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seleka
27th November 2013, 19:54
I read this a couple of months ago and it sure has changed my views on many things. Here is the link- http://www.illuminati-news.com/articles2/00201.html I am posting part one here to acquaint you with the material and for learning and discussion. I did a few searches and did not find this which surprised me fully, it is a very important piece of the puzzle of modern america in my opinion.

" Inside The LC: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation
Part I

BY DAVID MCGOWAN, MAY 08, 2008
The Center for an Informed America


"There’s something happening here
What it is ain’t exactly clear"



Join me now, if you have the time, as we take a stroll down memory lane to a time nearly four-and-a-half decades ago – a time when America last had uniformed ground troops fighting a sustained and bloody battle to impose, uhmm, ‘democracy’ on a sovereign nation.

It is the first week of August, 1964, and U.S. warships under the command of U.S. Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison have allegedly come under attack while patrolling Vietnam’s Tonkin Gulf. This event, subsequently dubbed the ‘Tonkin Gulf Incident,’ will result in the immediate passing by the U.S. Congress of the obviously pre-drafted Tonkin Gulf Resolution, which will, in turn, quickly lead to America’s deep immersion into the bloody Vietnam quagmire. Before it is over, well over fifty thousand American bodies – along with literally millions of Southeast Asian bodies – will litter the battlefields of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.

For the record, the Tonkin Gulf Incident appears to differ somewhat from other alleged provocations that have driven this country to war. This was not, as we have seen so many times before, a ‘false flag’ operation (which is to say, an operation that involves Uncle Sam attacking himself and then pointing an accusatory finger at someone else). It was also not, as we have also seen on more than one occasion, an attack that was quite deliberately provoked. No, what the Tonkin Gulf incident actually was, as it turns out, is an ‘attack’ that never took place at all. The entire incident, as has been all but officially acknowledged, was spun from whole cloth. (It is quite possible, however, that the intent was to provoke a defensive response, which could then be cast as an unprovoked attack on U.S ships. The ships in question were on an intelligence mission and were operating in a decidedly provocative manner. It is quite possible that when Vietnamese forces failed to respond as anticipated, Uncle Sam decided to just pretend as though they had.)

Nevertheless, by early February 1965, the U.S. will – without a declaration of war and with no valid reason to wage one – begin indiscriminately bombing North Vietnam. By March of that same year, the infamous “Operation Rolling Thunder” will have commenced. Over the course of the next three-and-a-half years, millions of tons of bombs, missiles, rockets, incendiary devices and chemical warfare agents will be dumped on the people of Vietnam in what can only be described as one of the worst crimes against humanity ever perpetrated on this planet.

Also in March of 1965, the first uniformed U.S. soldier will officially set foot on Vietnamese soil (although Special Forces units masquerading as ‘advisers’ and ‘trainers’ had been there for at least four years, and likely much longer). By April 1965, fully 25,000 uniformed American kids, most still teenagers barely out of high school, will be slogging through the rice paddies of Vietnam. By the end of the year, U.S. troop strength will have surged to 200,000.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the world in those early months of 1965, a new ‘scene’ is just beginning to take shape in the city of Los Angeles. In a geographically and socially isolated community known as Laurel Canyon – a heavily wooded, rustic, serene, yet vaguely ominous slice of LA nestled in the hills that separate the Los Angeles basin from the San Fernando Valley – musicians, singers and songwriters suddenly begin to gather as though summoned there by some unseen Pied Piper. Within months, the ‘hippie/flower child’ movement will be given birth there, along with the new style of music that will provide the soundtrack for the tumultuous second half of the 1960s.

An uncanny number of rock music superstars will emerge from Laurel Canyon beginning in the mid-1960s and carrying through the decade of the 1970s. The first to drop an album will be The Byrds, whose biggest star will prove to be David Crosby. The band’s debut effort, “Mr. Tambourine Man,” will be released on the Summer Solstice of 1965. It will quickly be followed by releases from the John Phillips-led Mamas and the Papas (“If You Can Believe Your Eyes and Ears,” January 1966), Love with Arthur Lee (“Love,” May 1966), Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention (“Freak Out,” June 1966), Buffalo Springfield, featuring Stephen Stills and Neil Young (“Buffalo Springfield,” October 1966), and The Doors (“The Doors,” January 1967).

One of the earliest on the Laurel Canyon/Sunset Strip scene is Jim Morrison, the enigmatic lead singer of The Doors. Jim will quickly become one of the most iconic, controversial, critically acclaimed, and influential figures to take up residence in Laurel Canyon. Curiously enough though, the self-proclaimed “Lizard King” has another claim to fame as well, albeit one that none of his numerous chroniclers will feel is of much relevance to his career and possible untimely death: he is the son, as it turns out, of the aforementioned Admiral George Stephen Morrison.

And so it is that, even while the father is actively conspiring to fabricate an incident that will be used to massively accelerate an illegal war, the son is positioning himself to become an icon of the ‘hippie’/anti-war crowd. Nothing unusual about that, I suppose. It is, you know, a small world and all that. And it is not as if Jim Morrison’s story is in any way unique.

