any radio or TV to discuss this if avoidable. It is likely to do more harm than good.

Expect to be inundated with crazy conspiracy stories. Someone has decided that a confused public is a “safe public.”
Just take or discard any of the article. Shooting the messenger helps no one.

[c0rv0]

A planetary NDE sounds quite interesting. From what I understand of NDE's effects on people, the end result could be quite positive for mankind, yes?
the EME's idea is that we will see the "god judgment" during the experience. This should cause a return of the people to religion. Interesting enough they also say that scientists will deny the "divinity" of the phenomenon attributing it to natural causes.

[KiwiElf]

Video referenced by GD might be this one... (altho I have no idea what I'm looking at and it's considered to be a fake?) - In which case, the two "items" he circled are the left two of either of the four tracking (square) frames, not the objects themselves... ;)

EDIT: ie freeze frame at approx 02:01 near the end of the video

dM6L0Gg-p9I

[sigma6]

Note also (and this is important): Gordon has gone on record before to say that 40% of what he states is false, and that he HAS to do this. See the short video below. To neglect this is to sidestep the logical paradox of the man who says: "I am lying."

Of course, this doesn't mean that Gordon is relaying false information now. But it doesn't help much!

Here's what he said a year ago (2 mins, important):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m-ZY0R1HdQ

IMO this DOES mean that Gordon is relaying false information, thus he himself is adding to the mass confusion that we are seeing escalating and blanketing the Earth right now.

This is a great example of why I started the other thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64210-Member-Predictions-for-2014-and-Beyond-Intuition-Common-Sense-and-Research-Trends-Predictions-ONLY) about member predictions and also stated in a post in that thread,


Especially if we limit ourselves to our own potential and power by "predicting" things based on our own observations, intuition, common sense and experience. Seeing things from within ourselves rather than from outside of ourselves.

I'm not saying to write off everything that Gordon says or ignore him, but I am saying that listening to him or people like him and relying on their info is not only confusing, but is also dangerous, especially trusting them more than trusting one's own self and intuition/inner-knowing. I feel strongly that with all the false info and confusion happening right now that we must trust ourselves more than any one else moving forward to make any sense out of anything and or to come to any sensible conclusions or realistic possibilities.

This is just how I feel about all of this, others may have a different opinion. (my 2 cents worth)

for what it's worth, I'd say this isn't one of the 'false ones', for one simple reason, he isn't giving us anything concrete... this would have to be considered one of those reports that needs to be "deciphered logically" ... he is alerting us... it is something "fantastic" (by definition) giving us some frame of reference (asteroids?) and whatever else others can tease out... so there is no reason to think this is a 'false' article, because other then that, for all practical intents and purposes there isn't that much more then that, that he is asking us to accept here... albeit, the asteroid thing is really throwing me... I find that hard to take "literally"... (??) i.e. for probabilistic reasons, and especially without a peep from Hoagland? (lol)




But, I have to say, I think this is all just so very tragic. *Wink* I mean, it's taken the illuminati/cabal decades, centuries, maybe even thousands of years, to position themselves as the unquestioned lords of planet Earth. And just when they're about to succeed in their plot for a world takeover, those doggone aliens show up to threaten their very plans!

That is what all the prophecies have foretold... if you believe that good and bad ETs have been 'influencing' Earth for the last several thousands of years... then yes that is exactly what I think is going to happen, (despite all my ranting..) Good shall overcome evil, is the nature of universe, fundamental universal maxim, consistent with ultimate source... (lest we be tempted to forget...)

[Kindred]

duplication of video...

[outerheaven]

That is what all the prophecies have foretold... if you believe that good and bad ETs have been 'influencing' Earth for the last several thousands of years... then yes that is exactly what I think is going to happen, (despite all my ranting..) Good shall overcome evil, is the nature of universe, fundamental universal maxim, consistent with ultimate source... (lest we be tempted to forget...)

I laughed when I read this: good point, sir. I overlooked that one, huh?

I guess I just found it preposterous that the government is working overtime right now to help protect us. Whether or not there's ETs with comet ISON, I'm pretty sure the PTW don't care about us one way or the other.

But, your point is appreciated! That would certainly be the best case scenario, eh!

[mosquito]

I am among those at 40 N longitude on the east coast.

No you aren't, you're at 40 degrees North LATITUDE

.... as is Beijing, a city of 11.5 million people

[RunningDeer]

Click here to find your latitude and longitude (http://www.satsig.net/maps/lat-long-finder.htm).

Explanation of Latitude and Longitude (http://www.satsig.net/lat_long.htm)


Beijing

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/beijing_zpsc555e6a8.png

Maryland

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Maryland_zps1586f71d.png

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/longitude_zps1df06ef6.png



I am among those at 40 N longitude on the east coast.

[heretogrow]

Thanks Mariposafe ! I realized that today and thought a few times I should go back and correct but never made it. Actually I am 39 degrees latitude but to be most honest I have spent the day soul searching and have had to come to terms that I have exhausted all of my resources and if this really happens I will have to be ok with giving up the body and be welcoming to move on from this earthly existence. You are really smart though. I did not even think that anyone would notice my mis-post!

Much love,
Julia

[sigma6]

Corvo,

I am curious do you see these EME as being superior to man in intellect? do you think mankind (illuminati?) could actually effect a successful attack on such beings?

