Gummy Bear song - seriously twisted

[Chakra]

This is seriously twisted - posted on PC wanted to share it here, this connection was made to me by a FB friend. Something that the Archons/Reptilians I am sure are behind when you look at the gelatin connection.

Gelatin... (http://hrexach.wordpress.com/tag/dr-rex-equality-environment-production-of-gummy-bears-and-worms-gelatin-nasty-stuff-boiling-skin-cartilage-bones-of-animals-we-all-are-one-onepridenetwork-com/)

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"I am a gummy bear?
Seriously if think this is cute and you let your kids be brainwashed by this - not very innocent song - your still asleep! It now has 12 million views that is very sad....
Please remember this is paid for by corporate exec's and cost at least 1/2 million to do. They spend months in preproduction to design this. There is nothing 'innocent' about these people.

First look at the bears Roman / Greek decor and all on pedestals. Gummy bears on pedestals?
This is to create an iconic look and feel. White represents purity and wholeness. (also contains all the colours)
The closest is the largest in god like status over looking it all and way above the children - green (emerald) represents the 3rd eye and truth, but the chartreus colour green is more of that which is a lie.
The next three are stacked - representing the the trinity (twice) with the root twice (red is actually not the pure colour of the root chakra but is red for lust) 3rd eye again and probably orange for the solar plexus. IF is is pink that would be the heart. Sugar also damages the heart and crown chakras.
In the back trinity you have both colours for the root chakra, the correct white for purity / red for lust and yellow (correct) crown for wisdom or intellect. Then you have the next 2 on the left looking like their having sex! What game is there where children are on top of each other like that? I ask....
Then there is the piles of gummies looking like a pile of dead bodies. In the back ground you have very ominous looking seagulls - more like ufo's and explosions of light going through the middle girl looking more like a bursting solar plexus chakra, or again an orgasmic response to this candy - and no this wouldn't be the first time they did this sort of thing.
Though your conscious mind may have no clue about the freguency or meaning of colours your subconscious mind does. Thats why the use of colour is so important. Notice the the main girl is pretty much all black, so why not green or pink? Kids should never be dressed in black, black is the complete absence of light. (growing up for me, black was only ever seen worn at funerals)
The really disgusting part of ' i am a gummy bear' that was referenced to me by a friend (x mod) was the connection with the ingredients. Gelatin...."
Posted here....
http://www.projectcamelotportal.com/forum/welcome-mat/845-gummy-bear-song-holy-crap

[shadowstalker]

The real gummy bear vid, I think it was really made for grown folks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNWF4aD18oc

[Chakra]

The real gummy bear vid, I think it was really made for grown folks...

Thank you for posting this - though it represents a bear and is not a child which is way better, it is still also has very sexual elements. Being just the nature of it advertising a candy I would hazzard to guess that it is still directed towards children. Even if it is done indirectly. :)

[toad]

Not to come off like the devils advocate here, but is there a problem with consuming gelatine? or animal collagen? Besides the apparent uneasyness some might feel finding out that it infact comes from animal parts, mostly skin/bone. Isnt it a good thing that we are using and not wasting most parts of animals? I'm confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

[DeDukshyn]

Not to come off like the devils advocate here, but is there a problem with consuming gelatine? or animal collagen? Besides the apparent uneasyness some might feel finding out that it infact comes from animal parts, mostly skin/bone. Isnt it a good thing that we are using and not wasting most parts of animals? I'm confused. Maybe I'm missing something.

I see your point completely, because I never didn't know how these were made.

Is it really still a mystery that gelatin comes from animal parts? There is and never has been vegetable gelatin. Gelatin is actually very healthy (although - not sure about the heavily refined stuff). In my grandmothers day, gelatin was rendered for certain recipes and treats (lived off the land kind of people -- German Mennonites), like treats and snacks, and for things like head cheese :)

But if you didn't know gummy bears and Jell-o where made from animal bones and skin -- now ya'all do!! ;) ;)

[Violet]

I gather that this topic is more to do with the symbolism in the vid and to some extent with gelatin. Are you vegetarian?

DeDukshyn, I fail to see in what sense waste material from animal bones is very healthy.

[DeDukshyn]

I gather that this topic is more to do with the symbolism in the vid and to some extent with gelatin. Are you vegetarian?

DeDukshyn, I fail to see in what sense waste material from animal bones is very healthy.

Then you probably also fail to see the excellent spectrum of nutrients that also exist in bones. In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.

The western diet "culture" is programmed to process the crap out of everything, and "purify" everything. The fact is Vitamin C works better in your body as part of a bioflavanoid complex - as would be found in nature in whole fruit. Many of the most nutritious parts of plants and animals are removed during processing and consumption for purely aesthetic, cultural, and profit purposes.

I am not a big fan of harvesting animals for food the way we do, but what I say is the truth regardless; and partly the reason we have a health epidemic spreading across the west ... time for humanity to take a few steps back to a simpler way ...

My 2 cents ;)

[Milneman]

I used to be able to dance like that, but I ate too many gummy bears....I think jelly babies are way better. Endorsed by a certain time lord, of course.

The girl in the middle is dressed in blue, not black. Oh no I'm picky again. It must be the diabeticles.

It is also possible! This was created as a marketing device for children who are very young. The entire thing reminds me of the same visuals used with the "Teletubbies"...and those bastards were evil. Even the gay one wasn't totally kosher, and I'm gay!

Having said that...

...if we really knew what went into most of the things we ate, we'd probably be a lot more choosey. Then again, that's part of the deception our society teaches us. Don't pay attention to the man behind the curtain! We use a pneumatic gun on the cow first, all you have to look at is the pretty red meat on the shelf!

Let's bake some bread tomorrow people, and start re-connecting with what we eat. It starts with one loaf of bread.

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The real gummy bear vid, I think it was really made for grown folks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNWF4aD18oc

say it with me! eat, sleep, rave, repeat. :D

[Crystine]

The real gummy bear vid, I think it was really made for grown folks


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNWF4aD18oc

Is he twerking? LOL

[kenaz]

Damn my one vice (gummie bears) and now this...

Gummy Bears, Pharmaceutical Drugs And Vaccines Made Out Of People
By Michael Snyder, on November 7th, 2013

http://thetruthwins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Gummy-Bears-Photo-by-Pato-Garza-300x196.jpg

That is a really crazy headline, right? Unfortunately, it is not a joke. Right now, gelatin made with human DNA fragments is already being used in pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines, and scientists believe that recent breakthroughs will soon make it economically feasible to use such gelatin in consumer products such as gummy bears and marshmallows on a massive scale. So are you ready for gummy bears made out of people? They are coming. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. As you will read about below, scientists have also combined human DNA with mice, rabbits, goats, pigs, sheep and cows. We have arrived at a time in human history when advances in technology have opened the door to a lot of things that were once considered to be impossible, and scientists are having a field day. But in the end, where will all of this technology end up taking us?

Most people would never even imagine that the gummy bears that they are eating could potentially contain human DNA.

Well, from now on you might want to check, particularly if those gummy bears come from China. The following is an excerpt from a recent io9 article…

In 2011, scientists in Beijing reported on a method of creating large amounts of gelatin by inserting human DNA fragments into yeast. Human DNA-derived gelatin has actually been in use for a while, in vaccine preparation and the gel caps that many over the counter drugs come in. This method created such large quantities of gelatin that it would be practical to use it for more common consumer goods like candy and baking supplies.

This is actually a brilliant breakthrough, because it avoids a whole lot of problems inherent in “natural” gelatin production. It’s incredibly difficult to get consistent results when manufacturing gelatin, and consistency is very important with vaccines. Because gelatin is derived from animal by-products, it can cause allergic reactions or be off limits to people with ethical or religious reasons for avoiding animal products.

Pretty gross, eh?

Who wants to eat human DNA?

Certainly not me. I have no plans to be a cannibal.

Unfortunately, millions of Americans are already getting human DNA in their pharmaceutical drugs and their vaccines…

[toad]

I would love to see some evidence of human DNA, in gummy bears. That is quite the claim, naturally I hope you know that deserves quite the evidence.


All I find is articles, rehashing that same paragraph, but you conveniently leave out the last paragraph.


Here's the thing – gelatin derived from human DNA is not made with human tissues in any way. It's pure chemistry. Regular gelatin? It's rendered by boiling a mess of animal byproducts like pig skins, cattle bones and entire horses. And people are worried about a few nucleic acids?

Its very easy to become sensational about these kinds of propositions, however there is a fundamental difference between creating synthetic gelatine in a lab that may inherit traits of human gelatine, and deriving gelatine from human bones. Lets make this clear.

[Akasha]

.....In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.....


According to Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_corpuscular_hemoglobin_concentration), MCHC is:


The mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration, a measure of the concentration of hemoglobin in a given volume of packed red blood cells.

I'm not a biologist. Can you clarify your statement please, DeDukshyn?

Cheers.

[Akasha]

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Here's the thing – gelatin derived from human DNA is not made with human tissues in any way..........

It's still a human derivative, right?

[Violet]

I gather that this topic is more to do with the symbolism in the vid and to some extent with gelatin. Are you vegetarian?

DeDukshyn, I fail to see in what sense waste material from animal bones is very healthy.

Then you probably also fail to see the excellent spectrum of nutrients that also exist in bones. In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.

The western diet "cuture" is programmed to process the crap out of everything, and "purify" everything. The fact is Vitamin C works better in your body as part of a bioflavanoid complex - as would be found in nature in whole fruit. Many of the most nutritious parts of plants and animals are removed during processing and consumption for purely aesthetic, cultural, and profit purposes.

I am not a big fan of harvesting animals for food the way we do, but what I say is the truth regardless; and partly the reason we have a health epidemic spreading across the west ... time for humanity to take a few steps back to a simpler way ...

My 2 cents ;)

Thanks for elaborating DeDukshyn.

I guess the thing is understanding in what way that this part of the animal that is - as portrayed above - considered waste material by the food industry (which nonetheless will make gelatin from it) has superior health benefits to the other parts of the animal that are sold separately and come on our plates visibly (that is:not in hidden form as here with the gummy bears).

Some animals have very rich livers. And then my question to you is: is the material in/from the bones healthier/as healthy as, for instance, the liver and if so: why are (grinded) bones not sold next to the liver.

[donk]

Oh man are these guys in on it??

BRTSZZgCUik

One of my favorite shows as a kid...but now I don't trust Disney....seems to me y'all found the secret to gummi-beary juice :p

[Crystine]

"Thanks for elaborating DeDukshyn.

I guess the thing is understanding in what way that this part of the animal that is - as portrayed above - considered waste material by the food industry (which nonetheless will make gelatin from it) has superior health benefits to the other parts of the animal that are sold separately and come on our plates visibly (that is:not in hidden form as here with the gummy bears).
Some animals have very rich livers. And then my question to you is: is the material in/from the bones healthier/as healthy as, for instance, the liver and if so: why are (grinded) bones not sold next to the liver."


Sorry ahead of time, I have trouble quoting.

Violet, first, glad to meet you.
Second, nothing is wasted these days. Just consider chicken wings. Used to be just a notch above garbage. Now here in the states people pay $1.00 a piece to suck on them.
Third, I have no use for powdered bones in my home. But I believe BONE china is still made with them. What about calcium tablets? Are they ever made from skeletal calcium?
If the controversy is about consuming gelatin from animal bones. Is chicken soup allowed? When I was a child, the sign of a good pot of soup (any kind), was whether or not it gelled in the fridge.
Almost done. Bear with me. I don't think animal protein is used in jelly beans. Corn starch it is.
And for vegetarians, i am not sure of the dividing lines between one type of vegetarian and another. But my nephew considers himself a vegan. He does not use eggs butter, cream. Is that right. However he drives a very expensive car. And wears 500 dollar designer shoes. I am sure neither the interior of his car or his foot attire is vinyl.
I am not a vegetarian, working on that. Hope to get there before this life is done.
In the meantime the greedy food industry wastes nothing.

In fact, food itself is completely, totally wasted. Literally. But even that is not entirely true any longer. I have read that some are using human waste for fertizler. Now that is something to roll our eyes over.

[Abhaya]

I'm sorry but who the hell wants to eat any part of that first picture! Nasty man :p looks like a horror movie.


Regular gelatin? It's rendered by boiling a mess of animal byproducts like pig skins, cattle bones and entire horses. And people are worried about a few nucleic acids?

I'd take a few nucleic acids over the former!

[Sierra]

Some animals have very rich livers. And then my question to you is: is the material in/from the bones healthier/as healthy as, for instance, the liver and if so: why are (grinded) bones not sold next to the liver.

The liver is where heavy metals accumulate, so if you do eat liver, buy calf's liver rather than beef liver.

The bones are sold as dog bones these days... Some people buy beef bones chopped into two inch chunks, bake them, scoop out the marrow (very good for you), and eat it on toast, considered a delicacy. :)

[DeDukshyn]

.....In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.....


According to Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_corpuscular_hemoglobin_concentration), MCHC is:


The mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentration, a measure of the concentration of hemoglobin in a given volume of packed red blood cells.

