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Tony
20th October 2013, 09:17
Dealing with negativity.

There are two aspects to this negativity: against ourselves, and against others.
We oscillate between openness and closedness - clarity and confusion.
Most of the time we are closed, and therefore we find fault with others:
that's why we are unenlightened!


There seems to be two of us in this mind-body setup: pure being, and a created,
obscuring personality. The very recognition of this obscuring personality frees us,
and we are no longer mind controlled!

Throughout history, demons are mentioned: are they real or not?
We attract both positive and negative energies. We...do...this. Just observe,
when finding fault, how it encourages others to do likewise.
The law of attraction works both ways, both on negative energies –
Demons/Mara/Archons, and positive energies – Enlightened Beings.

I asked my teacher, “What can I do about mara?” He reply was, “Remain in emptiness.”
I asked my teacher, “What can I do about death?” He reply was, “Remain in emptiness.”


In emptiness there is nothing to touch.
Inner peace is emptiness-clarity.
It includes everything and everyone
and is therefore compassionate.


Experiments were done at Berkeley University, showing how power and
wealth corrupts people, and how they maintain their corruption: “I deserve it.”
That's how demons work! If we wish to hit the wealthy and powerful,
we merely contribute to Demon/Archon/Mara activity.

It is in recognition that liberation is possible – negative energy loses its grip.
In the moment of seeing, awareness is self liberated.



Tony

Violet
20th October 2013, 09:28
Thanks Tony, now for those who are not so familiar with these teachings, is there a also practical manual?

I saw that vid too, here it is again :p:

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I must notice that a full moon has just stopped by and I know not why or how, but I - as others - must confirm that negativity is at its highest.

grapevine
20th October 2013, 12:13
At one level, negativity is based in superstition, that everything has to be paid for, and this is learned behaviour; we're brought up with it from babies. At some stage, if everything's going swimmingly well, then it stands to reason - and the general flow of life - that it's too good to last. This encompasses many races. A Chinese friend always talks about her son in the negative when I enquire about him and when I asked her why she whispered in my ear that if God knew how wonderful he really was he would take him for his own. :)

grapevine
20th October 2013, 12:29
Dealing with negativity.

There seems to be two of us in this mind-body setup: pure being, and a created,
obscuring personality. The very recognition of this obscuring personality frees us,
and we are no longer mind controlled!

Tony

I'm reading a very special book at the moment, Tony. It's "The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World" by Iain Mcgilchrist. One part which hit me straight away was that the two sides of the brain - the left and the right - are commonly thought to have different purposes, ie, the left side calculates maths and the right is creative, etc. However, the reality is that both sides do exactly the same thing but in different ways, which is why we can still function when part of our brain is missing or taken away. Another interesting fact is that the main purpose of the corpus collusum (which joins the right side and left side of the brain and conveys information from one side to the other) is to stop one side from interfering with the other. I just thought this might be the "created obscuring personality" in your post.

Separate to the above, I have done much research on demons and negative energy, but unfortunately although there is a lot of information out there I cannot seem to join the dots so that a true picture comes into focus . . . . but then again, I guess that's why I'm here - lol :)

Tony
20th October 2013, 12:59
Hello Linda

What you say is very interesting - thank you. It's the age-old conundrum of brain and mind…may be the brain is the hardware and the mind, the software. The software has the ability to control how the hardware is used (more or less).

From a spiritual point of view, we are merely pure awareness embodied in a human form. It is said that this came about because this pure being became attracted to an image of itself - maybe it became too excited about "being" - so from zero, it created one. This graven image became essence's focus, in the same way as looking into a mirror and believing the reflection to be us. Once this pure empty essence became attracted to itself and phenomena, judgement occurred and therefore we became a duality (and then a multiplicity). We became such complicated little beings ;)

It's as if there is a "knowingness" reading the words on this screen, and an intercessor translating what st being read. Positivity is the pure knowingness of just being. Negativity is ignoring that knowingness, and being distracted by outer phenomena. This is on a very subtle level. When this negativity goes further down the road, it turns into hatred, fear and aggression - and can end up in evil acts - but it can all be traced back to the misunderstanding of our true nature.

Best wishes
Tony

Tony
20th October 2013, 13:29
You can't find anything now!

When you see it - it's gone
When you taste it - it's gone
When you smell it - it's gone
When you touch it - it's gone
When you hear it - it's gone.

The moment we experience any thing, it is a memory.
We never actually experience any thing now.
Whilst holding onto what is seen, in milli-moments
the thing has moved on.This happens so quickly that
we do not notice the illusion in front of us.
It's like watching a film.

Phenomena is experienced through the senses,
then goes through the wiring in the brain,
is perceived by the mind, goes to memory for
identification, judged for good bad or neutral,
then reacted to. Everything takes place in the mind.
The real experience is in awareness itself,
not the thing it is aware of.

The only reality is aware of awareness,
and in that nothing is found.
That is pure awareness.
That is essence...it's not that far away!



Tony

Crazy Louie
20th October 2013, 15:03
I don't think I questioned the movie Prometheus when we discovered that the intent of the engineers was to destroy mankind. Was there really a why in anyones mind? I sometimes question god why he has allowed us to go on and on time and time again when it's fairly clear we are pretty much all Homers (Doh!) spiritually. The only answer I get is that he opens up another vein and I see things just a bit more clearly as my illusion of life here drains away.

Now that could be taken as negative thinking - depressing eh? Or it could be taken as Hesse said - "The path to heaven is through hell."

In my spirit I don't really think being closed to people is unenlightened - it's more a discernment of understanding that everyone can be a land mine of some sort bringing either light or darkness - and while either of those are useful as tools towards growth - they can also cause spiritual storms because you have embraced when you should have walked away.

I like the the notion of people thinking "I deserve it" -- yes they do - and all the spiritual results that are coming to them down the line. Reminds me of nine inch nail song -- "bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve." as jesus said "give caesar what caesar is due." - so if someone is spiritually empty,void, or just evil - what are they due? Love? - if they don't exist to god any more should they exist to us? Can we be unlightened if we see the truth of the dead? It's not a matter of being closed to anyone - it's more a matter of noticing the you that is in them and resisting it in yourself where they do not.

The knowingness ( juggling a few words around) is ignoring the distraction by outer phenomena not because we are negatively closed but because we are aware of how worthless it is to even waste thought on. And any love given is like arriving to late to save a drowning witch. - and why did jesus say do not cast pearls before swine? - Pearls stood for pearls of wisdom -- and the majority of the herd then and now cannot receive them...

I think we waste too much time with this love biz - common sense tells me that god wants his love to be taken into our hearts and then manifested into the flow of life - however since that love is a different version than the mutated flavors we have created and call love - its of little use to anyone here since they cannot understand it.

In man's version of love the basic value system of it all is mandated by the ego's idea of what love should be. So if we do not love a person like they deem we should - we are useless to them. And if they cannot even accept our dysfunctional trying to love them how they want to be loved - what chance is there for the purity of gods love to mean anything at all to them. (that's a stretch even thinking we are capable of of getting gods love right and passing it on with any degree of egoless purity.)

Tony
21st October 2013, 09:49
I don't think I questioned the movie Prometheus when we discovered that the intent of the engineers was to destroy mankind. Was there really a why in anyones mind? I sometimes question god why he has allowed us to go on and on time and time again when it's fairly clear we are pretty much all Homers (Doh!) spiritually. The only answer I get is that he opens up another vein and I see things just a bit more clearly as my illusion of life here drains away.

Now that could be taken as negative thinking - depressing eh? Or it could be taken as Hesse said - "The path to heaven is through hell."

In my spirit I don't really think being closed to people is unenlightened - it's more a discernment of understanding that everyone can be a land mine of some sort bringing either light or darkness - and while either of those are useful as tools towards growth - they can also cause spiritual storms because you have embraced when you should have walked away.

I like the the notion of people thinking "I deserve it" -- yes they do - and all the spiritual results that are coming to them down the line. Reminds me of nine inch nail song -- "bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve." as jesus said "give caesar what caesar is due." - so if someone is spiritually empty,void, or just evil - what are they due? Love? - if they don't exist to god any more should they exist to us? Can we be unlightened if we see the truth of the dead? It's not a matter of being closed to anyone - it's more a matter of noticing the you that is in them and resisting it in yourself where they do not.

The knowingness ( juggling a few words around) is ignoring the distraction by outer phenomena not because we are negatively closed but because we are aware of how worthless it is to even waste thought on. And any love given is like arriving to late to save a drowning witch. - and why did jesus say do not cast pearls before swine? - Pearls stood for pearls of wisdom -- and the majority of the herd then and now cannot receive them...

I think we waste too much time with this love biz - common sense tells me that god wants his love to be taken into our hearts and then manifested into the flow of life - however since that love is a different version than the mutated flavors we have created and call love - its of little use to anyone here since they cannot understand it.

In man's version of love the basic value system of it all is mandated by the ego's idea of what love should be. So if we do not love a person like they deem we should - we are useless to them. And if they cannot even accept our dysfunctional trying to love them how they want to be loved - what chance is there for the purity of gods love to mean anything at all to them. (that's a stretch even thinking we are capable of of getting gods love right and passing it on with any degree of egoless purity.)

Hello Owl,
We all have two potentials - dark and light. Most of us are something greyish in between. We are neither enlightened or totally evil. However evil does exist and so does pure being.

When we are selfish we are drawn one way, and when web are selfless we are drawn the other way. These movements are very subtle.

Our true nature is purity itself. It is nothing we create, it's just there. However, what we have created (the cloud around our being) has to be washed away.

Everytime we react we add to this cloud. Once we can acknowledge our dark side,
then all we need is some soap and water!




Tony