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Tesla_WTC_Solution
25th October 2013, 18:51
Some people think that life started on Earth. Well, of course, there must have been a beginning somewhere -- but the trouble with hindsight in the absence of a constant and present observer (us) is that we tend to count the "trend toward a proliferation of life" as being more important than the actual "source" of life.

I feel that many scientists have questions which may be quite difficult to answer until interest in the funding of space exploration increases. Quite a lot of people are content spending their money on food, games, pleasure -- and not research. There is not enough interest in or effort toward solving the riddle of how life arises in a Solar System like our own.

I Googled "effect of strong rotating magnetic fields on DNA" this morning or last night. That search yields a lot of troublesome information that I am currently unable to interpret. However, some of the pages linked to that search were quite interesting -- in the context of the Cassini missions to Saturn and Titan that I mentioned in my thread yesterday or the day before (about the Pharaohs' inclusion of the Golden Mean Spiral in the Pyramid design, the link between the spiral and trajectories taken by spacecraft performing gravity assisted flybys in order to reach the outer planets).

Well, I guess what got me going on this next thread which we are reading now is, most people know that Saturn has a very strange and powerful magnetic field:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetosphere_of_Saturn

The magnetosphere of Saturn is the cavity created in the flow of the solar wind by the planet's internally generated magnetic field. Discovered in 1979 by the Pioneer 11 spacecraft, Saturn's magnetosphere is the second largest of any planet in the Solar System after Jupiter. The magnetopause, the boundary between Saturn's magnetosphere and the solar wind, is located at a distance of about 20 Saturn radii from the planet's center, while its magnetotail stretches hundreds of radii behind it.

Saturn's magnetosphere is filled with plasmas originating from both the planet and its moons. The main source is the small moon Enceladus, which ejects as much as 1,000 kg/s of water vapor from the geysers on its south pole, a portion of which is ionized and forced to co-rotate with the Saturn’s magnetic field. This loads the field with as much as 100 kg of water group ions per second. This plasma gradually moves out from the inner magnetosphere via the interchange instability mechanism and then escapes through the magnetotail.


The interaction between Saturn's magnetosphere and the solar wind generates bright oval aurorae around the planet's poles observed in visible, infrared and ultraviolet light. The aurorae are related to the powerful saturnian kilometric radiation (SKR), which spans the frequency interval between 100 kHz to 1300 kHz and was once thought to modulate with a period equal to the planet's rotation. However, later measurements showed that the periodicity of the SKR's modulation varies by as much as 1%, and so probably does not exactly coincide with Saturn’s true rotational period, which as of 2010 remains unknown. Inside the magnetosphere there are radiation belts, which house particles with energy as high as tens of Megaelectronvolts. The energetic particles have significant influence on the surfaces of inner icy moons of Saturn.

In 1980–1981 the magnetosphere of Saturn was studied by the Voyager spacecraft. As of 2010 it is a subject of the ongoing investigation by Cassini mission, which arrived in 2004.

You can see that because of Saturn's moons being able to maintain a fairly constant exhalation of water and other vapors, and while these vapors and other building blocks of life interact with Saturn's large magnetic field while also encountering events relatively anomalous to the production of life, like plasmas, there is great potential in the Saturn system -- because of its inherent conditions -- to produce life forms.

One of the studies I glanced at regarding the effects of electron spin and DNA:


http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2011/feb/17/dna-puts-a-new-spin-on-electrons

DNA puts a new spin on electrons
Feb 17, 2011

Benefits of DNA
Looking ahead, Naaman believes that spin devices based on organic materials such as DNA could offer several benefits. One is that spin-polarized currents should travel further in such materials – compared with metals – because the strength of the spin–orbit coupling is much smaller and because the spins are less likely to interact with vibrations in the material. Another benefit is that the ends of the DNA can be modified with a wide range of chemicals, which could make it possible to connect DNA devices to spintronic circuits in such a way that the spin polarization is not degraded at the connection.

However, Rikken is more cautious about the work. "I do not think that DNA films would be a welcome component in spintronic devices," he says. But he does think that other chiral structures could find application in spintronics – if chirality is found to be the mechanism behind the filtering, that is.

Beyond spintronics, the discovery that DNA has a strong effect on electron spin suggests that spin interactions could also play a role in some biological processes. Indeed, Naaman believes that studies of spin in biomolecules could shed light on poorly understood low-energy biochemical processes that occur in nature.

The spin filter is described in Science 331 894.

About the author
Hamish Johnston is editor of physicsworld.com


It says in that paper that "spin interactions may also play a role in some biological processes".

My theory is that the dynamically electric layers of ions and other interactions of substances present between the surface of Saturn and the surface of its relative moons may create an environment that gives rise to novel types of microbial life.

