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Tesla_WTC_Solution
7th November 2013, 21:42
I know we've talked about this at least once on this forum, but I wasn't sure if this topic had its own thread yet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c1/Zonnepoort_tiwanaku.jpg/800px-Zonnepoort_tiwanaku.jpg

Habitable Planets, In-congruent Solar Calendars, Long Lost Artifacts: Was Earth Visited by Off-World Humans in Recent History?

There seems to be a good case for past Extra-terrestrial contact, or at least, a need for current historical records to be revised, in light of the Bolivian Sungate found near Lake Titicaca/La Pas.

I will go over a couple details that seem important. First, I wanted to point out that scientists believe that the "Gate of the Sun" illustrates clearly a 290-day solar calendar:


http://www.viewzone.com/tiax.html

The most famous icon of the archaeological site at Tiahuanaco is the Sun Gate. This structure has been described as a "calendar" almost as long as the monolithic gateway has been known to exist; thus the Sun Gate has also been called 'the Calendar Gate'. This calendar sculpture, though it undoubtedly depicts a "solar year," cannot however be made to fit into the solar year as we divide it at present. The calendar has only 290 days, divided into 12 "twelfths" of 24 days each, plus 2 intercalary days.

Wikipedia also includes some important information. You can guess what stood out to me:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_of_the_Sun

The Gate of the Sun is a megalithic solid stone arch or gateway constructed by the ancient Tiwanaku culture of Bolivia over 1500 years before the present.[1]

It is located near Lake Titicaca at about 3,825 m above sea level near La Paz, Bolivia. The object is approximately 9.8 ft (3.0 m) tall and 13 ft (4.0 m) wide, and is constructed from a single piece of stone. The weight is estimated to be 10 tons.[2] When rediscovered by European explorers in the mid-19th century, the megalith was lying horizontally and had a large crack going through it. It currently stands in the same location where it was found, although it is believed that this is not its original location, which remains uncertain.[3]

If you guessed, as I did, that the use of the Metric System is the thing that stands out, give yourself a pat on the back. The sun gate is thought to have been constructed in 500 AD. Wikipedia says that the Metric System was not introduced until 1799, in France, and adopted widely in the mid 19th century. How is it, then, that an object supposedly built 1500 years ago measured exactly 3.0M tall and 4.0M wide? Was the metric system really of extra-terrestrial origin, older than we thought, or simply sensible enough that it existed in another form prior to its usage in modern-day Europe?


The Gate of the Sun is a megalithic solid stone arch or gateway constructed by the ancient Tiwanaku culture of Bolivia over 1500 years before the present.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_units_of_measurement


The ancient Roman units of measurement were built on the Hellenic system with Egyptian, Hebrew, and Mesopotamian influences.[citation needed] The Roman units were comparatively consistent and well documented.

Apparently the Romans weren't even using meters yet, if I understand this correctly. So even if the Romans had voyaged to the South Americas, which many people would say is impossible (not me, though), it doesn't explain how the natives were exposed to the use of meters or tons. Yes, the builders ensured that the stone weighed almost exactly 10 tons, which is another interesting tidbit of information. Tons are, if I remember correctly, an English measurement.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne

The tonne (SI symbol: t) is a metric system unit of mass equal to 1,000 kilograms (2,204.6 pounds) or 1 megagram (1 Mg). It is a non-SI unit accepted for use with SI.[1][2] To avoid confusion with the much smaller short ton and the slightly larger long ton, it is also known as a metric ton in the United States.[3]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_ton

The short ton is a unit of mass equal to 2,000 pounds (907.18474 kg), that is most commonly used in the United States – known there simply as the ton.[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_ton

Long ton (weight ton or Imperial ton) is the name for the unit called the "ton" in the avoirdupois or Imperial system of measurements that was used in the United Kingdom and several other Commonwealth countries before metrication. One long ton is equal to 2,240 pounds (1,016 kg), 12% larger than a short ton and 1.6% larger than the 1,000-kilogram (2,205 lb) tonne, or 35 cubic feet (0.9911 m3) of salt water with a density of 64 lb/cu ft (1.025 g/ml).[1] It has some limited use in the United States, most commonly in measuring the displacement of ships, and was the unit prescribed for warships by the Washington Naval Treaty 1922—for example battleships were limited to a mass of 35,000 long tons (36,000 t; 39,000 short tons).

The Imperial ton was explicitly excluded from use for trade in the United Kingdom by the Weights and Measures Act 1985.[2][3]

As I am not 100% clear on which ton was used, I am guessing it's as spelled and the short Ton. Even so, the "coincidence" of the gate weighing about 10 tons seems questionable in light of the precisely metric measurements of length.

How does this have to do with recent Keppler telescope discoveries?

Well, that's easy to answer. One of the supposedly habitable planets recently discovered by NASA's Keppler setup had a solar period of 290 days (the length of its orbital period around its native sun; i.e. a Kepper-22b year is 290 days).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Kepler-22b_System_Diagram.jpg/750px-Kepler-22b_System_Diagram.jpg

It just so happens that the Sun Gate shows a calendar that is 290 days long.
The trouble is, Keppler-22B is 600 light years away.

What I am wondering is, how the heck did the natives build and transport this thing, considering Wikipedia claims the object was moved at least once before being re-discovered by modern archaeologists. It's quite literally a solid block of stone (or similar material) that weights 10 tons minimum and measures quite exactly 3.0M and 4.0M on a side.

