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Maunagarjana

14th November 2013, 10:34

Rather than me writing something on the topic, just read this article:

http://www.minds.com/blog/view/38976/discovery-channel-documentary-proves-mind-control-assassin-%C2%91conspiracy%C2%92

The episode, which is fourth down on this page (entitled "Brainwashed"), can be streamed from here:

http://www.free-tv-video-online.me/internet/curiosity_the_questions_of_life/season_2.html

If you want the file, you can download it here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/4bkfx8

If you haven't seen the Derren Brown "Assassin" episode, watch it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90xfZJQzAhc

sheme

14th November 2013, 10:52

So how do the suggestible get protection from mind manipulation?

Conchis

14th November 2013, 11:51

Sirhan Sirhan, CianCia, Dressed as the Joker, and Djokhar.....

Cidersomerset

14th November 2013, 12:30

Flash

14th November 2013, 12:46

I had know doubt mind control worked from all the projects of the cold war era.
But on a simpler level, Derren Browns suggestive, hypnotic conditioning of a
member of the public to assassinate Stephen Fry in his show/documentary the Assassin. Live on stage during a presentation, Stephen who was obviously in on it
was as shocked as everyone else that his pulled the trigger with intent to kill.

Its has been illegal to show hypnotism on tv for decades, for fear of hypnotising
someone at home. It has been said that no one can be hypnotised into doing
something really bad like selfe harm or murder, but that is simly not the case
for everyone.

It is a bit of an oxymoron isn't it? illegal to show an hypnotism show on tv for fear of hypnotising someone at home, while tv itself is an hypnotism too. May be it was competition they did not want.

I was quite impressed by that episode. How can one who has no intention to kill nor to harm anybody can come and kill someone. And in the video, you can see the guy is not even sure he did not hurt anyone even after being told he did not, he ask to see the person. How unsettling it must be.

i had always heard that you won't do things you don't want to do, or things going against you core values, when hypnotised. This proves the contrary. Unsettling for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90xfZJQzAhc

there is another presentation where a guy kill someone in the street. I am looking for it. In the meantime, at the beginning of the next video, Sirhan Sirhan talks about being used, probably hypnotised, to kill Kennedy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V65NqHTgjVk

Hervé

14th November 2013, 12:59

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i had always heard that you won't do things you don't want to do, or things going against you core values, when hypnotised. This proves the contrary. Unsettling for me.

How it's done:

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Some more thoughts to feed on, regarding hypnosis, through one of my favorite example:

Cosmic Cointelpro Timeline (http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/timeline.htm)

There is a little known fact about hypnosis that is illustrated by the following story:
A subject was told under hypnosis that when he was awakened he would be unable to see a third man in the room who, it was suggested to him, would have become invisible. All the "proper" suggestions to make this "true" were given, such as "you will NOT see so- and-so" etc... When the subject was awakened, lo and behold! the suggestions did NOT work.

Why? Because they went against his belief system. He did NOT believe that a person could become invisible.

So, another trial was made. The subject was hypnotized again and was told that the third man was leaving the room... that he had been called away on urgent business, and the scene of him getting on his coat and hat was described... the door was opened and shut to provide "sound effects," and then the subject was brought out of the trance.

Guess what happened?

He was UNABLE TO SEE the Third Man.

Why? Because his perceptions were modified according to his beliefs. Certain "censors" in his brain were activated in a manner that was acceptable to his ego survival instincts.

The ways and means that we ensure survival of the ego are established pretty early in life by our parental and societal programming. This conditioning determines what IS or is NOT possible; what we are "allowed" to believe in order to be accepted. We learn this first by learning what pleases our parents and then later we modify our belief based on what pleases our society - our peers - to believe.

Anyway, to return to our story, the Third Man went about the room picking things up and setting them down and doing all sorts of things to test the subject's awareness of his presence, and the subject became utterly hysterical at this "anomalous" activity! He could see objects moving through the air, doors opening and closing, but he could NOT see the SOURCE because he did not believe that there was another man in the room.

So, what are the implications of this factor of human consciousness? (By the way, this is also the reason why most therapies to stop bad habits do not work - they attempt to operate against a "belief system" that is imprinted in the subconscious that this or that habit is essential to survival.)

One of the first things we might observe is that everyone has a different set of beliefs based upon their social and familial conditioning, and that these beliefs determine how much of the OBJECTIVE reality anyone is able to access.

