Orgasms

[Cristian]

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Orgasms…yes, I said Orgasms

It is funny that in our culture that something we all tend to appreciate so much, we do not speak of openly. Orgasms are, as of yet, a fairly taboo subject to speak of openly. For most it is a deeply private and personal experience. Especially if we are having them while not making love or having sex with a partner. Which brings us to the most feared of all practices that no one wishes to admit to-masturbation. I am writing today to recontextualize orgasms and masturbation to set them in a more accurate light.

When energy moves freely from the root chakra, up through the spine and all the connecting major chakras…and finally connects with the crown chakra, it is a very immense and joyous experience. It opens the heart, the mind, unification within both happens and the body experiences pleasure. In that moment one can find nothing wrong, their busy mind quiets, bliss and intoxication flood. When this happens for about 3-10 seconds…we have a word for it, and that word is “orgasm”. A physical orgasm occurs through stimulation of the root chakra, and the resultant energy finally blasts up, connects with the top and then usually is released through the root chakra once more. Think of your chakras and spine like a circuit. When that connection is made, the current flies, and orgasm usually occurs.

What you experience, during that orgasm, is who you are underneath all your thoughts, all your doing, all your plans, all your karma. Pure, unadulterated aliveness without a thought. It is a momentary awakening. A brief moment of dipping your foot back into the ocean from which you came, before you came here to experience being in a body. It is connection with everything. It is the shortest path for people to experience bliss, peace, and reconnection with the truth.

But in most of the world, what orgasms really do has all been rescripted as “sex drive”. A very unhappy many use orgasms to counterbalance their way of living. They live a life that goes in the opposite direction of peace or bliss…and then use sexuality or orgasms to provide the relief from the way they live. I think it is very important for people to grasp the innocence at work here, especially for men. Things are changing, but for the most part, men are the more deeply disconnected from Source, of the two genders. Just by virtue of being a man and the societal norms placed upon them, they are automatically placed further into a position of distance from balance with Femininity. It is all masculine for them. This is why there are so many men that are sex obsessed, masturbation obsessed, porn obsessed. It isn’t that they have a high sex drive or libido. It is that they are profoundly removed and distanced from experiences that remind them of their true nature. Orgasm and sexuality have become the default method, an unconscious desire to reach into a place that they cannot otherwise access. What they are really driven by is that deep yearning to reconnect with something that can touch their heart. As long as men are encouraged to be “MEN” then sexuality will continue to be their main method of seeking or attaining a higher state, even if it is unconscious. Also, sexual experiences with others, and without a meaningful connection, will be their main conduit for seeking this path. And increasingly, in our hypermasculine world, it can also be seen that women are increasingly moving towards this place…of expressing through a more aggressive looking form of sexuality. Because women too, have become very hypermasculine in our world, as a response to surviving in a patriarchy.

Here is the question though…what is this place? What can be done to support men and women? Well, this is actually where Tantric practice provides a healing solution. Orgasm is not the only way to experience having the energy move from the root to the crown chakra. It is not the only path to awakening. In fact, after awakening, that circuit largely remains open, no orgasm required. But couples or people who are solo can explore this place in a conscious fashion and work with the energy that is moving through them. Openly and honestly exploring when a person feels called to seek an orgasm and exploring that can be critical to unlocking what does not feel good in your life. It can also be incredibly beneficial to NOT have the actual orgasm. This is not always valid. Yet, there are many times when the physical release (especially for men) ends the cycling of energy in the body. But if no one has the orgasm then the energy has time to move around. It has more time to move into the heart, the fingers and toes, everywhere. Ideally though, the person doing this practice with a partner or alone, may find the best secret about sex of all…that it is actually never about sex. It is about seeking a higher connection with what we have forgotten. When sexuality is explored in this fashion with another who is committed to remaining present and it is reciprocal, physical orgasm isn’t even necessary for what many call “divine union”. Approaching this level of intimacy with another who is consciously approaching this with you, once experienced, is something that will make all the rest of your lovemaking look like “just sex”. And when doing this sort of practice alone, it is divine union with the self and the illusion that one needs another, or a fantasy, to find that connection, is rendered asunder.

We do not yet live in a world where we have moved beyond sexual release as a way to unconsciously seek our source. The blind desire for it drives all pornography, empty sex with strangers, molestation, the sex slave trade and rape. Being unconscious about what drives our sexuality, as a species, causes profound harm and the more we culturally remain silent about our sexuality, orgasms and awakening…the longer the violence towards women and men will continue. Ideally, more and more people will awaken to the pain of how much it hurts to be separated from the Source…and shift to going about their search in a more conscious fashion that does no harm to others and awakens their heart. When people are consciously experiencing sexuality as a wonderful way to freely connect with divinity, the ignorance will gradually fall away. And in the end, it is all just energy…and then there is a place beyond the need to work with even that energy for awakening to unfold. But that is another story.

In my work I offer support for folks working through or seeking a deeper awareness of these issues. And for anyone reading this article who finds it of value…these words are not meant just for you…share it widely. It is meant for everyone.

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[Crazy Louie]

Well stated - I have read accounts of Saints having orgasm while deep in union with god during prayer/meditation. I would imagine the same is true of any devout person who goes so deep into soul - that it manifests through body without really being thought about. -- if orgasm occurs during dreams - due to dmt being released into the mind and researchers have concluded that the same parts of the brain get fired up with chemical hallucinations as do with deep prayer and meditation - the crossover with orgasm from sex due to the feel good aspects of it - to having orgasm even without thoughts of sex in the devout would have to be very slight indeed.

