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chocolate
12th November 2013, 03:45
''One by one the eggs were transferred from their test-tubes to the larger containers; deftly the peritoneal lining was slit, the morula dropped into place, the saline solution poured . . . and already the bottle had passed on through an opening in the wall, slowly on into the Social Predestination Room.'' Aldous Huxley, ''Brave New World''

The artificial womb exists. In Tokyo, researchers have developed a technique called EUFI -- extrauterine fetal incubation. They have taken goat fetuses, threaded catheters through the large vessels in the umbilical cord and supplied the fetuses with oxygenated blood while suspending them in incubators that contain artificial amniotic fluid heated to body temperature.

Yoshinori Kuwabara, chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology at Juntendo University in Tokyo, has been working on artificial placentas for a decade. His interest grew out of his clinical experience with premature infants, and as he writes in a recent abstract, ''It goes without saying that the ideal situation for the immature fetus is growth within the normal environment of the maternal organism.''

Kuwabara and his associates have kept the goat fetuses in this environment for as long as three weeks. But the doctor's team ran into problems with circulatory failure, along with many other technical difficulties. Pressed to speculate on the future, Kuwabara cautiously predicts that ''it should be possible to extend the length'' and, ultimately, ''this can be applied to human beings.''

For a moment, as you contemplate those fetal goats, it may seem a short hop to the Central Hatchery of Aldous Huxley's imagination. In fact, in recent decades, as medicine has focused on the beginning and end stages of pregnancy, the essential time inside the woman's body has been reduced. We are, however, still a long way from connecting those two points, from creating a completely artificial gestation. But we are at a moment when the fetus, during its obligatory time in the womb, is no longer inaccessible, no longer locked away from medical interventions.

The future of human reproductive medicine lies along the speeding trajectories of several different technologies. There is neonatology, accomplishing its miracles at the too-abrupt end of gestation. There is fetal surgery, intervening dramatically during pregnancy to avert the anomalies that kill and cripple newborns. There is the technology of assisted reproduction, the in-vitro fertilization and gamete retrieval-and-transfer fireworks of the last 20 years. And then, inevitably, there is genetics. All these technologies are essentially new, and with them come ethical questions so potent that the very inventors of these miracles seem half-afraid of where we may be heading.

Between Womb and Air

Modern neonatology is a relatively short story: a few decades of phenomenal advances and doctors who resuscitate infants born 16 or 17 weeks early, babies weighing less than a pound. These very low-birthweight babies have a survival rate of about 10 percent. Experienced neonatologists are extremely hesitant about pushing the boundaries back any further; much research is aimed now at reducing the severe morbidity of these extreme preemies who do survive.

''Liquid preserves the lung structure and function,'' says Thomas Shaffer, professor of physiology and pediatrics at the School of Medicine at Temple University. He has been working on liquid ventilation for almost 30 years. Back in the late 1960's, he looked for a way to use liquid ventilation to prevent decompression sickness in deep-sea divers. His technology was featured in the book ''The Abyss,'' and for the movie of that name, Hollywood built models of the devices Shaffer had envisioned. As a postdoctoral student in physiology, he began working with premature infants. Throughout gestation, the lungs are filled with the appropriately named fetal lung fluid. Perhaps, he thought, ventilating these babies with a liquid that held a lot of oxygen would offer a gentler, safer way to take these immature lungs over the threshold toward the necessary goal of breathing air. Barotrauma, which is damage done to the lungs by the forced air banging out of the ventilator, would thus be reduced or eliminated.

Today, in Shaffer's somewhat labyrinthine laboratories in Philadelphia, you can come across a ventilator with pressure settings that seem astoundingly low; this machine is set at pressures that could never force air into stiff newborn lungs. And then there is the long bubbling cylinder where a special fluorocarbon liquid can be passed through oxygen, picking up and absorbing quantities of oxygen molecules. This machine fills the lungs with fluid that flows into the tiny passageways and air sacs of a premature human lung.

Shaffer remembers, not long ago, when many people thought the whole idea was crazy, when his was the only team working on filling human lungs with liquid. Now, liquid ventilation is cited by many neonatologists as the next large step in treating premature infants. In 1989, the first human studies were done, offering liquid ventilation to infants who were not thought to have any chance of survival through conventional therapy. The results were promising, and bigger trials are now under way. A pharmaceutical company has developed a fluorocarbon liquid that has the capacity to carry a great deal of dissolved oxygen and carbon dioxide -- every 100 milliliters holds 50 milliliters of oxygen. By putting liquid into the lung, Shaffer and his colleagues argue, the lung sacs can be expanded at a much lower pressure.

''I wouldn't want to push back the gestational age limit,'' Shaffer says. ''I want to eliminate the damage.'' He says he believes that this technology may become the standard. By the year 2000, these techniques may be available in large centers. Pressed to speculate about the more distant future, he imagines a premature baby in a liquid-dwelling and a liquid-breathing intermediate stage between womb and air: Immersed in fluid that would eliminate insensible water loss you would need a sophisticated temperature-control unit, a ventilator to take care of the respiratory exchange part, better thermal control and skin care.