Many other scientists expect to find life near Saturn.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(moon)#Methane_and_life_at_the_surface

Methane and life at the surface

See also: Hypothetical types of biochemistry

It has been suggested that life could exist in the lakes of liquid methane on Titan, just as organisms on Earth live in water.[132] Such creatures would inhale H2 in place of O2, metabolize it with acetylene instead of glucose, and exhale methane instead of carbon dioxide.[132][133]

Although all living things on Earth (including methanogens) use liquid water as a solvent, it is speculated that life on Titan might instead use a liquid hydrocarbon, such as methane or ethane.[134] Water is a stronger solvent than methane.[135] However, water is also more chemically reactive, and can break down large organic molecules through hydrolysis.[134] A life-form whose solvent was a hydrocarbon would not face the risk of its biomolecules being destroyed in this way.[134]

In 2005, astrobiologist Chris McKay argued that if methanogenic life did exist on the surface of Titan, it would likely have a measurable effect on the mixing ratio in the Titan troposphere: levels of hydrogen and acetylene would be measurably lower than otherwise expected.[132]

In 2010, Darrell Strobel, from Johns Hopkins University, identified a greater abundance of molecular hydrogen in the upper atmospheric layers of Titan compared to the lower layers, arguing for a downward flow at a rate of roughly 1025 molecules per second and disappearance of hydrogen near Titan's surface; as Strobel noted, his findings were in line with the effects McKay had predicted if methanogenic life-forms were present.[132][135][136] The same year, another study showed low levels of acetylene on Titan's surface, which were interpreted by McKay as consistent with the hypothesis of organisms consuming hydrocarbons.[135] Although restating the biological hypothesis, he cautioned that other explanations for the hydrogen and acetylene findings are more likely: the possibilities of yet unidentified physical or chemical processes (e.g., a surface catalyst accepting hydrocarbons or hydrogen), or flaws in the current models of material flow.[137] Composition data and transport models need to be substantiated, and per Occam's razor, a physical or chemical explanation is preferred a priori over one of biology (given the simplicity of chemical catalysts versus the complexity of biological forms). Even so, McKay noted that the discovery of a catalyst effective at 95 K (−180 °C) would still be significant.[125]

As NASA notes in its news article on the June 2010 findings: "To date, methane-based life forms are only hypothetical. Scientists have not yet detected this form of life anywhere".[135] As the NASA statement also says: "some scientists believe these chemical signatures bolster the argument for a primitive, exotic form of life or precursor to life on Titan's surface."[135]

I think it's possible that the surface is the wrong place to look for life in some cases. NASA already knows this, and you can deduce the reason for atmospheric balloon research on Titan and other moons.

Those of you familiar with Michael Crichton's "THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN" already understand that life has potential to be found at ALL levels of material existence, from the densest star's heart to the absolute cold between them. The upper atmosphere is a wonderful place to look for life on other planets and their moons, in fact. This region could be the fountainhead of microbial evolution, given the right conditions.

Given conditions like Saturn and its very special moons...

How many people in this section of the forum have read James P Hogan's "CRADLE OF SATURN"? Yet another great scientist and novelist tackles the question of whether conditions near Saturn are not more capable of producing and sustaining life in the long run than those on Earth.

Perhaps Earth is a temporary holding station for life, and not its source. Much as asteroids may contain gold and other metals, but did not produce them -- stars produced them -- Earth holds life, but likely cannot claim responsibility for having produced all of it.


http://www.quantumday.com/2013/09/presence-of-atmosphere-and-water-on.html

Novel experimental approaches for fundamental studies of laboratory astrochemistry

Arthur Suits, Bernadette M. Broderick, Yumin Lee, James Oldham, Kirill Prozument, Chamara Abeysekara, Barratt Park, Robert W. Field.
Department of Chemistry
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI 48202, United States

Chemistry
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Cambridge, MA 02139, United States

Two novel techniques enabling diverse probes of the chemistry of the atmospheres of outer planets are being developed in our laboratories. The study of spin-polarized hydrogen atoms which result from photodissociation of molecules offers a powerful new means of unraveling complex photochemical processes in polyatomic molecules. Examination of the detailed speed-dependent H-atom spin polarization is achieved by determining the projection of the electron spin onto the probe laser direction. In doing so, its angular distribution, complex dissociation pathways, and coherent excitation mechanisms may be revealed. Here we have adapted the H atom Rydberg tagging technique with its extraordinary velocity resolution to give the velocity-dependent H atom spin polarization. The methodology described herein serves as a general probe of multi-surface nonadiabatic dynamics, sensitive to coherent effects in dissociation along multiple paths, and is applicable to a wide range of astrochemically-relevant polyatomic systems.

I found another blog just now that raises the question this thread is raising:
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/08/is-the-atmosphere-of-saturns-moon-titan-capable-of-evolving-dna-todays-most-popular.html

August 25, 2011
Is the Atmosphere of Saturn's Moon, Titan Capable of Evolving DNA? (Today's Most Popular)

Saturn's moon Titan has many of the components for life without liquid water. But the orange hydrocarbon haze that shrouds the planet's largest moon could be creating the molecules that make up DNA without the help of water – an ingredient widely thought to be necessary for the molecules' formation according to a recent study.

As Paul Davies, a leading authority in astrobiology, director of BEYOND: Center for Fundamental Concepts in Science and co-director of the ASU Cosmology Initiative, says: "To the best of our knowledge, the original chemicals chosen by known life on Earth do not constitute a unique set; other choices could have been made, and maybe were made if life started elsewhere many times."

