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northstar
14th November 2013, 15:37
It is about time that we the people of the world do something about the terrifying peril posed by the broken Fukushima nuclear plant.

When Chernobyl had a meltdown the Russians moved heaven and earth to contain the damage. They did what needed to be done, swiftly and at a considerable cost.

By all accounts the company in charge of the Fukushima plant is continuing to criminally mismanage the Fukushima crisis. The plant is one simple tidal wave away from triggering what could possibly lead to an extinction level event for humanity.

The major media in the developed world has been either grossly negligent or perhaps they have been paid to keep silent about this deadly situation.

It is time for all of us, we the people of the world, to take action. Let's use the incredible power we have at our disposal to raise our voices loud and clear that we demand action now.


Demand that major media start reporting on this.
Demand that your elected representatives take action.
Demand that TEPCO, criminally negligent company in charge of Fukushima, be replaced by an organization that is able to handle this crisis.
Demand that the Japanese government act, swiftly and decisively, the handle the shut down of Fukushima.



Is anyone else out there worried about Fukushima, or maybe even pissed off a bit? Is anyone else out there fed up with the utter non-action of government officials and the complete silence of major media?

Since the people who are supposed to be in leadership positions are not doing what needs to be done it is up to us, the people of the world, to DEMAND that Fukushima be cleaned up and made safe immediately. After all, the survival of humanity is at stake.

What to do:

1. Sign this MoveOne petition!
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-tepco-before-you
And after you sign the petition, upload it to Facebook and Twitter and send it to your email contacts so they can sign it too.

2. Send an e-mail or tweet to your elected representatives and ask them why nothing is being done about Fukushima.

3. Send an email, tweet or Facebook post to all major media in your country demanding effective coverage of this crisis. If we speak as one our voice will be ignored but when we speak as a human family we ROAR, my friends! And if there was ever a time to come together and roar, it is now!

4. Read and inform yourself!

This writer is living in Hong Kong. He is extremely well informed about Fukushima as well as the astoundingly negligent response to the crisis. https://twitter.com/michaelallenmar
If you are on Twitter, follow him and RT his tweets far and wide.

Extinction Roulette: Fukushima
http://dirtytrainers.org/extinction-roulette-fukushima-by-michael-allen-martin-hong-kong/

"Rods have radiation equivalent of 14,000 Hiroshima bombs FUKUSHIMA http://dirtytrainers.org/fukushima-world-the-death-of-us/

What action are you taking today to force media and governments to take Fukushima seroiusly?

Crystine
14th November 2013, 16:08
There are thousands wondering the same things you are. I for one don't know what can be done. If the major media ignores this issue.....then what? I have a friend that lives in Seattle. He tells me that the algae that normally grows on the rocky seashore, is gone. Also no sea gulls. Or at least, far fewer than there should be. When the issue is so formidable the only thing to do, is one foot in front of the other. Until you get someplace. A petition is a good place to start.

Jake
14th November 2013, 16:12
Chief Arvol Looking Horse, of the Sioux Nation has taken a lead with addressing humanity with regards the Fukashima disaster. Perhaps we should swap political leadership in America with Native American Spiritual leaders within the Indian Nations. Just for a day,, and see what happens.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65048-Protect-Indigenous-Americans-The-Auction-of-Sacred-land--Wounded-Knee--and-more...&p=757521&viewfull=1#post757521

lets getrdun...
jake

778 neighbour of some guy
14th November 2013, 16:33
What action are you taking today to force media and governments to take Fukushima seroiusly?

Well, what action are governments and the media taking to tell us the TRUTH about radiation would be my question, don't you think it is awfully odd that if indeed the WHOLE world was in such big friggin danger, the whole world isn't assisting in containing it? Let me tell you this, if my neighbor his house was on fire and that would thereby endanger my life and this neighbor did not take action to put the fire out, I would punch the mofo out cold, enter his house and put it out myself and would not give a sh!t about his free will, sovereignty, privacy or whatever, if you directly threaten my life, I want to correct that, so in case of Phukyoushima something very very odd is taking place, this leads me to believe we are not being told the whole truth about the dangers of radiation, so there you go, Fukushima is being presented to us as an ELE monster, but is it?