During the early years of its heyday, Laurel Canyon’s father figure is the rather eccentric personality known as Frank Zappa. Though he and his various Mothers of Invention line-ups will never attain the commercial success of the band headed by the admiral’s son, Frank will be a hugely influential figure among his contemporaries. Ensconced in an abode dubbed the ‘Log Cabin’ – which sat right in the heart of Laurel Canyon, at the crossroads of Laurel Canyon Boulevard and Lookout Mountain Avenue – Zappa will play host to virtually every musician who passes through the canyon in the mid- to late-1960s. He will also discover and sign numerous acts to his various Laurel Canyon-based record labels. Many of these acts will be rather bizarre and somewhat obscure characters (think Captain Beefheart and Larry “Wild Man” Fischer), but some of them, such as psychedelic rocker cum shock-rocker Alice Cooper, will go on to superstardom.

Zappa, along with certain members of his sizable entourage (the ‘Log Cabin’ was run as an early commune, with numerous hangers-on occupying various rooms in the main house and the guest house, as well as in the peculiar caves and tunnels lacing the grounds of the home; far from the quaint homestead the name seems to imply, by the way, the ‘Log Cabin’ was a cavernous five-level home that featured a 2,000+ square-foot living room with three massive chandeliers and an enormous floor-to-ceiling stone fireplace), will also be instrumental in introducing the look and attitude that will define the ‘hippie’ counterculture (although the Zappa crew preferred the label ‘Freak’). Nevertheless, Zappa (born, curiously enough, on the Winter Solstice of 1940) never really made a secret of the fact that he had nothing but contempt for the ‘hippie’ culture that he helped create and that he surrounded himself with.


Given that Zappa was, by numerous accounts, a rigidly authoritarian control-freak and a supporter of U.S. military actions in Southeast Asia, it is perhaps not surprising that he would not feel a kinship with the youth movement that he helped nurture. And it is probably safe to say that Frank’s dad also had little regard for the youth culture of the 1960s, given that Francis Zappa was, in case you were wondering, a chemical warfare specialist assigned to – where else? – the Edgewood Arsenal. Edgewood is, of course, the longtime home of America’s chemical warfare program, as well as a facility frequently cited as being deeply enmeshed in MK-ULTRA operations. Curiously enough, Frank Zappa literally grew up at the Edgewood Arsenal, having lived the first seven years of his life in military housing on the grounds of the facility. The family later moved to Lancaster, California, near Edwards Air Force Base, where Francis Zappa continued to busy himself with doing classified work for the military/intelligence complex. His son, meanwhile, prepped himself to become an icon of the peace & love crowd. Again, nothing unusual about that, I suppose.

Zappa’s manager, by the way, is a shadowy character by the name of Herb Cohen, who had come out to L.A. from the Bronx with his brother Mutt just before the music and club scene began heating up. Cohen, a former U.S. Marine, had spent a few years traveling the world before his arrival on the Laurel Canyon scene. Those travels, curiously, had taken him to the Congo in 1961, at the very time that leftist Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba was being tortured and killed by our very own CIA. Not to worry though; according to one of Zappa’s biographers, Cohen wasn’t in the Congo on some kind of nefarious intelligence mission. No, he was there, believe it or not, to supply arms to Lumumba “in defiance of the CIA.” Because, you know, that is the kind of thing that globetrotting ex-Marines did in those days (as we’ll see soon enough when we take a look at another Laurel Canyon luminary).

Making up the other half of Laurel Canyon’s First Family is Frank’s wife, Gail Zappa, known formerly as Adelaide Sloatman. Gail hails from a long line of career Naval officers, including her father, who spent his life working on classified nuclear weapons research for the U.S. Navy. Gail herself had once worked as a secretary for the Office of Naval Research and Development (she also once told an interviewer that she had “heard voices all [her] life”). Many years before their nearly simultaneous arrival in Laurel Canyon, Gail had attended a Naval kindergarten with “Mr. Mojo Risin’” himself, Jim Morrison (it is claimed that, as children, Gail once hit Jim over the head with a hammer). The very same Jim Morrison had later attended the same Alexandria, Virginia high school as two other future Laurel Canyon luminaries – John Phillips and Cass Elliott.

“Papa” John Phillips, more so than probably any of the other illustrious residents of Laurel Canyon, will play a major role in spreading the emerging youth ‘counterculture’ across America. His contribution will be twofold: first, he will co-organize (along with Manson associate Terry Melcher) the famed Monterrey Pop Festival, which, through unprecedented media exposure, will give mainstream America its first real look at the music and fashions of the nascent ‘hippie’ movement. Second, Phillips will pen an insipid song known as “San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair),” which will quickly rise to the top of the charts. Along with the Monterrey Pop Festival, the song will be instrumental in luring the disenfranchised (a preponderance of whom are underage runaways) to San Francisco to create the Haight-Asbury phenomenon and the famed 1967 “Summer of Love.”

