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sigma6

15th November 2013, 03:29

Toronto has now become a national household name (or should be soon) as the biggest buffoon in history exposes his alcoholism, "drunken stupors", cocaine snorting, and now his comments on his sexual mores and offering prostitutes jobs... Apparently there is still "controversy" in Toronto regarding this clown. Which just shows how far the city as a whole has degraded if they can't see a compulsive sociopath if he slapped them in the face. A sure sign of the times... He has hired staff at double salaries, scuttled the city's decade long plan to extend their fledgling subway system. Claiming to have saved the city a billion dollars. (all the more gravy for him and his cronies...) This has to be seen to be believed...

http://bcove.me/njezc6ez

Taurean

15th November 2013, 03:44

The media's having a field day with this guy, but just as the media fails to report real news they are still experts at discrediting and demonising.

You have to wonder what the real agenda is here.

sandy

15th November 2013, 03:47

Very vulgar person IMHO, lacking any couth at all :(

Shane

15th November 2013, 04:05

Our mayor did what? Kidding.

If you watch the news on this, while living in this city, it will be a good example of how much "news" has degraded. If you listen to others talk about this "news", you will quickly see that people still tend to buy too much of what is reported without actual thought. (especially when it comes to the second hand opinions repeated by several who listen to those opinions given on the "news") This has literally been "in the news" for almost a year, but is NOW widely talked about. I have had people unaware or unwilling to look at any "conspiracies" say things like - "I wonder who Ford pissed off that this video actually went public to this extent ?". It is THAT obvious.

There are some press conferences, which appear much much different on TV, than they did for those people present.

"..and even the elect will appear insane.."

Hopefully the people of this city will start to understand how much of a staged show politics really are knowing that this guy is remaining in office despite it all.. "You mean the people can't all go to city hall and demand this guy is ejected?"... Yeah sure, give that a try. Will be fun to watch.

Also.. Don't forget.. This might be your city's "pride" one day too ;)

Carmody

15th November 2013, 04:49

It does happen.

Marion Barry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Barry)

from the link:

Despite his history of political and legal controversies, Barry remains a popular and influential figure in the local political scene of Washington, D.C. The alternative weekly Washington City Paper nicknamed him "Mayor for life," a designation that remained long after Barry left the mayoralty.[3] The Washington Post has stated that "to understand the District of Columbia, one must understand Marion Barry."[4]

THEN, one must understand the idea of the "North American Union'.

THEN, one must understand the desires of the Rothschild clan and whatnot, to make Toronto THE capital of the new "North American Union', and also be it's financial capital.

Rob Ford is an illiterate pig and truly a low level thug, but he is THEIR thug, and THEIR pig. I'm expecting him to be the man for the 'other guys' by the sounds of it - the "Carlyle/PNAC/Bush/Oil/War/Alberta/CFR/Etc" party.

The newspapers are reporting on him in fairly staunch fashion as most are of 'Canadian' (read:euro/Rothschild) origin and ownership.

Shane

15th November 2013, 05:03

Rob Ford is an illiterate pig and truly a low level thug, but he is THEIR thug, and THEIR pig. I'm expecting him to be the man for the 'other guys' by the sounds of it - the "Carlyle/PNAC/Bush/Oil/War/Alberta/CFR/Etc" party.

The newspapers are reporting on him in fairly staunch fashion as most are of 'Canadian' (read:euro/Rothschild) origin and ownership.

Perfect summary IMO.

Apex

15th November 2013, 05:07

Flash

15th November 2013, 07:19

The media's having a field day with this guy, but just as the media fails to report real news they are still experts at discrediting and demonising.

You have to wonder what the real agenda is here.

Here he media seems on the contrary to finally be doing its job. The guy is a full fledge jerk and the law does not allow for firing him (elected official) unless he is found guilty of some criminal act, and yet, I am not sure Torontonians could fire him. THis just tells you that anybody could be elected, anybody. There is no law in Canada for being mentally sane when elected - Harper would not have stayed lol

Usually, lots of pressure are put on such people to willfully abandon their post, but Ford would not comply with lots lots of pressure, he keeps on.

