Are dogs the closest we will get to true unconditional Love?

[dpwishy]

I was riding a pretty high crest of life the last few months, my business exploded, everything seemed to be going great but I also braced myself for the trough to come. True intelligence is knowing that the only constant we can count on in this existence is impermanence. As we ride the highest crest we must be aware that soon enough the trough will come. Life is crest and troughs, crest and troughs....

I landed this huge interior job on a 1780's farm house. Its something like 17-20 rooms, all horse hair plaster. In the beginning it seemed like a huge gift from the universe. It was a job that I believed would have brought 10 grand in profit in as little as 2 weeks of work. I used the money I got on the signing check and also completely drained my saving to buy a new truck. I was driving a 93 dodge dakota and it was a piece. It worked and I am not a material person so I used it for 3-4 years to grow my business. But I was getting to the point where my business was out growing my car and I was losing high end work because of the look of my vehicle. I decided to buy a 03 silverado, extended crew cab. It was in beautiful condition in side and out, all leather, no rust underneath. I test drove it a few times and it seemed wonderful, I even had my mechanic test drive it and he confirmed it was a good purchase.

The job I bid turned out to be a nightmare, I ended up by underbidding by 4 grand which made me take a huge hit in overhead. I didn't see what I was getting into until the work started. Every room needed to be skim coated, what I thought I could spray turned out to be all hand brushing as the owner wanted it done in an order that would not allow me to spray effectively. I took a huge hit. Underbidding by 4 grand and also a job I thought would take 2 weeks, is turning into about a 6 week job. Which obviously kills me in many area's, my other booked work, my over head, money I need to stay a float and so on. At the end of the week the home owner noticed that the paint company mixed the paint wrong, all the rooms I have completed must be painted over. This is how I ended my week, another HUGE setback on a job that had no room for setbacks. We are talking a 15 gallon mistake here...

The truck I bought, the used car salesman had work done to it before he gave it to me. Changed a tie rod which means an alignment was needed after that and a few other things. As soon as I got in the car I felt a vibration and drove back, I got the run around and he told me everything was fine and to keep driving. I was told by two different garages that it was the torque converter on the transmission and I called back the car salesman to talk about the 30 day 1250 miles warranty I had and he completely flipped his sh*t on me. Basically told me to F off. I brought it to another garage and they told me the vibration was actually the drive shaft center support bearing and that the tie rod he put in was a bad part, it seemed it was taken off another truck that was not in as bad of shape in put on mine. So here I am having to replace the drive shaft bearing (which holds the drive shaft in two) the tie rod he replaced and pay for an alignment all over again. This cost me around 600 bucks. My family and friends were amazed how I took it. I never let it get me down, always had a smile. I missed about 1000 dollars in work those days and spent 300 bucks on rental cars getting to and from garages. I was happy to get my truck back Thursday and get back to work. Upon driving the truck the last few days I noticed an rpm surge before it was changing 2-3 gear, it now seems the transmission is slipping and is about to go completely.

I called my lawyer back who is on this guy for the parts I changed and asked him what my legal right is with the warranty or making this guy buy the truck back. Six hundred dollars fixing the truck wasnt that bad, but a 2-3 grand transmission job is where I draw the line. I felt defeated and spiritually low. I used all my spiritual energy in the past week to get through the job and truck problems and not let it effect me but this was the final blow. I came home defeated last night thinking about smoking pot. I haven't smoked in months. I see pot as a huge spiritual trap. At least with drinking you can see the trap it is by how you act. Pot is a tricky trickster, it gives the false sense of spiritual progression all while the user stays stagnant. I have made more progress on my spiritual path and self in the last few months not smoking than the last 5 years smoking. I was an every day smoker for a decade (this is not a thread about the good vs bad of pot so please refrain, this is just my opinion). The thought was going through my mind to smoke to release and then my dogs came up to the couch and showered me in love. I needed it more than ever and I knew they knew. There was no doubt in my mind they knew something was wrong. The desire to smoke lifted as I felt their love and saw this as a test in my path.

The real purpose of this thread is to talk about dogs and that I believe they are the closest we can come to in this reality of true unconditional love on an every day basis. Its not mistake that Dog spells God backwards. I felt so defeated, so spiritually low and these dogs with their unconditional love helped me feel divine love again. My problems are still there, my job and truck are still a nightmare but I felt that everything is going to be ok. There are little things and big things in life and the little things should not cause us to worry. In the end these are little things. I went over the checklist; "I have shelter, check. I have food, check. I have clothing, check". Literally half of the world does not have these things. I will be ok!

I can't even remember what life was like before my dogs, I have two pit bulls. They helped me see last night that Love is truly all that matters. No matter how low you are, love will bring you right back up. Both my dogs are rescues, one stayed in a shelter for over a year because she was a Pit Bull and the stereotype that brings. The other was from Louisiana and we had him shipped 2500 miles to New England as down south has a really bad dog culture with dog fighting. Both my dogs are grateful for their lives and they show me it every day. They know where they came from and what they have now, just as I remember the depression I lived before I came to my spiritual self.

Today I woke up and said thanks to the universe for this experience. I learned a lot from it. For a few days I felt such resentment towards this salesman as I know he knew what he was doing. I started to feel a resentment towards humans in general but something came over me. I got really emotional at work and tried to see what the lesson was here. Is it that I am too naive and try to see God in everyone although most people don't act like it or deserve it? Or was it a lesson in that I am not looking hard enough to find God even in those that try to scam me, who are my spiritual enemies? I came to the conclusion it was the latter and that even though this man did not know who he was on the inside, I did and I still must love him. Although I don't have to be his friend or do business with him ever again, I still must love him as my brother. I thanked the universe for this lesson this morning and also told my self "hey, you just paid off a karmic debt for some bs you pulled in a past life, its not over now but the payment is made, things will get better."

