Mystery fibres drop from sky

[heyokah]

Mystery fibres drop from sky

November 11, 2013

MYSTERIOUS stringy filaments seen falling from the sky have mystified residents and authorities in the Drôme and Ardèche.

Reports of the fibres were first raised on Thursday, but no one has yet been able to identify what they are – giving rise to theories that they are the by-product of plane exhausts.

Some website are already speculating that the fibres are proof behind a conspiracy theory that “chemtrail”, contrails from planes that take a long time to disperse, are deliberately injecting chemicals into the atmosphere to spread disease and kill the sick and infirm.

Others have offered suggestions from spiders’ webs to ‘Angel hair’, believed by followers of Raëlism to be made by UFOs passing through the atmosphere.

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The prefecture for the Drôme said it did not know what the fibres were but said it was not worried and would not be sending them for analysis.

The Commission de Recherche et d’Information Indépendantes sur la Radioactivité has said there is no concern about radioactivity from the fibres.


http://www.connexionfrance.com/Mysterious-fibres-chemtrails-conspiracy-15201-view-article.html#sthash.fXAjoAad.8xPphqBv.dpuf

It really worried me to read this last week, as I live in the southern part of France as well.
We have been bombed with chemtrails the last few weeks,, after which there were long days of dark clouds and drizzle.



The prefecture for the Drôme said it did not know what the fibres were but said it was not worried and would not be sending them for analysis.

The Commission de Recherche et d’Information Indépendantes sur la Radioactivité has said there is no concern about radioactivity from the fibres.



This is what worries me the most.... NOT SENDING THEM FOR ANALYSIS....

UPDATE

I found a video on YouTube about the event.
Sorry it's spoken in French but the pictures speak for themselves.
You can see the filaments falling from the sky !



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QM34U34Vmo

[Lifebringer]

Eat not what God or mother earth have NOT provided. Look on the back of your food products. If there is a encircled "c" then know they are in your food sources. This code keeps them from picking up the wrong foods for their own consumption. This encircled "c" may end up in food pantries when no one buys it so be careful if you use them/pantry:wizard:. Look it up and find all there is to know about agenda 21 and their food depopulation products for the goym.

Something that may need to be "bumped" on before its news"

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/11/tracking-4-objects-om-space-moving-in-formation-where-is-NASA-video-2470924.html

What was so intriguing about this video is you can visually see craft emerging from some sort of barrier as they first peep out then "extend on their way out" of it. It's like they are changing shifts because as you watch the ones that were stationary, wait for them to all come out, then they go "in" the same barrier, first long then shrinking before completely disappearing.

Dimensions, wormhole? I don't know, but I know what my eyes see on this video and the guy hasn't mentioned the comparison I just mentioned.

He's stating that he's been observing the formation but he hasn't stated anything about the appearance and disappearance area of space they emerge and return to.

Sorta like Deep Space.

Amazing for those who pay attention to detail and know a little about science. Shame they are so selfish as to enjoy the amazement among themselves.

Soon this shall all change and we shall know more than they for they are the fallen in grace and we are not. We can be communicated to, while they are shut out from the voice or guide.

[loungelizard]

Eat not what God or mother earth have NOT provided. Look on the back of your food products. If there is a encircled "c" then know they are in your food sources. This code keeps them from picking up the wrong foods for their own consumption. This encircled "c" may end up in food pantries when no one buys it so be careful if you use them/pantry:wizard:. Look it up and find all there is to know about agenda 21 and their food depopulation products for the goym.

Hello Lifebringer

I've never seen a circled c on food packaging - is that because I live in Europe and this is an American symbol? What is it said to represent?

Thanks!

[heyokah]

Something that may need to be "bumped" on before its news"

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/11/tracking-4-objects-om-space-moving-in-formation-where-is-NASA-video-2470924.html



Hi, Lifebringer, thanks for your reaction.

It's a pitty I can't get into that link as it should be.
It says:




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Btw, I live in Europe as well and I never saw that circled c on food packaging either.

