A Question About "Resonance"

[Freed Fox]

There are many who express beliefs based solely upon the fact that it 'resonates' strongly with them, to the core of their being. Of course, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. However, I have a question for those to whom this applies (which is quite possibly most Avalonians);

If you resonate with something, and someone else resonates just as strongly with the polar opposite of that belief, what does that mean to you? Do you just presume the other person to be mistaken?

[Eram]

Hi Freed fox,

I think about this phenomenon a lot too and I've come to the conclusion (so far) that the question should be: "what exactly resonates?"
Is it an emotion?
Is a mental construct?
Is it the soul/higher self?

The fact that something resonates does not per se mean that it must then be true, but only that it hooks on to a certain idea, emotion or knowing that lives in me and not all three of them have to correspond with the truth.

my two cents :)

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Tech 5

The Middle Path of information.

The experience of Judgement and or Discernment leads to , loosely , as a door to uncertainty of the self. When reading anything in order to resonate truly one must adapt an attitude of absolute non Judgement. Any such distortions will alter the true resonance in meaning embedded within the text perhaps even lending to previous beliefs which may taint the original.

It is wise to read all documents and information from a neutral stand point in which " resonance " can be allowed to " Happen " and can be " read " restrospectively when one ponder their " feelings " on the matter.

For Eg

If one was to attend the fire works , it would be advantageous than rather talking , describing , analysng and debating the display , one should just stare and be in awe of its radiance. Then after one can describe how it made them feel, without distortion.

All thoughts are constructive. When you attach a " Judgement " to something you are distorting it.

I hope this helps


N

[Chip]

We are all different. Just as the strings on a guitar. If I tap a G tuning fork the only string that would "resonate" would be the the G string.
Is it "wrong" that the other strings did not resonate as well?

[Kalamos]

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[RMorgan]

Hey brother,

Putting it simply, people say that something "resonates" when something corroborates their already established beliefs.

So, "resonating" is not necessarily a good thing, because beliefs differ between individuals and some of those beliefs are utterly wrong.

As an example, we could say that eugenics and antisemitism "resonated" with Hitler's mindset, despite both being completely horrible concepts...And Hitler definitely thought he was right...

That's why I say that people should equally respect and pay attention to what "resonates" and what doesn't.

Seeking confirmation of your own version of truth, or just considering what "resonates", doesn't makes you a truth-seeker. Most of the times, it just makes you ignorant, in the literal sense of the word; in other words, it makes you ignore potentially valuable information by engaging in constant confirmation bias mode.

I don't really like the word "resonate", the way it's constantly being used here... In this sense, people don't actually know why something "resonates" with them, and if they don't know why, it means there are a lot of questions to be answered...Believing something for no apparent reasons besides "resonance" can be very misleading, most of the times.

Just my two cents.

Raf.

[Robin]

I feel that everybody has the right to believe what they want to believe, as long as they meet three prerequisites. As long as:

it truly makes them happy.
it does no harm to others.
it is not impressed or indoctrinated on anybody.


As a man of science it is my duty to keep an open mind, support or reject something through evidence and common sense, and to be open to accepting a new theory if the current theory I support is debunked. Unfortunately, many people do not agree with this, which often leads to hostility when they cling to certain paradigms that they have supported much of their life.

The way I look at it is: how could any of us truly be wrong? Yes, we can be wrong when analyzing the laws of physics and such, but how can somebody be wrong on a personal level if we are all one? I stand behind the idea that all humans share one vast consciousness, and that all living and nonliving things are one single entity (plants, bacteria, humans, extraterrestrials, stars, the universe...)

I think that we are all one. We are all fractals of infinity, so how could personal views be wrong? After all, we are all on the path to understanding, are we not? Some people call this enlightenment, including myself. Some people choose to take a slower and more perilous route on the way to true enlightenment, while others take a quicker and smoother route. Either way, we get to the same place, don't we? I think the energy of our bodies ends up getting mixed with the cocktail of energy that the universe is made up of. Some people call this different names.

Another example. There are tons of different forums all across the internet that discuss very similar things. For a while it boggled my mind why there would exist so many different forums that discuss the same things when it may be more efficient and productive if we all get together on one forum and discuss things as a larger audience (there doesn't need to be competition when seeking the truth). I found when looking at all of these forums that there are different levels of understanding and discourse in the members. I couldn't decide which forum to join until I reached Avalon.

