Naadi Shastra: My experience with Destiny

[Billy]

NAADI SHASTRA.Palm Leaf Astrology. Also known as The Akashic Records on earth.

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Hi everyone, I am going to attempt to express in words and hopefully share with you all an Amazing experience i had with the Naadi Shastra while i was in India. This experience is ongoing and will continue until the moment of my passing here on earth.

Before i give the history of the Naadi or Nadi Shastra. I would like to give my personal recommendation/warning for those who may like to inquire further.

1. There are charlatans everywhere within India.

2. I do NOT recommend having a reading online. (Better to be in the presence of a bona fide Naadi reader on a one to one) If in India then visit.

3. A Legit Naadi Priest will not take money unless they have found your personal leaves first. (Some people have paid only to find their leaves do not exist)

4. This was 2005, I was privileged to meet a Naadi Family who believed it was more important for me to experience rather than for them to make money,They found my personal leaves,

My overwhelming experience to date has cost me the grand total of £40 sterling./ 3500RP. exchange rate then.
Some Legit priests will try to charge upwards to 2,000USD/1980000RP. Exchange rate today. A Rip off. Yes they have to earn a living but do not go there.

It is written on the leaves when you will come, What Age and Also if you are destined to hear them. Many have searched but had no results. And because of frauds and disappointments the Naadi has been labeled a Scam by some. For me it is maybe not 100% correct 98% more like and all genuine.

The Naadi describe this as a science as you will read.

This is the Naadi Family i had my experience with. :inlove:
http://www.naadishastra.com/about-us.php#about-naadi

Naadi History.

History of Nadi Leaves http://shriagastiya.webs.com/agastiyanadileaveshistory.htm (Info Only)

Sri Agastiya

Agastiya

In Hinduism, Agasthiya is a legendary Vedic sage or rishi. Some say that it was the sage Agasthiya who first brought and popularized the Vedic religion to south India.

Agasthiya and his clan are also credited to have "authored" many mantras of the Rig Veda, the earliest and most revered Hindu scripture (in the sense of first having the mantras revealed in his mind by the Supreme Spirit Brahman.) In some reckonings, Agasthiya is also said to be one of the greatest Seven Sages or Saptarshis. The word is also written as Agasti.

Agasthiya was a great devotee of Lord Shiva. After Agasthiya reached the south, in answer to his prayer for revelation on the classical language of South India, Lord Shiva himself taught the classical Tamil language to Agasthiya. Agasthiya is said to have attended Tamil Sangam (convention) and staged his work, the Agattiyam or Agasthiyam.

This is one of the earliest treatise on Tamil grammar. In the 2500-year old Tamil Sangam, Agasthiyakoodam has a history of being home of Siddha medicine and it is said to be the home of Agasthiya.

He is considered as the first and foremost person of Siddha. He is considered the guru of many other Siddhars. He is also called Kurumuni, meaning short (kuru) saint (muni). His contributions were to the field of Medicine (Siddha) and Astrology - especially Nadi Jodhidam(Jos(i)yam or Jothisyam). He is said to have lived for over 5000 years, and that one of his medicinal preparations, Boopathi Kuligai, is so powerful that it can even bring the dead back to life. Two of his students and disciples were Therayar and Tholkappiar.

The Lalitha sahasranama, which describes the 1000 names of the mother Goddess (Known commonly as Gowri, Parvati or Durga), was first revealed to the world when Hayagriva, a manifestation of Vishnu, taught the same to Agasthiya. Agasthiya is said to have composed the Aditya Hridayam, a hymn to Surya, and taught the same to Rama just before the war between Rama and Ravana.
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Nadi Leaves

Can you believe that someone in India is storing records of your entire life cycle ie, your past, present and future. Hard to believe but yes, this is called Nadi Astrology. Nadi is an ancient astrology, which has been composed by great Maharishis (sages) of India in the past using their spiritual powers.

The sages recorded these predictions for every individual for the betterment of humanity and to safeguard dharma (righteousness). These sages predicted the characteristics, family history, as well as the careers of innumerable individuals contained in several thousand volumes, each containing around a hundred predictions.

These Nadi prediction recordings, being the repository of wisdom of the Great Saint was one of the well preserved books for thousands of years by the many generations of rulers, until an auction during the British rule, when it finally became the proud possession of an influential family of Valluvar community at Vaitheeswarankoil in the Tanjore district of Tamilnadu.

The Rishis (sages), who dictated those Nadis, were gifted with such a remarkable foresight that they accurately foretold the entire future of all mankind. Many scholars in different parts of India have in their safekeeping several Granthas. Initially, Nadi Astrology predictions was thought to be just writing on Astrology, but soon it became evident that the scriptures contained some unique predictions of specific natives, who will come seeking them, at a particular stage of their lifetime, as foretold by the Great Saint in these predictions.

This great work makes us realize the limitations of human sciences. That great compilation predicting the future of all human beings born or yet to be born, eclipses the achievements of all other sciences put together. These predictive texts also contain a chapter recommending certain Pilgrimages or prayers, worship and charities at specific shrines, to neutralize ones past negativity.

The origin of these palm leaves can be traced back to approximately 2000 years ago. It is presumed that the Sapta Rishis (Seven Sages) had written the life patterns of each person on palm leaves along with their types of names by their Yogic Powers. These unique leaves were kept in the Saraswati Mahal' library of Tanjore city of Tamilnadu State in India. Later during the British Rule the British were very keen to acquire these types of ancient leaves dealing with herbal cure, alchemy, fortune-telling etc; but left some of the astrological leaves to their loyalists. Some were put to auction also.

People belonging to a particular sect called Valluvar community who specialized in astrology bought these leaves. Some of these were acquired by the astrology families in Vaitheeswarankoil about 60 years ago from Thanjavur Saraswati Mahal Library . The leaves were found lying idle in Vaitheeswarankoil during the 13th century. The forefathers found them, realized their values and copied the contents on palm leaves and made exact replicas.

These leaves have been handed down over generations to make predictions. Astrolologers earned their livelihood through Nadi Astrology. It is a hereditary profession for them. They received training from their elders to do Nadi readings. What is written on the leaves is read and explained by them. The language is poetic and the script is also different. It is the same as in the ancient temples. Some of the Nadis are available in the Oriental Manuscripts Library at Chennai, India though in mutilated condition and the Sapta RishiNadi was published in Tamil in six volumes lagna wise .

The Sanskrit texts were translated and written on palmyra or palm leaves in ancient tamil language. There were some nadigranthas translated into another South Indian Telugu language. Marata King Sarabhoji and Chola Kings patronized this form of astrology and translations. It is stated that Sage Agasthya has written in Tamil.

For each thumbprint there will be 6 granthas (books). In each granthas there will be 108 sizes and 12 parts according to Siva Nadi and 50 sizes in Agastyanadi. This means for one thumbprint many stories of person can be read. In Siva Nadi more details are given as discussion between Lord Siva and Parvati than in Agastya Nadi .

It seems that these Nadis were originally written on animal skins and some leaves and later they were copied on palm leaves. They were preserved by applying oil extracted from peacock's blood.

The Nadi readers say that natives whose leaves are there will someway come to them at the appropriate age specified on the leaves from any corner of the world. Leaves are there not only for Indian but for foreigners also belonging to other religions. Whoever desires to look into the leaves will go to them on their own accord.

The word Nadi in Tamil means; (destined) to come own accord. Those who are not destined may not even know such a type of astrology exists. Even the very age when the native is destined to go to them is marked on the leaves. Whoever is destined to come will come. Faith is the root of their system. It is also stated that about 40% of the people in the world only are likely to get these results.

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More links for research

http://www.nadiastrology.org/nadi-jothidam.php

http://nadi-astro.net/

http://www.templeilluminatus.com/forum/topics/your-destiny-written-on-a-palm
The above link is interseting as it explains that the leaves also tell of future events for humanity.

Part Quote:

The exclusive knowledge derives - so the legend says - from the Akashic Records or from the gods themselves. Naturally, the written text and the leaf itself don't last forever, so it was and still is necessary to transcribe the texts on new palm leaves repeatedly over the course of years.

I found a (more or less precise) translation of a German article written by Thomas Ritter, who once made a trip to India and published his experiences regarding the divinations in his book "Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas" (2006) (Prophecies of Europe/libraries from palm leaves). The article deals with events beginning in the year 2011. The translation can be read here.

An excerpt of Ritter's publication can be found on this site (beginning with "READINGS"). It also thematizes happenings before 2011.
As always, one should be cautious when it comes to prophecies and the books written about them. If you're curious and want to experience your own nadi reading, be careful and gather information about the variant palm leaves libraries, so you might find a reputable one. End Quote:

http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/2711108
Above is the link to the full translation of the previous link. events from 2011 onwards.


http://cosmic-soup.com/akashic-records-nadi-leaves/
Above is a personal testimony much like my own.

My personal experience next post.

Peace

[Billy]

This is part of my experience, I will add more detail as we go forward.


2000 years ago in India 18 rishis and 7 sages were instructed by Lord Shiva through divine intervention to write down the genealogy from the original 12 tribes, which they say we are all descended from. After completion the scribes were asked to write down the future destiny of all souls. They are engraved on leaves from palm trees, preserved with peacock oil. They are Called NAADI SHASTRA. (Palm Leaf Astrology) they say it is a science using astrology.

When I was guided to this Naadi family in 2002 after meeting someone, whose uncle was the priest that I was about to meet, in Leopold's Café in Mumbai (which was the café that was attacked by terrorist in December 2008), I was only curious about what I had heard, that there were leaves for every soul. Now there is a lot that I'm going to miss out, how I heard, how I met them, also divine guidance. I arrived, gave them my name, and 3 thumb prints from my right hand. The prints connect you to your tribe.



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The priest said, "I'm going to ask you some questions, do not tell us anything about your self, just answer YES or NO, this part is identification and has to be 100% correct. Your mothers name is Elisabeth?"

"YES."

"Your fathers name is John?"

"YES."

"You are the eldest son but middle sibling?"

"YES."

He then told me in every detail, my sister, my brother, how many kids they had, I was married, divorced, my ex wife's name, my step son, my daughter, my work, how many blood relations were still living, the name of the woman I had fell in love with. Then he stopped and said that I would have to wait a while, they would get in touch with me after they had done a search in the library in the south of India. They took no money, I returned home thinking, that was amazing: "How did he know all my personal life, every detail?"

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Well it was over 2 years later, before they got in touch again. I received an email, WE HAVE YOUR LEAVES, awaiting your instructions. It was November 2004. I purchased my ticket to leave January 2005. Boxing Day 2004 the Tsunami hit, the east coast of India was devastated.

I thought, "Well I wont be going to that part as the Naadi family were near Mumbai, and I would stay in the west coast." I arrived in January. We had to go through the same procedure, mother, father etc., but then some more details. They told me that it was written on the leaves how old I was to be, before they could be read to me. That's why I had to wait over two years.

"You move from house to house, you have no home for yourself."

"YES, 20 moves in 7 years!"

"In the last 2 years since you were last here, you have lost some belongings of great personal value."

"YES, my 30 year music collection, all my personal documents, tax, insurance, pension, Education certificates, Years of photo's, and lots more. "

The priest accepted the leaves belonged to me and would give the full reading, 14 chapters all about my life. I had the choice, abbreviated version or full version, every word in detail. It is written if you are allowed to hear the reading.

"Full Monty for me," I said.

The next part was recorded. "This is the word of God," he said, "I have to pray this out, my sister will translate as I am reading. The leaves are written in the ancient Tamil."

He started reading and it was beautiful listening to him, chant every detail of my life, written 2000 years ago. He highlighted the problems in my life and why these were happening.

"It has to do with your last life. You have had 7 lives and this will be your last. In your 6th life you were born in India." He told me my name, where and when I was born, my mother's and father´s names, how many brothers and sisters I had... Every detail of my last life. I had caused considerable pain to others in this past life.
He then revealed I had managed to clear much of the Karma in this life at the age of 33, with the help of MOTHER MARY.

Before the reading I wondered if this would be mentioned, as 20 years earlier in 1985, I had a divine experience with Mary in Bosnia.

I was not a catholic but had a life changing experience, when Mary the mother of Jesus allowed me to see her arrive in the form of a light, coming down from heaven on top of a mountain. When this happened an aroma of what seemed to be a million fragrant flowers overwhelmed me. As this scent came into my being I was filled with overwhelming unconditional love.



It is difficult to express but ALL my negativity from my past was lifted in one moment, a concrete weight lifted from me. I cried, "Please God never let me lose this feeling that is inside me at this moment."

I thought everyone there must have seen the light come down, and that everyone could smell the scent that was so overwhelming. But no, only me, the only non-catholic amongst the 30 or so present during the apparition.

One of the visionaries came to me afterwards and told me that Mary had come over to me, kissed my forehead and given me a special blessing. There is more to tell at this point but later.

My eventual decision from this experience was to become a voluntary celibate, fasting twice a week, which lasted for 10 years.

"Ah! That is how you have managed to clear much of the Karma, but you still have more to clear, and the leaves are giving you instructions to carry out, to clear all negativity from your past. If you decide to carry out the recommendations, then your future destiny will be fulfilled, and your life will be as follows..."

The priest then proceeded to tell me a year by year account of my destiny; the name of my soul mate to come, when my parents would be no more, illnesses and accidents. He said: "You have met many great people in your life, so far (I have!). And you will meet many more."

All details up until the day I die, (Evening)

Everything he told me, was everything I ever dreamt of how I would like my life to journey, especially spiritually. There were four instructions. Two were to be carried out in temples. One with the help of the priest, who was giving me the reading, and had to be carried out on a full moon day. I was to take a garland of 108 flowers, 1008 one rupee coins in a copper pot and I was to be clothed in red garments. The second had to be carried out by the head priest, on my behalf in Tamil Nadu. The head priest would carry out a NAVAGRAHA POOJA, which is a nine day ceremony, involving the nine planets.

A yantra made of copper would be made for me and Blessed in the Temple by the High Priest, then given to me after the Pooja was complete. I was then to take the Yantra home, and carry out a 48 day Pooja in my home, then place the Yantra in the sea or river. I was asked to do a pilgrimage to the holy mountain in the town I was born in my last life. Finally I was asked to get a baby fruit tree, and to plant it in a place I had never heard of, and say this prayer when planting: "As this tree grows, so the negativity of my past would be washed away."




The whole experience was an overwhelming overload of information, but all recorded to listen in my own time. So I left and headed to my sanctuary in Gokarn, Karnataka, where Lord Siva left his heart. I have friends there where I rent a house, golden beaches, and temples. I sat on the beach listening and writing down everything. The more I listened, I would hear something I had not noticed before. I got so overwhelmed, at one point the emotion welled up, and I burst into tears, tears of joy, touched by God.

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So after getting acclimatised, a bit of a tan, I decided I would carry out some of the instructions. I headed to the east coast to Tiruvanannamalai, in Tamil Nadu. The town I was born in my last life, a town I had been to before and fallen in love with. It was inland, so had escaped the Tsunami. I arrived 2 days later. I met an Indian family and the daughter spoke good English, so I asked her to listen to the tape and tell me where I was to plant the tree, as I could not make it out.

"VELLAN GANNI," she said, "it is on the coast where the Tsunami has caused most devastation. Are you going to go?"

"Yes I will go."

She left and returned 2 hours later, with a baby banana tree from her sister´s garden.
2 buses and about 8 hours travel, so I headed overnight. I saw on the map that it was not far from Tanjore, where one of the Naadi libraries was found under the temple by the Brits 300 years before. They had been lost for a 1000 years. The Brits stole the leaves then sold some of them back to the Brahman's, Keeping some of the leaves that had to do with medicines and technology.

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So MY PLAN was to arrive, find a safe place, plant my tree quietly, and then leave after a few hours. Then head to Tanjavur. But DESTINY HAD OTHER PLANS FOR ME.


Lady Of Vailankanni Apparition

Because of collapsed bridges etc., 4 buses and 14 hrs later, I arrived in VELLAN GANNI, only to find it was a Christian community. A shrine to mother Mary. She had appeared there 300 years ago and healed a crippled beggar boy. It was huge churches, shrines, a collage of Marianology. I started looking for a safe place to plant, concrete everywhere, wild goats eating any bit of green they could find. I was exhausted after the trip.

(I SHOULD TELL YOU THAT I STARTED TO RECEIVE INNER LOCUTIONS WHEN I WAS CELIBATE AND FASTING MANY YEARS BEFORE.)
I was thinking: "Where am I going to find a place to plant my tree?"

"RELAX BILLY, TAKE YOUR TIME. STAY FOR TONIGHT".

"Ok ."

I found a hotel and settled in. I took a room on the top floor, overlooking the sea. I was on the balcony when the manager came up.
"That's where it came in," he said, "the Tsunami came, took everyone on the beach and at the stalls, two kilometers inland. The sea rose so high, it filled the church. Dead woman and children floating around the church. We thought it was the end of the world."

The Tsunami had come only 4 weeks earlier. A massive clean up had been done, but on the faces of the people you could feel the trauma.

I went out for a walk, looking for a place to plant. I was walking towards a small chapel, when I heard a woman shout: "OPEN THE GATE PLEASE."

It was a nun and she was chasing a goat out of a garden. I opened the gate, only to see the most beautiful gardens in full bloom.
I asked if I could walk through them. She said: "Yes, but please close the gates after you."
I walked through the gardens thinking, maybe I could sneak in here later and plant my tree. It was walled and safe.

"ASK FOR PERMISSION," I was instructed.

"OK Lord."

It was getting late, so I left. I returned next day and knocked on the college door, which the gardens belonged to. A nun answered.

"Can I speak to the head priest, please?"

"Come and wait, he will be back soon. He is saying Mass just now, 10 minutes and he will be back." I waited a while.

"Has he not returned?" said the nun.

"No one has come," I said.

"I will go look. He is in the garden just wait."

"OK," I said.

After a while, she returned and said: "Is he not here yet?"

"No."

"I will go and get him."

"OK," I said.

So she returned with the priest. He came into the office, and said: "What can I do for you?"
"Well I have a request, I want to plant a tree and I need it to be in a safe place. I want to ask if I could plant it in the gardens, maybe in a far corner out the way."

"Are you a Christian?" he asked.

I answered: "I believe in God, but I think religions are man made and bring division, it causes great problems in our world. I believe there is no religion or division in God, but 20 years ago I had an overwhelming experience in Bosnia, with Mary the mother of Jesus."

"Why do you come here, with a tree?"

"Well I came to India, and I had no intention of coming to the east where the Tsunami had hit, but I had a calling to come and plant a baby tree here. I did not know until I arrived, that this was a Christian community and a shrine of Mary's." (I thought it better not to mention the NAADI, as it was Hindu and tied in with Astrology. Being Christians, they would not understand. But I also wanted to speak the truth).
I felt I was being guided. More so after my inner locution told me to stay, then ask for permission. The priest said: "I am busy just now. Can you come back in two hours and bring the tree with you?"

"Yes, of coarse."

I returned later.

"Ah good, come in to my office. Mr. William, do you mind if a few colleagues come and join you planting the tree?"

"Well, I was going to just do it on my own, but yes that's fine."

We went outside and there..., waiting..., were many priests and nuns.
I THOUGHT: "My God, what´s going on? This was not my plan..."

"NO BILLY IT IS MY PLAN. JUST DO."

"Ok ."

We walked a short distance. The gardener had already dug the hole, right outside the head priest´s office. A metal cage had been made to protect the tree. I fully realized then that something divine was happening. I was being used by God. How wonderful.
I took the sapling and laid it in the ground. I remembered at that moment that I had some blessed ashes in my wallet, that I had received from AMMA, a living Hindu saint I visited in Kerala before I started my journey. She is called the hugging mother. Her blessing is when she hugs you. She also kissed my forehead, then my cheek, which I was told was a special blessing. So I started to sprinkle the ashes in the hole.

I heard a commotion behind me, I turned to see a very old nun pointing at me. She did not look happy. The priest said: "They want to know what you have there."

So I told them that it was blessed ashes from a Hindu saint, I have NO DIVISION in me, and as at the start of lent we are purified with ashes, so I was purifying the ground and the tree.

"Ok," he said, "carry on."

I said my prayer, As this tree grows so the negativity of my past will be washed away. filled the hole and all was complete.
I stood up and the priest asked if they could sing some songs of devotion. No problem. So they did. The priest said that after many deaths here, this tree symbolizes new growth and new life for us all.




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He then asked if I would join them for some food. I had been fasting until I planted my tree, so I said: "Yes please." We started to walk through the garden back towards the collage, when the head priest put his arm around my shoulder: "Mr William I have a request to ask you now, WOULD YOU GIVE US ALL A TALK?"

"I'm sorry but I don't understand... What do you mean? What can I say to all of you who have suffered so much? I am OK with a one to one, but I don't know what to say to you. Sorry but I cant do it." I was a little taken aback.

"OK," he said, "we shall eat."
Still walking towards the collage.

"TALK TO THEM, TALK TO THEM, TALK TO THEM.
YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, TALK TO THEM."
It was so loud and clear almost shouting.

I said: " WHAT AM I GOING TO SAY?"

Just then the priest said: "This is a collage where people come to learn about Mother Mary. You said you had an experience with Mary many years ago. I was asking you to share it with us."

My inner locution again said: "TALK TO THEM, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY."

We are in the collage now. I said: "I don't feel that I want to, but God is telling me to talk. So I will try, but if I get nervous and my throat closes up, then I may have to stop."

He beamed a huge smile, shouted in Indian some instructions, and I was led upstairs to a huge room like a hall. I was sat in the middle and everyone was in a half circle around me.

"MY GOD, WHAT'S HAPPENING?"

My knees were shaking. Give me a moment to gather my self. I went into a corner and prayed: "You have to guide me lord, give me the words to speak." I took some deep breathes and returned: "I Have been asked to share an experience with you all, I am not sure if I can express what I have experienced, but I will try."

MY TALK

30 years ago I married and we went to Turkey for our honeymoon. We visited Ephesus. On a mountain above the ancient city there was a small chapel, where Mary the mother of Jesus was meant to have spent her last days. I had my first real prayer in that chapel and drank from the blessed spring. It was 1975.

Ten years later I ended up visiting a small village in Bosnia, where it was reported that Mother Mary was appearing to six young children.

I was NOT a catholic, I was against the horrific history of the church, but was curious about the visions the children were experiencing. I was invited to be present at the apparition with the children, up on the mountain one evening.


Shooting Star

I was sitting with a group of about thirty people. It was a clear night with a full moon, you could see the lights of the village far below us, only rocks and gorse bushes around us. The children were next to me singing songs in Croatian. They stopped singing and started praying. I was thinking: "Well this is a nice place, a lovely clear night." Looking up, I noticed what at first I thought to be a shooting star.
We see shooting stars in the west highlands of Scotland most of the time, but this star moved at great speed. It did an impossible 90 degree turn downwards, heading towards us. When it arrived, it disappeared. This all happened in a few seconds.

At that moment the children stopped praying, all at the same time and they were having a conversation with someone only they could see. Their lips were moving, but no sound was coming out.