I'm not a biologist. Can you clarify your statement please, DeDukshyn?

Cheers.

Microcrystalline hydroxyapatite (MCHC / MCHA)




"MCHC containing Calcium & Phosphorus: MCHC is the best source of calcium and the only source to actually stimulate bone growth, thanks to the proteins, growth factors and natural minerals provided in bone. Calcium and phosphorus, which make up the bulk of the MCHC complex, are important minerals that make up the strength and mass of the bones." From here (http://www.aor.ca/products-page/products-list/ortho%e2%80%a2bone-ultra/#research_tab)


Example:
http://www.waitakibio.com/manufacturer/natural-calcium

PubMed article on MCHC/MCHA/OHA (different acro's same stuff) and bone health:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19407667

[DeDukshyn]

I gather that this topic is more to do with the symbolism in the vid and to some extent with gelatin. Are you vegetarian?

DeDukshyn, I fail to see in what sense waste material from animal bones is very healthy.

Then you probably also fail to see the excellent spectrum of nutrients that also exist in bones. In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.

The western diet "cuture" is programmed to process the crap out of everything, and "purify" everything. The fact is Vitamin C works better in your body as part of a bioflavanoid complex - as would be found in nature in whole fruit. Many of the most nutritious parts of plants and animals are removed during processing and consumption for purely aesthetic, cultural, and profit purposes.

I am not a big fan of harvesting animals for food the way we do, but what I say is the truth regardless; and partly the reason we have a health epidemic spreading across the west ... time for humanity to take a few steps back to a simpler way ...

My 2 cents ;)

Thanks for elaborating DeDukshyn.

I guess the thing is understanding in what way that this part of the animal that is - as portrayed above - considered waste material by the food industry (which nonetheless will make gelatin from it) has superior health benefits to the other parts of the animal that are sold separately and come on our plates visibly (that is:not in hidden form as here with the gummy bears).

Some animals have very rich livers. And then my question to you is: is the material in/from the bones healthier/as healthy as, for instance, the liver and if so: why are (grinded) bones not sold next to the liver.

Gelatin nutrient information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin#Medical_and_nutritional_properties

Grinded bones are now sold as nutritional supplements (http://www.aor.ca/products-page/products-list/ortho%e2%80%a2bone-ultra/), for the non-vegetarians, that is. (see my above post - on examples or go down to your health food stores and look for calcium / bone supplements made with MCHC (aka MCHA or OHA -- lots of different names - same thing).

Vegetarians don't really have this nutrient option.

You can buy bones from the grocery store in the meat section (at least ay my local Safeway). However - these are usually sold for soups - as soups are often created from boiled bones -- for both flavour and for the bone's nutrients).

Bones and livers do not have the same nutrients -- bones have balanced levels of nutrients that are used by your bones, to help keep proper PH in the body, and to assist in the generation of new bone when needed. I laugh at people who take loads of calcium and expect anything more than calcified soft tissues (a disease). Bones are made from a certain ratio of many different minerals and if you body is deficient in even one -- all the calcium in the world will just cause your body damage. It is this balanced essential mineral (and protein) complex that give bones their nutrients. The liver is something different altogether.

[Abhaya]

I gather that this topic is more to do with the symbolism in the vid and to some extent with gelatin. Are you vegetarian?

DeDukshyn, I fail to see in what sense waste material from animal bones is very healthy.

Then you probably also fail to see the excellent spectrum of nutrients that also exist in bones. In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.

The western diet "cuture" is programmed to process the crap out of everything, and "purify" everything. The fact is Vitamin C works better in your body as part of a bioflavanoid complex - as would be found in nature in whole fruit. Many of the most nutritious parts of plants and animals are removed during processing and consumption for purely aesthetic, cultural, and profit purposes.

I am not a big fan of harvesting animals for food the way we do, but what I say is the truth regardless; and partly the reason we have a health epidemic spreading across the west ... time for humanity to take a few steps back to a simpler way ...

My 2 cents ;)

Thanks for elaborating DeDukshyn.

I guess the thing is understanding in what way that this part of the animal that is - as portrayed above - considered waste material by the food industry (which nonetheless will make gelatin from it) has superior health benefits to the other parts of the animal that are sold separately and come on our plates visibly (that is:not in hidden form as here with the gummy bears).

