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watchZEITGEISTnow
25th October 2013, 03:32
Facebook can be used positively: remember don't throw the baby out with the bath water, so I thought it was worthy ditty for everyone.


"Dear Human: You've got it all wrong. ...........................
I found this on face-book and thought I would share it with you.

“Dear Human: You’ve got it all wrong. You didn’t come here to master unconditional love. That is where you came from and where you’ll return. You came here to learn personal love. Universal love. Messy love. Sweaty love. Crazy love. Broken love. Whole love. Infused with divinity. Lived through the grace of stumbling. Demonstrated through the beauty of… messing up. Often. You didn’t come here to be perfect. You already are. You came here to be gorgeously human. Flawed and fabulous. And then to rise again into remembering. But unconditional love? Stop telling that story. Love, in truth, doesn’t need ANY other adjectives. It doesn’t require modifiers. It doesn’t require the condition of perfection. It only asks that you show up. And do your best. That you stay present and feel fully. That you shine and fly and laugh and cry and hurt and heal and fall and get back up and play and work and live and die as YOU. It’s enough. It’s Plenty.” _ anon

right on! :happy:

Sunny-side-up
25th October 2013, 11:12
Good post but! Been there done that and that oh yeah and a bit of that as well:rolleyes:

But I do think all that is what keeps us here and we have to rise on above to get back home again, home where none of the above happens.
We experience, we learn, we see and feel so much in both directions, at both ends of the scale, then we get the point and we say ok.

Flash
25th October 2013, 11:42
The word "inconditional" paired with love has been added up because, in human terms, we often confound love with emotionality - the mushy stuff based on egocentrism, where there is a deal or a bargain. Often related to sexual relationships. So we added up "unconditional" to say is was true love. I think the distinction may be necessary for a while still, although I realise that yes, love in fact does not need qualifyers.

Once you truly loved someone or something or an animal, there is no "unlove" because you quit him/her. You will love forever even if it does not work in intimacy for example. If it is any different, this often means that what you mistook for love was in fact egocentrism needs being fulfilled (sex, lust, security, etc.). When you say "I do not love you any more" you are saying "you do not fulfill my needs anymore" otherwise you would just say or think "we cannot share our intimacy anylonger, it is too difficult" but the love would remain - in my opinion.

I often also think that it is not ME who LOVES. That loves goes THROUGH me. It takes off all of the egocentrism needs from it. Sometimes I will say "IT LOVES" meaning loves going through on which I have no control and do not intend to have. IT LOVES... no ego, no attachment, because IT LOVES.

turiya
25th October 2013, 12:24
Many Humans do not know what love is. Most are confused & mistake it for attachment. Something that is a form of possession, of possessing. Such a love runs amuck when expectations are not manifest. Then the blame falls on the other for not fulfilling one's own expectation. Frustration ensues & most often a finger gets pointed outwardly.

Love is like a cup overflowing. It overflows from one's being in all directions. In this way, Love cannot be addressed, it cannot have an address. If it does, then it is not Love, it is an attempt to make a bargain, with another individual, so the one you would like to possess will possess you back...

With overflowing Love, unconditional Love... there is no need to ask the question, "Do you Love me?" These words are often said, "I love you." These words are often said in order to draw the same response from the other, "I love you, too." Such an arrangement becomes a business transaction.

Love is not the word 'Love'... Often times words get in the way... Because in silence, Love can be felt... Love is experiential, words are a substitute for experience.

Love flowing out of an individual in all directions... such Love is felt by others that are within close proximity to one that is overflowing with Love. Words are not needed, questioning one about whether they love you, or not, is an intellectual endeavor. It is for those that have lost touch, lack sensitivity, silence & intelligence.

Love is not of the intellect, it is intelligence.


turiya :cool:

Lifebringer
25th October 2013, 17:58
I've seen enough of that control, ego, lust, lie, and live selfish living. If that's what it's about, the strongest surviving only, then thanks but no thanks on this channel. I thing I've always questioned these zeitgeist people. I am just not feeling this one, and "no chills" on my arms when i read it.

I don't follow it. Hairs not standing on my neck, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

Delight
25th October 2013, 18:40
I've seen enough of that control, ego, lust, lie, and live selfish living. If that's what it's about, the strongest surviving only, then thanks but no thanks on this channel. I thing I've always questioned these zeitgeist people. I am just not feeling this one, and "no chills" on my arms when i read it.

I don't follow it. Hairs not standing on my neck, I'll take it with a grain of salt.

I don't quite understand? Is the a correlation of

"personal love. Universal love. Messy love. Sweaty love. Crazy love. Broken love. Whole love. Infused with divinity. Lived through the grace of stumbling. Demonstrated through the beauty of… messing up. Often. You didn’t come here to be perfect. You already are. You came here to be gorgeously human."

Being made with your statement


control, ego, lust, lie, and live selfish living. If that's what it's about, the strongest surviving only

Maybe its just because I am in the Chapel Perilous where all my mental constructs are quickly and decidedly showing up?
However, statements like this is what my heart is saying. It is demanding that i know the beauty of being the experiencer in my own reality.
It says that "self" and "other" are enmeshed and it is not my job to worry about my spontaneous expressions. It says "just be willing to show up and do my best".

The best is not a code, its a relationship to the moment I am now in and all that is with me. I can love everything as it is AND know that change happens. The concern for perfection seems imposed to distract.

My heart is telling me that it is because of the split off of honoring my personal as THE expression of what I AM here to learn, I felt very bad and needed to control and that made me "selfish" because I was blocked from the stream of life.

Shezbeth
25th October 2013, 19:02
I do love a treatise that begins with the words "You're wrong", the implication being that the information is 'correct'.

I'm not contesting the general validity of the thesis, just that beginning in such a manner attempts to rhetorically invalidate any contrary disposition without sufficient proof or qualification.

"You're are/have been wrong. You have been trying to be right, and so you have been wrong. Once you learn that wrong is right, then you can learn to be wrong, and so be right."

Let's not forget the unspoken (but heavily implied) "I, the author, am right."