When I found Avalon, I quickly knew that this is where I need to be. It's not that I do not appreciate what other forums are doing, I just think that it is more efficient to have many forums across the internet so people with like minds can come together and talk on the same level. To me, Avalon is full of minds who are very advanced, mature, experienced, kind, and open-minded. I might consider this forum a "college-level" forum (not literally). Regardless of education level, I think that the members who are attracted to Avalon are naturally very mature and open-minded.

This title, however, is not condescending in any way. I would rate many other forums as "High-school," "Junior-high," and "elementary" level. I do not mean any offense to members of other forums when saying this. Different forums are right for different people depending on how they communicate with one another. We need many forums talking about similar topics because not everybody is on the same level of understanding and discourse. It would be very difficult indeed to have loads of teenagers on this forum, in my opinion, as they tend to be more silly and unfocused.

So what I am trying to say is that we are all on different paths to reach the same level of understanding. Certain members of Avalon resonate with certain information, and that's fine. It doesn't mean that anybody is wrong to hold a belief, but that they may take longer to reach a certain level of understanding. We all must get knocked down with criticism and be led down a path of disinformation at some point...it's how we learn.

:llama:

[spiritguide]

Resonance might be the affirmation of perception through the senses. A sixth sense so to speak that verifies one or more of the others. Esoteric (metaphysic) in nature.

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Peace!

[Milneman]

There are many who express beliefs based solely upon the fact that it 'resonates' strongly with them, to the core of their being. Of course, I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that. However, I have a question for those to whom this applies (which is quite possibly most Avalonians);

If you resonate with something, and someone else resonates just as strongly with the polar opposite of that belief, what does that mean to you? Do you just presume the other person to be mistaken?

Hey Foxy.

I'm going to answer two different ways.

First, as a philosopher I'd say this: I seem to believe that certain ideas seem to be innate, namely that every human being has ideas that are consistent. How we interact with these ideas then depends upon how our environment forces us to either go with or bend away from those innate ideas. Plantinga seems to believe that belief in God is one of these kinds of ideas, and I tend to agree with him. He would say that differences in what resonates is just symptomatic of differences in your noetic structure, caused by differences in world view. (Or in plain english, people jive with certain things based on what's already existent in the mind, and what that mind interacts with during the course of it's life.)

Second, I have to say that there are times when philosophy just doesn't seem to fill in the blanks. Good example: I can rationalize the problem of evil, the problem of pain, but when I experience that pain myself, or witness it in another person, that really challenges my philosophical belief. It pushes it to the limit in some cases, including my own. Pain effects how we perceive the truth, but it doesn't change the truth from being the truth...if that makes sense. Case in point. Last night, out of sheer frustration, I found myself in tears about my current life situation, a.k.a. feeling sorry for myself. :) It doesn't change the fact that I have the power to effect change in my life that would put the pain to an end, its just that sometimes I have to work through it from a different angle to think clearly.

It reduces to this: ideas we resonate with are traits of our world view. Once we have a definite idea of what our world view is, there are ways to test the validity of that world view to make sure we are not in error. I can get into detail, but I have to dig through my notes...so if you'd like me to go further, let me know and I shall burrow. :)

[Sunny-side-up]

When I think of 'Resonance' I do not think of mindfulness and ideas, that is just to agree or disagree, a belief or disbelief!
Resonance to me is that which raises an energy in me, it might be a dark/bad or light/good energy.
The incoming energy causes a growth in my energy, it causes an awareness of a change.
This change I either enjoy and try to escalate or I move out of the way of or transmute it best I can. I transmute it to my prime and desired resonance! in my case that is towards the Good and healing!

[enfoldedblue]

The fact that many people 'resonate' with stuff like the galactic federation of light and prosperity funds being handed out to everyone...just after the mass arrests, indicates that resonance is not an ideal tool for discerning the 'truth'. However, what I have come to realise it that reality is so rich and complex that one person can never 'know' the truth...only their perspective of it. Thus to me there is no point in trying to invalidate another's perception.