I woke up with a gratefulness for my life, my family, my dogs and the spiritual lessons I have learned. I gave thanks for all these things in my life and felt something lift from my soul. My problems are still there but in the end it never wavered who I was as a being and my core values and in the end this is all that really matters. I thanked God for my dogs as I realized they truly are the closest we will ever get to true unconditional love in this reality. I am not saying my fiance did not play her part but there is something about a dogs love that completely transformed me last night and helped me get back to my core values. That something was unconditional love. Ill always remind my self that Dog spells God backwards. Such a beautiful gift we were given...

These are my dogs. Lucy is the Red nose Female Pitbull, Edward is the black male Pitbull. I honestly felt a sense of fear about posting this picture of me as I have never made a picture of my self public online. But a sense of divine love swept over me and I knew it would be ok. Its time to let go of these fears and start living through the perspective of love, just as my dogs do. Don't mind the jackets on the dogs, its not for looks! Pitbulls only have a single coat of fur, most dogs have a double, thus they are not made for New England temperatures. The coat truly is needed. From my family to yours, Much love....

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In divine friendship,
your brother,
-Michael

[greybeard]

Dogs have a true forgiving love for their human friend.
Its only unconditional to that person or their family.
It does not necessarily encompass any other.
They have their "pet" likes and dislikes of other humans and dogs.
If you have never had a pet dog then you have not experienced the uplifting love that is always available from one--no matter what.

Chris

[childs hood end]

I for one can second your view on the love from a dog...
they have always got time for you with a smile... 24/7...

one thing that always baffles me is how people see the wolf...
mainly in the saying... wolf in sheep's clothing...
how movies have always shown the wolf as evil...
mind you in the twilight saga books the wolf is the defender of man.

they hunted the irish wolf to extinction ?

every dog has a wolfs heart...

wuff wuff.

[greybeard]

Yes the dog is just a domesticated wolf.
There have been stories of wolves looking after very young children---don’t know if it true.
I would like to think so.
One of my favourite author's, Dr David Hawkins, did muscle testing (Kinesology) and from this constructed a scale of consciousness energy.
He claimed that a lot of animals calibrated higher than your average human.
Cats purr and dogs tail wag calibrated very high,
He maintained that you were safer with a certain famous gorilla (cant remember its name) than most humans.
Its in the book Power vs Force---a good read.

Chris

[Flash]

I love dogs too. And cats althouth their form of love is completely different: dogs, love you lov you love you, cats, love me love me love me. lol But my cat knows too when something is wrong.

As for the house you repaired, I have one of these oldies with horse hair iflled plaster and it is always much longer to renovate than one imagines. Mine does not have 20 rooms though lol.

I am pretty sure the owner knows she had you real cheap. i would try to renegotiate the contract asking not to fool a starting Young fellow. And see what it does. I did ask Customer in the past if they pay in order to be working, the answer is always no. Then i say that actually, this is what is happening.

good luck and great that your spirit is up

[EsmaEverheart]

I don't know where I would be if I didn't have my dog. She is just a mongrel rescue dog. There has been times in the 7 years that I have had her that she was the only reason I got out of bed in the mornings. No matter what I have been going through she is always there. I think the Dog Whisper is right in that dogs see our energy and that is why you can't fool a dog if you are sad or angry. They know. Unconditional. That is exactly right!

[pyrangello]

Have 4 labs , 2 are pure and 2 are rescue, they taught me the true meaning of unconditional love after a long journey of life and whats not important and what really is. Last night my yellow lab brought me all 4 of the dog bowls and put them in my lap after all were done eating. She grabbed them one at a time. Yeah what a moment.

[dpwishy]

As for the house you repaired, I have one of these oldies with horse hair iflled plaster and it is always much longer to renovate than one imagines. Mine does not have 20 rooms though lol.

I am pretty sure the owner knows she had you real cheap. i would try to renegotiate the contract asking not to fool a starting Young fellow. And see what it does. I did ask Customer in the past if they pay in order to be working, the answer is always no. Then i say that actually, this is what is happening.

good luck and great that your spirit is up

I have been in business for years, in the end it was my fault for how I bid the job. A sign of an honest contractor is never changing bids once a contract is signed. In a time of shady contractors and where there is no honor, I pride my self and business in this. It's a learning experience so it never happens again and I wouldn't learn if I didn't take a hit.

In divine friendship,
Your brother,
-michael

[EsmaEverheart]

Here is real life story of forgiveness and unconditional love. On a cold night last January, someone shot Buck in the face with birdshot, put him in a garbage bag and tied to a fence post a left to die. Luckily he was found the next morning barely alive and was taken to an emergency vet clinic. The lady who found him started this Facebook page to ask for donations for Buck's care because she didn't have the money to pay his vet bills. Buck still has pellets in his gums and eyes. Buck is blind now. Today Buck goes to schools and other places to teach people about animal cruelity and forgiveness. There is now a foundation that helps injured animals.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/Buckneedsbucks

https://www.facebook.com/#!/TheBuckFoundation

Buck, The dog who wouldn't die.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoMMSxpmU3A

[sheme]

My late hubby and I where in the building and renovation business and worked together most days it is so easy to "work fast in your mind" when you are young . We used to quote 1 third wages 1 third materials 1 third profit + 15% at the least you break even, stay grounded.

My dogs have kept me going without them to care for it would be too easy to give up, they make me laugh and remind me to stay human. Blessings friend, you at least will sleep easy.

[sian]

home would'nt be home without my little dog, he's the life and soul of ever present constant love in our place. warts an' all he never phases, always constant unconditional love, we look after each other but i think he takes care of me in more ways, that he alone knows, more than i. we can learn such wonderful stuff from dogs, here's to the goodness and gifts in life.:)

[Finefeather]

Dogs know no form of love as we think of it. What they display is loyalty and a pack mentality. This appears to be love only because of the seeming obedience they display amongst the 'family' pack...and especially to the alpha in the pack.
Dogs lack the rationality to understand unconditional. Of course if you feed a dog since a puppy it knows where it's bread is buttered and soon learns to rely on you for it's needs.
This leads to a display of natural instinct to protect the pack and especially the alpha from which it receives a place and an environment to live.