I thought everyone must have seen the light coming down. Just then a scent started to surround me, a beautiful fragrance of flowers. It just got stronger, as I breathed it in I could feel it inside me, it was like breathing in an emotion. IT FILLED ME WITH A LOVE AND COMPASSION like I have never experienced in my life. It was so overwhelming, I started to cry: "PLEASE GOD, NEVER LET ME LOSE THIS FEELING I NOW HAVE," I prayed. I felt I became part of all of creation, not separate, but belonging to.

It is difficult to put into words. All my past flashed before me, mostly negative things. I felt them being lifted and forgiven for them, a concrete weight being lifted from my shoulders. I thought everyone must have smelled the scent.
Just then it was over, about 15 minutes had passed. The visionaries told us what the message was, then they looked at me and smiled. One of them came over to me, she said: "Our Lady came over to you and blessed you."

Well I could not answer, no words to express what happened, just tears rolling down my cheeks. Nobody else had seen the light, or smelled the scent.

A few days later I was asked to document my experience in a book at the parish church. After that, people were talking of a woman who was coming the next day, an Irish nun named Sister Briege McKenna. They were all excited that this nun was coming. Mother Mary had asked the children to contact her in Brazil, where she has a vocation to help the homeless, and to come to Bosnia to give her a private message. She is a great and gifted healer, she was healed herself a cripple in a wheelchair. She also has the gift to see into your heart, and is not shy to tell you where you are going wrong in your life. She wrote a book a few years ago, called 'Miracles Do Happen.' It tells her life story.

When she arrived, crowds of people queued to have a minute with her. I was standing a distance away, watching, then I heard my name being called: "Billy come." It was Anita, an Irish woman who was talking to sister Briege. I walked over to them. As I was approaching, sister Briege put her hand out, I put my hand out to greet her, but she held my hand and put her other hand on my forehead. It felt like an electric shock went through me. I remember a crowd gather round me, more emotion rising inside, tears, and then only her voice: "BILLY AS YOU WERE WALKING TOWARDS ME, JESUS SPOKE TO ME. HE HAS A MESSAGE FOR YOU, JESUS HAS A SPECIAL MISSION FOR YOU. DO NOT ASK WHAT OR WHEN OR HOW, HE WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN THE TIME COMES. JUST WHEN YOU RETURN HOME, YOU FOLLOW A PATH OF LOVE. BE A GOOD MAN, LIVE A GOOD LIFE." (There was more but I keep that to myself as it was personal).

I met her five times during my stay there. Each time she told me more, and a prophesy for me. Also a warning about an attack that would come, if I followed the path I was being asked to follow. That attack came a few years later, as she had said.

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The reason I went to Bosnia, was one message Mary had given to the children, that resonated deep within me. This is the message.

THE MESSAGE

So the Franciscan priests were being pressured by the Yugoslavian authorities to stop the nonsense. The priests were not sure whether to believe the children. The apparitions were happening everyday at the same time. The parish priest asked the kids, when you see Mary tonight, ask her who the most holy person in the village is. So the kids asked her. Mary gave them a name of an old woman.

They took it to the priest. When he looked at the name he said: "This cannot be... Impossible... This woman is a Muslim. When you see Mary, tell her, this cannot be."

So they said to Mary: "The priest says, this cannot be, this woman is a Muslim."

This was her answer:
"Dear children, religion is man made and brings division. In God there is no religion and no division, but you must have respect for all religions. This woman is not holy, because she is a Muslim, she is holy because she lives a life of God. When she wakes in the morning, she gives thanks for her day. When she works in the fields, she gives thanks for her crops. She prays for everyone, no matter what colour or religion they are. She goes to the mosque and also to the church. She gives thanks to God for sending Mary. She has no division in her heart. And the reason we know she is holy is, because her light shines the brightest, her light reaches to the highest heaven, for us all to see."

Well I could not believe Mary was saying this. This is what I also believed.

When I told this part of my talk to the priests and nuns, when I got to the part that the most holy woman was a Muslim, well I knew it would not go down too well, but there was only one gasp from a nun. I looked at her and repeated: "She was not holy, because she is Muslim, but because she lives a life of God."
I told them that Mary had come as the Queen of peace, and to warn the people of the oncoming war. Due to the fall of communism that would also come. Her message to the world was, that through prayer and fasting we could change everything. We could stop wars, and even lesson the effects of natural disasters, just like the one you have all experienced here with the Tsunami.

I know you have and are still going through the suffering of losing loved ones, family and friends. But I want to tell you all that we are living in very special times, our planet earth is going through the changes that are mentioned in the Old Testament and the New Testament. Our earth is in the pangs of labour, about to give birth.

To look at this, it seems very painful as you all have seen. But with New Birth, there comes also a new life. The loss you have all experienced is not without reason. God has not abandoned you all, as some of you have told me, but everything is going according to the Divine plan. We all have to just hold on helping each other, in these times of tribulation and suffering. Then soon our earth will give birth to a New Way, a New Life, with no more pain and suffering. No more fear, only the unconditional love, that our Lord Jesus came to tell us about, and our Mother Mary never leaves our side. She is always here with you all, holding you as a mother holds her children. So my brothers and sisters, never lose faith. Hold fast and be strong, loving each other and helping each other.
While I was talking, I was not really looking at anyone. My vision was focused on a point between me and the people. But after I said this last piece, I looked at the people. They were all crying, with huge smiles on their faces. Well that did it for me, the emotions just welled up from within me, and my throat closed, I managed to say: "Now I stop there." They all started clapping and crying at the same time.
The head priest stood up and announced that everything I had said was within the teachings of the church. Even the Muslim woman, he said (they all laughed). He thanked me and said: "William, please come into my office for a moment."

In his office he asked me to look at the pictures on his wall. Aerial photos of the shrine with thousands of pilgrims. He said: "That is normally how many people we have, coming here everyday. How many people have you seen, while you have been here?"
"About 30 or 50," I said.

"Since the Tsunami, nobody is coming. But people from all around the world have been sending money to help. I have been so busy counseling people who have lost loved ones, that I have had no time to know what programs to put the money into. Today I was meant to be in Delhi, to discuss this matter. I had another priest ready to say mass this morning to take my place, but this morning my Bishop phoned me, and said it was canceled. I asked: "Why?" He just said: "Another time." So I said mass after all. I came out from mass, walking back through the gardens, and I realized that for the first time since the Tsunami, I had no appointments. I stopped in the garden and prayed: "Well lord, what do I do today, everything has been canceled." Just then the Nun came to me and said that someone wanted to speak with me.

And look what our Lord has done for me today," he said. "I am not just speaking for myself here, but everyone you spoke to. You were meant to come here, I was meant to meet you. You have given us all New life, a new beginning. We will look after the tree for you. Bless you and thank you."
Well, I said my goodbyes, everyone waving to me. I was still crying, floating across the gardens, thinking: "WOW, thank you."




I returned a year later, to see how my tree was growing and see the priest again. The tree was bigger than me. 23352

The Priest gave me a huge hug, and opened up a bit more. He said that he had been very depressed before my last visit. The horrors of the Tsunami. We thought the world had ended, He had been told not to take any students that year into the college, but the day I left his depression lifted. Then the Bishop phoned him, and said: "Take students," after all. "And now your tree will bring first fruit soon," he said, and asked if he could offer the first fruits to the Temple, (church).

"I would be honoured," was my reply.

We still keep in touch by email. He just sent me his first book that he has written. The title: 'Mary in the New Millennium'.

peace.

[4evrneo]

Billy,
That was so beautiful and touched me deeply. I was meant to read this today. I cannot say in words but just know I have deep gratitude and joy.

Bless,

[aranuk]

What a wonderful story Billy. What took you so long to tell us all? Were you waiting for the right moment or something? Anyway my heart is warmer now that story has been told.

Stan

[Alekahn2]

Thank you for this most intimate life story billyji. I read with tears and awe, breathless in certain moments, at the mystery that this human experience continues to be for us wandering and awakening spirits.

In 2005, while traveling, I visited my former wife who had just returned from (northern) India and she had had a reading done similar to what you have described. Apparently her 'timing' was near perfect, for she did not have to wait for years (only a couple of months). The only parts that she shared with me, were about me, my entrance/exit into and from her life, and details of the purpose of our relationship. At the time I didn't know what to make of it and was left feeling a bit out of sorts that somewhere ~"out there"~ is a record of all that has happened and will happen here on this astonishing planet. Amazing!

In gratitude and respect, may your journey continue to magically unfold as it clearly has thus far. I for one, would love to hear more about your experiences in Bosnia should you ever feel compelled.

Blessings brother.

[delfine]

Beautiful story. Thanks for sharing it with us. :)

[AlaBil]

WOW! Thank you for this story. What a read and how enlightening.

[MorningSong]

Thanks, billy! How fortunate we are to hear your story!

[Sunfeather]

Peace indeed Billy... Thank you.

[transiten]

Thankyou Billy!

That was a most beautiful and uplifting story! And before reading your post i just read about the pyramids in Bosnia that Wind posted, called my father and said "I want to go to Bosnia this summer!". I also arranged a picture of Jesus (for the first time ever) and one of my father holding me when i was 1 year for a special purpose the other night :angel:

[Wind]

Such an amazing and touching story! Thank you for sharing it with us, Billy.

[soleil]

beautiful story billy, there is a great unfolding for you!

[Billy]

Thank you 4evrneo and everyone for the positive responses.


What a wonderful story Billy. What took you so long to tell us all? Were you waiting for the right moment or something? Anyway my heart is warmer now that story has been told.

Stan

Thank you Stan. I have lost count how many times i have began the process of sharing this on Avalon, :tape: only to back off last minute and not post the thread. Sometimes i am apprehensive about opening my heart up on a public forum, Encouragement came from Bill and the team not to hide my light under a bushel. I Took a deep breath and posted.

Peace

[Billy]

Thank you for this most intimate life story billyji. I read with tears and awe, breathless in certain moments, at the mystery that this human experience continues to be for us wandering and awakening spirits.

In 2005, while traveling, I visited my former wife who had just returned from (northern) India and she had had a reading done similar to what you have described. Apparently her 'timing' was near perfect, for she did not have to wait for years (only a couple of months). The only parts that she shared with me, were about me, my entrance/exit into and from her life, and details of the purpose of our relationship. At the time I didn't know what to make of it and was left feeling a bit out of sorts that somewhere ~"out there"~ is a record of all that has happened and will happen here on this astonishing planet. Amazing!

In gratitude and respect, may your journey continue to magically unfold as it clearly has thus far. I for one, would love to hear more about your experiences in Bosnia should you ever feel compelled.

Blessings brother.

Thank you Alekahn and welcome to Avalon. I agree with you. Maybe we should enlighten the NSA that every deed and thought is already on record for all to see. :spy: :laugh:

One day i will expand more on Bosnia.

peace

[Billy]

As some Avalonian's may know I do not believe that predictions are set in stone.

When i asked the Naadi Priest if destiny was set, He said Destiny can be delayed (Even into the next life) or brought forward depending on the Spiritual advancement of the individual soul.

I did not ask about timelines but i certainly shall when i meet them again. Hopefully not to far in the future as i still have a 15th chapter to be read to me. Very rare they said.

I am going to post a list of Naadi predictions that concern all of humanity. Also very rare. For information only. For curiosity to see how things pan out. This was read to a German named Thomas Ritter. He said he received this reading in India on September 10th 2001. The day before 9/11. Whether this is true or not I do not know. He had been studying the Naadi since Feb 1993 in libraries in Bangalore and Madras.

How he managed to receive this reading for ALL HUMANITY at all is beyond me. Unless It was written on the leaves that this man was to receive this reading when he arrived on that day which would also have been written on the leaves. As it is for any individual who inquires, The predictions go forward to the year 2049.

I leave this to your own discernment.

I will post in two parts. First part is an introduction from Patita Pavana das Adhikary,

Found here. http://naadigranthbhavishyamarathi.blogspot.co.uk/2010/05/nadi-leaf-predictions-for-2012-and.html

This edition of The Astrological Newsletter carries a series of predictions ostensibly taken from a collection of South Indian nadis. In the days of old, the great sages would ask their students to draw horoscopes and predictions upon wooden “leaves” or nadis detailing future events. Of course, the Bhrigu nadis are most famous, but I have also seen nadis from Shuka, Sapta-Rishi, Nandi, Sanat Kumar, etc. Naturally, I have no way to vouch for the authenticity of any of them, but from what I have understood from authorities, most are genuine, but there are forged specimens also. The one described hereunder has a mixed of a ring of truth with some obviously questionable elements. For example, nadi leaves do not speak of “the Western calendar” nor do they give dates from it. Neither do the nadis give modern country names like Bangaldesh.

Ultimately, however, the Bhagavat’s prediction about Kali becoming king has now come true, and it is up to devotees to take evasive actions. Our point is that there are bleak days ahead, and devotees must prepare for them according to Prabhupada’s directions. For example, I heard that a devotee fireman was killed in the World Trade Center. In Chile, the recent earthquake has demolished the ISKCON center there.

Regarding the “predictions” – call them what you like – below, in the 1990’s a German traveling in South India met one Pandit Ganesh Babu, a reader of nadis, who revealed a series of disturbing predictions regarding future events, spanning the bloody dawn of the 21st Century to around 2050. Whatever the circumstances behind the following, the subject matter of the world’s future is of urgent importance. No one will deny that we have entered into an era of great crises.

We know that Washington, DC has never been shy about keeping citizens in the dark once the votes are counted as campaign promises dissolve. Shrila Prabhupada in his rare but insightful comments on demonic politicians pointed to the “false flags” of the sinking of the Lusitania, the Viet Nam War and the colossal “Moon landing” hoax. False flags are staged events that have been orchestrated specifically to bring about particular changes. That means events favorable to keeping the demons in power and the giant corporations who own the politicians in the black. Such attempts at hoodwinking the public are nothing new. Colonial Britain used false flags in India so that a tiny minority could divide, conquer and enslave the teeming masses. The Reichstag fire, a ploy which Hitler used as an excuse for seizing power, is said to have been set under Hitler’s despotic schemes. In the same way, America’s motives for invading Iraq and Afghanistan, do not add up. America’s War on Terror launched before the asbestos-laden clouds of dust settled over Manhattan falls way short of any reasonable arguments. Nothing about 11 Sept 2001 makes sense until, like a skeptical detective, you ask a few questions. Like, who stands to gain? And, what happens next now that every citizen has become a terror suspect in the tyrannical rise of the New World Order? Have Americans been tricked into voting for their own enslavement as a test pad for the rest of the world? It appears as though Rahu’s little corporate soldiers have made a giant leap forward in their world stranglehold towards their incremental dark era of totalitarianism.

ECLIPSES: AND THE LOSS OF AMERICA AS WE ONCE KNEW IT

JULY 4TH 1776: For many, the signing of the Declaration of Independence marked the beginning of America as a country. Historians agree that this was carried out in the morning. The Moon changed from Capricorn into Aquarius at 8:04 am by topocentric (actual) positioning, which was 2hrs. 13min after Sunrise giving these disciplined and punctual men plenty of time. Since America reflects the qualities of Capricorn more than Aquarius, a socialistic sign, I have accepted Capricorn as the Moon sign of the nation.

Since 16 Aug 2008 there have been five eclipses in Capricorn, an extraordinary number of celestial foretellings that cannot be ignored:

Recent Eclipses in Capricorn
2008 Aug 16: Partial Lunar Eclipse
2009 Jan 26: Annular Solar Eclipse
2009 Jul 07: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse
2009 Aug 06: Penumbral Lunar Eclipse
2010 Jan 15: Annular Solar Eclipse
No omen speaks of the work of Rahu more poignantly than an eclipse. Rahu is so vile that he attacks the very eyes of God, the Sun and the Moon by which the Lord blesses the earth with food and light. Rahu rules smoke and smoky situations, clandestine plots, things that encompass and ensnare through the most deceptive of measures. Hence, these five recent eclipses in Capricorn reveal a stunning array of problems for America. And as one government insider said (paraphrase) “If there are problems, you can bet that somebody upstairs caused them in order to invoke solutions advantageous to the powers that be.” The financial collapse, the depression, the loss of jobs, the smokescreen arguments over health care when hundreds of thousands are being mercilessly slaughtered by our own sons and daughters: all these are distressing. But considering that they are manipulated and that the fixes will be worse than the problem are causes for genuine concern. The time to take action is now.

At the end of the following essay on future events supposedly from the Sapta Rishi Nadi, I have suggested a few eye-opening documentaries that I consider worthwhile viewing. Bear in mind that none of the films offers a viable solution, even though each offers credible research in identifying problems. Neither are any of them alone, Shrila Prabhupada eloquently addressed these issues in his earliest issues of Back to Godhead. And His Divine Grace also identified solutions so crucial that the very fate of the entire world hangs upon carrying out those instructions of Krishna’s representative.

First, there must be reinvigorated chanting of the holy names “in every town and village”. Sankirtan is the yuga dharma and there is no other yagña that will truly please the Supreme Personality of Godhead Lord Shri Krishna. This means visibly chanting Hare Krishna, clanging karatals, beating mridangas and distribution of literature in dhotis and saris. Second, devotees must make immediate plans to carry out Shri Guru Maharaja’s instructions regarding varnashram dharma. Our salvation will come in the form of an agrarian-based implementation of “simple living and high thinking” with no dependency on oil. When Krishna has given us Mother Earth, the cow and the bull to satisfy our needs, what is the use of man-made hells in the form of polluted cities?

Thanks for reading this,

Yours in Krishna consciousness,
Patita Pavana das Adhikary, Ed.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Peace

[Billy]

The 21st Century According to the Sapta Rishi Nadis

From the German original: “Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas”
Translated by George Vodvárka.

According to legend, the library was created more than 5,000 years ago by seven holy rishis. They apparently wrote biographies of about 80,000 people who will come to ask their fate. About ten percent of these leaves apply to persons born out of India. In the course of centuries, several copies of the original text were done, so that today there are 12 libraries of palm leaves, located in different places of the Indian subcontinent.

These palm leaves each have a dimension of 6 x 46 cm. Written upon them are the fates of people who come to them to ask about the future life. The questioner’s fate is apparently recorded on both sides of the strip sheet palm. The letters are reportedly only about 1 mm high, and to the untrained eye, are not easily distinguishable. In these tiny letters one can find all the details of his life, including information of his parents and siblings, life partner and children, profession and certain physical characteristics and possible shortcomings. Modern concepts are sometimes figuratively translated. For example, the driver as a profession defined as “a vehicle manager”.

Sometimes in the palm sheet, the name of the person is recorded and also the names of his close relatives; if at the time of his visit still alive. In many sheets are written in advance and the date and name of the person who visits the library. According to von Buttlar the visitor usually is confronted with two sheets. The first give the name, details of his life as well as data on previous incarnation. If specific information relating to the life agrees, the Nadi interpreter reads from the second sheet also its future. There is the Bhrigu-samhita and the Shuka Nadi.

According to an article in Magazine Esotera, year 1992/8, Johannes von Buttlar says that the library in Bangalore stores 3,665 "bundles palm leaves", each of which consist of 365 palm leaves.

The interpretation of palm leaves in the family apparently a tradition transmitted from father to the oldest son. The particular copies I analyzed with c14 system where 350 years old.

I started to investigate the nadi leaves in Feb of 1993 in libraries in Bangalore and Madras. From the palm leaf nadis, each person receives only the information which may help his personal spiritual growth. Just in case that his karma is one of active participation in the political life of the country and for helping the future; one receives the necessary information from the relevant volumes of palm leaves.

There was some doubt initially raised in me in the context as to whether I have the right to publish the content of these prophetic texts palm leaves. In discussions with Ganesha Shastri and other interpreters of palm leaves in Madras and Bangalore, however, I came to the belief that it is my task in this life, to try to make this information accessible to as many people as possible. This obligation for me is already clear from the fact that I received an extraordinary honor and I could get these rare prophetic manuscripts.

These Bhrighu Nadi readings were done by Ganesha Babu Shastri to Thomas Ritter from old Tamil palm leaves in his Nadi center in Madras, on Sept 2001. The information is originally published in a book in German language in 2006, and then translated into Czech language.

READINGS

The palm leaf text volume "prophesied" contains forecasts concerning the further development of Europe and western hemisphere starting on second half of the 20th century. First, there was a chapter in general terms of essential features of the development of the western world in the coming decades. The following passages deals with the detail of the various aspects – politics, economy, social conditions, military conflicts and health problems.

The preliminary information Mr. Shastri gave me established the belief that the manuscript is only a small part of an originally much larger work. The very purpose of these is to warn of upcoming events that will have a global reach.
"...The eleventh day of the ninth month of 2001, according to the western calendar there will be a crime without precedent. The crime scene is a most important city of the east coast of the northern part of US continent: The goal of crime will become a great building, considered a symbol of the western world. The construction consists of two high towers. These towers attacked by vimanas (airplanes). Two of them are thrown directly to the tower and causes huge damage. The Towers tumble, but however, not due to the vimanas' impact, but by deliberate and targeted explosions inside each of them. In the attack die thousands of persons. Millions of people worldwide will be shocked by the offense.

"In the capital city of the country of this attack will be made one raid. The High command military forces quarters as attacked by heavenly arrow (a missile rocket - note. G. S.). The public will be informed that in the building (meaning the Pentagon - note. G. S.) will be found also a vimana. However, this is not true. Similarly, a false report said that hostile warriors abducted one vimana crew. However, passengers offered resistance and the vimana eventually falls in some uninhabited area. This vimana will actually be a shooting rocket, close to the summer place of the ruler of the country. The ruler of the state shortly afterwards accuses the conspirators of the Arab-European countries of the attack and proposes a war; this threat comes a little later.

"He will be aware that the allegations raised are not based on truth. In fact, he will know in advance about the attacks, and on the preparations involving people in the area. Crime will not benefit the conspirators, but to he himself, and the people will be at that time doubtful whether his coming to power was done in a legal way. After the attack, however, this issue will not be addressed. The crime will fulfill its purpose.

"Rulers of the Western powers will have the opportunity to unleash several other wars, designed to promote their own power interests. These wars will be held seemingly in the name of peace, security and freedom."
This scary reading I got the late afternoon on the 10th September 2001.
"On the seventh day, the tenth month of 2001, according to Western U.S. calendar, war will begin against Afghanistan by deploying a large Air Force, by the ruler of the United States to justify the fight for freedom and security of their country. In fact, the U.S. gains control of the land and its resources. The U.S. accuses a local tribal chief and their military units. Afghanistan is a country torn for several decades and wars of armed conflicts. There's poverty, hunger, and disease. Words of the politicians on peace are just empty phrases; the country continues to suffer a civil war. Children cannot play or go to school. Afghanistan was formally independent, with a free elected government, that government was not in fact dependent on foreign powers.

"The United States participate in the military campaign in this country along with many other states. Description of events in Afghanistan continues in several other palm leaves. Initially it appears that the U.S. campaign is successful; however, their plans fail in the long-term. In the period from 2008 to 2012 U.S. gradually withdraws from Afghanistan and will have to admit its defeat.

