This person needs to be found and stopped. (baby abuse / "baby yoga")

[Amysenthia]

This has to be one of the most gruesome videos that I have ever witnessed. Is this person a satanist or what?!!

Please post this far and wide this person needs to be identified and stopped from ever touching another child. I just hope that this baby has not died from Shaken Baby Syndrome yet.


"https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=232103480277818"

[Robin]

Hey Amysenthia, the link won't direct anywhere. Can you post a different link?

[Amysenthia]

Hey Amysenthia, the link won't direct anywhere. Can you post a different link?

I just saw that . I am trying to take this from Facebook to post the video and having a hard time. Still working on it.

[Amysenthia]

Can anyone help be embed a video??[COLOR="red"]
http://<iframe src="https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=232103480277818" width="176" height="144" frameborder="0"></iframe>

[Shamz]

here is the link ...
its old one though -- sickening to see how she treats her kid.... but at the same time who knows its not in their culture/belief to put little ones under extreme conditions right from the beginning to prepare them for future ... just saying...

I hated it personally

Click Here (https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=232103480277818" width="200" height="124")

[Amysenthia]

here is the link ...
its old one though -- sickening to see how she treats her kid.... but at the same time who knows its not in their culture/belief to put little ones under extreme conditions right from the beginning to prepare them for future ... just saying...

I hated it personally

Click Here (https://www.facebook.com/video/embed?video_id=232103480277818" width="200" height="124")

Thanks so much for the link.

Even if it is a cultural practice this can easily damage a child for life. My intuition tells me that this is someone who is babysitting this child and is treating the child this way. Look at the expensive furniture in the room in which this takes place. This just reeks "Diabolical to me".

Does anyone understand the Dialect of the person speaking?

[DeDukshyn]

Looks rather inappropriate to me, but I am also allowing for what Shamz said. Babies that young are rather weak and their shoulder joints could take injury from treatment like that in my opinion. I am trying to be fair about this, and if we still lived as "natural" humans, babies would have to endure much more physical stress than we ever allow these days, so they are likely tougher than we give them credit for, but still, with three kids of my own, this made me cringe.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Not for it, but it looked like 'conditioning' to me, most surprising the kid did not cry at all, that is going to be one tough flexible dude when he grows up, but yeah that certainly looked harsh.

[Vrilya]

I could'nt even watch the video for even a full minute, It so broke my heart to even see this happen.


Blessings and love Always,
Shelley

[sigma6]

it's not what it seems, there is a whole school of thought, it improves overall health, strength, lymphatic function, plus... but I still cringe when I see them flip the baby like they are twisting its arms... but obviously there is a methodology.... a specific way to train mothers how this is done... new born babes don't lie..

I think we are conditioned from watching too many Quentin Tarantino movies where all you have to do is grab someone's arm and it rips out like a jelly sandwich... I used to watch Dr's cutting out the sinews of dead corpses, they were using machine tools, and having a tough time of it... I think it is the ideal time to do this type of conditioning to the baby, they are at the most flexible, and could easily retain that through life theoretically, what a gift that would be!

[RunningDeer]

Some further information from two sources, cuz 5 seconds in action was too long for me to watch.


Controversial Baby Dynamics Yoga
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Published on Mar 1, 2012

Controversial Baby Dynamics Yoga



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Millions of people around the world were left stunned when a video of Lena Fokina doing 'baby yoga' broke on the internet. The 51-year-old Russian was filmed spinning and flipping babies above her head and behind her back in such an outlandish fashion that several websites banned the footage for glorifying what to many would be considered child abuse.

In fact, the moves were so shocking that most conceded they were being performed on a doll as no sane person would consider them acceptable. However, we tracked Lena down to a seminar called "Parenting the Deliberate Way" in Dahab, Egypt, where parents from across Europe were paying her to perform the same moves on their infants, some just a few months old. But Lena, who is a qualified PE teacher in her native Russia, insists the practice is totally safe and actually beneficial to children.