Reporters are finally doing their job in Québec as well with a never ending inquest into widespread corruption at cities (many cities) hall, government levels, name it. The corruption involves political parties as well. FInally some truth.

It seems that you had the mafia controlling the city, as in Montréal. You know, when you take on such mafia, you've got to be clean, which does not seem to be the case with Ford.

So, Apex, you are telling us that he is fine and has done its job? Which may be true, in that case, why is he subjectable to bribes with all the narcotics he takes and life he has?

Milneman

15th November 2013, 10:02

Calz

15th November 2013, 10:12

Simple soul that I am ... me wonders how someone can break so many laws and still cling to psychopathic characteristics to demand to remain in office.

If this isn't the ultimate wake up call to humanity worldwide then I don't know what it would take.

When is enough enough people???

soleil

15th November 2013, 14:36

hes not my mayor, but i know of him. he apparently did a good job from what i hear, and i think sure he could have done stupid things....but lets name many other political people who have as well, and the people above them looking for an easy distraction. im on no ones side about ford, but im a believer that drug addiction (im not necessarily talking about ford here) as a illness, not a criminal activity.

ive worked in a few corporate sales (multinational) co's for last 10yrs....i was exposed to finding out my colleagues did the white stuff all the time. some were great at their jobs and it didnt hinder them, some (like my ex-which i didnt know about) turned into a creature and couldnt function without it.....ford got caught. im not saying its right/wrong...but lets throw in some thing worse like other political people who are satanists and do worse behind closed dorrs.....

somethings being covered up...

tpp
fda against organic farmers
obamacrap
**** harper is doing

your guess

dianna

15th November 2013, 16:04

Personally, I find the the whole situation quite hilarious ... but then again I get my news late at night from "comedy network"

Such indignant outrage from the same vacuous "bobblehead buying" population that:

watch The Sopranos and sit around and talk about what a fascinating, complex character was portrayed by the late, great James Gandolfini, how brilliant the writing was, how it changed television forever. [T]alk about how Omar is the coolest character on The Wire and admire Stringer Bell’s business acumen. [G]ive a cultural relativist pass to Eminem’s embodiment of A Clockwork Orange’s Droogs, give him Grammys and claim he’s just a storyteller and no, of course he’s not vicariously acting out some strange corners of our own psyche. [Hey? is that] Snoop Dogg on Sesame Street[?]. [and lets not forget what great ratings the serial killing "dexter" has gotten]

From the article:

Rob Ford is Tony Soprano
http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/11/08/rob-ford-is-tony-soprano/

selinam

15th November 2013, 16:32

The media's having a field day with this guy, but just as the media fails to report real news they are still experts at discrediting and demonising.

You have to wonder what the real agenda is here.

I agree. There are far worse Mayors out there - how about London (UK)? From day one of Rob Ford being in office, there seems to have been a 'vendetta' to get him out and now they have their chance it seems. This guy is getting stabbed in the back from those who appeared to be on his side. Whoever made that video public should be disgusted with themselves. Plenty of people in public service have gotten drunk and said things in private and videos aren't made of them and shown to everyone. The media are like a bunch of piranhas.

dianna

16th November 2013, 00:53

How about instead of worrying about the "theatre of the absurd" of Rob Ford we worry about something important that has been going on in our city --- an actual crime and tragedy --- say, like this:

Child porn bust: Anatomy of an international child pornography investigation

Star reporters granted exclusive access as police worldwide make hundreds of arrests in what is known as Project Spade.

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The customers logged in from around the world: Germany. Spain. Mexico. Australia. Hundreds from Canada and the United States. They came from all walks of life; they worked as schoolteachers and newspaper editors, as police officers and doctors.

What they had in common, police allege, was that they paid a Toronto man to provide them with explicit “naturist” videos of children — and, as a result, they are now caught up in what is believed to be the smashing of the largest, most extensive commercial child pornography ring ever uncovered in Canada.

