Russell Brand at the heart of his Message. Is it good ?

[Nanoo Nanoo]

A poignant Russel Brand video showing Brands true agenda. DO we think his recent videos are a disguise to roll out some sort of surprise attack on your soul ?

Ill let you decide


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_LHuII-jYQ

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[Nasu]

In my humble opinion RB's core message is RB.. Everything else just helps lead people back to his core message, like a never ending figure of eight.. He occupies that central position at the epicenter of the eight, the more people debate his "views" the more we all help spread his core message.. We're fuc&ed if we do or don't care, either way we are being drawn into his world.. Look at me waisting my life even contemplating this showman... N

[Joe Akulis]

I prefer to think that RB has evolved a little since then. Could be wishful thinking I suppose.

[Dennis Leahy]

...DO we think his recent videos are a disguise to roll out some sort of surprise attack on your soul ?


N
Huh? Is your comment "attack on your soul" tongue-in-cheek, Nanoo? Sometimes it is hard to read when someone is teasing or when they are making a statement that they believe.

It seems pretty obvious (in this older clip) that Brand takes responsibility for his addiction, is in recovery, AND is extremely sincere about helping his brothers and sisters get away from addictive drugs (including alcohol.)

Thanks,

Dennis

[Nanoo Nanoo]

...DO we think his recent videos are a disguise to roll out some sort of surprise attack on your soul ?


N
Huh? Is your comment "attack on your soul" tongue-in-cheek, Nanoo? Sometimes it is hard to read when someone is teasing or when they are making a statement that they believe.

It seems pretty obvious (in this older clip) that Brand takes responsibility for his addiction, is in recovery, AND is extremely sincere about helping his brothers and sisters get away from addictive drugs (including alcohol.)

Thanks,

Dennis

Yes it is Dennis, and its designed to crack the egg of those who tirelessly believe that all good messages have a wolf in the draw. Whether we like or dislike his delivery, his message is clear and inspire.

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In my humble opinion RB's core message is RB.. Everything else just helps lead people back to his core message, like a never ending figure of eight.. He occupies that central position at the epicenter of the eight, the more people debate his "views" the more we all help spread his core message.. We're fuc&ed if we do or don't care, either way we are being drawn into his world.. Look at me waisting my life even contemplating this showman... N

But did you watch the video ?

[Peace&Love]

I don't get what is wrong with RB... what am i not seeing here? Which attack?
He talks about a very serious subject from a perspective of successfully rehabilitated drug dependent. I think he done a great job in making some concepts clear to those who never had this issue. Dependence and withdrawal are very unlivable conditions. He represented very well the voice and thoughts of people that cannot verbally explain themselves as proficiently as he can.
Am i missing here something? So far, everything i have seen from him was a source of inspiration and amaze of the positive change of thought patterns he brings into discussion.

[Nasu]

...DO we think his recent videos are a disguise to roll out some sort of surprise attack on your soul ?


N
Huh? Is your comment "attack on your soul" tongue-in-cheek, Nanoo? Sometimes it is hard to read when someone is teasing or when they are making a statement that they believe.

It seems pretty obvious (in this older clip) that Brand takes responsibility for his addiction, is in recovery, AND is extremely sincere about helping his brothers and sisters get away from addictive drugs (including alcohol.)

Thanks,

Dennis

Yes it is Dennis, and its designed to crack the egg of those who tirelessly believe that all good messages have a wolf in the draw. Whether we like or dislike his delivery, his message is clear and inspire.

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In my humble opinion RB's core message is RB.. Everything else just helps lead people back to his core message, like a never ending figure of eight.. He occupies that central position at the epicenter of the eight, the more people debate his "views" the more we all help spread his core message.. We're fuc&ed if we do or don't care, either way we are being drawn into his world.. Look at me waisting my life even contemplating this showman... N

But did you watch the video ?

I did. He clearly is impassioned by his experience within this cause, but again, in my humble opinion, it is all designed to illuminate his core message.. This does not negate the importance of the topics, just it's delivery. IMO...x.. N

[Anchor]

I can't work out what your point is Nanoo.

Russell Brand is an individual with an opinion - an opinion that has been forged by experiences many cannot claim to have had and personally I think that we are all the better for hearing it and deciding for ourselves.

In my view Russell Brand is a show-man "preacher" in the same way that Bill Hicks, George Carlin was. Very funny, illuminated, thought provoking and therefore illuminating.

These men and others like them were/are walking catalysts. I for one am very glad that Russell is here and finding ways to speak to people that are not so easily controlled.

I do not think he is an asset of the elite - I don't even know why I say that, its probably because of the context represented by this forum that something like that feels like it needs saying. I think the "elite" seriously underestimated Russell and his ability to cut through the nonsense they utter and the hurdles they have attempted to place in his way. He has played his jester card to perfection and works around the various webs of control.

[transiten]

I feel he's totally genuine which doesn't mean he is flawless or can't go wrong. Humour is a great tool to cut through to the essential, cracking up stuck thoughts and emotions. Liberating, energizing:jester: Well this was no humour show of course...