In the above story, the objective reality IS WHAT IT IS, whether it is truly objective, or only a consensus reality. In this story, there is clearly a big part of that reality that is inaccessible to the subject due to a perception censor which was activated by the suggestions of the hypnotist. That is to say, the subject has a strong belief, based upon his CHOICE as to who or what to believe - the hypnotist or his own, unfettered observations of reality. In this case, he has chosen to believe the hypnotist and not what he might be able to observe if he dispensed with the perception censor put in place by the hypnotist who activated his "belief center" - even if that activation was fraudulent.

And so it is with nearly all human beings: we believe the hypnotist - the "official culture" - and we are able, with preternatural cunning, to deny what is often right in front of our faces. And in the case of the hypnosis subject, he is entirely at the mercy of the "Invisible Man" because he chooses not to see him.
The above experiment has been repeated numerous times and is reproduced here by Derren Brown:

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To me, what the "Third Man in the Room" demonstrates is that hypnosis is not necessarily an emotional response but, rather, a concatenation of small agreements which progressively, by small gradient steps, build one to turn from actual reality to a complete fantasy; whether those gradient steps are designed to bypass rational thinking or emotional beliefs and subsequent reactions.

If the gradient is too high, then it is rejected; if adequate and appropriate, it is integrated as a building block of the intended fantasy.

This gradient of small agreements can be seen as the "Mind Control," propaganda scheme played by the media, MSM or "alternative," through the "ideas" spread by such over the past century.

Cidersomerset

14th November 2013, 13:00

This is from an earlier thread.......

Default Re: Power of Hypnosis and Free Will

Just rewatched the Deren Brown ....Behind The Mischief......show try and watch if you can...

Derren is funny ,strange and excentric and a very exceptional Talent....

Mind control,hypnosis is Very,Very real...

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It seems all Derrens U/Tube clips have been disabled....

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/images/crests/ukpga.gif

Hypnotism Act 1952

1952 CHAPTER 46 15 and 16 Geo 6 and 1 Eliz 2

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6and1Eliz2/15-16/46

Ille you may not believe , but there is definately something to it imho....

http://merovee.wordpress.com/2011/10...-the-assassin/

It runs parrallel with mind control and MK Ultra...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39591-Power-of-Hypnosis-and-Free-Will

Flash

14th November 2013, 13:20

I have been studying hypnosis long time ago, the nlp approach. Milton Erikson ways. The teachers were all saying you can't make anyone do things that would go against their core values. Kiling is one of these core values usually, yet, people will go against it.

Then, I saw all kind of people taking hypnotism courses and then going on to " work with" people, using hypnotism, whithout any other check points. I have seen some of these people, pretty screwed up themselves, implanting ideas or memories in people who went to ask for help. It really p ssed me off. I decided not to used hypnotism myself in order not to put into someone anything that is not theirs, i do not want to be responsible for things they would not have thought or done themselves.

So i have a mental block against hypnotism (unless it is self hypnotism).:p A very careful screening of therapist has to be made before letting anyone playing with your mind. MOst of the time, my diagnosis is that the person in front of me is more psychologically unbalanced than I am. So no playing with my mind, even if it is a help offer, is accepted.

Cidersomerset

14th November 2013, 13:24

This validates Derrens experiment and prove Assassination by Hypnosis is
VERY REAL !!! imo.

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BRAINWASHED TO KILL SOMEONE HYPNOTIST TOM SILVER PROVES IT CAN BE DONE TV SHOW

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The idiot scientist at the end says this is only one experiment and in
Science that is not excepted as fact. Obviously he never saw the
Derren Brown show, or read about MK Ultra...IDIOT..LOL

Flash

14th November 2013, 13:26

the last video Cidersomerset is the one I was looking for, where at the end the "killer" is not even sure he has not killed unless he sees the victim.

Cidersomerset

14th November 2013, 13:31

the last video Cidersomerset is the one I was looking for, where at the end the "killer" is not even sure he has not killed unless he sees the victim.

Yeh and theres always a skeptic...LOL

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The idiot scientist at the end says this is only one experiment and in
Science that is not excepted as fact. Obviously he never saw the
Derren Brown show, or read about MK Ultra...IDIOT..LOL

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More Evidence of CIA Mind Control Assassins

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Published on 11 Dec 2012

A recent Discovery Channel documentary proved that individuals can be mind
controlled into carrying out murder, proving the so-called "conspiracy theory" that
it is possible to create brainwashed assassins.

The documentary, part of the Discovery Channel's Curiosity series, is particularly
relevantgiven the recent claim by an alleged inmate of 'Batman' shooter James
Holmes who contends that Holmes told him he was "programmed" to carry out the
Aurora theater massacre by an "evil" psychotherapist.

