Singapore-sized chunk of ice breaks away from Antarctica and is now adrift

[seleka]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/23/singapore-sized-chunk-of-ice-breaks-away-from-antarctica-and-is-now-adrift/

"A chunk of ice the size of the island nation of Singapore broke off of the continent of Antarctica late last month and is currently adrift at sea.

NASA satellite images taken on Oct. 28 and Nov. 13 show the before and after images of the break.

A crack was first detected in the pine island glacier years ago. Gradually it deepened into a rift and now, a full detachment from the continental mass.

Scientists say the city-sized iceberg measures roughly 35 by 20 km. (22 by 12 mi.) and that it is anybody’s guess whether the iceberg will stay trapped in Pine Island bay or get set adrift in the Southern Ocean. "

[Hervé]

Perspectives... what makes the "news" and what doesn't...

Arctic Gaining A Manhattan Of Ice Every Twenty Seconds
(http://iceagenow.info/2012/10/arctic-gaining-manhattan-ice-twenty-seconds/)
By Robert (http://iceagenow.info/author/xilef/) On October 19, 2012 · 10 Comments (http://iceagenow.info/2012/10/arctic-gaining-manhattan-ice-twenty-seconds/#comments)


More than the area of France in one week.

“Scientists have been all over the press corpse with stories of Arctic ice melt and doom,” says this article on stevegoddard.com, “while the actual Arctic has gained 750,000 km² of ice during the past week.”

“That is more new ice than the area of France.”

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/10/13/arctic-gaining-1-3-manhattans-of-ice-per-minute/

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/ice-free-arctic-gaining-a-manhattan-of-ice-every-twenty-seconds/

http://www.real-science.com/arctic-gained-new-manhattan-ice-minutes

Thanks to Laurel, Keith Phillips and Kirk Myers for these links
“So wheres the media cover of this?” asks Laurel. “yeah I know … doesn’t suit the agenda:-)”


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I guess Robert Felix could re-title this article, now, by a:





Arctic Gaining A Singapore size Of Ice Every Sixty Seconds

[Ellisa]

Amzer Zo- I'm a bit confused. This chunk broke off the Antarctic, which is a long way from the Arctic, and, the original post suggests, it will remain in the area in the Pine Island bay or maybe reach the Southern Ocean. Neither are near Manhattan, though I understand that melting icebergs affect sea levels world-wide- but I do not think that was your point.

[ghostrider]

they say if may drift into the shipping lanes ... sidebar - what if this was a test of some new weapon that displaces solid matter ??? to be used for a man made catastrophe , appearing as earth changes ... something about this story is way out of the normal for me ... I mean why now ??? has it ever happened on this scale ??? the antarctic would be a good location for a test run ...

[shadowstalker]

they say if may drift into the shipping lanes ... sidebar - what if this was a test of some new weapon that displaces solid matter ??? to be used for a man made catastrophe , appearing as earth changes ... something about this story is way out of the normal for me ... I mean why now ??? has it ever happened on this scale ??? the antarctic would be a good location for a test run ...

I thought i was the only one thinking on those lines,
always nice to know I am not the only one who is thinking possible shenanigans, brought on by the elites playing the earth changes card.

[Snowflower]

Ellisa, her point is that the arctic is gaining more ice than the Antarctic is losing. The media is reporting only melting ice and not saying a word about increasing ice.

[Flash]

Well, in my artic media are reporting ice disapearane no ice increase. The polar bears are reporting the same. And the inuits too. I don t know where you took this info snowflower

[Snowflower]

Check http://www.iceagenow.com

[ghostrider]

it kinda doesn't make sense , a big chunk breaks off and ice increases in another area ??? it's like nature is confused ...

[seleka]

it kinda doesn't make sense , a big chunk breaks off and ice increases in another area ??? it's like nature is confused ... to me it would be balancing if it is in fact doing that....

[seleka]

I found this site about the arctic http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

[Hervé]

Well, if you can read a graph, there is more ice in 2013 than in 2012:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/javascript://https://fwtinw.dm2301.livefilestore.com/y2pKALhRbDF-vmXSp0BxImvxUD4C9vyYTrA0CMtDdXg3eDeIdyywLROMj39KOlpaVJJHvgNbObgKeBXUdxnQuouC2QWHFI5rD12xOVUptxGDHI/Image-2013-11-24-13h-12mn-21.jpg?psid=1

[Snowflower]

Flash, it's another example of the PTB lies. First, it isn't atmospheric warming causing temp increases - it's ocean warming, most likely caused by below water volcanic action. Second, historically, this kind of warming leads to an ice age, and that is exactly what is happening. I think that northern Europe is becoming the new arctic as the magnetic north pole continues to drift in that direction. The melting at the current north pole is probably caused by volcanoes, while increasing ice elsewhere (as magnetic north moves) is probably because the current from the magnetosphere is pulling the cold of deep space closer to the earth in that toroid vortex. All of this is just my speculation to explain shifting climate change, of course.