The researchers warn however that although Titan's atmosphere is creating these molecules, that doesn't mean that the molecules are combining to form life, But the finding could entice astrobiologists to consider a wider range of extrasolar planets as potential hosts for at least simple forms of organic life, the team of scientists from the US and France suggests.

The findings also suggest that billions of years ago Earth's upper atmosphere – not just the so-called primordial soup on the surface – may have been the sources for these "prebiotic" molecules, amino acids and the so-called nucleotide bases that make up DNA.


And a great Wikipedia page:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_types_of_biochemistry

Hypothetical types of biochemistry are forms of biochemistry speculated to be scientifically viable but not proven to exist at this time. While the kinds of living beings currently known on Earth commonly use carbon for basic structural and metabolic functions, water as a solvent and DNA or RNA to define and control their form, it may be possible that undiscovered life-forms could exist that differ radically in their basic structures and biochemistry from that known to science.

The possibility of extraterrestrial life being based on these "alternative" biochemistries is a common subject in science fiction, but is also discussed in a non-fiction scientific context.

...

The ammonia molecule (NH3), like the water molecule, is abundant in the universe, being a compound of hydrogen (the simplest and most common element) with another very common element, nitrogen.[35] The possible role of liquid ammonia as an alternative solvent for life is an idea that goes back at least to 1954, when J.B.S. Haldane raised the topic at a symposium about life's origin.[36]

Numerous chemical reactions are possible in an ammonia solution, and liquid ammonia has chemical similarities with water.[35][37] Ammonia can dissolve most organic molecules at least as well as water does and, in addition, it is capable of dissolving many elemental metals. Haldane made the point that various common water-related organic compounds have ammonia-related analogs; for instance the ammonia-related amine group (-NH2) is analogous to the water-related alcohol group (-OH).[37]

Ammonia, like water, can either accept or donate an H+ ion. When ammonia accepts an H+, it forms the ammonium cation (NH4+), analogous to hydronium (H3O+). When it donates an H+ ion, it forms the amide anion (NH2−), analogous to the hydroxide anion (OH−).[27] Compared to water, however, ammonia is more inclined to accept an H+ ion, and less inclined to donate one; it is a stronger nucleophile.[27] Ammonia added to water functions as Arrhenius base: it increases the concentration of the anion hydroxide. Conversely, using a solvent system definition of acidity and basicity, water added to liquid ammonia functions as an acid, because it increases the concentration of the cation ammonium.[37] The carbonyl group (C=O), which is much used in terrestrial biochemistry, would not be stable in ammonia solution, but the analogous imine group (C=N) could be used instead.[27]

However, ammonia has some problems as a basis for life. The hydrogen bonds between ammonia molecules are weaker than those in water, causing ammonia's heat of vaporization to be half that of water, its surface tension to be a third, and reducing its ability to concentrate non-polar molecules through a hydrophobic effect. Gerald Feinberg and Robert Shapiro have questioned whether ammonia could hold prebiotic molecules together well enough to allow the emergence of a self-reproducing system.[38] Ammonia is also flammable in oxygen, and could not exist sustainably in an environment suitable for aerobic metabolism.[39]

A biosphere based on ammonia would likely exist at temperatures or air pressures that are extremely unusual in relation to life on Earth. Life on Earth usually exists within the melting point and boiling point of water at normal pressure, between 0 °C (273 K) and 100 °C (373 K); at normal pressure ammonia's melting and boiling points are between −78 °C (195 K) and −33 °C (240 K). Chemical reactions generally proceed more slowly at a lower temperature, therefore liquid-ammonia life, if it exists, might metabolize more slowly and evolve more slowly than life on Earth.[39] On the other hand, lower temperatures could also enable living systems to use chemical species which at Earth temperatures would be too unstable to be useful.[35]

Ammonia could be a liquid at Earth-like temperatures, but at much higher pressures; for example, at 60 atm, ammonia melts at −77 °C (196 K) and boils at 98 °C (371 K).[27]

Ammonia and ammonia–water mixtures remain liquid at temperatures far below the freezing point of pure water, so such biochemistries might be well suited to planets and moons orbiting outside the water-based habitability zone. Such conditions could exist, for example, under the surface of Saturn's largest moon Titan.[40]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Ammonia_World.jpg/600px-Ammonia_World.jpg


Methane (CH4) is a simple hydrocarbon: that is, a compound of two of the most common elements in the cosmos, hydrogen and carbon. It has a cosmic abundance comparable with ammonia.[35] Hydrocarbons could act as a solvent over a wide range of temperatures, but would lack polarity. Isaac Asimov, the biochemist and science fiction writer, suggested in 1981 that poly-lipids could form a substitute for proteins in a non-polar solvent such as methane.[35] Lakes composed of a mixture of hydrocarbons, including methane and ethane, have been detected on Titan by the Cassini spacecraft.