Some animals have very rich livers. And then my question to you is: is the material in/from the bones healthier/as healthy as, for instance, the liver and if so: why are (grinded) bones not sold next to the liver.

Gelatin nutrient information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin#Medical_and_nutritional_properties

Grinded bones are now sold as nutritional supplements (http://www.aor.ca/products-page/products-list/ortho%e2%80%a2bone-ultra/), for the non-vegetarians, that is. (see my above post - on examples or go down to your health food stores and look for calcium / bone supplements made with MCHC (aka MCHA or OHA -- lots of different names - same thing).

Vegetarians don't really have this nutrient option.

You can buy bones from the grocery store in the meat section (at least ay my local Safeway). However - these are usually sold for soups - as soups are often created from boiled bones -- for both flavour and for the bone's nutrients).

Bones and livers do not have the same nutrients -- bones have balanced levels of nutrients that are used by your bones to help keep proper PH in the body and to assist in the generation of new bone when needed. I laugh at people who take loads of calcium and expect anything more than calcified soft tissues (a disease). Bones are made from a certain ratio of many different minerals and if you body is deficient in even one -- all the calcium in the world will just cause your body damage. It is this balanced essential mineral (and protein) complex that give bones their nutrients. The liver is something different altogether.


While I would be of the type to avoid the bone ingestion . I couldn't agree more with your statement on traditional calcium supplements. They are inorganic and mostly if not totally unable to be assimilated by the body. And result in calcium deposits arthritis, and kidney stones. We need to get all of our minerals from organic sources. Inorganic minerals are only able to be assimilatd by plants. And might as well be dirt or sand put in the human body.

[kenaz]

I would love to see some evidence of human DNA, in gummy bears. That is quite the claim, naturally I hope you know that deserves quite the evidence.


All I find is articles, rehashing that same paragraph, but you conveniently leave out the last paragraph.


Here's the thing – gelatin derived from human DNA is not made with human tissues in any way. It's pure chemistry. Regular gelatin? It's rendered by boiling a mess of animal byproducts like pig skins, cattle bones and entire horses. And people are worried about a few nucleic acids?

Its very easy to become sensational about these kinds of propositions, however there is a fundamental difference between creating synthetic gelatine in a lab that may inherit traits of human gelatine, and deriving gelatine from human bones. Lets make this clear.

Well I guess it's all good then... it's just "produced from genetically modified, human-derived, yeast."
http://www.greenmuze.com/nurture/gmos/4067-human-derived-gelatin.html

[toad]

.....

Here's the thing – gelatin derived from human DNA is not made with human tissues in any way..........

It's still a human derivative, right?

This is different though then implying human gelatine from recycled human bones. Also that article only suggests potiential possibilities for future gelatine production by Chinese researchers. This is not how things currently are.

[DeDukshyn]

Damn my one vice (gummie bears) and now this...

Gummy Bears, Pharmaceutical Drugs And Vaccines Made Out Of People
By Michael Snyder, on November 7th, 2013

http://thetruthwins.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Gummy-Bears-Photo-by-Pato-Garza-300x196.jpg

That is a really crazy headline, right? Unfortunately, it is not a joke. Right now, gelatin made with human DNA fragments is already being used in pharmaceutical drugs and vaccines, and scientists believe that recent breakthroughs will soon make it economically feasible to use such gelatin in consumer products such as gummy bears and marshmallows on a massive scale. So are you ready for gummy bears made out of people? They are coming. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. As you will read about below, scientists have also combined human DNA with mice, rabbits, goats, pigs, sheep and cows. We have arrived at a time in human history when advances in technology have opened the door to a lot of things that were once considered to be impossible, and scientists are having a field day. But in the end, where will all of this technology end up taking us?

Most people would never even imagine that the gummy bears that they are eating could potentially contain human DNA.

Well, from now on you might want to check, particularly if those gummy bears come from China. The following is an excerpt from a recent io9 article…

In 2011, scientists in Beijing reported on a method of creating large amounts of gelatin by inserting human DNA fragments into yeast. Human DNA-derived gelatin has actually been in use for a while, in vaccine preparation and the gel caps that many over the counter drugs come in. This method created such large quantities of gelatin that it would be practical to use it for more common consumer goods like candy and baking supplies.

This is actually a brilliant breakthrough, because it avoids a whole lot of problems inherent in “natural” gelatin production. It’s incredibly difficult to get consistent results when manufacturing gelatin, and consistency is very important with vaccines. Because gelatin is derived from animal by-products, it can cause allergic reactions or be off limits to people with ethical or religious reasons for avoiding animal products.