BTW the wildlife around Chernobyl is doing great and didn't grow extra limbs, eyes or sphincters, plants and trees are doing awesome too.

northstar
14th November 2013, 17:21
Thanks 778 neighnbor. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Since you don't think Fukushima presents a threat, then I respectfully suggest that you take a nice long vacation near Fukushima with your kids or loved ones. Eat the local food, drink the local water, and breathe the nice, "clean" air.

And while you're doing that, the rest of us will be moving mountains to keep sentient life on this planet safe.

Peace.

Kristin
14th November 2013, 17:48
Well, what action are governments and the media taking to tell us the TRUTH about radiation would be my question, don't you think it is awfully odd that if indeed the WHOLE world was in such big friggin danger, the whole world isn't assisting in containing it?

Yes, it has always been odd. This is exactly why things are as they are, compliant complicit people. Sheep. It is not that there is no danger. You can not see it, taste it, feel it, smell it, nor touch it. It is radiation. It actually exists and some form of it keeps you alive every day through our sun's rays.

You live in a world 778 where your neighbors will not run outside when they hear you screaming. You live in a world where your abuse will be recorded on cell phone, yet no one will lift a finger to protect you. You live in a world where the media will report sunshine while it's raining and it takes weeks for people to be reached with aid after a disaster. Until we see the world as it really is and take responsibility for our actions as North Star suggests, this will be the world in which you die in. It is your choice.

That means picking up your neighbor when he is beaten to the ground, screaming that it's raining outside when the weather man says its sunny, and that also means believing in radiation; a scientifically proven fact.

From the Heart,
Kristin

doodah
14th November 2013, 18:02
778, didn't you see any of the photos of the deformed babies born in Iraq thanks to our use of "depleted" (nothing depleted about the radiation) uranium projectiles? Where we made bullets out of our nuclear waste and shot it at the Iraqi people? Where the radioactive dust produced by that has left its imprint on the DNA of all the people there, and also on our own soldiers? You never heard any of those stories? The devil is obviously in charge of our military, that WE, with our good old American tax dollars -- but without our consent -- would make such nasty and evil things.

You never heard about how we moved TONS of sand from Kuwait to Idaho after Desert Storm because it was radioactive and they didn't want it there? So we brought it here?

I agree with northstar, have a nice vacation near Fukushima. Send postcards.

Dorjezigzag
14th November 2013, 18:19
What action are you taking today to force media and governments to take Fukushima seroiusly?

Well, what action are governments and the media taking to tell us the TRUTH about radiation would be my question, don't you think it is awfully odd that if indeed the WHOLE world was in such big friggin danger, the whole world isn't assisting in containing it? Let me tell you this, if my neighbor his house was on fire and that would thereby endanger my life and this neighbor did not take action to put the fire out, I would punch the mofo out cold, enter his house and put it out myself and would not give a sh!t about his free will, sovereignty, privacy or whatever, if you directly threaten my life, I want to correct that, so in case of Phukyoushima something very very odd is taking place, this leads me to believe we are not being told the whole truth about the dangers of radiation, so there you go, Fukushima is being presented to us as an ELE monster, but is it?

BTW the wildlife around Chernobyl is doing great and didn't grow extra limbs, eyes or sphincters, plants and trees are doing awesome too.

Apparently these pictures represent defects attributed to Chernobyl,

http://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Chernobyl-mutations.jpg


http://www.transcend.org/tms/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Koodankulams-future-225x300.jpg

http://www.jinnwe.com/media/pictures/414.jpg

But I have heard that although there have been some mutations a lot of nature seems to be thriving in that area, probably because all the people have moved out. I have heard so many different perspectives all backed with apparent scientific evidence it is difficult to properly asses the situation.

Personally i believe if it has just created one of those deformities, nuclear power, in its current form is not worth it.

northstar
14th November 2013, 18:44
I think there have been a number of threads on whether or not nuclear energy is dangerous to humans. I know there are people on this forum who believe that exposure to nuclear energy it is perfectly safe for humans. I am not one of them.

Every single small thing that each of us can do to force world "leaders" and media and political representative and leaders in Japan to act will make a BIG difference.