[heretogrow]

Paula, I just noticed that you posted here in response to my mis-post as well. I am not worried for me but I have a wonderful nine year old daughter that dreams of someday becoming a mother and loving someone as much as I love her. I have two wonderful sons but I know in my heart of hearts they will survive. If something happens on this latitude I am asking you to seek out my daughter, and make sure that she survives. I am asking this because time and time again you have shown your heart. I want you to know that this is the most precious gift I could ever bestow on anyone. But I will continue to hope, pray that none of this happens and that I continue to be her mother. I asked a close friend today to watch over her and raise her in my absence, yet I cannot think of a better mother than you!

[sigma6]

That is what all the prophecies have foretold... if you believe that good and bad ETs have been 'influencing' Earth for the last several thousands of years... then yes that is exactly what I think is going to happen, (despite all my ranting..) Good shall overcome evil, is the nature of universe, fundamental universal maxim, consistent with ultimate source... (lest we be tempted to forget...)

I laughed when I read this: good point, sir. I overlooked that one, huh?

I guess I just found it preposterous that the government is working overtime right now to help protect us. Whether or not there's ETs with comet ISON, I'm pretty sure the PTW don't care about us one way or the other.

But, your point is appreciated! That would certainly be the best case scenario, eh!

thanks for your response heaven, and yes, there are many different perspectives, and millions could still die in the short term time window, before we see any portended 'salvation', I don't have any illusions either. It does seem that before we move into this foretold "higher energy" phase of space in the great cycle... we could still be looking at time windows of 10, 20, 50 years or more, each cycle is 2100 years after all... and that may be part of their plan, after all a part of the interpretation is some kind of judgement, or culling, and karma has to play it's part...

I agree the government is not going to save us... and the immediate interim is unpredictable...

[ROMANWKT]

An outlook to this, by Kerry Cassidy





According to more than one source, Comet Ison is actually a group of craft... coined an "interstellar armada" by one party, a phrase I think nails it nicely. In Gordon Duff's recent article entitled, WHAT CAN BE TOLD, he alludes to ISON and a number of what he calls "big rocks" headed our way.

According to Duff there is a temporary alliance taking place between normally antagonistic governments on Earth to meet this new challenge ie. rocks that are headed directly toward us to prevent an impending collision using "nukes" and other hopefully more advanced methods. Note: whether the so-called big rocks or asteroids are headed here as part of the "Armada" or whether they are being steered here (like billiard balls) and can therefore be redirected away or in a more sinister scenario, they are being in essence "shot" in our direction is not clear.

Either way, according to my source, we, that is, the secret space program and more conventional global space/military is attempting to deal with this impending threat.

For some reason, in a seemingly unrelated statement, not explained by Gordon, both stated as a reality yet denied at the same time in order presumably to disavow himself of any disclosure of classified data, Gordan writes:

"WEATHER

There was an earthquake off the US East Coast a short time ago. I am unable to confirm that it was caused by a nuclear weapon. I am also unable to NOT CONFIRM it was caused by a nuclear weapon and I am in that loop." - Gordon Duff, Veterans Today

Now one would have to ask, why this circuitous statement follows comments about ISON and the Big Rocks headed this way.

On that note I have been told by more than one source that ever since the Gulf Oil Spill (that was not per se an oil spill so much as a cover event for a much more diabolical event having to do with Black Nano Self Aware Oil-like substance becoming activated within fissures of the sea bed--see the Falklands War/Death of 25 Marconi scientists and the Project Camelot roundtable and radio show interview with David Griffin for more info on this)... At any rate, the northern Gulf Stream was interrupted by these goings on and the result was it has virtually stopped (also see many Dr. Bill Deagle radio shows on this from a year or two ago)... Apparently the U.S. and Europe are fighting over directing this Gulf Stream so that one or the other doesn't end up with what could be termed a mini-ice age. The word is that the nuke in other words mentioned by Gordon above would have been part of the project to restart the Stream and redirect it... to favor the Northern U.S. vs. Europe. However, my source states what they are really working on is restarting the whole thing so neither sides of the globe suffer any such drastic cooling.

But none of the above explains why this information follows the ISON disclosure. Other than as a possible part of what appears to be a sort of laundry list of relevant crucial information Gordon is tasked with releasing to the public.

Gordon also writes:

"....keeping damaging and insane speculation out of the press has led to a restructuring of our military, shutting down NASA and some of the FEMA activities.."--Gordon Duff, Veterans Today

Now why would an effort to shut down any info inadvertantly going to the Press, be the reason for "restructuring of our military"?? Surely one doesn't fire a number of generals simply because you can't stop them from talking? Presumably, one doesn't reach the level of general by not following orders. So given this statement, we learn that they are "restructuring our military"... and interesting exercise which raises a number of questions such as who are "they" and why all of a sudden is there a need to "restructure" the U.S. military. What is the real reason for the recent firing of generals and need to suddenly restructure. Note: if you do a google search you will see that there have been for the past 2 years a number of purges of generals and other military by the Obama White House.

Speculation ranges from likely potential coups to cover ups of operations such as Benghazi... Not being on board with the administrations playbook can certainly be detrimental to the job outlook for any general no doubt. But seriously, what is going on here? Does the government really shut down NASA and suspend FEMA projects simply because of potential press leaks? Doubtful.

Or is it simply that Gordon got carried away and didn't write the sentence very well perhaps because his information at that point was tapped out or inadmissable to the public? Whatever. The point here is that we get the gist... being that the MILITARY is being RESTRUCTURED... and again coming as part of the release of info surrounding the incoming threat from BIG ROCKS and the INTERSTELLAR ARMADA headed this way one would be inclined to put two and two together and get... That the incoming Armada is NOT a friendly one, and that they may be shooting some volleys our way to:

1. Test our resolve (aka our defense capability) to see in advance what they are dealing with :-)

2. To put us on alert that they uh, mean business and are taking charge.

3. To wreak havoc on Earth in order to smoothly sail into port or sail by.

4. To cause a distraction while they conduct their meetings/operations in the meantime.

5. All of the above

6. None of the above, and they are simply 'big rocks" headed our way as part of the debris field we are entering and/or they were recently displaced by the super wave and suddenly propelled in our direction.

