The Joy Of Being A Stone

[christian]

Arduously and devoutly seeking to achieve the supreme state, the highest frequency, the tranquility and bliss of the Creator, I remembered that the Creator chose to create all-that-is over not doing it. The Creator is more satisfied now that a seemingly tiny, meaningless, crude stone exists.

I told that story to a stone, that its mere existence is a reason for the Creator to experience joy. It was the best day of my life, and I feel that the stone smiled as well. No matter where I am, no matter who or what I encounter, there is nothing that is not the product of divine inspiration.

Seeking the supreme state, the highest frequency, the tranquility of the Creator, I imagine the joy of the Creator when looking at the creation—not just at parts of it, but at all-that-is. I imagine the infinite joy and how the Creator says "thank you" to all-that-is.

And I wonder who is happier now, the stone or the Creator? And I wonder who is longing more; the stone as it wants to return to the Source, or the Source as it yearns for the stone to become fully alive?

[mosquito]

Rock on !!:wizard:

[Bright Garlick]

Everything expands the creator, everything brings meaning to the creator, everything helps the creator to know itself more deeply !

A beautiful post Christian !

Happily Stone-d without being stoned,

Bright.:peace::peace::peace:

[Freed Fox]

Ah yes, infinitely wise Source. If you want an exemplification of this wisdom, just look at the food chain. NO WAY there could have POSSIBLY been a less savage means of energy transfer, right??

This is why I have been leaning more heavily in the Gnostic direction than any other paradigm, lately. This is the work of the demiurge. Sugar-coating it and calling for people to be appreciative of their current position is not a far cry from a Stockholm Syndrome of sorts.

[christian]

[J]ust look at the food chain. NO WAY there could have POSSIBLY been a less savage means of energy transfer, right? [...] Sugar-coating it and calling for people to be appreciative of their current position is not a far cry from a Stockholm Syndrome of sorts.


There is a less savage way, but still, all-that-is enhances the spectrum of experiences and is reason for the Creator (I'm not referring to the Demiurge) to experience joy, I believe. Now, what is important is to see the difference between joyful appreciation and blind affirmation. I do appreciate even the most "corrupted" being, energy, or thoughtform there could be, but I do not just blindly affirm of it or align myself with it.

Honoring the Source, I intend to make the very best out of my own discernment and personal power, I intend to allow everything to be while being the most alive, radiant, and empowered version of myself that I could possibly be. I may come in conflict with other beings that wish to take advantage of me; the fight that I'm then having is "out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing," to quote Rumi, it is just a divine manifestation.

I feel fully legitimized as I fight for my sovereignty and don't allow anybody or anything to prey on me, and I do not feel any guilt or remorse when during my legitimate defense whatever attacks me changes or gets destroyed. I do not go out to attack, but when an attack comes my way, the attacker must bear the consequences of my assertion of my sovereignty.

In a way, the most corrupted beings, energies, or thoughtforms even help me in being the most I can be as they nudge me towards it. The more difficult the conditions that I'm in, the more I have to hone myself to prevail in these conditions. Thus, in the entire Creation everything serves its purpose as the giant symphony unfolds.


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As you mentioned the Demiurge, you might be interested in reading this rather analytical description of what it is and how it relates to the Creator and all the rest:





Just as the composition of the human being can be divided into Body, Soul, Mind, and Spirit, so can Creation be divided into Universe, Demiurge, Logos, and Nous.

[...]

“Demiurge” is typically associated with concepts like implementing, manifesting, building, translating, projecting, shaping, and perpetuating. The term implies a demigod with a blind urge to bring the unmanifest into manifestation.

“Logos” is associated with thinking, reasoning, imagining, reconciling, balancing, planning, engineering, and informing. The term implies mind or intellect, especially divine mind or higher intellect. It sees, knows, plans, lays down the blueprint, balances the equation.

“Nous” is associated with spirit. On the universal scale it represents the infinite Creator. On a personal scale it represents the central core of individualized consciousness, the bedrock of sentience, the seed of infinite potential, the divine spark, that which engenders self-transcendence, the portion of us that is immortal and retains continuity through incarnations.

[...]

The Demiurge, despite being inherently neutral or even benevolent in its original design, is [..] corruptible and can become negatively entitized. [...] [S]entient beings began purposely manipulating the Demiurge for self-gain, further conditioning the World Ego to perpetuate the ideals of control and manipulation. Methods included occult rituals, hyper-dimensional technology, and the release of conditioned soul energy and thoughtforms into the etheric environment like drugs being injected into the Demiurge’s bloodstream.

[...]

[A] corrupted and personified Demiurge is like a psychopathic, narcissistic, jealous mother who feeds parasitically upon her offspring. She goes so far as to use her womb as an energy farm instead of an incubator of incarnated spirit. It is no longer a matrix of growth, but a Matrix Control System.