For me this whole reality is more about a journey in which we learn and grow. There really is not a right road or a wrong road...well maybe there is in the objective sense (like it is incorrect that there are some guys running around wearing white hats who are going to fix everything for us and make life a paradise...that is an example of objectively wrong) but for some it may be a road that they need to follow in order to learn and grow in a way that perfectly suits their soul development...therefore for them 'it resonates'.

So for me I think resonance is a powerful tool in assisting us to explore that which has something to say to us...but not is discerning what is actually true or not.

Hope this makes some sense.

[Magnus]

There is nothing wrong with standing up for your beliefs as long as you're willing to learn, rather often two opposing beliefs can be true at the same time if viewed from a third stance. Great opportunity for advancement on behalf of either one or both.

[Anchor]

If you resonate with something, and someone else resonates just as strongly with the polar opposite of that belief, what does that mean to you? Do you just presume the other person to be mistaken?

When I think of "resonance" as a truth discriminator (inner discernment), I think of the "ring of truth" ringing like a bell and the "bell" is rung not by a hammer, but by a metaphysical wave-form that the bell is in tune with.

The thing is we are all different and consequently we are all tuned differently. What rings my bell may not ring yours :)

[Jeffrey Mark]

Resonance, the best word we have come up with to describe it, appears to be a quantifiable property in the visible and invisible fabric of what we can percieve, all things that are and are not, all possibilities. One who understood it better than most stated “If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration.” ― Nikola Tesla
Humans, being very advanced conduits of this energy experience a wide range of resonance from this energy, frequency, vibration on a continual basis. Much broader but also includes the frequency spectrum that makes a rock a rock. Giving our attention and thought to any particular aspect of it initiates a complex chemo-electric process within in micro seconds, which in turn alters our field and the field/s we are within and begins to create some kind of apparent reality and certain things begin to manifest out of that apparent reality which for lack of understanding or better words have been deemed "good/evil", "positive/negative", "wrong/right" courage/fear, love/hate, etc, etc.
When the aforementioned occurs with me it makes me question and look at what I have been holding in mind, or giving my attention to in relation to the subject in question. I can then evaluate what I am using as my guideposts or markers to create this resonance in relation to the particular thing in question. I can resonate strongly with anything I choose to give my attention to and create a reality for myself, such as an opposing viewpoint for instance. Having many things to go by, I choose to see if my resonance continues at it's apparent polar opposite from another when held in mind with either one or all of my perceptions of peace, love, stillness, beauty or joy. Many times my resonance dissipates and other times it does not when I do this. With diligent practice and patience this can be done in a matter of seconds. Depending on the strength and amplitude of the the resonance and how much and long I have given my attention to it, it can take longer.

[Freed Fox]

Very interesting...

Thank you all for your replies. Some really interesting stuff there.

Just to clarify;


[...] Do you just presume the other person to be mistaken?

^It might go without saying, but that was not the position I was personally taking in the OP, regarding the issue raised therein. It was just a consideration that I wanted to throw out there, to see how others would respond.

To me, "Resonance" = Intuitive sense. I don't know if that is the most accurate description, and indeed several of you here have brought up some important peripheral questions on this subject; what exactly is resonating? How is it resonating? Are there different 'qualities' of resonance which point to different things going on within us internally?

I'd like to think that this sensation is not always indicative of confirmation bias, and that there are differences between the two in how they manifest/present in the individual. That may be rather difficult to determine, as I myself find it hard to pinpoint and describe the feeling itself. For those here; what does it feel like to you? Is it primarily emotional, psychological, physical, or a combination of two or more of these types of sensations?

[Robin]

I'd like to think that this sensation is not always indicative of confirmation bias, and that there are differences between the two in how they manifest/present in the individual. That may be rather difficult to determine, as I myself find it hard to pinpoint and describe the feeling itself. For those here; what does it feel like to you? Is it primarily emotional, psychological, physical, or a combination of two or more of these types of sensations?

I think that everybody is on their own individual path, following a mission to learn a particular lesson for the goal of enlightenment. So people resonate with particular information because it is right for them on their individual path, even if it is misleading.

I guess for me, the logical part of my brain needs to be nourished for me to accept something. So I guess that I would have to be mentally stimulated towards a particular idea for me to accept it as truth by it not deviating from natural laws.

But the emotional part of my brain is just as strong, and I feel empathy for all individuals who dispense information...even if it is misleading. I just choose not to align my thoughts to their ideas.