[heyokah]

I see that 'AIRCRAP.ORG' picked it up as well.


Chemtrails: New analyzes in French laboratories

Filaments collected in the field in four places in France since the end of 2012.
Tuesday, November 19, 2013

Samples collected from individuals, entrusted to Analytika (Center for Independent Research and Expetises Organic Chemistry, located in Cuers, Var, France). Evidence was such that a French local newspaper picked it up in one of their publications.


The report recently published by Analytika analysis provides scientific evidence of anthropogenic origin of these filaments.Among the many various known organic compounds are detected in the composition of fuels and lubricants for aircraft engines molecules, including several phthalates , “endocrine disruptors”.


http://i41.tinypic.com/345n9y1.jpg

http://aircrap.org/chemtrails-new-analyzes-french-laboratories/338547/

[heyokah]

This video was taken in Zamora, Spain, October this year,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOd8Ue1mqg0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[ghostrider]

Eat not what God or mother earth have NOT provided. Look on the back of your food products. If there is a encircled "c" then know they are in your food sources. This code keeps them from picking up the wrong foods for their own consumption. This encircled "c" may end up in food pantries when no one buys it so be careful if you use them/pantry:wizard:. Look it up and find all there is to know about agenda 21 and their food depopulation products for the goym.

Something that may need to be "bumped" on before its news"

http://beforeitsnews.com/space/2013/11/tracking-4-objects-om-space-moving-in-formation-where-is-NASA-video-2470924.html

What was so intriguing about this video is you can visually see craft emerging from some sort of barrier as they first peep out then "extend on their way out" of it. It's like they are changing shifts because as you watch the ones that were stationary, wait for them to all come out, then they go "in" the same barrier, first long then shrinking before completely disappearing.

Dimensions, wormhole? I don't know, but I know what my eyes see on this video and the guy hasn't mentioned the comparison I just mentioned.

He's stating that he's been observing the formation but he hasn't stated anything about the appearance and disappearance area of space they emerge and return to.

Sorta like Deep Space.

Amazing for those who pay attention to detail and know a little about science. Shame they are so selfish as to enjoy the amazement among themselves.

Soon this shall all change and we shall know more than they for they are the fallen in grace and we are not. We can be communicated to, while they are shut out from the voice or guide.

ehummm. excuse me , the C encircled means the product has a copywrite , uncle GR has about 40 songs copywritten in library of congress ... this is a trade known symbol that writers , artist , inventors , painters , use , to unsure you get royalites ...and to sue when others steal your work ...

[heyokah]

Here's a very good video called: Morgellons actually Explained!!


From the conference
'Dark agenda of synthetic biology 2011' with speaker Dr Smallstorm.

This video provides a clear and succinct talk on morgellons and demystifies the supporting role played by chemtrails.
It also explains how this will eventually lead to A.I (Artificial Intelligence) and the effects of this bio-engineering of the human race and other effected lifeforms on earth.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj8pAgUZLJI&feature=share&list=PL7834AAF17B83AD93&index=12

[Zephra]

Yup when I saw this my thoughts were yup morgellons. Yes I have morgellons. Good call heyokah.

[observer]

Eat not what God or mother earth have NOT provided. Look on the back of your food products. If there is a encircled "c" then know they are in your food sources. This code keeps them from picking up the wrong foods for their own consumption. This encircled "c" may end up in food pantries when no one buys it so be careful if you use them/pantry:wizard:. Look it up and find all there is to know about agenda 21 and their food depopulation products for the goym.


ehummm. excuse me , the C encircled means the product has a copywrite , uncle GR has about 40 songs copywritten in library of congress ... this is a trade known symbol that writers , artist , inventors , painters , use , to unsure you get royalites ...and to sue when others steal your work ...


The encircled 'c' Lifebringer is speaking of can usually be found around the manufacture's name and address at the bottom of the list of ingredients. To my knowledge this symbol has always meant 'copyright'.

It would be informative if Lifebringer would produce a link to verify these assertions.