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Article Two:

Baby Yoga Video is Real and Real Scary, But Safe? (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20029037-10391704.html)

(CBS) Yes, the yoga baby video is real and really terrifying, at least to watch. But is it safe for baby?

If you haven't seen it yet, the video, which comes out of Russia, shows a woman tossing, twisting and spinning a baby in midair. She never lets go of the child's arm, but the images of a child being tossed around like that are pretty jarring to an American eye.

Some speculated the baby wasn't even real, but Nathan Thornburgh, a former Time magazine editor who blogs at Dadwagon, says he tracked both baby and baby swinger down for a chat.

The baby yoga guru, writes Thornburgh, is Lena Fokina, a 50-year-old Russian who lives in Egypt teaching yoga, free-diving and "dynastic gymnastics" (read baby yoga). The baby, he says, lives a few hours outside of Kiev, Ukraine, was only two weeks old when the video was shot, and is doing just fine two years later.

In fact, Fokina said baby yoga helps children have more mobility, freedom and independence and has been practiced in Russia for three decades. "They are early readers, singers, talkers, swimmers. You haven't seen anything like it anywhere!!" she told Thornburgh.

Want to hear what Fokina has to say about American babies, fat parents and trying this at home? Check out the full interview and more baby swinging pictures at Dadwagon.com.

[sigma6]

warning: fat american parents and cracked addicted single moms should not try this on your sickly food stamp fed, soy milk, fluoridated water nourished infants without any training! you are liable to lose your child to CAS... and or make them puke up the poison you have put in their bodies...

[Agape]

I feel like I should have never opened that link . This is offence to the name of Yoga, unless the lady calls her craziness yoga and enjoys her lost self-controls over the poor dears.
And yes, every paediatrician would tell you , never hold little baby by hands like this , it can result in permanent deformations to their joints.
Besides that, possibly the one in video was slightly retarded else it'd cry .

I've seen fathers 'exercising' with babies and they usually laughed but this is not an exercise .




P.S. I did not know you have an MK Ultra training cab here :doh:

[DeDukshyn]

...
Besides that, possibly the one in video was slightly retarded else it'd cry .

P.S. I did not know you have an MK Ultra training cab here :doh:

I guess both babies in both clips are retarded ... ;)

[Agape]

I feel like I should have never opened that link . This is offence to the name of Yoga, unless the lady calls her craziness yoga and enjoys her lost self-controls over the poor dears.
And yes, every paediatrician would tell you , never hold little baby by hands like this , it can result in permanent deformations to their joints.
Besides that, possibly the one in video was slightly retarded else it'd cry .

I've seen fathers 'exercising' with babies and they usually laughed but this is not an exercise .




P.S. I did not know you have an MK Ultra training cab here :doh:

I guess both babies in both clips are retarded ... ;)


I totally trust you ;)

[DeDukshyn]

... trim ...


I totally trust you ;)


Your implications, not mine. I used the sarcasm font ;)

[Agape]

Well even if they are retarded it can't accelerate their development but explains the crazy mothers instinct of trying to make it better .

:smash:

[bennycog]

I did not watch the video until i had read of why they do the technique. Thanx paula.

You can see that between doing "the baby yoga". Lena is actually pretty careful with the baby, delicate even. Until she got it in a new position..
It seems that only trained persons should do this..

Look at the chinese they use slapping to heal the body or to drive toxins out..

http://chiaweb.com/drug-free-health-alternetive-remedies/good-stuff-on-health/self-healing-therapy/pai-da-therapy/

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[Agape]

... trim ...


I totally trust you ;)


Your implications, not mine. I used the sarcasm font ;)

Means, I'm not going to see the other, weak stomach :thumb:

[Amysenthia]

I have been so disturbed all day after seeing this video. Anyone who would like to explain this away as "just cultural" so it makes it OK, please see another explanation why this is such a bad idea.