Among law enforcement, the investigation is known as Project Spade.
For nearly a year, a team of Star reporters was granted exclusive behind-the-scenes access to the child exploitation unit of the Toronto Police Service as they brought their three-year investigation to a conclusion on Thursday.

The trail of a child porn filmmaker leads to Romania

At the centre of the ring, police allege, is Brian Way: A 42-year-old with a thin goatee and carefully groomed hair, he faces 24 charges of making, possessing, distributing, exporting and selling the explicit images of boys — who range in age from toddlers to teens — in videos that investigators say were edited, packaged and sold from his west-end Toronto warehouse.

They have also laid a charge of instructing a criminal organization, the first time this has been done in relation to a child pornography investigation. It is a charge more usually associated with gangs or organized crime.

“This case has really challenged people to reconsider what nudism and child modelling are,” said Toronto police Detective-Constable Lisa Belanger, who led the investigation. “It’s caused countries around the world to look at this material and ask whether it’s OK for doctors, teachers, daycare providers and hockey coaches to be buying this kind of material. Countries from South Africa to Australia, Isle of Man to Hong Kong and Spain have all said it’s not OK. I think it’s going to have ripple effects everywhere.”

Among Way’s alleged Canadian clients are a Chatham volunteer hockey coach, a teacher in Toronto, a priest and a Boy Scout leader in Quebec, and a retired high-school principal in Nova Scotia.

In the U.S., those arrested include police officers, a high-profile pediatrician, school teachers, principals and coaches and a Boy Scout leader.
In all, 108 Canadians have been arrested in Project Spade sweeps (50 in Ontario, of whom at least 20 have so far pleaded guilty to various charges). Another 76 Americans face charges. Internationally, another 164 are before the courts. And hundreds more remain under investigation.

Even as Toronto detectives revealed Project Spade to the world at a news conference Thursday at police headquarters, the arrests kept coming: Swedish police reported another batch, bringing the global total of arrests to 348.

Among them in Canada: Forty school teachers, nine doctors and nurses, 32 people who volunteer with children, six law enforcement personnel, nine pastors and priests and three foster parents.

As police dug deeper into the suspects’ activities, they discovered that many had not simply been purchasing alleged child pornography images and videos, but were actively engaged in hands-on abuse of children.

In all, police say 386 children were rescued from direct abuse and exploitation as a result of the Spade investigation — including 24 Canadian children and more than 330 children in the U.S.

Modest start

For an investigation that would eventually cross international borders into more than 90 countries and include dozens of law enforcement agencies, the genesis of Project Spade began locally, nearly a decade ago.

Way, police allege, began his business — characterized now as a clandestine, large-volume international network — modestly. They say he started by buying films from other companies and redistributing them, online, under his own company name: 4PSP Inc.

But Way’s site, and success, attracted attention. By 2004, police had received more than 30 complaints about the site, says Belanger.

On the surface, it appeared to be a legal “naturist” site, showcasing what were billed as artistic films that featured nude boys. But officers decided a closer look was needed, and an investigation was launched in 2006. They looked at Way’s material and found nudity — worrying to many, but not enough to meet the strict legal parameters of child pornography.

It was decided police couldn’t lay charges, but they warned Way the material was questionable.
With that, Way disappeared from police radar — until detectives stumbled across him as part of a separate investigation years later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SkI3u4zMfo

Hundreds of kids rescued from child porn ring: Police

In October 2010, as part of his routine work, Toronto police sex crimes unit investigator Det. Paul Krawczyk was downloading child abuse images from an anonymous online porn trader, who appeared to have a vast library of material. (Officers often pose undercover as pedophiles in order to identify targets and gather evidence.) Krawczyk, one of the most experienced investigators in Canada in the field, was taken aback by the extent of the material in his new target’s possession.
“It was one of the biggest collections of child pornography we’d ever seen,” Krawczyk says.
He discovered the anonymous figure behind the online porn library was Brian Way. That’s when police computers flagged his name from the previous investigation. The connection led to the creation of Project Spade.