Send an email, a tweet, a letter, a facebook comment.
Read and get informed about the criminal indifference of the world media and world leaders to this terrifying crisis.
Take ACTION.
Individually, we are small and weak but together we will send up a mighty ROAR!

What are YOU doing today to make significant change with regards to Fukushima?

778 neighbour of some guy
14th November 2013, 20:36
Since you don't think Fukushima presents a threat, then I respectfully suggest that you take a nice long vacation near Fukushima with your kids or loved ones.

Hm, Nowhere did I say radiation did not was/is a threat, interesting how a single sentence can stir up this much commotion, bombarded with pictures of the things that did go wrong makes sense, I see what why it it is done and wont deny radiation can be a dangerous thing, I still think it is very odd dudes in flimsy rubber coveralls walk around on what is apparently the most dangerous site on earth and what is even stranger is the lack of international effort to quell this issue, I think we can all agree this is at least somewhat strange isn't it, so there is the question, why isn't it been taken care off as it should be, is there something else going on here?


You live in a world 778 where your neighbors will not run outside when they hear you screaming. You live in a world where your abuse will be recorded on cell phone, yet no one will lift a finger to protect you. You live in a world where the media will report sunshine while it's raining and it takes weeks for people to be reached with aid after a disaster. Until we see the world as it really is and take responsibility for our actions as North Star suggests, this will be the world in which you die in. It is your choice.

I assume you mean WE and US here in general, please do mention where and by whom this technology was implemented as well, I believe the US dollar is the currency of that particular part of the world. As for my actions, I work in healthcare and pulling my end of the line, as a matter of fact I pulled my weight ( and that of others so hard I am now at home with a burnout). So, I guess I don't leave you dying on the streets, working with homeless veterans, junkies, automutilating psychiatric patients, troubled youth and ptsd asylum seekers dont count I guess then eh, I made some really good choices, sleep well too and guess what, theres millions of people just like me.


radiation; a scientifically proven fact.

Proven with the intend to scare and deter by the people who gave you the atomic bomb in the cold war who had a definite stake in making this look, sound and appear to be as dangerous and deadly as possible to make the other party look awful, proven by people who had/have a stake in stretching the burning of fossil fuels for as long as possible by discrediting ALL alternatives as dangerous or inadequate or irrelevant, please explain why former Greenpeace and other former 'greens' changed their minds and switched sides, perhaps something they found out about radiation and nuclear technologies that was/is not being shared with the larger public? I am pretty sure not everyone is for sale so what is going on here.



I agree with northstar, have a nice vacation near Fukushima. Send postcards.

Odd, I didn't advice anyone to take a vacation there, so that one was not appreciated, but ok I'll accept I was a naughty boy by making that post, touche.

Still wildlife and nature seems to have sprung back to life very very fast without to much trouble in Chernobyl, those images of those children and people look terrible, and if ALL or even ONE is attributed to radiation exposure that is pretty horrific and something should be done about it, yet, at the medical University in Nijmegen Holland, there are many very similar looking deformities in the museum that are at least a hundred years old that look like that ( been there and for more then just one occasion) just saying. Saw the same in orphanages in Romania and Sri Lanka as well as a matter of fact and not a nuclear disaster in sight, it seemed to produce similar results and deformities.


I know there are people on this forum who believe that exposure to nuclear energy it is perfectly safe for humans. I am not one of them.

NONE of them are saying radiation is perfectly safe, neither am I for that matter, funny how the slightest sound of dissonance can be interpreted as absolute agreement or disagreement with issues/matters discussed.

Sierra
14th November 2013, 20:58
778, I have no idea what your opinion is, you seem to be saying both and neither.

We've received two reports of your rudeness on this thread (make that three now).

When I go back to read your original post, you seem to drag the subject over to the mainstream media's coverage of the Fukushima disaster.

Most of us are already pretty clear that MSM doesn't say anything useful or truthful, and therefore a little grassroots groundswell is the next step.

That is what this thread is about. Next steps. If you have nothing to contribute on the thread subject, please start another thread on the topic of your choice.