And so on. Worth contemplating and investigating.

Why Gordon would "lock himself up" if he actually told the real truth is tantalizing in the truly dire nature of what such a statement portends especially after the disclosure that is made beyond that. Presumably, the state of the incoming armada is rather more diabolical, than even he permits himself to hint.... More food for thought.

What I find amusing (albeit in a twisted sort of way) is how the new agers on the web refer to the "Armada" as benevolent and coming to make contact in the friendliest of ways.

So which is it? Something so sinister and diabolical that we can only imagine ala BATTLESTAR GALACTICA? Or friendly furry little space aliens or handsome blond nordic looking space brothers and sisters coming to greet us and welcome us into the galactic family?

Seriously. It's a great time to be alive.

[Christine]

Hi sigma6,

What an interesting question and it begs for an answer. I don't know what c0rv0 will say but I do have my own opinion that I would like to share.

A small background to let you know why I feel somewhat qualified to share my experiences. I am not a researcher in classical terms, however I have encountered numerous of these EMEs (Extra-dimensional Materialized Entities). It is actually coincidental (for myself) to find c0rv0's interviews and summations at this particular time. So quickly here not to take up too much time with my personal story. For several years running I was heavily attacked astrally and spiritually. In trying to recover from this and with the enormous help of some very capable good people I learned how to deal with some of these entities... the processing allowed me to confront and see who and what I was dealing with. The most effective way I found of actually dealing with dark (Archon type) beings was to actually free them from their lower participation in the game. Not attacking them at all. Something in me from the most deep accesses of my BEing knows there is no winning if we do not come at it from a perspective of the Highest Freedom for all.

The reason I write this here is because I only just recently became aware of the fact that some of those I encountered are extra dimensional or hyper dimensional, by this I refer to those who are capable of bending time and space so they are hidden to even some of the most sighted of us. This has made them harder to detect but once you realize how they "hide" in these dimensions you can start dealing with them. There are no superior beings really... this is a fallacy that we have been sold. While there are those who have developed a large intellectual data base they have always lacked something... that very thing that makes us so powerful. And that is the force that resides/ emanates in the heart. It is key to understanding how we can in fact change the outcome on planet earth.

For the most part a entity that is attached to the manipulating/ vampiring game will flee in the face of pure love (energy without an agenda) or will be changed if a sliver of Light Consciousness is injected. This works in even the most highly developed intellects and in the darkest of places. For the Truth is irrefutable and sane.




Corvo,

I am curious do you see these EME as being superior to man in intellect? do you think mankind (illuminati?) could actually effect a successful attack on such beings?

[778 neighbour of some guy]

For the most part a entity that is attached to the manipulating/ vampiring game will flee in the face of pure love (energy without an agenda) or will be changed if a sliver of Light Consciousness is injected

So a Bright Light vaccination program eh, that should scare the culling H out them, I can clearly see their objection to that program, as I can see ours to our vaccination programs btw;)

[c0rv0]

I am curious do you see these EME as being superior to man in intellect?
The EME are being that can traverse dimensions, they have a technology that manipulate what we define "soul", they deceive us from millennia now. Are they "superior"? At least they are convinced they are. Is our job to show them that they are wrong.


do you think mankind (illuminati?) could actually effect a successful attack on such beings?
this is an fundamental question and I intent to open a dedicated thread to present related evidences. For now I can say that the Breakaway Civilization was created with the precise intent to accomplish this task or at least survive at any cost if is impossible to win.
The principal issue with "the plan" is that they missed the nature of the conflict:
their idea of ​​war is to win by having the most big guns.
Using a metaphor they decided to use the One Ring versus Sauron, so they have become another version of the Dark Lord.
The EMEs on the other hand are followers of Sun Tzu:

All warfare is based on deception.
[...]
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.

[grannyfranny100]

X Files reruns are available on Hulu.

[Christine]

This made me laugh, yes I know this is true... it does scare them, as they see "us winning" as their own death. However and this is the big however, once seen in the LIGHT even they realize that they have been the victims of their own demise. Win - win is possible.



For the most part a entity that is attached to the manipulating/ vampiring game will flee in the face of pure love (energy without an agenda) or will be changed if a sliver of Light Consciousness is injected

So a Bright Light vaccination program eh, that should scare the culling H out them, I can clearly see their objection to that program, as I can see ours to our vaccination programs btw;)

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Chinese ISON images from the 5th of oktober ( that's what the vid title says)

cVRpu-qfF7U

[778 neighbour of some guy]

This made me laugh, yes I know this is true... it does scare them, as they see "us winning" as their own death. However and this is the big however, once seen in the LIGHT even they realize that they have been the victims of their own demise. Win - win is possible.



For the most part a entity that is attached to the manipulating/ vampiring game will flee in the face of pure love (energy without an agenda) or will be changed if a sliver of Light Consciousness is injected

So a Bright Light vaccination program eh, that should scare the culling H out them, I can clearly see their objection to that program, as I can see ours to our vaccination programs btw;)

Well we better keep this secret well hidden between us humans then, if the chickens, cows and pigs find out we will all become vegetarians in no time, poor broccoli's, they're totally screwed and have no clue whatsoever of the carnage coming their way;).