The Fetus as Patient

The notion that you could perform surgery on a fetus was pioneered by Michael Harrison at the University of California in San Francisco. Guided by an improved ultrasound technology, it was he who reported, in 1981, that surgical intervention to relieve a urinary tract obstruction in a fetus was possible.

''I was frustrated taking care of newborns,'' says N. Scott Adzick, who trained with Harrison and is surgeon in chief at the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.

When children are born with malformations, damage is often done to the organ systems before birth; obstructive valves in the urinary system cause fluid to back up and destroy the kidneys, or an opening in the diaphragm allows loops of intestine to move up into the chest and crowd out the lungs. ''It's like a lot of things in medicine,'' Adzick says, ''if you'd only gotten there earlier on, you could have prevented the damage. I felt it might make sense to treat certain life-threatening malformations before birth.''

Adzick and his team see themselves as having two patients, the mother and the fetus. They are fully aware that once the fetus has attained the status of a patient, all kinds of complex dilemmas result. Their job, says Lori Howell, coordinator of Children's Hospital's Center for Fetal Diagnosis and Treatment, is to help families make choices in difficult situations. Terminate a pregnancy, sometimes very late? Continue a pregnancy, knowing the fetus will almost certainly die? Continue a pregnancy, expecting a baby who will be born needing very major surgery? Or risk fixing the problem in utero and allow time for normal growth and development?

The first fetal surgery at Children's Hospital took place seven months ago. Felicia Rodriguez, from West Palm Beach, Fla., was 22 weeks pregnant. Through ultrasound, her fetus had been diagnosed as having a congenital cystic adenomatoid malformation a mass growing in the chest, which would compress the fetal heart, backing up the circulation, killing the fetus and possibly putting the mother into congestive heart failure.

When the fetal circulation started to back up, Rodriguez flew to Philadelphia. The surgeons made a Caesarean-type incision. They performed a hysterotomy by opening the uterus quickly and bloodlessly, and then opened the amniotic sac and brought out the fetus's arm, exposing the relevant part of the chest. The mass was removed, the fetal chest was closed, the amniotic membranes sealed with absorbable staples and glue, the uterus was closed and the abdomen was sutured. And the pregnancy continued -- with special monitoring and continued use of drugs to prevent premature labor. The uterus, no longer anesthetized, is prone to contractions. Rodriguez gave birth at 35 weeks' gestation, 13 weeks after surgery, only 5 weeks before her due date. During those 13 weeks, the fetal heart pumped normally with no fluid backup, and the fetal lung tissue developed properly. Roberto Rodriguez 3d was born this May, a healthy baby born to a healthy mother.

This is a new and remarkable technology. Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and the University of California at San Francisco are the only centers that do these operations, and fewer than a hundred have been done. The research fellows, residents working in these labs and training as the next generation of fetal surgeons, convey their enthusiasm for their field and their mentors in everything they say. When you sit with them, it is impossible not to be dazzled by the idea of what they can already do and by what they will be able to do. ''When I dare to dream,'' says Theresa Quinn, a fellow at Children's Hospital, ''I think of intervening before the immune system has time to mature, allowing for advances that could be used in organ transplantation to replacement of genetic deficiencies.''

But What Do We Want?

Eighteen years ago, in-vitro fertilization was tabloid news: test-tube babies! Now IVF is a standard therapy, an insurance wrangle, another medical term instantly understood by most lay people. Enormous advertisements in daily newspapers offer IVF, egg-donation programs, even the newer technique of ICSI intracytoplasmic sperm injection as consumer alternatives. It used to be, for women at least, that genetic and gestational motherhood were one and the same. It is now possible to have your own fertilized egg carried by a surrogate or, much more commonly, to go through a pregnancy carrying an embryo formed from someone else's egg.

Given the strong desire to be pregnant, which drives many women to request donor eggs and go through biological motherhood without a genetic connection to the fetus, is it really very likely that any significant proportion of women would take advantage of an artificial womb? Could we ever reach a point where the desire to carry your own fetus in your own womb will seem a willful rejection of modern health and hygiene, an affected earth-motherism that flies in the face of common sense -- the way I feel about mothers in Cambridge who ostentatiously breast-feed their children until they are 4 years old?

I would argue that God in her wisdom created pregnancy so Moms and babies could develop a relationship before birth, says Alan Fleischman, professor of pediatrics at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York, who directed the neonatal program at Montefiore Medical Center for 20 years.

Mary Mahowald, a professor at the MacLean Center for Clinical Medical Ethics at the University of Chicago, and one of her medical students surveyed women about whether they would rather be related to a child gestationally or genetically, if they couldn't choose both. A slight majority opted for the gestational relationship, caring more about carrying the pregnancy, giving birth and nursing than about the genetic tie. ''Pregnancy is important to women,'' Mahowald says. ''Some women might prefer to be done with all this -- we hire our surrogates, we hire our maids, we hire our nannies -- but I think these things are going to have very limited interest.''