[Robin]

This is a really good thread, Freed Fox. I also want to comment on why I think that people resonate with different music, which I see relevant here:

I find it very interesting that there can be so many extremes when it comes to music preferences. In a group of friends, who value one another's camaraderie, there is sometimes a huge gap in musical tastes. One individual might like classical music and loathe heavy metal, while another individual loves heavy metal but loathes classical. How could there be such a wide gap between people who grow up in the same area?

I think that how people resonate with information is directly correlated with how they resonate with musical tastes. As we are all on our soul journey, we are on different levels. No superiority exists, as we are all one. But some of us are older souls, some of us are ET souls coming from a higher density, and some of us are very young souls. I think that where we are on a soul level, thinking in terms of grades in school, dictates how we resonate with our surroundings.

After all, we are sound-vibration complexes, each resonating with different frequencies. The universe is made up of vibrations through which energy manifests in different forms. That beings said, I am going to make a bold observational theory...and I hope that I do not offend anyone.

If we are all made up of different frequencies, and each of us are on an individual path on a soul level, then wouldn't it make sense that we listen to music that resonates with our energetic frequency? Just like people often wear colors of clothes that match their aura, unknowingly, I think it is possible that we listen to music in the same way.

Science already shows that music does influence emotions. That is why I am going to boldly say that those who actively listen to louder, disorderly music such as heavy metal, may be in the category of younger souls. Their bodily energetic frequency may be lower as they have younger souls, so the music (which is just vibration) may simply feel right for them. The music's frequency matches their energetic frequency and there is no disruption.

Those who actively listen to classical music, on the other hand, which is very opposite to heavy metal, may be in the category of older souls. These individuals have accumulated more experience through their soul journey so resonate with a calmer, high frequency. Classical music is very soothing and organized and flows in tune with the frequencies of nature. Therefore, it may make sense that these soothing tones match the frequency of an older soul who has more experience in finding inner peace.

Again, I hope that this doesn't cause backlash on my part. I don't think this applies to everybody, but should be taken as a general theory. It doesn't matter whether an individual soul is younger or older than another, or has a lower of higher vibration, because we are all one and on the same journey.

:peace:

[sian]

Very interesting...

Thank you all for your replies. Some really interesting stuff there.

Just to clarify;


[...] Do you just presume the other person to be mistaken?

^It might go without saying, but that was not the position I was personally taking in the OP, regarding the issue raised therein. It was just a consideration that I wanted to throw out there, to see how others would respond.

To me, "Resonance" = Intuitive sense. I don't know if that is the most accurate description, and indeed several of you here have brought up some important peripheral questions on this subject; what exactly is resonating? How is it resonating? Are there different 'qualities' of resonance which point to different things going on within us internally?

I'd like to think that this sensation is not always indicative of confirmation bias, and that there are differences between the two in how they manifest/present in the individual. That may be rather difficult to determine, as I myself find it hard to pinpoint and describe the feeling itself. For those here; what does it feel like to you? Is it primarily emotional, psychological, physical, or a combination of two or more of these types of sensations?

resonance, that's why i'm here amongst you all, trusting all who are willing to try and understand the greater truth, unraveling before our eyes, in our hearts, minds, ears with those who are here at this time.

from my personal perspective i can say that it comes from an emotional and physical combination as a i cannot rely on my capacity to memorize facts and details to create a clear and cohesive picture. my articulation is my failing, i realize this of course, taking the fact that there are different views and approaches of the 'resonance' is beautiful but complex indeed, in the tapestry of life where i stand. i'm feeling the so called resonance, but still in a tangle of threads with quite a few knots to unravel as yet. sure i'm not alone in this regard. you see, inside, somewhere in the depth of my own perception, i do know who i am but just forgotten the details, stitch by stitch, thats all.

to be honest i do not function very well in my life thus far. everything is a struggle, that's ok because i'm learning as i go. it's been a snails pace compared to many, many here i trust. writing in this thread and in this way for instance is a big deal in itself for me, but i know within, it is for me. my wiring might be a little shorted and fuzzy at times but a current is definitely alive and willing to find it's point of contact. this is what i call resonance. hope i'm making sense here.

Thanks for showing a way to try and explain resonance for all of us.:)