[Milneman]

Addiction at it's core has pre-determined physical conditions. Addiction is a symptom of a larger problem, and most people who go into 12 step recovery programs get so far, and can't go any further.

My opinion? He's behaving like an ex-heroin addict. Any ex-heroin addict. He's just got a public stage instead of a closed, anonymous platform.

Has anyone else noticed how people's suffering has become an industry in western society? Oh boy, that leads to some interesting conclusions.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I saw a few of Brands videos and truly enjoyed the message but also his delivery. He is a word smith however the words are quality and well placed in sequence to make sense and deliver effective synopsis. I did also see a few people making videos saying he is an illuminati puppet.. that the Obey Key he was holding was a super power key designed to keep Katy Perry in line ... not once did it occur in their pea sized brains that perhaps he is using the occasion to promote a clothing line ... ? when he flashed the Key To Her perhaps he wanted to remind her that now is a good time to mention Obey Clothing ? hmmm ?

My point is , regardless of who says what , the message can inspire regardless, that's just information.. so why super impose your ( as in those who do this sort of thing ) fear of being abducted or mind controlled over every body else by stating its a " Mind Control Blah Blah " High Tech Ultra beam me up scotty thing ...

I have heard people and even on this forum stating he is promoting various political agendas to suit a one world style take over of our freedom ... i feel sorry for these people. And i want to challenge them to finish the argument

If you ( those who say this sort of thing ) can state that Russell Brand is an Illuminati puppet and he is out to coral us all into a collective manipulation , then please finish your argument and tell us exactly how you think that it would be implemented ? what would the techniques be once he has us in his mind set ?

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...DO we think his recent videos are a disguise to roll out some sort of surprise attack on your soul ?


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Huh? Is your comment "attack on your soul" tongue-in-cheek, Nanoo? Sometimes it is hard to read when someone is teasing or when they are making a statement that they believe.

It seems pretty obvious (in this older clip) that Brand takes responsibility for his addiction, is in recovery, AND is extremely sincere about helping his brothers and sisters get away from addictive drugs (including alcohol.)

Thanks,

Dennis

Yes it is Dennis, and its designed to crack the egg of those who tirelessly believe that all good messages have a wolf in the draw. Whether we like or dislike his delivery, his message is clear and inspire.

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In my humble opinion RB's core message is RB.. Everything else just helps lead people back to his core message, like a never ending figure of eight.. He occupies that central position at the epicenter of the eight, the more people debate his "views" the more we all help spread his core message.. We're fuc&ed if we do or don't care, either way we are being drawn into his world.. Look at me waisting my life even contemplating this showman... N

But did you watch the video ?

I did. He clearly is impassioned by his experience within this cause, but again, in my humble opinion, it is all designed to illuminate his core message.. This does not negate the importance of the topics, just it's delivery. IMO...x.. N

I see, so you just find his character annoying ? i can understand that.

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[Kalamos]

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[Craig]

In my view Russell Brand is a show-man "preacher" in the same way that Bill Hicks, George Carlin was. Very funny, illuminated, thought provoking and therefore illuminating.


I hope unlike Bill Hicks and George Carlin that he gets to stay around a lot longer and gets into peoples heads whilst still alive. I got onto the other guys after their passings.

[Anchor]

My point is , regardless of who says what , the message can inspire regardless, that's just information..

Ok, well then we agree. How boring :)

[sandy]

Russel Brand is in the process of evolution and his first big step was the recovery from his heroin-alcohol addiction IMHO.

Being clean and sober myself for many a year now I can attest to the step by step process of not only working to be the best person I can be each and every day but accept and understand that this process is long and never ending really. It is the nature of being human :)

Russel attended a recovery Therapy program of abstinence which in my mind would also probably include participation in a 12 step program of some sort. One of the steps of any 12 step program (to assist oneself in maintaining a clean and sober life), is to help others who struggle with addiction. Most addicts need to learn to give also rather than take and this is part of recovery in progress.

Also if one has an addictive type of personality (can`t think of a better term at the moment) then one can jump from one addiction to another in the process of cleaning up ones life..................reiterating, cleaning up ones act is a life long process as we learn to evolve each step of the way. Evolution is not just for addicts, but luckily we for the most part often get ahead start due to the walls we have hit, the degradation we have experienced and created and the pain and suffering we have caused to ourselves and others along the way. You either get real somewhere along the way and deal with your **** or you die..........................................

The key is to keep dealing with it though and this is what Russel is doing in a VERY public arena at present, and I pray that all the exposure and limelight does no real damage to his intent, sobriety and what he appears so adamant about doing. HELPING HIS FELLOW MAN!!

[Timreh]

A poignant Russel Brand video showing Brands true agenda. DO we think his recent videos are a disguise to roll out some sort of surprise attack on your soul ?

Ill let you decide


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_LHuII-jYQ

N

Recent videos disguised as an attack to roll out a secret plan on our soul.....?
I don't think so..

He comes across as genuine to me!
RB is very eccentric although I think he delivers a great message for the general pop’ in his own witty and compelling manner, his status and influence are obviously on his side. I agree with his view on abstinence based recovery from addictions
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[Milneman]

Sorry, I know this is reverting into base crap that will probably spiral into non-relevant balderdash...
...but he is a hottie regardless, isn't he? LOL

[Kalamos]

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[Milneman]

He's a tool! We're almost all tools!