"In the eight month of 2002, Western calendar the east and the south of Germany will be affected by floods, which will extend to either surrounding countries. As a result of unusual reasons, there is an increase of the level of many rivers in eastern and southern Germany, so they flow out of their shores. Floods come quickly and unexpectedly. Causes considerable damage, destroy houses, bridges and communications.

"Many people lose their homes and a large part of their property. However, due to the solidarity of other large populations and rapid action offices, the consequences of the flooding will not be too dramatic. It will take two to three years to fix the damages. The prophetic palm leaf manuscripts also inform that in Europe there is yet a pending a wave of terrorist attacks of an unseen scale. The eleventh day of the third month of 2004, according to Western calendar, in the capital of Spain there are several attacks, using explosives. The aim of the attacks will be urban vehicles. More than 200 people will die and several thousand will be injured.

"In the last month of 2004, according to the Western calendar South East Asia will be affected by a huge disaster. Under the west of Sumatra island sea bed there is a strong earthquake. This earthquake causes a huge flood wave, which propagates to large coastal areas of Sumatra, Thailand, Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, the Maldives and even East Africa. Kills more than two hundred thousand people among them many foreigners, including from Europe. However, most affected will be the local population. Millions of people come on the roofs with all their assets. The report on this disaster, however, cause wave of solidarity throughout the world and to the affected area start flow-aid money, in kind donations, and rescue teams of doctors.

"Germans will become donors, because they will still live the memory of the floods that hit their own country. Anyway the effects will last three years, before the worse of the disaster is healed. Much of the aid is not reaching the needy people, but will end be in the hands of the unjust, using them as goods for sale. Sumatra recovery will be very long, because the complicate civil war situation on the island. The submarine earthquake against the coast of Sumatra but will be only the first in a number of disasters, which incoming decades will affect not only Asia, but also other parts of the world.

"For 2005, it contains other important forecasts: one week after some religious holidays of one of the two main Christian churches (the Easter means - note. author) the leader of the Church dies, which stood in the forefront of more than twenty years. (Pope John Paul II. Actually died on 2 April 2005 week after the Easter holidays.) His death will cause great sadness and participation among the believers of this church, but also other religions shows how much respect they acquired for this man. The successor of the deceased and the new head of the Christian Church becomes a man who for many years belonged to the earliest collaborators of the deceased and for many years held one of the highest offices of this Church. The new leader will be in functions surprisingly quickly, and the new man leads the church forward in the same spirit of the late predecessor. The new main representative of the Church will come from Germany and its name will be "Blessed". And shall remain in the highest office for about eight years."
The manuscript future of Germany and Europe speaks about general disillusionment. People will elect a new leader, but he will be no better than their predecessors. The gap between the rich minority and the poor majority will continue to deepen, and to show up at a faster pace. More and more people will be without work. Their work will be done by machines. This shall not apply only in Germany, affects other European countries, in fact it will to some extent, a global problem. General people will be burdened by greater burden of taxes and various levies and charges. Owners of large factories and shops will have on the contrary, continuously growing profits, they will do what they want, living as in a fairy tale.

The simple people will be seen as slaves and the new factories will be established only where it will be possible to pay the hungry low wages and the local rulers will receive rich gifts. Ordinary citizens will afford less and less and will be satisfied with cheap mass entertainment the institutions offer. They listen to music, watch TV and play computer games. (Here the terms are text interpretation formulations - footnote. author.)

Mass entertainment will be aimed at providing the minimum value. People will be presented a kind of a virtual reality, to forget how bleak for them is in reality the world in which they live, to make their daily life filled with existential worries, tolerable. People will pay attention to what will be free fun for them, to what is really important for them. This keeps them in a gross materialism; and the Mayic illusion will celebrate victory. As a result, a worse situation will continue to increase and make people uncertain. Many of them will realize that the system in which they live is ceasing to function properly. This will start major changes. Epoch called Kali-yuga reaches to an end and will be replaced by a better age, Satya-yuga. However, the end of Kali-yuga will be linked to large disturbances and the resistance of certain quarters against the new tendencies. Many people will loose perspective and use violent speech. These people are totally focused on the material values and will look backward instead of a forward view; they will complain of better times past and the future will appear for them as completely hopeless.

There is a call for a strong ruler who would eradicate all wickedness and punish properly the perpetrators. But a number of despotic rulers in European countries and Germany actually come to power because the wish by the people. This occurs in the years 2019 to 2046, Western calendar. However they soon realize that this solution is not proper. Gradually they begin to understand that a real change will be achieved only if they assume responsibility for their own lives and the lives of his closest people and neighbors.

This knowledge, however, will lead a long way, but even more will be required for the practical path of this knowledge. After a continued disintegration of values and social structures, positive social changes in Europe and Germany do not appear before 2048 Western calendar. Initially, the people will help itself, or even at the expense of others. Only when the situation becomes completely hopeless, they will realize that they can survive only if there is cooperation among all. Since public authorities will not be able to help, mutual assistance and solidarity between the families will be the distinctive characteristics of the new age.

THE END OF SUPER CAPITALISM

Most European nations are part of the same political and economic system, like Germany. The EU Community was originally founded by six countries with the aim of improving conditions of the population by trade liberalization and industrial development production. Over time, other countries joined. There will be a common currency. However, the larger the EU becomes, the more difficult will be to govern it and achieve the objectives which the individual nations wish. The EU Community serves primarily the interests of powerful corporations.

In 2004, the Western calendar there is a further large extension of the community by a number of states of Eastern Europe joining. Until 1989 Western Calendar these countries lived under a completely different system and large part of their population is poor. New country members hope that their membership in the Union will bring greater prosperity. However, it remains only a hope. Powerful forces in the European Union control the situation only to be ruthlessly enriched. They all promise equality; however, for most people this will mean equality in poverty.

The ruling circles do not fulfill their promises at the end. While various European countries participate alongside the Americans in some military operations against oriental countries, ordinary citizens will begin the first public protests. In 2005 western European calendar, rulers try to enforce basic uniform laws for the whole community, but it fails. In two countries, the majority of people refuse this common law. (In a referendum organized in the Netherlands and in France people actually rejected the so-called European Constitution - note. author.) This is caused a by prolonged crisis in which the system falls apart. Since the living conditions of people will deteriorate, the year 2004 by the Western calendar is becoming increasingly socially conflictive. On one hand, people seek refuge in the circle of family or close friends, on the other will be subject to spontaneous manifestations of discontent, that will often be directed against groups of foreign immigrants.

Since 2007 Western calendar there will be protests of people in general, mainly in large cities against the politics of the government and the powerful 'captains of industry. First it appears that these protests have the intended effect on the political leaders; finally however, it will be just a false impression. The situation will further deteriorate and governments will begin to lose control to ensure safety and public order. Economic situation will get worse as immigrant people will come to Europe in large numbers from other parts of the world, fleeing from crop failures, famine and civil war.

AFTER 2010

From 2011 western calendar, the crisis deepens since in the U.S. and in Europe money will lose its value fast. This will result in wrong economic and financial policies based on fake basis – on the assumption of hopes for a continuous economic growth. Influential circles in the U.S. and Europe believed for decades that the world is governed by the selfish benefit of some greedy people. However, people do not have knowledge of this and become victims of cruel illusion physical world game – Maya’s veils. Earthly world is not infinite nor are its borders, or human happiness nor there unlimited economic growth.

In 2012 the U.S. financial system collapses. The state will no longer be able to pay its employees. This will lead to a chain response and chaos in the society as a whole. Many shops, factories and banks will become bankrupt, more and more people will be without work, and thus without livelihoods. In cities there will be social unrest and looting, and armed gangs in the countryside. People will die. The government tries to get the situation under control, deploying its army; however, it succeeds only partially. The economic situation leads to conditions that will resemble a civil war.

This situation will last until mid 2017. Then a military force from a friendly country from the north maintains order again. The riots will be the largest since the Civil War in the 19th century, but north and south will not fight against each other, but east and west United States. The decline of the U.S. economy and the depreciation of the U.S. currency seriously hits Europe, in particular Germany, which is largely dependent on exports. Inflation in Europe reaches proportions as in the United States, and its implications, especially for poorer sectors of the population, is catastrophic. Many people will live in real poverty. In big cities in Europe, unrest breaks out, there will be looting, and the aim of the attacks of the discontented crowds will be the public buildings and offices. The situation, however, is not as dramatic as in the U.S. because in Europe the private possession of weapons is not so widespread. The police and army maintain the situation fairly intact.

As a contrast, in America, soldiers and police go without payment, and will often revolt. In European capitals there is a storm, whose target are mostly foreigners who have settled in the past. Especially bloody fights break out in Paris, Rome, Madrid, London and Prague. In Rome, people attack and take the head seat of the Catholic Church. The Pope initially manages to flee, but later falls into the hands of rebels who trap him.

The riots in Germany and Europe continue to autumn 2016, up to the intervention of Russian and Chinese troops, which will be solicited by European governments, as they will not be able to keep control. Least affected countries will be Russia, China and India, because their economic systems are mutually supportive.

MOTHER EARTH DEFENDS HERSELF

Since 2017 the situation will be somewhat calmer, but only seemingly. There will be new challenges and immediate dangers. While the war will be avoided, a changing climate becomes rapidly an acute threat. The average annual temperature will continue to increase. The Gulf current, which brings billions of tonnes of tropical waters to the north areas begin to lose strength and changes its direction. This will be due to the fact that the Atlantic Ocean gets huge quantities of fresh sweet water from the melting polar ice, as well as Antarctic Ice Sheet Polar Regions. As a result of this climate changes, there will be in the U.S. a disastrous drought affecting its south; while in China in some areas there will be extensive floods. Scandinavia transforms into an ice desert, while coastal countries will be threatened by rising sea level such as Netherlands and Bangladesh. Millions of hungry refugees will leave their homes and seek asylum in richer countries. These events occur from 2029 to 2034 Western calendar.

Ice storm will slash areas of northern Europe, devastating storms and floods affecting coastal states. Forests will die low areas of the coast of Northern and the Baltic Sea freeze and becomes a tundra. Dramatic changes in climatic conditions throw nations and their governments in a desperate situation. A lack of fuel will erode progressive international cooperation and peace agreements. Again armed conflicts breaks out, all continents will be desolated by a war of raw materials and foodstuffs. Within a few years, the world comes on the border of a total anarchy.

Countries with unstable governments, like Pakistan in a desperate struggle for raw materials and foodstuffs will have temptations to use its nuclear arsenal. In 2029 there may be another war between Pakistan and India. There is a greatest danger threatening the two fighting parties to deploy nuclear weapons, which would result in complete devastation of large areas of India and Pakistan.

As Central European countries will not have enough sufficient strategic stocks, the authoritarian rulers decide to deploy lethal gases in order to reduce the population. The overcrowding as a result of the influx of immigrants from all over the world, becomes a large problem and the political leaders will considered it the main cause of existing problems. Especially Great Britain will widely use gas to bring a quick and painless death. However, due to the extensive cooling of the earth's atmosphere, which is due to the collapse of Gulf Stream, and the glaciation of large areas of North America and Scandinavia, it will take several years for the Gulf current to start to circulate again.

After this, there is a certain stabilization climatic conditions. This happens from the year 2035. Gradually, agricultural yields improve, the harvest will be richer and there is a pacification of the social unrest. Moreover, in years when the world is affected by natural disasters a political confusion, epidemic diseases break out again, which are considered as already eradicated. Millions of people fall victim as a result of poor sanitary conditions, caused by a civil war that will rage epidemics of plague and cholera. Global climate change in turn causes health problems of another kind. Especially in Africa and Asia, but also in some areas of Europe more intense solar radiation produced upon the skins of both humans and animals in the form of tumors.

After 2018, another strange disease will kill hundreds of thousands of human lives in U.S., Europe, Asia. The infected person easily gets ill by normal diseases such as colds, as their organism, is unable to deal with them. Death usually arrives within three days. (Ganesh Babu Sastri called the disease by an English acronym RISC - Rapid Immune System Collapse, the accelerated collapse of the immune system - author’s note) In most cases the disease causes death. After the year 2023 in Europe, some African refugees bring a fatal disease called Kunu. Weak people get a high fever and their internal organs cease to work in a few days. The sickness will be deadly and will spread as fast as flu. But two years before the outbreak of the epidemic, they will discover the parasite worms in the blood. Internal organs get affected, especially the heart and liver; and the infected person dies within a week. This disease is transmitted by animal food.

The biggest disaster happens in 2046. Although unnoticed by astronomers, closer to our planet a planet will approach from the depths of space. This asteroid, whose path in space enters in our solar system, between earth and the Moon, will just miss the earth. Several days before, the asteroid becomes visible in the sky to the naked eye. The gravitational force causes many earthquakes and massive flooding on the earth. California will be affected by its largest earthquake in their entire history. Also Japan and China will be affected by strong earthquakes and large parts these countries will be covered by ocean water. Earthquakes will also affect Europe, mostly Germany, England and the Mediterranean area. Over the coast of Northern and Baltic Sea there is a huge flood wave. In Bohemia a volcano wakes up to life, considered long ago as extinct. Its eruptions will spread far wide. During the eruption there will also be released large amounts of volcanic and poisonous gaseous clouds of condensate rain and the lands will become very corrosive. As a result of the wounds, millions of people will be killed. In affected areas of Central Europe large part of cities will be destroyed.

THE WORLD AFTER 2048

Immediately after this disaster, those who survive will be cleaning up and doing disinfection work, as it will be necessary to remove mountains of corpses human and animal carcasses to avoid new epidemics. There will be a large demand for daily needs that was destroyed or lost, due to natural disasters.

The climate changes in Central Europe will stay permanently. The average annual temperature will remain high and the snow in winter will be only in mountainous areas. For agriculture the change will be advantageous, there will be richer harvest, and yields will increase. The tectonic activity changes the face of the whole Earth. Some coastal areas and islands will disappear permanently below the level of the seas and oceans. Japan will be particularly affected, California, Eastern coast of North America and certain areas of England. At the same time, from the water of the Atlantic Ocean emerges new land. Economic rehabilitation will take place relatively quickly. However the brake will be the lack of primary energy sources, as many of the raw materials will not be easily available.

After this, the economy starts to recover. At that time in Europe a new society will be formed, based on the personal freedom of individuals, which in turn will be linked to the needs of society and to meet its needs. People will learn a lesson by the recent events and becomes aware that selfish motives can endanger the very existence of the whole community. A new society will spread from the Atlantic coast to the east coast of Asia; and each of the areas, however, retain their own characteristics. All regional matters will be decided by local governments without having to wait for the authorization of a remote authority.

The new constitution will guarantee all citizens of a Eurasian Union, external safety and internal sovereignty. The economic base of the new society will be a non-interest financial system which will be tested and then permanently established in year 2048. [Note: Arab Bank lends money interest-free now, because the Koran forbids taking interest; banks instead of account only for fees for processing the loan conditions and accounting. Incidentally, the Bible also prohibits lending money at interest.]

The prosperity of the new society will be maintained by the use of a particular kind of an alternative energy source. This source was discovered in Europe and studied the beginning of the 20th century, but its practical wide application comes now. This energy will be named after its discoverer. This energy does not harm the environment as previously used energy sources. It will also be available to almost an unlimited extent and its use will be free. Soil and water resources will not be kept as private properties. People will realize that no one can claim proprietorship for something that already previously existed. However, everyone will have the right to have ownership of a house, whether bought or built.

After 2049 people will have knowledge that they are not alone in the universe. Repairing the damage caused by natural disasters in Europe and the Middle East, artifacts will be found, which will clearly demonstrate to the public their extraterrestrial origin. This discovery will have far-reaching impact on religious and philosophical systems. The period since 2049 bears a sign of a new beginning, a spiritually-oriented age forthcoming Satya-yuga.

Distributed via the internet by Thomas Ritter -
Prophecies of Europe / Libraries from Palm Leaves
[From the German original: “Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas”]
Translated by: George Vodvárka. Pub. Jochen Kopp, Rottenburg (2006),
www.dialog-lhc.cz • e-mail: knihy@dialog-lhc.cz
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Whether or not the above predictions are reliable, I cannot say, except where the coincide with Shrila Prabhupada’s prophetic description of a mini-Satya Yuga, the worldwide spread of Krishna consciousness. They are passed along to you as a matter of general interest in order to stimulate your understanding of the great need for devotees to find a safe environment in the coming crises. What we know is that the cities and the artificially-created oil-dependent “prosperity” must come to an end, and end – sooner rather than later. Alongside these harsh realities, shadow governments are vying for world domination using so-called elected “fall-guys” to play “world leaders”

Peace

[Wind]

Uhm... Be happy, don't worry?

[Billy]

Yes Wind i agree. Be happy and be the change you want to see.

The near future looks a tad bleak according to the Naadi forecast. But they were looking down a timeline between 5000 and 2000 yrs ago. personally i do not believe we are going to have to go through another 35yrs of deceit, wars and man made sufferings before humanity achieves peace on earth.

If we are working together as a human race we can get through earth changes and natural Catastrophes. We cannot prevent those but i believe we can lessen the effects using our consciousness.

As i said here referring an individual
As some Avalonian's may know I do not believe that predictions are set in stone.

When i asked the Naadi Priest if destiny was set, He said Destiny can be delayed (Even into the next life) or brought forward depending on the Spiritual advancement of the individual soul.


I would say this is the same for humanity as a collective. We can bring forward the long awaited peace on earth by the acceleration of our collective consciousness.

How do we achieve this. I thought this was good advice from the only planet of Choice.




What is important is to balance yourself. It is the merging of the physical with the spiritual that is the manifest purpose of humankind. But humankind has confused itself by remaining in its density and not correctly viewing the nature of its spiritual self.

It is misinterpreted and misguided by some of the religious leaders of your world, who attempt to control humankind – and the religions that would wish to deny the physical are not in balance, as also are those of the physical who wish to deny the spiritual.

When you accept, understand in totality, with complete trust and faith in self, in your connections with the Universe, then you bring about the balance and are no longer in bondage. Through the mental process of mind. If you disconnect the mind from what it is holding on to, it will be free. This disconnecting can go by stages, so that you can develop trust and faith in your ability to maintain your inner connection with the Universe. Then you will be free. When the critical mass begins in humankind, when enough of your souls are becoming free, then the space vehicle of Earth moves into its evolutionary fulfillment.



Know this, that with acceleration due to each human's involvement, it will come quickly and will not be in devastation, as it would be if such acceleration came by itself, by force of circumstance, without your involvement.


You understand, when there is a change that is coming upon Earth, and when there is a loosening up of confinement, that which confines attempts desperately to confine even more?


Know this: you all have come to Earth to beautify it, to purify it, to love it and to be in joy with it. Know this: that in your time, through your and others' dedication, through the quality of your being upon Planet Earth, you may bring it to the fulfillment of its creation.

The cosmic aspect of this drama is to save Earth in which many souls are trapped.

it is not the Creator that has punished, but humankind has punished itself, for they touched in truth the knowledge of who they were, and it frightened them, for they knew that they were not in the state to comprehend completely. It became necessary then to populate Earth, so that all the cells of the Creator could become individuals and free souls, in order for them to become one in unity and harmony by choice.

Peace


Accelerating Earth Evolution

I think the most important question to people on Earth at this time is, what can they as individuals do, and how can they as individuals make things different, so that our planet fulfils its destiny?

First and foremost they must recognize that each of them contains the entire universe within themselves. Each of them contains all creation. Therefore when they understand that, then hopefully they will understand that if they go against their own integrity, the integrity of the Universe may be affected.

They must consult within themselves for their motive in all actions; they must learn to love themselves, and the only way they may love themselves is never to do what they will dislike themselves for. What is important is that each person upon this planet earth must understand that there is existence elsewhere.

They must understand that they hold the key to the evolutionary process in the Universe. It is a time of awakening. It is a time to understand that within the self they hold the key for bringing Earth to its fulfillment and that free will is never interfered with; the destruction of Planet Earth is not necessary. This must be understood clearly, for the free will of humankind can bring fulfilment to Earth.


It is true that Earth is on the threshold of transformation. It is on the threshold of releasing souls and beings from bondage, so they may continue to elevate, and purify Earth so the Universe may continue its path.

It is a glorious time right now to live on your planet in physical form. Know always that this energy of individuals will remain individual, but what will be understood is the power of thought, the energy of love, the power that humans hold within themselves to make your world a representation of the Universe. Your world is a glorious place for all portions of the Universe to exist, and to fulfill, and to be at one with creation, in great joy.

Know fully that you hold the key within yourself, each of you humans, to bring about change. It is your responsibility, your free will, your choice.



peace

[eaglespirit]

It is a glorious time right now to live on your planet in physical form. Know always that this energy of individuals will remain individual, but what will be understood is the power of thought, the energy of love, the power that humans hold within themselves to make your world a representation of the Universe. Your world is a glorious place for all portions of the Universe to exist, and to fulfill, and to be at one with creation, in great joy.

Know fully that you hold the key within yourself, each of you humans, to bring about change. It is your responsibility, your free will, your choice.

...and it IS coming to fruition as never before, now, Billyji...Thank You!

Prompts of Helping Others in Our day to day meet ups to 'shine their own light' is going exponential...whether it be a word or smile or eye contact to show each and all they are worthy is changing business 'as usual' to business 'as unusual' in the highest of aspects!

[Karezza]

It was a good thing you had recorder with you. Thank you for sharing your experience of Naadi Shastra with us. An enjoyable read, Billy.

[Billy]

Prompts of Helping Others in Our day to day meet ups to 'shine their own light' is going exponential...whether it be a word or smile or eye contact to show each and all they are worthy is changing business 'as usual' to business 'as unusual' in the highest of aspects!

Thank you eaglespirit i agree. I have learned through my journey that you never know the importance of a chance meeting on a plane or a bus, walking along the street. That smile or word can be life changing for many.


It was a good thing you had recorder with you. Thank you for sharing your experience of Naadi Shastra with us. An enjoyable read, Billy.

Hi Astrolabe and welcome to Avalon.Yes i bought the very cheap tape recorder in India for £8. I spent time listening, pausing and writing everything down in my diary which I thought i had lost but found it a few weeks ago. Which inspired me to post this thread.

Both off your comments has brought to mind Another memory. As i was writing on a long 24hr train journey. Actually i was heading east towards the experience that i did not know was ahead of me of planting the tree. The western guy sitting opposite me said. " can i ask what you are doing" while watching me listen with small head phones. pausing then writing. So i told him. His eyes lit up and he said he had been searching the Naadi Libraries for thirty years. he was Swedish. But had never had any success apart from hearing his Mothers name. He asked if i was successful. I said would you like to listen as i would like to hear his opinion.

So i allowed him to listen. After about half an hour he had tears streaming down his eyes. His girlfriend asked him if he was Ok. He said he had never heard so much detail in all his 30yrs of searching. It was really him that made me realize how honoured i was to have all 14 chapters read. He took down the details of the Library i had visited and said he would be heading there soon.