How bout air? Air still good besides the pollution? Otherwise we are going to have a bunch of pretty pissed of breatharians on our hand here, nudge nudge wink wink, know what I mean, know what I mean?

[Flash]

I do not understand how anything else coming from space would be big bad against human guys when we have been, it seems, under the ownership of <Dracos for very long, and that those same Dracos do not care about us, the only thing they want is their source of food intact. They want to keep their farm intact and use its bull to fight their wars. Period.

So tell me why anything else would be necessarily detrimental to humans. May be this is yet again another Draco's deception.

[CD7]

The EMEs on the other hand are followers of Sun Tzu:

Quote All warfare is based on deception.
[...]
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting


Is there any evidence to suggest that these eme's are illusions? Man playing tricks on man? To use another metaphor--like the Wizard of Oz---the superior being in Oz was nothing other then a man behind a curtain? If this was already brought up my apologies...



PS Also I have not seen or read any descriptions of the eme's?...how big, what are they wearing in detail, colors?

[KiwiElf]

The EMEs on the other hand are followers of Sun Tzu:

Quote All warfare is based on deception.
[...]
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting


Is there any evidence to suggest that these eme's are illusions? Man playing tricks on man? To use another metaphor--like the Wizard of Oz---the superior being in Oz was nothing other then a man behind a curtain? If this was already brought up my apologies...



PS Also I have not seen or read any descriptions of the eme's?...how big, what are they wearing in detail, colors?

Hi CD7 - this document may help answer your questions - it's the basis of the series "Unsealed Alien files" and you can download it directly by right-clicking the attached link:

"Blue Planet Project"

http://www.ivantic.net/Ostale_knjiige/BluePlanetProject.pdf


This document is the alleged result of the actions of one or more scientists creating a covert, unauthorized notebook documenting their involvement with an Above Top Secret government program. Government publications and information obtained by the use of public tax monies cannot be subject to copyright. This document is released into the public domain for all citizens of the United States of America.

Recommended reading for all Avalonians, Blue Planet Project summarises, illustrates and describes most of the "allegedly" known alien races on, or interacting with, Earth at the time of writing (1990's). Similar information can be obtained from MATRIX II by Valdamar Valerian, downloadable here from Avalon in the "Interesting Free Books in PDF" thread.

(Interesting is the amoeba-like creature which may be the alien threat that the US, Russia & China were "secretly" at war with in the Pacific Ocean last year, as alleged by Gordon Duff)

[RunningDeer]

Paula, I just noticed that you posted here in response to my mis-post as well. I am not worried for me but I have a wonderful nine year old daughter that dreams of someday becoming a mother and loving someone as much as I love her. I have two wonderful sons but I know in my heart of hearts they will survive. If something happens on this latitude I am asking you to seek out my daughter, and make sure that she survives. I am asking this because time and time again you have shown your heart. I want you to know that this is the most precious gift I could ever bestow on anyone. But I will continue to hope, pray that none of this happens and that I continue to be her mother. I asked a close friend today to watch over her and raise her in my absence, yet I cannot think of a better mother than you!

Dearest Julia,

Wiping sobbing tears away. Nothing has ever come close to what you’ve asked. I am honored. I’m officially a Grand Auntie for your daughter. But also know that I see you raising my Grand Niece and she’s in full support for you... for a long, long time to come.

I’m sorry I missed your post. I’m quickly scanning the thread because I’m mostly in my cave with quick peeks on the Avalonian roadways. It’s easy for me to get lost for hours if I don’t set boundaries.

Know that I’m sending out love and healing of the highest order. Like many of us, it's for All...You, my Grand Niece, your Sons, Everyone.

Rest. Salt baths. Lavender. Screw the latitude business! Get use to Grandmother title because you’ll be around for that Joy as well!

With deepest Love and Gratitude,
Grand Auntie Paula :hug:

[heretogrow]

Thanks would never be enough to say to you!

Much Love, Heart and Gratitude to you Auntie Paula. (That makes us sisters!)
Julia

PS- I am kind of speechless as seen above. I am sorry I cannot convey my emotions well but your generousity is beyond words. My heart just SWELLS with GRATITUDE for you dear Paula! Weeping is a good word here. Streams and streams of gratitude for a wonderful soul!

Love, Love Love to you!

[heretogrow]

I hope everyone who is feeling down today gets to read Paula's post! She has the power to touch and change lives with that huge heart!

You are an angel Paula!!!! Blessings to you!!!!!

[RunningDeer]

I hope everyone who is feeling down today gets to read Paula's post! She has the power to touch and change lives with that huge heart!

You are an angel Paula!!!! Blessings to you!!!!!

Thank you, Julia.

But she's also a turkey that leaves the toilet set up, has piles of clothes on her bedroom chair, applies the 5 second rule when she drops her chocolate chip cookie on the floor, and wears big pajama pants.

Heading back to cave now. :wave:


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/big_pajamas2.jpg

:focus:

:offtopic:

KiwiElf feel free to remove my posts.

[c0rv0]

Is there any evidence to suggest that these eme's are illusions? Man playing tricks on man? To use another metaphor--like the Wizard of Oz---the superior being in Oz was nothing other then a man behind a curtain? If this was already brought up my apologies...
The evidences point in the direction that the "EBE" (ET Biological Entities) are the puppets and the EME's the master.


Also I have not seen or read any descriptions of the eme's?...how big, what are they wearing in detail, colors?

The EME's can take any appearance, basically projecting an image in our mind. Moreover they can also create physical bodies and use them to interact with our universe.

This explain the huge diversity of reported forms
this is an Italian article (http://corvide.blogspot.ca/2010/01/il-circo-delle-assurdita.html), but is enough to look the pictures to understand the concept.

The classification of EME based on their physical aspect is misleading, part of their deception strategy. One of the original thesis presented in the book is that we are facing a single metamorphic race. Analyzing the evidence emerge that entities of different aspect are collaborating together during the same abductions. Abductees report that a defined hierarchy is evident near assigned roles. Additionally they can create and “possess” physical recipients. So I wonder if we can apply to them the tools that Charles Darwin used for classifying races. The physical aspect seems to reflect more a social function than a biological difference. For example, the Greys take the role of “workers, the Reptilians are “warriors”, the Mantis are “scientists”, the Nordic “priests” and so on. This distinction is also present in the tradition of many human cultures, where spiritual classes are associated to certain social functions. While in human cultures we use clothings for distinguish the roles I think that an entire body could much more efficient. Bodies are “containers” for them.

[KiwiElf]

Julia and Paula - thank you for cheering up this sombre thread. You go girl! (Aunty Paula is awesome ;))

[sigma6]

I am curious do you see these EME as being superior to man in intellect?
The EME are being that can traverse dimensions, they have a technology that manipulate what we define "soul", they deceive us from millennia now. Are they "superior"? At least they are convinced they are. Is our job to show them that they are wrong.


do you think mankind (illuminati?) could actually effect a successful attack on such beings?
this is an fundamental question and I intent to open a dedicated thread to present related evidences. For now I can say that the Breakaway Civilization was created with the precise intent to accomplish this task or at least survive at any cost if is impossible to win.
The principal issue with "the plan" is that they missed the nature of the conflict:
their idea of ​​war is to win by having the most big guns.
Using a metaphor they decided to use the One Ring versus Sauron, so they have become another version of the Dark Lord.
The EMEs on the other hand are followers of Sun Tzu:

All warfare is based on deception.
[...]
The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.

Then it does sound like we have many advantages...
after all, Tzu was a human... it is not wise to try and beat someone at their own game...
yes... never underestimate the power of the human spirit

And thanks for sharing Christine ... I have always sensed a strong undercurrent of something in your posts, like a 'strong silent type', naturally understated... ; ) very interesting insights indeed... makes sense, all these descriptions definitely don't sound "all powerful" to me... and where there is deception there is a weakness somewhere... an achilles tendon... the two are intertwined... will keep this in mind...

[kirolak]

Where do the documents in the Blue Planet Project really originate? Certainly not with a native English speaker; I suspect a native Spanish speaker, specifically because of the words: "uses a beard" (Sorry, I don't have the page number to hand)I don't know any other language that would use this direct translation. The grammar in general is very poor, complete with malapropisms - which does not invalidate it, by the way. I am just intrigued - I particularly enjoyed the "pain staking" for painstaking". Does anyone have any more information?

[CD7]

Corvo: The EME's can take any appearance, basically projecting an image in our mind. Moreover they can also create physical bodies and use them to interact with our universe.

This explain the huge diversity of reported forms
this is an Italian article, but is enough to look the pictures to understand the concept.

The classification of EME based on their physical aspect is misleading, part of their deception strategy. One of the original thesis presented in the book is that we are facing a single metamorphic race.


Although there may be a huge diversity of reported forms...so far the images I see are very similar to what ive seen throughout the years which are illustrated in
[this is an Italian article]



Honestly when I see these images (which I know have minimal to do with their behavior) it speaks deception. Meaning that I honestly feel it is man providing the illusions....

Just the fact alone that there are human factions who are much MORE advanced technologically speaking then most of us are aware. Such knowledge and technology could easily deceive many people. Again the images I viewed in your article reminded me of "Wizard of Oz"


Heres one of the images in your article--
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6149f856e284.jpg




And heres a clip from the Wizard of Oz--
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Q-XSQpNE8FM/TCPe5hUiZoI/AAAAAAAABHY/XpAPj2JTkBM/s1600/Wizard-of-Oz-w24.jpg



I think a lot of the time my issue with this reality (aliens/eme's) is that HUMANS have seemed to be the biggest monster I have witnessed MY WHOLE LIFE-- to then add the drama of some other species I suppose is not warranted yet as Humankind is ground zero for now? There is no doubt we must gain independence and sovereignty uno number ONE as a foundation and then it seems that manipulation and deceit (of ANY species, even our own) would HAVE NO CHOICE but to fall by the wasteside ---it would be ignored---no life breathed into it

Also I have seen visions that have come from within that have had absolutely ==no reference here==

The magnificence could not be compared with anything here on earth---from the bottom of the horizon to the TOP of the sky they moved in geometric synchronicity--no words. Only vibration, spin, acceleration and beauty of which I have never seen here...so I suppose once someone has experienced something like this and then these eme/alien entities are discussed and shown---it appears extremely fake to me (dime store illusions that act like humans)---never really coming close to the awe and wonder of what seemed more REAL to me then anything else on this earth---


Appreciate your feedback :)

[kirolak]

Just an aside: If you darken the contrast & lighting in the fuzzy image that Gordon Duff posted, it seems to take on the shape of the head of a "devil", facing towards the two "open book" shapes . . . . or is it my imagination?

[Calz]

Just an aside: If you darken the contrast & lighting in the fuzzy image that Gordon Duff posted, it seems to take on the shape of the head of a "devil", facing towards the two "open book" shapes . . . . or is it my imagination?


Taking a response from Duff to a comment question ...



ChemBoy Looper

what the hell is in this picture?rocks or planes?