Susan Cooper, a psychologist who counsels people going through infertility workups, isn't so sure. Yes, she agrees, many of the patients she sees have ''an intense desire to be pregnant but it's hard to know whether that's a biological urge or a cultural urge.''

And Arthur L. Caplan, director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, takes it a step further. Thirty years from now, he speculates, we will have solved the problem of lung development; neonatology will be capable of saving 15- and 16-week-old fetuses. There will be many genetic tests available, easy to do, predicting the risks of acquiring late-onset diseases, but also predicting aptitudes, behavior traits and aspects of personality. There won't be an artificial womb available, but there will be lots of prototypes, and women who can't carry a pregnancy will sign up to use the prototypes in experimental protocols. Caplan also predicts that ''there will be a movement afoot which says all this is unnecessary and unnatural, and that the way to have babies is sex and the random lottery of nature a movement with the appeal of the environmental movement today.'' Sixty years down the line, he adds, the total artificial womb will be here. ''It's technologically inevitable. Demand is hard to predict, but I'll say significant.''

It all used to happen in the dark -- if it happened at all. It occurred well beyond our seeing or our intervening, in the wet, lightless spaces of the female body. So what changes when something as fundamental as human reproduction comes out of the closet, so to speak? Are we, in fact, different if we take hands-on control over this most basic aspect of our biology? Should we change our genetic trajectory and thus our evolutionary path? Eliminate defects or eliminate differences or are they one and the same? Save every fetus, make every baby a wanted baby, help every wanted child to be born healthy -- are these the same? What are our goals as a society, what are our goals as a medical profession, what are our goals as individual parents -- and where do these goals diverge?

''The future is rosy for bioethicists,'' Caplan says.

Find the article here:
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/29/magazine/the-artificial-womb-is-born.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

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Pentagon’s Reveals their most Human like Robot http://worldtruth.tv/pentagons-reveals-their-most-human-like-robot/

Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, has released video footage of a project that’s been long in the works and really starting to now take shape. “PETMAN,” for short — is the subject of the latest clip, and very well could be all it takes to scare off any insurgents once it’s ready for the battlefield.

Built by robotics design company Boston Dynamics for the Department of Defense’s Advanced Research Project Agency (DARPA), PETMAN has shown in previous videos that it is able to climb stairs. But this time, the robot marches, squats, twists its torso, and looks around — all as part of an effort to test the clothing’s ability to keep out chemical agents.

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This Is What A Computer Simulation Of The Universe Looks Like http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/11/computer-simulation-universe_n_4254650.html?1384183981 and https://www.olcf.ornl.gov/2013/11/05/code-for-largest-cosmological-simulations-ever-on-gpus-is-gordon-bell-finalist/

Philosophers, film fans and the chemically relaxed have regularly suggested over the decades that our universe might be a computer simulation. In recent years scientists have announced that it might be possible to actually test that theory - by looking for arbitrary limits in our universe that we also see in the model universes we've already constructed.

It's all interesting - if unfortunately conceptual right now - stuff. But the fact remains we have made model universes, for real. And now you can actually look at one.

The video below is made by the Argonne National Lab of their model, the Hardware/Hybrid Accelerated Cosmology Code. The model is a 1.1 trillion particle simulation of mass expanding in a universe - nearly four times as large as comparable simulations.

It's a long way from building a replica reality in a computer. But it's fascinating science all the same.

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And last, but not least Stuxnet has infected a Russian nuclear plant and the space station http://io9.com/stuxnet-has-infected-a-russian-nuclear-plant-and-the-sp-1462375259?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
+ http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/363578,stuxnet-infected-russian-nuclear-plant.aspx

The problem with creating Stuxnet, the world's most sophisticated malware worm, is that it could eventually go rogue. Which is precisely what has happened. The US- and Israeli-built virus has spread to a Russian nuclear plant — and even the International Space Station.

Stuxnet is an incredibly powerful computer worm that was created by the United States and Israel to attack Iran's nuclear facilities. It initially spreads through Microsoft Windows and targets Siemens industrial control systems. It's considered the first malware that both spies and subverts industrial systems. It's even got a programmable logic controller rootkit for the automation of electromechanical processes.

Let that last point sink in for just a second. This thing, with a little bit of coaxing, can actually control the operation of machines and computers it infects.