Dogs are one of the most advanced animals on the planet right now and many of them are ready for the leap into the human kingdom...from the animal kingdom, from which every human has evolved out of. Domestic dogs...as is the case with other domestic pets, like cats...are specifically incarnating, as group souls, into these forms because of the closeness to humans, from which they are learning and experiencing a higher form of consciousness...the human one.

As humans, we have a divine and honoured task of assisting these young entities who will one day become brothers of ours in the true sense of the word.

The best way to give to these domestic animals is to train them, so that they can begin to instil into their consciousness, right temperament, such as introversion or extroversion, from which point they can become individual entities and break from the group soul of which they are each a part of currently. What this means is that you are not really doing much for your pet if you are just providing a home for it...training in some form is vital for it's growth.

Take care and give love to all beings.
Ray

[Crazy Louie]

To the original poster - In your words of explaining how you have tried hard to love those that have only a material personna - and in your words of seeing the mistakes you made and accepting responsibility - I see part of the spirit of the man that the dogs have come to love without question. do not come up short in seeing how pure your love is that you give them unconditionally.

there will be other jobs - there will be more money centered dead people - the spiritual side to things will continue to be born - but there will be only one Lucy and one Edward - and the rest of their lives will be a big chunk of yours - and that chunk is worth more than anything you could ever bid on.


thank you for sharing your story - a can of purina one smartblend all around!

[RunningDeer]

From my family to yours, Much love....

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-Michael

Beautiful family, Michael

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With love,
Paula :wave:

[Wind]

My dog has been part of my life for the past four years. I always wanted to get a dog, but finally back then I got the chance to get one. Before I got my dog I was really depressed... Some would call it the dark night of the soul phase. I almost feel that my dog has been one of my guardians incarnated here on Earth. He has healed me, at least mentally. When I observe nature or look at the innocent eyes of an animal I see God, i.e. dog. We humans have forgotten what we are, animals are always experiencing the eternal moment of now.



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What is it that so many people
find enchanting in animals?
Their essence — their Being — is not
covered up by the mind, as it is in most humans.

And whenever you feel that essence in another,
you also feel it in yourself.


Watch any plant or animal and let it teach you acceptance of what is, surrender to the Now.

Let it teach you Being.

Let it teach you integrity — which means to be one, to be yourself, to be real.

Let it teach you how to live and how to die, and how not to make living and dying into a problem.

~ Eckhart Tolle

[LivioRazlo]

These are the boys who keep me going day after day: The Siberian Husky is named Zeig and the Husky/German Shepherd mix I adopted is named Boss.

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[RunningDeer]

These are the boys who keep me going day after day: The Siberian Husky is named Zeig and the Husky/German Shepherd mix I adopted is named Boss.

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Hi LivioRazlo,

Seig & Boss are cutie pies, with smilie faces. :wave:


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[markoid]

Dpwishy.. Your dogs just look sooo content in the pic of you all on the couch... priceless!

[dpwishy]

Dogs are one of the most advanced animals on the planet right now and many of them are ready for the leap into the human kingdom...from the animal kingdom, from which every human has evolved out of. Domestic dogs...as is the case with other domestic pets, like cats...are specifically incarnating, as group souls, into these forms because of the closeness to humans, from which they are learning and experiencing a higher form of consciousness...the human one.

As humans, we have a divine and honoured task of assisting these young entities who will one day become brothers of ours in the true sense of the word.
I just wanted to add this is not the case for all of them. That brown nose pitbull lucy that is pictured above is part of my soul group that are incarnating together for a certain reason. We were looking for months for a dog and then one night my higher self came to me. At this time in my path, about a year and a half ago, my higher self coming was a big deal. It would only drop in a couple times a year for important reasons. This time it popped in and told me which dog to adopt and what shelter it was in. I was pointed to the exact dog. Poor dog spent a year in a shelter, almost all of the first year of her life. A later realized it was because she was meant to be in my family. My higher self told me to adopt that dog as it was part of my soul group and someone I have known for many, many lives that is incarnating as a dog this life as a "break". I later realized what this meant. Every life of mine source comes to me and asks me if "this is enough" and if I would like to dissolve back into oneness and stop playing the game sort to speak, or incarnate once again to try and help others reach that oneness. I have devoted my lives to this mission but I find it so loving and caring that source knows how taxing and stressing these missions are and never takes your word as a solid deal. It comes each life and reminds me that I do have an option even though I vowed until ever last soul has made it. I've come to realize that my dog lucy is one of these but instead of leaving the game and dissolving into oneness, she has taken a break by becoming a dog and living with her soul group for this life. Its kind of a loophole where she doesn't have to leave the game and dissolve into oneness forever but still gets a break from the demand/stress that come from this work.


The best way to give to these domestic animals is to train them, so that they can begin to instil into their consciousness, right temperament, such as introversion or extroversion, from which point they can become individual entities and break from the group soul of which they are each a part of currently. What this means is that you are not really doing much for your pet if you are just providing a home for it...training in some form is vital for it's growth.

I know this is not directed at me personally but I just wanted to share something because I thought it was really cool and I have been really proud of lucy for this. When I first get my dogs I clicker train every day, as time goes on and they become great pets this slowly gets put to the side but they know all their commands and are well trained. I am always asked if my dogs are service dogs because how they act/walk and that they wear backpacks when we walk (pitbulls need an hour a day walks, I add weights to make it more demanding) as they are working dogs and go crazy if not worked right. I am in 100% control of my dogs. I always tell people, "if you want to judge me and you dont know me, judge me by my dogs..."