Reply



Gordon Duff · Top Commenter

comet

[c0rv0]

I understand your point of view, but , please, consider that the EME problem is MUCH older that you may imagine.
e.g. see "Wonders in the Sky: Unexplained Aerial Objects from Antiquity to Modern Times" , Jacques Vallee and Chris Aubeck for a historical overview starting from 1500 BCE.

We have also documentation that demonstrate how the phenomenon is not of human made
e.g. see http://www.collective-evolution.com/2012/10/20/12-government-documents-that-take-ufos-seriously/
by Rich Dolan.

Rich is the one that made a fundamental work demonstrating how the UFO is a matter of national security, that is the topic of this discussion, so if you have any doubt on this point please check out his books and conferences.

My contribution to the field relies on the work of those powerful authors, I understand that who is less familiar with this information feel a little bit lost.

My contribution focuses on expanding the discussion including fields like "religious apparition" and "Magic" examined under the magnifying glass of sciences like anthropology and political sciences.
In politics deception is a primary tool as you learn during the political science 101 by Niccoló Machiavelli:

Cunning and deceit will every time serve a man better than force to rise from a base condition to great fortune.
I think that this rule applies also to the matter concerning extra-dimensional politics (ontopolitic).
So in this sense you are correct: There is a puppeteer maneuvering behind the scenes and deceives us, but it is not a human.

[RunningDeer]

Original and lightened versions enlarged a tad.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Anomalies2_zpsbc53b62c.jpg

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Anomalies_zpsa699313d.jpg

[KiwiElf]

Where do the documents in the Blue Planet Project really originate? Certainly not with a native English speaker; I suspect a native Spanish speaker, specifically because of the words: "uses a beard" (Sorry, I don't have the page number to hand)I don't know any other language that would use this direct translation. The grammar in general is very poor, complete with malapropisms - which does not invalidate it, by the way. I am just intrigued - I particularly enjoyed the "pain staking" for painstaking". Does anyone have any more information?

"The Blue Planet Project document is believed to be the personal notes and scientific diary of a scientist who was contracted by the government over several years to visit all crash sites, interrogate captured Alien Life Forms and analyze all data gathered from that endeavor. He also wrote notes on or about any documents which he came in contact with, which in any way related directly or indirectly to the organization, structure or operation for the collection of such data.

This individual was discovered to have kept and maintained such personal notes (what you're reading are allegedly the transcript of those personal notes), and therefore was scheduled for termination. He narrowly escaped termination by the government and is currently in hiding out of this country.

We believe his involvement in these investigations span over a thirty-three (33) year period. He was soon discovered and immediately went into hiding in 1990."

The entire first episode of "Unsealed Alien Files" deals with it ;) Like the MATRIX books, it would be difficult to prove or disprove the information being conveyed. The entire series can be downloaded by torrent file and some are available on YouTube if you do a search. (these appear and are removed frequently - sooner or later you can get them) ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

do you mean the oil spill was done to correct it?



Nope.

Just going by memory would have to search for links ... but there was a lot of suggestion that the oil spill itself could distrupt the gulf stream.

I followed that story very closely every day.

it was almost like the ocean was alive and didn't want the cancer of the gulf to spread so the outlet slowed down and broke the stream spreading towards Europe into swirls

[KiwiElf]

Readers keep your eye on the "Comments" section under the article on the original VT page - Gordon is continuing to respond to some bloggers' questions/commentaries...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/10/13/what-can-be-told/

[kirolak]

Thanks - I did get all that info from the net, too; but I am still puzzled as to why a scientist in the employ of the USA would not have a better command of English? I just find it odd. . .

[ROMANWKT]

From Kerrys Camelot Blog


Addendum to my prior article re Interstellar Armada aka ISON:

Stew Webb has added the following note to the original Gordon Duff article regarding ISON and incoming 'rocks' detailed and commented on by me in my previous article "Interstellar Armada and Big Rocks".

Statement by Stew Webb:

.."TOP SECRET From Intel Sources not the author make this viral for all Humanity: What the Government will not tell you. We all have maybe a week maybe a month we have 2 large comets and 300 smaller rocks they are shooting them now with bombs, Russia also involved (Google Russia Rocket tests this week the cover story). Ison is made of platinum or gold they cannot break them up. If a semi-truck size hits yellow stone the volcano goes off. One of the 2 larger football field size is expected to hit London another to hit the Northern Hemisphere real soon. The one that hit Russia this year was the size of a refrigerator. For those Bible believers could this be in Revelation 8:11 (Wormwood) the two asteroids that destroy 1/3 of mankind?"-- Stew Webb, Veterans Today http://www.stewwebb.com/2013/10/13/what-can-be-told/

Michael Salla, from Exopolitics.org writes the following article outlining the controversy as to whether ISON is accompanied by UFOs or not...

http://www.examiner.com/article/is-comet-ison-accompanied-by-ufos

[kirolak]

Just the link to a follow on of the info in Blue Planet Project for anyone interested:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/pulsprojp.pdf

[kirolak]

PS This thread is also featuring on other forums; are those of us cross posting being tracked? :eek:

[KiwiElf]

Thanks - I did get all that info from the net, too; but I am still puzzled as to why a scientist in the employ of the USA would not have a better command of English? I just find it odd. . .