Another quite funny memory was after my experience It was time for me to return home. As the Naadi family was not far from Mumbai Airport, I decided to visit and say thank you and my farewell's. The priest who gave me my reading asked me to enter their private temple for a blessing, He asked if i had carried out the instructions and i began to share what happened. His Sister was interpreting as i was speaking. During this with tears running down his eyes, he said to his Sister. Shhhh, Shhhh. I understand. I laughed and said you understand English after all. He smiled and said off course i do. He left to fetch his Father and asked me to recount what i had just shared.

A lovely moment. It was not until i returned home that i received the email that i still had a rare 15th chapter to be read. When the time is right he said.

Peace

[Joseph McAree]

Hi Billy,

I am so happy you have got your story out, I have just read it again must be my third time and it still moves me, my heart felt thanks to you and to all of those that have responded to your post, I am very hopeful many more learn from your experience and for the future, we will just have to wait and see.

I think you have a distinct ability to turn people to tears Billy , fear not as they are tears of joy and hope for the future of mankind.

Many thanks
From your pal
Joe

[Billy]

Thank you for your response Joe. Sorry for not replying sooner but life is full on just now, My Father passed away earlier this year and now my Mum is very sick in hospital.

You said, Tears of joy and hope for the future, Yes that is also what i felt during and after my experience. I tried to write the experience as it happened to me. Finding my diary helped me return to the moments with clarity.

There is much more i could share about the experience. Although the responses have been touching and positive which i appreciated, I must say i thought there would have been more inquisitive questions.

When time is on my side i will share more what was said about my last life and this life. I realized afterwards that this life is a mirror reflection but opposite compared with my last life. The Naadi gave me dates when i was born and died in my previous life. Details of Family names, How long in between lives before i was Born again in this life. According to the Naadi Leaves that is, As i have no memory of previous lives.

Till then, Have a Blessed Christmas everyone.

Peace

[Jean-Luc]

Thank you Billy for sharing this most beautiful experience of yours which I am discovering just one day before Christmas. Coudn't be a better time !

My prayers and words of confort for your mum Elisabeth in hospital.

You were wondering why there hasn't been more inquisitive questions. For me you story is just such a piece of crystal that I don't feel the need to be more inquisitive, at this stage at least.


_________


On the other hand, you were cautious enough in introducing the 'Naadi' predictions conveyed through the book of this German named Thomas Ritter with words such as:


For curiosity to see how things pan out.


and


...I leave this to your own discernment.

Personnaly, I feel less inspired about this part of your thread. Here is my own discernment:

The book apparently was published in German in 2006.


We get a very, very detailed account of a past event, supposedly conveyed to the author on the eve of the event (10th Sept. 2001)... which to me looks like some trick to catch the reader's attention.

More quite detailed accounts for the period 2001-2005.

Then some loose accounts for the period 2006-2012... with a collapse of the USD in 2012, an event which did not happen.

Then loose (and dire) predictions for the period 2016...2046.

Well, again, we'll see how things will unfold and whether :


in autumn Russian and Chinese troops are called for to curb 2016 riots in Germany and Europe,

in 2017 Scandinavia transforms into an ice desert,

in or after 2018, another strange disease will kill hundreds of thousands of human lives in U.S., Europe, Asia.

Whatever the poor state of our planet, I am highly skeptical. To say the least.

Anyway, happy Christmas dear Billy (I hope Bill does't forget the 'present (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=773462#post773462)' :)). I hope more people here in Avalon get a chance to come across your story around these days. And thank you again for opening your heart and sharing with us your wonderful experience.

Jean-Luc

[Swan]

For me you story is just such a piece of crystal that I don't feel the need to be more inquisitive, at this stage at least.




My feeling too. Your story is beautiful. I felt joy at reading it...no inquisitiveness at all :)

[RunningDeer]

Thank you Billy for sharing this most beautiful experience of yours which I am discovering just one day before Christmas. Coudn't be a better time !

This experience is ongoing and will continue until the moment of my passing here on earth.
:bump:

Big thanks to Billy and Jean-Luc! How'd I miss this thread? It’s helped me see that it’s time to refine what I am here to do/doing.

……………………………………………...http://www.pic4ever.com/images/earthhug.gif
Peace,
Paula

[Billy]

Thank you Billy for sharing this most beautiful experience of yours which I am discovering just one day before Christmas. Coudn't be a better time !

My prayers and words of confort for your mum Elisabeth in hospital.

You were wondering why there hasn't been more inquisitive questions. For me you story is just such a piece of crystal that I don't feel the need to be more inquisitive, at this stage at least.

Thank you Jean-Luc. Wow. How lovely that you and others feel that way.

Mum fell out off bed in her sleep again in the hospital yesterday. Side bars were up. Not sure how she managed to clinb over the bars with her leg brace on. They forgot to attach the tag which gives them warning. Grrr. She is confused but no injuries this time.


_________



On the other hand, you were cautious enough in introducing the 'Naadi' predictions conveyed through the book of this German named Thomas Ritter with words such as:


For curiosity to see how things pan out.


and


...I leave this to your own discernment.

Personnaly, I feel less inspired about this part of your thread. Here is my own discernment:

The book apparently was published in German in 2006.


We get a very, very detailed account of a past event, supposedly conveyed to the author on the eve of the event (10th Sept. 2001)... which to me looks like some trick to catch the reader's attention.

More quite detailed accounts for the period 2001-2005.

Then some loose accounts for the period 2006-2012... with a collapse of the USD in 2012, an event which did not happen.

Then loose (and dire) predictions for the period 2016...2046.

Well, again, we'll see how things will unfold and whether :


in autumn Russian and Chinese troops are called for to curb 2016 riots in Germany and Europe,

in 2017 Scandinavia transforms into an ice desert,

in or after 2018, another strange disease will kill hundreds of thousands of human lives in U.S., Europe, Asia.

Whatever the poor state of our planet, I am highly skeptical. To say the least.

I agree with you here. I found this article while researching what others were saying about Naadi Shastra, As far as the Naadi are concerned i know it is possible that he received this reading. But when i return and as all the libraries are connected i will surely be asking if this was a legit reading. I will let you know their answer.

Like Simon Parkes, The Naadi priests say to be very careful when selecting questions as they are as important.




Anyway, happy Christmas dear Billy (I hope Bill does't forget the 'present (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=773462#post773462)' :)). I hope more people here in Avalon get a chance to come across your story around these days. And thank you again for opening your heart and sharing with us your wonderful experience.

Jean-Luc

Thank you again. It was the 9th anniversary of the Tsunami yesterday, Boxing day.
It was an honour to be able to lift even a few hearts at that time.

Blessed Seasons to you.

peace

[Billy]

When time is on my side i will share more what was said about my last life and this life. I realized afterwards that this life is a mirror reflection but opposite compared with my last life. The Naadi gave me dates when i was born and died in my previous life. Details of Family names, How long in between lives before i was Born again in this life. According to the Naadi Leaves that is, As i have no memory of previous lives.

Till then, Have a Blessed Christmas everyone.

Peace

Today time is on my side therefore i follow through with my promise.

This is a small part of my Naadi reading.

I will share this testimony from my diary as it was read to me. The Naadi Priest reads/chants directly from the leaves in the ancient Tamil language. His sister translates. Excuse the translation. Some of the translation i did not understand at the time. Therefore after asking questions afterwards some things were explained more clearly. I will highlight in brackets my own input.

Here we go.

When the leaves are being read, both your parents are still alive, (This was correct at that time, My father has since passed)

You are the eldest son but middle sibling, You have one older sister and one younger brother. They are married. You are also married and have one daughter. But you are divorced from your wife. You are not that educated, (true :p) You have your own business it is in the technical line with wood or metal.(both)

In this family situations you have taken birth and you are known as Mr, William. These are just a few evidences that the leaves belong to you. (He then reads out some personal future events which i will leave out)

Every person has seven human births. (within the Naadi beliefs) The negativity which you committed in your previous birth and planetary positions are continuing till to this day in your life, your previous birth of your past life was your sixth one, This is your seventh life for you. After this there are no human births for you.

In your previous birth you were born in Tamil Nadu, You were born in a place called Tiruvannamalia. (A place i had visited previously and fell in love with, I truly felt i had been there before)

You were born in the Temple. (after asking, This meant i was born a Brahmin) You were born into a very good family, You had health and wealth, your family was very much attached to the Temple and doing Shastra.

At the age of thirteen years when your negativity began. You married, It was an arranged marriage.

Your Fathers Name was Subramaniyan (Second family name was given also)
Your Mothers Name was Geetha
Your name was Sundaran
You were the third child in the family
you had two elder sisters and two younger sisters and one younger brother.
you got married secondly among'st your siblings ounce your elder sister was married then you got married.

He then proceeded to give me a detailed account of my past life. the pain i had caused others. The shame i brought to my family. Having an affair at 29yrs and second marriage, had children while still married to first wife. (Bigamy) which caused my first wife through shame to commit suicide, Not before she cursed me. leading a double life. Going to the Temple to meet woman rather than doing Pooja. Left my second wife at 37yrs after spending all her money. (:noidea: Long story short. four pages long. I was a spoiled brat and caused much pain) The Naadi said, Harming many people. My family disowned me.

You were continuing to do the same deeds and in later years 59yrs old there was serious health ailments for you. blood related problems and breathing troubles. After that you regretted your deeds and started going to the Temple and worshiping Lord Shiva. You were in penance for 9yrs and only after those good deeds and services which you did for nine years, you completed that birth and you have taken this birth. And in this birth you were born into a poor but good family. In this birth you were born away from India. You were born abroad. But because of the curses of your past life of the ladies who were affected by you. And the curses of your two sons whom you left. and planetary positions those things hold you back.

Recommendation to release past negativity.

1.Do a pilgrimage to town i was born in past life,

2. Plant a tree. see OP post number 2.

3. Do a Navagraha Pooja. (pooja of the nine planets) on a full moon day.

4. receive a yantra made of copper, take it home. pooja for 48days then lay yantra in sea or river.

According to the Naadi. I Am.
Sundaran Kumar. Brahmin. Born 1856. Tamil Nadu. Tiruvanannamalia. India. Died 1925.

Mr. William Born 1954 Scotland. with 29yrs in between lives.

Peace.

Tiruvanannamalia. India

[Jimswitz]

Some mind blowing predictions here,but I really like the positive way you look at it,and the assertion that we can accelerate the coming of the 'good' times by working together with our consciousness.I believe this too.
I remember when you came back from Bosnia after your early visits in the 1980's,and talked of your experiences.You told us that the Soviet Union would cease to exist by the end of the decade,and that a war would start in the former Yugoslavia.At that time it seemed very unlikely that these things would happen.Nowadays,I know better than not to listen to what you say.
I'm awestruck by the honour bestowed on you ,my friend,to receive this privileged knowledge and share it with us.


The 21st Century According to the Sapta Rishi Nadis

From the German original: “Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas”
Translated by George Vodvárka.

According to legend, the library was created more than 5,000 years ago by seven holy rishis. They apparently wrote biographies of about 80,000 people who will come to ask their fate. About ten percent of these leaves apply to persons born out of India. In the course of centuries, several copies of the original text were done, so that today there are 12 libraries of palm leaves, located in different places of the Indian subcontinent.

These palm leaves each have a dimension of 6 x 46 cm. Written upon them are the fates of people who come to them to ask about the future life. The questioner’s fate is apparently recorded on both sides of the strip sheet palm. The letters are reportedly only about 1 mm high, and to the untrained eye, are not easily distinguishable. In these tiny letters one can find all the details of his life, including information of his parents and siblings, life partner and children, profession and certain physical characteristics and possible shortcomings. Modern concepts are sometimes figuratively translated. For example, the driver as a profession defined as “a vehicle manager”.

Sometimes in the palm sheet, the name of the person is recorded and also the names of his close relatives; if at the time of his visit still alive. In many sheets are written in advance and the date and name of the person who visits the library. According to von Buttlar the visitor usually is confronted with two sheets. The first give the name, details of his life as well as data on previous incarnation. If specific information relating to the life agrees, the Nadi interpreter reads from the second sheet also its future. There is the Bhrigu-samhita and the Shuka Nadi.

According to an article in Magazine Esotera, year 1992/8, Johannes von Buttlar says that the library in Bangalore stores 3,665 "bundles palm leaves", each of which consist of 365 palm leaves.

The interpretation of palm leaves in the family apparently a tradition transmitted from father to the oldest son. The particular copies I analyzed with c14 system where 350 years old.

I started to investigate the nadi leaves in Feb of 1993 in libraries in Bangalore and Madras. From the palm leaf nadis, each person receives only the information which may help his personal spiritual growth. Just in case that his karma is one of active participation in the political life of the country and for helping the future; one receives the necessary information from the relevant volumes of palm leaves.

There was some doubt initially raised in me in the context as to whether I have the right to publish the content of these prophetic texts palm leaves. In discussions with Ganesha Shastri and other interpreters of palm leaves in Madras and Bangalore, however, I came to the belief that it is my task in this life, to try to make this information accessible to as many people as possible. This obligation for me is already clear from the fact that I received an extraordinary honor and I could get these rare prophetic manuscripts.

These Bhrighu Nadi readings were done by Ganesha Babu Shastri to Thomas Ritter from old Tamil palm leaves in his Nadi center in Madras, on Sept 2001. The information is originally published in a book in German language in 2006, and then translated into Czech language.

READINGS

The palm leaf text volume "prophesied" contains forecasts concerning the further development of Europe and western hemisphere starting on second half of the 20th century. First, there was a chapter in general terms of essential features of the development of the western world in the coming decades. The following passages deals with the detail of the various aspects – politics, economy, social conditions, military conflicts and health problems.

The preliminary information Mr. Shastri gave me established the belief that the manuscript is only a small part of an originally much larger work. The very purpose of these is to warn of upcoming events that will have a global reach.
"...The eleventh day of the ninth month of 2001, according to the western calendar there will be a crime without precedent. The crime scene is a most important city of the east coast of the northern part of US continent: The goal of crime will become a great building, considered a symbol of the western world. The construction consists of two high towers. These towers attacked by vimanas (airplanes). Two of them are thrown directly to the tower and causes huge damage. The Towers tumble, but however, not due to the vimanas' impact, but by deliberate and targeted explosions inside each of them. In the attack die thousands of persons. Millions of people worldwide will be shocked by the offense.

"In the capital city of the country of this attack will be made one raid. The High command military forces quarters as attacked by heavenly arrow (a missile rocket - note. G. S.). The public will be informed that in the building (meaning the Pentagon - note. G. S.) will be found also a vimana. However, this is not true. Similarly, a false report said that hostile warriors abducted one vimana crew. However, passengers offered resistance and the vimana eventually falls in some uninhabited area. This vimana will actually be a shooting rocket, close to the summer place of the ruler of the country. The ruler of the state shortly afterwards accuses the conspirators of the Arab-European countries of the attack and proposes a war; this threat comes a little later.

"He will be aware that the allegations raised are not based on truth. In fact, he will know in advance about the attacks, and on the preparations involving people in the area. Crime will not benefit the conspirators, but to he himself, and the people will be at that time doubtful whether his coming to power was done in a legal way. After the attack, however, this issue will not be addressed. The crime will fulfill its purpose.

"Rulers of the Western powers will have the opportunity to unleash several other wars, designed to promote their own power interests. These wars will be held seemingly in the name of peace, security and freedom."
This scary reading I got the late afternoon on the 10th September 2001.
"On the seventh day, the tenth month of 2001, according to Western U.S. calendar, war will begin against Afghanistan by deploying a large Air Force, by the ruler of the United States to justify the fight for freedom and security of their country. In fact, the U.S. gains control of the land and its resources. The U.S. accuses a local tribal chief and their military units. Afghanistan is a country torn for several decades and wars of armed conflicts. There's poverty, hunger, and disease. Words of the politicians on peace are just empty phrases; the country continues to suffer a civil war. Children cannot play or go to school. Afghanistan was formally independent, with a free elected government, that government was not in fact dependent on foreign powers.

"The United States participate in the military campaign in this country along with many other states. Description of events in Afghanistan continues in several other palm leaves. Initially it appears that the U.S. campaign is successful; however, their plans fail in the long-term. In the period from 2008 to 2012 U.S. gradually withdraws from Afghanistan and will have to admit its defeat.

"In the eight month of 2002, Western calendar the east and the south of Germany will be affected by floods, which will extend to either surrounding countries. As a result of unusual reasons, there is an increase of the level of many rivers in eastern and southern Germany, so they flow out of their shores. Floods come quickly and unexpectedly. Causes considerable damage, destroy houses, bridges and communications.

"Many people lose their homes and a large part of their property. However, due to the solidarity of other large populations and rapid action offices, the consequences of the flooding will not be too dramatic. It will take two to three years to fix the damages. The prophetic palm leaf manuscripts also inform that in Europe there is yet a pending a wave of terrorist attacks of an unseen scale. The eleventh day of the third month of 2004, according to Western calendar, in the capital of Spain there are several attacks, using explosives. The aim of the attacks will be urban vehicles. More than 200 people will die and several thousand will be injured.

"In the last month of 2004, according to the Western calendar South East Asia will be affected by a huge disaster. Under the west of Sumatra island sea bed there is a strong earthquake. This earthquake causes a huge flood wave, which propagates to large coastal areas of Sumatra, Thailand, Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, the Maldives and even East Africa. Kills more than two hundred thousand people among them many foreigners, including from Europe. However, most affected will be the local population. Millions of people come on the roofs with all their assets. The report on this disaster, however, cause wave of solidarity throughout the world and to the affected area start flow-aid money, in kind donations, and rescue teams of doctors.

"Germans will become donors, because they will still live the memory of the floods that hit their own country. Anyway the effects will last three years, before the worse of the disaster is healed. Much of the aid is not reaching the needy people, but will end be in the hands of the unjust, using them as goods for sale. Sumatra recovery will be very long, because the complicate civil war situation on the island. The submarine earthquake against the coast of Sumatra but will be only the first in a number of disasters, which incoming decades will affect not only Asia, but also other parts of the world.

"For 2005, it contains other important forecasts: one week after some religious holidays of one of the two main Christian churches (the Easter means - note. author) the leader of the Church dies, which stood in the forefront of more than twenty years. (Pope John Paul II. Actually died on 2 April 2005 week after the Easter holidays.) His death will cause great sadness and participation among the believers of this church, but also other religions shows how much respect they acquired for this man. The successor of the deceased and the new head of the Christian Church becomes a man who for many years belonged to the earliest collaborators of the deceased and for many years held one of the highest offices of this Church. The new leader will be in functions surprisingly quickly, and the new man leads the church forward in the same spirit of the late predecessor. The new main representative of the Church will come from Germany and its name will be "Blessed". And shall remain in the highest office for about eight years."
The manuscript future of Germany and Europe speaks about general disillusionment. People will elect a new leader, but he will be no better than their predecessors. The gap between the rich minority and the poor majority will continue to deepen, and to show up at a faster pace. More and more people will be without work. Their work will be done by machines. This shall not apply only in Germany, affects other European countries, in fact it will to some extent, a global problem. General people will be burdened by greater burden of taxes and various levies and charges. Owners of large factories and shops will have on the contrary, continuously growing profits, they will do what they want, living as in a fairy tale.

The simple people will be seen as slaves and the new factories will be established only where it will be possible to pay the hungry low wages and the local rulers will receive rich gifts. Ordinary citizens will afford less and less and will be satisfied with cheap mass entertainment the institutions offer. They listen to music, watch TV and play computer games. (Here the terms are text interpretation formulations - footnote. author.)

Mass entertainment will be aimed at providing the minimum value. People will be presented a kind of a virtual reality, to forget how bleak for them is in reality the world in which they live, to make their daily life filled with existential worries, tolerable. People will pay attention to what will be free fun for them, to what is really important for them. This keeps them in a gross materialism; and the Mayic illusion will celebrate victory. As a result, a worse situation will continue to increase and make people uncertain. Many of them will realize that the system in which they live is ceasing to function properly. This will start major changes. Epoch called Kali-yuga reaches to an end and will be replaced by a better age, Satya-yuga. However, the end of Kali-yuga will be linked to large disturbances and the resistance of certain quarters against the new tendencies. Many people will loose perspective and use violent speech. These people are totally focused on the material values and will look backward instead of a forward view; they will complain of better times past and the future will appear for them as completely hopeless.

There is a call for a strong ruler who would eradicate all wickedness and punish properly the perpetrators. But a number of despotic rulers in European countries and Germany actually come to power because the wish by the people. This occurs in the years 2019 to 2046, Western calendar. However they soon realize that this solution is not proper. Gradually they begin to understand that a real change will be achieved only if they assume responsibility for their own lives and the lives of his closest people and neighbors.

This knowledge, however, will lead a long way, but even more will be required for the practical path of this knowledge. After a continued disintegration of values and social structures, positive social changes in Europe and Germany do not appear before 2048 Western calendar. Initially, the people will help itself, or even at the expense of others. Only when the situation becomes completely hopeless, they will realize that they can survive only if there is cooperation among all. Since public authorities will not be able to help, mutual assistance and solidarity between the families will be the distinctive characteristics of the new age.

THE END OF SUPER CAPITALISM

Most European nations are part of the same political and economic system, like Germany. The EU Community was originally founded by six countries with the aim of improving conditions of the population by trade liberalization and industrial development production. Over time, other countries joined. There will be a common currency. However, the larger the EU becomes, the more difficult will be to govern it and achieve the objectives which the individual nations wish. The EU Community serves primarily the interests of powerful corporations.

In 2004, the Western calendar there is a further large extension of the community by a number of states of Eastern Europe joining. Until 1989 Western Calendar these countries lived under a completely different system and large part of their population is poor. New country members hope that their membership in the Union will bring greater prosperity. However, it remains only a hope. Powerful forces in the European Union control the situation only to be ruthlessly enriched. They all promise equality; however, for most people this will mean equality in poverty.

The ruling circles do not fulfill their promises at the end. While various European countries participate alongside the Americans in some military operations against oriental countries, ordinary citizens will begin the first public protests. In 2005 western European calendar, rulers try to enforce basic uniform laws for the whole community, but it fails. In two countries, the majority of people refuse this common law. (In a referendum organized in the Netherlands and in France people actually rejected the so-called European Constitution - note. author.) This is caused a by prolonged crisis in which the system falls apart. Since the living conditions of people will deteriorate, the year 2004 by the Western calendar is becoming increasingly socially conflictive. On one hand, people seek refuge in the circle of family or close friends, on the other will be subject to spontaneous manifestations of discontent, that will often be directed against groups of foreign immigrants.

Since 2007 Western calendar there will be protests of people in general, mainly in large cities against the politics of the government and the powerful 'captains of industry. First it appears that these protests have the intended effect on the political leaders; finally however, it will be just a false impression. The situation will further deteriorate and governments will begin to lose control to ensure safety and public order. Economic situation will get worse as immigrant people will come to Europe in large numbers from other parts of the world, fleeing from crop failures, famine and civil war.