I have to agree with your premise - man has not spiritually evolved to the point where sex of mind has been left behind. As noted the driving force in the ego centered vortex of thought guiding sex and release has thus become mired in the muck of fetish and specialized needs now refered to as getting your freak on.

Most people are confused Cristian - they cannot seperate orgasm from sex - I understand this fully yet I can not seperate it - the only alternative would be celbracy and I cannot do that - tried - led to clinical depression - I realized that god determines who his elite will be - we cannot choose it - I would love to have been a deeply devoted theoretical physicist - yet I hate math and have little aptitude for it -- I would image the same holds true for the spirit - as its written - different gifts for different people.

I have to disagree with the statement about consciously experiencing sexuality as a wonderful way to freely connect with divinity - as I said the orgams of devout people were a byproduct - they were not the engine driving the person towards god. In our fallen state few can transcend the ego - and while I keep saying it and few understand it - the ego will never fade away while we are in physical form in this physical realm - it will take divine intervention and that divine intervention will enter everyones life sooner or later - people refer to as a shift in cosmic consciousness - but I just call it physically dying.

[Crystine]

Interesting. Something's to think about. Re evaluate the Taboos. Why they are taboos. Did you ever hear Mark Twains remark. I can't quote it exactly......but it amounted to.......the naked natives that lived in the tropical climates did not know that they were naked and committing a sin.......until the missionaries came and told them so.

And in regard to the chakras becoming awake, I had a very unusual experience. At least for me. I woke up in the middle of the night. Sleeping on my stomach. I looked at the wall over the headboard and there was a cross there . Incredibly bright. While I was looking at this it became brighter. At the same time I felt an incredible shooting pain enter the base of my spine. It passed up to my head and exploded. The light was absolutely blinding. I will not ever forget. When I was fully conscious again I got up and wrote a Poem. It took less than 10 minutes to write. No redos. It just flew from my pen. I have it still. Entirely the counterpart to the dark night of the soul. I feel I was incredibly blessed to have been directed to write it all on paper. To be given the gift of clarity in such a way that I would not forget what I was shown. Sorry, I thought this would be short. I think the ultimate orgasm.

[Bubu]

There is some credibility to your info worth exploring
Could this be the reason why we normally see pair of men and women which we call marriage? Is the shortest route (for most) to connect with source is in pairs?

[dianna]

History of Sacred Sexuality

Ancient Practitioners of Sacred Sex

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An Overview

Although humanity has often struggled with sexuality and similarly related issues, there have always been arts and sciences devoted to honoring the sacred, sexual self. In fact, the universe and its origins are steeped in a fusion (or intercourse) of creative forces in cosmic and human forms. All sacred thought systems contain concepts of male and female aspects of this Creative Force. Additionally, every major religion and philosophy has a sect devoted to mysticism. Each sect of mysticism has a faction devoted to understanding and exploring the deeper concepts behind sacred sexuality and the practical integration of spirituality and sexuality.

The practice of sacred sexuality dates back to an ancient culture known as the Lemurians. Although there are no known written records of their sexual practices, their methods were kept alive through their descendants, such as the people of the Hawaiian Islands. The Lemurians combined creativity, vibrational healing, aromatherapy, and spirituality. They lived in harmony with body and soul and honored the creative and feminine aspects of life. They were also the originators of the healing art known as Reiki, which was preserved by their descendents in Tibet and surrounding regions. All other ancient arts of sacred sexuality are remnants of those founded by this original race.

The oldest arts of sacred sexuality that have been preserved in a relatively complete form are those of Tantra and the Taoist arts of sexology, estimated to be several thousand years old. The western mystics who explored sacred sexuality in the concealed form of alchemy or energetic transmutation came much later. Nevertheless, whatever the name of the sacred art or the time in which it was practiced, the goals have always been the same. The arts of sacred sexuality have always been practiced with the intent of transforming mundane thoughts, feelings, and energy into a higher, spiritualized, personal experience of oneness, or union, with all that exists.

Tantra

Tantra is arguably the oldest known art of sacred sexuality practiced today. The true story of the origins of Tantra is obscure, to say the least. The various versions of its origins include Tantra as being a well-organized system from some factions of Hinduism. Others say it came from Buddhist sects. Still others say it gradually developed from communities within small East Indian villages.

Some people believe that Tantra evolved from the practice of yoga, which, like Tantra, is about liberation and joining. In fact, many of the physically challenging sexual positions of Tantric lovemaking are actually yoga postures used for personal awakening.

Tantra is a Sanskrit word of two parts. The prefix, tan, means “to expand, join or weave.” The latter part, tra, means “tool.” Therefore, the definition of the term Tantra has a two-fold meaning—“a tool to expand, liberate, and bring together.” What is known about Tantra is that the most common form is preserved through such writings as the Kama Sutra (probably written around the time of Christ) and the Ananga Ranga (a collection of erotic works from around 1100 A.D.) The purest form of Tantra was not passed down in writing, but only by way of initiations and personal instruction.

The Kama Sutra was written by a noble man who saw life as consisting of dharma (spiritual substance), artha (financial substance), and kama (sensual substance). Kama is said to be “the enjoyment of appropriate objects by the five senses…assisted by the mind, together with the soul.” Although Tantra might appear to be an art of sexual pleasuring and the Kama Sutra a manual of sexual positions, the real goal of kama is to cultivate love and reverence for the person with whom the Tantric pleasure.

Although most spiritual disciplines insist on evolving into higher states of consciousness by controlling or denying the senses and lower states of consciousness, Tantra teaches that you cannot experience complete personal and spiritual liberation while restricting a part of your being. Tantra is a profound form of active meditation that expands consciousness using the senses to take you beyond the realm of the senses. It teaches that sacred sexuality is a way of deepening intimacy and expanding consciousness, a way to achieve freedom from limitations and to join with the Divine.