For more on Stuxnet, I highly encourage you to watch this sobering TED talk by Ralph Lagner where he describes it as "a 21st century cyber weapon."

chocolate
12th November 2013, 03:51
Since this is my first thread, if for some reason I have placed it in the wrong area, the mods can relocate it.
If I manage, will continue to post articles and information I see fit in the description above.
When one can't sleep, one has to do something useful with his time, and I did not see any of this already posted before me.

chocolate
12th November 2013, 03:54
The Movie Theater of the Future Will Be In Your Mind http://tribecafilm.com/future-of-film/future-of-the-movie-theater-is-in-your-mind this is a bit old news, but at the time really ... made me feel uneasy.
Movie theaters have transformed over the past five decades from glitzy palaces displaying larger-than-life images to banal mall destinations with digital projection. But what will the movie theater of the future be like -- and how will we experience projected images decades from now? In a guest post from Tribeca Film's "Future of Film" blog, filmmaker and visual artist Andrei Severny imagines the movie theater of the future in which "cinema will quite literally start to merge and replace real life." It's a thrilling and terrifying idea. Read some of his thoughts below:

Theaters will gradually move away from looking at a rectangle of light in a dark room and evolve into large-scale public attractions becoming urban theme parks, where cinema is only part of the experience. However, the most immersive forms of cinema will play individually at one’s wish outside of both theaters and displays. There will be a merging of gaming and movies. First, through technologies emerging today - flexible screens, motion controls, haptic - or tactile - technology, smart glasses, virtual and augmented reality. The merging of real and projected worlds will produce a seamless experience - a complete illusion of being part of a film. We may reach a moment when the real world will become secondary. Landmarks and businesses will have stories, characters, sequences and scenes attached to them when one visits, all stored as potential experiences designed to increase one’s relationship to the place. Every location or object will contain massive amounts of recorded information ready for playback....

A truly dramatic change will come once scientists discover a way to manipulate senses directly through the brain. That is when cinema will quite literally start to merge and replace real life. In the new, enhanced reality people will visit other planets, venture deep into the oceans and inside volcanoes, or travel in time, all from wherever they happen to be. Software and sometimes robots will explore the unreachable physical world instead of people to collect real-time data and feed human senses. One will be able to choose between real-life exploration or a fictional quest with chosen characters. Since memories will be recorded, one would be able to include anyone they have ever encountered, including favorite celebrities or fictional heroes.

The border between reality and fiction will fade and some people will live most of their lives in a profoundly manipulated world. People's thoughts, experiences and behavior will lie in the hands of those in charge of the software. Marketing and politics are likely to pollute the system, but laws of enhanced reality voted on by the majority via the internet will come to the rescue. Humans will face challenging questions of identity. As always, there will be renegades who will try to stay "unplugged." However, the disadvantages of opting out will overcome most.

chocolate
12th November 2013, 04:00
Introducing DROID DNA by HTC
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chocolate
12th November 2013, 04:03
David Cronenberg wants you to try this creepy new brain implant http://io9.com/david-cronenberg-wants-you-to-try-this-creepy-new-brain-1278002987

David Cronenberg, who scarred the psyches of a generation with movies like Videodrome, Scanners, The Fly, and A History of Violence, is back with this bizarro art project about a mysterious "self improvement" technology called POD. Of course it is designed to network with your brain.

chocolate
12th November 2013, 04:07
All of the above articles I am posting not to promote their content, but to simply present a picture that keeps getting more and more intense, and something I am really worried will soon become a reality where the human life will be transformed into a version of a famous syfy movie.

chocolate
12th November 2013, 04:31
Tasting the Universe Synesthesia from the inside out
Girl With Synesthesia Can 'Feel' Machines http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/tasting-the-universe/201311/ghost-in-the-machine

chocolate
12th November 2013, 04:52
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Hazel
12th November 2013, 06:55
Enjoyed the ride through your fascinating posts chocolate...

Keep it coming during those slumberless nights if so inclined ... l'm in

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apokalypse
12th November 2013, 07:27
let's say Artificial Womb is a fact but what about the Soul? they go against the natural creations...

chocolate
12th November 2013, 08:58
agree, they do. that is the sole purpose of my posts.

Actually my posts come from something personal, which at this point I prefer to leave at piece, but as long as I know I am not alone, may be my sleep will come back to me.