There is debate about the effectiveness of methane and other hydrocarbons as a medium for life compared to water or ammonia.[41] Water is a stronger solvent than the hydrocarbons, enabling easier transport of substances in a cell.[42] However, water is also more chemically reactive, and can break down large organic molecules through hydrolysis.[41] A life-form whose solvent was a hydrocarbon would not face the threat of its biomolecules being destroyed in this way.[41] Also, the water molecule's tendency to form strong hydrogen bonds can interfere with internal hydrogen bonding in complex organic molecules.[34] Life with a hydrocarbon solvent could make more use of hydrogen bonds within its biomolecules.[41] Moreover, the strength of hydrogen bonds within biomolecules would be appropriate to a low temperature biochemistry.[41]

Astrobiologist Chris McKay has argued, on thermodynamic grounds, that if life does exist on Titan's surface, using hydrocarbons as a solvent, it is likely also to use the more complex hydrocarbons as an energy source by reacting them with hydrogen, reducing ethane and acetylene to methane.[43] Possible evidence for this form of life on Titan was identified in 2010 by Darrell Strobel of Johns Hopkins University; a greater abundance of molecular hydrogen in the upper atmospheric layers of Titan compared to the lower layers, arguing for a downward diffusion at a rate of roughly 1025 molecules per second and disappearance of hydrogen near Titan's surface. As Strobel noted, his findings were in line with the effects Chris McKay had predicted if methanogenic life-forms were present.[42][43][44] The same year, another study showed low levels of acetylene on Titan's surface, which were interpreted by Chris McKay as consistent with the hypothesis of organisms reducing acetylene to methane.[42] While restating the biological hypothesis, McKay cautioned that other explanations for the hydrogen and acetylene findings are to be considered more likely: the possibilities of yet unidentified physical or chemical processes (e.g., a non-living surface catalyst enabling acetylene to react with hydrogen), or flaws in the current models of material flow.[45] He noted that even a non-biological catalyst, effective at 95 Kelvin, would in itself be a startling discovery.[45]

(While Mars is not known to have liquid methane, methane gas in its atmosphere is of astrobiological interest as a substance that might be produced by living organisms.[46] See Life on Mars.)

I thought the same thing about Mars. People tend to remember the thing about methane on Mars accounting for the color of its sunrise and sunset. Isn't it blue, when viewed from the surface of Mars?

It is possible that when the surface water of Mars receded into the Ice caps and presumably into locked underground pools (similar to pre-deluge earth I guess), methane-producing life diminished but did not entirely disappear.

There is enough of the gas to account for what a hypothetical "remnant" of Mars' former repertoire of life-forms might produce -- but these "unseen" life-forms are practically in the realm of crytozoology at this point, because a surface soil sample isn't the same as drilling into the crust to access water.

"Water is life" ~DUNE

I hope some of the above information made sense together; life on other planets is something that is starting to really interest me.

In the context of writing about Titan and life on other world right before the NASA feed account posted about the Cassini mission to Titan this week, I am a little bit freaked out!

:)

GloriousPoetry
25th October 2013, 19:06
Tesla,

Thank you for posting this thread.....fascinating information....cosmic knowledge is what I am interested in acquiring these days....I feel there is so much truth we have yet to figure out about our solar system that is innately tied to our planet earth and our biological makeup.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
26th October 2013, 17:06
Tesla,

Thank you for posting this thread.....fascinating information....cosmic knowledge is what I am interested in acquiring these days....I feel there is so much truth we have yet to figure out about our solar system that is innately tied to our planet earth and our biological makeup.
Thank you for this!

Lots of guys who study space science, apparently they believe that microbes can form and live in the atmosphere, not just the ocean!

There are strange conditions in the atmospheres of planets and certain moons that may be key in building DNA and other forms of genetic code

Tesla_WTC_Solution
4th November 2013, 23:14
http://news.yahoo.com/habitable-earth-size-planets-common-across-universe-study-203249643.html

Habitable Earth-Size Planets Common Across the Universe, Study Suggests
SPACE.com By By Tanya Lewis, Staff Writer
2 hours ago


Habitable alien planets similar to Earth may not be that rare in the universe, a new study suggests.

About one in five sunlike stars observed by NASA's planet-hunting Kepler spacecraft has an Earth-size planet in the so-called habitable zone, where liquid water — and, potentially life — could exist, according to the new study. If these results apply elsewhere in the galaxy, the nearest such planet could be just 12 light-years away.

"Human beings have been looking at the stars for thousands of years," said study researcher Erik Petigura, a graduate student at the University of California, Berkeley (UC Berkeley). "How many of those stars have planets that are in some way like Earth? We're very excited today to start to answer that question," Petigura told SPACE.com.

The findings, detailed today (Nov. 4) in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and in a video describing the frequency of Earth-like planets, say nothing about whether these planets actually support life — only that they meet some of the known criteria for habitability. [9 Exoplanets That Could Host Alien Life]

"I think it's by far the most trustable estimate available, but I don't think it's final," said Francois Fressin, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics who was not involved with the study.

To find these Earth-size exoplanets, Petigura and his colleagues used Kepler's measurements of stellar brightness to look for signs of dimming, known as transits, as planets crossed in front of their host star.