Observing a Tantric experience, you might assume you are simply witnessing “great sex.” But if you could see the experience clairvoyantly, you would witness an amazing dance of energy and color, not unlike a fireworks display. Furthermore, if you could see into the hearts and souls of the participants, you would observe a consecrated joining of loving intent.

Valerie Brooks, author of Tantric Awakening, summarizes the stages of the Tantric lovemaking experience as follows:

1. Physical: total concentration on the physical pleasure in the moment.
2. Emotional: immersion in loving thoughts and worship of your partner’s divinity.
3. Spiritual: feeling yourself and your partner as a single unit that is connected to Spirit, or God.

Just as some of the world’s greatest spiritual teachers have said that Heaven cannot be accurately described in words, the essence of Tantra cannot be captured in either oral or written words. To truly understand Tantra, it has to be experienced.

In addition to cosmic, mystical experiences, Tantric masters are also interested in having deeply personal experiences with other people and the world in which they live. When a deep interconnection is established, the formerly perceived space between any two people or objects becomes filled with the light of Spirit. This spiritual presence activates and excites the etheric energy within and between the two, joining them as one. That which was contracted and separate is now free to expand and unite. This is Tantra!

True Tantra is a spiritual path and is practiced with an air of sacredness. Since Tantra is practiced as a spiritual ceremony, as with all forms of spiritual worship, there is an acknowledging and honoring (worshiping) of a Divine Being. However, in Tantra, this deity is reflected and honored in your partner, rather than in an intellectual concept or vague image. Therefore, Tantra is not an abstract form of spiritual practice, but a practical one, wherein the experience with the Divine is brought down to the very realm of the senses. Of course, this is not to say that the tantrika (practitioner of Tanta) cannot choose to practice other forms of spirituality and worship. It’s just that Tantra challenges lovers to see the Divine Presence of God in and through each other.

Tantra has two distinct paths of training, a left-hand path (vama-marga) and a right-hand path (dakshina-marga). The left-hand path practices a more literal form of Tantra that usually involves intercourse. The right-hand path, on the other hand, practices a symbolic form of Tantra that views intercourse as an allegory. The left-hand path of Tantra practices the maithuna ritual known as “The Five Makaras.” During an evening gathering, several practitioners join to partake of the five symbols of pleasure, which are madya (wine), matsya (fish), mamsa (meat), mudra (parched grain), and maithuna (sacred sex).

In Tantric writings, a woman’s sexual and spiritual energies are often referred to as shakti. In Hindu traditions the goddess Shakti represents the female principle or energy. Although the female force, or shakti, exists in both women and men, women are seen as the “guardians” of the shakti energy. According to ancient Tantric writings, the power of the shakti is limitless. Once awakened, this spiritual, energetic, and sexual force can be channeled creatively.

Upon awakening, Shakti rises up the spine to meet Shiva, her male counterpart. Together their merged energies create an alchemical fusion of bliss. Thus in Tantra, the coupling of a man and woman serves to represent this greater, universal creative process, as the intercourse between a couple simulates the creation dance of Shakti and Shiva.

Tantra is not to be confused with other arts of sacred sexuality, including Taoist sexual practices. Tantra (from India) and Taoism (from China) are similar, but are also quite different. Both involve balancing the male and female energies. What Tantra calls the dance of Shakti and Shiva, Taoists call the balancing of yin and yang. Both systems have a goal of total physical and spiritual union. Tantra and Taoism are each an ancient form of sacred sexuality. Also, in both traditions, sexuality is practiced in a spiritual context.

Nevertheless, the differences are very distinct. For example, Tantra uses more ceremony and ritual, while Taoism is more scientific and focuses on the body, its meridians, and energy systems. Tantra is an art, while Taoist sexology is a science. In Tantra there is less emphasis on “controlling orgasms” by “constricting specific muscles.” Instead, in the art of Tantra there is emphasis on relaxing into the orgasmic sensations, rather than tensing in any form. On the other hand, in the Taoist sexual systems, control and muscle constriction are at the very heart of the techniques and principles. Tantrikas may not agree with all Taoist concepts of ejaculation control. Taoists have developed their principles of sexuality into a science that has worked for thousands of years. Taoist masters, who are commonly known to live in vibrant health for well over a hundred years, attribute their semi-immortality to their sexual practices of ejaculation control and in-jaculation.

Because of the differences between Tantric and Taoist sexual practices, most practitioners of any ancient system of sexuality follow only one of these two paths. Few practitioners have learned to reconcile, synthesize, and integrate the two. Nevertheless, the key to successfully practicing sacred sexuality is to use both techniques at precisely the right moment.

Taoist Sexology

Although Taoism (pronounced Dow-ism), as a philosophy or religion in China, developed later than the Hindu religion of India, both traditions embraced some form of sacred sexuality. The Chinese sexual arts were developed by the Yellow Emperor (Huang-Ti) and his “three immortal ladies” long before Taoism, which means that although Hinduism is older than Taoism, the Chinese sexual arts are still as ancient as Tantra.

Like Tantra, Taoism has many facets, sex being only one of eight “spokes to their wheel.” Royalty often consulted the wise and respected Taoist masters on issues related to philosophy, health, life, and sex. Some of these teachings were preserved and are known as “Canons of Wisdom.” The most common set of ancient writings on Taoist lovemaking is called the “pillow books.”