But this is what I wanted to share with you as I thought you would enjoy this. (video below). When we first got lucy she spent almost her first year in a shelter. Naturally she had food aggression problems as she was fed and lived in a 6x6 metal cage. You couldn't even walk behind her while she was eating without her getting aggressive and protecting her food. She did it with water also but not as bad. Now she eats face to face with Ed about a foot away. Both wont eat until they are told. We even play the red light, green light game. We try to fake them out by saying "you cant have it" or some other nonsense and they know they cant have it until we say "you can have it". Notice how lucy at the end of the video will willfully give up her food on command now as shes eating a foot away from Edward. Such a huge improvements from a dog with food aggression issues.To be able to eat face to face with another dog is a huge milestone but to willfully give up the food on command is a achievement of its own with a dog with these issues.

To get lucy to break her food aggression we had to hand feed for months. When you hand feed they never see it as theirs and wont protect the food. While hand feeding we would give the command "wait" and she was not allowed to continue eating until she backed up, sat and waited for the "you can have it" command. Slowly over months she was given the food back as her own. Now she can eat face to face with another dog with no problems and also give up her food on command. For a dog with food aggression issues, this is major achievement. Notice how great edward is in his discipline until hes told to eat also. I have the best two dogs in the world

The pink toy bone in Edwards dish is because he eats to fast, the guy hardly chews and just throws down food. Which leads to indigestion/gas. The toy is put in there so he is forced to move it around to get at food which slows down his food consumption. Little tip for those who have dogs that eat way to fast....

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In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[Finefeather]

Hi dpwishy
Well without a doubt I would thank you for your loving and caring attitude to the animal kingdom.
What you have written in your post is exactly what I have alluded to in my post...assisting in the raising of the consciousness of dogs for their ultimate individualisation.
However there is some misconception in your conclusions...and that is certainly not the fault of what you describe as your higher self...but rather a decided emotional aspect in your thinking.
This is not meant to be nasty to you or to take from your otherwise loving spirit, but to offer you some information for your consideration. You say:

A later realized it was because she was meant to be in my family. My higher self told me to adopt that dog as it was part of my soul group and someone I have known for many, many lives that is incarnating as a dog this life as a "break".

This is a common error in thinking that humans can incarnate into the body of animals 'for a break'. I ones heard someone say the same thing about incarnating as a tree :)

This is technically impossible because animals are part of group souls and humans are individualised entities. This process is not reversible.
This notion comes from Indian philosophy and is quite incorrect. The constitution of humans is 'designed' to facilitate individual consciousness growth and any supposed incarnation into an animal body...despite been impossible...would be disadvantageous to the true SELF.

We each have an Augoeides who guides us through incarnations until we achieve Self realisation...if anyone needs a break they will know.

Please do not let this deter you in your chosen path and if you prefer not to consider this then that is your choice. Many are doing wonderful work on this planet and it does not really matter how close to right or wrong we are...what counts is the striving for unity amongst all beings.

Take care
Ray

[dpwishy]

However there is some misconception in your conclusions...and that is certainly not the fault of what you describe as your higher self...but rather a decided emotional aspect in your thinking.

This is technically impossible because animals are part of group souls and humans are individualised entities. This process is not reversible.

This notion comes from Indian philosophy and is quite incorrect. The constitution of humans is 'designed' to facilitate individual consciousness growth and any supposed incarnation into an animal body...despite been impossible...would be disadvantageous to the true SELF.

I know the difference between my own emotional/ego thinking and my higher self. When my higher self comes I could speak over the voice if I wanted too. There is two voices there, one that is talking and one I have control of. Its also accompanied by different feelings that I don't have normally. Carole Clarke has mentioned it to me and has instructed me to listen to this voice when it comes, which is happening more and more frequent. I could speak over it if I wanted, I can not do that with the voice in my head that is my thinking/mind voice.

Nothing is impossible, brother. Thanks for the theory though, I appreciate your view point and take it into consideration. But in the end I consider my experience more valid than something coming from an outside source. I like to think of my experiences on a 1-10 scale. Nothing can ever be a 10. You speak from the perspective of a 10 when you say it is an impossibility. Once we make something a 10, we close off reality and what is possible. Knowledge then becomes the death of intelligence, solidifying reality and taking away from its elasticity. Even my own experiences (some of which would seem impossible so most I don't share) and what I see as absolute truth can only be seen as a 9.9. But I value those experiences and teachings higher than those of an outside source.

I understand what you are saying about animal soul groups and have seen/learned a lot about this during ayahuasca sessions. But there are exceptions to rules also. I'd argue higher beings CHOOSING to become lower level consciousnesses is one of these. But hey, who are we to say what the rules are after all? To say we know all the rules and the exceptions would be lunacy.


This is not meant to be nasty to you or to take from your otherwise loving spirit.

And I know you are not trying to be nasty or take anything away from my experiences. I appreciate the information you ask me to consider.

I like your saying at the bottom of all of your posts btw....


As long as reality is interpreted by theories instead of being experienced, subjectivism will go on misleading the sense of reality.

;)

As always, I appreciate your viewpoint.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[soleil]

hey dpwishy, great work training!
ive never had my own dog, until recently. now we've got a (150lbs) 2 yr old great pyr (maverick), who is epitome of independent thinking. aside from all of the obedience training my fiance has done, ive been teaching him tricks to do to get what he wants...like outside or ear rubs from mama. this pic took a lot longer than i wanted, cuz he was way too excited to be getting his pic taken. (if you cant tell hes excited, thanks;))

heres mav!:yo:

[RunningDeer]

hey dpwishy, great work training!
ive never had my own dog, until recently. now we've got a (150lbs) 2 yr old great pyr (maverick), who is epitome of independent thinking.

Hello Sway,
Maverick, love the name! Perfect fit for trail blazers. :wave:


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Peace,
Paula

[william r sanford72]

We Have 3 pits also.the bloodline has been in my family and friends for 30 years.i to have a red nose pit named lucy.she perfers lu lu.and has the most wonderful green eyes.also large brindle named romeo..he is the protector.lover and fighter.and momma pit whos the mother of lu lu and romeo.her name is Honey.wish i could share them with ya.there our family.and taught me much about love over the years.thank you for sharing.william and family.truth always.