Thus, a corrupt Demiurge, personified, functions as a universal parasite: tyrannical, demonic, blindly driven by negative instinct. It would attempt to shape the course of the universe along lines that engender greater negativity, division, oppression, and whatever else it feeds upon. This is what Christians and Gnostics might call The Adversary.

And that’s where the Gnostics were right and Plato was out of touch with the times. The Demiurge was no longer just an obedient smith fashioning the universe according to the blueprint laid down through Logos. Even by Plato’s time, it was no longer in harmony with Nous, rather it had become corrupted at some point and subjugated by anti-spiritual forces of the demonic kind.

The “World Ego” is an interloper functioning as Adversary against the Logos. This is not only true on the universal scale, but also the personal. By default, our lower personality is adversarial to the divine personality.

Sources:
—http://montalk.net/gnosis/222/0-gnosis-summary
—http://montalk.net/gnosis/171/corruption-of-the-demiurge

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Christian ~

Your connection to the source energy (the divine) is very well felt while reading your words, it fills the heart and body with a sense of catharsis, almost a sense of floating. The connection with all the universal creations is absolute in such a state and the beingness of a stone, a pavement, a fence - is completely understood.


Originally posted by Christian: "I imagine the joy of the Creator when looking at the creation—not just at parts of it, but at all-that-is. I imagine the infinite joy and how the Creator says "thank you" to all-that-is."

I do not personally imagine the prime creator as a 'he' or as any sort of a figure, If I have to give it a go, more as an energetic inteligent grand divinity which we are all part of, not something external. If I would have imagined the creator as a somewhat human figure who reviews his all-that-is creation, I would have to say that a little self-criticism together with the pat on the back will not hurt him.
However, because of the way I percive things, I think we may tell this to ourselves -

"we have a beautiful creation here, good for us, but a little self scrutiny from our side is also needed."

Cheers,

Limor

[christian]

Hey Limor! :)



I do not personally imagine the prime creator as a 'he' or as any sort of a figure, If I have to give it a go, more as an energetic inteligent grand divinity which we are all part of, not something external.


Your words remind me of Walter Russell's The Secret of Light (https://ia600304.us.archive.org/35/items/WalterRussellTheSecretOfLight/WalterRussell_TheSecretOfLight.pdf), which he channeled and where he lets the Creator speak thusly:





I, the sexless One, am Unity. What I am thou art, for thou art Me; thou art the Whole.


But then again, the Creation is not the Creator.





I, the One Whole, am knowing Mind. I exist to think. All thinking is Light of My knowing, but My thinking is not Me.

All things are My image, but they are not Me, e'en though I am in them and they in Me.

I center living things which manifest My life, but they live not. I alone live.



If I would have imagined the creator as a somewhat human figure who reviews his all-that-is creation, I would have to say that a little self-criticism together with the pat on the back will not hurt him.
However, because of the way I percive things, I think we may tell this to ourselves -

"we have a beautiful creation here, good for us, but a little self scrutiny from our side is also needed."


I think scrutiny is indeed needed, not only a little, but absolute!





Man may know me by desiring to know Me.

Man is Me when he knoweth that he is Me.


However, I don't think it's necessary to criticize or praise—to judge—the Creator or the Creation. Imperfection is only on the surface. In the grand scheme, everything is perfectly fine and simply reason to be joyful. I can understand this most easily when imagining the opposite; what is a reason to be without joy? Everything can be, but nothing needs to be.

This does not mean that I'm not aware of suffering. I experience this as well, I acknowledge it. But still, the joy never ceases to exist, and even if it seems infinitely small next to the pain and suffering, the joy in and of itself is always infinite and abundant. Pain and suffering on the other hand seem more like self-imposed illusions to me, individually and collectively.





All thinking things are thinking My thinking.

All things change, and their changing still images Me, yet they are not Me.

I center growing systems, and changing cells of growing systems, yet I change not, e'en though their changing patterns spring from me.

To him who wouldeth create unbalance I say: Un-truth exists not in My house. I alone hold balance; and the eyes of those who see through Me are immune from all but balance.


I think there is a being who does the polar opposite of what I am doing. I think together we dance, even though to some it may seem like a violent struggle at times.

[Freed Fox]

Pain and suffering on the other hand seem more like self-imposed illusions to me, individually and collectively.

There are some great things in your messages here, but statements like the one above are increasingly difficult to tolerate for me. It seems anything but enlightened to suggest that the Native Americans were causing their own suffering when the Europeans stole their lands from them and began to systematically wipe them out; that the Africans had only themselves to blame for their misery when they were taken from their families and shipped off to a foreign land to perform back-breaking labor for the rest of their natural lives.

You might say these are somehow exceptions to your statement about suffering, but then who are you to judge whose suffering is real, and whose is illusory?

[christian]

I mean that all suffering is transitory and illusory in a way. And I don't see it like "the Native Americans caused their own suffering," rather like "humanity caused their own suffering." Humans torture humans. I don't care about the labels, races, religions, and all that. We as humanity do it to ourselves. This whole division, seeing for example Native Americans as completely separate from other humans, is just part of the illusion.