The primary purpose behind Taoist lovemaking is the transformation of sexual energy into healing energy and vitality, resulting in better health and potential immortality. The primary Taoist technique to achieve these healing effects is called the inward orgasm (in-jaculation), whereby the orgasmic energy rises up the spine, stimulating the endocrine glands, energy systems, nervous system, and organs. Taoists teach that an inner orgasm (in-jaculation) stimulates life and vitality, while the outer orgasm (e-jaculation) brings death or loss of health and vitality. An in-jaculation is the most effective tool for transforming a physical orgasm into an energetic orgasm. Of course, there are even higher levels of orgasm as well, including a soul-level, total-being orgasm.

Taoist self-transformation exercises are designed to bring the practitioner to a state of immortality by cultivating what they refer to as the three energies, or “Three Treasures.” The first is ching (sexual and physical energy), the second is qi (etheric and breath energy), and the third is shen (mental and spiritual energy). Only with sufficient ching can the body produce sufficient qi. Then, with sufficient qi, a balance of shen is restored. These three essences must be restored and refined to their optimum level and balance to attain the gifts of the “Three Treasures,” or the “Elixir of Immortality.” Practitioners of Taoist sexuality believe that sexual energy is the most powerful human energy and that the use of sexual rejuvenation and in-jaculation techniques are the most effective and efficient way to revitalize and develop these “Three Treasures.”

Taoists use imaginative, and sometimes humorous, metaphors to illustrate their concepts about sexuality. For example, they regard man as fire and woman as water. Fire, once started, burns fast and can burn out, when, on the other hand, the woman (or water) is just beginning to boil (or get hot). Therefore, the man must control his fire to prolong his climax (and erection). Then he can help the woman reach her natural stages of warming up toward orgasm, thus enhancing the experience for both partners.

Again, Taoists say that the male is like fire and the woman is like water. The man’s fire (penis or lingam) boils the woman’s water (her womb or yoni). If the man is not trained in the art of lovemaking, her water will extinguish his fire. Thus, the soft and yielding (yin) can conquer the hard (yang), just as the proverbial flowing river conquers the hardest of rocks.

Taoists do not merely teach exercises to enhance the pleasure of partnership. They also encourage self-mastery and self-awareness for improved health and vitality. They clearly teach the importance of drawing in the sexual energy and experience, rather than focusing on sexual organs and external stimuli. Any focus on the sexual organs is used only to introduce the practitioner to more advanced concepts. Taoist master Mantak Chia says that the goal of Taoist sexual practices is like that of making chicken broth: If you boil a chicken in water and extract the vital essence into the water, which is more valuable, the chicken or the broth? Clearly, the Taoists believe the valuable energy generated during lovemaking is more vital to one’s well-being than the stimulation to the organs.

In the Taoist tradition, sexual energy is nurtured and valued for its role in the overall well-being of the body, mind, and spirit. It is the water of life, or life-giving essence, for all that exists in the material world. Taoists see sexual energy as the fuel behind the body’s chi (energy, vital essence or life-force). Stimulation of the sexual organs and sex glands enhances this life-force and thereby encourages the secretion of hormones from the other major endocrine glands (adrenal, thymus, thyroid, pituitary, and pineal). Therefore, Taoist sexual exercises assist in the production of potent hormones and stimulate the healthy function of the endocrine glands, the master controls of the body.

Taoists are emphatic about the value of semen retention, or in-jaculation. The ancient Taoist masters referred to a ten-day process that procured the invaluable results of ejaculation retention. In one ancient text they wrote:

“If a man has intercourse once without spilling his seed, his vital essence is strengthened. If he does this twice, his vision and hearing are made clearer. If three times, his physical illnesses will begin to disappear. The fourth time he will begin to feel inner peace. The fifth time his blood will circulate powerfully. The sixth time his genitals will gain new prowess. By the seventh his thighs and buttock (muscles and meridians) will become firm. The eighth time his entire body will radiate good health. The ninth time his life-span will be increased.”
–Canon of Taoist Wisdom
Sexuality of the Western Mystics

The art of sacred sexuality (during the Middle Ages) was known as alchemy, meaning “All-Chemistry” or “God’s Chemistry.” This lost science was said to have been the art of transmuting base metals into gold. It’s now understood that the western mystics were actually using metaphor to discuss their art of sacred sexuality. They were describing the transmutation of base, sexual energy into valuable, ecstatic, soul-level orgasms.

The only transformer and alchemist that turns everything into gold is love.
–Anais Nin

Common tools of the alchemist include the pestle and mortar, which are symbols of a lingam (penis) and yoni (vagina). Here, the grinding activity between the two represents sexual union. Other tools of the alchemist are the wand and cistern or knife and bowl. Again these symbolize the creative activity between the male and female principles, or the lingam and yoni. Furthermore, these symbols of sexual union represent the creative mind piercing and activating the receptive void, just as “the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the deep.”

Unfortunately, some practitioners of what is commonly referred to as sex magic or alchemical sex have a different focus. Their goal is ego self-gratification, not joining in oneness. While all practitioners of sex magic may not be ego-centered, many of them are known to maintain a detachment from their lovers and use them as mere tools to ignite their own energetic systems. Lacking true intimacy and spiritual depth, however, their sexual encounters can never be confused with anything sacred–particularly sacred sexuality.

Tales of Sacred Sexuality

The following are myths, legends, and stories of sacred sexuality from numerous cultures throughout history. Each legend possesses valuable insights into the meaning of sacred sexuality.