:focus:

Sierra

northstar
15th November 2013, 00:08
I am super happy to see that the number of people who have signed the Moveon Petition to "Remove Tepco Before You Remove That Fuel" has grown by 1000 in the last few hours. http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-tepco-before-you

TOGETHER, WE ARE POWERFUL MY FRIENDS!

Don't ever believe that you are small and weak and you can't make a difference because it simply isn't true.

Simply signing this petition (it's easy!) and urging others to do the same will snowball into something brilliant and amazing. Take action now and be part of it.

Sierra
15th November 2013, 00:11
NorthStar,

I am on the email lists of a LOT of sites for petitions, and they do really work. :)

I spend twenty minutes or so every morning adding my .02 to various petitions.

Sierra

Jake
15th November 2013, 00:38
I am super happy to see that the number of people who have signed the Moveon Petition to "Remove Tepco Before You Remove That Fuel" has grown by 1000 in the last few hours. http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-tepco-before-you

TOGETHER, WE ARE POWERFUL MY FRIENDS!

Don't ever believe that you are small and weak and you can't make a difference because it simply isn't true.

Simply signing this petition (it's easy!) and urging others to do the same will snowball into something brilliant and amazing. Take action now and be part of it.

Cannot thank this enough. !! :) Very powerful!! It reminds me of a scene in 'Rise of the Planet of the Apes' (2011 Movie w/jamesfranko..) One stick can break easily,,, a bundle of sticks,,,, not so much!!! Together we ARE powerful... Thank you.!!

Jake.

Calz
15th November 2013, 01:42
Well ... sidestepping the damage or lack thereof from nuclear radiation for the moment ... there are at least two sources who claim there is technology *today* ... as in here and now ... that could be brought into play if only the scum that be would allow it.

Our own Carmody suggests "Browns Gas" is one.

Clif High in a recent wujo suggests he knows of another (he just released a new wujo that talks about radiation and I have not yet listened to that one).


http://halfpasthuman.com/audio/wujo/clifswujo10232013radsspin.mp3


So ... get-r-done is *not* out of the realm of possibilities and *is* within reach.


Thanks for the thread http://www.pic4ever.com/images/47b20s0.gif

panopticon
15th November 2013, 02:23
I still think it is very odd dudes in flimsy rubber coveralls walk around on what is apparently the most dangerous site on earth


G'day 778,

I don't want to derail this thread (sorry to Northstar) however I can clear that question up for you.

The overalls and respirators are used to keep alpha and beta emitting radio-isotopes from being ingested/inhaled by the workers.

Alpha emitting radio-isotopes can be stopped by a piece of paper and cause minimal mutagentic damage unless ingested/inhaled.

Beta emitting radio-isotopes can be stopped by the epidermal layer and cause little damage unless ingested/inhaled.

Gamma radiation is the only deep penetrating radiation and there is evidence that prolonged exposure can lead to mutagenic damage to cell structure and DNA. This is the reason that workers at Fukushima can only be submitted to certain levels of radiation over a year. Some evidence points to the level being quite low (20 mSv per year) so using the precautionary principle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle) this is the usual amount permitted per annum (20 mSv per year averaged over 5 years with a maximum dose permitted of 50 mSv in any one year). In emergency situations this is raised to 100 mSv for short term work and in high-risk situations (eg Fukushima) out to 500 mSv. There is also evidence that the 20 mSv level is very low, however using the precautionary principle it was adopted so as to minimise the potential of damage (also it minimises the risk to business of lengthy and expensive court cases).

It is a common mistake to say radiation is either good or bad.

In fact it is no where near that simple and while there is ample evidence to support that low level radiation can be used for hormesis purposes there is also ample evidence that damage from low level ingestion/inhalation of high alpha/beta emitters do have detrimental (or fatal) health effects.

As an example of the latter category I would suggest you investigate the radio-isotope Polonium-210. It is an extremely high alpha emitter and this is what causes its toxicity. Less than a grain of pepper would kill a person who has ingested it and leads to multiple organ failure and, if the patient survives long enough, leukaemia. As another example, the Iodine isotope Iodine-131 is a beta emitter and this is what leads to mutations in thyroids leading to thyroid cancer (as see in the surrounds of Chernobyl following its accident).