Taking a planet census

View gallery."Habitable Earth-Size Planets Common Across the Universe, …
This image shows field of view of NASA's Kepler space telescope, which stared at a single region of …
Petigura and his colleagues painstakingly developed software to sift through Kepler's mammoth data set. The spacecraft's field of view includes about 150,000 stars, but most of these fluctuate in brightness too much for a planet to be detectable. The team examined 42,000 of the "quietest" stars, finding 603 planet candidates around these stars, 10 of which were Earth-size and lay in the habitable zone.

The team defined Earth-size planets as ones having a radius one to two times that of Earth. Planets were considered to be in the habitable zone if they received about as much light as the Earth does from the sun (within a factor of four). [7 Ways to Discover Alien Planets]

They used the Keck I telescope in Hawaii to take spectra of the stars, in order to pin down the radii of the planets.

But this wasn't the end of the story. Just as taking a census requires some statistical corrections for the people the survey misses, the researchers had to make corrections for planets Kepler missed.

The transit method of finding planets, by definition, only detects planets orbiting in the same plane of view as their host star, which includes just a fraction of the total number of planets. Study researcher Geoff Marcy of UC Berkeley compared planetary orbits to papers fluttering through the air. Very few are going to be edge-on, he said.

Secondly, the analysis misses some planets simply because the tiny amount of starlight they block makes them tricky to detect. To correct for this, the researchers inserted "fake planets" into the data so they could see how many their software would miss.

The analysis was a "Herculean task," Marcy said.

After making these corrections, the researchers had their result: About 22 percent of sunlike stars observed by Kepler have Earth-size, potentially habitable planets.

View gallery."Habitable Earth-Size Planets Common Across the Universe, …
Analysis of four years of precision measurements from NASA's planet-hunting Kepler spacecraft shows …
Chances for life

The researchers were quick to point out that the fact that these planets are Earth-size and lie in the habitable zone does not mean they could support life. The planets might have scorching-hot atmospheres, or no atmospheres at all, they said. Even if the planets have all the basic ingredients for life, scientists don't know the probability that life would ever get started.

The definition of Earth-size planets in this study was pretty broad, Fressin said. For instance, a planet that has a radius twice the size of Earth's might not even be rocky, he said.

Kepler mission scientist Natalie Batalha, an astronomer at NASA's Ames Research Center who was not involved with the study, agrees it's a generous definition. Rocky planets with a radius about 1 to 1.5 times the size of Earth's have been found, but the fraction of larger planets that are rocky is probably much lower, Batalha told SPACE.com. Still, it's a fair start, she said.

"Kepler's prime objective was to understand the prevalence of habitable planets in the galaxy," Batalha said at a news conference. "This is the first time a team has offered such a number for stars like the sun."

The researchers had to extrapolate the number of planets with orbits longer than 200 days, because these haven't been detected in the Kepler data. "Ideally, we won't rely on extrapolations," Batalha said. "But as a first cut, this is a valid thing to do."

Last week, Marcy and his colleagues reported the discovery of the alien planet Kepler-78b, a rocky world nearly the same size and density as the Earth. But Kepler-78b hugs its star at a distance far too close and hot to be habitable, with surface temperatures of about 3,680 degrees Fahrenheit (2,027 degrees Celsius).

Kepler went out of commission in May, after the loss of a wheel used for pointing the spacecraft. Nevertheless, scientists will mine Kepler data for decades to look for potentially habitable planets.

"Maybe with future instruments, we could actually image these planets," Petigura said.

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Tesla_WTC_Solution
4th November 2013, 23:20
There was a creepy coincidence I wanted to share with you guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler-22b

The only parameters of the planet's orbit that are currently available are its period, which is about 290 days, and its inclination, which is approximately 90°, so that it transits the disk of its star as seen from Earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_of_the_Sun

The Gate of the Sun is a megalithic solid stone arch or gateway constructed by the ancient Tiwanaku culture of Bolivia over 1500 years before the present.[1]

It is located near Lake Titicaca at about 3,825 m above sea level near La Paz, Bolivia. The object is approximately 9.8 ft (3.0 m) tall and 13 ft (4.0 m) wide, and is constructed from a single piece of stone. The weight is estimated to be 10 tons.[2] When rediscovered by European explorers in the mid-19th century, the megalith was lying horizontally and had a large crack going through it. It currently stands in the same location where it was found, although it is believed that this is not its original location, which remains uncertain.[3]

http://www.viewzone.com/tiax.html

The most famous icon of the archaeological site at Tiahuanaco is the Sun Gate. This structure has been described as a "calendar" almost as long as the monolithic gateway has been known to exist; thus the Sun Gate has also been called 'the Calendar Gate'. This calendar sculpture, though it undoubtedly depicts a "solar year," cannot however be made to fit into the solar year as we divide it at present. The calendar has only 290 days, divided into 12 "twelfths" of 24 days each, plus 2 intercalary days.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
13th December 2013, 05:44
Big update on Saturn's Moon Titan!
I am more than a little bit creeped out, LMAO!

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/docs/PIA17655.jpg

NASA's Cassini Spacecraft Reveals Clues About Saturn's Moon Titan
NASA's Cassini Spacecraft Reveals Clues About Saturn's Moon Titan
12 Dec 2013
(Source: NASA JPL)


http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/images/PIA17655_720.jpg

Color image showing lakes on Titan.