Actaeon and Diana

When Actaeon, (a respected hunter who symbolizes the physical self) happened upon the great goddess Diana, naked and washing herself, he failed to fall down and worship her. Instead, he chose to make a sexual advance. Because he failed to see and honor her divinity, she turned him into a stag (symbolizing his out-of-control horniness). Afterwards, Actaeon’s own hunting dogs devoured him. This story suggests that when our sexual desires are out of control and we fail to recognize the sacred spirit within that which we desire, our actions will inevitably destroy us.

Cupid and Psyche

The story of Cupid and Psyche offers deep insights into the connection between eroticism and spirituality. Cupid, who is also known as Eros, or Amour, is the god of erotic love, and Psyche represents the beauty of the soul.

When the goddess Venus becomes jealous of Psyche’s beauty, Venus asks Eros to cause Psyche to fall in love with some unworthy man. Instead, Eros takes Psyche away to his own secret place, where he protects and visits her under the cloak of darkness, so she never sees his face. Eros explains to Psyche that although he is a god, he doesn’t want her to fear or revere him, but to love him as an equal. Herein, the story reveals the importance of mutuality and equality in a relationship of love.

Eventually, Psyche is coaxed (by her envious sisters) to break her vow to Eros and to attempt to see her lover in the light. So while he is sleeping, she takes a candle to bed to see his face. But the hot wax drips on his shoulder and awakens him. Sadly, Eros flies away on his white wings after telling Psyche, “Love cannot dwell with suspicion.” This story conveys the invaluable lesson that trust is necessary if lovers are to remain united. In breaking their agreement to honor the mystery, Psyche attempted to know her lover through her eyes and mind, instead of allowing the knowing of her heart to be sufficient. Hence, in her attempt to limit and control Eros, she sacrificed everything.

Later, after Psyche is put through some seemingly impossible initiations by the goddess Venus (tests which Eros secretly helps her pass), the goddess is satisfied and allows Psyche to drink the sacred ambrosia and become immortal. Thus, Psyche is reunited with Eros, and they begin an eternal union.

Eventually, the union of Eros and Psyche (sexuality and spirituality) produces a daughter, whose name is Pleasure, suggesting that true pleasure can be attained only through the proper, healthy union of the loving soul (Psyche) with the passionate body (Eros). Furthermore, for this union to survive, it must be revered as sacred and maintain the elements of spontaneity and mystery.

Dionysus–The God of Abandon

Although the story of Dionysus might seem unfamiliar, elements of his legend are firmly embedded in modern history, religion, and psychology. Dionysus is the personification of divine ecstasy, which, in human hands, can bring either transcendent joy or madness–spiritual liberation or physical addiction. The word ecstasy comes from the root ex stasis, meaning “to stand outside oneself” (which is what happens when we have an experience that is too powerful for the body to contain).

Dionysus is often referred to as the god of abandon, the god of ecstasy or the god of the vine, meaning “wine,” but not “drunkenness,” as often portrayed. In fact, drunkenness was not permitted at ancient Dionysian gatherings, since it was believed that one had to maintain conscious awareness to avoid being possessed by negative spirits while in such a vulnerable and open state.

Greek god Dionysis and consorts Dionysus represents the ecstasy of the senses and the sensuous world and is therefore the antithesis of the intellectual thought processes. Ancient civilizations honored Dionysus by many names and in diverse forms. In fact, the practice of the orgy was originally a ritual honoring the god Dionysus–the god of liberation and abandon. The theatre is said to also have originated as one of the Dionysian rituals.

Since he represented the awakening of the earth, the Christians turned the youthful, androgynous, and beautiful Dionysus into a goat image, depicted with what they perceived as the face of the devil. Yet, paradoxically, many churches still practice Dionysian rituals. In fact, there are numerous parallels between Dionysus and Jesus–making Jesus a living embodiment of Dionysus. Both are sons of Divine Fathers and mortal, virgin mothers. The mothers of both are said to have ascended to Heaven. The father of Dionysus is Zeus (sometimes called Dias-Pitar, meaning “God, the father”), while that of Jesus is referred to as “the Father, God.” Both beings are said to have visited hell, or the underworld, and both Dionysus and Jesus were hailed as “King of Kings.” Additionally, Dionysus and Jesus both die and are reborn, becoming symbols of transformation. Afterwards, Dionysus ascends to Olympus and Jesus, to Heaven, while both sit at the right hand of God. The name Dionysus means “son of God,” while Jesus was called the “son of God.”

Dionysus and Jesus both suffered at the hands of local authorities and were said to have mingled with men and women of questionable character and low repute. Also, both show a disregard for the established modes of worship.

Given all the similarities between Dionysus and Jesus, it becomes clear that both beings personify the living Christ, one as a mythological archetype and the other as a living incarnation. Dionysus is the male archetype of Christ consciousness expressed in sensual form just as Mary Magdalene is for the female.

Paradise Lost

The English poet John Milton reveals incredible insights into the role and higher purpose of sexual encounters. In Paradise Lost, he depicts a conversation between Adam and the Archangel Raphael. Here, Adam shares his perplexing attraction for Eve as follows:

“To love thou blam’st me not, for love thou say’st
Leads up to heav’n, is both the way and guide;
Bear with me then, if lawful what I ask:
Love not the heav’nly spirits, and how their love
Express they, by looks only, or do they mix
Irradiance, virtual or immediate touch?”
To whom the Angel, with a smile that glowed
Celestial rosy red, love’s proper hue,
Answered: “Let it suffice thee that thou know’st
Us happy, and without love no happiness.
Whatever pure thou in the body enjoy’st
(And pure thou wert created) we enjoy
In eminence, and obstacle find none
Of membrane, joint, or limb…”


In this poem, Milton touches upon some of the themes of Genesis I and II. He implies that it is possible for human partnerships to be blessed with love; that the body was created pure; that sexual intercourse is pure and undefiled as long as the soul and body are properly connected to their Divine Source; and that human sexual love is a reflection of a greater Love Divine. Milton also implies that although the angels have a higher vibrational presence, they still enjoy some form of passionate expression. He further indicates that despite the higher form of angelic interaction, the angels themselves do not hold a judgment for the seemingly more limited human expressions through “membranes, joints, or limbs.”