Pretty gross, eh?

Who wants to eat human DNA?

Certainly not me. I have no plans to be a cannibal.

Unfortunately, millions of Americans are already getting human DNA in their pharmaceutical drugs and their vaccines…

I think this explains where the "modified human DNA" gets into vaccines (one of the "secret" ingredients). I knew it was in there, but didn't know how. Why is there gelatin in a vaccine anyway?

[Violet]

"Thanks for elaborating DeDukshyn.

I guess the thing is understanding in what way that this part of the animal that is - as portrayed above - considered waste material by the food industry (which nonetheless will make gelatin from it) has superior health benefits to the other parts of the animal that are sold separately and come on our plates visibly (that is:not in hidden form as here with the gummy bears).
Some animals have very rich livers. And then my question to you is: is the material in/from the bones healthier/as healthy as, for instance, the liver and if so: why are (grinded) bones not sold next to the liver."


Sorry ahead of time, I have trouble quoting.

Violet, first, glad to meet you.
Second, nothing is wasted these days. Just consider chicken wings. Used to be just a notch above garbage. Now here in the states people pay $1.00 a piece to suck on them.
Third, I have no use for powdered bones in my home. But I believe BONE china is still made with them. What about calcium tablets? Are they ever made from skeletal calcium?
If the controversy is about consuming gelatin from animal bones. Is chicken soup allowed? When I was a child, the sign of a good pot of soup (any kind), was whether or not it gelled in the fridge.
Almost done. Bear with me. I don't think animal protein is used in jelly beans. Corn starch it is.
And for vegetarians, i am not sure of the dividing lines between one type of vegetarian and another. But my nephew considers himself a vegan. He does not use eggs butter, cream. Is that right. However he drives a very expensive car. And wears 500 dollar designer shoes. I am sure neither the interior of his car or his foot attire is vinyl.
I am not a vegetarian, working on that. Hope to get there before this life is done.
In the meantime the greedy food industry wastes nothing.

In fact, food itself is completely, totally wasted. Literally. But even that is not entirely true any longer. I have read that some are using human waste for fertizler. Now that is something to roll our eyes over.

Glad to meet you too Christine.

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I gather that this topic is more to do with the symbolism in the vid and to some extent with gelatin. Are you vegetarian?

DeDukshyn, I fail to see in what sense waste material from animal bones is very healthy.

Then you probably also fail to see the excellent spectrum of nutrients that also exist in bones. In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.

The western diet "cuture" is programmed to process the crap out of everything, and "purify" everything. The fact is Vitamin C works better in your body as part of a bioflavanoid complex - as would be found in nature in whole fruit. Many of the most nutritious parts of plants and animals are removed during processing and consumption for purely aesthetic, cultural, and profit purposes.

I am not a big fan of harvesting animals for food the way we do, but what I say is the truth regardless; and partly the reason we have a health epidemic spreading across the west ... time for humanity to take a few steps back to a simpler way ...

My 2 cents ;)

Thanks for elaborating DeDukshyn.

I guess the thing is understanding in what way that this part of the animal that is - as portrayed above - considered waste material by the food industry (which nonetheless will make gelatin from it) has superior health benefits to the other parts of the animal that are sold separately and come on our plates visibly (that is:not in hidden form as here with the gummy bears).

Some animals have very rich livers. And then my question to you is: is the material in/from the bones healthier/as healthy as, for instance, the liver and if so: why are (grinded) bones not sold next to the liver.

Gelatin nutrient information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelatin#Medical_and_nutritional_properties

Grinded bones are now sold as nutritional supplements (http://www.aor.ca/products-page/products-list/ortho%e2%80%a2bone-ultra/), for the non-vegetarians, that is. (see my above post - on examples or go down to your health food stores and look for calcium / bone supplements made with MCHC (aka MCHA or OHA -- lots of different names - same thing).

Vegetarians don't really have this nutrient option.

You can buy bones from the grocery store in the meat section (at least ay my local Safeway). However - these are usually sold for soups - as soups are often created from boiled bones -- for both flavour and for the bone's nutrients).

Bones and livers do not have the same nutrients -- bones have balanced levels of nutrients that are used by your bones, to help keep proper PH in the body, and to assist in the generation of new bone when needed. I laugh at people who take loads of calcium and expect anything more than calcified soft tissues (a disease). Bones are made from a certain ratio of many different minerals and if you body is deficient in even one -- all the calcium in the world will just cause your body damage. It is this balanced essential mineral (and protein) complex that give bones their nutrients. The liver is something different altogether.

