Earth's Real Orbit

[seleka]

I just saw this, but it was like I already had thought this too, the whole we are on a ship called earth moving through space... I hadn't really considered we were moving as a system however, very interesting.

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[Hervé]

Check this post:


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This guy's got a good grip on the subject except he is missing why our sun is traveling in an elliptical spiral in a similar fashion as planets do around it... i.e. that the sun is "orbiting" around a twin in a binary system:


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[tonyp]

In my opinion earths orbit is totally irrelevant when you consider the obvious

[Johnny]

I just saw this, but it was like I already had thought this too, the whole we are on a ship called earth moving through space... I hadn't really considered we were moving as a system however, very interesting.


Yes it is, why have we learned that stupid stuff that we are circling around the sun ?

It is the same with the infinite. In the school we were told that the infinite is far far away, by given us the impression through the numbers: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 -> to the infinite sign.
That is wrong too, the infinite is right here, we are living IN the infinite ! The truth is, number 1 is infinite number 2 is infinite and so on.
What probably will scare people is, there is no up, no down, no left, no right, no big and no small etc.

I guess that Nassim Haramein will interest you. Try to google him, there are lots of videos with him, and he has a great humor IMO.

Johnny

[Snowflower]

This is similar to The Dr. Bhat theory with the presentation of the sun as a comet and the planets as debris in the tail of the comet, in a spiral dance around the perimeter of the tail. it's an interesting corollary to the transition from one density to another. Much like I don't accept reincarnation as taught today because returning again and again to square one is not progression, it is regression. My perception of growth toward the Creator (the point of oneness) is in a spiral motion as well.

[Hervé]

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... why have we learned that stupid stuff that we are circling around the sun ?

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Simply because we are! And it ain't stupid at all!

Whether you like it or not!!!

When I wrote above to "CHECK" this post (one just needed to click on the (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=641867#post641867) inside the quoted material to do so), I wasn't joking... it's a strong incentive to do so!

So, for those who didn't bother to do so, here is the full post:



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Earth Is Not Orbiting The Sun
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Planets DO NOT "orbit" the Sun.
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There is no such thing as "orbit" in Phi Spiraling 3D Space. An orbit means that object A traces a complete circle around a STATIONARY object B on ONE plane. Like a centrifuge.

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There is no "fabric of space."

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Jason Verbelli

Well... these guys are playing with words and definitions.

What make them right with their definitions is that the complete motion of a planet in space around a galaxy is considered. Well, they still use the center of the galaxy as a reference frame.

And that's the key concept: Reference Frame

If one takes the sun as reference frame (making it "stationary") no matter what the sun's motion is around its binary twin and both dancing around a galaxy itself dancing in a choreography of galaxies, then the planets DO ORBIT around the sun even though the actual, compounded motion is an elliptically spiraling elliptical spiral (taking into account the spiraling motion of a binary system circumnavigating the galaxy).

And that's depicted in Nassim's video when the view is perpendicular to the sun's traveling path.


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No planet gets lost in space behind the sun's path, in a trail of lost planets, around the galaxy! Even the asteroid belt and the Oort cloud are kept in synch with sun's motion around the galaxy!

For that to happen, then the planets have to be maintained in ORBIT around the sun, as a nearly independent reference frame, irrespective of their actual motion around the galaxy.

How's that possible?

That's where the Electric Universe and its Electromagnetic wooffs and warps give a very plausible solution to the mechanisms at work:


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The above experiments do demonstrate that THERE IS A FABRIC TO SPACE!



DURHAM, N.H. — After three years of puzzling over a striking “ribbon” of energy and particles discovered by NASA’s Interstellar Boundary Explorer (IBEX) at the edge of our solar system, scientists may be on the verge of cracking the mystery.