For information on the benefits of low level radiation hormesis I would suggest Dawn's thread at Avalon about it or visit dose-response.com (http://www.dose-response.com/) (journal articles here (http://dose-response.metapress.com/app/home/main.asp)).

Hope that clears up your question.

Now...
:focus:
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

ghostrider
15th November 2013, 02:55
I looked on the meier site about fukushima , he asked the ET ptaah about this , ptaah stated this is already the ultra worst case scenerio , the radiation will reach England , and the oceans are contaminated ( anyone noticed mass dead fish anywhere ???) and the air is contaminated ( anyone notice birds falling out of the sky ) ...

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Three reactors were a complete meltdown ... it is worse than than anyone knows ...

psydney
15th November 2013, 11:07
here's some recent coverage of the situation ...

http://www.natureknows.org/2013/11/this-11-minute-video-shows-us.html

Milneman
15th November 2013, 11:35
I looked on the meier site about fukushima , he asked the ET ptaah about this , ptaah stated this is already the ultra worst case scenerio , the radiation will reach England , and the oceans are contaminated ( anyone noticed mass dead fish anywhere ???) and the air is contaminated ( anyone notice birds falling out of the sky ) ...

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Three reactors were a complete meltdown ... it is worse than than anyone knows ...

Think about this.

A year or two after the quake, stuff started washing up on the British Columbia coast. One guys motor bike is being restored and returned. I wonder if they can do that with depleted uranium....

halffull
15th November 2013, 12:53
It just seems to be getting worse

I am sending love and light to the people in Japan


http://enenews.com/nhk-holes-found-near-bottom-of-reactor-no-1-containment-vessel-at-fukushima-plant-leak-is-gushing-out-similar-damage-suspected-at-units-2-and-3-video

SKIBADABOMSKI
15th November 2013, 14:02
The Emperor of Japan

The most high ranking royal on the planet. Maybe the most high ranking visible power horses alive resides in Tokyo.

No deaths yet !! but I'm sure if Japan was like some parts of the world there'd be fake deformed children being posted on the net. Crazed stories and seriously chilling and graphic images of desperation.

Everything is fine and Japan is in good hands. It's a wonderful country and you should visit sometime. Bring the kids and have some excellent traditional Japanese food.

If the above scares you and you wouldn't come if you was invited then I reckon that it is not Japan that has the problem. It's you.

northstar
15th November 2013, 15:25
The Emperor of Japan

The most high ranking royal on the planet. Maybe the most high ranking visible power horses alive resides in Tokyo.

No deaths yet !! but I'm sure if Japan was like some parts of the world there'd be fake deformed children being posted on the net. Crazed stories and seriously chilling and graphic images of desperation.

Everything is fine and Japan is in good hands. It's a wonderful country and you should visit sometime. Bring the kids and have some excellent traditional Japanese food.

If the above scares you and you wouldn't come if you was invited then I reckon that it is not Japan that has the problem. It's you.

SKIBADABOMSKI the purpose of this thread is not to malign the country or the people of Japan. And saying that the Emperor of Japan lives in Tokyo and he is fine, therefore "Everything is fine and Japan is in good hands" is a red herring and a logical fallacy.

The intent of this thread is to bring attention to the gross and negligent mismanagement of a nuclear disaster in Fukushima and the potential that has to impact all of humanity.

When the Russians had their nuclear disaster at Chernobyl, they "got 'er done". The Russians did not sit quietly in a calm state of delusion and say "everything is fine". They went to considerable expense to quickly contain the mess and minimize the damage as much as possible.

THIS IS NOT HAPPENING WITH FUKUSHIMA! And now is the time for the international community to put pressure on the media to start reporting on this, and for the leadership in Japan to start taking effective action to stabilize the Fukushima site before another tidal wave or earthquake triggers an extinction level event for all humanity.

Please visit and sign:

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/the-world-community-must

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/remove-tepco-before-you

http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/mobilize-the-un-security

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Sorry for the intrusion. As you were soldier.

northstar
15th November 2013, 18:16
I don't have all the facts on Fukushima and I don't claim to be an expert on nuclear energy but I do know that many, many experts are saying that Fukushima is not being cleaned up properly and because of that, the site presents a terrifying threat to humanity.