Well as an ex Uni tutor, (subjects advertising, marketing, personal selling & graphic design amongst others...), I can tell you that some of my brightest students had some of the poorest written English ever. (And check out some of the mis-spellings on popular News sites like Yahoo for instance). Personally, I'm more interested in the information especially when it's backed up by experienced investigators like Bill Birnes and others featured in the "Unsealed Alien Files" doco ;)

¤=[Post Update]=¤


PS This thread is also featuring on other forums; are those of us cross posting being tracked? :eek:

I have no idea... probably "YES" :) You can try this with your own Avatar and nickname: Type in "Kiwielf" to Google Images and you'll see what I mean: some of the pics are mine from here, or just threads from here that I may have commented on, or *gasp* just given my thanks to, and bingo... there's my entire history of Avalon participation, all on Google! (and other persons calling themselves the same nick). Scary, huh? :) :focus:

[778 neighbour of some guy]

From Kerrys Camelot Blog


Addendum to my prior article re Interstellar Armada aka ISON:

Stew Webb has added the following note to the original Gordon Duff article regarding ISON and incoming 'rocks' detailed and commented on by me in my previous article "Interstellar Armada and Big Rocks".

Statement by Stew Webb:

.."TOP SECRET From Intel Sources not the author make this viral for all Humanity: What the Government will not tell you. We all have maybe a week maybe a month we have 2 large comets and 300 smaller rocks they are shooting them now with bombs, Russia also involved (Google Russia Rocket tests this week the cover story). Ison is made of platinum or gold they cannot break them up. If a semi-truck size hits yellow stone the volcano goes off. One of the 2 larger football field size is expected to hit London another to hit the Northern Hemisphere real soon. The one that hit Russia this year was the size of a refrigerator. For those Bible believers could this be in Revelation 8:11 (Wormwood) the two asteroids that destroy 1/3 of mankind?"-- Stew Webb, Veterans Today http://www.stewwebb.com/2013/10/13/what-can-be-told/

Michael Salla, from Exopolitics.org writes the following article outlining the controversy as to whether ISON is accompanied by UFOs or not...

http://www.examiner.com/article/is-comet-ison-accompanied-by-ufos

Nice free advertisement for the emergency preparedness industry, I wonder who's invested in them, they will be really pleased with this months return:rolleyes:

[mountain_jim]

Ok, I googled Russia Rocket tests and this image from

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/10/11/russian_topol_missile_test_spotted_from_iss.html

was interesting

http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/10/11/iss_russianmissile2.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg




The International Space Station silently orbits the Earth, black of space above, blue of ocean below. An astronaut floats in the cupola, a dome of glass and steel that faces the planet underneath, smiling to himself as he takes one photo after another of our home world. What he doesn’t know is that a Russian missile is about to make his life very interesting.


Suddenly, a flash of light: Out of one eye, he catches motion, quickly turns, and to his astonishment sees an expanding cloud of white vapor in the far distance. He grabs a camera with a telephoto and starts snapping. What could this be? he thinks. A launch of some kind? He downloads the shot and innocently tweets it, not knowing what will happen next …

This is not a deleted scene from Gravity. By coincidence it reads very much like the story from the movie, but it’s real.

On Thursday, American astronaut Mike Hopkins tweeted that he saw something weird in the sky and posted a somewhat shaky image of it.* A few hours later Italian astronaut Luca Parmitano posted a sharper shot, the one shown above. The cloud of light is obvious; you can see the curve of the Earth below, a few stars in the sky, and the thin green line caused by airglow, a chemical process that causes air molecules to glow faintly at night.

I knew right away this phenomenon was from a rocket, possibly a fuel dump from a second stage, and went online for info. At first, I found no mention of a rocket launch at that time.

However, Edit Koczó on Twitter (UPDATE: She got her info via ISS101) posted a link to an article from the Russian Strategic Nuclear Forces website, a site that gives the public and politicians information on Russian weapons information. The article claimed a Topol missile had been launched at 13:39 UTC. Russia Today also has an article about it.

This matches. The missile has three stages (like the old Saturn V rockets that took humans to the Moon), and what the astronauts saw may have been a fuel dump from the second stage or the last of the fuel leaking away after the booster phase was complete. In space, the cloud would expand more or less freely, moving rapidly as it traveled along with the booster in its path. In the photo, you can see a slight streaking to the cloud, most likely due to motion. [UPDATE: Matthew Greene on Twitter told me the Topol missile uses solid fuel as propellent (he is correct), so it cannot have been a dump that the astronauts saw. I'm not sure now what caused the cloud, but it's clearly associated with the missile itself. I'll continue to investigate.]

To clinch this, Parmitano also tweeted a picture of the launch itself, or at least the vapor trail from the missile as it went up:



http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/10/11/iss_russianmissile_launch.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg



find myself conflicted; the image is lovely, but then, that’s an intercontinental ballistic missile you’re seeing there. Yikes. I’ll note that as far as I can tell, the arc of the missile was much lower than the orbit of the space station, and the astronauts were in no danger from this launch. [UPDATE (Oct. 16, 2013 at 16:30 UTC): My friend and space historian James Oberg has informed me that it's entirely possible the missile got as high or even higher than the ISS; earlier tests have apparently used trajectories that are steep, taking the missile up very high. Wow.]



Still, this isn’t the first time such a launch has caused a fracas. In 2009 a similar launch from Russian created quite a light show when it got into space. It was spinning, and spewed out fuel in a gigantic spiral, like a lawn sprinkler, which lit up and totally freaked people in Norway <snip>

[Robin]

And if anyone reading this is still skeptical, any spacefaring ETs out certainly there don't need to accompany (tag along behind) any orbital body. If they have advanced technology -- and they all do, or they'd not be out there -- they can travel absolutely anywhere they want to, at any time.