In a paper published Feb. 4, 2013, in the Astrophysical Journal, researchers, including lead author Nathan Schwadron of the University of New Hampshire, propose a “retention theory” that for the first time explains all the key observations of this astrophysical enigma.

http://www.sott.net/image/image/s6/130502/full/ibexoutlinering_lg_610x817.jpg
A three-dimensional diagram of the retention region shown as a "life preserver" around our heliosphere bubble along with the original IBEX ribbon image. The interstellar magnetic field lines are shown running from upper left to lower right around the heliosphere, and the area where the field lines "squeeze" the heliosphere corresponds to the ribbon location. The red arrow at the front shows the direction of travel of our solar system. Image credit: Adler Planetarium/IBEX Team.

“If the theory is correct,” Schwadron notes, “the ribbon can be used to tell us how we’re moving through the magnetic fields of the interstellar medium and how those magnetic fields then influence our space environment.”
See this thread: Enigmatic "Ribbon" Of Energy Explained (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?55326-Enigmatic-Ribbon-Of-Energy-Explained)

This guy's got a good grip on the subject except he is missing why our sun is traveling in an elliptical spiral in a similar fashion as planets do around it... i.e. that the sun is "orbiting" around a twin in a binary system:


C4V-ooITrws


Hence, it cannot be:


It is the same with ...
... disproving by association ain't working either...

Too bad that in all of this, and for the sake of cutting corners, "motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_%28physics%29)" and "trajectory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trajectory)" are being confused...

The motion of planets around the sun is elliptical/circular when the sun is taken as reference...

[ghostrider]

They spoke of sending a man into space ... ehummmm we are ALREADY in space ... we dangle in the milkyway right now , moving at incredible speeds , getting hit with space junk , solar winds , and the bathtub is full of water sloshing around with volcanoes underneath it and us walking around on top of all of it ... Earth is our spaceship , the space shuttle is our taxicab ... look at the genius of it , instead of building a spaceship , we just use our entire planet and fly around space right along with our solar system ... only problem is no one has figured out how to steer our new car ... we keep making left turns ... lol

[Johnny]

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... why have we learned that stupid stuff that we are circling around the sun ?

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Simply because we are! And it ain't stupid at all!

Whether you like it or not!!!

When I wrote above to "CHECK" this post (one just needed to click on the (here) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?p=641867#post641867) inside the quoted material to do so), I wasn't joking... it's a strong incentive to do so!

Yes, I can understand that, if I had made a reply to your post, but I didn't !
You have a very excellent quotation in your signature:
“There is a condition worse than blindness, and that is, seeing something that isn't there.” LRH





And that's the key concept: Reference Frame

If one takes the sun as reference frame (making it "stationary") no matter what the sun's motion is around its binary twin and both dancing around a galaxy itself dancing in a choreography of galaxies, then the planets DO ORBIT around the sun even though the actual, compounded motion is an elliptically spiraling elliptical spiral (taking into account the spiraling motion of a binary system circumnavigating the galaxy).

And that's depicted in Nassim's video when the view is perpendicular to the sun's traveling path.

Here is a better video with Nassim's comments, and That is what the tread is about, not taken out from a definition, which also, if we make a little effort, can be made to 'prove' that the earth is flat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiKD4sBhCxg

But if you prefer to say that we are circling around the sun, that's OK with me!





Hence, it cannot be:


It is the same with ...
... disproving by association ain't working either...

You are quite right, if that was the case. Again I have to quote your own quote:
“There is a condition worse than blindness, and that is, seeing something that isn't there.” LRH

With all that said, I have to thank you. Your attitude and answers has taught me something, which has nothing to do with this case.

Have a good evening

Johnny

[GreenGuy]

This explains it pretty well....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU

[Conchis]

[QUOTE=karika;761915]
It is the same with the infinite. In the school we were told that the infinite is far far away, by given us the impression through the numbers: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 -> to the infinite sign.
That is wrong too, the infinite is right here, we are living IN the infinite ! The truth is, number 1 is infinite number 2 is infinite and so on.


Johnny

They symbol for infinity is two Zeroes joined on one side. The numbering system starts with zero and goes to 10.... it's just moving the Zero to the other side of a 1. It all exists between the first zero and the second 010. That 1 is simply the place where the two zeroes touch.