I do know that the last terrible nuclear accident, at Chernobyl in Russia, was properly contained but this one is NOT being handled properly.

I do know that if even a very small amount of people started demanding that action be taken on Fukushima, then it would be a "done deal".

WE ARE THOSE PEOPLE! IT IS UP TO US TO DEMAND THAT ACTION BE TAKEN TO CLEAN UP THE SITE AND MAKE IT SAFE. Immediately, before the next tidal wave or earthquake hits.

Title of video: Warning - Fukashima BREACH - North Hemisphere - stay indoors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftK6zwtiXg

Calz
16th November 2013, 09:17
Sorry ... couldn't resist.

Hey. If you are going to bump something you might as well make it interesting?


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Yga2R72x6p0/Ue96iOZQEPI/AAAAAAAAPlg/ZwxrXV4nOak/w506-h750/p.jpg

Bob
16th November 2013, 23:44
http://meditationforfukushima.com/Resources/meditationheader.jpeg

URL: http://meditationforfukushima.com/

has useful data,

news Link: http://meditationforfukushima.com/latestnews.html

"14,000 Hiroshimas still hang in the Fukushima air.... Japan's pro-nuclear Prime Minister has finally asked for global help at Fukushima. It probably hasn't hurt that more than 100,000 people have signed petitions calling for a global takeover; more than 8,000 have viewed a new YouTube on it.

"Massive quantities of heavily contaminated water are pouring into the Pacific Ocean, dousing workers along the way. Hundreds of huge, flimsy tanks are leaking untold tons of highly radioactive fluids. At Unit #4, more than 1300 fuel rods, with more than 400 tons of extremely radioactive material, containing potential cesium fallout comparable to 14,000 Hiroshima bombs, are stranded 100 feet in the air

"All this more than 30 months after the 3/11/2011 earthquake/tsunami led to three melt-downs and at least four explosions. 'Our country needs your knowledge and expertise' he has said to the world community. 'We are wide open to receive the most advanced knowledge from overseas to contain the problem'. "

Petition link: http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/the-world-community-must

MEDITATION PAGE - http://meditationforfukushima.com/meditation.html

Children of the Sun Meditations link: http://childrenofthesun.org/fukushima-transmissions/

http://childrenofthesun.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/slide3.png

Bob
17th November 2013, 00:08
Fukushima Disaster gaining world notoriety

ref: http://enenews.com/former-leader-of-japan-fukushima-disaster-is-most-severe-accident-in-the-history-of-mankind-not-hard-to-stop-future-accidents-all-we-need-to-do-is-to-eliminate-nuclear-power-plants

"Former Prime Minister of Japan Naoto Kan, Oct. 28, 2013: The accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant was the most severe accident in the history of mankind. [...] I had pushed the policy of utilizing nuclear power [...] my view is now changed 180 degrees. [...] there are no other events except for wars that would require the evacuation of tens of millions of people."

That to me sounds like it is not some safe place to "bring my family" to visit.

ref: http://enenews.com/nuclear-regulator-the-whole-situation-remains-precarious-at-fukushima-daiichi-of-course-theres-no-denying-it

"Nuclear Regulator: The whole situation remains precarious at Fukushima Daiichi of course — There’s no denying it" - "there is no denying that the whole situation remains precarious of course,” said Kenzo Oshima, a commissioner at Japan’s Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA)."


ref: from Scientific American - "Kan commissioned a report for the worst-case scenario from the Japan Atomic Energy Commission, which confirmed his worst fears: a potential evacuation area reaching as far as 250 kilometers from the stricken power plant—a zone of exclusion that would have reached all the way to Tokyo and affected roughly 50 million people." http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nuclear-power-odyssey-of-naoto-kan-former-japan-prime-minister-during-fukushima (Prime Minister Naoto Kan)

"Many Fukushima residents have been barred from their homes, perhaps permanently, and the disaster has hurt the entire economy of Japan. "There is nothing more challenging than to look into the eyes of a grandfather who no longer sees his children because they had to move on to find jobs," Jaczko told the audience, referring to a man he met during a visit to Japan in 2011. "That is the tragedy and human toll that the Fukushima disaster has enacted on nearly 100,000 people in Japan. You cannot put those impacts in dollar terms, but they are very real." - Gregory Jaczko, who chaired the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission during the disaster and until July 2012.

ref: Reuters - 4 days ago - "TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan's government is finalizing plans to borrow an additional 3 trillion yen ($30 billion) to pay for compensating Fukushima evacuees and cleaning up the area outside the wrecked nuclear plant, said people with knowledge of the situation."