[Hervé]

Amzer Zo- I'm a bit confused. This chunk broke off the Antarctic, which is a long way from the Arctic, and, the original post suggests, it will remain in the area in the Pine Island bay or maybe reach the Southern Ocean. Neither are near Manhattan, though I understand that melting icebergs affect sea levels world-wide- but I do not think that was your point.

As the intro to my post mentions, said post points to what makes the "news"... or doesn't...

Most people heard of the previous "Manhattan" size chunk of ice (http://www.sott.net/article/151850-Western-Antarctic-Ice-Chunk-Collapses) which fell off in the Antarctic in order to fuel the global warming scam... anyone heard of ice forming and its speed?

Well, this time we have a "Singapore" ice chunk that fell off... to "fuel"... what?

They also omit mentioning that there's a lot of volcanic activity going on under the ice in the Antarctic...

Active Volcano Discovered Under Antarctic Ice Sheet (http://www.livescience.com/41262-west-antarctica-new-volcano-discovered.html)

The following, too, didn't make much splash in the "news":


From: http://notrickszone.com/2013/11/22/austrian-meteorologists-stupefied-into-silence-data-from-alps-show-marked-cooling-over-last-2-3-decades/


Austrian Meteorologists Stupefied Into Silence! Data From Alps Show Marked Cooling Over Last 2-3 Decades! (http://notrickszone.com/2013/11/22/austrian-meteorologists-stupefied-into-silence-data-from-alps-show-marked-cooling-over-last-2-3-decades/)

By P Gosselin (http://notrickszone.com/author/admin/) on 22. November 2013

Perhaps you’ve been wondering why the alarmists have been so shrill lately? It’s not because the climate is overheating, to the contrary it’s beginning to cool – and so their sham is about to be blown out into the open for everyone to see.


http://notrickszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Alps-public-domain-photo.jpg (http://notrickszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Alps-public-domain-photo.jpg)

Austrian meteorological data show that European Alps have been cooling, at times massively, over the last 20 years. Public domain photo.

Evaluated data from the Austrian ZAMG meteorological institute now unmistakably show that the Alps have been cooling over the last 20 years and longer, “at some places massively“ thus crassly contradicting all the loud claims, projections, and model sceanrios made earlier by global warming scientists.

German meteorologist Dominik Jung reports on the data he himself evaluated from the European Alps and concludes at the German-language Huffington Post here (http://www.huffingtonpost.de/dominik-jung/die-alpen-trotzen-der-kli_b_4300905.html?utm_hp_ref=tw):
We are obviously very far away from milder winters. The trend actually is moving in the opposite direction! A few years ago climatologists advised winter sports locations in the Alps to reduce their investments in winter sports facilities – because of the ever increasing mean temperatures, they soon would not be worth it. So we ask ourselves, which increasing temperatures are the ladies and gentlemen even talking about?”
Some places have seen “massive cooling”
According to an expert review conducted by the Zentralanstalt für Meteorologie und Geodynamik (ZAMG), the Austrian state weather service, using weather data from the last 20 years or more: “Winters there indeed are shown to have gotten colder over the last 20 years, and in some places quite massively. The last two winters at Kitzbühel were in fact the coldest of the last 20 years.”

Jung then writes that also four other high elevation stations in the Alps were assessed: Zugspitze in Germany, Schmittenhöhe in Austria, Sonnblick in Austria and Säntis in Switzerland. Result:
They all yielded the same amazing result: Winters in the Alps over the last decades have become significantly colder, the data show.”
Jung writes that data from extra long datasets from 20 to 30 years were examined, “just like climatologists always insist.”

Jung then informs readers that he asked the Austrian meteorological experts on site what they thought of the results. According to Jung, the reaction was either dead silence induced by shock, or attempts to downplay the results. Had the data shown warming instead, then of course we would be hearing just the opposite of silence and downplaying…we’d be hearing the hysterical screams of bloody climate murder!

Humiliated science
Jung speculates that the reason meteorologists and climatologists don’t want to hear about the results is because “it doesn’t fit with their world view.” After all, just a few years ago they were cock-sure about their predictions of winters without snow and that skiing was only going to be possible at extremely high elevations. Science just possibly could not be humiliated to a greater extent.