This colorized mosaic from NASA's Cassini mission shows the most complete view yet of Titan's northern land of lakes and seas. Saturn's moon Titan is the only world in our solar system other than Earth that has stable liquid on its surface. The liquid in Titan's lakes and seas is mostly methane and ethane.



NASA's Cassini spacecraft is providing scientists with key clues about Saturn's moon Titan, and in particular, its hydrocarbon lakes and seas.

Titan is one of the most Earth-like places in the solar system, and the only place other than our planet that has stable liquid on its surface.

Cassini's recent close flybys are bringing into sharper focus a region in Titan's northern hemisphere that sparkles with almost all of the moon's seas and lakes. Scientists working with the spacecraft's radar instrument have put together the most detailed multi-image mosaic of that region to date. The image includes all the seas and most of the major lakes. Some of the flybys tracked over areas that previously were seen at a different angle, so researchers have been able to create a flyover of the area around Titan's largest and second largest seas, known as Kraken Mare and Ligeia Mare, respectively, and some of the nearby lakes.

"Learning about surface features like lakes and seas helps us to understand how Titan's liquids, solids and gases interact to make it so Earth-like," said Steve Wall, acting radar team lead at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "While these two worlds aren't exactly the same, it shows us more and more Earth-like processes as we get new views."

These new images show Kraken Mare is more extensive and complex than previously thought. They also show nearly all of the lakes on Titan fall into an area covering about 600 miles by 1,100 miles (900 kilometers by 1,800 kilometers). Only 3 percent of the liquid at Titan falls outside of this area.

"Scientists have been wondering why Titan's lakes are where they are. These images show us that the bedrock and geology must be creating a particularly inviting environment for lakes in this box," said Randolph Kirk, a Cassini radar team member at the U.S. Geological Survey in Flagstaff, Ariz. "We think it may be something like the formation of the prehistoric lake called Lake Lahontan near Lake Tahoe in Nevada and California, where deformation of the crust created fissures that could be filled up with liquid."

A creative application of a method previously used to analyze data at Mars also revealed that Ligeia Mare is about 560 feet (170 meters) deep. This is the first time scientists have been able to plumb the bottom of a lake or sea on Titan. This was possible partly because the liquid turned out to be very pure, allowing the radar signal to pass through it easily. The liquid surface may be as smooth as the paint on our cars, and it is very clear to radar eyes.

The new results indicate the liquid is mostly methane, somewhat similar to a liquid form of natural gas on Earth.

"Ligeia Mare turned out to be just the right depth for radar to detect a signal back from the sea floor, which is a signal we didn't think we'd be able to get," said Marco Mastrogiuseppe, a Cassini radar team associate at Sapienza University of Rome. "The measurement we made shows Ligeia to be deeper in at least one place than the average depth of Lake Michigan."

One implication is that Cassini scientists now can estimate the total volume of the liquids on Titan. Based on Mastrogiuseppe's work, calculations made by Alexander Hayes, of Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y., show there are about 2,000 cubic miles (9,000 cubic kilometers) of liquid hydrocarbon, about 40 times more than in all the proven oil reservoirs on Earth.

As Cassini gets closer to northern summer in the Saturn system, mission scientists look forward to potentially the most exciting time for weather at Titan's northern hemisphere.

The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency, and the Italian Space Agency. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. JPL designed, developed and assembled the Cassini orbiter. JPL and the Italian Space Agency, working with team members from the US and several European countries, built the radar instrument.

For more information about Cassini and its mission, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/cassini and http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov .

Tesla_WTC_Solution
6th March 2014, 07:18
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/images/IMG0049911.jpg

Cassini Nears 100th Titan Flyby with a Look Back
Cassini Nears 100th Titan Flyby with a Look Back
5 Mar 2014
(Source: NASA/JPL)


Cassini 100th Flyby of Titan/Celebratory graphic of Cassini's 100th Flyby of Titan


During this flyby the Radio Science Subsystem instrument (RSS) team carries out a Titan Gravity science observation, one of only three in the entire Solstice Mission.



Ten years ago, we knew Titan as a fuzzy orange ball about the size of Mercury. We knew it had a nitrogen atmosphere -- the only known world with a thick nitrogen atmosphere besides Earth. But what might lie beneath the hazy air was still just a guess.

On March 6, NASA's Cassini spacecraft will swoop down within 933 miles (1,500 kilometers) of Titan to conduct its 100th flyby of the Saturn moon. Each flyby gives us a little more knowledge of Titan and its striking similarities to our world. Even with its cold surface temperatures of minus 290 degrees Fahrenheit (94 kelvins), Titan is like early Earth in a deep freeze.

Since its 2004 arrival at Saturn, Cassini's radar instrument has identified remarkable surface features on Titan. The features include lakes and seas made of liquid methane and ethane, which are larger than North America's Great Lakes, and an extensive layer of liquid water deep beneath the surface. Organic molecules abound in Titan's atmosphere, formed from the breakup of methane by solar radiation.