chocolate
13th November 2013, 10:49
World's first GM babies born http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43767/Worlds-GM-babies-born.html
The world's first geneticallymodified humans have been created, it was revealed last night.
The disclosure that 30 healthy babies were born after a series of experiments in the United States provoked another furious debate about ethics.
So far, two of the babies have been tested and have been found to contain genes from three 'parents'.
Fifteen of the children were born in the past three years as a result of one experimental programme at the Institute for Reproductive Medicine and Science of St Barnabas in New Jersey.
The babies were born to women who had problems conceiving. Extra genes from a female donor were inserted into their eggs before they were fertilised in an attempt to enable them to conceive.
Genetic fingerprint tests on two one-year- old children confirm that they have inherited DNA from three adults --two women and one man.
The fact that the children have inherited the extra genes and incorporated them into their 'germline' means that they will, in turn, be able to pass them on to their own offspring.
Altering the human germline - in effect tinkering with the very make-up of our species - is a technique shunned by the vast majority of the world's scientists.
Geneticists fear that one day this method could be used to create new races of humans with extra, desired characteristics such as strength or high intelligence.
Writing in the journal Human Reproduction, the researchers, led by fertility pioneer Professor Jacques Cohen, say that this 'is the first case of human germline genetic modification resulting in normal healthy children'.
Some experts severely criticised the experiments. Lord Winston, of the Hammersmith Hospital in West London, told the BBC yesterday: 'Regarding the treat-ment of the infertile, there is no evidence that this technique is worth doing . . . I am very surprised that it was even carried out at this stage. It would certainly not be allowed in Britain.'
John Smeaton, national director of the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children, said: 'One has tremendous sympathy for couples who suffer infertility problems. But this seems to be a further illustration of the fact that the whole process of in vitro fertilisation as a means of conceiving babies leads to babies being regarded as objects on a production line.
'It is a further and very worrying step down the wrong road for humanity.' Professor Cohen and his colleagues diagnosed that the women were infertile because they had defects in tiny structures in their egg cells, called mitochondria.
They took eggs from donors and, using a fine needle, sucked some of the internal material - containing 'healthy' mitochondria - and injected it into eggs from the women wanting to conceive.
Because mitochondria contain genes, the babies resulting from the treatment have inherited DNA from both women. These genes can now be passed down the germline along the maternal line.
A spokesman for the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA), which regulates 'assisted reproduction' technology in Britain, said that it would not license the technique here because it involved altering the germline.
Jacques Cohen is regarded as a brilliant but controversial scientist who has pushed the boundaries of assisted reproduction technologies.
He developed a technique which allows infertile men to have their own children, by injecting sperm DNA straight into the egg in the lab.
Prior to this, only infertile women were able to conceive using IVF. Last year, Professor Cohen said that his expertise would allow him to clone children --a prospect treated with horror by the mainstream scientific community.
'It would be an afternoon's work for one of my students,' he said, adding that he had been approached by 'at least three' individuals wishing to create a cloned child, but had turned down their requests.

chocolate
13th November 2013, 11:06
How the Brain Creates Out-of-Body Experiences http://www.livescience.com/41128-out-of-body-experiences-explained.html

SAN DIEGO — The human mind effortlessly constructs the feeling of inhabiting a body, and now scientists are figuring out how the brain produces that experience.

The findings, presented here Sunday (Nov. 10) at the annual meeting of the Society for Neuroscience, highlight which brain regions are active when a person has an out-of-body experience.

Recent studies have shown that the brain incorporates information from multiple senses and the first-person visual perspective to create a sense of body ownership. But it's still unclear how the brain perceives the body's location in space. [Top 10 Unexplained Phenomena]
In the study, which has not yet been published in a scientific journal, participants lay inside an MRI scanner while wearing a head-mounted display that showed a first-person camera view of another person's body lying in a corner of the scanner room, with their head either parallel to a wall or perpendicular to it. Researchers from the Karolinska Institutet in Sweden repeatedly touched each participant with an object while simultaneously touching the body shown in the camera view. This gave participants the illusion that the body in the camera view belonged to them.

To heighten the illusion, the researchers used a knife to threaten the body in the camera, and measured the participants' skin conductance, or ability to conduct electricity (humans sweat more when they're scared). Indeed, the conductance went up for participants as they viewed their virtual body being threatened.

While the participants were experiencing the body illusion, their brains' parietal and premotor cortices lit up. These areas are involved in integrating sensory information and planning body movements. In addition, the level of brain activity corresponded with the strength of the illusion, suggesting these brain regions are important for producing a sense of body ownership.

The researchers also examined which brain areas represented a person's location and the direction their head was facing. Using algorithms that looked at patterns across the entire brain, they found that in addition to the parietal cortex, the hippocampus — a brain region critical for memory — was also active in producing a sense of location.

The findings suggest the brain relies on a complex interplay of information from different senses to produce the experience of being inside of a body — even when it's someone else's.

chocolate
13th November 2013, 11:21
And just to post a personal opinion based on my conclusions of all the articles presented above.

I think humanity is playing being the creator at a stage when humanity hasn't developed the spiritual body/philosophy/moral guidelines/ maturity etc to lead this process.

Let's say we can create life and destroy life, where do we start and where do we end?

chocolate
13th November 2013, 12:05
“Does a child have a right to a walk in the woods? Does an adult?” 5 Questions for Richard Louv
http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/newsfrom187/entry/7895/


"Since your essay “Leave No Child Inside” ran in our pages back in 2007, you also wrote “A Walk in the Woods” for Orion, in which you ask “Does a child have a right to a walk in the woods? Does an adult?” Are you still met with ambivalence to that question when you talk to people?

I’m grateful to Orion for having published my essay on the right to a walk in the woods; I later expanded on that piece in a chapter in The Nature Principle. I think the ambivalence that some people felt may have lifted, as they’ve come to understand that I’m not specifically talking about a legal right, but a moral right—and that this is not a right to destroy nature.

Annelies Henstra, a Dutch human rights attorney, has done important work to make that right a reality. In September 2012, the World Congress of the International Union for the Conservation of Nature (IUCN), meeting in Jeju, South Korea, passed a resolution declaring that children have a human right to experience the natural world. Henstra, and Cheryl Charles, who is president of the Children & Nature Network, and others made the case to the Congress—attended by more than 10,000 people representing the governments of 150 nations and more than 1,000 non-governmental organizations. This was an important moment for anyone concerned about the future relationship between humans and the rest of nature.