Near the end of his Huffington Post essay, Jung comments that it appears that “climate warming has become a religion. Those belonging to it do not tolerate new findings“, even those that stem from solid observations and measurements.

Meteorologist Jung concludes that it’s almost scandalous that the responsible authorities are simply ignoring these findings.

[panopticon]

I found this site about the arctic http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Thank you for the link Karika.

The quick look I had at the site was very interesting.

I notice it provides access to information on sea ice thickness as well as the various anomalies the occur within the Northern & Southern Hemisphere in it's Easy-to-use Data Products (http://nsidc.org/data/easytouse.html) section.

The Sea Ice Index (http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/) page led to a nifty page (nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/archives/image_select.html) that shows data since ~1980.

Plus there's a pretty cool photo search feature (http://nsidc.org/cgi-bin/glacier_photos/glacier_photo_search.pl) there of glaciers. Always a sucker for a good photo search me. ;)

Very nice.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[Lifebringer]

It's possible because of the global shift and or one or more sun issues coming up, that perhaps Antarctic is facing the hot side Nibiru and others are coming up on and melting the southern region before the perihelion, then the temps stabilize while it's behind the sun, then the seasonal winds and temps return and refreeze, before it comes back around and faces the planet whizzing by?

That would confuse us, but not our planet, that has faced this before. The season for ice melt, may not just be the summer months according to equatorial lines of the planet, it the gradual shifting of say 15=20 miles per day in the northern hemisphere. It may also have faster increases of icemelt as this heavenly body procession proceeds. If the southern oceans are exposed to the temperature increases of the brown dwarf's heat, then perhaps that's the reason for the rapid melting.

[Lifebringer]

Just goes to show you, it may not be the upper seasonal or just the carbon, but heavenly bodies moving about and since what happened to Mars isn't being talked about on National news, I've come to the conclusion the biggest meanest middle finger is about to be pulled out on the human population. To deny any changes even if carbon contributes, the differences and loss of growing season weeks that would make people ask the question of "what the heck is going on" they deny it all, and then claim it's because of NASA's budget. Well they knew in enough time to build bunkers for themselves and stock them. They knew in enough time before they pillaged the people in both Republican recessions. What did they do with all that money from SS Trust they borrowed? 1.7 trillion plus interest and 6 generations of wealth? Left had to cut 20& from the medical coverage in our SS Trust, which made the seniors unable to buy medicine or take it properly splitting pills. The pills 15 dollar charge to the patient, and the cost of making it, 0.03 cents. I watched that one on tv, but I know they charged me at the hospital 7 dollars for two Tylenol.

Healthcare Insurance CEO's better pray they don't lose their job, because they will surely face what we have to. Then again I won't stand in the way of karma, just warn them of it, and get out the way.

[seleka]

[/COLOR]I feel this is an important issue to you. I do not watch any mainstream news so I haven't seen these things you speak of. I did not post this so there could be a debate about global warming vs global cooling. If it is though, here is what I think about that. We are humans with insignificantly sized brains. Some of the humans have done things that mess with the weather and the mass distribution of the world. Gaia is making changes to balance this. It is neither recognizable as a 'cooling' or a 'warming'. It does not have to "Fire OR Ice" as the special I saw on Science channel had as its lead-in phrase and picture. Changes and balance are true and we can know this. Some places that are really hot have gotten cooler, and some places that have traditionally been known as cold are warming. Wasn't the Sahara Desert once lush, with a sea? Changes are the important thing to notice for our small shortsighted human brains. I couldn't quote anyone, it said fatal error for length... I think it was Amzers post I was reading when I wrote this.

[seleka]

hey it told me it wasnt posting i fix it now

[Ernie Nemeth]

One day soon, we will come to understand the true workings of our planet and its climate. Ice ages are a mystery to scientists, and so they talk about mini ice ages and two kilometers of ice on the North American continent far south of the great lakes, etc. But no one knows why or how. There are theories but no hard and fast proof. Soon it will be understood how so-called ice ages really happen and then we can look at why such drastic movements of the lithosphere happen in the first place.
Antarctica was ice free some few thousand years ago. Indirect proof lies in the Pier Reis maps (prolly spelled it wrong, no matter). The map shows the outline of the Antarctic coast as if there was no ice, and they are only copies of even more ancient maps. Unless the ancients had mapping technologies we have only developed in the last few decades, Antarctica had to be ice free far later than the millions of years proposed by our scientists using the drifting tectonic plate theory.
But don't take my word for it of course, just ask an expert - just ask Wade to refute these facts of mine, he loves old science, writing a book he calls an essay about it...(I thought essays were like a thousand words or less)