I'm definitely with you, however, I thought that I'd provide a somewhat sensical explanation as food for thought:


Perhaps advanced ET vehicles would travel in a formation to depict a Universal symbol? Perhaps a sign of peace?
Perhaps they purposely want to travel at a slow rate so people can have ample time to observe them, to discuss with one another about the arrival and intent of said ET craft, and to prepare accordingly?


No matter how crazy something sounds, I still think it is wise to keep an open mind to most information, regardless of past predicted events that have not come into fruition.

Even if a piece of information has a sliver of truth, it is worth a goldmine.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

And if anyone reading this is still skeptical, any spacefaring ETs out certainly there don't need to accompany (tag along behind) any orbital body. If they have advanced technology -- and they all do, or they'd not be out there -- they can travel absolutely anywhere they want to, at any time.

I suspect that not all spacefaring ETs have the same level of advanced technology available.
And I expect that among spacefaring ETs, there are many levels of consciousness, abilities and many agendas.

[RunningDeer]

Exclusion Filter
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Exclusion_zps2761e719.jpg

Black and White + enlarge
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/black_white_zpsee7b586c.jpg

Darken
http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/darken_zpsa2eb1ce1.jpg

[outerheaven]

Is that ... the Death Star?! :shocked:

[Calz]

Just in case this isn't already posted somewhere ... this is currently plastered on CNN home page:

Seems we were buzzed big time?

Happened last month but story just released yesterday.

____________________________


Giant Asteroid zips by Earth

It's about the size of 4 football fields

One of the most dangerous asteroids on record zipped close by Earth last month. Early reports said that there's a chance it could strike our planet in less than 20 years, prompting NASA to issue a reality check.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/18/tech/asteroid-near-pass/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[mountain_jim]

While still checking in on the comments for this Duff piece, I saw this link referred to:

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/coloradofloods14oct13.shtml

where a writer (see his other articles and supposed past here)

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/index.shtml

writes that the colorado floods adversely affected the underground bases in the area, with no evidence I can see other than 'intuition' and refers to positive 'higher dimensional beings' involved.

Interesting enough I thought I would throw it in here as this article and thread is quite speculative in nature.



The Sept. 2013 Colorado Floods May Have Served a Higher Purpose

By Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/coloradofloods14oct13.shtml
October 14, 2013

The Sept. 2013 Colorado Floods May Have Served a Higher Purpose by ZS Livingstone (Oct. 14, 2013)

The flooding (September 2013) of the Colorado deep underground military bases prevented the bombing of Syria. Some powerful higher dimensional beings intervened. Twelve inches of rain in four hours and a week of more heavy rain in an area known for its dryness is far beyond the abilities of the weather manipulators in the Pentagon. Also the Pentagon was not planning to flood its redoubt in the Rockies. Intuition states 92% was flooded, including most of the underground facilities under the Denver International Airport. Billions in damage and years to rebuild.

As this flood stopped World War III, it can be compared to the Kamikaze Winds which sank Kublai Khan's invasion fleets off the coast of Japan and the gales which sank half of the Spanish Armada off the coasts of England and Scotland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze_(typhoon)

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/spanish_armada.htm

The rumour is that underground bases extend from Cheyenne Mountain near Colorado Springs to Laramie Wyoming. The rains hit the mountains hardest west of Boulder, Colorado. Heavy earth moving equipment was seen moving towards the canyons above Boulder as the rains started. The man who saw the equipment said he had never seen such designs before and he is a machinist. Someone was worried.

I do not believe anyone was drowned underground. They had enough time to evacuate. The vertical column of water in the elevator shafts could be one to two miles deep. Access to the underground equipment would have to be by bathysphere. None of the electronics could have taken the pressure. It will take years to clean up.

It is likely the deep bases near Washington DC were damaged by the mysterious earthquake of two years ago. The politicians and generals do not have two of their fall back posts.

Canada lost its redoubt under Banff, Canmore and Kananaskis Alberta a month earlier with the Calgary floods. Again, unnaturally heavy rain fell in a small area in a short time. These bases are far smaller than Colorado's. Toronto later flooded as well.

With the Atlantic hurricane season a dud and the earthquake machines not working, the idiots in charge of mayhem are now trying to create an economic crisis. There will be another intervention of some nature. I have no idea what that intervention will be.

Zuerrnnovahh-Starr Livingstone

More from ZS Livingstone
http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/index.shtml

[KiwiElf]

Just in case this isn't already posted somewhere ... this is currently plastered on CNN home page:

Seems we were buzzed big time?

Happened last month but story just released yesterday.

____________________________


Giant Asteroid zips by Earth

It's about the size of 4 football fields

One of the most dangerous asteroids on record zipped close by Earth last month. Early reports said that there's a chance it could strike our planet in less than 20 years, prompting NASA to issue a reality check.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/18/tech/asteroid-near-pass/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Thanks for this Calz - it only leaves me wondering that if it had been a threat, would they have told us in advance? Remember the one that narrowly missed us several years ago, and clearly visible with a smoky tail as it skimmed through the atmosphere?(which is pretty durn close!!!) Both were "declared" after the fact :(

Great find, too Mountain Jim! Very interesting indeed! ;)

[KiwiElf]

Numerous situations which may be related are beginning to manifest; something in our near future is going down for sure! - stay tuned here:

http://www.infowars.com/

(... and remember to take it with that proverbial grain of salt ;))

Likewise, the Veterans Today site which is adding related articles (read between the lines ;)), almost daily.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/

[sheme]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/11/02/alien-agenda-ii-softkill/


Some more answers- dear oh dear oh dear?

[Daphne]

Video of what I have been told is Wormwood galaxy. Shot in my backyard this afternoon.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMUXdokI2qQ