Instead of cleaning up, the new tactic according to Reuters is: "Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has been considering a change of approach to the Fukushima clean-up. Lawmakers from his coalition this week urged that the government step back from the most ambitious goals for reducing radiation through a public-works style clean-up and begin paying new compensation to residents who have no prospect of returning home." - is that some sort of bribe? - ref: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/thomson-reuters/131112/japan-readies-additional-30-billion-fukushima-clean-sources

northstar
17th November 2013, 13:15
Fukushima Disaster gaining world notoriety

ref: http://enenews.com/former-leader-of-japan-fukushima-disaster-is-most-severe-accident-in-the-history-of-mankind-not-hard-to-stop-future-accidents-all-we-need-to-do-is-to-eliminate-nuclear-power-plants

"Former Prime Minister of Japan Naoto Kan, Oct. 28, 2013: The accident at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant was the most severe accident in the history of mankind. [...] I had pushed the policy of utilizing nuclear power [...] my view is now changed 180 degrees. [...] there are no other events except for wars that would require the evacuation of tens of millions of people."

That to me sounds like it is not some safe place to "bring my family" to visit.

ref: http://enenews.com/nuclear-regulator-the-whole-situation-remains-precarious-at-fukushima-daiichi-of-course-theres-no-denying-it

"Nuclear Regulator: The whole situation remains precarious at Fukushima Daiichi of course — There’s no denying it" - "there is no denying that the whole situation remains precarious of course,” said Kenzo Oshima, a commissioner at Japan’s Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA)."




Two excellent and well researched posts Bob! Thanks!!

Since Japan seems to be unable to get its house in order with regards to this sorry and ongoing nuclear disaster, at this point the world community needs to start applying considerable pressure to ensure Fukushima is properly cleaned up and closed down.

And when I say "world community", I don't mean the politicians and their corporate masters. I mean us! We the people have far, far more power than "them". We outnumber them!


We must demand action on Fukushima from our elected representatives.

We must demand that the powerful nuclear industry be controlled immediately.

We must demand that the corporate controlled mainstream media start reporting on this crisis properly.

"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."
~Frederick Douglass

doodah
17th November 2013, 21:23
Northstar, I have written my congressional representatives, and I have gotten non-answers in return, along the lines of "Move along, little lady, nothing you need to be concerned about." But maybe I was just a small voice crying in the wind; maybe hundreds of thousands of petitions will make a bigger dent. I join my intent with yours that the world not let this disaster become even worse.

I've asked why the US is not decommissioning the 140 reactors we have, with about 17 of them sitting on the New Madrid faultline ("No, little lady, there will never be an earthquake here.")

I've asked why, after Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, San Onofre, Fukushima, and the known leakages from almost every facility, the US is currently planning to build two new reactors. I've asked why they keep building reactors when they've KNOWN from the git-go that there is no way on this planet to get rid of radioactive waste. I've asked them if they are aware that radioactive snow falls downwind from some of the reactors?

I've asked what they were thinking... that they would build these stationary atomic bombs all over this country, and have them hooked up to power grids controlled by such Ridiculously Insecure and Fragile Systems as COMPUTERS. And gasoline generators if the power goes out?!! HOLY MOLY. It would be laughable if it weren't so potentially disastrous.

It gets more and more bizarre, as more and more of everything gets computerized and becomes "so fast and so convenient," but also more unstable. The whole cyber issue is now in some kind of competitive spiral to ever greater instability. But they keep on doing it. WHY? This question is beyond the scope of this thread and all of these questions seem to be beyond the scope of US Senators and Congresspersons. Or they were the last time I asked.

The answers I get from my congressional representatives are not at all encouraging. The answers I get do not indicate any knowledge of the question. But maybe this can change. I hope so.