A recent innovation was the discovery that radar could be used to determine the depth of a Titan sea. "It's something we didn't think we could do before," said Michael Malaska, an affiliate of the Cassini radar team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "The radar can measure the depth by receiving two different bounces: one from the surface and one from the bottom of the sea. This technique was used to determine that Ligeia Mare, the second largest sea on Titan, is about 160 meters [525 feet] deep. When coupled with some laboratory experiments, it gives us information about the composition of the liquid in Ligeia Mare, too."

As spring turns to summer in Titan's northern hemisphere for the first time since Cassini arrived at Saturn, scientists are looking forward to entering potentially the most exciting time for Titan weather - with waves and winds picking up. With increasing sunlight, the north polar lakes and seas can now be seen in near-infrared images, enabling scientists to learn more about their composition and giving them clues about the surrounding terrain.

"Methane is not only in the atmosphere, but probably in the crust," said Jonathan Lunine, a scientist on the Cassini mission at Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. "It's a hint there are organics not only in Titan's air and on the surface, but even in the deep interior, where liquid water exists as well. Organics are the building blocks of life, and if they are in contact with liquid water, there could be a chance of finding some form of life."

Linda Spilker, Cassini project scientist at JPL, speculated on the type of life that could exist. "The astrobiological potential for Titan is two-fold," she said. "Could a unique form of methane-based life exist in Titan's liquid lakes and seas? With a global ocean of liquid water beneath its icy crust, could life exist in Titan's subsurface ocean?"

Although the official Cassini mission name for this flyby is T-99, it is, in fact, the 100th targeted Titan flyby of the mission. Why the discrepancy? An extra flyby was inserted early in the mission, after the Titan flybys had been named.

For additional details on this 100th flyby, visit: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/flybys/titan20140306/

For more information about Cassini, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/cassini and http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov

The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington.

Gay Hill
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
818-354-0344
gay.y.hill@jpl.nasa.gov

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Davidallany
16th April 2014, 17:34
Some people think that life started on Earth. Well, of course, there must have been a beginning somewhere -- but the trouble with hindsight in the absence of a constant and present observer (us) is that we tend to count the "trend toward a proliferation of life" as being more important than the actual "source" of life.This is an excellent point TWS. Indeed most people do concentrate on securing food, spending money and/or accumulating wealth (possessions), the more the better. This is because of the insecurities that humans among other terrestrial species suffer from. The only disadvantage that I can think of now, is the vicious manipulation and intellectual enslavement that the control groups exert upon the rest of Humanity.
Having said that, I must indicate that there are those very few humans who have the courage to break through the artificially engineered barriers and continue pushing all of us forward to an unknown grounds, of social, scientific/spiritual and economic realizations. I see some of them right here, on Avalon.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
16th April 2014, 18:14
Some people think that life started on Earth. Well, of course, there must have been a beginning somewhere -- but the trouble with hindsight in the absence of a constant and present observer (us) is that we tend to count the "trend toward a proliferation of life" as being more important than the actual "source" of life.This is an excellent point TWS. Indeed most people do concentrate on securing food, spending money and/or accumulating wealth (possessions), the more the better. This is because of the insecurities that humans among other terrestrial species suffer from. The only disadvantage that I can think of now, is the vicious manipulation and intellectual enslavement that the control groups exert upon the rest of Humanity.
Having said that, I must indicate that there are those very few humans who have the courage to break through the artificially engineered barriers and continue pushing all of us forward to an unknown grounds, of social, scientific/spiritual and economic realizations. I see some of them right here, on Avalon.

:) You are too kind!

Avalon is a GOOD place to present ideas -- because science has to be tempered by morality -- such is the balance of the scales!

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p.s. I also meant that NASA might have been too focused on our own planet, i.e. just because life grows well in our petri dish doesn't mean it originated on earth :)

Tesla_WTC_Solution
29th September 2014, 18:56
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Cassini Watches Mysterious Feature Evolve in Titan Sea

29 Sep 2014
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Mysterious Changing Feature in Ligeia Mare/Three side-by-side images showing the evolution and appearance of a feature on the surface of Titan.


These three images, created from Cassini Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) data, show the appearance and evolution of a mysterious feature in Ligeia Mare, one of the largest hydrocarbon seas on Saturn's moon Titan. Image Credit: NASA/JPL-Caltech/ASI/Cornell



NASA's Cassini spacecraft is monitoring the evolution of a mysterious feature in a large hydrocarbon sea on Saturn's moon Titan. The feature covers an area of about 100 square miles (260 square kilometers) in Ligeia Mare, one of the largest seas on Titan. It has now been observed twice by Cassini's radar experiment, but its appearance changed between the two apparitions.

Images of the feature taken during the Cassini flybys are available at:

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA18430

The mysterious feature, which appears bright in radar images against the dark background of the liquid sea, was first spotted during Cassini's July 2013 Titan flyby. Previous observations showed no sign of bright features in that part of Ligeia Mare. Scientists were perplexed to find the feature had vanished when they looked again, over several months, with low-resolution radar and Cassini's infrared imager. This led some team members to suggest it might have been a transient feature. But during Cassini's flyby on August 21, 2014, the feature was again visible, and its appearance had changed during the 11 months since it was last seen.