What’s the state of awareness around nature deficit disorder, the term you coined and which figured large in your important 2005 book, Last Child in the Woods?

Awareness and activism precedes Last Child in the Woods, of course. But since then there has been a perfect storm of trends that have pushed the issue forward.

Environmental organizations have helped, but groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics and many others have pushed for more connection between children and the rest of nature. Three Interior Secretaries in a row have taken on the issue, and we have particularly high hopes for the new Secretary, Sally Jewell, former head of REI.

You can see some of these results at the Children & Nature Network web site, which is the non-profit that grew out of Last Child. It’s the best place I know of to find out about past and recent research on the deficit and the benefits.

Increasingly, this is also an international movement. In North America, there are now at least 115 state, provincial, and regional campaigns to connect kids to nature—and these are bringing people to the same table that often don’t want to be in the same room. There’s something about this issue that tends to reduce political and religious divisions.

Having said that, there are still enormous barriers between children (and adults) and the natural world. I listed them in a recent blog post, under five headings: urbanization without nature, a culture of fear, silicon faith, the cultural devaluing of nature, and the cultural dominance of the post-apocalyptic view of the future.

What has pleased you most about how The Nature Principle has been received?

To a degree, I believe it helped complete the circle. Though children are the most vulnerable to the psychological, physical, and spiritual implications of the nature deficit, adults are too. So The Nature Principle extended the case to adults—and it also, to the best of my limited ability, described the potential of a new nature movement that includes traditional concerns, and sustainability (which is often defined in terms of, say, energy efficiency), to set the bar higher: to describe and help create a nature-rich civilization, with nature-rich homes, neighborhoods, workplaces, schools, cities.

Groups such as the Congress for the New Urbanism have shown interest in that concept, but the most gratifying response has come from college students, who deeply desire careers and lives dedicated to something greater than survival. I often paraphrase Martin Luther King, who demonstrated that movements fail if they cannot describe a world to which people want to go.

You excel at telling stories in your books and essays. Have you found narrative to be an important ally in your advocacy off the page, when you address groups or talk to kids?

Oh, yes, the stories add up to something larger than statistics. And people continue to tell me their stories, especially ones from their own childhoods, and I never tire of that. It doesn’t seem to matter what someone’s politics or religion are, they always want to tell me about the tree house they had when they were kids, or that special place in nature, if they’re old enough to have had that experience.

The younger people are, the less likely it is that they have those stories to share, but I believe it’s never too late, and we can reverse the deficit. Even if, in the long run, the barriers prove too high, the countless people out there who are working to reconnect children and their families and their communities to nature will have done great good in the world. The truth is, this is a happy cause.

In a recent blog post on the education system, you wrote, “For every dollar spent on the virtual, another dollar must be spent on the real.” What would that look like?

Electronic technology wouldn’t disappear from schools—a precept of The Nature Principle is that the more high tech our lives become, the more nature we need.

If our goal were to educate what I call “hybrid minds”—ones that are not only good with technology but also attuned to the patterns of the world—then things like recess, physical education, and field trips would return to schools. The movement to green schoolyards and create school gardens would grow exponentially. Teachers would be encouraged to take their student outdoors to learn. The number of nature-based schools, especially preschools, would continue to grow. As a result, test scores would improve, as would cognitive skills, and psychological and physical health of students and teachers, too.

We might also see an expanded definition of green jobs, to include careers connecting people to nature, ones that would span from nature therapists to biophilic architects, and much more; the focus of education would shift from excessive faith in electronic technology, to using appropriate technology to create a nature-rich civilization.

The New York Times asked me a similar question recently: is creativity endangered? Of course, creativity isn’t endangered; it goes on without us. But the creativity of the human experience can be preserved and greatly expanded if we do not forget where we came from."

dianna
13th November 2013, 12:18
And just to post a personal opinion based on my conclusions of all the articles presented above.

I think humanity is playing being the creator at a stage when humanity hasn't developed the spiritual body/philosophy/moral guidelines/ maturity etc to lead this process.

Let's say we can create life and destroy life, where do we start and where do we end?

Hi Chocolate, great thread

Just a thought ... what if it is not actual humanity that is playing "creator" but something playing "with" humanity (did that make sense?)

chocolate
13th November 2013, 21:30
Hi dianna! Thank you.
I feel most of what is happening (with or without the help of non-humans) originates from sides that can be considered not entirely human, but it is our choice at the end.

I think we should become more vigilant and trust our intuition and instincts while making everyday choices.

The reason I started this thread was because I was observing a trend results from which I saw in several visionary dreams that made my hair stand on its roots. My dreams are strange, symbolic and one needs to really know how to interpret them to be able to see the message, but I have learned my own non-verbal language and I know the possibility of a matrix-type situation is not just a dream or a profitable idea turned into a film. Most gadgets we use today were shown at one point in a film long before they reached our homes, so there is a good amount of truth in almost every syfy film we watch.