The Return of the Goddess

There is a legend telling of a time when the gods were troubled by the appearance of a giant stone phallus (penis or lingam) that was destroying paradise. This black stone lingam was demolishing forests, homes, lakes, and mountains. The gods sent their armies to stop him but to no avail. In a moment of insight, the helpless gods remembered a great goddess whom they had formerly ignored. They humbly went to her, acknowledged her value, and said they would continue such an acknowledgement if she ended the destruction imposed by the lingam. So the goddess descended from the sky, took hold of the giant stone phallus, and slipped him deep inside of her. This act brought him such incredible pleasure that his aggression was completely dissolved.

Shakti and Shiva

Shakti and Shiva are female and male Tantric deities representing the masculine and feminine aspects of a greater deity. Although these beings are deified, they are both found within all men and women. The whole universe is said to be created from the union of Shakti and Shiva.

In Hindu mythology, Shiva (man) needs Shakti (woman) to give him form, and Shakti (woman) needs Shiva (man) to give her consciousness. He can teach her wonderful things, but she can always humble him by reminding him of his limits. In this sense, the two are necessary to achieve the perfect universal dance of life.


(Excerpt from: Sacred Sexuality–A Manual for Living Bliss by: Michael Mirdad)
http://www.spiritualtantra.net/histo...cred-sexuality

[greybeard]

Margot Anand wrote a beautiful book on Sacred Sexuality.
I haven’t watched this video yet but I can recommend the book.

A celibate Buddhist Monk was asked if he missed orgasm ---his reply was that in the state of Samadhi it was like continuous orgasm--the bliss state the same.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z9aBuUV8Gc

[Mike]

Margot Anand wrote a beautiful book on Sacred Sexuality.
I haven’t watched this video yet but I can recommend the book.

A celibate Buddhist Monk was asked if he missed orgasm ---his reply was that in the state of Samadhi it was like continuous orgasm--the bliss state the same.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z9aBuUV8Gc

sure, but for every Buddhist monk that reaches Samadhi, there are likely several failures who will look back at 80 odd years of sexless misery and wonder why they wasted all that time denying themselves when they could have been getting laid the entire time;) thank god for reincarnation, right?

i just don't believe you can deny anything productively that you haven't already experienced. because then "denying" becomes the new obsession. i think you have to be truly ready to set some things aside, on all levels.

[conk]

3-10 seconds?! Something wrong there.

[carriellbee]

One morning, about three years ago, I sat down at my dining room table with a cup of coffee. There was a small pipe on the table and I took one hit of some pot which had been gifted to me by a native american elder a couple of weeks before. And then, for some unknown reason, I did something I had never done before.

On a post-it note, I wrote something that had actually been on my mind for years, "Why do I have to be stoned to feel like myself." What proceeded was the most amazing experience of my life. I followed what I later learned was the sound current to Source and when I arrived at Source, the sound was absolutely the most beautiful sound I have ever heard. It was like falling into a vast ocean of unconditional love. I knew then that we are all one and that we are all god.

And at the moment of falling into the oneness/god/unconditional love, I had the most amazing, almost indescribable orgasm. I was able to do that again two more times that day, but not since then. I had never meditated or even thought about pursuing spiritual awakening before that day. I am grateful every day that I had that experience. It was amazing and has completely changed the way I look at things.

I thought I had lost the post-it note, but just a couple of weeks ago, I found it tucked into the pages of a book, "The Tao of Pooh" by Benjamin Hoff. I found it interesting that I found it in that book...

[GloriousPoetry]

Cristian,

Excellent thread.....very well written. I would only clarify that indeed we live in a ''hypermasculine'' society but that we live in a feminine planet therefore making source a feminine energy.....being cut off from its totality continues to hurt humanity......sexual energy is a beautiful and powerful gift we have yet to embrace with dignity and grace.

[Mitm]

Anastasia says that the energy released from an orgasm (though not sure if its only when a Man & womans energy meet), an unembodied spirit is created.. as that energy has to go somewhere and doesnt just disappear, just as thoughts also do not just disappear.. In the ved-russ days (Vedic Russia) copulation was ONLY used to produce offspring, and the moment of conception was when the two lovers creative thoughts intertwined NOT Their bodies... (just imagine how many unembodied spirits there are around, that have been created unconsciously through orgasm) She says also that these spirits 'live' a torturous experience..

[Metaphor]

Anastasia says that the energy released from an orgasm (though not sure if its only when a Man & womans energy meet), an unembodied spirit is created.. as that energy has to go somewhere and doesnt just disappear, just as thoughts also do not just disappear.. In the ved-russ days (Vedic Russia) copulation was ONLY used to produce offspring, and the moment of conception was when the two lovers creative thoughts intertwined NOT Their bodies... (just imagine how many unembodied spirits there are around, that have been created unconsciously through orgasm) She says also that these spirits 'live' a torturous experience..
I strongly doubt that we create a spiritual entity when orgasming. But I do think we attract spirits at that moment. I can recall having very profound and different orgasms at the 2 moments I made my wife pregnant.

[Hazel]

So worthwhile and life affirming this thread...
anyone have a spare cigarett!