Is it possible that ancient peoples knew enough about time, space, and relativity, that people truly did travel from faraway worlds, landed on our own planet, and built monuments that we would find, in time to encourage our own respective space race?

Discoveries like the Sun Gate, and it happening to match the solar periods of faraway planets, drive me to believe that we are not alone in this Universe by any means, and that people like us not only live on other planets visible by telescope, but have traveled to Earth in recent history (post-pre-history).

What do you guys think about all this?

Key points of thread:
~South American builders near Titicaca knew about the Meter and the ton.
~South American builders near Titicaca left a calendar behind that shows quite clearly a 290 day solar period.
~Keppler-22B is within the habitable zone and is a planet with a 290 day period.
~There may be many other planets with such a period, and maybe some of them are closer than 600 light years (which is Keppler-22B's distance from us).

p.s. anyone up for explaining the tesseract? :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Dimension_levels.svg/480px-Dimension_levels.svg.png

p.p.s.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler-22b

Kepler-22b is an extrasolar planet orbiting G-type star Kepler-22.[7][8] It is located 600 light years away from Earth in the constellation of Cygnus. It was discovered by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope in 2011 and was the first known transiting planet to orbit within the habitable zone of a Sun-like star.[7][8]

...

The only parameters of the planet's orbit that are currently available are its period, which is about 290 days, and its inclination, which is approximately 90°, so that it transits the disk of its star as seen from Earth.

p.p.p.s. I am so excited about India going to Mars, I hope they find more than we did.

sheme
7th November 2013, 22:08
Hope they disclose more than you did. :o:

sorry- revised- Hope they disclose more than U.S did.


sorry hugs and silly misunderstanding.

Sunny-side-up
7th November 2013, 22:40
Hope they tell us all everything that they do find!

Tesla_WTC_Solution
7th November 2013, 22:46
Hope they disclose more than you did. :o:


..?

Not sure whether to LOL or cry

sheme
8th November 2013, 10:37
Hope they disclose more than you did. :o:

sorry- revised- Hope they disclose more than U.S did.


sorry hugs and silly misunderstanding.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
8th November 2013, 18:15
Hope they disclose more than you did. :o:

sorry- revised- Hope they disclose more than U.S did.


sorry hugs and silly misunderstanding.

It's ok! LOL I deserve it, I made fun of someone else's typo yesterday (karma moves fast around here lmao)

ghostrider
9th November 2013, 02:35
i look at that structure and can't help but say , the people of that day where trying to say that ET came from the stars and the world around us comes from them and everything is based on their coming here to this world ...

Rocky_Shorz
9th November 2013, 03:02
I can see the ET's pull up to set up a calendar and realized they grabbed the wrong one...

dumped it out the porthole and flew back for another...


dang I hate when that happens... ;)

Tesla_WTC_Solution
10th December 2013, 20:19
NASA admitted to CNN that Mars and Earth were both capable of supporting life at the same time.

If this is true of other systems, imagine how many more planets there may be, capable of supporting life, and worthy of human attention.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
27th February 2014, 02:47
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/26/tech/innovation/nasa-new-planets/index.html

NASA discovers 715 new planets
Doug Gross, CNN
By Doug Gross, CNN
February 27, 2014 -- Updated 0047 GMT (0847 HKT) | Filed under: Innovations

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130626101023-eso-habitable-planets-horizontal-gallery.jpg

(CNN) -- Our galactic neighborhood just got a lot bigger. NASA on Wednesday announced the discovery of 715 new planets, by far the biggest batch of planets ever unveiled at once.

By way of comparison, about 1,000 planets total had been identified in our galaxy before Wednesday.

Four of those planets are in what NASA calls the "habitable zone," meaning they have the makeup to potentially support life.

The planets, which orbit 305 different stars, were discovered by the Kepler space telescope and were verified using a new technique that scientists expect to make new planetary discoveries more frequent and more detailed.

"We've been able to open the bottleneck to access the mother lode and deliver to you more than 20 times as many planets as has ever been found and announced at once," said Jack Lissauer, a planetary scientist at NASA's Ames Research Center in California.

Launched in March 2009, the Kepler space observatory was the first NASA mission to find planets similar to Earth that are in, or near, habitable zones -- defined as planets that are the right distance from a star for a moderate temperature that might sustain liquid water.

Tuesday's planets all were verified using data from the first two years of Kepler's voyage, meaning there may be many more to come.

"Kepler has really been a game-changer for our understanding of the incredible diversity of planets and planetary systems in our galaxy," said Douglas Hudgins, a scientist with NASA's astrophysics division.

The new technique is called "verification by multiplicity," and relies in part on the logic of probability. Instead of searching blindly, the team focused on stars that the technique suggests are likely to have more than one planet in their orbit.

NASA says 95% of the planets discovered by Kepler are smaller than Neptune, which is four times as big as Earth.

One of them is about twice the size of Earth and orbits a star half the size of Earth's sun in a 30-day cycle.

The other three planets in habitable zones also are all roughly twice the size of Earth. Scientists said the multiplicity technique is biased toward first discovering planets close to their star and that, when further data comes in, they expect to find a higher percentage of new planets that could potentially have a life-supporting climate like Earth's.

"The more we explore the more we find familiar traces of ourselves amongst the stars that remind us of home," said Jason Rowe, a research scientist at the SETI Institute in Mountain View, California, and co-leader of the research team.