Thank you, DeDukshyn.

[Akasha]

Grinded bones are now sold as nutritional supplements (http://www.aor.ca/products-page/products-list/ortho%e2%80%a2bone-ultra/), for the non-vegetarians, that is. (see my above post - on examples or go down to your health food stores and look for calcium / bone supplements made with MCHC (aka MCHA or OHA -- lots of different names - same thing).

Vegetarians don't really have this nutrient option.

Here's a 95 year old (!!!!!) vegetarian yoga instructor that, I suspect, might not be too concerned.

GO GIRL!!!!!!

CQYHDVyBh-8

[TargeT]

I gather that this topic is more to do with the symbolism in the vid and to some extent with gelatin. Are you vegetarian?

DeDukshyn, I fail to see in what sense waste material from animal bones is very healthy.

Then you probably also fail to see the excellent spectrum of nutrients that also exist in bones. In fact, the best and most balanced form of calcium for your bones is a nutritional complex called MCHC - in simpler terms - powdered whole bone. This contains all the exact right nutrients in the exact right ratios to assist your body in the bone rebuilding process if you have degenerative bone issues such as osteoporosis.

The western diet "culture" is programmed to process the crap out of everything, and "purify" everything. The fact is Vitamin C works better in your body as part of a bioflavanoid complex - as would be found in nature in whole fruit. Many of the most nutritious parts of plants and animals are removed during processing and consumption for purely aesthetic, cultural, and profit purposes.

I am not a big fan of harvesting animals for food the way we do, but what I say is the truth regardless; and partly the reason we have a health epidemic spreading across the west ... time for humanity to take a few steps back to a simpler way ...

My 2 cents ;)

lets not even go into how EXTREMELY healthy animal intestines (any organ really) are (refereed to as offal) & how western culture mostly just eats muscle and misses out on these rich sources of bio-available nutrition .

[DeDukshyn]

Grinded bones are now sold as nutritional supplements (http://www.aor.ca/products-page/products-list/ortho%e2%80%a2bone-ultra/), for the non-vegetarians, that is. (see my above post - on examples or go down to your health food stores and look for calcium / bone supplements made with MCHC (aka MCHA or OHA -- lots of different names - same thing).

Vegetarians don't really have this nutrient option.

Here's a 95 year old (!!!!!) vegetarian yoga instructor that, I suspect, might not be too concerned.

GO GIRL!!!!!!

CQYHDVyBh-8

That's great! If your bones are healthy, why would one need to take anything for them regardless of it your are a vegetarian or not? There are many therapeutic natural bone ailment remedies that are vegan. I was pointing out how bones have nutrients in response to violet's post and merely indicated that whole bones are used as superior source of the full nutrient spectrum bones require - as opposed to say calcium carbonate. Bones aren't made just from calcium, so if you don't have the other essential nutrients in your body taking calcium won't help your bones, therefore, for omnivores, this is good way to meet those bone nutrient requirements.

This thread is not about the "fors" and
"againsts" of veganism. ;)

[Akasha]

One farmer says to me, "You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make the bones with;" and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying himself with the raw material of bones; walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plow along in spite of every obstacle. ~Henry David Thoreau

[Akasha]

This thread is not about the "fors" and
"againsts" of veganism. ;)

It's not an advert for Advanced Orthomolecular Research either. :p

As far as I can see, this thread was started to highlight the horror story that is the bone industry. AOR profits from that horror story even if it is therapeutically motivated. Not very therapeutical for the the animals, but that doesn't matter because we're above them, right? I mean as a species we're doing a blindin' job on this planet aren't we?

[DeDukshyn]

This thread is not about the "fors" and
"againsts" of veganism. ;)

It's not an advert for Advanced Orthomolecular Research either. :p

As far as I can see, this thread was started to highlight the horror story that is the bone industry. AOR profits from that horror story even if it is therapeutically motivated. Not very therapeutical for the the animals, but that doesn't matter because we're above them, right? I mean as a species we're doing a blindin' job on this planet aren't we?

This thread isn't about the "for's or against's" of veganism -- everyone has hear your song and dance ... yawn. You are defeating your own purpose again. In fact your making me crave a big juicy steak. :P

[Akasha]

.....In fact your making me crave a big juicy steak. :P

Tuck in. Your karma.