A sharing of orgasmic phenonema:
(in kind i.e... wry grin)

At a time in my young care-free life when maternal thoughts were far from interest.. in the moments during and after an orgasm I was certain I had just 'conceived' my first child: I felt something extra which l can only describe as a loving and beautiful presence and spontaneously saw a baby lucidly in my minds eye... 9mths later post her birth the very same child lay in my arms.

And another thing: the waves of primal energy/pain/sensations that it feels we women are but a conduit for, when in the process of giving birth is said by many to be like a giant orgasm... and for me, both times.. in the moments my babies were being fully expelled, the wave of release was just so.

[Magneticman]

I believe Dr Willhelm Reich really had a very good idea about energy and orgasms. The word "Orgone energy" was coined by this gentleman. In the mid1950's he was a Psyhcologist specialising in helping people with marital issues. (forgive me if my date/ time is out I read about him eons ago). He had a great reputation and was distinguished at his job.

To do what he did he watched many couples interact (not joining in..I

Obviously he was right onto it so the PTB at that time put him

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[transiten]

Goodmorning, having Venus conj Venus trine Mars transits today:luv:

I find it strange that sexuality is so seldom adressed in fora like this since it is the prerequisite for us to be here in the first place! I live in Sweden where sex has not been a taboo for some decades and now it almost has gone to the other extreme. It's obvious that talking about personal experiences in this field is still not common in the world at large and obviously not here either considering the few answers and i can understand this since i've become more secretive myself the more i understand how deep it goes and the connection to sometimes not desirable unconscious patterns.

By the way the day greybeard posted about tantra there was a radisoshow about Tantra here in Sweden:tea:

[greybeard]

Mantak Chia has some interesting books on this as does Barry Long.
Unfortunately as transiten has said there is a reluctance to discuss this valuable subject in the West.
We are conditioned to believe that love making is, almost, the original sin.

Chris

[Becky]

Women who are lucky enough to have a private and enjoyable labour (in an environment they feel safe in) sometimes have a massive orgasm as their baby is born...so so different from the way the vast majority of women experience childbirth where they are observed and 'manhandled' which often makes women traumatized and leads to the need for an assisted (forceps/ventouse) birth or cesarean.
It makes me (and many others in the natural childbirth movement) think that this is how womens bodies are meant to function. Labour is not meant to be horrifically painful. If a women feels safe and happy, loved and cared for, and in an intimate environment, then her labour can be joyous, empowering, sexy and orgasmic. If only everyone knew this! Babies are meant to come out the way they came in!

[christian]

In my experience, orgasmic releases are certainly not exclusively experienced during sex. And yeah, it's all about the struggle to focus on one's true refinement instead of thoughtlessly indulging in carnal desires.

As for sex-related orgasms, for me this is at the essence of it:


Taoists have developed their principles of sexuality into a science that has worked for thousands of years. Taoist masters, who are commonly known to live in vibrant health for well over a hundred years, attribute their semi-immortality to their sexual practices of ejaculation control and in-jaculation.

I don't know how old I'm gonna be, but the science still applies. I second what Chris said, Mantak Chia's Tao Yoga of Love books encouraged me a lot to go for what I intuitively always felt must be possible, but which I found hard a little hard to wrap my limited intellect around when there were no other sources or reports about this and no modern science to explain how it actually works.

[toad]

http://www.ted.com/talks/mary_roach_10_things_you_didn_t_know_about_orgasm.html

Nice lecture about the strangeness of orgasms.

[minkton]

Margot Anand wrote a beautiful book on Sacred Sexuality.
I haven’t watched this video yet but I can recommend the book.

A celibate Buddhist Monk was asked if he missed orgasm ---his reply was that in the state of Samadhi it was like continuous orgasm--the bliss state the same.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z9aBuUV8Gc

sure, but for every Buddhist monk that reaches Samadhi, there are likely several failures who will look back at 80 odd years of sexless misery and wonder why they wasted all that time denying themselves when they could have been getting laid the entire time;) thank god for reincarnation, right?

i just don't believe you can deny anything productively that you haven't already experienced. because then "denying" becomes the new obsession. i think you have to be truly ready to set some things aside, on all levels.
I wouldnt feel sorry for the meditating monks if I were you. They receive a transmission which takes them to samadhi and the orgasmic and soul bliss they experience so far transcends a 'normal' persons orgasmic pleasure that you just cant conceive of it. Samadhi dwarfs ordinary sex life, as an elephant dwarfs an ant. Anyone born into the tradition has done enough in past lives to be initiated.

It may seem tempting to imagine such a monk has a lesser experience than yourself, but that is really just ego seeking dominance over another person's experience which is unknown to you, and discomfort at the thought of endless orgasmic bliss on the highest and deepest levels being lived by someone!

The bliss of such work is beyond the physical body and includes higher bodies so the intensity and fulfillingness of it surpasses imagination.

[Camilo]

Great thread indeed. Thank you all for your input.

[Earth Angel]

great thread.....may need a bump!

[whenyournex2me]

I dont have the time right now to read this all... i will when i get home, but i wanted to say, i try to have as many orgasms as I can every day. is that bad?

[Natalia]

Has anyone ever orgasm-ed on their own without doing anything? No physical touching...I have a few times, like a big heart orgasm...(and the other ones and joined)...*giggle*

(not that it was done on purpose, just happened...)...

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[bruno dante]

Has anyone ever orgasm-ed on their own without doing anything? No physical touching...I have a few times, like a big heart orgasm...(and the other ones and joined)...*giggle*

(not that it was done on purpose, just happened...)...