By this time, 4PSP Inc. had morphed into a new site: Azovfilms.com.

The site was an Amazon-like marketplace, “featuring coming-of-age and naturist films,” the website claimed. There were Top 10 lists and reviews for discerning customers; a searchable catalogue; and digital downloads and credit card payments were available.
The site boasted more than two million unique visitors in 2009; by 2010, the number was more than three million.
It also had an extensive legal page, where clients were assured that “no film we sell violates Canadian or American law.” This, after all, was a site that was supposed to feature wholesome naturist films.

But if police could prove, and they have yet to do so, that the videos focused on the genital area, and were for a “sexual purpose” rather than for artistic merit, they could build a case for child exploitation.

In order to do that, they were going to have to get copies of what Way was selling, and that was not going to be easy.
“He was super, super-careful,” Krawczyk says. “He denied 10 to 15 orders a day because he was so very careful.”
What followed was a two-year cat-and-mouse game.

Appeared ordinary
To casual observers in the industrial area of west Toronto where his website was headquartered, Way appeared to live the most ordinary of lives.
Each morning, he would don jeans and a sweatshirt and head to his nondescript office on The Queensway, walk over to Tim Hortons for coffee and a bagel — then disappear back behind the mirrored door, next to the black mailbox.

His mailman called Way a charming man who always remembered him with a bottle of wine at Christmas. The teller who saw Way regularly when he did his banking hired him to photograph her wedding. And no one, including the tenants who shared space in his building, knew what went on behind the mirrored door.
Police staked out the office and saw a bustling business. Trucks came and went, Belanger says. And while many of the customers chose to download videos digitally, many remained devoted to hard-copy DVDs, which were dispatched by courier.

Police needed to obtain video evidence, but not trigger alarm bells. The Canadian officers decided on a solution: because so many of the site’s customers were in the U.S., the Toronto officers looked south for a law enforcement partner.

Enter Insp. Brian Bone. He is the program manager for a team of investigators at the U.S. Postal Inspection Service that specialize in child exploitation cases — and if it seems unlikely that postal employees hunt pedophiles, it’s because even in this high-tech age, a lot of child pornography still gets delivered via mail and by courier.
Bone placed his first successful order from Azovfilms.com in February 2011. He kept going. All told, he would purchase 10 DVDs, five of which met both the Canadian and U.S. legal standards as child pornography, police allege.

(In Canada, child pornography is defined as images or videos that depict, or appear to depict, a person under 18 in explicit sexual activity, or shows “for a sexual purpose . . . a sexual organ or the anal region of a person under the age of 18 years.” U.S. law is similar.)
“This is one of the larger cases we’ve had in recent memory because of the international scope,” Bone said. “It touched all 50 states and many countries across the world. We’ve been successfully able to target suspects of the company and the operators and bring a lot of people to justice.”
Investigators who have seen the videos describe them the same way: All boys. All young. Some are very young.
“There’s a scene with a blow-up pool in an apartment with baby oil,” Belanger says. “One child in a movie takes 15 showers — all these kids we knew were being exploited.”

Joanna Beaven-Desjardins, unit commander of the Toronto Police’s sex crimes unit, alleges the images contained in hundreds of thousands of videos depict, “horrific sexual acts against very young children – some of the worst (officers) have ever viewed.”
By May 1, 2011, Belanger had search warrants for seven Toronto addresses, including Way’s home, post-office boxes, safety deposit boxes, car — and the office behind the mirrored door.

The operational plan for the bust — essentially the police’s play-by-play guide — ran 30 pages long, and 30 officers were involved. Way was arrested as he made his usual coffee-and-bagel run.

Once he was in custody, other officers sprang into action.