Scientists on the radar team are confident that the feature is not an artifact, or flaw, in their data, which would have been one of the simplest explanations. They also do not see evidence that its appearance results from evaporation in the sea, as the overall shoreline of Ligeia Mare has not changed noticeably.

The team has suggested the feature could be surface waves, rising bubbles, floating solids, solids suspended just below the surface, or perhaps something more exotic.

The researchers suspect that the appearance of this feature could be related to changing seasons on Titan, as summer draws near in the moon's northern hemisphere. Monitoring such changes is a major goal for Cassini's current extended mission.

"Science loves a mystery, and with this enigmatic feature, we have a thrilling example of ongoing change on Titan," said Stephen Wall, the deputy team lead of Cassini's radar team, based at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California. "We're hopeful that we'll be able to continue watching the changes unfold and gain insights about what's going on in that alien sea."

The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the European Space Agency and ASI, the Italian Space Agency. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The radar instrument was built by JPL and the Italian Space Agency, working with team members from the United States and several European countries.

For more information about Cassini and its mission, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/cassini

http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov

Preston Dyches
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
818-354-7013
preston.dyches@jpl.nasa.gov

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Tesla_WTC_Solution
20th October 2014, 19:09
Here's a very interesting article about electron beams being emitted from Hyperion toward Saturn:

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/1014/161014_cassini

ZAP! Spacecraft discovers Saturn’s moon Hyperion is charged

16 October 2014

Cassini spacecraft received the equivalent of a 200 volt electric shock from the electrostatically charged surface of Saturn’s moon, Hyperion, confirming that objects in the outer Solar System can have charged surfaces, according to UCL research.
Hyperion

The study, published in Geophysical Research Letters, reports that Cassini was briefly magnetically connected to the surface of Hyperion, allowing it to be caught by a beam of electrons coming from the moon’s surface. Static electricity is known to play an important role on Earth’s airless, dusty Moon, but evidence of surface charging on other objects in the Solar System has been elusive until now.

The finding supports predictions that many different bodies including asteroids, moons and the surface of comets may be charged, which has wide-ranging implications, say the team. For example, astronauts may be at risk from strong electrostatic discharges when exploring planetary objects without atmospheres, like Earth’s Moon.

Hyperion is an irregularly shaped outer moon of Saturn, about 133 km wide, with a bizarre, sponge-like appearance owing to its unusually porous interior. The team believe it becomes charged when exposed to UV light from the Sun and plasma, which contains charged particles, in Saturn’s magnetosphere – the invisible, movable bubble generated by the planet’s internal magnetic field.

It was rather like Cassini receiving a 200 volt electric shock from Hyperion, even though they were over 2000 km apart at the time. The alignment between the two was just right for us to be able to detect this fairly rare event. If Cassini had been in a different location during the flyby, the electron beam would not have been detected.

Tom Nordheim

The unexpected measurements happened on September 26th 2005, when Cassini conducted its only close targeted flyby of Hyperion. Scientists at the time realised that something odd was happening, but the evidence of Hyperion’s charging only became clear when PhD student Tom Nordheim at the UCL Mullard Space Science Laboratory (MSSL) revisited data from past flybys whilst studying the interaction between Saturn's magnetosphere and its many icy moons.

Approximately 6 minutes before the closest approach, the Cassini Plasma Spectrometer (CAPS) on board the spacecraft detected a sharp increase in the number of negatively charged particles. These electrons were in the form of a beam coming from the direction of Hyperion. At the same time, Cassini’s Radio and Plasma Wave instrument detected intense plasma wave fluctuations caused by the electron beam.

Data from several Cassini instruments were involved in this work, but the electron spectrometer (ELS), part of the CAPS that detected the electron beam was built at MSSL in a project led by Professor Andrew Coates.

Lead author of the study, Tom Nordheim (UCL MSSL), said: “We know that objects in space, including Earth’s Moon, may become electrostatically charged by exposure to solar ultraviolet light and incoming charged particles. This is comparable to what happens when you rub your hair against a balloon, or when a shirt or blouse rubs against a sweater.

“The large difference in potential between the surface and the spacecraft resulted in a flow of electrons being accelerated from Hyperion toward Cassini. It was rather like Cassini receiving a 200 volt electric shock from Hyperion, even though they were over 2000 km apart at the time. The alignment between the two was just right for us to be able to detect this fairly rare event. If Cassini had been in a different location during the flyby, the electron beam would not have been detected.”

Co-author, Dr Geraint Jones (UCL MSSL), added: “Surface charging as a fundamental phenomenon affecting planetary objects is currently not well understood and while it has been observed on Earth’s Moon, the Saturn system presents us with an opportunity to study this effect in an environment where many parameters are completely different. Our observations show that this is also an important effect at outer planet moons and we need to take this into account when studying how these moons interact with their environment.”


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When we finally discover the truth about how delicate, how chancy, how complicated is this process of the origin of life,
we will have to re-evaluate everything we believe about evolution.