May be it is just me and the people like me who are being romantic believers in the wisdom of nature and the natural laws opposed to the wisdom of technology, or perhaps in technology operating for the benefit of humanity, not the other way around. We haven't learned some core parts of our own mind-body machine to want to play gods. [IMO]

I don't want to live in a world where we become more and more detached from what is our true nature, creating damage and simply following a game someone staged for us. I want a different world.

Dawn
15th November 2013, 03:51
Chocolate: I don't want to live in a world where we become more and more detached from what is our true nature, creating damage and simply following a game someone staged for us. I want a different world.

I am grateful for your work on this thread Chocolate. I was born in 1950 and my parents actively sought places to live which allowed me to have access to nature. Somehow in every city we resided they managed to find a house which was close to wilderness of some type. Thus I grew to know the untamed river that ran through Silicon Valley and the wildlive that resided there, the uncultivated parts of the nearby farmers lands, the nearby hills (which are still used for cattle ranching), and the wilderness surrounding an old abandoned mining site. All our vacations were taken as backpacking treks. My parents told us kids that 'Nature was our Church'. We were taught reverence for the web of life on the planet this way.

All 3 of us kids had our first spiritual awakening while in the woods somewhere. And, as for me, I actually was able to cross the veils between worlds while hiking in the darkness of night during a 9 year period of sleeplessness. I still am informed by nature as one of her children... that means that sometimes plants, animals, and nature spirits communicate with me .... and I have the ability to receive their messages.

Almost no one in my generation had this much exposure to nature. Today it is very difficult for me to even find such places. The farmers fields in my area are tightly fenced and the 'natural woods' are over run by campers. The 'natural parks' are expensive for day use and require that everyone stay on a deeply worn path when they walk. It is really a shame... but it is difficult to get exposure to nature in many places these days in California. Still... it can be done.

I was surprised to find out that my 40 year old neighbor and her 30 year old roommate did not know that flower seeds were made after the flower ripened. These 2 women were absolutely fascinated to find out that my marigolds had made seeds for next year. I was shocked!

I think my garden is my 'best friend' these days. It is what keeps me from being overwhelmed by the apocalyptic ideas and thoughts, which I am constantly being confronted with by the world around me. In a garden there is harmony, there is peace, and there is faith that life will continue. In a garden you can hear the language of flora and fauna.

If people do not know that they are intimately connected to the planet and all her life forms then they have no desire to care for their home. It is sad really.

I love Enya's song about being exposed to the energy of flora and fauna and how it affects us.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFYv2uopwkY

chocolate
15th November 2013, 13:46
Thank you Dawn! It means a lot to me to see that my voice can reach someone on the other side of the globe.

I am one who cannot live detached from nature. That is one of the reasons I am still living in a house in a not very sought after area in my city. The idea of being trapped in an apartment makes me shiver.

I hope my thread can be seen as a reminder that we haven't still reached the level where we are greater creators than what nature is. And also to inform ourselves about what is actually going on, and that the dark visions of the future that have been expressed through comics, novels, stories, films and music are still very much possible if we agree to this situation and allow it to happen.

Today's story:
Google Funds Creation of Secretive Avatar-Style Virtual Reality

Google is funding a secretive project that will use millions of linked computers to create an Avatar-like virtual reality world in which people could live, interact, and even have sex.
The idea sounds like a rudimentary version of the 1999 science fiction thriller The Thirteenth Floor, in which supercomputers create a simulated reality populated by human characters who don’t know that they are living in an artificially generated world.
Entitled High Fidelity, the project envisions a virtual reality “world extending visibly to vanishing points like our world does today, enabling you to see your house, your neighborhood, distant mountains, and other planets in the sky,” and will rely on “millions of people to contribute their devices and share them to simulate the virtual world.”
Second Life founder Philip Rosedale, the program’s architect, says the idea is to “create a virtual place with the kind of richness and communication and interaction that we find in the real world, and then get us all in there.” Rosedale boldly predicts that within six years High Fidelity will allow people to immerse themselves in virtual landscapes that resemble cutting edge CGI environments seen in movies likeAvatar and Star Trek.
The slogan for the project states, “If it doesn’t hurt to think about it, we’re not going to try it.”

Full article here: http://www.infowars.com/google-funds-creation-of-secretive-avatar-style-virtual-reality/

chocolate
15th November 2013, 15:10
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chocolate
17th November 2013, 13:44
A Neuroscientist’s Radical Theory of How Networks Become Conscious
"It’s a question that’s perplexed philosophers for centuries and scientists for decades: Where does consciousness come from? We know it exists, at least in ourselves. But how it arises from chemistry and electricity in our brains is an unsolved mystery.