Bob
17th November 2013, 21:30
Northstar, I have written my congressional representatives, and I have gotten non-answers in return, along the lines of "Move along, little lady, nothing you need to be concerned about." But maybe I was just a small voice crying in the wind; maybe hundreds of thousands of petitions will make a bigger dent. I join my intent with yours that the world not let this disaster become even worse.

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I wonder if these people, the key people in the various countries which ARE being affected by the radiation leaks, in the air, in the food, in the water... received the petitions.. If there have been over 100,000 people signing petitions, isn't there some legislation that says the petitions must be heard, discussed, debated or acted on?

Where are the places that the organizers of the Petitions can send these Petitions to? How can we receive notification that such has been heard? Acted on or NOT?

Isn't that about establishing communications and good use of group and mass dialog?

SO WHO are the Petitions going to?

What is the timetable?

northstar
18th November 2013, 12:47
Northstar, I have written my congressional representatives, and I have gotten non-answers in return, along the lines of "Move along, little lady, nothing you need to be concerned about." But maybe I was just a small voice crying in the wind; maybe hundreds of thousands of petitions will make a bigger dent. I join my intent with yours that the world not let this disaster become even worse.

I've asked why the US is not decommissioning the 140 reactors we have, with about 17 of them sitting on the New Madrid faultline ("No, little lady, there will never be an earthquake here.")

I've asked why, after Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, San Onofre, Fukushima, and the known leakages from almost every facility, the US is currently planning to build two new reactors. I've asked why they keep building reactors when they've KNOWN from the git-go that there is no way on this planet to get rid of radioactive waste. I've asked them if they are aware that radioactive snow falls downwind from some of the reactors?


Thank you so much for taking action, and giving an inspiring example to others how to take action!

Those are intelligent questions Doodah, and a very accurate assessment of the level of knowledge of most elected political representatives, and you are correct that the problem is wider than just Fukushima. The nuclear lobby is incredibly powerful and many politicians are beholden to them and their campaign donations.

Yes, it may seem like you are just one person, and one voice. But here is my vision- one person alone becomes 2, and 2 become 4 and 4 become 16 and 16 become 256 and 65,536 and so soon we are a powerful lobby of voices. And when we come together, we cannot be sent away with paternalistic and uniformed brush-offs from people in power.

And that is when positive change will occur!



"Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will."
~Frederick Douglass

northstar
1st December 2013, 19:38
TEPCO Downplays Huge Risks Involved in Removing Fukushima Fuel Rods


http://www.truth-out.org/video/item/20354-tepco-downplays-huge-risks-involved-in-removing-fukushima-fuel-rods



TRANSCRIPT:

JESSICA DESVARIEUX, TRNN PRODUCER: Welcome to The Real News Network. I'm Jessica Desvarieux in Baltimore.

On Monday, November 18, Tokyo Electric began the long-delayed process of removing spent fuel rods from the damaged Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant, this process beginning what is said to be a possible decades-long procedure.

With us to discuss the high-stakes operation going on there is Arnie Gunderson. He has over 40 years of experience working in nuclear power engineering, and he was a licensed reactor operator and is a former nuclear industry senior vice president.

Thanks for joining us, Arnie.

ARNIE GUNDERSON, CHIEF ENGINEER, FAIREWINDS: Hi. Thanks for having me.

DESVARIEUX: So, Arnie, you recently released a video explaining how an animated video from Tokyo Electric Power Company misrepresented the highly dangerous and difficult cleanup task ahead of them. At the end of last week, Tokyo Electric reported that they successfully removed nuclear fuel rods from reactor 4. Is this a good sign? Or do you feel like they are overplaying this a bit?

GUNDERSON: I think they've overplayed the video, certainly. You know, it seemed like one of these product promotions from the 1950s where we have to trust Tokyo Electric. These are the same people that let rats eat the wires on their cooling pumps and are releasing huge amounts of radiation into the Pacific. And now we're supposed to trust them on something that's more complex and potentially more dangerous. So it's--I think, had--the work needs to be done. There's no doubt that the fuel has to come out of there. But I just have no faith that Tokyo Electric has the competence and the capacity to do it right....