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As a matter of fact I have had that experience, Amethyst. Many times. Surely the ancient Taoists have some esoteric explanation, but I've always just called them "wet dreams".:)

It's ironic: we generally regard the highly evolved among us as prudes - particularly those who have taken vows of celibacy - but they're likely getting off much more than most of us, I reckon, if you'll forgive the phrase. They're just using a different method. Think about it: most holy men have this sort of sly, ironic, almost imperceptible grin...like they know something we don't. Clever buggers

[Omni]

Haven't read this thread but I do have a perspective to add that perhaps hasn't been discussed yet. I have had technological orgasms. Chakras can be effected in conjunction with an orgasm to do some amazing things. I believe many people naturally have a system attached to their chakras when they orgasm(especially females). Explaining the kind of deeper feeling of it that can be detected often in subtle(or big) ways.

In the future we will be able to give ourselves orgasms at will, on any spot on the body. ETs have shown me (purely scientifically lol ;) )that the orgasm feeling can be felt all over the body. I have also been offered a female orgasm before by the same source that occasionally offers me things to approve or deny as an experience.... This may seem odd to you, they know I'm open to other experiences... One time I was asked if I wanted to know what being gay felt like. I provided my terms of experiencing it, such as no side effects, nothing sexual really just a subtle idea of it, and others, once i felt I covered my basis for anything I did not want, I agreed. And sure enough, I know what it's like to be attracted to a man. Lasted for like 2 seconds(they could detect when I lost interest)...

The good ones ask, the US gov just does it if they can most of the time, so I welcome beings that ask me what I want to experience. It has yielded me some amazing experiences. Seeing ET ships up close (and afar), seeing their ship zip across the sky in a bright white light line zipping across the sky. Seeing what a female orgasm felt like(maybe). etc. Some interesting stuff to me anyway. lol

Sry kind or rambling..

So when we have the ability to give ourselves orgasms at will, what do you think is the proper way to give yourself orgasms? none because its technology? All the time would create imbalances I think. At least that is what ETs said to me(if it was an ET source) when they were speaking on this subject... I know most ETs don't have the stigma that "Its technology so its bad", but they said that is from many thousands (or millions) of years of using technology as a useful tool. It doesn't take any implants...

I do not think a natural orgasm can reach the levels technology can provide. They can give you an intense orgasm feeling that radiates gold shards of energy in your most sensitive areas(only way I can describe it), while affecting your chakras to have love in your heart chakra deeply fused with a great feeling that is 'symbiant' to love, and gravity feeling very orgasmic energy throughout the chakral body. Waves of hair on end type stuff waving over your whole body... Ive experienced so many types of good feeling technology... The heart chakra orgasm was one of the best. Love in heart chakra + orgasm was (maybe, harder to remember the details of these sometimes) maybe the best one I've had.

I gave an experience of beings claiming to be Anunnaki, a male and a female, the female gave me orgasms i described in this thread:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73575-Some-of-my-Experiences--UFOs-ETs-US-gov-

[Natalia]

Has anyone ever orgasm-ed on their own without doing anything? No physical touching...I have a few times, like a big heart orgasm...(and the other ones and joined)...*giggle*

(not that it was done on purpose, just happened...)...

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As a matter of fact I have had that experience, Amethyst. Many times. Surely the ancient Taoists have some esoteric explanation, but I've always just called them "wet dreams".:)

It's ironic: we generally regard the highly evolved among us as prudes - particularly those who have taken vows of celibacy - but they're likely getting off much more than most of us, I reckon, if you'll forgive the phrase. They're just using a different method. Think about it: most holy men have this sort of sly, ironic, almost imperceptible grin...like they know something we don't. Clever buggers

The heart chakra ones that I experiences were not "wet dreams!" It's just when you feel so much love inside and are very connected to it...maybe there is more to it than that...

[bruno dante]

Has anyone ever orgasm-ed on their own without doing anything? No physical touching...I have a few times, like a big heart orgasm...(and the other ones and joined)...*giggle*

(not that it was done on purpose, just happened...)...

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btw I will read this thread later, just read the first few sentences (too tired now)



As a matter of fact I have had that experience, Amethyst. Many times. Surely the ancient Taoists have some esoteric explanation, but I've always just called them "wet dreams".:)

It's ironic: we generally regard the highly evolved among us as prudes - particularly those who have taken vows of celibacy - but they're likely getting off much more than most of us, I reckon, if you'll forgive the phrase. They're just using a different method. Think about it: most holy men have this sort of sly, ironic, almost imperceptible grin...like they know something we don't. Clever buggers

The heart chakra ones that I experiences were not "wet dreams!" It's just when you feel so much love inside and are very connected to it...maybe there is more to it than that...


I was being silly;)

[Natalia]

Has anyone ever orgasm-ed on their own without doing anything? No physical touching...I have a few times, like a big heart orgasm...(and the other ones and joined)...*giggle*

(not that it was done on purpose, just happened...)...

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btw I will read this thread later, just read the first few sentences (too tired now)



As a matter of fact I have had that experience, Amethyst. Many times. Surely the ancient Taoists have some esoteric explanation, but I've always just called them "wet dreams".:)

It's ironic: we generally regard the highly evolved among us as prudes - particularly those who have taken vows of celibacy - but they're likely getting off much more than most of us, I reckon, if you'll forgive the phrase. They're just using a different method. Think about it: most holy men have this sort of sly, ironic, almost imperceptible grin...like they know something we don't. Clever buggers

The heart chakra ones that I experiences were not "wet dreams!" It's just when you feel so much love inside and are very connected to it...maybe there is more to it than that...


I was being silly;)

You got me! lol