Neuroscientist Christof Koch, chief scientific officer at the Allen Institute for Brain Science, thinks he might know the answer. According to Koch, consciousness arises within any sufficiently complex, information-processing system. All animals, from humans on down to earthworms, are conscious; even the internet could be. That’s just the way the universe works.

“The electric charge of an electron doesn’t arise out of more elemental properties. It simply has a charge,” says Koch. “Likewise, I argue that we live in a universe of space, time, mass, energy, and consciousness arising out of complex systems.”

What Koch proposes is a scientifically refined version of an ancient philosophical doctrine called panpsychism — and, coming from someone else, it might sound more like spirituality than science. But Koch has devoted the last three decades to studying the neurological basis of consciousness. His work at the Allen Institute now puts him at the forefront of the BRAIN Initiative, the massive new effort to understand how brains work, which will begin next year.

Koch’s insights have been detailed in dozens of scientific articles and a series of books, including last year’s Consciousness: Confessions of a Romantic Reductionist. WIRED talked to Koch about his understanding of this age-old question.

WIRED: How did you come to believe in panpsychism?

Christof Koch: I grew up Roman Catholic, and also grew up with a dog. And what bothered me was the idea that, while humans had souls and could go to heaven, dogs were not suppose to have souls. Intuitively I felt that either humans and animals alike had souls, or none did. Then I encountered Buddhism, with its emphasis on the universal nature of the conscious mind. You find this idea in philosophy, too, espoused by Plato and Spinoza and Schopenhauer, that psyche — consciousness — is everywhere. I find that to be the most satisfying explanation for the universe, for three reasons: biological, metaphysical and computational.
WIRED: What do you mean?
Koch: My consciousness is an undeniable fact. One can only infer facts about the universe, such as physics, indirectly, but the one thing I’m utterly certain of is that I’m conscious. I might be confused about the state of my consciousness, but I’m not confused about having it. Then, looking at the biology, all animals have complex physiology, not just humans. And at the level of a grain of brain matter, there’s nothing exceptional about human brains.

Only experts can tell, under a microscope, whether a chunk of brain matter is mouse or monkey or human — and animals have very complicated behaviors. Even honeybees recognize individual faces, communicate the quality and location of food sources via waggle dances, and navigate complex mazes with the aid of cues stored in their short-term memory. If you blow a scent into their hive, they return to where they’ve previously encountered the odor. That’s associative memory. What is the simplest explanation for it? That consciousness extends to all these creatures, that it’s an imminent property of highly organized pieces of matter, such as brains.

WIRED: That’s pretty fuzzy. How does consciousness arise? How can you quantify it?

Koch: There’s a theory, called Integrated Information Theory, developed by Giulio Tononi at the University of Wisconsin, that assigns to any one brain, or any complex system, a number — denoted by the Greek symbol of Φ — that tells you how integrated a system is, how much more the system is than the union of its parts. Φ gives you an information-theoretical measure of consciousness. Any system with integrated information different from zero has consciousness. Any integration feels like something

It's not that any physical system has consciousness. A black hole, a heap of sand, a bunch of isolated neurons in a dish, they're not integrated. They have no consciousness. But complex systems do. And how much consciousness they have depends on how many connections they have and how they’re wired up.

WIRED: Ecosystems are interconnected. Can a forest be conscious?

Koch: In the case of the brain, it’s the whole system that’s conscious, not the individual nerve cells. For any one ecosystem, it’s a question of how richly the individual components, such as the trees in a forest, are integrated within themselves as compared to causal interactions between trees.

The philosopher John Searle, in his review of Consciousness, asked, “Why isn’t America conscious?” After all, there are 300 million Americans, interacting in very complicated ways. Why doesn’t consciousness extend to all of America? It’s because integrated information theory postulates that consciousness is a local maximum. You and me, for example: We’re interacting right now, but vastly less than the cells in my brain interact with each other. While you and I are conscious as individuals, there’s no conscious Übermind that unites us in a single entity. You and I are not collectively conscious. It’s the same thing with ecosystems. In each case, it’s a question of the degree and extent of causal interactions among all components making up the system.

WIRED: The internet is integrated. Could it be conscious?

Koch: It’s difficult to say right now. But consider this. The internet contains about 10 billion computers, with each computer itself having a couple of billion transistors in its CPU. So the internet has at least 10^19 transistors, compared to the roughly 1000 trillion (or quadrillion) synapses in the human brain. That’s about 10,000 times more transistors than synapses. But is the internet more complex than the human brain? It depends on the degree of integration of the internet.

For instance, our brains are connected all the time. On the internet, computers are packet-switching. They’re not connected permanently, but rapidly switch from one to another. But according to my version of panpsychism, it feels like something to be the internet — and if the internet were down, it wouldn’t feel like anything anymore. And that is, in principle, not different from the way I feel when I’m in a deep, dreamless sleep."

Article: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/11/christof-koch-panpsychism-consciousness/?w12

chocolate
24th November 2013, 15:31
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/19/julien-mauve_n_4276863.html?utm_hp_ref=arts&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008

Have to say, sadly, I can relate to this situation...