AFTER 2010

From 2011 western calendar, the crisis deepens since in the U.S. and in Europe money will lose its value fast. This will result in wrong economic and financial policies based on fake basis – on the assumption of hopes for a continuous economic growth. Influential circles in the U.S. and Europe believed for decades that the world is governed by the selfish benefit of some greedy people. However, people do not have knowledge of this and become victims of cruel illusion physical world game – Maya’s veils. Earthly world is not infinite nor are its borders, or human happiness nor there unlimited economic growth.

In 2012 the U.S. financial system collapses. The state will no longer be able to pay its employees. This will lead to a chain response and chaos in the society as a whole. Many shops, factories and banks will become bankrupt, more and more people will be without work, and thus without livelihoods. In cities there will be social unrest and looting, and armed gangs in the countryside. People will die. The government tries to get the situation under control, deploying its army; however, it succeeds only partially. The economic situation leads to conditions that will resemble a civil war.

This situation will last until mid 2017. Then a military force from a friendly country from the north maintains order again. The riots will be the largest since the Civil War in the 19th century, but north and south will not fight against each other, but east and west United States. The decline of the U.S. economy and the depreciation of the U.S. currency seriously hits Europe, in particular Germany, which is largely dependent on exports. Inflation in Europe reaches proportions as in the United States, and its implications, especially for poorer sectors of the population, is catastrophic. Many people will live in real poverty. In big cities in Europe, unrest breaks out, there will be looting, and the aim of the attacks of the discontented crowds will be the public buildings and offices. The situation, however, is not as dramatic as in the U.S. because in Europe the private possession of weapons is not so widespread. The police and army maintain the situation fairly intact.

As a contrast, in America, soldiers and police go without payment, and will often revolt. In European capitals there is a storm, whose target are mostly foreigners who have settled in the past. Especially bloody fights break out in Paris, Rome, Madrid, London and Prague. In Rome, people attack and take the head seat of the Catholic Church. The Pope initially manages to flee, but later falls into the hands of rebels who trap him.

The riots in Germany and Europe continue to autumn 2016, up to the intervention of Russian and Chinese troops, which will be solicited by European governments, as they will not be able to keep control. Least affected countries will be Russia, China and India, because their economic systems are mutually supportive.

MOTHER EARTH DEFENDS HERSELF

Since 2017 the situation will be somewhat calmer, but only seemingly. There will be new challenges and immediate dangers. While the war will be avoided, a changing climate becomes rapidly an acute threat. The average annual temperature will continue to increase. The Gulf current, which brings billions of tonnes of tropical waters to the north areas begin to lose strength and changes its direction. This will be due to the fact that the Atlantic Ocean gets huge quantities of fresh sweet water from the melting polar ice, as well as Antarctic Ice Sheet Polar Regions. As a result of this climate changes, there will be in the U.S. a disastrous drought affecting its south; while in China in some areas there will be extensive floods. Scandinavia transforms into an ice desert, while coastal countries will be threatened by rising sea level such as Netherlands and Bangladesh. Millions of hungry refugees will leave their homes and seek asylum in richer countries. These events occur from 2029 to 2034 Western calendar.

Ice storm will slash areas of northern Europe, devastating storms and floods affecting coastal states. Forests will die low areas of the coast of Northern and the Baltic Sea freeze and becomes a tundra. Dramatic changes in climatic conditions throw nations and their governments in a desperate situation. A lack of fuel will erode progressive international cooperation and peace agreements. Again armed conflicts breaks out, all continents will be desolated by a war of raw materials and foodstuffs. Within a few years, the world comes on the border of a total anarchy.

Countries with unstable governments, like Pakistan in a desperate struggle for raw materials and foodstuffs will have temptations to use its nuclear arsenal. In 2029 there may be another war between Pakistan and India. There is a greatest danger threatening the two fighting parties to deploy nuclear weapons, which would result in complete devastation of large areas of India and Pakistan.

As Central European countries will not have enough sufficient strategic stocks, the authoritarian rulers decide to deploy lethal gases in order to reduce the population. The overcrowding as a result of the influx of immigrants from all over the world, becomes a large problem and the political leaders will considered it the main cause of existing problems. Especially Great Britain will widely use gas to bring a quick and painless death. However, due to the extensive cooling of the earth's atmosphere, which is due to the collapse of Gulf Stream, and the glaciation of large areas of North America and Scandinavia, it will take several years for the Gulf current to start to circulate again.

After this, there is a certain stabilization climatic conditions. This happens from the year 2035. Gradually, agricultural yields improve, the harvest will be richer and there is a pacification of the social unrest. Moreover, in years when the world is affected by natural disasters a political confusion, epidemic diseases break out again, which are considered as already eradicated. Millions of people fall victim as a result of poor sanitary conditions, caused by a civil war that will rage epidemics of plague and cholera. Global climate change in turn causes health problems of another kind. Especially in Africa and Asia, but also in some areas of Europe more intense solar radiation produced upon the skins of both humans and animals in the form of tumors.

After 2018, another strange disease will kill hundreds of thousands of human lives in U.S., Europe, Asia. The infected person easily gets ill by normal diseases such as colds, as their organism, is unable to deal with them. Death usually arrives within three days. (Ganesh Babu Sastri called the disease by an English acronym RISC - Rapid Immune System Collapse, the accelerated collapse of the immune system - author’s note) In most cases the disease causes death. After the year 2023 in Europe, some African refugees bring a fatal disease called Kunu. Weak people get a high fever and their internal organs cease to work in a few days. The sickness will be deadly and will spread as fast as flu. But two years before the outbreak of the epidemic, they will discover the parasite worms in the blood. Internal organs get affected, especially the heart and liver; and the infected person dies within a week. This disease is transmitted by animal food.

The biggest disaster happens in 2046. Although unnoticed by astronomers, closer to our planet a planet will approach from the depths of space. This asteroid, whose path in space enters in our solar system, between earth and the Moon, will just miss the earth. Several days before, the asteroid becomes visible in the sky to the naked eye. The gravitational force causes many earthquakes and massive flooding on the earth. California will be affected by its largest earthquake in their entire history. Also Japan and China will be affected by strong earthquakes and large parts these countries will be covered by ocean water. Earthquakes will also affect Europe, mostly Germany, England and the Mediterranean area. Over the coast of Northern and Baltic Sea there is a huge flood wave. In Bohemia a volcano wakes up to life, considered long ago as extinct. Its eruptions will spread far wide. During the eruption there will also be released large amounts of volcanic and poisonous gaseous clouds of condensate rain and the lands will become very corrosive. As a result of the wounds, millions of people will be killed. In affected areas of Central Europe large part of cities will be destroyed.

THE WORLD AFTER 2048

Immediately after this disaster, those who survive will be cleaning up and doing disinfection work, as it will be necessary to remove mountains of corpses human and animal carcasses to avoid new epidemics. There will be a large demand for daily needs that was destroyed or lost, due to natural disasters.

The climate changes in Central Europe will stay permanently. The average annual temperature will remain high and the snow in winter will be only in mountainous areas. For agriculture the change will be advantageous, there will be richer harvest, and yields will increase. The tectonic activity changes the face of the whole Earth. Some coastal areas and islands will disappear permanently below the level of the seas and oceans. Japan will be particularly affected, California, Eastern coast of North America and certain areas of England. At the same time, from the water of the Atlantic Ocean emerges new land. Economic rehabilitation will take place relatively quickly. However the brake will be the lack of primary energy sources, as many of the raw materials will not be easily available.

After this, the economy starts to recover. At that time in Europe a new society will be formed, based on the personal freedom of individuals, which in turn will be linked to the needs of society and to meet its needs. People will learn a lesson by the recent events and becomes aware that selfish motives can endanger the very existence of the whole community. A new society will spread from the Atlantic coast to the east coast of Asia; and each of the areas, however, retain their own characteristics. All regional matters will be decided by local governments without having to wait for the authorization of a remote authority.

The new constitution will guarantee all citizens of a Eurasian Union, external safety and internal sovereignty. The economic base of the new society will be a non-interest financial system which will be tested and then permanently established in year 2048. [Note: Arab Bank lends money interest-free now, because the Koran forbids taking interest; banks instead of account only for fees for processing the loan conditions and accounting. Incidentally, the Bible also prohibits lending money at interest.]

The prosperity of the new society will be maintained by the use of a particular kind of an alternative energy source. This source was discovered in Europe and studied the beginning of the 20th century, but its practical wide application comes now. This energy will be named after its discoverer. This energy does not harm the environment as previously used energy sources. It will also be available to almost an unlimited extent and its use will be free. Soil and water resources will not be kept as private properties. People will realize that no one can claim proprietorship for something that already previously existed. However, everyone will have the right to have ownership of a house, whether bought or built.

After 2049 people will have knowledge that they are not alone in the universe. Repairing the damage caused by natural disasters in Europe and the Middle East, artifacts will be found, which will clearly demonstrate to the public their extraterrestrial origin. This discovery will have far-reaching impact on religious and philosophical systems. The period since 2049 bears a sign of a new beginning, a spiritually-oriented age forthcoming Satya-yuga.

Distributed via the internet by Thomas Ritter -
Prophecies of Europe / Libraries from Palm Leaves
[From the German original: “Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas”]
Translated by: George Vodvárka. Pub. Jochen Kopp, Rottenburg (2006),
www.dialog-lhc.cz • e-mail: knihy@dialog-lhc.cz
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Whether or not the above predictions are reliable, I cannot say, except where the coincide with Shrila Prabhupada’s prophetic description of a mini-Satya Yuga, the worldwide spread of Krishna consciousness. They are passed along to you as a matter of general interest in order to stimulate your understanding of the great need for devotees to find a safe environment in the coming crises. What we know is that the cities and the artificially-created oil-dependent “prosperity” must come to an end, and end – sooner rather than later. Alongside these harsh realities, shadow governments are vying for world domination using so-called elected “fall-guys” to play “world leaders”

Peace

[spizella]

http://wespenre.com/2/obsession-with-prophecy-fulfillment.htm


So, what we can expect in the future depends on us rather than those who are working on manifesting things we don't want. Timelines split and merge all the time, and we all live in slightly different Multiverses, and in the future, not all of us will live in the same reality; not even the same version of Earth. If enough people give energy to a Machine World, it is certainly going to manifest for those people, or it's even enough to do nothing and we will all end up in this android world. But there will be others who will manifest other realities, where being controlled by machines is not an option, and by changing and building a new timeline without having extraterrestrial control over our lives, we will incrementally create a world without negative influences from power-hungry entities. The purpose of my papers is to present the common part of the Multiverse we humans, as a soul group -- as a mass consciousness -- are living in currently, and present different choices we have. It is not up to me to decide for others which choice they are going to make; each one is their own master and has the right to choose whatever they want. But I also want to present the potential consequences of the decisions we make. In some instances, the consequences are a good and happy life and a journey which is leading to the stars, while on other occasions, the consequences are harsh, at least in the long run. Those who choose the latter need to ponder if they are willing to take those consequences or not. If they are, it's their choice, but I want them to walk into them fully knowing what they're doing to self and others. So those who don't want to know should stop reading here, because the next couple of papers will tell more about the serious consequences of choosing to put energy towards certain timelines, and it is quite shocking. I know some people will still choose to do that anyway, even with adequate knowledge, by simply continue doing nothing, and I can't do anything about that, nor is it my task to do so. Many of those who will choose the Machine World in spite of warnings are those who don't want to believe what they're reading. They may think it's interesting, but they have no wish to change. I just want to make sure I have covered everything I can think of is relevant for people to know, for the sake of the future of humanity. That is my task and my mission in this life.

[Billy]

Hello to everyone who ventures in here :sun:

I have an update involving the Naadi Shastra, which is a very uplifting spiritual experience I encountered when in India recently when I met what I would term, A very gifted spiritual person. which I would like to share. My first thought is, how the heck do I express such a wonderful overwhelming experience into the written word ? Therefore I am just going to give it a try.

Some history first.
Much of my experiences with the Naadi Shastra is already mentioned within this thread, but I have to repeat some of it to bring you up to date.

It was just over 11yrs ago in early January 2005 that I received my full reading containing 14 chapters. This was just after the devastating earthquake and tsunami that hit Asia on the 24th Dec 2004. When my chapters were being read to me, I was told about some possible future events that could come my way. One such event manifested itself while in India earlier this year.

I shall share what was said 11yrs ago exactly as it was given to me. The English interpretation is not the best.

Quote from reading.

After the age of 59 you will have the blessings of great spiritual person, again there are chances for you to go to Tiruvanamalai, which is in Tamil-Nadu, there you will meet a spiritual saint and you shall receive this blessing.
After that you will see more changes in your life, you will be very happy after that.
You will have contacts with many great persons, you will receive some spiritual powers. Like you will have power of your speech. End Quote :

My last visit to India was in 2006 when I was 51yrs old, I have tried to return many times during the last 10yrs but was unable due to mostly family matters but also due to the economic collapse in 2009 when I lost my job and then my home at that time. My father died of leukimia in 2013 (see post 23 above) and my mother soon went downhill and developed Alzheimer's disease, I then moved in with my mother to be her full time carer until she had to be admitted to a full time care home mid 2015. After she was settled and content with her new home I realised I could now take my first holiday abroad in 10yrs, I purchased a ticket for India in Nov 2015 for a flight in early Jan this year. Myself now being 61yrs old.

I arrived in Mumbai on the 10th Jan and visited the Naadi family as they stay not far from the airport, this was to enquire about an additional 15th chapter that they said I was yet to receive, which they said was very rare and I would hear it "when the time was right", I received this chapter in full on my return visit 10 weeks later and was one of the most bazaar readings I have ever experienced in my life. And I have had a few in my time. But this is not what I am going to talk about at this time, as it was so out there that I have decided to shelve it,
They did ask if I was going to return to Tiruvanamalai, I said yes this is my intention. They replied. With some effort from yourself, you can make this happen. They gave me some instructions to carry out that would help, this involved temple work. I was to learn how to perform puja and research Sri Vashista which is their guru and receiver of the Naadi Shastra. When I reached my first destination in Gokarna, I carried out both instructions.
As luck would have it, I have a friend of 16yrs who is a priest and guardian of a private Shiva temple in Gokarna, he allowed me to have a one to one lessons on how to perform puja, I managed to buy a book titled, Yoga Vasistha, the supreme Yoga.

When I arrived in Gokarna I managed to rent a delightful farm house, I stayed there 5 weeks. I met some lovely folks there. One guy from Chicago named Neil, we ended up spending most our travels together as you will see as I continue. Another guy from Canada who was a teacher of science in India. He had lived there for 15yrs and was on a holiday break in Gokarna. He had had experience with the Naadi Shastra so I was delighted when we shared our experiences. When I mentioned that the Naadi had said that I was born in Tiruvanamalai in my last life and that I was heading there on a mission to see if there was a living saint there. He replied that this is his also his home town and where he teaches science. I said, Oh wow, maybe you can tell me if such a person exists there today. He said that there are two possibilities. But doubted I would be able to see either of them. One was Lakshmana Swami, but he is 96yrs old and never leaves his Ashram and does not see people, the other name was Sri Shiva Shakti Ammaiyar. But she only comes out very occasionally and has a vow of silence. I noted both names in my note book.

I am going to halt there for now and continue tomorrow when I begin my journey to Tiruvanamalai and my encounter with Shiva Shakti.

Some pictures of Gokarna.
The house where I stayed for 5 weeks. And the beach nearby.
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The private temple I mentioned and carried out the instructions and a thousand year old Shiva Chariot with new wheels just fitted.
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:bowing:

Edit: I give my apologies, tomorrow has come and my daughter, her partner and my grandson have returned from a holiday in Spain. Family catching up to do. I shall continue when everything has settled down again. :bearhug:

[Billy]

Continued: part 2.

I left Gokarna on the 19th of Feb 2016. My friend Neil headed to Tiruvanamalai ahead of me as I wanted to travel via Hampi to visit the cave paintings first. I shared this exciting experience on another thread. Here.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89076-5-000yr-old-cave-painting-of-alien-craft-in-Hampi-India.

After 3 days In Hampi i then headed to Tiruvanamalai in the state of Tamil-Nadu, the town where the Naadi said I was born in my previous life, a 26hr train journey. I arrived at 4am on the 24th Feb. The dates become significant, as I shall explain later. I loved this town years before I had my encounter with the Naadi.
I found myself a lovely room and settled in at the foot of the holy mountain named Arunachala which is also near the famous Bhagavan Sri Ramana Ashram. I reconnected with Neil who stayed in a hotel 2mins walk from me. We took a stroll through the little back streets as we chatted as to how I may enquire as to where I could find where Lacshamana Swami and Shiva Shakti lived, as we were chatting I said, Oh look, there is Shiva Shakti's house, there was a sign and we were standing right next to it. There was also a notice saying, silent darshan with Shiva Shakti at 10 am every morning. Brilliant news as she was not in retreat and was seeing people, what I did not know at that time, was she had just come out of retreat 2 days before hand. The timing was perfect.:clapping:

The next morning Neil and I arrived at the small Ashram at 9.45 am, we sat down amongst the 30 or so people in silence and waited. At 10 am Shiva Shakti slowly walked into the hall with the most beautiful smile and sat on her wicker chair. She then scanned the room full of people, she then stood up and looked at each person individually for a few seconds, all in silence but using gentle but different hand gestures for each person. I must say her presence was awesome, when she gazed at me she radiated so much love, her smile just melted you. I could feel a new energy rising inside me, I was very impressed and knew then I had met a living saint. But i wondered, was this the one mentioned to me 11yrs ago.? Would I be able to have a one to one with her and receive her personal blessing ? I was yet to find out.

I began researching Shiva Shakti, I like to know who is who and what their story is. I found her website which is run by her helpers.
http://www.sivasakthiammaiyar.com/about_amma.html

She is also known as the silent one, she headed to a holy mountain and was silent for many years. she has visions, her hair was never cut and was 12ft long until she cut it in 2009. She had a vision of a shooting star one month before it appeared over Scotland, she said if this star had appeared in the south it would have been a bad omen but because it appeared in the north it was a good omen.


Time for you all to see Shiva Shakti. :heart:

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Neil did not return as he was more attached to the Ramana Ashram and always had been. But I returned the next two mornings for the group meetings before I asked Shiva's son Velan if his mother ever held a private meeting on a one to one, he replied, not often but can be arranged if she is fine with it, along with a donation to the Ashram. Which I was expecting and willing to do, but was a little taken aback when he said 4.000rp, he saw my expression and said, if that is to much we can reduce it to 3.000. = £30. But he still had to ask his mum and I said I would think about it and we would meet next morning. I had already decided within myself that this was all acceptable, but other people I met there thought it was to much. But after asking the Mods over Skype what they thought. All said, Go for it. Thank you, my decision was made. :thumbsup:

I also want to say just how supportive Bill Ryan has been all through my travels in India. He was enquiring everyday for updates which I gladly shared in real time as everything was unfolding, He was truly interested, i felt like he was traveling with me, he was there for me at any moment, gave me encouragement, he cared and I am forever grateful Bill. And I know you do the same for many others. You are a great man with a huge heart. :bowing:

The next morning after darshan, Velan said all was fine for a personal meeting with Shiva Shakti, the appointment was made in three days time after the morning darshan.

A photo of the shooting star that she had a vision of.

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One of the group meeting at silent darshan.

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Shiva Shakti enters for morning darshan.

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Break time, I shall continue later.

[Billy]

Continued, part 3.

Before my meeting with Shiva Shakti I managed to get a printed glossy coloured copy of the shooting star to take as a gift for her. I wrapped it in silk and tied it with a silk bow. Which I then inserted a flower into. :flower:

On the 3rd of March after the morning darshan, Velan came to meet me and we headed upstairs for my meeting. He reminded me to be silent and there would be no physical contact. He said there would be a cushion on the floor for me to sit on. He left me as I entered the room, Shiva Shakti was sitting on a chair with her beautiful smile, she gestured with her hand to sit. I gave a respectful bow and sat down. I laid the gift down on the marble floor.

She began scanning me with her amazing piercing eyes, I knew she was reading me. Gently smiling at all times. I was looking straight back with a huge grin on my face. She then took her gaze away from me and I thought at first she was silently praying, but her pupils all of a sudden rose up into her head and disappeared altogether, only the whites of her eyes were visible, then she was gone, into a deep trance. The smile had gone, more like someone in a coma. This lasted longer than I expected, well maybe a few minutes but it felt like a long time.

Then she returned, her smile was even bigger, she was truly radiant. My first thought was, Ah now she knows why I came. She began scanning me again but this time she was not reading but giving,
She touched her own heart then gestured with her hand that she was giving it to me. She done similar hand gestures. I began to feel a warm tingling energy rise up from my gut. Before I knew it my hands were cupped in a receiving gesture, right hand over left hand outstretched. I closed my eyes.

Then it happened, the energy I was feeling rose into my forehead. It began like a pulse beating slowly, then a quick flickering. It was so profound I thought if anyone was watching they would be able to see my forehead beating like a heart beat. I opened my eyes and she gave a "don't be concerned look" well I was more overwhelmed than concerned. As it felt like my third eye was going to explode.

She then returned to her calming smiling way. She nodded and held her hand to her chest, I knew then that my encounter with Shiva Shakti had ended. Or had it just began, as I found out later.
I struggled to rise up, I felt woosy, I gave a bow and staggered out onto the balcony, I closed her door and had to sit down right there trying to compose myself with my breathing. Just the Velan returned, I tried to get up, but he just said loudly, Sit, be still. Which I did for a while.

After a few minutes I was fine, I gave Velan the money, and I thought then that it was a nice gesture that he did not ask for payment before hand. There was trust there and I appreciated that. I was heading downstairs when he ran after me with paper and pen in hand, he asked me to write down my name and say what the gift was that I left. I did this and left with my forehead still beating. She had touched me with no physical contact and no words. Something was happening inside.

The evening before my friend Neil had asked me to drop in to see him after the session, our intention was to head for breakfast together. I had to pass his place on my way to my place. But I was lost for words. I knew I would not be able to speak at that time, or eat. But I had become so dehydrated and he was the closest for a drink of water. I arrived and he was doing his morning meditation on his roof. He got up with a, hey Billy how did it go. I just stared at him speechless. He caught on straight away. Got a chair for me. I used hand gestures for water and off he went. Oh bless him. It took me about another half hour before I could utter a word. And those were. Sorry Neil but I cannot go for breakfast, I have no thoughts of food whatsoever. OK, he said. Let us just go for a walk into the Ramana Ashram gardens, it is quiet and the Gardens are beautiful. So off we went.

By the time we arrived there I had become so elated that I could not stop talking. I was flying guys. Neil was laughing at me so much. :ROFL: I told him everything that had happened and that my forehead still felt like it was expanding so much, it felt like it was going to explode. After a while he needed breakfast, we both left, he went to eat and I went to my room. I then shared all the above with Bill and the Mods. Still overwhelmed i shed my first joyful tear while doing that. :p :bearhug:

After that I wanted to head back to the Gardens to be with nature again, I arrived and sat down on a wall in a secluded quiet area. But I soon had company. A peacock followed me to the wall and sat at my feet. Next thing I have two monkeys sitting on either side of me. And then to top that, butterfly's arrived and were flying all around me. And my third eye was stll popping. :heart:


I am having a moment so I shall stop there, there is more, but another time. :bowing:

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I had my tablet with me and I took a short video of the peacock following me until it arrived at my feet. But then switched it off and put it away when the monkeys arrived as they have a habit of snatching things and running off with them. Plus I thought, I am just going to enjoy this moment. Which I did enjoy immensely.