Inside Way’s Etobicoke condo unit in the Mystic Pointe development alongside the Gardiner Expressway, a laptop hummed away. It had been left powered up and logged on — which was crucial for police. That meant they were able to access his servers, free from encryption.
In his nearby office, another team of officers discovered shelves lined with a massive library of videos. They seized 1,000 pieces of evidence: computer servers, DVD burners, a video editing suite — and rows and rows of movies.

Belanger says spreadsheets on computers showed revenue of about $1.6 million over two years. (Ultimately, police said the company had revenues of over $4 million.) They also discovered something that expanded Project Spade’s scope: a list of customers.

Belanger and eight colleagues spent the summer screening more than 500 movies. They logged what they saw — and by the time they stopped counting they had catalogued 283,000 digital images of alleged child pornography, and another 10,000 videos in what they allege is Way’s personal collection.
Many of the site’s bestselling videos focus on a group of young boys in Eastern Europe. Police ultimately determined they were in Romania and Ukraine — and that they were being exploited for profit. The Romanian children were recruited from karate schools across the northern region of the country.
“Parents were being told their kids were going on karate trips, and they were being allowed to drink, do drugs, watch pornography and have naked videos made of them,” says Belanger.

The investigators ultimately focused on 160 of the most troubling videos they had seized. Because they had the customer list, detectives cross-referenced the disturbing films with the Azovfilms.com clients who they believed had purchased them.

Nearly a dozen search warrants were obtained focused on men in Toronto; seven were eventually arrested. (Most of them remain before the courts.) The Toronto officers shared their client lists with law enforcement around the world, and parallel investigations have been underway for two years in dozens of other countries.
In all, nearly 350 men around the world have been arrested to date. Investigations are still underway in many countries.

Way remains in custody. His preliminary hearing — during which a judge decides if there is enough evidence to send an accused to trial — is still ongoing, with another date set for next month.

On a cold, rainy morning last December, he walked into a North York courtroom handcuffed and dressed in an orange jail jumpsuit. Police were methodically laying out their case, and as the afternoon continued, Way stifled yawns and chatted with his lawyer. He appeared relaxed.

Police and prosecutors believe a long legal battle looms.

“This case demonstrates what we always suspected about naturist or child modelling sites — if it looks like they’re exploiting children, it’s likely they are,” Belanger says. “This project shows that the commercialization of children this way can be pornographic, and we have to investigate it.

“What was going on behind the scenes,” she alleges, “was child abuse.”

sigma6

16th November 2013, 10:17

I live in Toronto and Ford has done more for the city then any other mayor. He took out Italian mafia from the construction contracting and angered a lot of mafia people by doing so (they were holding practically all of the construction/repairs contracts with the city). It has been a smear campaign ever since. I personal could care less about his personal problems but the changes he made were the reason everyone is out to get him. He stooped monopolies on the city contracts and made it a more fair game for everyone. I would rather have an honest drug addict with good intentions then a clean cut pawn who follows orders and steers the ship in the same direction. It's a real shame what happened to him

You can't possibly believe that... "if" the mafia was affected at all, rest assured they are still there... and he IS in on it, just a different faction, all the money he says he has saved has been looked at and doesn't add up... the whole family is in on it... have been from day one... the joke with Ford is he doesn't even do anything, He is a LITERAL MEAT PUPPET... now that he is caught up and become a huge "liability" ... he has been abandoned, and like Obama without a teleprompter ... this is what you get... He's a dork with the mentality of a high school drop out. A turnup wearing a straw hat could do a better job then this fat slob... What an embarrassment to the city of Toronto... but at least he has done one thing... shown what a farce working in the government really is... He has just proven any moron can do this job... because it involves doing nothing but sitting on your hands all day...

The people of Toronto have lost their moral compass if they can't see what this guy is ... a fat windbag, and a puppet, who probably can't even tie his own shoes.

778 neighbour of some guy

16th November 2013, 11:59

The people of Toronto have lost their moral compass if they can't see what this guy is ... a fat windbag, and a puppet, who probably can't even tie his own shoes.

Hey ho, no so fast my dear fellow, he seems to be very fond of cats and Chinese food, that is to be appreciated, I like cats and Chinese food too.