Entitled Brainwashed, the experiment was overseen by Harvard University's Dr.
Cynthia Meyersburg and Oxford University's Dr. Mark Stokes. Certified
hypnotherapist Tom Silver was called upon to hypnotize dozens of subjects to test
the depth of their hypnotic state and how suggestible they were.

After a series of tests, the sample size was eventually whittled down to four
participants, all of whom were hypnotized to withstand near freezing temperatures
in an ice bath. Only one of the subjects was able to stay in the ice bath for longer
than 18 seconds, and he was chosen as the final participant to be brainwashed into
carrying out an "assassination" he was hypnotized into believing was real.

36-year-old corrections officer 'Ivan' was told that he was no longer needed on the
show and was free to leave. However, during an exit interview, Tom Silver
hypnotized Ivan and ordered him to assassinate a foreign dignitary outside a hotel.
Ivan was then given a fake gun that had the same blast and recoil of a real firearm.

As Ivan was in the hotel lobby preparing to leave, he was given a trigger signal that
the hypnotist had created earlier as a command to carry out the assassination.

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Hervé

14th November 2013, 13:32

It becomes a matter of whether one seeks to empower oneself:

Something to take into consideration with regards to hypnosis:

Here are the words from a very old oral tradition echoed to the ears of an apprentice to the Gypsy tradition (Pierre Derlon, Voyage au delà du Mental):

“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.

“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.

"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."
How to do it without hypnosis and/or Carmody's kind of determination?

Here is a site one can start from.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/
[that was Truman Cash's old website. Check: MATRIX REVEALED -- Analysis & Solutions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions) for current on-goings]

Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.

Maunagarjana

14th November 2013, 13:39

the last video Cidersomerset is the one I was looking for, where at the end the "killer" is not even sure he has not killed unless he sees the victim.

The full thing is not on youtube that I can find. But I did link to sendspace where you can download the episode. I uploaded it there myself. And I linked to project free tv where you can stream it.

Snowflower

14th November 2013, 13:40

My pedophilic, psychologist father had advanced training in hypnotherapy. He used hypnosis against both my sister and me. It was very clear to both of us that we had received a post hypnotic suggestion when we began to remember the abuse the same month - in January of 1988. She is six years older than I am, so the suggestion had to have been tied to a year, not an age. Reading this thread, it has for the first time occurred to me that for the past 50 years (from age 15 when he died), my futile efforts to change my behavior away from harmful practices such as eating food bad for me to ensure I stay fat, was also an implanted suggestion. Hmm...now to figure out what to do about it.

Hervé

14th November 2013, 13:52

[...] Hmm...now to figure out what to do about it.

[...]

[that was Truman Cash's old website. Check: MATRIX REVEALED -- Analysis & Solutions (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?52786-MATRIX-REVEALED-Analysis-Solutions) for current on-goings]

Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.

Truman is using one of the only method I know of that is not using hypnotism in order to recover memories and discontinue the effects and affects of these memories in the "Here and Now."

Cidersomerset

14th November 2013, 13:53

It is a bit of an oxymoron isn't it? illegal to show an hypnotism show on tv for fear of hypnotising someone at home, while tv itself is an hypnotism too. May be it was competition they did not want.

This is why the web is under threat.....We know this, just be aware
of it and it lessons its effect.

CIA Agent "NEVER watch television"!!

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Published on 1 Jul 2012
Incredible thinker Alan Watt on the dangers of television "programming".

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Eram

14th November 2013, 14:13

Cidersomerset

14th November 2013, 14:33

Back to basics, Sceptics say its a fringe area....

The 'Harmless' form of hypnotherapy...

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Uploaded on 9 Jul 2010

http://www.thoughtsbecomereality.co.uk/ In this short video
Rakesh Kakaya Hypnotherapist and NLP Practitioner explains
what are Hypnotherapy or Hypnosis ? How Hypnotherapy
will help you. What it will help you with. A simple yet effective video

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Hypnosis for fun & entertainment....

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So I don't think its much of a leap for susceptible victim to
be used for more covert acts.

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Hervé

14th November 2013, 14:43

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Truman is using one of the only method I know of that is not using hypnotism in order to recover memories and discontinue the effects and affects of these memories in the "Here and Now."

Do you know where on those 8 pages he reveals his method Amzer Zo?
I have been trying to find it but failed so far.

I also read his first book and was anxious to find out about this method but never found it in that book.

Well... there!