Before arriving in Laurel Canyon and opening the doors of his home to the soon-to-be famous, the already famous, and the infamous (such as the aforementioned Charlie Manson, whose ‘Family’ also spent time at the Log Cabin and at the Laurel Canyon home of “Mama” Cass Elliot, which, in case you didn’t know, sat right across the street from the Laurel Canyon home of Abigail Folger and Voytek Frykowski, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here), John Edmund Andrew Phillips was, shockingly enough, yet another child of the military/intelligence complex. The son of U.S. Marine Corp Captain Claude Andrew Phillips and a mother who claimed to have psychic and telekinetic powers, John attended a series of elite military prep schools in the Washington, D.C. area, culminating in an appointment to the prestigious U.S. Naval Academy at Annapolis

After leaving Annapolis, John married Susie Adams, a direct descendant of ‘Founding Father’ John Adams. Susie’s father, James Adams, Jr., had been involved in what Susie described as “cloak-and-dagger stuff with the Air Force in Vienna,” or what we like to call covert intelligence operations. Susie herself would later find employment at the Pentagon, alongside John Phillip’s older sister, Rosie, who dutifully reported to work at the complex for nearly thirty years. John’s mother, ‘Dene’ Phillips, also worked for most of her life for the federal government in some unspecified capacity. And John’s older brother, Tommy, was a battle-scarred former U.S. Marine who found work as a cop on the Alexandria police force, albeit one with a disciplinary record for exhibiting a violent streak when dealing with people of color.

John Phillips, of course – though surrounded throughout his life by military/intelligence personnel – did not involve himself in such matters. Or so we are to believe. Before succeeding in his musical career, however, John did seem to find himself, quite innocently of course, in some rather unusual places. One such place was Havana, Cuba, where Phillips arrived at the very height of the Cuban Revolution. For the record, Phillips has claimed that he went to Havana as nothing more than a concerned private citizen, with the intention of – you’re going to love this one – “fighting for Castro.” Because, as I mentioned earlier, a lot of folks in those days traveled abroad to thwart CIA operations before taking up residence in Laurel Canyon and joining the ‘hippie’ generation. During the two weeks or so that the Cuban Missile Crisis played out, a few years after Castro took power, Phillips found himself cooling his heels in Jacksonville, Florida – alongside, coincidentally I’m sure, the Mayport Naval Station.

Anyway, let’s move on to yet another of Laurel Canyon’s earliest and brightest stars, Mr. Stephen Stills. Stills will have the distinction of being a founding member of two of Laurel Canyon’s most acclaimed and beloved bands: Buffalo Springfield, and, needless to say, Crosby, Stills & Nash. In addition, Stills will pen perhaps the first, and certainly one of the most enduring anthems of the 60s generation, “For What It’s Worth,” the opening lines of which appear at the top of this post (Stills’ follow-up single will be entitled “Bluebird,” which, coincidentally or not, happens to be the original codename assigned to the MK-ULTRA program).

Before his arrival in Laurel Canyon, Stephen Stills was (*yawn*) the product of yet another career military family. Raised partly in Texas, young Stephen spent large swaths of his childhood in El Salvador, Costa Rica, the Panama Canal Zone, and various other parts of Central America – alongside his father, who was, we can be fairly certain, helping to spread ‘democracy’ to the unwashed masses in that endearingly American way. As with the rest of our cast of characters, Stills was educated primarily at schools on military bases and at elite military academies. Among his contemporaries in Laurel Canyon, he was widely viewed as having an abrasive, authoritarian personality. Nothing unusual about any of that, of course, as we have already seen with the rest of our cast of characters.

There is, however, an even more curious aspect to the Stephen Stills story: Stephen will later tell anyone who will sit and listen that he had served time for Uncle Sam in the jungles of Vietnam. These tales will be universally dismissed by chroniclers of the era as nothing more than drug-induced delusions. Such a thing couldn’t possibly be true, it will be claimed, since Stills arrived on the Laurel Canyon scene at the very time that the first uniformed troops began shipping out and he remained in the public eye thereafter. And it will of course be quite true that Stephen Stills could not have served with uniformed ground troops in Vietnam, but what will be ignored is the undeniable fact that the U.S. had thousands of ‘advisers’ – which is to say, CIA/Special Forces operatives – operating in the country for a good many years before the arrival of the first official ground troops. What will also be ignored is that, given his background, his age, and the timeline of events, Stephen Stills not only could indeed have seen action in Vietnam, he would seem to have been a prime candidate for such an assignment. After which, of course, he could rather quickly become – stop me if you’ve heard this one before – an icon of the peace generation.

Another of those icons, and one of Laurel Canyon’s most flamboyant residents, is a young man by the name of David Crosby, founding member of the seminal Laurel Canyon band the Byrds, as well as, of course, Crosby, Stills & Nash. Crosby is, not surprisingly, the son of an Annapolis graduate and WWII military intelligence officer, Major Floyd Delafield Crosby. Like others in this story, Floyd Crosby spent much of his post-service time traveling the world. Those travels landed him in places like Haiti, where he paid a visit in 1927, when the country just happened to be, coincidentally of course, under military occupation by the U.S. Marines. One of the Marines doing that occupying was a guy that we met earlier by the name of Captain Claude Andrew Phillips.

But David Crosby is much more than just the son of Major Floyd Delafield Crosby. David Van Cortlandt Crosby, as it turns out, is a scion of the closely intertwined Van Cortlandt, Van Schuyler and Van Rensselaer families. And while you’re probably thinking, “the Van Who families?,” I can assure you that if you plug those names in over at Wikipedia, you can spend a pretty fair amount of time reading up on the power wielded by this clan for the last, oh, two-and-a-quarter centuries or so. Suffice it to say that the Crosby family tree includes a truly dizzying array of US senators and congressmen, state senators and assemblymen, governors, mayors, judges, Supreme Court justices, Revolutionary and Civil War generals, signers of the Declaration of Independence, and members of the Continental Congress. It also includes, I should hasten to add – for those of you with a taste for such things – more than a few high-ranking Masons. Stephen Van Rensselaer III, for example, reportedly served as Grand Master of Masons for New York. And if all that isn’t impressive enough, according to the New England Genealogical Society, David Van Cortlandt Crosby is also a direct descendant of ‘Founding Fathers’ and Federalist Papers’ authors Alexander Hamilton and John Jay.

If there is, as many believe, a network of elite families that has shaped national and world events for a very long time, then it is probably safe to say that David Crosby is a bloodline member of that clan (which may explain, come to think of it, why his semen seems to be in such demand in certain circles – because, if we’re being honest here, it certainly can’t be due to his looks or talent.) If America had royalty, then David Crosby would probably be a Duke, or a Prince, or something similar (I’m not really sure how that **** works). But other than that, he is just a normal, run-of-the-mill kind of guy who just happened to shine as one of Laurel Canyon’s brightest stars. And who, I guess I should add, has a real fondness for guns, especially handguns, which he has maintained a sizable collection of for his entire life. According to those closest to him, it is a rare occasion when Mr. Crosby is not packing heat (John Phillips also owned and sometimes carried handguns). And according to Crosby himself, he has, on at least one occasion, discharged a firearm in anger at another human being. All of which made him, of course, an obvious choice for the Flower Children to rally around.

Another shining star on the Laurel Canyon scene, just a few years later, will be singer-songwriter Jackson Browne, who is – are you getting as bored with this as I am? – the product of a career military family. Browne’s father was assigned to post-war ‘reconstruction’ work in Germany, which very likely means that he was in the employ of the OSS, precursor to the CIA. As readers of my “Understanding the F-Word” may recall, U.S. involvement in post-war reconstruction in Germany largely consisted of maintaining as much of the Nazi infrastructure as possible while shielding war criminals from capture and prosecution. Against that backdrop, Jackson Browne was born in a military hospital in Heidelberg, Germany. Some two decades later, he emerged as … oh, never mind.

Let’s talk instead about three other Laurel Canyon vocalists who will rise to dizzying heights of fame and fortune: Gerry Beckley, Dan Peek and Dewey Bunnell. Individually, these three names are probably unknown to virtually all readers; but collectively, as the band America, the three will score huge hits in the early ‘70s with such songs as “Ventura Highway,” “A Horse With No Name,” and the Wizard of Oz-themed “The Tin Man.” I guess I probably don’t need to add here that all three of these lads were products of the military/intelligence community. Beckley’s dad was the commander of the now-defunct West Ruislip USAF base near London, England, a facility deeply immersed in intelligence operations. Bunnell’s and Peek’s fathers were both career Air Force officers serving under Beckley’s dad at West Ruislip, which is where the three boys first met.

We could also, I suppose, discuss Mike Nesmith of the Monkees and Cory Wells of Three Dog Night (two more hugely successful Laurel Canyon bands), who both arrived in LA not long after serving time with the U.S. Air Force. Nesmith also inherited a family fortune estimated at $25 million. Gram Parsons, who would briefly replace David Crosby in The Byrds before fronting The Flying Burrito Brothers, was the son of Major Cecil Ingram “Coon Dog” Connor II, a decorated military officer and bomber pilot who reportedly flew over 50 combat missions. Parsons was also an heir, on his mother’s side, to the formidable Snively family fortune. Said to be the wealthiest family in the exclusive enclave of Winter Haven, Florida, the Snively family was the proud owner of Snively Groves, Inc., which reportedly owned as much as 1/3 of all the citrus groves in the state of Florida.

And so it goes as one scrolls through the roster of Laurel Canyon superstars. What one finds, far more often than not, are the sons and daughters of the military/intelligence complex and the sons and daughters of extreme wealth and privilege – and oftentimes, you’ll find both rolled into one convenient package. Every once in a while, you will also stumble across a former child actor, like the aforementioned Brandon DeWilde, or Monkee Mickey Dolenz, or eccentric prodigy Van Dyke Parks. You might also encounter some former mental patients, such as James Taylor, who spent time in two different mental institutions in Massachusetts before hitting the Laurel Canyon scene, or Larry “Wild Man” Fischer, who was institutionalized repeatedly during his teen years, once for attacking his mother with a knife (an act that was gleefully mocked by Zappa on the cover of Fischer’s first album). Finally, you might find the offspring of an organized crime figure, like Warren Zevon, the son of William “Stumpy” Zevon, a lieutenant for infamous LA crimelord Mickey Cohen.

All these folks gathered nearly simultaneously along the narrow, winding roads of Laurel Canyon. They came from across the country – although the Washington, DC area was noticeably over-represented – as well as from Canada and England. They came even though, at the time, there wasn't much of a pop music industry in Los Angeles. They came even though, at the time, there was no live pop music scene to speak of. They came even though, in retrospect, there was no discernable reason for them to do so.

It would, of course, make sense these days for an aspiring musician to venture out to Los Angeles. But in those days, the centers of the music universe were Nashville, Detroit and New York. It wasn’t the industry that drew the Laurel Canyon crowd, you see, but rather the Laurel Canyon crowd that transformed Los Angeles into the epicenter of the music industry. To what then do we attribute this unprecedented gathering of future musical superstars in the hills above Los Angeles? What was it that inspired them all to head out west? Perhaps Neil Young said it best when he told an interviewer that he couldn’t really say why he headed out to LA circa 1966; he and others “were just going like Lemmings.”"

There are several more parts and all of it is jaw dropping.

norman
27th November 2013, 20:41
Yes, indeed, and the availability of drugs to fuel it all has already been quite well documented to have been government run.

For a while I had an idea that "the 60s" was an accidental byproduct of a black funding program. I'm now not so sure it was accidental.

The scale of it may well have exceeded all expectations though. Hence, the post Woodstock clampdown with a series of events including the 'Manson murders'.

It's worth mentioning that it all exploded straight after they killed Kennedy. Quite a huge distraction.

avid
27th November 2013, 22:06
Not to mention the deliberate violence promoted by the rap culture:
http://www.rense.com/general41/hip.htm

Awhile ago - someone posted from the music industry in the late 70's that they were told to promote this stuff - against 'the grain', he was horrified, as he realised it would start hate-wars. He left, but he was correct, this rap and sexual hatred/violence-promoting stuff has now become ingrained in society, We now have the twerking Miley Cyrus, the promotion of paedophilia, and that stupid satanic-worshipping Lady Gaga at the top of the celebs' lists! What does that say to our children - who is promoting this turnaround in morals and honest values? Why destroy a stabilised society? The MSM controlled media.....

Mulder
27th November 2013, 22:27
Yes, music and fashion is one of the ways the controllers change society into what they want it to be. Many traditional countries use religion to ban worldly music to protect their people from adopting Western Values. Many researchers like Thomas Sheridan have verified that main stream music is controlled as well as in East Germany, where performers were vetted.

seleka
27th November 2013, 22:39
...We now have the twerking Miley Cyrus, the promotion of paedophilia, and that stupid satanic-worshipping Lady Gaga at the top of the celebs' lists! What does that say to our children - who is promoting this turnaround in morals and honest values? Why destroy a stabilised society? The MSM controlled media.....

Those women did not choose that life. They were brought into it as children, through extreme torture and sexual abuse (one or more of her videos (http://youtu.be/X9YMU0WeBwU) show exactly how this is done). I post that video as a way to show the electric shocks, obvious references to a broken childhood, torture, being drugged while tied up. I recommend turning the sound off if you watch it. It is terrifying anyway. It is a very obvious nod to the one she was given to or bought by (like brice was purchased by bob hope as a child). They are no more 'responsible' for their behavior than an infant IMO. Gaga's daddy, holding her naked in his lap... she was raised in a mason's only building in NY... We will release them from the spell when we figure out where the signal is coming from (nod to They Live) This blog has some of the info on that... http://yoy50.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/lindsay-lohan-lady-gaga-mind-controlled-on-camera/

seleka
27th November 2013, 22:48
Yes, music and fashion is one of the ways the controllers change society into what they want it to be. Many traditional countries use religion to ban worldly music to protect their people from adopting Western Values. Many researchers like Thomas Sheridan have verified that main stream music is controlled as well as in East Germany, where performers were vetted.

Thank you. I put this thread out there because I saw that a large majority of Project avalon members do not know this, or they are ignoring it. I also did not linger on it when I first heard of it from the numerology guy on FB... I thought o boy, here we go again. I remember youth for christ meetings back in the day, playing the music backwards... and I still listened to Zep... but the symbology goes all the way back to the 60s and the beatles.... at least iron maiden and the like didn't try to hide their allegiance I guess? But I didn't pay any attention at first, because I no longer believed in an evil entity called 'the devil'. but whatever it is, they believe in it, and make blood sacrifices to it... Many of our 'heroes' and songwriters that showed us the way were actually initiates of the club....here is that bob dylan interview where he admits he "made a bargain with it, with the chief commander on this earth and the world we can't see"

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enfoldedblue
27th November 2013, 23:20
Evil Machiavellian geniuses at work. Anticipating and co-opting powerful energy and movements.

Looking beneath the surface reveals a lot about just how complex and twisted the agenda behind the music scene really is. Can be quite disillusioning at first when we realize that so many of our heroes were actually just pawns in an agenda designed to keep us disempowered.

Though quite fascinating from a detached perspective.

Bubu
28th November 2013, 01:11
Good post. An eye opener I wish. everything that is popular they join and corrupt everything we love they poison or destroy. So be wary of what you love most. "The ones you love most they use to control you". Was that from Alias? not sure.

I love music but definitely not the kind they promote.

I love music it heals me, not the solfegio music, say kenny rogers elton jhon bryan adams and many more, why should I settle for the tasteless 528 htz. I did try it after one deep puff, to enhance my senses , it's disgusting. another ploy from who else, to have our attention AWAY from one of the gifts of life which is MUSIC.

Bubu
28th November 2013, 01:24
And by the way not all the music is part of plan I hope you're not scaring us away from Music.;)

seleka
28th November 2013, 03:30
And by the way not all the music is part of plan I hope you're not scaring us away from Music.;)

I believe just as music was used against us, it is in the solution or is the solution.... just not music that is purposefully trying to control us or keep us from knowledge. There is a part of the ringing cedars where anastasia explains how her ancestor would sing a song and it would become the reality... or at least that is the way I remember it. Part of our healing will be music. I like the stuff at 432 hz tuning for healing.... and I believe people sitting around with guitars is great... indy music... music without words and not put out by the big name cabal owned companies...

carriellbee
28th November 2013, 03:30
I believe this to be true, but even so, spirit can use this music to communicate with us. I can't tell you how many times I have had some random song running through my head, then gone to look up the lyrics and found a timely and relevant message.

Positive Vibe Merchant
28th November 2013, 04:43
there are always this who do it because they have had the whisper in the ear to say I will make you famous, just stick to the script. But music as a whole is about spirit and connecting. For every one that is doing it for the money there are 100 doing it for love.

Carmody
28th November 2013, 16:33
I simply listen to other music.

For example, this, exactly, right now, as I'm reading, right here.

Note what the lyrics say.

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The first aspects of enlightenment, if you wish to follow what has been successful in the past, is save yourself first.

For if you don't, what you try to inject into the effort to help the world will have a near 100% chance of being skewed. It's difficult to help the drowning and unaware when your example is no different. You can talk with others about drowning but you can't effectively help them realize the existence of dry land.... when you don't even have any about/around yourself.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
edit: In this linked post, is a form of rebuttal of the words in the opening post, on the origins of Laural Canyon. Maybe not quite rebuttal, but a clarification in the reality of potentials, another viewing angle on the fundamentals of how things work.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65773-Thirteen-Things-Mentally-Strong-People-Don-t-Do&p=762501&viewfull=1#post762501

Robin
28th November 2013, 17:33
Thank you. I put this thread out there because I saw that a large majority of Project avalon members do not know this, or they are ignoring it. I also did not linger on it when I first heard of it from the numerology guy on FB... I thought o boy, here we go again. I remember youth for christ meetings back in the day, playing the music backwards... and I still listened to Zep... but the symbology goes all the way back to the 60s and the beatles.... at least iron maiden and the like didn't try to hide their allegiance I guess? But I didn't pay any attention at first, because I no longer believed in an evil entity called 'the devil'. but whatever it is, they believe in it, and make blood sacrifices to it... Many of our 'heroes' and songwriters that showed us the way were actually initiates of the club....here is that bob dylan interview where he admits he "made a bargain with it, with the chief commander on this earth and the world we can't see"


I have always suspected Led Zeppelin of creating dark, harmful music. Their lyrics are very mystical and oftentimes allude to the Lord of the Rings, which is a fictional account of our planet's real history. Also, I find their music very unsettling and erratic. This is because of their use of damaging tones and subliminal messages.

Thanks for posting this Dylan video. To me this is HUGE! It is pretty clear in the video that Dylan is alluding to the Illuminati. This also surprises me because Dylan's music is very anti-government and often very pleasant to listen to. I'm curious how exactly he is being used by the Illuminati. I've listened to a lot of his music, and although his lyrics are often cryptic and philosophical, I do not see anything that would harm an individual listening to it.

Perhaps his music is meant for the sake of distraction? Or to create apathy and encourage marijuana abuse?

mountain_jim
29th November 2013, 14:13
I feel quite comfortably in my opinion that the 'escape' of psychedelics from the CIA-run experiments to the San Francisco music scene was not planned, and when those in power saw its effects they tried their best to shut it down and scare every responsible citizen away from ever trying these reality expanding deprogramming agents.

You can even listen to a recording of Ken Kesey narrating his experience while being dosed for the first time as a volunteer at a hospital during these CIA-lead experiments during the time he came to write One Flew Over the Cuckoos's Nest.

He and others who got their awakening here spread the 'news' and formed the Merry Pranksters and with the Grateful Dead lead the Acid Tests, with their sound man making the goodies and their revolutionary sound systems, and soon that genie was out of the bottle.

I am one of many who woke up and starting looking for real answers thanks to hearing about and trying these substances, and along the way I came to find being in attendance at Grateful Dead concerts where these substance were in use among a larger percentage of the particpants than any other gatherings of the times made for quite interesting group consciousness experiments, and quite positive ones for most, though I found being alone in the mountains or on a secluded beach to be a better setting for real growth from these experiments.

I always could perceive a notably 'energy vibration' difference between the music scenes coming out of LA verses San Francisco, with The Doors and Zappa emblematic of a darker LA and The Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane the freedom-celebrating Bay Area scene.

Crosby and Nash seemed to be a bridge, as they were involved in both scenes as evidenced by the participants in Crosby's If Only I Could Remember My Name.

One of the most influential song writers in my youth was the sci-fi concepts artist Paul Kantner of the Jefferson Airplane and later Jefferson Starship, his Blows Against The Empire described a band of communal folks hijacking the government starship and setting out for a new world, free from those who would criminalize plant lovers (pot) and draft youth into their wars. He also was clearly writing of his own consciousness experiments, which I could relate to.

A Kantner lyric



Have You Seen The Stars Tonight?
Would you like to go up on A-deck and look at them with me?
Have You Seen The Stars Tonight?
Would you like to go up for a stroll and keep me company?

Do you know
We could go?
We are free
Anyplace you can think of
We could be

Have you seen the stars tonight?
Have you looked at all the family of stars?


and another example



Your Mind Has Left Your Body

Lyrics & Music: Paul Kantner

You have left your body be aware if you care
Your mind has left your body and for this one moment you are

Under the polar ice cap in a place we call home
How is it there white bear like that where you grow...

Now all of you come back to here and now elsewhen to there
Move on out the other way where...
Do you find yourself floating growing there

Chorus

Riders of the rainbow
Let it grow let it grow

You can exercise your mind on where you want to go
And y'can see the city lights flashin' two thousand miles below you

You can feel the sands of Zanzibar or pierce the nearest sun
Find out what and who you are and if you need to run


Chorus

Riders of the rainbow
Let it grow let it grow

There is one moment in your life and it can come at any time
And you remember all of what went on from the instant you were born
Thru your early years

And if you can fasten on that moment and expand thru the afterglow
You can reverse your mind in time and travel back to when

The earth was formed
The sky was born
And the universe began

Chorus

Riders of the rainbow
Let it grow let it grow


You have left your body
Return when you may

Save it for another day... beyond you

seleka
29th November 2013, 15:09
Thank you mountain jim for your post. I too have had many mind expanding adventures back in the day. I too felt the energy of the crowd at the shows... I was wondering that after finding out all this stuff about the music industry being controlled by a satanic society like did Jerry make some sort of deal (with the devil?) to get famous like so many artists say they did now? It doesn't feel right to me to think it even. Everything there seemed so special and real and good.

But then there are the 'symbols' we are taught about and all the pictures of the Beatles making those symbols.

I love Jim Morrison's poems too but I wonder if they will read the same way now that I know about MK Ultra, which he may have been part of, all of the ones in that article may have been under mind control since they like to use military children for that.

After chasing my tail around for a bit, I sometimes just admit I can't know and move on. I just wanted to share this important article that I read 3 months ago. I still don't know where the author got all his info from, I don't see sources listed.

Mulder
4th December 2013, 07:30
Alan Watt said the heavy-metal type bands of the late 1980s like "Whitesnake" & "Bon Jovi" and the fashions of long hair and leather were all planned by the illuminati. This implies they planned what happened before and after.

Mike Gorman
4th December 2013, 09:14
I recall reading an account written by a zealous Christian person that Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young were 'witches' and practiced bizzare magik rituals in the recording studios
to ensure their music sold, and laced the lyrics with magic spells. What complete narrow minded poppycock! Music is definitely a form of human magic, when it is written with skill,
sincerity and passion it has great power to move people and reach their inner heart. Yes, the Laural Canyon personalities are over represented by USA military families, but this is not
really surprising, the restless spirit of the times called to young people who were educated, military families tend to move around a lot, and people like Jim Morrison, Steve Stills, Frank Zappa
were bright young men, they witnessed their fathers type of work and disliked it-they rebelled against their upbringing-but in the mix all kinds of crazy links no doubt came about, we are talking about a very dynamic and turbulent period of time,
and the great pendulum was swinging as it had started to after the WWII and the 'Beat' characters heard their call-the pendulum has since swung back again and is not yet at it's 'Yin' zenith, it will swing
back again and the conservatisim will be again swept away by another rebellious lot of brilliant, creative young people. Naah, I don't buy that the Neil Youngs, David Crosby's & Jim Morrison's of that time
were under cover CIA operatives, or 'Witches'-I know music, there was great originality and creative spirit, and good things in that music.

Molly
4th December 2013, 10:06
You people give the Illuminati way too much credit.

Darla Ken Pearce
4th December 2013, 12:17
This is a great thread. Thanks to everyone participating in it. As a young woman, I was an observer during those times and lived in close proximity to Laurel Canyon. This was not, however, my scene nor did I ever meet any of these music people except for Manson's group when they lived at Spawn Ranch since I passed by there often.

Being a student of history, knowledgable of CIA activities ~ there can be found an interesting web of influence and circumstances that lead directly back to CIA handlers who roamed free during this period without any restrictions. They worked both sides, owned both sides, influenced both sides of every movement present that shaped significant events in all our lives whether we realize it or not.

Whether passing out "experimental LSD" at concerts, plotting to kill JFK or laying traps in SE Asia towards endless wars ~ every strand of their operations revolved around drugs, mind-games, vetting war criminals, and psychological overload. Rock music played it's role.

If it were possible to go back in some time capsule, one of the greatest benefits to our society would be to knock out Donovan, the Dulles brothers and a few other originators of the CIA (and other intelligence movers and shakers). Nip CIA in the bud. What a tremendously different world we would have today...

The escalation of the darkest of times began with CIA dark ops and later bloomed in Laurel Canyon along with many other places, affecting many other aspects of all our lives. Mark these significant spots for future reference. "If we could turn back time...."

Carmody
4th December 2013, 18:16
He and others who got their awakening here spread the 'news' and formed the Merry Pranksters and with the Grateful Dead lead the Acid Tests, with their sound man making the goodies and their revolutionary sound systems, and soon that genie was out of the bottle.


Really?

I might ask him about that. IMO and IME, that does not ring quite true. Looks like a standard case of apocryphal stretching.

Or, multiple aspects happening here, a combination of conflation and transmission through many people. There is more than one person in that area of the band's functioning apparatus/support.

norman
12th December 2016, 15:19
Mark Devlin: Music At The Crossroads-The Dark Side of Popular Music



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Published on Dec 10, 2016
Mark Devlin joins us to discuss the "state" of music (or the musical state): Satanism, Freemasonry, subliminals, reverse masking, and the culture of death.

Mark Devlin is a DJ and music journalist whose book “Musical Truth” is the culmination of 5 years of research into the true nature of the music industry and its objectives- from dark occult rituals, to mind controlled artists, and all points in between. His book shows how these agendas fit into the much wider picture of what’s really going on and how the power to change it lies with us. He joins us here to help navigate the tunnels that connect the ever-deepening rabbit holes of music and truth.

'Musical Truth' is the groundbreaking new book from long-standing DJ and music journalist, Mark Devlin. It brings together five years of research into the true nature of the corporate music industry and its objectives. The book shows how these agendas fit into the much wider picture of what's really going on in the world.

Bill Ryan
12th December 2016, 15:49
.
In the Avalon Library (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?89859-The-Avalon-Library):

WEIRD SCENES INSIDE THE CANYON (the full story of the covert creation of the modern music culture by the CIA in the 60s and 70s, all centered round Laurel Canyon in Los Angeles. This is unique and extremely important work.)


Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf (http://avalonlibrary.net/Bill/Weird_Scenes_Inside_the_Canyon_Dave_McGowan.pdf) (78 MB, 142 page PDF)

bluestflame
12th December 2016, 17:50
the power of music to stir and move the emotions , very unlikely for the elite NOT to want to utilise and research its potential ( for thier own advantage)

Enola
12th December 2016, 19:08
One funny thing I always notice about Jim Morrison is how ultra-conservative and classy he looked. And he was presented as this really wild, instinctual type. Not very close to reality, I think.

Sean
24th December 2016, 13:54
That Mark Devlin interview is good.

As an "industry person" myself, I find this subject fascinating, and disheartening also. Only in the last couple of years did I come to understand the satanist and ritualistic underpinnings at work. I've never been famous enough for any of the "inner circle" access as it relates to this subject, and completely missed all the occult symbolism encoded in film, TV and music because I had no idea.

Talk about hiding in plain sight, lol

At least, as I piece my career back together, I'm more aware of who and what I'm dealing with.

Bill Ryan
24th December 2016, 14:27
One funny thing I always notice about Jim Morrison is how ultra-conservative and classy he looked. And he was presented as this really wild, instinctual type. Not very close to reality, I think.

Right. This is Jim Morrison...

http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/img/Jim-Morrison-with-father-1964.jpg

...with his father, Admiral George S. Morrison, on the bridge of the U.S.S. Bon Homme Richard, in January 1964. That ship, which Jim Morrison's father commanded, was the flagship of the American forces in the infamous Gulf of Tonkin false flag incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident) that opened the door for the US to enter the Vietnam war.

Read more here:


http://hugequestions.com/Eric/TFC/FromOthers/Death-of-Jim-Morrison.html

DNA
25th December 2016, 17:03
Yes, indeed, and the availability of drugs to fuel it all has already been quite well documented to have been government run.

For a while I had an idea that "the 60s" was an accidental byproduct of a black funding program. I'm now not so sure it was accidental.

The scale of it may well have exceeded all expectations though. Hence, the post Woodstock clampdown with a series of events including the 'Manson murders'.

It's worth mentioning that it all exploded straight after they killed Kennedy. Quite a huge distraction.


I'm still digesting the initial content of the Laural Canyon deal, and I keep asking myself "what was it they were trying to create?", I think Norman, at this point your statement about creating a drug friendly counter culture to help fuel black budget enterprises sounds better than anything I've heard up to this point.
It's downright Machiavellian. And I just can't get my head around how anyone could be this evil and or why.
I shall continue to search for more theories regarding this subject, but Norman as of right now this is current best theory status as far as I'm concerned. Thank you for your contributions.

norman
25th December 2016, 17:11
It's not 100% certainly so but if I think it through, they primed the pump with mostly free Acid ( and probably very low cost to make too ) then they withdrew the Acid and brought in Cocaine to fill the demand for a substitute.


Another aspect to consider is that when the Jason Society came up with alternatives 1, 2 and 3, one of the recommendations was that if the population was to be reduced, they should use it as an opportunity to remove the undesirable or least prime sector of the society.

Putting a lot of temptation in the face of the population would automatically draw the "weaker" ones into a potential downward and out vortex. So does a feather bed of welfare over a generation. And lastly, for now ;), there's a huge potential for the pharmaceutical industry to expand their market with all the drug and degenerate problems as the "weaker" ones fall.

I can't finish without including the wreckage it all made of family values.