As the first day of my encounter was ending, 10 hrs later I still had no appetite, but forced down a snack in the evening. I became very tired and lay down, then awoke at 3am with the biggest thirst ever. With my previous experience in Bosnia of a similar nature in 1985, i knew that dehydration was also a sign of the effects of being touched by something supernatural, My forehead still felt prominent with expanding pressure. With no water at hand I headed out and eventually found a stall that sold water and freshly made Masala Chai. Bliss. :clapping:


A screen shot from the short video of the peacock and one of the monkeys as they approached. Then the peacock came to me.

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I shall continue the final sharing in a new post. :heart:

[Billy]

Continued, part 4.

I returned to the morning silent darshan and after it was finished Shiva Shakti's son Velan approached me to say that when his mum opened the gift, she knew exactly what it was and held it to her chest, and communicated to him that Shiva had sent me to her. Although she knew nothing about me, this was true, as it was Shiva who gave the Naadi Shastra to the Rishis and the sages almost two thousand years ago and it was my experience with the Naadi 11yrs previously that predicted this meeting. Velan also gifted me a photo of his mother at this time that I shared earlier.

As the day progressed, I began to experience a new sensation. My third eye still felt same. But then I had multi colours flickering at the sides of my eyes. Out of the sight of my vision. It was like a kaleidoscope of rainbow colours. Blue, purple, yellow, green, but if I tried to squint my eyes to look at them, they would disappear, only when I looked straight ahead would would return. This continued for many days. When I researched this online, the general medical advise was to "get your eyes tested" but when I searched adding, spiritual experience, it said this was connected to an opening to the third eye but also a sign of seeing into the spirit world. And this is what the experience felt like to me. When it was happening, I was perceiving things from a different realm. At those moments, trees and people, in fact everything appeared different. Everything was shimmering. I loved the sensation. :bigsmile:

On day three after my meeting I again returned to the morning session. Shiva Shakti did her usual walking around gazing at everyone present. She would normally gaze for just a few seconds at each person. But this morning when it was my turn, she gazed and smiled at me, for what felt like an eternity. I normally just smiled and gazed back. But I became quite embarrassed and took my gaze away and lowered my head for maybe a minute, and when I thought she must have moved on now. I lifted my head and she was still gazing at me. Then I noticed that everyone in the room were now also watching her watching me. Jeez I could feel my face turn red :blushing:, she gave a huge smile then moved on.

When that session ended and we all gathered outside, there was always a cart that sold young coconuts for drinking coconut water, I bought one and two females from Israel who were there approached me and both said in unison, "Well, what was all that about ?"
I said, " I am not sure " then i began to explain why I had come, the Naadi and my personal meeting with Shiva two days before hand. But i then noticed a crowd had gathered around and were listening intently. Which embarrassed me again. The two girls asked if they could hear more later. We ended up being great friends and Neil and i spent the rest of our time with them. Going for walks up the holy mountain them, until everyone left that place. I am still in touch with them today. But I am still not sure what Shiva Shakti was playing at. All I know is that every time I was in her presence and afterwards, I felt so uplifted and my forehead continued to pulse along with the lovely colours.

I intended to continue to visit the morning silent meetings until I left. But a few days before I left after the meeting, Shiva Shakti's son came into the meeting and announced that his mother would be taking rest for a while, therefore there would be no more meetings until further notice. I found out just a few days ago that almost four months later, she is still taking rest and the meetings have not continued. Do you remember I said earlier that she only began seeing people two days before I arrived, then she stopped seeing people a few days before I left. Therefore my timing was perfect for that window to be open.

I said to her son straight after his announcement, I want you to say thank you to your mother. She has given me something and I am not sure what yet. And I want to say that I am going to miss her presence, I said I was to leave in a few days.
He replied. You have made the connection and from now on, all you have to do is think about her and she will know and be there for you.

Well that was such good news for me to hear. Since my return home I think about her every day and I put time aside to make that connection and wish her well :heart:

I think i have now shared everything concerning my encounter with Shiva Shakti through the Naadi. :grouphug::bearhug:

Some pictures of Tiruvanamalai.
A view of the holy mountain Arunachala, taken from my rooftop. The main Shiva temple.

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Inside the Gardens of the Ramana Ashram. Inside the main Shiva temple.

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[Bill Ryan]

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To Billy:

:star::star::star::star::star: (and maybe more!) for sharing this wonderful story. :bearhug:

[Eva2]

This has all been such a fascinating read for me - thank you for sharing it.

[Mike]

Bump!

I'd never heard of the Naadi Shastra in my life till last night. It was mentioned on Coast to Coast. I was absolutely intrigued.

And then I was synchronistically directed here by Bill today, only to be exposed to the Naadi Shastra again. I think I have to pursue it!

How I missed this wonderful thread back in 2013 is anyone's guess. Billy, what an amazing story you've shared here. I'm so impressed by you and your adventurous, unstoppable spirit. What a beautiful story. Thank you so much for sharing my friend.:clapping:

[Mike]

Here's a link to the Coast to Coast show titled 'Mystical India' (I'm operating from my phone and hope I've successfully done this) that I listened to couple nights ago.

British medium Craig Hamilton-Parker is featured here and discusses the Naadi Shastra quite a bit during this interview. Fyi he comes on during the second half of the show.

https://youtu.be/NkS2MGuSSqk

[Billy]

Darn. Mike, The video has taken down and the Utube account terminated. :facepalm:

[Mike]

Darn. Mike, The video has taken down and the Utube account terminated. :facepalm:



Hey Billy, I've just edited my post to include a functional link.:):)

[Bill Ryan]

The 13 Jan 2018 Coast to Coast show (the second half, on Mystical India, with Craig Hamilton-Parker), is now here:


http://avalonlibrary.net/Coast_to_Coast_Craig_Hamilton-Parker_Mystical_India_13_January_2018.mp3 (1 hr 16 mins, 48.5 Mb)

From the Coast to Coast website (https://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2018/01/13):




Craig Hamilton-Parker discussed a journey to India where he encountered the 10,000-year-old "Naadi Oracle" that holds mind-boggling secrets, written on a series of palm leaves.

Each "oracle" tells a story of a life and the story must be matched to the person seeking advice. Hamilton-Parker sent all of his personal information anonymously, so that there was no chance that "readers" who would match him to his leaf could have any clues about his life.

He was amazed at the accuracy of what was read back to him, including things which only he knew, and that "not a single thing said was wrong." The Oracle also revealed future events in his life, such as the day of his death, which he says "can make you fearless."

Based on his reading, Hamilton-Parker went to India to perform a series of spiritual and charitable tasks, which he says may increase your lifespan, according to the Oracle. Ultimately though, he believes that life’s journey is done "when we become the journey."

[norman]

It might be my 'old computer troubles' but that mp3 file link doesn't work for me.





From Bill: My apologies. It definitely works now.
:thumbsup:




edit:YAY ! now it is


Later: Amazing. The Diana part got me wondering about remote viewing. It seems very similar. The Oracle part is slightly frightening, for me. I wonder if it's really about choosing to go into a life of profound event entanglement, and possibly, in a round about way, manipulative and even ( black ) majik.

[Billy]

Darn. Mike, The video has taken down and the Utube account terminated. :facepalm:



Hey Billy, I've just edited my post to include a functional link.:):)

Just to let everyone know, I have been back in India for over a week. I plan to be here for 4 months this visit. :p

Thanks for posting this interview Mike. And Bill for converting it into an MP3, it was easier for me to listen with the MP3 as the video kept buffering. Off course was interested to actually hear someone else's experience with Naadi Shastra. I began listening at midnight last night thinking I would just listen to a small part before going to sleep but Craig's passion and enthusiasm got to me, so I listened to the whole interview.

I did think he got some things wrong. For example. If they do find you after the identification process, which has to be 100% correct. Then everyone has 14 chapters, not 7 as Craig said.
I am not sure why he named it an oracle ? Naadi Shastra translated means palm leaf astrology. It involves the science of astrology and your destiny revolves around the positioning of the planets at time of birth and their movements thereafter. I was privileged enough to have a 15th chapter read to me which I mentioned above when i was last here two years ago. So 7 chapters is not correct.

I also find it hard to believe that they found his leaves with only his thumb print without at least giving him his date of birth. Names are not important, but time of birth is. The Naadi believe like others, that there were originally 12 tribes. the individuals thumb print connects you to your tribe or soul family. To find your personal leaves with only a thumb print with what I have experienced I think is impossible. But I may be wrong.

The origin of the written leaves came from Shiva and his second wife Parvati who instructed the Rishis (Sages) through divine intervention how to write the records of the future lives of certain individuals. See the OP of this thread for info.

Apart from the above, I loved listening to Craig's experience. It was very similar to my experience. So I thank him for sharing.

After 15 yrs of involvement with my Naadi Family. I dropped in to visit them when I arrived last week to say many thanks and farewell as I think I have completed my wonderful Naadi experience. They asked if I would send them my testimony and they said. We will see you again. :ROFL:

[Scalp_id]

Billy
Glad that you came across the Nadi Shashtra here in India.
Just wanted to say that the Saptarishis change every Manvantara, Nadi Shashtra is a follow up of one the first recored Vedic Shashtras-Bhrigu Samhita , the methodology is a bit different in the former.
It was wonderful to read your story and its remarkableness.

Cheers.

[Nenuphar]

I just discovered this thread today. What a fascinating read! Thank you very much, Billy, for sharing your experiences here. :)

[Billy]

Billy
Glad that you came across the Nadi Shashtra here in India.
Just wanted to say that the Saptarishis change every Manvantara, Nadi Shashtra is a follow up of one the first recored Vedic Shashtras-Bhrigu Samhita , the methodology is a bit different in the former.
It was wonderful to read your story and its remarkableness.

Cheers.

Thank you for for your comment Scalp. Yes I understand a little concerning the cycles of times and the Yuga's. Maybe you could expand a little more on your comment to help us understand better. Thank you kindly.

[The Moss Trooper]

Billy,

so happy to hear you are where you should be. Know that you journey not alone, that many of us are with you, at all times.

Think of me when the 'Place' determines, for I shall think of you.

[Billy]

Billy,

so happy to hear you are where you should be. Know that you journey not alone, that many of us are with you, at all times.

Think of me when the 'Place' determines, for I shall think of you.

That is good to know my Friend. I shall surely think about you. I am in the process of doing some training in a private temple on a one to one with my friend a Brahman Priest. Quite an honour for a westerner, You know something. You guys are just awesome. :bowing:

[Billy]

My friend from Scotland arrived yesterday to stay with me here in India for a few days, she arrived just in time for us both to witness the super blue blood moon eclipse. Wow it was spectacular.
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[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Billy! Hope we will be getting some more terrific pictures of things in India! The ones you sent before are simply amazing & it proves there was a very accomplished civilization there at one time! :star::star:

[Billy]

As we build up to the Shiva festival named Shivaratri on 13th February. They have now pulled out Shiva's mother ship from the hanger. Known as Shiva's flying chariot or vamana, today they now begin to build it up over the next six days. This chariot is between 1000 and 1500 yrs old depending who tells you their version of the history. Two years ago when I was here last they had just fitted new wheels onto the chariot. Crowds of men, woman and children pull the chariot through the street singing and dancing on the festival days.

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I will post photos of the progress as they built it over the next few days.

[Billy]

Day two.

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My friend stands next to the wheel.

[Foxie Loxie]

Oh WOW! Thank you! Amazing! :sun:

[Billy]

Work continues on Shiva's flying chariot after a couple of days break. No nails or screws are used, only rope that is entwined on site and wooden pegs.

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[Billy]

Today the painted panels are put in place.

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[Billy]

The Flying Chariot is now complete in all its glory.

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The next stage is the Chariot in motion on Friday 16th, that is when the fun begins. :sun: :bowing:

[Hervé]

Interesting... I never considered these religious traditions as the results of ancient "Cargo Cults (https://yandex.com/images/search?text=cargo%20cult&stype=image&lr=105064&noreask=1&source=wiz)" yet, that's what they strongly seem to be...

[Agape]

Interesting... I never considered these religious traditions as the results of ancient "Cargo Cults (https://yandex.com/images/search?text=cargo%20cult&stype=image&lr=105064&noreask=1&source=wiz)" yet, that's what they strongly seem to be...


Ancient Indian Aircraft an Agenda of Major Science Conference (https://www.cnet.com/news/ancient-indian-aircraftspaceship-on-agenda-of-major-science-conference/)

Could be of some interest ...

Not many scholars out of India got a good or precise information about the content, quality and age of Tamil and Sanskrit scriptures , Vedas , Puranas, the Brahmanas and so forth.
Historically , this obscurantion occurred mostly due to Muslim invasions and suppression of Hindu culture , later the same effect was successfully replicated by the British,
who did not understand the language and lowered Indian culture to that of primitive savages .

There’s no single source to the Vedas and old cults of India either .

It seems that advanced knowledge was contained and preserved on the subcontinent , passed from lost continent of Lemuria ( Tamil based script ) and from the North of continent ( Sanskrit based ),
dating to Times before last ice age and beyond tens of thousands of years.

[Foxie Loxie]

How beautiful!!! Thanks for sharing, Billy! :flower:

[Alanantic]

Like many, I just "found" myself here and I'm overwhelmed!

[Billy]

Some pictures taken on the 16th Feb on the build up to the grand finale of Shiva's flying chariot being pulled through the streets.
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[Foxie Loxie]

So much "history" we know nothing of!! It is wonderful to see these people keeping alive what has been handed down for generations! :flower:

[Billy]

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I have video footage of the grand finale, but unable to post it in here directly from my tablet. To night I leave this wonderful holy place and move on to my next destination.

[Mike]

Thanks for the updates Billy and the cool pics! Hope we can see that video some day..

Enjoy the rest of your journey my friend:sun:

[Cognitive Dissident]

Thanks Billy for such an amazing story! Especially the connections between your most recent past life in India and your current life.

I also have a strong connection with India, including a deep interest in Vedic astrology - interestingly I much prefer the square configuration of the chart, which is used in the south, rather than the diamond configuration which is used in the north. I have been told that I was a temple astrologer in a recent past life, which must be in the south, although I don't know where exactly.

I have visited the south before a long time ago, and actually found my Naadi leaves, but I can't find whatever notes I made and can only remember a few things. I think the place was in Chennai or nearby, but I could be mistaken.

Do you have the update details for the people that you read your leaves with? The previous link doesn't work anymore: http://www.naadishastra.com/about.html

Many thanks and enjoy your stay in India!

[Billy]

Thanks Billy for such an amazing story! Especially the connections between your most recent past life in India and your current life.

I also have a strong connection with India, including a deep interest in Vedic astrology - interestingly I much prefer the square configuration of the chart, which is used in the south, rather than the diamond configuration which is used in the north. I have been told that I was a temple astrologer in a recent past life, which must be in the south, although I don't know where exactly.

I have visited the south before a long time ago, and actually found my Naadi leaves, but I can't find whatever notes I made and can only remember a few things. I think the place was in Chennai or nearby, but I could be mistaken.

Do you have the update details for the people that you read your leaves with? The previous link doesn't work anymore: http://www.naadishastra.com/about.html

Many thanks and enjoy your stay in India!

Thank you C.D, sorry for the delay in responding, I have been traveling around South India and I am now settled for the next few weeks.
I did a search and see that the Naadi center I visited has a new website. This is the link.
http://www.naadishastra.com/about-us.php#about-naadi

I have update the link in the OP also. :thumbsup:


My home for the next few weeks. Living around the base of the mystical mountain of Arunachala. :sun:

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[Billy]

Ancient Indian Aircraft an Agenda of Major Science Conference (https://www.cnet.com/news/ancient-indian-aircraftspaceship-on-agenda-of-major-science-conference/)

Could be of some interest ...

Not many scholars out of India got a good or precise information about the content, quality and age of Tamil and Sanskrit scriptures , Vedas , Puranas, the Brahmanas and so forth.
Historically , this obscurantion occurred mostly due to Muslim invasions and suppression of Hindu culture , later the same effect was successfully replicated by the British,
who did not understand the language and lowered Indian culture to that of primitive savages .

There’s no single source to the Vedas and old cults of India either .

It seems that advanced knowledge was contained and preserved on the subcontinent , passed from lost continent of Lemuria ( Tamil based script ) and from the North of continent ( Sanskrit based ),
dating to Times before last ice age and beyond tens of thousands of years.

Thank you for this comment Agape, it has inspired me to share a very rare book that my friend found in a private library when she visited me in Gokarna. She handed me the book and said, I think this may interest you Billy. When I read the front cover, I was very excited to read further.

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I am actually wondering if this deserves it's own thread. But i will post in here for the time being.

The library itself has an interesting story around it's creation. The owner of the library at one time had his own private collection stored in his home. He is 92 yrs old now and bed ridden. Two French journalist discovered him and his astounding collection of books. When they returned back home they decided to raise some funds to build him a library so that his collection could be preserved and people could have access to read and research some of his rare books.
The library.
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He even has his own collection of Naadi leaves. Excuse the reflection from the glass cases.

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I asked his son who is attempting to continue with the library if I could borrow the Sphinx Speaks book. But he said he could not as it was an important rare reference book, I pleaded with him with a promise of it's safe return before I left in 9 days time and offered a deposit. He replied, ok I trust you. No deposit required but please return the book. :clapping:

The book was published in 1963 by Dr. Jwala Prasad Singhal. After some searching I found out it was out of print and not available in any form on the internet. I read with interest but did not have time to finish the book before I had to hand it back. So I decided after talking to Bill and the Mods that I should try and have it digitally copied in a PDF format. Which after a struggle, i managed to do.

The book is now safe in the Avalon Library.
http://projectavalon.net/lib/Dr%20Jwala%20Prasad%20Singhal%20-%20The%20Sphinx%20Speaks.pdf

I have to head out, I will talk a little about the books content later on a new post. :sun:

[Billy]

The Sphinx Speaks is a book written by one Dr. Jwala Prasad Singhal and published in 1963.

Dr Jwala has his own theories and interpretations which some may not agree with. I just suggest he is worthy of some time and consideration.

Dr Jwala covers the movement of ancient civilisations before and after the great floods, (<-- plural) which include the Aryans, Summerians, Egyptians, Kasspii, Hyrcanians, Maya's, Incas, Toltecs, Nagas, Gandharvas, Devatas and more.
He also covers the movement of the earths crust, the raising of the Himalayas in different stages that resulted in the draining of the great sea, the Tethy's sea, that existed between what is now North India and South India. Which then flooded and sank the great southern continent, South India before the upheaval was part of Lumuria or the great continent of Gondwanaland.
Quote:
Ch11. During the Cretaceous period the India Peninsula yet formed an integral part of the great Gondwana continent, which was still more or less a continuous land mass stretching from Africa to Australia and even South America.
Geologists have confirmed the existence of this land mass and say it was either a continuous southern continent land or was connected by land bridges or Ishmian links which extended from south America to India. And united within the same borders the Malay Archipelago and Australia.
The continent was called Lumuria.

Map in book.
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Apart from quoting references from Geologists, science and historians, What is interesting is that Dr Jwala also refers to the Vedas, mostly the Riveda's (composed before the flood)and the Purana's.(composed after the flood) it takes some effort to get into his mindset. After chapter 7 things become reprative on purpose as he was asked to print more details of his sources and research. This part gave me a better understanding of the scriptures he was referring to.

He believes that advanced civilisations and stone age cave dwellers lived along side each other and were not always the best of neighbours. That North India and South India were at one time two different continents. Hence what Agape was referring to. North India had the Sanskrit based script and South India had the Tamil based script. He follows the trail of different belief systems moving across continents from India to Africa and to south America. The Sun worshippers and the Nagas, the snake or serpent worshippers.

I think it is a wee gem of a book, enjoy. :sun:

http://projectavalon.net/lib/Dr%20Jwala%20Prasad%20Singhal%20-%20The%20Sphinx%20Speaks.pdf

[Foxie Loxie]

WOW! Thanks SO MUCH, Billy!! To have this book in the Avalon Library is SO special!! :Party:

[Keajran]

Amazing story! Thanks for sharing Billy.

Has anyone else contacted http://www.naadishastra.com for a reading, and if so what was your experience?

[Eva2]

' I also find it hard to believe that they found his leaves with only his thumb print without at least giving him his date of birth. Names are not important, but time of birth is. The Naadi believe like others, that there were originally 12 tribes. the individuals thumb print connects you to your tribe or soul family. To find your personal leaves with only a thumb print with what I have experienced I think is impossible. But I may be wrong.'

I just noticed this quote in your message. From my personal experience, I did not submit a date/time of birth nor give my name. The person in North America who facilitated my id process/reading with the centre in Tamil Nadu only provided the "reader" with my thumbprint and the place of birth for both my parents. They were able to find my leaves with just this information and during the identification process confirmed my name, date of birth, parents' names, etc. I've already experienced some of the more "unfavourable" predictions which gives me hope that some of the future "happier" events will come to pass :). Anyway, just to say, that perhaps different styles are used, depending on the region or "training" received. I also did not receive past life readings at that time as apparently this was not relevant or did not impact my present/future reading.

I should add that I have only experienced one reading and do not have the comprehensive familiarity and understanding that you have with this subject.

[Eva2]

Amazing story! Thanks for sharing Billy.

Has anyone else contacted http://www.naadishastra.com for a reading, and if so what was your experience?

Kejaranhybrid, I've been rereading this thread again since I find it so interesting. I did have a reading done with someone else about a year and a half ago and was quite impressed, especially as some of the predictions have recently come to pass. Anyway, being curious about the 14 chapters, I decided to contact Vashista Naadi Centre and have one more reading. I wanted to see if anything new or different came through. However, a word of caution and advice - if you can avoid it, do not send your request through email. They seem to be very cavalier with one's personal information. I sent an email which included my full name, dob, thumbprints and a bit of a narrative with my request. Their email response appears to have a bulk distribution which included all the requests that, I expect, were received that day - a stream of client emails and Vashista's responses to their requests for readings as well. I'm certainly not pleased that a lot of strangers now have access to my personal info and I'm definitely not feeling comfortable about having a reading with them. I'm not sure what to do at this point. I'll need to have a good think about this first.

[kanishk]

on 22nd April 2018, I visited a Naadi palm leaf center here in Pune.

I reached their office in the morning. There were 3-4 people there watching Tamil news on TV and talking with each other in Tamil language.

I was unsure in which language I should talk to, English, Hindi or Marathi as I dont know Tamil. I started talking in Marathi. Looking at the blank faces of people there I understood that most of them dont understand Marathi. And they nodded to one person to go talk to me. He spoke to me in Hindi. I again talked to him in Marathi but he replied to me in Hindi, so he only knew how to speak in Hindi.

He took my thumb prints on a small paper and wrote down my date of birth and name in Tamil and gave that to another person. That person went inside and after 20 minutes he asked me to come inside a room.

There are two books of Nadi leafs on the table. He read them in Tamil like a Shloka, similar to how people read Sanskrit texts regularly or are priests. And after each sentence he asked me questions in Hindi. I replied No, as they are not matching. Some leafs he turned without reading them loud as he already knew the answer from me regarding that leaf which is not matching. In both the books no leaf matched with me.

So he said, "how many days before you have taken the appointment?"

I said, "yesterday, before that I inquired about this subject three days ago."

He said, "how can we get the Naadi leafs in such short time. It takes time, your leaf is not found, it takes time to bring the leaf all the way from Chennai."

So I again asked him, "so the leafs are asked from Chennai as per the appointment and all?"

He said, "you know who talked to you over the phone and dont know how did they gave you the day of today, it takes time to bring Nadi books from Chennai to here, we have to first raise a request there and transit also takes time, there is a process for that. Your leaf is not found. We have to bring Nadi leaf related to you. Give me a date when you would like to come."

I opened calendar in my phone, and searched for a date which will be suitable for me. I gave him the date of 12th May 2018.

He wrote that on that piece of paper and wrote the time also of coming. He told me not to take appoint, and that I should directly visit here on this day and at this time with this paper.

He handed over that piece of paper to me. I nodded and came out.

So this was my experience. Day after tomorrow will go there gain, lets see what happens, if my leaf is there to be found or not.

http://www.jeevanaadi.co.in

A interview of a person who opened this center in Pune. I have not met this guy, but he speaks in Marathi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKfqjnN41Hk

In this interview of his in Marathi, he was a fashion designer by profession earlier in life in some European country. His Nadi leaf wrote something about great people thanking him. And ultimately he became a Nadi reader. After he broke from that business, few famous astrologers set him up in this city on Pune so that people in North India can take benefit of Nadi leafs.

[Billy]

Hi again guys. I returned from India after a wonderful 4 months there at the beginning of May. Two days after my return my tablet died and my phone had no data package.
Long story but I am pleased to be back online again.

I have some great experiences to share when I get around to it. I visited the spectacular hand sculpted Ellora and Ajanta temple caves. They absolutely blew my mind. I think they deserve their own thread.

How did your Naadi reading go kanishk ? Do you stay in Pune ? Your avatar says Nagpur and I must have been not far from you when I was in Aurangabad ?
Next time I visit we must meet up for a chai. :bowing:

Jill, my experience over the years in India is that the majority of India folks do not understand the meaning of private or personal. They do not understand the concept and are naturally curious and want to know everything about you. I walked into a house I was renting one day and found my landlord reading my diary. I snatched it from him and told him that was my private diary and that when I rent a house don't expect to come home and find you looking through my stuff.
He looked at me confused because he did not understand but he saw I was annoyed and apologised for days afterwards. :ROFL:

I would send a complaint regarding your personal contact details. You may help them change their views on clients privacy.

[Eva2]

Jill, my experience over the years in India is that the majority of India folks do not understand the meaning of private or personal. They do not understand the concept and are naturally curious and want to know everything about you. I walked into a house I was renting one day and found my landlord reading my diary. I snatched it from him and told him that was my private diary and that when I rent a house don't expect to come home and find you looking through my stuff.
He looked at me confused because he did not understand but he saw I was annoyed and apologised for days afterwards.

I would send a complaint regarding your personal contact details. You may help them change their views on clients privacy.


Thank you Billy. They have sent me several emails and do acknowledge they have a virus but have a very offhand perspective on this - ie, computers get viruses so what can one do sort of attitude. Unfortunately, my personal details have now been exchanged with a string of strangers about 4 or 5 times. They don't seem to understand the full extent and risk of what they have done. They really need to fix that virus and until it is absolutely off their computer, they should have a loud and clear notice on their website that no one should be sending emails to them. I have advised them of this but I'm not sure the message is getting through as they seem very dismissive of this problem and think the problem lies with my "trust issues" . Anyway, this has certainly dampened my enthusiasm for any other readings, at least via email.

Looking forward to reading your next round of experiences.

[kanishk]

How did your Naadi reading go kanishk ? Do you stay in Pune ? Your avatar says Nagpur and I must have been not far from you when I was in Aurangabad ?
Next time I visit we must meet up for a chai. :bowing:



Yes sure, :sun: :coffee:. I have shifted here to Pune now.

Yesterday I went there again third time. My Nadi was found before that when I visited there for the second time i.e. on second last Saturday, 12th May 2018.

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I told at the reception that I have been told to come again today, and gave them the paper with my thumb print and note written by the leaf reader.

After 20 minutes or so I was called inside and the leaf reader started asking questions one by one. He asked me questions like if I am married, looking for someone to get married, doing job in government, brothers sisters, marital status of sister etc. etc.. I was anxious if my leaf will be found or not. In one leaf he asked me if my father's and mother's name's meaning is of Vishnu and Laxmi, I was not sure if the meaning of their name is of Vishnu and Laxmi's name so I told him the exact name. He told me to give answer only in Yes and No. He went on telling/asking me about intimate things, and those are matching, and I have said yes it is right etc. etc.. He noted it down on a paper and asked me to wait outside.

After 5 minutes or so, a guy told me to go inside. There I sat on a table and after few minutes leaf reader brought a customized notebook with my Birthchart written on it, and a audio recorder. I asked him that should I start audio recording in my phone. He said we have it here, we will give you the recording in CD. He told be to ask any questions after the entire leaf reading. He was fluent in translating the leaf directly into Marathi language, as he reads sentences on the leaf. He told me that my name on the leaf is written as Kanik(Kaneek) but it is actually Kanishk (my name literally means a plate, a saucer, vehicle of Vishnu, Garuda, a kushan emperors name who organised second Buddhist conference, a UFO, vehicle of RA as you see in Egyptian hieroglyphs). After that he paused the recording and asked me if I have any query. I asked him if I can take picture of my leaf, that I will be posting in on international forum on internet. He said ok, said that the upper leaf has the details, and below are just paragraphs. I this there's more written on the back side of the lower leaf and the next leaf after that. But I took the picture on this first and second leaf after that as shown in the picture below.

In the reading he told me some remedies and Puja that is charged separately. In the end when I was going to give him the fees, he directed me towards the Puja (a place where all the idols are placed are are worshiped) to put the money there. I asked him where? He said anywhere, so I placed 1100 rupees there.

I sent this picture of my palm leaf to one Tamil friend but he says that it is difficult for him to read the letters correctly, as the picture is blurred on left and right side.

[Billy]

How did your Naadi reading go kanishk ? Do you stay in Pune ? Your avatar says Nagpur and I must have been not far from you when I was in Aurangabad ?
Next time I visit we must meet up for a chai. :bowing:



Yes sure, :sun: :coffee:. I have shifted here to Pune now.

Yesterday I went there again third time. My Nadi was found before that when I visited there for the second time i.e. on second last Saturday, 12th May 2018.

After 5 minutes or so, a guy told me to go inside. There I sat on a table and after few minutes leaf reader brought a customized notebook with my Birthchart written on it, and a audio recorder. I asked him that should I start audio recording in my phone. He said we have it here, we will give you the recording in CD. He told be to ask any questions after the entire leaf reading. He was fluent in translating the leaf directly into Marathi language, as he reads sentences on the leaf. He told me that my name on the leaf is written as Kanik(Kaneek) but it is actually Kanishk (my name literally means a plate, a saucer, vehicle of Vishnu, Garuda, a kushan emperors name who organised second Buddhist conference, a UFO, vehicle of RA as you see in Egyptian hieroglyphs). After that he paused the recording and asked me if I have any query. I asked him if I can take picture of my leaf, that I will be posting in on international forum on internet. He said ok, said that the upper leaf has the details, and below are just paragraphs. I this there's more written on the back side of the lower leaf and the next leaf after that. But I took the picture on this first and second leaf after that as shown in the picture below.

In the reading he told me some remedies and Puja that is charged separately. In the end when I was going to give him the fees, he directed me towards the Puja (a place where all the idols are placed are are worshiped) to put the money there. I asked him where? He said anywhere, so I placed 1100 rupees there.

Thanks for sharing Kanishk <------------- meaning vehicle of the Gods. Wow what a great name.:clapping:
The Naadi reader seems genuine and only 1100rp (£11) shows that they are not ripping you off.
How many chapters were read to you? Was your reading only this present life or did they go into a past life and future possibilities ?
Hearing a stranger reading out personal details about your life that only you know about can be quite an experience. I hope the reading helps your journey from here on.

[Billy]

Hi again guys. I returned from India after a wonderful 4 months there at the beginning of May. Two days after my return my tablet died and my phone had no data package.
Long story but I am pleased to be back online again.

I have some great experiences to share when I get around to it. I visited the spectacular hand sculpted Ellora and Ajanta temple caves. They absolutely blew my mind. I think they deserve their own thread.

For those who have been following this thread I have created a new thread about my visit to the Ellora and Ajanta temple caves.
This is the link.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?102899-My-visit-to-the-Ellora-and-Ajanta-temple-caves-in-India&p=1226574&viewfull=1#post1226574

[kanishk]

I have not updated many things about my experiences about Naadi.

So I found my Naadi elsewhere again, :ROFL: or the first one is not my Naadi and this one is only.

This time I only gave answers in Yes and No. And finally my leaf was found.

They told the name of Line on my thumb and the number of dots there are on that line.

But the earlier Naadi reader told me that I have Two dots on my thumb. The founder of that Naadi reader place told me that a persons Naadi could be found in 16 different types of Naadi.

At this place I asked the same question and they told me that it could be found at 18 different Naadis written by different people. But this leaf of yours is written by Agasthya Maharishi and its in detail. And if you go find other leaf same will be written there but in very concise manner, not in detail, etc etc.

Previous leaf reader reading recording was of only 6 minutes, but this one is of more than 40 minutes.

Watch this youtube video:

The Nadi Shastra of Agastya Mahamuni

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[Billy]

Thank you for sharing Kanishk..
I watched the video and yes, I was also informed by my Naadi priest in 2005 after I asked him if destiny was set in stone ? He answered, that personal destiny depends on the spirtual growth of the individual. He said to me, there are variations depending on where your heart is. if your heart is pure and you live your life in a loving caring manner, performing good deeds to dissolve any karmic past lives attachments, you can bring your destiny forward, not just in this life time but future lives that you may not have to live through.
Then he said that the opposite can happen. If your heart is hard and you perform negative deeds, harming others, then your destiny will be delayed, not just in this life but future lives also.

I did visit another Naadi reader when I was in Tiruvannamalai just out of curiosity, he did a search and said my leaves were to be found in a library a few hours drive away. I did not travel there.

How was your reading Kanishk ?

[kanishk]

How was your reading Kanishk ?

Me and my cousin brother came right back to my room and layed down after that, it was overwhelming. We then downloaded the audio recording sent via email and listened to each other’s recording again. It was still overwhelming. His reading sent my them is 20 minutes long and mine is 27 minutes long. At the time of question answers for finding out the leaf, I recorded the audio by my phone and in second session when the reading is read out loud, I again recorded it on my phone.
That week I called my cousin brother immediately to come to my city via flight to bring some of my documents which I needed for verification elsewhere. After few days I planned on taking a leave and going out into the main city to show it to him. I thought to show his Birthchart to one good astrologer here in this city or else we can go to Nadi reader, maybe his leaf there and I will ask about my other chapters of Nadi. On that day we had no plan to where we should go so we just where direction took, as I had Naadi reader in mind we went there. My brother said that why I should spend unnecessarily for his Naadi. There at the the centre leaf reader was not present, some other guy was there who was not a leaf reader. I told him that I came various times and called various times also. That many times I was told that the rotation of leafs is pending due to some functions etc. from Chennai. And last time when I asked they told me to come but there was again the question answer thing there. Does that happen each time for each chapters? He said that ask him (the reader) to get your specific chapter not the Prashna Chapter (Prashna = Question).

Now because of this unclear data, I got upset. I knew that my curiosity is not been fulfilled, but also my leaf reader is not telling me things clearly. At the time of question-answers for finding the Naadi leaf with him I told him the names of my mother and father; afterwards he asked me few things and said that these are matching and asked my time of birth etc. (by which you can calculate birthchart) and asked me to wait outside. That’s why I wanted to translate the transcripts on the leaf that I had taken picture of with by camera. He also wrote somethings on a notebook in present day Tamil script with south India Birthchart on second page of their note book. This is about the first Naadi reader that I visited, and about which I described Naadi related posts in previous months.

Now that guy at that Naadi centre told us to come next time and with upset mind I was wearing my shoes outside. One guy came there for the first time asking us if this is the Naadi centre etc. He went inside and gave his thumb prints and was told that people are not present and that he should come next time. After that he told us that before this he had gone to other Naadi reader but his leaf was not found there last time, and therefore he came here to give it a try. He told us that one he previously visited only charge 600 rupees if the leaf is found. And that they only take the first Alphabet of your name, that they doesn’t ask your name. That he was actually referred to that Naadi centre by his friend not here. My brother was actually taking interest in talking to him not me. But after coming downstairs towards our vehicles I asked about the address, that where it is? The area that he mentioned was coming towards the direction if we head back to my room, from where we came, because it was raining all the day continuously and we are not in the mind of travelling elasewhere. When we reached at that cross road mentioned by that guy, we saw no advertisements or anything. Afterwards we found that the location tagged there as Nadi Astrology Centre but were still unable to find it. No contact number was also mentioned on the google maps tag. I was almost like with the mind that we should now leave the idea and head back. But actually my brother pushed me to just try more. Went inside an unknown building and somebody told that they don’t know if there is any Naadi or some astrology or religious centre here. But still my cousin told me that we should just check till the end and be confirmed and then one guy told him that yes there is an Naadi centre upwards. Reaching there on top floor there was no advertise banner in front of their centre. But looking at the wooden carving on the entrance I knew this is it.

In my reading the first half is very bad, don’t know if the guy was translating meant to say ‘..always been happening’ but actually saying ‘…will always happen’ while translating Tamil sentences read out loud by the actual leaf reader. But afterwards I understood that he meant that only. The first part of the reading was about the worse time line and the other was about the better one. But because the worst part was so overwhelming only that was in my mind, unable to concentrate on the good time line prediction. When they were reading out loud worse after worse after worse, I was sitting numb saying say something good. Afterwards when they told about the remedies that I have to i.e. to visit some places on timely basis and some mantras that has to be recited for specific amount and duration. The good timeline started. It was different than the worst one. Still the apathy that entered inside me took some while to come out. And we went back to my room and listened to the audio recording sent by them to us over the email again. And listened to the good part with focus.

One day I went to that centre again to ask them about the mantras. But they told me that only their Big Guru know that. That they don’t know it. Don’t know, I am actually in financial troubles now to pay for the Mantra reciting by their Guru. They don’t even take credit card, they only want cash. They told me that I can pay some amount now and reset afterwards. So I took out some cash, a less than 1/4th amount and asked them to start the mantras.

[Billy]

How was your reading Kanishk ?


One day I went to that centre again to ask them about the mantras. But they told me that only their Big Guru know that. That they don’t know it. Don’t know, I am actually in financial troubles now to pay for the Mantra reciting by their Guru. They don’t even take credit card, they only want cash. They told me that I can pay some amount now and reset afterwards. So I took out some cash, a less than 1/4th amount and asked them to start the mantras.

Thanks for sharing Kanishk.
I do not quite understand everything you said.
But one thing I must say is "DO NOT over stretch your finances and get yourself into debt, if you cannot afford it, tell them so and walk away"

This is meant to be a positive experience for you. Not one that causes you stress.

[kanishk]

Up until now, I looked into my

Shri Agasthiya Mahashiva Naadi 1st Chapter (General Chapter) {at M.P. Bala Naadi centre, Pune}
Shri Agasthiya Mahashiva Naadi 7th Chapter {at M. Manoharan Naadi centre, Pune}
Shri Agasthiya Mahashiva Naadi 10th Chapter (Pending - Found but not yet read) {at M. Manoharan Naadi centre, Pune}

Shri Mahashiva Sukshma Naadi (14 chapters at once) {at P. Karan Swamy Naadi centre, Pune}

Shri Kagapujandar Vasista Naadi (Mahasukshma with all chapters - partially read) {at Pune}

At this 'Kagapujandar Vasista Naadi' I met a guy who gave me huge amount of information.

And there in one guy named Shashikant Oak, who have his youtube channel. Here is his book in english. It will be of some help to those who wanna know more about Naadi leaf reading.

Kindle and Paperback: https://www.amazon.in/Naadi-Predictions-Shashikant-Oak-ebook/dp/B00IJ1EWXI
https://www.amazon.com/Naadi-Predictions-Mind-Boggling-Miracle/dp/8171829481
Free Google book: https://books.google.co.in/books?id=r0GTvPgBaYkC&pg=PA13&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=4#v=onepage&q&f=false

[whitewizard]

Hey everyone :)

Can anyone recommend a place online where I could get this done?

[kanishk]

Hey everyone :)

Can anyone recommend a place online where I could get this done?

What you can do is search them on google maps. There you will find many Naadi readers in various big cities of India. In the description find their website and on some there maybe a skypeID given. Contact them via skype and do your palm reading done like that.

Now, couple of the above given Naadi leaf reading centers provide readings through skype to foreigners in English language. This can be done over phone or Watsaap call also. When the leaf is found the recording will be sent to you via email or watsaap.

[kanishk]

Apart from General life reading, there is separate Prashna (=questions) patti (=a long rectangular shape)(=leaf) where you can ask questions.


They are also called Jeeva (=alive) Naadi.


When you ask question its like here and now the question is listened and been given answer. Even if the leaf from which it is been read can be carbon dated way back. But the answers are like here and now. With all the probabilities.


Came to realize that, there is a free will, you can not affect it. There are always probabilities. Your actions, your mistakes can make a person think different about about you. Of course the astrology is affecting yours and theirs moods and thoughts. For all those astrological defects remedies can be done. But free will is here and now, in present. You can do all sorts of things to make a person love you; like astrological remedies, presents, sweet talk, but free will is there for them, whether their decision was affected by astrological affects or their past experiences or your past mistakes.


While doing Jeeva Naadi if you will ask any dumb question you will be scolded like father scolds his kids, but its a fatherly love. You will feel emotions out of the text. Naadi reader feel it more. Its like you are really in communication with the Maharishi.



There's one Jeeva Naadi in south India. On that nothing is written. You can ask your question in any language; like say you ask it in Polish language. The answer will appear in Polish language written in Tamil script for the Naadi reader. He will read it as it is appeared for him, but the answer will be in Polish. Only you will understand it, because you know the Polish language. The text that appear are only visible to the Naadi reader.

[Billy]

What does the ancient Naadi palm leaves say about today's Coronavirus?
Graig Hamilton-Parker reads from the Naadi Shasta.
I found this very interesting.

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The YouTube video description:

Did the 10,000-year-old Naadi leaves foresee the coronavirus? In this video, Craig discusses his psychic coronavirus predictions in the light of the revelations recently made in the Indian Naadi.

Naadi astrology comes from Southern India. The ancient Siddha yogis had superhuman clairvoyance and were able to foresee the destiny of anyone who is to read the Naadi palm leaves. As well as the future of individuals some Naadi leaves contain the future of humanity.

Craig has been studying Naadi astrology and has uncovered a number of texts that have foreseen the coronavirus pandemic. Craig is hailed by the newspapers as the New Nostradamus. His psychic predictions also foresaw the coronavirus pandemic and was headline news in the Sun online Newspaper.

In this video, you will learn more about his insights and psychic predictions for the coronavirus. How did it start? Was it a biological weapon? How will the coronavirus pandemic end? And when!

[greybeard]

Billy I watched, listened to the entire video and I agree with what is said and that there is a silver lining -- an opportunity to evolve spiritually.
I hope more people will go within -- do mantras etc. There in lies the "answer".
Thanks for posting the video
Best wishes
Chris

[Billy]

Billy I watched, listened to the entire video and I agree with what is said and that there is a silver lining -- an opportunity to evolve spiritually.
I hope more people will go within -- do mantras etc. There in lies the "answer".
Thanks for posting the video
Best wishes
Chris

Thanks Chris, Yes I loved his quote, "If you can't go out, go within" :bowing:

[greybeard]

I felt very at home in India Billy
and was interested to hear Sai Baba mentioned several times in the video.
I was fortunate to spend a month one Christmas on his ashram.
It was quite amazing on Christmas day -- many thousands there all races all culture all religions -- singing Christian Hymns.
He often said "There is only one religion The religion of Love"
India is the cradle of spirituality.
I find Advaita Vedanta attractive.
Quite a broad Philosophy

With love Chris

[greybeard]

What also comes from the video is, there is a limit to free will, at least by implication
If this was not so the future, the past of the individual precisely "written" on the leaves would not be more than a possibility but it seems so accurate that it is probably a definite.

A young friend once said to me "If you think God does not know what you are going to do next, think again"
That kind of sums it up.
I suspect we may be able to delay things, react positively or otherwise, but the future is mapped out for us or it could not appear on the leaves.
Chris

[Billy]

This is a part quote from a long post on page 1 of this thread which I posted here in 2018.
Naadi prophecy for our time highlighted in red.


The 21st Century According to the Sapta Rishi Nadis

From the German original: “Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas”
Translated by George Vodvárka.

According to legend, the library was created more than 5,000 years ago by seven holy rishis. They apparently wrote biographies of about 80,000 people who will come to ask their fate. About ten percent of these leaves apply to persons born out of India. In the course of centuries, several copies of the original text were done, so that today there are 12 libraries of palm leaves, located in different places of the Indian subcontinent.

These palm leaves each have a dimension of 6 x 46 cm. Written upon them are the fates of people who come to them to ask about the future life. The questioner’s fate is apparently recorded on both sides of the strip sheet palm. The letters are reportedly only about 1 mm high, and to the untrained eye, are not easily distinguishable. In these tiny letters one can find all the details of his life, including information of his parents and siblings, life partner and children, profession and certain physical characteristics and possible shortcomings. Modern concepts are sometimes figuratively translated. For example, the driver as a profession defined as “a vehicle manager”.

Sometimes in the palm sheet, the name of the person is recorded and also the names of his close relatives; if at the time of his visit still alive. In many sheets are written in advance and the date and name of the person who visits the library. According to von Buttlar the visitor usually is confronted with two sheets. The first give the name, details of his life as well as data on previous incarnation. If specific information relating to the life agrees, the Nadi interpreter reads from the second sheet also its future. There is the Bhrigu-samhita and the Shuka Nadi.

According to an article in Magazine Esotera, year 1992/8, Johannes von Buttlar says that the library in Bangalore stores 3,665 "bundles palm leaves", each of which consist of 365 palm leaves.

The interpretation of palm leaves in the family apparently a tradition transmitted from father to the oldest son. The particular copies I analyzed with c14 system where 350 years old.

I started to investigate the nadi leaves in Feb of 1993 in libraries in Bangalore and Madras. From the palm leaf nadis, each person receives only the information which may help his personal spiritual growth. Just in case that his karma is one of active participation in the political life of the country and for helping the future; one receives the necessary information from the relevant volumes of palm leaves.

There was some doubt initially raised in me in the context as to whether I have the right to publish the content of these prophetic texts palm leaves. In discussions with Ganesha Shastri and other interpreters of palm leaves in Madras and Bangalore, however, I came to the belief that it is my task in this life, to try to make this information accessible to as many people as possible. This obligation for me is already clear from the fact that I received an extraordinary honor and I could get these rare prophetic manuscripts.

These Bhrighu Nadi readings were done by Ganesha Babu Shastri to Thomas Ritter from old Tamil palm leaves in his Nadi center in Madras, on Sept 2001. The information is originally published in a book in German language in 2006, and then translated into Czech language.

READINGS

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After 2018, another strange disease will kill hundreds of thousands of human lives in U.S., Europe, Asia. The infected person easily gets ill by normal diseases such as colds, as their organism, is unable to deal with them. Death usually arrives within three days. (Ganesh Babu Sastri called the disease by an English acronym RISC - Rapid Immune System Collapse, the accelerated collapse of the immune system - author’s note) In most cases the disease causes death. After the year 2023 in Europe, some African refugees bring a fatal disease called Kunu. Weak people get a high fever and their internal organs cease to work in a few days. The sickness will be deadly and will spread as fast as flu. But two years before the outbreak of the epidemic, they will discover the parasite worms in the blood. Internal organs get affected, especially the heart and liver; and the infected person dies within a week. This disease is transmitted by animal food.

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After 2049 people will have knowledge that they are not alone in the universe. Repairing the damage caused by natural disasters in Europe and the Middle East, artifacts will be found, which will clearly demonstrate to the public their extraterrestrial origin. This discovery will have far-reaching impact on religious and philosophical systems. The period since 2049 bears a sign of a new beginning, a spiritually-oriented age forthcoming Satya-yuga.

Distributed via the internet by Thomas Ritter -
Prophecies of Europe / Libraries from Palm Leaves
[From the German original: “Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas”]
Translated by: George Vodvárka. Pub. Jochen Kopp, Rottenburg (2006),
www.dialog-lhc.cz • e-mail: knihy@dialog-lhc.cz
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Whether or not the above predictions are reliable, I cannot say, except where the coincide with Shrila Prabhupada’s prophetic description of a mini-Satya Yuga, the worldwide spread of Krishna consciousness. They are passed along to you as a matter of general interest in order to stimulate your understanding of the great need for devotees to find a safe environment in the coming crises. What we know is that the cities and the artificially-created oil-dependent “prosperity” must come to an end, and end – sooner rather than later. Alongside these harsh realities, shadow governments are vying for world domination using so-called elected “fall-guys” to play “world leaders”

Peace

[Billy]

What does the ancient Naadi palm leaves say about today's Coronavirus?
Graig Hamilton-Parker reads from the Naadi Shasta.
I found this very interesting.

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The YouTube video description:

Did the 10,000-year-old Naadi leaves foresee the coronavirus? In this video, Craig discusses his psychic coronavirus predictions in the light of the revelations recently made in the Indian Naadi.

Naadi astrology comes from Southern India. The ancient Siddha yogis had superhuman clairvoyance and were able to foresee the destiny of anyone who is to read the Naadi palm leaves. As well as the future of individuals some Naadi leaves contain the future of humanity.

Craig has been studying Naadi astrology and has uncovered a number of texts that have foreseen the coronavirus pandemic. Craig is hailed by the newspapers as the New Nostradamus. His psychic predictions also foresaw the coronavirus pandemic and was headline news in the Sun online Newspaper.

In this video, you will learn more about his insights and psychic predictions for the coronavirus. How did it start? Was it a biological weapon? How will the coronavirus pandemic end? And when!

This is another updated video by Graig Hamilton-Parker concerning the Cova19 virus from the Naadi released yesterday.

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[Bill Ryan]

Billy, could you possibly summarize? Is that easy to do? At the moment, even a 15 video feels like it's getting long, and there's a LOT to keep up with. But I'm really very interested indeed.

Edit to add: Okay, here's a summary of the second video. (Not the first one, which I've not watched.)

From the Naadi prophecies only:


There'll be a recognized "cure" by 12 April (i.e. 4 days from now).



There'll be more lockdowns and public unrest, and possible uprisings. But step by step, the restrictions will be lifted at the end of May.



By the beginning of summer, life will be normal again. There'll be another outbreak in September, but not as bad as the current (first) outbreak.



To help yourself, strengthen your personal immune system. Avoid negativity and fear, eat green vegetables (freshly picked if possible), take tulsi (an Indian herb), basil (dark green is best), drink hot water regularly, and make sure your food is always fully cooked.

[Goba]

An interesting day today. :) If anyone doesn't know what the very remarkable Naadi Prophecies are, do read this thread.


I would like to add a caveat to that.

I visited the Nadi Gruha in Bangalore in 1991. The reading took a little over an hour and half of it was dedicated to my life up to that point in time, the other half to my life in the future up to my proposed time of death which was given to me precisely to the hour. The session was recorded on audio tape and I went back to it a number of times later. Long story short: Amazingly some of the stuff pertaining to my life up to that point was correct, but it was all quite general. but still, nothing one could easily elicit from my behavior or questions asked.
However ZERO was correct that pertained to my life "in the future" which is now 30 years my past.

I visited another such Nadi reader in Madras in 2001 and this time took a video camera with me. I uploaded the entire session which in my opinion was nothing but cold reading mixed with guessing and outrageous claims for my future. you can watch it here:

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[Maunagarjana]

An interesting day today. :) If anyone doesn't know what the very remarkable Naadi Prophecies are, do read this thread.


I would like to add a caveat to that.

I visited the Nadi Gruha in Bangalore in 1991. The reading took a little over an hour and half of it was dedicated to my life up to that point in time, the other half to my life in the future up to my proposed time of death which was given to me precisely to the hour. The session was recorded on audio tape and I went back to it a number of times later. Long story short: Amazingly some of the stuff pertaining to my life up to that point was correct, but it was all quite general. but still, nothing one could easily elicit from my behavior or questions asked.
However ZERO was correct that pertained to my life "in the future" which is now 30 years my past.

I visited another such Nadi reader in Madras in 2001 and this time took a video camera with me. I uploaded the entire session which in my opinion was nothing but cold reading mixed with guessing and outrageous claims for my future. you can watch it here:

iY2a9oI6O7s


Craig Hamilton Parker stresses that the vast majority of Naadi readers are complete frauds. He talks about this in the Mystic Journey to India documentary. He says he was lucky to get in contact with some people who are the real deal, which he says you have to have exceptionally good karma to do. Otherwise, he says, he would have gotten fleeced by grifters.

[Eva2]

Has anyone heard of Bhrigu Samhita astrology - it seems very similar to the naadi palm leaf astrology. Apparently this is less well known but supposedly covers astrology charts for about a million people and is also thousands of years old. This is how Wikipedia describes it:

'The Bhrigu Saṃhitā is a Sanskrit astrological (Jyotisha) treatise attributed in its introduction to Maharishi Bhrigu, one of the Saptarishis (seven sages) of the Vedic period. Its introductory chapter states that it was compiled by the saptrishi uttaradhikari out of compassion for humanity so that humanity could cope with the pressures of its existence and move towards a more spiritual nature.[1] The Bhrigu Samhita claims to contain predictions about current and future lives as well as information about past lives.'

Has anyone else had experience with this ancient astrology?

[Eva2]

I am doing a bit of "light" online reading of the Bhrigu Samhita manuscripts and astrology and am finding it very interesting. It does sound similar in many ways to the naadi leaves and apparently is as accurate when genuine. Like the naadi leaves, it probably has more scammers than authentic people involved in this astrology but it does seem there are a few authentic holders and readers of this manuscript which has been described as the physical equivalent of the Akashic Records. I hope I'm not derailing this thread by introducing this here but did note other references to the bhrigu samhita on this thread. If I'm veering off topic, please remove this. I am certainly interested in anyone who has experience with the naadi and bhrigu forms of astrology. I've had two readings with the naadi and was amazed at the accuracy of my present circumstances and hope the future predictions are as accurate. Here's a video of a David Lane interview after his experience with Bhrigu Samhita:

https://youtu.be/6CQxcRrDR3w

[Billy]

Hi Jill :waving:
I had a look at the Bhrigu Samhita and yes is sounds like it is the same as the Naadi Shastra. The same procedure just a different Sage from North India instead of from Tamil Nadu in the south.

There are also ancient Buddhist monasteries in the Himalayan mountains who hold the ancient leaves in libraries. I don't think they do readings, but if you stay with them and follow their teachings for a while, if they decide you are worthy, they will read them to you.

[Eva2]

Hi Jill :waving:
I had a look at the Bhrigu Samhita and yes is sounds like it is the same as the Naadi Shastra. The same procedure just a different Sage from North India instead of from Tamil Nadu in the south.

There are also ancient Buddhist monasteries in the Himalayan mountains who hold the ancient leaves in libraries. I don't think they do readings, but if you stay with them and follow their teachings for a while, if they decide you are worthy, they will read them to you.

Thank you Billy - I think I read that there are a lot of the leaves/pages held in the Punjab. There seems to be a lot of established families there who have been reading these leaves for generations. Interesting that Buddhist monasteries hold leaves as well. I vaguely recall reading an excerpt from one of Craig Parker's books that he also did a bit of research on this astrology but was not ready, somewhat afraid (or words to that effect) to look for his page.

[Eva2]

I recently received this message from Vera of Green Tara who facilitates Naadi Palm Leaf Readings. As Billy has mentioned in his thread, there are many fraudsters who purport to be genuine readers and I expect this to be particularly true with the online readers. I did my bit of research and stumbled on Vera from Green Tara. She facilitates readings online with genuine readers from India (based on my experiences with her). About 4 years ago, I had my first reading via Skype (coordinated by Vera) with one of her connections in Tamil Nadu and was astounded with the accuracy of the results, both present and future. In fact, one of the "predictions" given re a future event which, at the time, I had a hard time believing would ever happen, actually came true a matter of weeks later. I had another reading (of a different type) with her last year and again she was right on with my an existing condition and I am presently dealing with an issue that was predicted. All this to say, I truly believe she is working with authentic readers so I feel comfortable recommending her services, although I have noticed her fees have gone up a good bit since my original reading. Still, it is cheaper than actually travelling to India for this purpose. I know a few people who have had readings through her and were equally impressed. So, in case anyone is interested, just passing this on:

'We've been hard at work and are proud to announce the launch of the renewed Green Tara Canada website!
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This date and time has been carefully planned by our Palm Leaf Readers and Pundits to maximize the supporting and beneficial effects of the planets for the hour when the ceremony is done.
This online group event is done exclusively for YOU; the attendees, and anyone can participate from anywhere in the world.
During the ceremony, Pundits will pray and chant mantras while performing the powerful fire ritual meant to help us boost all the positive effects and minimize all the negative ones for the upcoming 2021 year! It will focus on all areas of life including improving and helping our financial situation, success, love, relationships, health, and spiritual development!
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We also have a few new blog articles, and the newest one provides useful guidelines for everyone who is interested in getting, or has already received a prediction of any kind; The Life Element Theory

As some of you may know, Green Tara Alternative Healthcare and Life Improvement has been functioning as a referral-based business for over the past 10 years, thanks to our amazing clients! -However, due to some changes I have currently started putting all my effort and work into building more audience and getting more known by the public, and I'd like to reach out to you lovely clients for some support in this!

If you know of blog writers, podcast hosts or any other media who may be interested in helping others learn about the Palm Leaf Manuscripts, Palm Leaf Readings or any other service we provide, please show your support by referring us or letting us know about them! -Thank you!!!

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[Billy]

Many thanks for the update Jill :bowing:

[kanishk]

I have not watched the video, but Nadi Palm leafs are medium between Munivar, Rishi, Maharishi, Siddhas, Naadhas, Various Gods and Human who seeks answers. Therefore, from which Maharishi your are taking Nadi readings is also to a things to note. The texts appear after your ask question. For simple and general questions I do a Nadi from one NadiReader, he only has three Bundles (Books) with him and he repeats them one by one again and again for many people. Another place I did such Nadi reading and they also do it like that. Commonly Nadi readers have to get new Nadi Bundles from south after they get consumed.


Mostly we see Nadis of Sage Agasthya, Kaushika, Vashishtha, ShivaVakkaya etc. But there are some Nadis which are very powerful of some other Masters and Gods out there.

[kanishk]

Hi Jill :waving:
I had a look at the Bhrigu Samhita and yes is sounds like it is the same as the Naadi Shastra. The same procedure just a different Sage from North India instead of from Tamil Nadu in the south.

There are also ancient Buddhist monasteries in the Himalayan mountains who hold the ancient leaves in libraries. I don't think they do readings, but if you stay with them and follow their teachings for a while, if they decide you are worthy, they will read them to you.


Palm leafs in Oriya language is also there in the state of Orrisa.

[kanishk]

Hey everyone :)

Can anyone recommend a place online where I could get this done?

Best place I will recommend if you understand HINDI or TAMIL or someone you know who can translate for you from these languages properly is from Nadi reader Shri Kannan Guruji:-

NADI ASTROLOGER JYOTISH Maharishi Palm Leafs Ancient & Timeless Shree KagabhujandaBahuladevi / श्री कागभुजंडबहुलादेवी / ஸ்ரீ காகபுஜண்டர் பகுளாதேவி / Kagabujandar / Kagapujandar / Kakabusundi

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bis7rMNWFSrvJtLc7

https://naadiprediction.business.site/

....... X.......

Then, another Naadi reader of AdiGuru Shri KagabujandarBahuladevi I know about is Naadi reader Shri Ramani Guruji. He can do readings in ENGLISH. But he also has one German website also. How he does I have no idea but I think you can get it done online I guess. Here:-

http://narbhavie.com/ (For Europe)
http://www.arulvanam.org/

...... X.......

Then from Another reader I took Direct Question Naadi of Kagabujandar in English. And I know another Nadi reader who can do Hindi Nadi reading from bsic Nadi reading of Kagabujandar. Both are as a discussion between his Deciple (Shri Gorakhnath) and his Guru (Shri Kagabujandar). However persons I mentioned above are very blessed Nadi readers as a great deciple of Adi Guru Shri Kagabujandar.

[kanishk]

Hey everyone :)

Can anyone recommend a place online where I could get this done?

Best place I will recommend if you understand HINDI or TAMIL or someone you know who can translate for you from these languages properly is from Nadi reader Shri Kannan Guruji:-

NADI ASTROLOGER JYOTISH Maharishi Palm Leafs Ancient & Timeless Shree KagabhujandaBahuladevi / श्री कागभुजंडबहुलादेवी / ஸ்ரீ காகபுஜண்டர் பகுளாதேவி / Kagabujandar / Kagapujandar / Kakabusundi

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bis7rMNWFSrvJtLc7

https://naadiprediction.business.site/

....... X.......

Then, another Naadi reader of AdiGuru Shri KagabujandarBahuladevi I know about is Naadi reader Shri Ramani Guruji. He can do readings in ENGLISH. But he also has one German website also. How he does I have no idea but I think you can get it done online I guess. Here:-

http://narbhavie.com/ (For Europe)
http://www.arulvanam.org/

...... X.......

Then from Another reader I took Direct Question Naadi of Kagabujandar in English. And I know another Nadi reader who can do Hindi Nadi reading from bsic Nadi reading of Kagabujandar. Both are as a discussion between his Deciple (Shri Gorakhnath) and his Guru (Shri Kagabujandar). However persons I mentioned above are very blessed Nadi readers as a great deciple of Adi Guru Shri Kagabujandar.

One thing I wanted to add that, the first reader Shri Kannan Guruji from Pune gets his Palm Leafs from the second reader I mentioned Shri Ramani Guruji itself.

Stories wich are like magic to us is just a normal day to day thing for them.

[Elainie]

Hey everyone :)

Can anyone recommend a place online where I could get this done?

Best place I will recommend if you understand HINDI or TAMIL or someone you know who can translate for you from these languages properly is from Nadi reader Shri Kannan Guruji:-

NADI ASTROLOGER JYOTISH Maharishi Palm Leafs Ancient & Timeless Shree KagabhujandaBahuladevi / श्री कागभुजंडबहुलादेवी / ஸ்ரீ காகபுஜண்டர் பகுளாதேவி / Kagabujandar / Kagapujandar / Kakabusundi

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bis7rMNWFSrvJtLc7

https://naadiprediction.business.site/

....... X.......

Then, another Naadi reader of AdiGuru Shri KagabujandarBahuladevi I know about is Naadi reader Shri Ramani Guruji. He can do readings in ENGLISH. But he also has one German website also. How he does I have no idea but I think you can get it done online I guess. Here:-

http://narbhavie.com/ (For Europe)
http://www.arulvanam.org/

...... X.......

Then from Another reader I took Direct Question Naadi of Kagabujandar in English. And I know another Nadi reader who can do Hindi Nadi reading from bsic Nadi reading of Kagabujandar. Both are as a discussion between his Deciple (Shri Gorakhnath) and his Guru (Shri Kagabujandar). However persons I mentioned above are very blessed Nadi readers as a great deciple of Adi Guru Shri Kagabujandar.

One thing I wanted to add that, the first reader Shri Kannan Guruji from Pune gets his Palm Leafs from the second reader I mentioned Shri Ramani Guruji itself.

Stories wich are like magic to us is just a normal day to day thing for them.


I have written to one (Shree KagabhujandaBahuladevi) and they are asking for my thumbprint, I will do it and get the reading.

[kanishk]

[QUOTE=kanishk;1450487]

I have written to one (Shree KagabhujandaBahuladevi) and they are asking for my thumbprint, I will do it and get the reading.

Even if Maharishi knows about you. The Nadi readers need this to sort out two three bundles of Indexing from many which reduces time of Indexing. Some people even ask for BirthStar of even date of birth. but even if that reduces time, and other details are there, it can hamper the belief in person who is taking the reading. Many people say that Naadi readers have access to AADHAR database. They say Naadi reader take thumb print and using that get details of theirs from AADHAR database, but actually it's their Karma Doshas of this and previous lives.

Kannan Guruji told me about one person who travelled across India for 30 years and spend huge money to get his Nadi done atleast from anywhere, but haven't yet found his Nadi at any Nadi centre yet.

If you go to Nadi Centre for Prashna Nadi, you just ask question and get answer, no need for Thumb. It is required just for doing Indexing thing, where things are matched. This is just a standard procedure. Because main reading style of different Maharishi is different. Like as I know in Shri Adi Guru Kagabujandar Guruji's Nadi and Shri Lankadhipati Ravana's Naadi you get it in parts. Some part now then next part after specific day etc.

[Billy]

I have written to one (Shree KagabhujandaBahuladevi) and they are asking for my thumbprint, I will do it and get the reading.

I gave my thumb print when I first met my Naadi family. I was told Right thumb for male and left for female.

Have you read Jill's post above and her experience with the readers she contacted? They seem genuine.
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?64742-Naadi-Shastra-My-experience-with-Destiny&p=1395177&viewfull=1#post1395177

[kanishk]

I have written to one (Shree KagabhujandaBahuladevi) and they are asking for my thumbprint, I will do it and get the reading.


Shashikant Oak, He is also from Pune. He did a lot of work in Naadi Palm leafs. Visited many Nadi centers in India. Here is his youtube channel:-
https://www.youtube.com/user/shashikantoak/videos



Some one made a profile of him here
https://en.dharmapedia.net/wiki/Shashikant_Oak


His blog dedicated to Biography of first incarnation of Dattatreya i.e. Shripad Shrivallabh Charitamrut is here:-
https://sanatanprabhat.org/marathi/470393.html


If you want information about anything anout Naadi palmleafs you can contact him after 9:00 PM IST. This is his number +919881901049


He recently also created an App for finding Naadi Palm leaf centers at nearby locations for Indian people.



His twitter account:- https://twitter.com/shashioak

[Eva2]

'Palm leaves world predictions till 2050+;
true so far, let’s see….

Dear friends and fellow human beings, this is probably the most important document of the century for humanity, concerning the future of mankind:

Thomas Ritter ‐ "Prophecies of Europe/libraries from palm leaves", from the German original “ì Die Palmblattbibliotheken und ihre Prophezeiungen zur Zukunft Europas” by publisher Jochen Kopp,
Rottenburg, in 2006, translated by George Vodvárka. Published by Dialogue Book Wholesalers and
Publishers, Markov 378A 460 14 Liberec 14, 2007.

According to legend, the library was created more than 5 000 years ago by seven holy rishis. They apparently wrote biographies of about 80 000 people who will come to ask her fate. About ten percent of these leaves apply to persons born out of India. In the course of centuries, several copies of the original text where done, so that today there are 12 libraries of palm leaves, located in different places of the Indian subcontinent. These palm leaves on the dimension of 6 x 46 cm having the fate of people who come to them one day to ask about the future life of the questioner which is apparently recorded in verses on both sides of the strip sheet palm. The letters are reportedly only
about 1 mm high, and, to the untrained eye, are not distinguished. In these tiny letters one can find all the details of his life, including information of parents and siblings, life partner and children, profession and certain physical characteristics and possible shortcomings.

The modern concepts are sometimes figuratively translated. For example, the driver is a profession defined as a vehicle manager. Sometimes in the palm sheet, the name of the person is recorded and also the names of his close relatives; if at the time of his visit still alive. In many sheets are written in advance and the date and name of the person who visits the library. According to Buttlara the visitor usually is confronted with two sheets. The first give the name, details of his life as well as data on previous incarnation. If specific information relating to the life agrees, the Nadi interpreter reads from the second sheet also its future. There is the Bhrighu‐samhita and the Suka Nadi.

According to an article in Magazine Esotera year 1992/8, Johannes von Buttlar says that the library in Bangalore stores 3,665 "bundles palm leaves", each of which consist of 365 palm leaves. The interpretation of palm leaves in the family apparently a tradition transmitted from father to the oldest son. The particular copies I analysed with c14 system where 350 years old. I started to investigate the nadi leaves in Feb 1993 in libraries in Bangalore and Madras. From the palm leaf nadis, each person receives only the information which may help to personal spiritual growth. Just in case that his karma is one of active participation in the political life of the country and for helping the future; one receives the necessary information from the relevant volumes of palm leaves.

There was some doubts initially raised in me in the context as to whether I have the right to publish the content of these prophetic texts palm leaves. In discussions with Ganesha Shastrí and other interpreters of palm leaves in Madras and Bangalore, however, I came to the belief that it is my task in this life, to try to make this information accessible to as many people as possible. This obligation for me is already clear from the fact that I received an extraordinary honour and I could get these rare prophetic manuscripts. These Bhrighu Nadi readings where done by Ganesha Babu Shastri to Thomas Ritter from old Tamil palm leaves in his Nadi center in Madras, on Sept 2001 ; the information is originally published in a book in German language in 2006, and then translated into zchek language'

Readings at this link

https://soolaba.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/bhrigu-samhita-predictions-2000-2050.pdf

https://soolaba.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/bhrigu-samhita-predictions-2000-2050.pdf