I am going to throw my two cents in here in response to the previous posts by JustOneMan, Amzer Zo and others....

I had experience with Scientology back in the 1980s because of my prior interest in the past lives phenomenon. I read the Dianetics book and found out that I could use these techniques to remember past lives so I eventually took a course in it. I used the Dianetics techniques to recover not only past lives but eventually past abduction incidents as well. In the memory retrieval techniques document that I send to anyone who requests it, I specifically mentioned that I used the techniques from both DIANETICS, THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH (1950) and SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL (1951). In 1952 Mr. Hubbard released his book on past life implants called HISTORY OF MAN.

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TLC

:P

Delight

14th November 2013, 15:05

To me, what the "Third Man in the Room" demonstrates is that hypnosis is not necessarily an emotional response but, rather, a concatenation of small agreements which progressively, by small gradient steps, build one to turn from actual reality to a complete fantasy; whether those gradient steps are designed to bypass rational thinking or emotional beliefs and subsequent reactions.

If the gradient is too high, then it is rejected; if adequate and appropriate, it is integrated as a building block of the intended fantasy.

This gradient of small agreements can be seen as the "Mind Control," propaganda scheme played by the media, MSM or "alternative," through the "ideas" spread by such over the past century.

These articles and videos are chilling and grabbing my attention. Recently there has been a great deal of conversation different places concerning the role of our agreements in support of someone/something else which presents.

Freeman has been interviewed on Redice and Gnostic Warrior about these topics recently. Freeman has always said that he never met a human who was not warm, generous and behaved lovingly to him. He thinks that any other behavior is an implanted one for humans.

Freeman points out the way that the media presents hypnotic rituals like at the VMA awards. Miley Cyrus tongue is a Goddess presentation of KALI. The point is to outpicture the destruction of "our values" to us as an audience. The idea being that we are to accept the destruction represented. His explanation that we have to agree to being the recipient of the "demonic" even if we are fooled into the acceptance is right on IMO. Freeman actually believes that TV was created to spread bad vibes as energetic thought forms of the demonic.

Maybe if we start becoming very consciously understanding concerning the "steps" that lead to mind control, we can undo the mental agreements?

http://freemantv.com/miley-cyrus-invokes-kali-vma-2013/

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Cidersomerset

14th November 2013, 15:08

John Pilger Confirms Multiple RFK Shooters

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Uploaded on 5 Jun 2008

On Democracy Now!, June 6, 2008, John Pilger
talks about how he heard multiple shots during
the assassination of RFK, shots that continued
even after Sirhan Sirhan had been subdued.

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There is speculation that this may have been
a MK ultra influenced attack. Impossible to know
whether it was just a fan with an obsession to
Kill John that day, Or a more elaborate plant.
Chapman has reconciled to himself that he pre
planned it, but there is something in his voice
that makes you feel he is not 100% sure.

As we have seen it is also possible to plant
selective memories into the perpetrator,
of a crime even a serious one like murder.

Mark Chapmans account of what happened.

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Uploaded on 17 Jan 2012

The Larry King interview with Mark David Chapman, 17 dec 1992.

chocolate

14th November 2013, 15:53

Snowflower if you don't find a way to break free of what has been done to you, I would suggest making an attempt to connect to your higher self, sorry for the banality of the expression, but that is the most innocent wording I can think of. And connect with the intent to ask for assistance. Don't expect a very clear answer, but trust the way. Sometimes life works in the most mysterious of ways, and anything is possible. But you need to stay in a state where you allow the information to reach you and you follow your intuitive knowing.

I know for a fact during my childhood I was helped to break free of some mind programming done in previous life time, I am guessing since when it happened this time around I was 5-6 years old.
When I look back now I see all the connections, while at the time everything was a bit strange and I was just too young to recognize what is happening. But I do remember a lot of the important stuff.
Later on I was helped again in another way, otherwise I would be dead by now. Those are facts, I am not making it up. I won't go into details, but I will encourage you to try on your own. If you don't manage, than probably you can seek for some help from the outside world. We are pretty strong, so I am almost sure you will succeed.

There are ways to do a self hypnosis. There are books and audio recordings that can help you. I have bought one book with an audio disk, but I never tried the system, I found other ways to heal my wounds.

ghostrider

15th November 2013, 03:02

ever get in to a movie at home , and someone asks you a question , and you go hmmm what sorry I was tuned in to that part of the movie , this is a sample of mind control , you can be in a trance yet not very deep but still a trance where you tune out the world around you ... it is my theory everyone is under some form of mind control un-aware ...