Hervé

16th November 2013, 13:51

Aaahhh... Toronto... Well, I am not missing it!

Rob Ford Rant Leaves Daily Show's Stewart Howling WHAT?!? (VIDEO) (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/15/daily-show-rob-ford-video_n_4280983.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009)
The Huffington Post Canada
Posted: 11/15/2013 9:05 am EST | Updated: 11/15/2013 5:34 pm EST

Rob Ford (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/news/robford/) is famous.

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Jon Stewart devoted more than six minutes to the Toronto mayor Thursday night, ending with utter disbelief at Ford's oral-sex-related rant (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/14/rob-ford-staffer-drink-driving-oral-sex_n_4274195.html).

"WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAAAAAT?!?" Stewart howled. "Somewhere in a basement through his tears Anthony Weiner is going 'What the f***?' "

But Stewart wasn't the only comedian to mock Ford Thursday.

David Letterman devoted his Top 10 list to the mayor's long pause when asked if he had purchased drugs during the last two years. Ford eventually answered yes.

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Jimmy Fallon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek7aZtm4iQA), Jay Leno and Stephen Colbert also poked fun at Ford.

"God bless Canada, what a gift the Canadians have given us," Tonight Show host Jay Leno gleefully said Thursday night in his monologue as he joked that Ford's desire to run for re-election despite his admission of drug use and drinking could just be a "pipe dream."

Colbert addressed the new allegations of sexual impropriety leveled against the mayor by former staffers.

”Kind of makes you nostalgic for the crack now, doesn’t it Toronto,” Colbert quipped.

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Colbert is right. At this point, Torontonians are wondering: What else could possibly come next?

With files from The Canadian Press

Flash

22nd November 2013, 03:47

Hilarious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUY6lDja-DE

Carmody

22nd November 2013, 03:51

I live in Toronto and Ford has done more for the city then any other mayor. He took out Italian mafia from the construction contracting and angered a lot of mafia people by doing so (they were holding practically all of the construction/repairs contracts with the city). It has been a smear campaign ever since. I personal could care less about his personal problems but the changes he made were the reason everyone is out to get him. He stooped monopolies on the city contracts and made it a more fair game for everyone. I would rather have an honest drug addict with good intentions then a clean cut pawn who follows orders and steers the ship in the same direction. It's a real shame what happened to him

I would have to see proof of that before ever coming close to your stated evaluation of the situation.

As for any mafia situations, their actual existence, i have no doubt that it does. I've been told of that many a time. That is why the expansion of Toronto and the 407 highlway has cost Ontario and Toronto area taxpayers well in excess of 100 billion dollars. It's so bad that even the unborn grandchildren will probably be paying for it.

Those particular mafia factions are potent enough that things that surround Rob would be dead, and the 'bad guys' not chased away. People and things that Rob values would be dead, plain and simple. So no, I do not believe that the 'mafia was chased away'.

In appearance, maybe, like some sort of faked death scene or a thrown WWF match, but nothing more. Faked, as the people of Canada and specifically the Toronto area are becoming publicly aware HOW MUCH they have been screwed over and who is responsible for it.

We have similar stories about Montreal being cleaned out, but I see no bodies there, either, so it's all just so much bull****.

Flash

22nd November 2013, 04:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOf7olN0I8

I agree with everything being bull about the cleaning in Montréal, however, at least, reporters are truly reporting for once. So people are made conscious of what is going on. But cleaning???

Carmody

22nd November 2013, 04:12

The rules of the game are to have silence in matters, so that the game can occur under the noses of the public.

Only in endtimes (of a given situation) when unbalance is a consideration, do the rules get cast away. When one group has overwhelming advantage and another has overwhelming chance of loss. Overwhelming advantage means there is no caring of the rules and overwhelming chance of loss means to move past the rules, to find the chance to win.

Under those conditions, the public is finally made aware of a game being played with them (and upon them), a game that has always been in their world, and under their noses.