[observer]

From the Carnicom Institute website relating to this filament issue:

http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/environmental_filament_project.htm
http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/false_report.htm
http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/keratin_established.htm
http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/penetration_of_filament.htm
http://www.carnicominstitute.org/html/articles_by_date.html


All five links are relevant to this thread. In the last link one may find a library of information on this subject....

[Sidney]

Anyone that is mystified by this obviously has not been looking up for the past 15 years. Obviously chemtrail fall-out.

[The Canceller]

This "phenomenon" has been observed for centuries and is caused by spiders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_%28spider%29) which use their silk to travel by air. Obviously, its going to take more than one spider to produce the volume of fibres noticed in the videos here, but get this: over one million spiders (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef622.asp) can live in a one acre grassy field. Check this out . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdgrhNw7Ko

. . . its another splendid example of the many wonders of nature that those who embrace the environment with knowledge and understanding celebrate.

[Flash]

i thought it was snow in the video above

[observer]

This "phenomenon" has been observed for centuries and is caused by spiders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_%28spider%29) which use their silk to travel by air. Obviously, its going to take more than one spider to produce the volume of fibres noticed in the videos here, but get this: over one million spiders (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef622.asp) can live in a one acre grassy field. Check this out . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdgrhNw7Ko

. . . its another splendid example of the many wonders of nature that those who embrace the environment with knowledge and understanding celebrate.

It is the hypothesis of the research being done at the Carnicom Institute that these filaments are the direct cause of Morgellons Disease. A report describing the infrared spectrophotometer analysis of these fibers is available, here (http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/ir1.htm).

Are you suggesting, Mr. Canceller, the fibers referred to in Carnicom's spectrum analysis, are one-in-the-same with the spider webs that are reported on in the video you offered?

....and, if this is the case, than why do you suppose Carnicom Institute has not picked-up on this aspect of the phenomenon, as yet?

[Note to the members who believe this tripe:
Just go back to sleep.... everything is going to be O.K..... there is a bright NEW DAWN, just over the horizon.... ]

[Calz]

Well ... there may be other explanations however it has, in fact, been tested and verified as morgellons in some circumstances.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18601-CHEMWEBS-in-Nebraska-live-on-camera-&highlight=nebraska

[heyokah]

This "phenomenon" has been observed for centuries and is caused by spiders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_%28spider%29) which use their silk to travel by air. Obviously, its going to take more than one spider to produce the volume of fibres noticed in the videos here, but get this: over one million spiders (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef622.asp) can live in a one acre grassy field. Check this out . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdgrhNw7Ko


. . . its another splendid example of the many wonders of nature that those who embrace the environment with knowledge and understanding celebrate.

Thank you Canceller for the video. Indeed a splendid example of the wonders of nature.

However, these spider webs are a natural phenomena.
The CHEMWEBS in the video below are not so natural in my opinion and nothing to be celebrated.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kVK2Oca0P0

[The Canceller]

It is the hypothesis of the research being done at the Carnicom Institute that these filaments are the direct cause of Morgellons Disease. A report describing the infrared spectrophotometer analysis of these fibers is available, here (http://www.carnicominstitute.org/articles/ir1.htm).

Perhaps the horse is before the cart. I suggest that it would be important to establish scientifically that Morgellon's Disease is anything other than a manifestation of a psychological disorder (http://cmr.asm.org/content/22/4/690.long). At this stage, the Carnicom Institute lays itself open to valid criticism based on what appears to be the fundamental error of confirmation bias.



Are you suggesting, Mr. Canceller, the fibers referred to in Carnicom's spectrum analysis, are one-in-the-same with the spider webs that are reported on in the video you offered?

....and, if this is the case, than why do you suppose Carnicom Institute has not picked-up on this aspect of the phenomenon, as yet?

My post never referred to the Carnicom Institute, it was in response to the idea that the fibres are evidence of Chemtrails. Now that you mention it, the possibiity that the fibres tested are created by spiders appears unlikely. If it was spider silk, the fibre would not have survived intact within a human mouth. Looking around the Carnicom Institute site, my supposition is that fibres subject to the test you link to was probably some other material, most likely hair.