[Limor Wolf]

Hi Chris :)

What a beautiful response, I really enjoyed reading it. I do admit that this same statment that Freed Fox has payed a special attention to has stayed a couple of seconds longer in my mind as well, as compared to the others. Now, here we are emerging to another whole discussion that is actually touching your 'stone vs creator' contemplation. Your own recognition of the joy of being a stone represents a microcosm perspective. on average, human beings do not so much gaze at stones, all the more so communicate with it, due to differences in level of consciousness. Here you allowed yourself to take the smaller- microscopic perspective.

When you enable yourself to observe through the eyes of the creator, while you aspire to seek the 'supreme state', you are representing the macrocosm perspective, for no human being can expand himself so he could see all the creation in all it's glory. Here you allowed yourself to take the grand - godly like eye's view.

In this, you managed to connect all levels of consciousness and realization into one comprehensive observation. Good for you!

When it comes to this statment -


Originally posted by Christian: "Pain and suffering on the other hand seem more like self-imposed illusions to me, individually and collectively"

It seems you have chosen to take only the grand perspective which does not take into account the smaller very tangible one that so many experience. By that you may have missed something.

This world is a grand illusory, there is no doubt about it, but it is played 100% as if it is real, and untill the cells of this grand body will be able to recognise their own connection and beingness as a part of something a lot bigger, they will continue to percieve their own daily routine of bulding blocks, conducting battles and sometimes being destroyed as the only authentic occurrance, and it may be too realistic to them as to turn the gaze away and not acknowledge their painful moments.

Ignorance is a bliss? not in our reality, but the more holistic and complete perspective we adopt, we may allow ourselves to find our way out from this duality of existance if only we care to look at the small earthly details as much as the joyful inspiration of the grand divinity.


"It was the best day of my life, and I feel that the stone smiled as well."

Sounds good. If you managed to make the stone smile, there is no doubt you can do it with humans who may percieve themselves as suffering, which I am sure that you do : )

[christian]

This world is a grand illusory, there is no doubt about it, but it is played 100% as if it is real, and untill the cells of this grand body will be able to recognise their own connection and beingness as a part of something a lot bigger, they will continue to percieve their own daily routine of bulding blocks, conducting battles and sometimes being destroyed as the only authentic occurrance, and it may be too realistic to them as to turn the gaze away and not acknowledge their painful moments.

Ignorance is a bliss? not in our reality, but the more holistic and complete perspective we adopt, we may allow ourselves to find our way out from this duality of existance if only we care to look at the small earthly details as much as the joyful inspiration of the grand divinity.


"All the world's a stage," as Shakespeare put it. The better the play, the more real it looks, and it certainly can feel very real, both when you're in it but also when you just watch it. For me, it's not about the stage, the illusion, or duality to disappear, but to realize the truth of it all. I can happily continue experiencing duality and being an actor in all of this, I wanna play my role(s) with all the enthusiasm I've got, but at the same time be aware that I'm playing an act. Actually, I even want to write more of my own script.

Destruction and pain is still part of all this, always will be in one way or another, but it can be put into perspective, just as everything else that happens on the stage! None of that is ever happening to my true self, it's always the stage persona that gets hurt or destroyed and that feels pain. The actor can identify with that if he so desires—but more often than not I don't desire that.

It's not about being ignorant or withdrawing from the great act. I think this would really not be helpful or even possible. The only thing I wanna withdraw from is ignorance, because like you say it's not a bliss, only a fake bliss maybe for some people for some time. The real bliss is in knowledge and enlightenment, like you say, looking at both all the details and the bigger picture from a holistic perspective.

Friedrich Schiller said, "Seek tranquility, but through balance, not through the stasis of your activity." In The Secret of Light, the Creator expresses the same idea:





I have but one law for all My opposed pairs of creating things; and that law needs but one word to spell it out, so hear Me when I say that the one word of My one law is BALANCE.

And if man needs two words to aid him in his knowing of the workings of that law, those two words are BALANCED INTERCHANGE.

And if man still needs more words to aid his knowing of My one law, give to him another one, and let those three words be RHYTHMIC BALANCED INTERCHANGE.



If you managed to make the stone smile, there is no doubt you can do it with humans who may percieve themselves as suffering, which I am sure that you do : )


Maybe the stone smiled all along and it's just that I only realized more of that in that moment. I think everybody has a smile, maybe it's secret, but when we connect with it in ourselves and in others, miracles happen.

[onawah]

In some traditions of the indigenous peoples, the Stone People actually have a higher consciousness than what we think of as sentient beings.
I have a big collection of stones I pick up on my rambles through the woods.
I keep a lot of them inside because they help me to stay grounded.
And I have some that appear to have eyes and faces on them which I keep just outside my front door.
I've asked them to serve as guardians for me, and I think they do.
It's a good idea to make friends with All Our Relations, the Stone People included.