Even is the woman in this video is using this teaching as her reasoning for why she is doing what she is doing to the baby in the video, she needs to be stopped from ever repeating it again.

In the following video all of the serious complications from this practice are explained.




http://www.thedoctorstv.com/videolib/init/6483

[ghostrider]

Yeah they call it baby yoga but , I couldn't watch more than five or ten seconds of it, my wife showed it to me a week or so ago , it made me angry , and my feeling were the woman should be in jail ... I couldn't watch it all ... I just couldn't ...

[Gardener]

I can only imagine what trauma that practice is causing in the psyche never mind the physical which is disturbingly abusive. This is DIY MKultra.

[Flash]

well, I know some kids who will never want to go to a Fair and have "fun" is the swirling games, and they will never know why they do not like it.

If they still have an undamaged brain.

The kids are not crying because they are going into fright paralysis, like we do when we meet ETs.

This is a way to start splitting personnalities I think.

I hate to see she is making money with this. I hope she come to America or Canada and get arrested. She has damaged enough babies brains.

[Gardener]

Precisely Flash, anything pre-verbal has profound effect, from the minor 'complex' to total dissociation, or they will spend their life in total fear and panic and not have the slightest idea why.

well, I know some kids who will never want to go to a Fair and have "fun" is the swirling games, and they will never know why they do not like it...]

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I couldn't watch the video/click the link,
but am more than happy to take people's word for it,
that this was disturbing/frightening to see.

Things like that, i.e. the "nightmare babysitter",
drive too many moms to attempt the job alone.
I believe the world is indeed full of evil and don't need a reminder. :(

Thanks though for bringing it to our attention --
this nonsense reminds me of the "Re-birthing" craze some years ago,
where moms and the "therapist" were accidentally (or not) smothering grown kids in blankets.
And taking video of course. Always the damn video :(


p.s. people say that we've "progressed" as a culture, but to me it seems as if being connected with nature, i.e. the reality that things are fragile and can perish (farms and hunting etc), should reinforce the need for gentility in the home rather than "feed the psychopath". Not that I am an expert by any means.

[Ellisa]

This is very disturbing, but it is something that people do in some cultures. I had a friend who used to 'exercise' her babies by dangling them by their hands or upsidedown from their feet, and swinging them. She also used to toss them really high in the air and catch them very abruptly, and she used to put them in a 'walker' almost from birth. They also were subjected to massages and bone 'popping', and swimming as a baby. Her family was Russian and she herself had been brought up this way. I was terrified for the babies, but thought, as you do when you have your own kids, that this was an OK way to treat the children in her way of thinking. Her own family was very proud of these 'strong' grandchildren.

Later, in fact, one of the children developed serious epilepsy, and the other developed Krohne's disease. I do NOT suggest it had anything to do with her treatment of them-- But it makes you think.

My own kids were OK and happy-- they had the usual illnesses- and now have sweet children of their own whom they enjoy mildly spoiling, as I did them!

[sigma6]

I admit it makes me squeamish, but I think doing it in person is a completely different experience. The exercise is hugely beneficial to the health of the baby, it ultimately will strengthen their ligaments and muscles, any kind of jumping movement increases circulation especially the lymph glands. She said at first babies may even puke or burp a bit, but this also will increase their digestive ability. It is a very passive way for the baby to exercise actually and mom too. Mom gets the physical exercise and the baby, by simply resisting the inertia. is actually getting the most passive exercise benefit. I also think it is bonding. By the time they are 10 they should be ready to join the Russian space program (haha just kidding! )

This is really evidence of how out of touch we are. Main stream images of babies as made of cotton candy is not real. Babies have an automatic hand grip when they are born. Of course the evolutionist will make up some nonsense that it has no value because it had to do with something monkeys did millions of years ago blah blah.. Babys can be tossed in water at a certain age and just start swimming, know instinctively to hold their breath when under water.

Here's to Baby Power!!!

[Flash]

Sigma 6, I love your posts on being a free person, but here I truly think you are talking through your hat. In fact, the problem is not with the baby's body, but with the baby's brain. Baby's brain are very fragile because the veins are not yet sturdy and may brake anythime like bruising, when the brain hits the skulls. Every tribe people on this planet knows this.

Why otherwise would mother in different tribes, throughout the planet, carry their babies in a pouch on their back, all tighten up. Yes there is movement to which to baby participates when the mother is working, but those are rythmic movements with kind of a bumper to protect them, which it the soft mom's body.

Why do you hold baby's head when Young? Because you may easily brake their neck.

This is basic physic laws within a biological parameter.

HAve you heard about the shaken syndrome in babies? This does not mean they are made of cotton candie. And yes they have automatic hand grip, to protect themselves from falling and protect their brain.

Theres is stories of baby falling without apparent hurt, yet their brain is damage. Maybe a stay in a children hospital would show much of what I am saying. Even monkey babies hold to their mom while traveling on their back, they are not tossed in the air.

Why do all women instinctively feel this is not alright? I think this time WE ARE following our natural instincts.

Now, I remember very well some 30 years ago seeing a dad handling her daughter that way, she was about 8 months old. Now in her thirties, she hates him. I do not think it builds trust, but rather mistrust.

This is a completely different story when the kid is 3 or 4 or 5 years old. They love it to be tossed and do not throw up then.

ANd nothing to do with baby in water holding their breath. This is a natural environment they have been created in (the womb was filled with water) and it is a soft environment. They know what to do when back in it.

[conk]

The baby is certainly not enjoying the experience, so that is enough reason to stop. The physical risks are the worst though. Perhaps, perhaps, in the hands of an expert this could benefit the child in the manner sigma6 alludes to, but someone who has simply taken a class could do serious harm to the baby.

[sigma6]

trampoline jumping is hugely popular, because the it is gentle on the joints, but its the inertia shifts that still benefit the body, that is what the craze is all about, it's totally low impact. I don't think it's fair to judge by the first experience. It's about conditioning. That's like looking at fat, out of shape people who go to the gym for the first time. That's painful to watch too. But it's not about what they look or feel like on the first day.

[Flash]

trampoline jumping is hugely popular, because the it is gentle on the joints, but its the inertia shifts that still benefit the body, that is what the craze is all about, it's totally low impact. I don't think it's fair to judge by the first experience. It's about conditioning. That's like looking at fat, out of shape people who go to the gym for the first time. That's painful to watch too. But it's not about what they look or feel like on the first day.

LOL

What a comparison!!:rolleyes:

Sigma 5 (lost a sigma with theses posts :p) you are the prototype explaining why men should gestate and deliver babies too. Your "instinct" most probably would do a 180 degrees turn around.;)

[sigma6]

you underestimate the human potential my dear, but you are not alone, in fact I wouldn't doubt you are in a vast majority.

[shadowstalker]

Could someone plz tell me how we got from a stupid Baby exercise (albeit possibly highly damaging) to MK Ultra,
I get that what is going on is wrong, but how did some folks here just suddenly got straight to Mk Ultra.
Some one needs to back up this particular accusation with some true facts in this case for me...
How did we get from watching a total stranger to getting to know or strongly implie(?) that she is a MK Ultra Practitioner?
If one is going to ruin ones reputation at least one could do is use the facts in front of them..( To start with)
Please lets not go on a witch hunt, just because we are conspiracy theorist and so on.

And NO she should not be thrown in jail for child abuse.
She should be re-educated into learning something less harmful to help out her baby clients, lets stop judging please and not compare our own beliefs to that of someone else to such a degree that we feel superior in our so called knowledge. :gaah:

[Flash]

you underestimate the human potential my dear, but you are not alone, in fact I wouldn't doubt you are in a vast majority.

i would rather underestimate in this case than have a retarded child not able to use his brain. I do want his soul with all its potential to be fully integrated in a functioning body/brain. Each one its choice.

[sigma6]

you underestimate the human potential my dear, but you are not alone, in fact I wouldn't doubt you are in a vast majority.

i would rather underestimate in this case than have a retarded child not able to use his brain. I do want his soul with all its potential to be fully integrated in a functioning body/brain. Each one its choice.

Perhaps, if the mother dropped the baby on its head... but that wouldn't really count would it...

In any event, show me one such case. On the internet with millions of stories of all the terrible things that happen to children and babies, you should be able to find hundreds, see if you can find one. In this case the absence of evidence is resounding. The same applies to death by pot, or people suffering illness from drinking urine. The main stream mentality is certainly there. It's just the evidence that is so missing. Yet millions smoke pot, and many millions drink their own urine to rejuvenate their health. And I am sure there are many thousands of mothers who are conditioning there babies like this.

[Flash]

I am putting it here for Avalonians, for their own children as well as if they are ever witness to a shaken baby.

If you look at the pictures in the link you will see damaged brains.

It is very well known all over the world, most doctors have seen this in their practice at some given time. I personnally know at least 2 kids slightly retarded that were shaken babies, they will not have their full mind usage for the rest of their life, truly sad.

Your stance Sigma 6 is only one of making a stance. The research is very easy to do, type Google, shaken babies or shaken baby syndrome.

And this kind of stance is not funny, in view of the damage sustained by those powerless babies.

Telling there is not damage because the babies are just "well exercised" is showing a deep misunderstanding of biology and cell membranes and neurons build up as well as a deep lack of understanding of applied physics to a body. To a point of becoming dangerous.

In all consciousness, Sigma, do your research and search your soul. Do you want babies to continue being shaken? And I am not being arrogant here, I am extremely sad in fact. Very sad that anyone keeps not wanting to see and protect the smallest of his own specie. Very sad truly. The science is there.

The exact same thinking has lead to numerous head injuries to young athletes because they "are tough" and "it is the name of the game" and can be hit repeatedly on the head. Now, that we have imagery, we know the incurred damages and long term consequences for those athletes. But for years, big coaches would force them to play hard and hid the problems related to it, in fact, discard the injured if they could not play anymore. Ask my neighbor who is a sport medical expert, she is the one recuperation people once they are down.

We are not anymore into training super soldiers where anything goes, starting with babies. Super soldiers are a thing of the past for a civilisation that has to pass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaken_baby_syndrome


Shaken baby syndrome (SBS) is a triad of medical findings: subdural hematoma, retinal hemorrhage, and cerebral edema from which some doctors, consistent with current medical understanding, infer child abuse caused by intentional shaking. In a majority of cases there is no visible sign of external trauma.

SBS is often fatal and can cause severe brain damage, resulting in lifelong disability. Estimated death rates (mortality) among infants with SBS range from 15% to 38%; the median is 20%–25%. Up to half of deaths related to child abuse are reportedly due to shaken baby syndrome.[1][not in citation given] Nonfatal consequences of SBS include varying degrees of visual impairment (including blindness), motor impairment (e.g. cerebral palsy) and cognitive impairments.[citation needed]

[MargueriteBee]

Why did you feel compelled to pass on this negativity? Just askin'.

[Flash]

Why did you feel compelled to pass on this negativity? Just askin'.

whom are you adressing to? If it is me, you are pretty much mistaken. I just confront what is done to children and ask all adults to stop it, in their soul as well as behavior. Sorry if you felt it as negative, and please just read my link above.

This is not exercising baby, never ever is it about plain health, unless you want to remain in the same paradigms we have been in for centuries.

And I know people like sigma 6 do not want to remain in the same paradigms, just by the way he writes about our natural rights. I am asking to push it further.

And I sincerely have no bad feeling with Sigma, he is just in my views not as aware about these aspects of human beings as I am not much aware about the laws and unlaws on our rights. I call that pushing each other to get better in all aspects about human beings and their rights, lawful ones and biological ones.