(sorry, had to get that out Somewhere. I'll be fine in a (cosmic) day).

Yeah but he's still hot. Ok....maybe not. The more I look, the more I listen, the more I see a paper bag coming out and going over his head.....OK This thread is officially cooked! :P

[outerheaven]

OK, I'll take the bait. :) In some of the previous threads, I cautioned others about being too caught up in the hype.

So allow me to reiterate: I never said that Russell shouldn't be allowed a forum, or that every word out of his mouth is a mind-controlled epigram designed to enslave us all, or that we shouldn't enjoy his message and be inspired.

My gripe with the alternative media/culture's adulation of Russell is two-fold:

1) He's not really adding anything new to the conversation, and therefore his "challenge" to the power structure is quite limp-wristed. What did he say beyond what everyone already knows? Yes, the world's power structures have run amok and own an absurd percentage of the world's wealth. If the '08 financial collapse, the ensuing bailouts, the ensuing unemployment despite corporate record profits, etc., didn't drive that point home -- how is Russell Brand going to be any more successful? Was his message really so powerful? I've already explained in my other posts why I don't think his message was powerful or effective, feel free to look them up if you're curious.

So essentially Russell is preaching to the choir. To the people who are dying to hear more acknowledgment of widespread inequality and corruption (that's many of us!), Russell looks like the new messiah (convenient name for his new show, btw), who, and I quote, "may have just started a revolution," with his flaccid remarks. Meanwhile, the rest of the unawakened or unconcerned population sees a former drug addict, a literal stand-up comedian, screeching about his yearning to implement what sounds like a brutal socialist regime. "Ha ha, look at the funny man on TV, dear, he took so many drugs he thinks he understands politics!"

2) His solution to the problems he highlights are massive re-distribution of wealth and a powerful central state. Is this really the message we want to push for our version of a better world? I didn't see this point get nearly enough criticism or skepticism, which is why I chose to speak up then and now. It looks like people just chose not to see that ... but that is the danger of "hope." When someone seems to be advocating for the same change you are, it's easy to ignore or omit the details that don't fit. That is why co-opting movements is a thing that governments practice ... all the time! That's why I'm saying be careful, folks.

If Russell is genuine, then I welcome him with loving arms to the truth-seeking community, to the many awakening souls that want to improve humanity and better our world. And if that is the case, I implore him to use his status and platform to push the envelope further. Go beyond partisan politics, go beyond capitalism and socialism. When you use those words you politically charge your statement and alienate almost half your audience. Please understand that the truth about what is going on in the world is above mere political ideologies, and will unite both "socialists" and "capitalists" alike.

Russell, I'm tired of debating the merits of your message -- if you're the real deal, hunker down, do some research and get to the root of these issues. Help us spread the truth and awaken the others, and not just squabble amongst ourselves about what role you're playing in this game.

That being said -- if Russell isn't the real deal -- then isn't this a fairly simple operation? Throw a few measly crumbs of "hope" towards us, and then laugh as we expend our energy debating each other about if they're really on our side, etc. Perhaps the idea isn't as laughable as you seem to think, Nanoo.

Just explaining my perspective here. Hoping for a good discussion.

[Haakon]

Seems like a good fella to me. He wants revolution and balance in the world.
Here is a more recent video of him.
[I]Newsnight's Jeremy Paxman talks to Russell Brand about voting, revolution and beards, as he launches his guest edit for the New Statesman
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Can someone please send me a pm me a link about embedding videos on PA =-?
Great thanks MorningFox :happy:

[Nanoo Nanoo]

That being said -- if Russell isn't the real deal -- then isn't this a fairly simple operation? Throw a few measly crumbs of "hope" towards us, and then laugh as we expend our energy debating each other about if they're really on our side, etc. Perhaps the idea isn't as laughable as you seem to think, Nanoo.


Good post thank you.

So in effect the problem is not in the message or the messenger but rather our in ability to act on it ? Because i agree while we are all debating it ( which seems apparent here ) others are getting on with it ( behind the scenes ) Where we are perhaps lacking is waiting for the flood gates and THEN ! we will follow ... That possibly what may happen and the current trends globally are showing this. Our problem is we are all waiting on the enemy to make a move ... while we wait they prepare vast plans and countermeasures.. i say hit now ! while they are still getting ready .. A huge rush would really catch them with their pants down.

I think we should forget who says what for whatever agenda or group. If the information is good and it inspires then it is good. If the leader of said information leads us to a Utopia but at the last minute asks you to , i dont know , sign over your soul .. then just tell em ... Ah no thanks. You see where the fear in all these good messages ges comes from is intrinsically in peoples mis trust of them selves. They mis trust in their own ability to spot a problem in the dance.

This is because of the indoctrine of Blind Faith. This causes one to have a once off qualification period then after this All Checks And balances are turned off. Thats dumb ...

I say embrace the good message , then be en guard and maintain it.


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[Nanoo Nanoo]

heres a good one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADJhErmJuoQ