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ROMANWKT

29th November 2013, 18:58

Have you read the book that discloses that the elite have began the extermination of humanity in this part of human existence, that started 68 years ago and accelerating, because its not the first time, it has happened before

23911

So if you have read it and wish to express yourself of your feeling and your idea to a solution to this out of control problem hanging around all of our necks~~~~feel free.

Many of you already know, without having to read some more on this, please feel free, have your say and your ideas as to the solution.

ROMANWKT

30th November 2013, 20:41

I will start with this, then we move on.

Read this and understand that there is no-one and no-thing above each individual human being, other than the intelligence above and beyond us, one is, and then, WE ARE.

Before any higher order society, religion, or civilization existed within the star system we call the
Solar System; Before the first thoughts, symbols or words were ever conceived, drawn or uttered by
our higher order flesh ancestors; Before even matter itself existed, the idea of existence did exist in
the form of that which we call God, the Universal, the Absolute, the ALL, the Divine Unique Collective
Awareness; and

As our learning as a higher order species has evolved, so has our appreciation and awe of the
vastness of the world beyond our home planet when we think, write or speak of certain terms to
define the ultimate creator of the Universe. We have come to learn that within a dozen light years of
our star system, there exist several dozen stars.

The Homo Sapien species has come to learn that just within the galaxy known as the Milky Way to which our star system belongs, there are more than one hundred billion other star systems, with many possessing planets, or planets with moons that at some point may have or remain conducive to the propagation of life.

Beyond the Milky Way Galaxy within a wider precinct called the Local Group of galaxies there are
more than a dozen small galaxies and within a larger group called the Virgo Supercluster there are
several dozen groups of galaxies; Beyond the Virgo Supercluster there are tens upon tens of millions
of Superclusters of Galaxies within the small part of the Universe called the Mid-Inner East Planar
Region which defines our place within material existence.

Yet even as vast as our appreciation of the singular Universe has become, there is a unifying force
vastly greater being the unifying force of all molecules, atoms, sub atomic elements, super sub atomic
elements and unita elements being the Unique Collective Awareness of all existence that represents
the consciousness of existence between the ultimate Dreamer as the creator and the Dream as the
Universe.

It is to this unifying and singular force we and our ancestors have prayed. It is this one, true and
absolute Divine Creator of all Existence who bestowed in trust to all Homo Sapiens certain
irrevocable rights and obligations in perpetual remembrance as trustees for all life on planet Earth. It
is this one, true and extraordinary spiritual force that did give unto each and every member of the
Homo Sapien species an extraordinary gift of spiritual insight far beyond the measure and normal
evolutionary abilities of such a young species.

Yet for all that has been given, granted and delivered unto the Homo Sapien species, its very
existence and survival has remained challenged. Level 6 Life Forms of the species have been tricked
into believing for many generations they are nothing more than creatures and even less value than
other animals. Spiritual forces have also tricked and cursed our spiritual evolution such that even the
wisest souls of the species are confounded into forgetting past life lessons and returning as ignorant
as if they had carnated for the first time; and

So it has been that those of the species who claim to rule for light, have acted as the worst of
wolves; Those who promise hope have delivered only fear and suffering. So it is that many of the
Homo Sapien species have prayed that a day will come when the deepest meaning of our existence
and knowledge of ALL would be revealed; that a day would come when we would see an end to our
fears, our suffering and war; that a day would come when through Divine forgiveness, the war in
Heaven would end; and

Thus we have waited, generation after generation, age after age for this miracle of change. Yet all the
while, a class of Homo Sapien civilization has remained both entrenched and sated at fulfilling its most
base desires of control and wilful ignorance in abusing the obligations of stewards of the planet and
in causing untold hardship.

Until one day, when a living Homo Sapien being remembered the extraordinary gifts given unto each and every one of the species and realized that within their mind are the powers, the ability and the authority to end all war, spiritual and physical; to end the dream of suffering and torment and to heal the spirit not only of a community, but a planet and beyond.

Thus, one by one a growing number of living and deceased members of the Homo Sapien species
have continued to awaken. One by one the prayers have become possibilities and the possibilities
have become ideas and the ideas have manifested into form and action.

Whoever has ears, let them hear; whoever has eyes, let them see; this day has come. The veil has
been lifted! Death and fear has been conquered because the Divine, the One, the ALL, has made this
pronouncement and Covenant known. We hereby reclaim our birthright as lawful heirs on behalf of all
and their successors.

Therefore, let the united spiritual forces of Heaven, Hell, all planets, all Galaxies and all matter and existence bear witness to the Divine truth of words set forth in this most sacred Covenant of all covenants. That no higher order being, living or deceased, may deny its authority, its power and validity.

Stolen by Roman

ROMANWKT

30th November 2013, 21:47

For those that find it hard to understand, I will explain in more plainer language.

Who the fu-king hell do you parasitic bastards think you are, you fu-king politicians, you fu-king Royal scum bags of this world, you fu-king money grabbing greedy fu-ks of parasitic superiors full of bull$hit, you fu-king embarrassment to humanity. You had fu-ked this world and its population for thousands of years you fu-king Popes, and $hitheads with your bull$hit doctrines, you fu-king hypocritical bastards, your fu-king parasitic stupidity has gone long enough, your only right is to your fu-king self you pricks, you have no right or jurisdictions over any other person on this planet, you fu-kers have no right to put borders up between sovereign persons of this world you a$$holes. Your authorirty that you think you have does not exist to exterminate anything or anybody on this planet you bunch of twisted dickheads, everybody is sovereign, you are now, and will be placed as the enemy of the people of this planet you bastards, you will be removed from your hypothetical power that you $hitheads think you have, well you have not, and you will all pay the price for destroying this planet, its flora, and wildlife, and the ultimate price for the destruction of human health and lives, you are all fu-ked, you are all finished. Take your Royalty, take your Politicians, take your Military, and take your fu-king Bankers, and take your fu-king Law and Religions and shove it as far up your fu-king ass as it will go, we the people will finish this, you’re all fu-ked, if we all go, trust me there are people waiting to see that you will all go too, you haven’t seen nothing yet.

Warmest regards to all

roman

Tony

30th November 2013, 21:52

Sheer poetry Roman! ;)

Tony

ROMANWKT

30th November 2013, 22:50

I am proposing to those that are interested that we start and call it as STAGE 1, at this stage all we can do is to find ways of getting information about what's really happening around them and the hidden agendas that are being used against the population of the world.

Do you all think that this PDF book should be what we try to go viral with or have we got other available written or video information that we could focus our attention for going viral, the book is 23939 and any suggestion for a video.

Sending this book via any emails to all peoples , friend and families, radio stations interviewers, sending to web sites, opening a website of ones own for a few buck a year or month and just place the book that people can download, by you sticking your website on a sticky label everywhere you go, stick it on your window of your car, displaying either on your website, or Avalon the PDF book link, everything like this will help to raise peoples attention, that something is going on.

No lectures necessary just pass links for the book or other things that raises exposure.

The shop here is open for more suggestion Please.

Regards

roman

Flash

1st December 2013, 03:04

Kalamos

1st December 2013, 03:15

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ROMANWKT

1st December 2013, 08:55

ROMANWKT

1st December 2013, 15:43

I am completely overwhelmed by the positive response here, and hoping that you all had made the right decision.

Regards

roman

ROMANWKT

1st December 2013, 19:08

Wherein I will prove beyond a reasonable doubt, through statistical, demographic and comparative data, that water, salt and milk fluoridation have been deliberately employed by governments throughout the world from the end of World War II onward for one and one purpose only, depopulation, and that as a result some 30% of the lineages subjected to fluoridation have been rendered infertile and have already died out or are in the process of dying out.

This planned and scientifically-driven genocide, justified in the minds of our leaders by the overpopulation imperative, is a substitute for war, which has been made impossible by the mutually assured destruction of nuclear weapons.

Over the past 60 years, the depopulation agenda has grown into a global program that involves the vast majority of the world’s governments and the entire international community, the result of which there are few places in the world where our children can drink water and milk or eat salt without serious repercussions on their ability to procreate, the genetic quality of their offspring if they do succeed, their mental and intellectual integrity, and their general health.

If allowed to continue, the fluoridation genocide will annihilate the majority of mankind within a few generations and reduce those who survive to mental retardation and severe genetic degradation, making life undesirable and long-term survival impossible.

As of 2001, the war waged on us by our own governments has entered a new and far more destructive phase through the adoption of genetically modified organisms, the newest weapon of mass destruction in the arsenals of our governments.

This new phase was augured by the staged and catalytic event of 9/11 and has our rapid annihilation, in advance of the impending oil shortage, as its objective. The time has come to put our leaders on trial for crimes against humanity, punish them severely for poisoning us and our children for sixty years, and change their murderous world order before we are too weak to resist.

The time has also come to reclaim our bodies and our minds from government control and to use our freedom to exercise self-restraint on the reproductive front by virtue of a new found global consciousness that is devoid of prejudices and driven solely by the love for our children and for the planet we share.

Should we fail to rise to the occasion, we will deserve to be exterminated and by default allow those who could and did organize across borders, and who for better or worse did take proactive measures, inherit the Earth.

Kevin Galalae

Kalamos

1st December 2013, 20:45

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Rocky_Shorz

1st December 2013, 21:11

don't sugar coat it, tell us how you really feel... :whoo::hail:

For those that find it hard to understand, I will explain in more plainer language.

Who the fu-king hell do you parasitic bastards think you are, you fu-king politicians, you fu-king Royal scum bags of this world, you fu-king money grabbing greedy fu-ks of parasitic superiors full of bull$hit, you fu-king embarrassment to humanity. You had fu-ked this world and its population for thousands of years you fu-king Popes, and $hitheads with your bull$hit doctrines, you fu-king hypocritical bastards, your fu-king parasitic stupidity has gone long enough, your only right is to your fu-king self you pricks, you have no right or jurisdictions over any other person on this planet, you fu-kers have no right to put borders up between sovereign persons of this world you a$$holes. Your authorirty that you think you have does not exist to exterminate anything or anybody on this planet you bunch of twisted dickheads, everybody is sovereign, you are now, and will be placed as the enemy of the people of this planet you bastards, you will be removed from your hypothetical power that you $hitheads think you have, well you have not, and you will all pay the price for destroying this planet, its flora, and wildlife, and the ultimate price for the destruction of human health and lives, you are all fu-ked, you are all finished. Take your Royalty, take your Politicians, take your Military, and take your fu-king Bankers, and take your fu-king Law and Religions and shove it as far up your fu-king ass as it will go, we the people will finish this, you’re all fu-ked, if we all go, trust me there are people waiting to see that you will all go too, you haven’t seen nothing yet.

Warmest regards to all

roman

ROMANWKT

1st December 2013, 22:10

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Hi Calamus

I did manage to see the love and light you wish people to send it to their direction, I see you had changed your mind, your mind, your mind, your mind, hope you got that

Regards

roman

I didn't change my mind. My prayer was released. I was impelled to remove it from here. I still feel we need to "pray for our enemies", and not cast darkness and hate upon them [as there is already enough of that in this world]. God bless you brother.

Hi Calamus my young friend, precisely what makes you think that I hate, its a word that I have never used and its not in my vocabulary whatsoever, its is sheer anger of their arrogance as they would be the saviours of the world and humanity by exterminating life as we had known it, of absolute disregard as sovereign spiritual beings as if a piece of trash that they feel are in their way to their ultimate psychopathic endeavours and agenda.

I have no name for the intelligence that you so easily call God, a revered name that is a Dog in reverse, that the kind of reverend language that we use to specifically mean what is says in reverse, the love that you are projecting in the written word is evol just as it sounds, no reverence to that word in reverse and will be portrayed by the mind as such, evil.

No disrespect to you my young friend but you need to study more and you will understand the hidden evil behind all your application with words, I hate no one, and do not hate them, I am angry that I am so stupid as to allow such thing into existence, I am not your brother, I am you, if I allowed this, then you allowed this, we all allowed this, its our duty not a prerogative to correct this and bring into balance, that would be fulfilling a state of grace that you are expounding.

Warmest regards to you Calamus, and thank you for your concern

roman

ROMANWKT

1st December 2013, 22:13

Kalamos

1st December 2013, 22:16

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ROMANWKT

1st December 2013, 22:46

Thanks for your words Roman. I respect what you say. I'm just of a different opinion as to the reality we live in.

I didn't mean to insinuate that you were 'hating' here, just that there is a lot of it prevalent.

Hi Calamus

When I first became a member here, after being a watcher for many years first, I wrote 2 pieces which I stick and abide by, even though I have anger that I can discharge,then revert very quickly to the stance that I live by, in other words, don't fu-k with a mad polak. I wonder how different your reality is from mine my friend.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32896-MANIFESTING-IN-THE-MATRIX-its-all-nonsense-part-2

How different is your reality from this?

Regards to you Calamus

roman

Rocky_Shorz

1st December 2013, 23:58

Hi Roman,

venting through words is always good, gets it off your chest and mind...

you just said what most of us think, I have to admit I was laughing by the 3rd line, so didn't take it wrong at all...

When I get to that point of anger, power transformers start exploding in the neighborhood, cyclones, tornados, hurricanes whip up, ground trembling on the far sides of the world...

then I remember all those dorks in power, are nothing, they run the world for us and have messed up pretty bad...

they all deserved to get fired,

Where's Trump?

Rocky_Shorz

2nd December 2013, 01:29

Rocky_Shorz

2nd December 2013, 01:42

since all the politicians are just actors, how about we just turn government into a game show, Survivor politics...

each team trying to out do the others in running the nation, creating jobs, advancing technology and growing the economy...

at the end of each week, the TV network opens up for call ins for who gets eliminated never to be part of politics again...

they are replaced by lottery drawing to start the following week...

Crystine

2nd December 2013, 02:22

Put one foot in front of the other, and go where we go.

Mike Gorman

2nd December 2013, 02:28

I support all of your words Roman, the plain language treatise you eloquently expressed more, or less sums up the position we take in relation to the
'authorities' of this world-who agreed to all of their manipulations, who consulted us as to the division of power and the hoarding of all the wealth in this world
that rightly belongs to each of us-as indigenous human beings born to this planet we each own all the resources, the energy and products of our minds.
Yes, I share your fire, but be careful anger can be destructive and too often turn to bitterness-I have experienced this, and it can affect your health.
But yes man...more power to your Arm.

Kalamos

2nd December 2013, 03:12

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ROMANWKT

2nd December 2013, 10:08

Here is a video being shown on agenda 21 thread http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15816-Agenda-21-EXPLAINED-and-what-you-can-do-about-it, on post by Vangelo, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15816-Agenda-21-EXPLAINED-and-what-you-can-do-about-it&p=766107&viewfull=1#post766107

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It all shows you the amount of control that we will all be oppressed soon by stealth means, reduction in all phases of your life by stealth. its all to do with reduction of all resource and life, the future is not you make your own reality, your reality will be over, their reality will be your life and your children's existence, because it will end up being just an existence, not a life.

Regards

roman

ROMANWKT

2nd December 2013, 11:33

Roman, thank you for your links. I read most of it, and catch your drift.

I want to touch on a few points only, based off my studies and experiences; current beliefs that I do not hold on to, but use as a hypothesis for the hour.

IF, as you and I believe, that we are an Eternal, Indestructible point of Consciousness (Monad), why do we worry so much about what happens to the temporary manifestations of THAT, here in this 'blink of an eye' age?

I believe it is because we HAVE to remain attached to the bodies that make our Ego (Astral-Emotional and Mental bodies), and so live a DUAL Existence for now, while we are attached. So really it's our Ego that worries for other Egos in the world. But is that necessary at some point?

I believe there is a play of Light and Dark in this world, within the aspect of Time, and we kind of just have to DEAL with it [until we can fully transcend it, which might depend on a collective effort to some degree].

Identifying with our Eternal SELF, the I, is tough work to achieve, and then tough work to maintain. It takes patience and fortitude [to maintain].

Then some say that we have to help now change this Physical manifestation for the better. Toward a heaven on Earth compared to what it is today, and they say there are some 'Powers That Be' that fight this.

I've just recently come to the [consideration] (and this will likely change, as my undestandings do daily, and likely always should evolve or expand), that UNLESS one has reached a pinnacle of Spiritual/Mental Evolution while on Earth, they really have no idea what this World is really about. And I admit I only have 'ideas'.

Here is one 'idea':
The (physical, earth bound) Powers (persons) That Be are NOT in full control of their Mental Faculties, and at that neither are most people on this Earth right now. We are being mind controlled by the minute by what see, hear, and read, and upon/against what we have seen heard, read, and believed. You know this, you wrote about it.

What is doing the controlling? It's not a group of rich elite human beings, but, in my estimation, a Higher Collective Intelligence or IntelligenceS that work from those higher worlds, to direct things and people on the physical world.

There are thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65841-Hyperdimensional-Beings-Evolution-and-Sri-Aurobindo)s about it here on Avalon where some are discussing the nature of the powers of Darkness that hold sway in the Astral and Mental Worlds.

Many authors propose that there are intelligences in those Worlds that run the Show down here on Earth, and it's really beyond anything that most people can imagine or comprehend. You described this as a Matrix.

In my estimation, WE as a collective (Humanity) have no hope of freeing ourselves from it's grip any time soon (from the Matrix), but I also believe it's not as sinister as many believe. [B]The Matrix is system built by Collective IntelligenceS, run by Collective intelligenceS, to provide the conditions for our Individual Human Consciousness's (you and I) to develop and eventually join up in a Collective (UNITY), and become One Human Collective Consciousness where Every Individual is Awake and Aware of the Nature of Reality (all on the same page). When that happens, we move on! Maybe we go TOGETHER to the stars and maybe run this same show on some other system as a Collective Creator God, just like the Collective Consciousness'S/ IntelligenceS that are grooming us now do here. [These are just crazy ideas, mind you. That last part sounds off to me already, upon review and edit]

[... here comes more ...]

Maybe the Human individuals (and collectives) have been failing time and time again (cause for reincarnation and the rise and fall of civilizations?) . But maybe there is already a Collective, ABOVE the Mental Plane, where those human Spirits who've graduated beyond the Human Kingdom, are waiting for the rest of us (in the Causal/Spiritual World). And maybe, if we get enough Individual Parts to our Human Collective Consciousness that are aware and awake and attached to the whole collective, and above/out of the Matrix (of the Astral-Emotional and Mental Worlds), we can be a force enough to move on, leaving this Matrix behind (or redesigning it to a nicer place for further developing consciousness's and groups, such as the Animal Kingdom that is following us).

Or, as it may be, this Developing Human Collective (made of a Hierarchy of Souls who've graduated to certain degrees beyond the Human Kingdom) which is 'group and unity based' in the Causal Plane and so Above the Matrix, is currently working along side, not in unison, but along side the Forces of Darkness, the Other Collectives that as Collectives with their combined intelligences easily out smart us individuals, for the most part, as well as easily manipulate the physical groups on earth that remain separate by country creed and other dividing lines; they have been and will continue to manipulate us until we grow intelligent enough to individually figure out the game, and then some day rise above it collectively.

It's a Evolution. But it's being played like a game for some of these Intelligences.

But just how tricky are THEY? ... The Real POWERS THAT BE?-- the 'forces' or Intelligences in control of the Planes above the Physical; not these 'players' who they most completely mind control on the daily-- the ill-uminati, persons that 'were'.

They control even the good men who are confused into thinking that Men have Power on Earth. They might control the author of the books you've been presenting. But for what purpose?

That could be deep....
- to keep the lie perpetuated that Men control the Physical Plane
- to keep us in Fear of Others (ptb)
- to keep us in general Fear (of the material we consume, and our environment)
- to use people into embarrassing themselves when the Big Revealing doesn't play out as we thought.
DARKNESS feeds off darkness, and that is FEAR based, but necessary for development, perhaps.

But what if there was a good reason behind it?
Like the good guys put this info out, but why?
- as a catalyst for people to wake up and learn that what they are allowing themselves to eat is potentially harmful, as it is UnNatural (but is it harmful really?)
- to drop hints for others that there is a Cabal running the world (but is it how we think? Men doing all this evil, or are they being manipulated/possessed by Higher Intelligences?)
- to suggest, in an interesting strategic manner, that Depopulation might be needed for the further development of mankind, and that if WE don't control ourselves, THEY WILL (make conditions better, or just drown us again for 'another try')

I could play the Devil's Advocate more and say things like:

In the grand scheme of Consciousness development, flesh and bodies are expendable.

That this world has done all this before, for the benefit of other Groups (manifestations of consciousness) who had the choice/opportunity to develop their consciousness.

That it gets to a point that, if we don't get it right in all these lifetimes and ages, we have to repeat it again (this process of Civilizations rising and falling, for consciousness development)

That IF there is a Collective of Human Spirits, who've realized that all their individual human incarnations, and suffering therein, were a stepping stone to reach a degree of realization of being pure consciousness, in a higher vehicle, a Spirit Body; that that Spirit would look upon the grand scheme of human history and understand that all the suffering and TOTAL CONTROL OF PHYSICAL REALTY by Higher Intelligence was exactly what was needed for the said development of their consciousness. Whether it's an individual game, as you suggested kind of in your piece (that WE can go on out and create on our own), or a CO-OPERATIVE GAME in that WE CAN NOT GO ANYWHERE AT THIS TIME, unless a certain amount of us WAKE UP, or rather GROW UP and EVOLVE.

Some MIGHT have to be left behind to try again.

I can go inside to my Home, and not worry about this 'age', and the Powers The Be, and what will happen. An asteroid could come out of nowhere and bare down on the Earth, and I might just light a cigarette and get a drink. A pandemic might threaten myself and all my loved ones (humanity), and while I would relate to their emotions about it, I would deep down know that it cannot hurt ME or KILL 'I' (Our Spirits would survive another epoch) ... you understand.

What I don't understand sometimes is why some of us (supposedly awake to degrees) fret over appearances. I believe these things are out of the control of our earthly little fingers that type here and there, putting out these 'keys'.

I believe it is all a Game, a Play of Gods (intelligences), where Light (good) and Dark (evil) dance, but find balance from Time to Time, and until you reach their ranks, way above the Astral/Emotional, and conquering all of that Mental Plane where The Grand Design is the greatest and most guarded, the individual struggling here toward realizations of his own will have little affect on their Play here on Earth physical ... that is unless, as many good and great Souls do, they just accept the Words of Prophets that have said to Love one another (and that's everyone). The Golden Rule and that Rule alone.

Those that humbly give themselves to GOODNESS, and fully, will be Used by GOD, for the betterment of others. The Saints of all times (not just religious ones).

The GOD I just mentioned may just be that Ascended Human Collective I described, that is behind the scenes, doing what THEY can to help us (through inspiration), within the limits of the Divine Laws that only Men in their Egos and separateness really break.

The problem is all the fakers in the Astral and Mental World. They Own This Place For Now.

But maybe the Darkness is Divine in nature. Just as the Light.

...

I'm trying to figure it out (you see?), as to what we really need to be worrying about and doing for REAL.

Am I crazy?! This rambling may sound like it, or it may just present to some that I am deluded or being used, but this is the best I got; it's how it comes out of me when I try to think for myself based on the most sensible ideas I can find.

Roman, this may not be what you were looking for (or was it? ;) ), but I had to get this out somewhere. I tried many different ways tonight, but here it is.

Regards

Hi Calamus, you remind me of myself when struggling with unanswered question that used to roll about in my mind for most of my life, and still does to this day, your queries are yours, but we all share these quires right up to the point of death, why? its because you and me would be accused of dealing with the mechanics, trying to explain how it works or how its possible, rather than having faith of what other call the spiritual reality or understanding that one should just let go and immerse oneself into the light and know that God is, and just let God, that would be the ideal concept of a spiritual life, worry about nothing for this is just an illusion, let go and let God.

That then would be the ultimate goal as part of the awaken soul residing in a body in this reality. Now do you believe or do you know, thats the question, if I look at your expressed feeling in the writing above they venture on your belief, you start with I believe, I believe, I believe, we have to distinguish belief from what we really know, that may be easy for some and difficult for other to grasp the difference, when we remove of what we understand as a belief, how much truth and knowleage are we really left with, its not a lot.

Then doubt will follow one until ones death, and only then may our real eye be opened. Meditation and astral travel opens us to the possible reality beyond this one, all is assuming that its not the hidden part of our creative brain displaying amazing dimensional realities and is then the gateway to our origin, for no one has returned stone cold dead and and vouched for its existence.

So we have many contributors expressing the existence of consciousness beyond the realm that are from meditative states, astral experiences, DMT exposure, and dreams. so which is it my friend, what are you really sure about, what are your belief.

Regards as ever Calamus

roman

ROMANWKT

2nd December 2013, 12:44

Historically, the way Christianity has treated its spiritual beings, the way Islam has treated its spiritual beings, the way Judaism has treated its spiritual being, tells ALL.

We are and have been treated by these false establishments no better that a poor old chicken in our hands, that's being AWAKE my friends, there is NO respect or divinity towards the human race from these control establishment, assumption given out by these brain washing institutions, and the exposure of their behaviour towards humanity for thousands of years is historical.

If we are stupid enough to think that the government of the world and their brain washing counterparts the church, have any interest of humanities dilemma, you better all wake up again, there is nothing of God there, there is nothing of spirit there, there is nothing of divinity there, its just a bloody great con to control the feeble minded, which at this day and age of books and communication is their creation of dumbed down and stupid people, Theses corrupter must not be trusted, as I know many of you don't, but that would be the reason to not allow further manipulation and changes being made by and in these establishments name, as the saviour of humanity, they are in full control themselves by the controllers of this planet, stemming from previous civilisation, that they were responsible for, and the extinctions that followed.

Be very careful in giving any credence to these establishments that pose themselves as having your interest and your children interest at heart of the changes being made world wide, we know that that is not true, why don't you all start with AFRICA and then spread yourself around the world, and see what is being done in your name by the holy of the holies, the hole on planet earth the Vatican, never mind the Red cross and the rest of the famous crap, and more so to the wonderful international help with a big H which finances the whole extermination project, Bravo you all savers of the planet earth and beholders off God, carrying the torch for humanity. BS.

Regards

roman

ROMANWKT

2nd December 2013, 14:23

they can all be erased in a timeline step, but do we have anything prepared to keep everything in motion?

how could everything keep rolling if tomorrow there were no banks or wall street?

politicians no longer exist, news stations talking of how they all suddenly vanished...

what if, you had your wish, and everyone bad, was suddenly gone...

Hi Rocky

You pose a very good question that has been the only mental obstacle to the world solution for the people to take their power back, its about what would happen if the banks and stock exchange collapsed and the whole world economy was halted by peoples reaction to the corrupt and deadly dealing of the elite.

Yes its a no go immediately, it stops one in its tracks, it is a most horrendous problem, as this catastrophe would create colossal deaths and destruction world wide.

But, but, but, its on the cards already as we all know here, so what to do, no matter which way we turn, its on the table to happen anyway, agenda 21 is viral now worldwide, de-population is ongoing and getting worse with constantly new addition being stealthy applied for the speeding up of the inevitable casualties that we as humanity will incurs, those that have been thinking of going off the grid and those that are already off the grid will be stopped and destroyed, this is already happening in the states, control of water, food, and energy is about to happen big time.

There are no saviours here, except the people who took the oath to honour and preserve its peoples and families, that had been brainwashed or blackmailed by the corrupt system that their families will share the same fate that has been created by the parasites for the rest of us, that would be the Army who had lost their cause and reason, and are now the enemy of the world as the rest of them.

So what to do my friends, we could all remove ourselves into the spirit world that is so prevalent into today’s teachings by all the holy corrupt bastards that sow this ideology without an ounce of PROOF (oh that hated word proof) even here on Avalon, or we could just stop eating, drinking, producing babies that are not par with the elites super bloodlines of parasitic psychopaths, or , or, or,

ROMANWKT

2nd December 2013, 15:35

The whole world wide established philosophy of the knowledge of the spiritual world exists, but we fear to go there, we all love God, but we don’t want to see him yet, but willing to see him while still in the body, we cry and make a lot of sanctimonious expressions and lessons concerning the dead or those that had died, expressing their relief for the departed, as being with the angels and bygone relatives, the peace that they will encounter, but nobody want to go without screaming and squelching, begging for 5 minutes more, nobody but nobody want to go there, where ever there, is my friends.

If you had spent all your life believing what you had been told about the afterlife, what’s stopping you all just removing yourself and allowing others an extension of life, what is stopping all you religious and super spirituals from doing the right thing for humanity, what have you got to loose? Its only a life, just a crap illusion that’s all. Well there will be enough people portraying destruction, as Gods will, especially those super religious leaders of the world, but they will not go either, not without screaming and kicking all the way there, so what gives??

Well our Fate has already been written by the established super souls, that have your best intention in mind, they will destroy the economy, that means no power, shortage of water, no food in the shops, leads to the SHTF situation, then comes along theft, rape and murder, with the inevitable cannibalism, because nobody want to go back there, why??????

You’re all living proof that there is a higher intelligence, that there is a God, a saviour of our spices, just as the Jews did in the camps to improve their lives, arbeit macht frei, WORK MAKES YOU FREE. They too were sold on their belief that a God will save them from extermination, but no, a united people eventually put a stop to it, but here we go again, but did they not believe in a heaven, was reincarnation removed from the bible, that they will be dealt with in the last judgement, and not reincarnate, where do they get all this information from with nothing to substantiate one word of their teachings.

Well I am not surprised that the Holy see $hit does not want to go and show you “its alright” The whole Vatican does not want to go either, but they are selling this $hit hard and fast, they know the plans for humanity, but are not saying anything, why not??

Though I agree very much with Rocky that we have to be very careful, but we can be careful until the inevitable again comes and smacks us in the face, because its going to happen if we are careful or not, so now what.

Regards

roman

Kalamos

2nd December 2013, 16:35

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ROMANWKT

2nd December 2013, 17:27

You wrote: "if I look at your expressed feeling in the writing above they venture on your belief, you start with I believe, I believe, I believe"

You might have missed my preface:

I want to touch on a few points only, based off my studies and experiences; current beliefs that I do not hold on to, but use as a hypothesis for the hour.

And it's funny, as soon as I was done with my heavy edits, I went to sleep last night with the thought, "I should have replaced the word "believe" with "consider", which I will do later.

Roman, you've addressed me as your young friend, and yourself as an old Pollock. Don't mistake my 35 years young in this life as a gauge for my indwelling wisdom, and your more older age for that of yours.

I've been deep into Mystical Traditions and Esoterics since the age of 21 (in this life) having been raised Christian, then becoming atheist then agnostic in my early adulthood, along with having deeply been a believer and practiced at almost all the major religions, always delving deep into their Mystical parts, gaining all I could from them.

I've always left them behind as stepping stones.

Also don't consider that I'm a Christian (not that you do) because I prayed for our enemies in this thread.

Having said all that, in respect I ask you: Why do you think you are not really getting much response in your three threads about these books you are 'into'? books that have been 'out there' for a good while now.

Could it be that maybe you are getting caught up in something that others here might recognize with their Intuition as being just another PIECE of the Disinfo PIE, and one that at that is really pushing the FEAR to a great extent? There is Power in the Words in that book. It's a real brain-washer, IN MY OPINION.

WE know things are out of our control, but like I've said, my Intuition is telling me these books are not nearly accurate. Take that as you will.

Knowing vs. Believing?

This year I went through an experience like nothing I've even read about in books, where my physical reality literally bent and moved around ... like the Matrix movie. More than that, Roman, I was beyond Psychic for a few days. It was ineffable, so I'll leave it at that.

But what this experience did for me was confirm many of my hypothesis's that I've gained in Esoteric studies, particularly in the last 7 years.

So I do consider that I might KNOW a few things, but I still try not present anything I BELIEVE as fact, because as it is, I leave myself open to further guidance from whatever it was that granted me a taste of a Higher Life, that is my destiny if I choose. But as it is, I struggle with the Darkness that is around us, and all over the Internet, and I even now consider that whatever happened to me this year was direct manipulation from the Darkness I've described in my previous lengthy post.

If you are feeling Emotions such as Anger, which is based on Fear, have you really transcended your Emotional Nature that binds you to that World?

Regards

Hi Calamus, first an apology for making you feel that you are to young to understand the spiritual, as I do not think that, there are people younger than yourself here who showed more elevation that I ever could, so forgive, wasn't meant that way.

Sorry but did miss the point made about belief in your intro, also glad that you understand the value of that, belief is one thing, knowing is another.

I am very happy to hear about your mystical training and experiences and that you find yourself moving on, that's important.

As far as the book goes I shall repeat what I had already written in other thread by me concerning the book, this guy had told me and all other on Avalon website that we all had known for a long time, the only new thing that stopped me in my tracks was the 68 years, and the revelation that the whole of the United Nation is in kahoots with these bastards, and therefore having exposed that its a world wide agenda. He has great revenge on his mind, I do not, his goal is to pay back time for removal of his children with us supporting him, which I will not. if anybody read the second book SALT,MILK, AND WATER, he is raising himself for the leadership of the world and to take the chair of the united nation on our behalf, I do not agree, only time will show who will be the right person for that.

How dare you call me an old pollock, heheheh whats that, I said a mad polak, a mad pole hehehe

The only light from darkness that you and me and all the others will achieve is when we all wake up and take the ACTION to bring light forwards not allow darkness to exist, history agrees with that.

I am in my reality a very easy going guy, I have, and never had any problems with anybody,I am easy and always have been, I just will not be fu-ked with, that's all.

Warmest regards Calamus I think you're young and great

roman

Kalamos

2nd December 2013, 17:33

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Carmody

2nd December 2013, 20:11

What to do? things like this:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65868-Canada-plans-to-bury-Nuclear-Waste-Near-Lake-Huron

ROMANWKT

2nd December 2013, 23:07

What to do? things like this:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65868-Canada-plans-to-bury-Nuclear-Waste-Near-Lake-Huron

Hi Carmody

Well I checked the whole thread out, and tried to purchase a PDF file on brown Gas but their functions said for download, and waiting for email for download. I have heard of this before, thank for explaining how it works, its brilliant way to remove redio active waste which is not, and again not utilised by the bastards running this planet, there were other quite simple way of removing and neutralise oil spill cleanly and permanently, and again they rather poison the sea and an entire coastline with permanent chemical poisons than do this right, if that is not a smack in the face to the people they are supposed to be responsible, this is the real issues that we are dealing with, you cant waste your time dealing with stupid greedy local political morons, this has to be dealt with the core powers to stop this ongoing and constant destruction. So now what Carmody?

Warmest regards and thank you

roman