[Becky]

I love this thread! We have 2 springer spaniels, a liver and white bitch called Maya and a black and white dog called Robbie. Their personalities are like chalk and cheese, but they are both very loving indeed, and very sensitive to the moods and atmosphere in our family.

[transiten]

I :luv::love::wub: dogs. My beloved shorthaired collie Pajazzo is on the other side if he has not reincarnated as a human being which i'm absolutetly sure of. Wouldn't it be great to have that confirmation? My sisters daughter is pregnant...you never know;)

[dpwishy]

We Have 3 pits also.the bloodline has been in my family and friends for 30 years.i to have a red nose pit named lucy.she perfers lu lu.and has the most wonderful green eyes.also large brindle named romeo..he is the protector.lover and fighter.and momma pit whos the mother of lu lu and romeo.her name is Honey.wish i could share them with ya.there our family.and taught me much about love over the years.thank you for sharing.william and family.truth always.

We call ours lulu also ;)

There is something about pits that I cant put my finger on. We all know what the MSM is, there is a reason they are targeted by them and tptb. There is something about them that I cant find in any other breed. I have owned countless dogs/breeds/mixes. Ill never get anything but a pit ever again. They used to be called the "nanny dog" for their ability to take care and watch over kids. Petey from the little rascals was a pit and at that time was the most owned family dog. Look what can happen in 30-40 years with such a hateful campaign. Everything is set up in this reality for a reason, I ask everyone to really think about why they got such a bad rap in the last few decades. Thanks for sharing.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[TargeT]

Glad to see your american terriers trained so well (lets not use that slang term shall we? "pitbull" is as bad as saying "marijuana" when you mean Cannabis... both slang terms have negative connotation).

I agree with everything you said, dogs seem to be a perfect "judgement free" friend and on top of that some of them seem to have uncanny character assessment skills, even though their shorter lifespans can cause some emotional pain, it is well worth the company that they provide, not to mention vigilant protection.

[778 neighbour of some guy]

This is Emma, she is lethal, she will slobber your face completely of with her absolute infinite love, in case you would like to drop by, bring a towel, a large one, her bad case of ADD and extremely short attention span/memory, will start the above mentioned process all over again when you return from the kitchen with a cold brewski, she's a complete knucklehead, totally restless, strong as a horse, friendlier than four floors of whores, she farts like crazy, smells even worse and wants to play play play and play some more and if she loves you she becomes deaf and will NOT listen, you will get slobbered and smothered and there will be no escape, unless you have cookies that is.:bounce:

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[dpwishy]

She farts like crazy

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That face is priceless!

lol I have been warned of boxer farts, even so in the last week I had a home owner tell me about it. Funny you mention it also, I had a good chuckle out loud. That is a really beautiful dog you got there. Thanks for sharing. This thread has brought my spirits up so much. I thank you all for sharing.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[778 neighbour of some guy]

She farts like crazy

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That face is priceless!

lol I have been warned of boxer farts, even so in the last week I had a home owner tell me about it. Funny you mention it also, I had a good chuckle out loud. That is a really beautiful dog you got there. Thanks for sharing. This thread has brought my spirits up so much. I thank you all for sharing.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

Ghehehe you are most welcome brother Michael, she is actually a mixed breed, her dad is a Mastiff and mum a Boxer ( the result is a sweet bulldozer that smells bad, doesn't drool and thinks she is still a tiny puppy, a tiny brain and a HUUUUUUGE heart), these photos are from when she was smaller, I don't feel like installing Chrome on my laptop so these pictures are old ones, but her look of puzzled bewildered amazement has not left her, its on her face permanently.

I hope your luck picks up soon brother, you deserve something good.

Edgar

[dpwishy]

Glad to see your american terriers trained so well (lets not use that slang term shall we? "pitbull" is as bad as saying "marijuana" when you mean Cannabis... both slang terms have negative connotation).


I hear what you are saying but I actually do it on purpose. I want those who meet my dog in person and those that read online to know that this is the same dog as they read and hear in the newspaper as a pitbull. To me they are standing up for all there brothers and sisters who get a bad wrap, mostly due to bad owners. I like to explain it like this to people. When you walk into a hobby shop and pick out a model to build. Some are labeled, easy, some moderate and others expert. You dont just pick out an expert model to build your first time. Id argue that the american pit bull terrier is an expert level breed to work with. Its not that anyone with a kind heart and loving soul can't raise them but they are far to strong and far to high strung. If you do not know what you are doing they can be a very over powering dog to work with. No one wants a dog with this strength to be jumping on them, running around high strung and so forth. You really need to take your time and dedication with training and loving these dogs. They were originally made to hunt boar, not fight as humans have exploited them for. This is where the high strung part comes from, they are working dogs and thus need this aspect in their life or they go stir crazy. They truly need an hour walk every day. Sometimes an hour doesnt even cut it as they are used to running down boar so I have learned to put a backpack on them with 2-3 water bottles on each side to make the work out more demanding. You want these dogs once they come into the house to be low energy. They can really be a hard dog to work with if you cant give them these things. They are so strong. They don't know their own strength and their tail alone can be a weapon. Lucy get's "happy tail" sometimes, her tail being so strong that when it hits a wall when it wags it explodes and blood goes everywhere. She can wipe out a full coffee table of drinks. There are pull competitions with dogs pulling sleds and weights, every other breed is put into one category and pitbulls in another because its not fair to the other dogs in competition. They are far to strong. Being human aggressive is a rare trait in this breed, dog aggression does come up often so its a must to socialize from a very early age. As for protection, these are labeled as one of the worst breeds and one that often gets stolen in house break ins as they will willfully go with the people breaking into the house. Their desire to please humans is through the roof.

Pitbull is actually a generic term for about 8-10 breeds, stafford terrier being one and so forth. American Pit bull terrier is a specific breadline, both my dogs are American pit bull terriers. We think edward is a mix and bought a dna test for him that's sitting in the house but we have never done it or sent it in. Lucy is a full APBT.

Here is the united Kennels clubs description of an American pit bull terrier

CHARACTERISTICS
The essential characteristics of the American Pit Bull Terrier are strength, confidence, and zest for life. This breed is eager to please and brimming over with enthusiasm. APBTs make excellent family companions and have always been noted for their love of children. Because most APBTs exhibit some level of dog aggression and because of its powerful physique, the APBT requires an owner who will carefully socialize and obedience train the dog. The breed’s natural agility makes it one of the most capable canine climbers so good fencing is a must for this breed. The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremely friendly, even with strangers. Aggressive behavior toward humans is uncharacteristic of the breed and highly undesirable. This breed does very well in performance events because of its high level of intelligence and its willingness to work.

A note on the fence jumping thing, American Pit bull terriers are much smaller than most think. Usually the low to mid 40's for weight. Not much higher than your knee's for height and mine can jump a six foot fence. It blew my mind when I saw it the first time.

One thing I learned early on with this breed is you must tell them when to stop. Their desire to please their owner and work ethic is so high that you can literally work them to the death like a horse. One day at the beach I was throwing the ball in the ocean about 50 yards out with the chuck-it. Lucy played and went after it for at least an hour straight, swimming after the ball in the ocean. She kept going and kept going so I thought she wanted to. The next few days she couldnt even walk and any time she would roll in her crate she would moan. I learned fast that you must tell them when to stop or they will literally kill them selves with a task. Their desire to please the owner mixed with this over the top work ethic and wont stop until death, in my opinion, is why they were exploited by humans to fight.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

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This morning and now a psychotherapist talks on Swedish radio. He brings his dog to the sessions because the clients relax and the therapy works much better! Also a researcher who visited Pavlov who made experiments with dogs became more interested in how he could help the poor dogs after horrible experiences with the reseachers experiments. The therapist ended with citing the Beatles "All you need is love" Vof:love:

[Orph]

My apologies to dpwishy and all on this thread, but I'd like to break in here and ask a question. Like everyone here, I love dogs, (and all animals). A friend of mine owns a female cocker spaniel. Whenever her dog sees me, she starts whining/howling/crying at the top of her lungs like she's being beaten with a stick or something. (I'm talking about the dog, not my friend :sarcastic: ) Anyway, after a few minutes she'll calm down and slowly, crawling on her belly, come up to me. And this same thing happens every time her dog sees me.


If I were an evil person, or hated dogs or something like that, then I'd be willing to believe that the dog might somehow pick up on that and maybe be afraid of me. But I'm not that way, so I'm a bit perplexed as to why her dog is so terrified of me. Anyone have any insight on this type of thing?

[dpwishy]

My apologies to dpwishy and all on this thread, but I'd like to break in here and ask a question. Like everyone here, I love dogs, (and all animals). A friend of mine owns a female cocker spaniel. Whenever her dog sees me, she starts whining/howling/crying at the top of her lungs like she's being beaten with a stick or something. (I'm talking about the dog, not my friend :sarcastic: ) Anyway, after a few minutes she'll calm down and slowly, crawling on her belly, come up to me. And this same thing happens every time her dog sees me.


If I were an evil person, or hated dogs or something like that, then I'd be willing to believe that the dog might somehow pick up on that and maybe be afraid of me. But I'm not that way, so I'm a bit perplexed as to why her dog is so terrified of me. Anyone have any insight on this type of thing?

Some dogs have weird knacks. My only advice is to never give it attention or praise or pet it when its doing this. At some level this is a learned behavior. When we give affection to any undesirable trait, we are telling the dog that this is ok. When people first come into my house I tell them, "No eyes, no ears, no touch". This means no looking at the dog in the eyes, no talking to the dog and no petting the dog. None of these are allowed until the dog is calm and laying down. A dog is naturally excited when a person enters and when we give it affection in any of those ways we are telling it that its excitement level is ok. Over time this snowballs into dogs jumping on people when they enter the house and so forth. As a rule of thumb, affection of any kind should not be given to a dog until its calm and submissive. The best time to pet a dog is when its not asking to be and is laying down clam. Then go up to the dog and say hello and pet it. You are then re-enforcing this mindset. The hardest part of coming home from work is obeying the no eyes, no ears, and no touch with my dogs. Even the owners must obey this. Sometimes I cant acknowledge my dogs for 5-10 minutes after coming home. As hard as it is and as much as I want to love them in that moment of excitement, I know its not the best thing for my dogs and in the end this is whats most important.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[RunningDeer]

This is Emma,

Lady Emma, Daddy's little girl.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Emma_zps0e6d956d.jpg

:wave:

[sian]

This is Emma, she is lethal, she will slobber your face completely of with her absolute infinite love, in case you would like to drop by, bring a towel, a large one, her bad case of ADD and extremely short attention span/memory, will start the above mentioned process all over again when you return from the kitchen with a cold brewski, she's a complete knucklehead, totally restless, strong as a horse, friendlier than four floors of whores, she farts like crazy, smells even worse and wants to play play play and play some more and if she loves you she becomes deaf and will NOT listen, you will get slobbered and smothered and there will be no escape, unless you have cookies that is.:bounce:


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sounds adorable, slobber an' all, priceless

[Becky]

I :luv::love::wub: dogs. My beloved shorthaired collie Pajazzo is on the other side if he has not reincarnated as a human being which i'm absolutetly sure of. Wouldn't it be great to have that confirmation? My sisters daughter is pregnant...you never know;)

Our dog Maya, is very human-like indeed - she was hand raised by humans and did not think she was a dog at all, and when put with other dogs was very offended! She has a heightened sense of self-awareness - only letting me take her out to the toilet, and she doesn't like to have anyone observe her going poo! Robbie on the other hand doesnt care at all! Maya often acts very snooty -we call her Lady Maya sometimes :-)

[Becky]

My apologies to dpwishy and all on this thread, but I'd like to break in here and ask a question. Like everyone here, I love dogs, (and all animals). A friend of mine owns a female cocker spaniel. Whenever her dog sees me, she starts whining/howling/crying at the top of her lungs like she's being beaten with a stick or something. (I'm talking about the dog, not my friend :sarcastic: ) Anyway, after a few minutes she'll calm down and slowly, crawling on her belly, come up to me. And this same thing happens every time her dog sees me.


If I were an evil person, or hated dogs or something like that, then I'd be willing to believe that the dog might somehow pick up on that and maybe be afraid of me. But I'm not that way, so I'm a bit perplexed as to why her dog is so terrified of me. Anyone have any insight on this type of thing?

Some dogs have weird knacks. My only advice is to never give it attention or praise or pet it when its doing this. At some level this is a learned behavior. When we give affection to any undesirable trait, we are telling the dog that this is ok. When people first come into my house I tell them, "No eyes, no ears, no touch". This means no looking at the dog in the eyes, no talking to the dog and no petting the dog. None of these are allowed until the dog is calm and laying down. A dog is naturally excited when a person enters and when we give it affection in any of those ways we are telling it that its excitement level is ok. Over time this snowballs into dogs jumping on people when they enter the house and so forth. As a rule of thumb, affection of any kind should not be given to a dog until its calm and submissive. The best time to pet a dog is when its not asking to be and is laying down clam. Then go up to the dog and say hello and pet it. You are then re-enforcing this mindset. The hardest part of coming home from work is obeying the no eyes, no ears, and no touch with my dogs. Even the owners must obey this. Sometimes I cant acknowledge my dogs for 5-10 minutes after coming home. As hard as it is and as much as I want to love them in that moment of excitement, I know its not the best thing for my dogs and in the end this is whats most important.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

I totally agree with Michael's answer - very sensible. Caesar Milan is a great dog trainer, i loved watching his programmes before they went on Sky TV which I don't get.

[Krist]

Love my American terriers.Petey & Koko .Pete found me on the farm yesterday was acting out in a sense of urgency and ran away .I fallowed him to our water retention pond koko had went for a drink and fell in .She is a great swimmer but the pond is lined with plastic she couldn't get out had been in for an hour and was nearly exhausted.Pete the bobble head saved Koko,Petey is my hero.Yep ,"American terrier" saves a life a good story for the breed I love so much.Friends for ever.:cool:

[soleil]

My apologies to dpwishy and all on this thread, but I'd like to break in here and ask a question. Like everyone here, I love dogs, (and all animals). A friend of mine owns a female cocker spaniel. Whenever her dog sees me, she starts whining/howling/crying at the top of her lungs like she's being beaten with a stick or something. (I'm talking about the dog, not my friend :sarcastic: ) Anyway, after a few minutes she'll calm down and slowly, crawling on her belly, come up to me. And this same thing happens every time her dog sees me.


If I were an evil person, or hated dogs or something like that, then I'd be willing to believe that the dog might somehow pick up on that and maybe be afraid of me. But I'm not that way, so I'm a bit perplexed as to why her dog is so terrified of me. Anyone have any insight on this type of thing?

Some dogs have weird knacks. My only advice is to never give it attention or praise or pet it when its doing this. At some level this is a learned behavior. When we give affection to any undesirable trait, we are telling the dog that this is ok. When people first come into my house I tell them, "No eyes, no ears, no touch". This means no looking at the dog in the eyes, no talking to the dog and no petting the dog. None of these are allowed until the dog is calm and laying down. A dog is naturally excited when a person enters and when we give it affection in any of those ways we are telling it that its excitement level is ok. Over time this snowballs into dogs jumping on people when they enter the house and so forth. As a rule of thumb, affection of any kind should not be given to a dog until its calm and submissive. The best time to pet a dog is when its not asking to be and is laying down clam. Then go up to the dog and say hello and pet it. You are then re-enforcing this mindset. The hardest part of coming home from work is obeying the no eyes, no ears, and no touch with my dogs. Even the owners must obey this. Sometimes I cant acknowledge my dogs for 5-10 minutes after coming home. As hard as it is and as much as I want to love them in that moment of excitement, I know its not the best thing for my dogs and in the end this is whats most important.

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael
this is the main thing we do with mav. sometimes even saying "hi" from me, elicits a jump on me or worse, a snuggle from him on my level. if i ignore him till hes laying down, he remembers to stay there and that mama prefers him laying down. im 5'1 hes been as tall/taller than me since he was 8months...so, no talk, no touch, no eyes, and the infamous SHHHH is our go to.
edgar, what a lovely pup!!!!
"four floors of whores" made me laugh out loud!

oh ! and i grew up with pitbulls in the family. i always loved em! my cousins had 2, missy and petey. missy had pups all the time. now one of the cousins has her brood of boxers.....which gives mav friends to hang with.

[EsmaEverheart]

This is my dog, Gertrude.

[TargeT]

this is the main thing we do with mav. sometimes even saying "hi" from me, elicits a jump on me or worse, a snuggle from him on my level. if i ignore him till hes laying down, he remembers to stay there and that mama prefers him laying down. im 5'1 hes been as tall/taller than me since he was 8months...so, no talk, no touch, no eyes, and the infamous SHHHH is our go to.
edgar, what a lovely pup!!!!
"four floors of whores" made me laugh out loud!

oh ! and i grew up with pitbulls in the family. i always loved em! my cousins had 2, missy and petey. missy had pups all the time. now one of the cousins has her brood of boxers.....which gives mav friends to hang with.

yup, its great advice.. dogs think differently than we do and even "trying to calm them down" is the wrong kind of attention.

especially important on the larger breeds ( I think mine are considered "giant", though there are definitely bigger out there)

Here's my mobile rug / kids toy / family guardian Saphira:
http://www.northlandboerboels.com/uploads/IMG_1218.jpg

http://www.northlandboerboels.com/uploads/545664_10152124924950472_1537166989_n.jpg

[RunningDeer]

This is my dog, Gertrude.

Hello there, Lady Gertrude :wave:


http://imageshack.us/a/img15/4826/j9zv.jpg

[RunningDeer]

Here's my mobile rug / kids toy / family guardian Saphira

Little Saphira's got an extensive resume.


http://imageshack.us/a/img201/2562/y4ye.jpg

:wave:

[x_factor]

I'm not a dog fan myself. I can't deal with the noise, the smell, nor the slobbering.

[TargeT]

I'm not a dog fan myself. I can't deal with the noise, the smell, nor the slobbering.

all three are present in different levels in different breeds, mine don't smell, don't bark and don't slobber; but they do eat a lot....

I used to think horses "smelled" (negative connotation) but now I find the smell appealing & like the big "stupid chickens" (as I've been calling them lately).

[sian]

I'm not a dog fan myself. I can't deal with the noise, the smell, nor the slobbering.

oh dear! I love ya anyway 23611

Jack xxxxx

[RunningDeer]

Jack xxxxx

Jack, a wise, old soul. Betcha, he speaks to anyone that listens. Or is it hears?


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/JACK_zps0dc957d7.jpg


:wave:

[sian]

Thank you Paula, he came to me when i really needed him, not the other way, heaven sent him so to speak. Your sincere generosity of heart is truly appreciated in the way you share your time and gift with us all.:):wave:

[donk]

I can't copy the pic of my Summit from my album in my donk page (lil help?) but the big dummy got out. He can unlock and open the sliding glass door.

I thought he couldn't cuz he's gotten older, his blown acl bothers him more and he hasn't in a year or and so. I can't describe the feeling coming home and not hearing him singing.

We have been having issues with the neighbors who apparently called animal control (again), so he's stuck in the SPCA kennel tonight. Please send him calm and prayers, he doesn't do well alone even in his home, he is terrified and probably hurting himself trying to get out.

[RunningDeer]

I can't copy the pic of my Summit from my album in my donk page (lil help?) but the big dummy got out. He can unlock and open the sliding glass door.

I thought he couldn't cuz he's gotten older, his blown acl bothers him more and he hasn't in a year or and so. I can't describe the feeling coming home and not hearing him singing.

We have been having issues with the neighbors who apparently called animal control (again), so he's stuck in the SPCA kennel tonight. Please send him calm and prayers, he doesn't do well alone even in his home, he is terrified and probably hurting himself trying to get out.

Will do, Donk. Calming Love is on it's way and a friend for Summit. I've pulled pictures off your photo album and will add here tomorrow. :wave:


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/Angels/doggie.GIF

[RunningDeer]

I can't describe the feeling coming home and not hearing him singing.


Hang in there, Summit. Daddy will be there soon.

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/Summit_zps5aede3d7.jpg


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[donk]

That's so great thanks so much!!!

[dpwishy]

haha donk, summit spooning his toy is priceless! I had a smile from ear to ear seeing that. My lucy's thing is a tennis ball. She has a ball in her mouth more hours than not in any given day. The first thing she does when she gets let out of her crate is to get her ball. You can buy her 20-30 dollar kong toys and stuff them with treats and she will pick a 99 cent tennis ball over everything. I almost feel guilty owning lucy. Her work drive/ethics is through the roof and she is a really good finder/smeller. We play games where she has to wait in her crate, I hide something I let her smell first and then give her the "find it" command. She always finds it and will never give up until its found. Her drive for toys, like her ball, is through the roof also. This is the perfect combination for being a trained bomb dog, training a dog to smell cancer or any kind of a specialty work dog. She has the nose, the work ethic and on top of that has the over the top toy drive that is needed to seriously train a dog in this capacity. I almost feel like a bad owner that shes not getting used to her full ability.

One more of Lucy lu, look how jacked she is for a 42 lbs dog. She is so beautiful when we see her walk and naturally flex. Its like watching a horse or something where you can't help but be amazed at the muscle and build. A true, natural, work of art....
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In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[RunningDeer]

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael
Lady Lucy in her winter attire.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/lucy-snow_zpsd0d14b6b.jpg

[dpwishy]

Lol I came inside the house the other day and saw this.....
Figured it belonged in this thread ;)

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It put a smile on my face and hopefully yours also!
From my family to yours, have beautiful Sunday!

In divine friendship,
your brother,
-michael

[TargeT]

Here's my mobile rug / kids toy / family guardian Saphira

Little Saphira's got an extensive resume.


http://imageshack.us/a/img201/2562/y4ye.jpg



:wave:

Just an FYI, her resume now inludes giving 45 stitches to a person that walked into our drive way (horrible situation, I bent over backwards to make right) and a lady that we told repeatedly how these were the best guard dogs in the world and still stuck her face in too close to a metal grate door (common down here due to thievery) and got a small laceration on her face.

so, unconditional love? hmmm.. no, as an accepted dog psychologist (haha), I would call it unconditional loyalty (though, the two can be hand and hand, definitely)

Just remember, these ARE predators, treat every dog with the respect it deserves, no mater how "cute" or "beautiful" the dog (see above pics :D ) they are still designed to hunt and kill and need to be respected for that.

even labs need to be treated for what they are :sad:

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I have only ever had brief peaks of un conditional love with humans , but with my dog Jedda i found a peak of un conditional love and learning that lasted years. I learned from my dog so much about life and un conditionality, about being fiercly loyal, about being playful and loving. I thank her ever day for her lessons and remember her fondly as the light in times of dark mind.

i miss you

N