[DeDukshyn]

Mmmm... Steeeaaak! :P

Yup, my Karma, so I don't need your judgements. :P

[Akasha]

Mmmm... Steeeaaak! :P

Yup, my Karma, so I don't need your judgements. :P


Many convicted murderers probably didn't feel they needed the judgement they received.

Whilst we perceive ourselves as superior and with the right to dominate and kill "lower" animals, we obviously wouldn't judge each other for such actions.

[Abhaya]

http://i1146.photobucket.com/albums/o523/zmw4/EE3D961E-F51F-4B7C-ADE0-3DDB4B847925.jpg (http://s1146.photobucket.com/user/zmw4/media/EE3D961E-F51F-4B7C-ADE0-3DDB4B847925.jpg.html)
Round and round we go

[DeDukshyn]

If you want to judge and condemn all your brothers as murderers, you'll not gain any traction in your overall pursuit. I don't care what you think about me, but I do care about your endeavour - and I would like you to be as successful as possible with it. :)

[frozen alchemy]

The meat eaters here really should spend some time learning about prions...

[Abhaya]

The meat eaters here really should spend some time learning about prions...

Im not a meat eater but would love for u to elaborate.

[Akasha]

If you want to judge and condemn all your brothers as murderers, you'll not gain any traction in your overall pursuit. I don't care what you think about me, but I do care about your endeavour - and I would like you to be as successful as possible with it. :)

Judging and condemning are two entirely different beasts. Love judges all the time but it doesn't condemn and neither do I....and to be clear, I love you, DeDukshyn, make no mistake about it, but I also love the animals so hopefully you can see where I'm coming from.

Ultimately, this endeavour is purely a numbers game and there are, I suspect, many millions on this planet with a similar mindset to you, fully conscious of the ethical dynamics at play, yet conveniently finding justification for continuing to participate in the holocaust........oftentimes fuelling that justification with the seemingly insensitive words of some overly-radical vegan ;).

In short, If you really care about this endeavour, vote with your feet, get off the fence and get on board because you are the demographic that will make this endeavour a success.

[DeDukshyn]

If you want to judge and condemn all your brothers as murderers, you'll not gain any traction in your overall pursuit. I don't care what you think about me, but I do care about your endeavour - and I would like you to be as successful as possible with it. :)

Judging and condemning are two entirely different beasts. Love judges all the time but it doesn't condemn and neither do I....and to be clear, I love you, DeDukshyn, make no mistake about it, but I also love the animals so hopefully you can see where I'm coming from.

Ultimately, this endeavour is purely a numbers game and there are, I suspect, many millions on this planet with a similar mindset to you, fully conscious of the ethical dynamics at play, yet conveniently finding justification for continuing to participate in the holocaust........oftentimes fuelling that justification with the seemingly insensitive words of some overly-radical vegan ;).

In short, If you really care about this endeavour, vote with your feet, get off the fence and get on board because you are the demographic that will make this endeavour a success.

Keep in mind there are people at all places and all walks on the topic. I do work on this endeavour, but in a different place than you and with a different target and a different audience. You have been given a passion towards this, this is great. I as well have been given certain passions to help make this place a better one for future families and the planet Herself; mainly different ones than you - but what would existence be like without variety?

There's a whole range of people still happily eating meat because they don't see the problem with it. These people may get talked down to by an activist in this area and called a "murderer" - their response will likely be "uh, no." Because they already came to this conclusion, and some hostile ranting by someone they don't know certainly will have no effect. Most people who do eat meat actually do think about it at some point and have to accept at least the killing at some point, be ok with it, and continue to eat meat. Your style won't affect these particular people much. So how to get to them?

By emphasizing other aspects of the problems with the way we eat meat these days, this is something that this audience can more fully appreciate. And in these days when "green" and "earth" is pretty popular, these are effective tools. My focus is more on sustainability , yours more on the cruelty to animals aspect. But we are fighting the same battle, from different aspects. And this is valid. Just because I am not shadowing your every thought and action does not mean I need to be a target of yours. There is a bigger picture to be respected as well.

My 2 cents ;)

[sigma6]

I do like collagen and home made gelatin/jello is my favourite food in the world. But I like making my own to keep the artificial colour and sugar out...

btw, that gummy bear"s a** looked and moved like a swingin' set of boobs... that's called sexual mimicry, and used often in advertising. shame on them... (I'm going back to watch it again, just to make sure!...)