As to the subject of the thread, The Carnicom Institute is aware of the possibility that the fibres seen in the environment are spider silk but, amazingly, has dismissed the suggestion as "subjective". My supposition is that this is further evidence of confirmation bias. Don't get me wrong - I would love for the fibres to be some sort of evidence of chemtrails or even proof positive of Morgellons Disease. Having scientific proof of both or either of those things would be a huge breakthrough. I await the headlines and the nomination of Clifford Carnicom for a Nobel Prize.


[Note to the members who believe this tripe:
Just go back to sleep.... everything is going to be O.K..... there is a bright NEW DAWN, just over the horizon.... ]

You lost me here. Are you saying that it is tripe to suggest the fibres are the work of spiders or are you saying that the work of the Carnicom Institute is tripe? The former would be to deny reality, while the latter is quite probable but a bit harsh. The people at the Carnicom Institute seem genuine in their efforts but misguided in their approach.

[The Canceller]

. . . Thank you Canceller for the video. Indeed a splendid example of the wonders of nature.

However, these spider webs are a natural phenomena.
The CHEMWEBS in the video below are not so natural in my opinion and nothing to be celebrated.

Look like spider silk to me.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QJV9kqOzY

[heyokah]

. . . Thank you Canceller for the video. Indeed a splendid example of the wonders of nature.

However, these spider webs are a natural phenomena.
The CHEMWEBS in the video below are not so natural in my opinion and nothing to be celebrated.

Look like spider silk to me.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QJV9kqOzY

Different video !! :nono:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kVK2Oca0P0

Some can't see the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail either. They can't or they won't......

[The Canceller]

Different video !!

Some can't see the difference between a contrail and a chemtrail either. They can't or they won't......

I'm fairly new to this chemtrail thing. Based on what I have seen so far, chemtrails seem more of a belief than any sort of verifiable fact. Are you able to provide any scientific evidence to support that chemtrails exist at all? If I can get over that barrier, it would be far easier for me to move onto a consideration of the possibilities mentioned in this thread. At this stage, Occam's Razor is my guide.

[heyokah]

I'm fairly new to this chemtrail thing. Based on what I have seen so far, chemtrails seem more of a belief than any sort of verifiable fact. Are you able to provide any scientific evidence to support that chemtrails exist at all? If I can get over that barrier, it would be far easier for me to move onto a consideration the possibilities mentioned in this thread. At this stage, Occam's Razor is my guide.

So you are new here. Welcome !

I will give you one that is not too long. Good to start with.
Don't be shocked.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2x6TEeknfo&feature=share&list=PL7834AAF17B83AD93

This one is even shorter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCohucT7FmQ&feature=share&list=PL7834AAF17B83AD93&index=2

And the one I posted before (post #8 ): Morgellons actually Explained!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj8pAgUZLJI&feature=share&list=PL7834AAF17B83AD93&index=12

Good luck :)

[The Canceller]

So you are new here. Welcome !

I will give you one that is not too long. Good to start with.
Don't be shocked.

Good luck :)

Thank you for the welcome.

Interesting stuff and, despite your instruction, I am a little shocked. Still, I obviously didn't make myself clear. When I say "scientific evidence", I am referring to some sort of scholarly article which has been subject to peer review and published under the aegis of an organisation recognised for its intellectual rigour and sustained, on-going reliability. A major university press would be a good example. Are you able to link to anything like that? I just would hate to go down this rabbit hole without some sort of credible basis upon which to do so.

[heyokah]

So you are new here. Welcome !

I will give you one that is not too long. Good to start with.
Don't be shocked.

Good luck :)

Thank you for the welcome.

Interesting stuff and, despite your instruction, I am a little shocked. Still, I obviously didn't make myself clear. When I say "scientific evidence", I am referring to some sort of scholarly article which has been subject to peer review and published under the aegis of an organisation recognised for its intellectual rigour and sustained, on-going reliability. A major university press would be a good example. Are you able to link to anything like that? I just would hate to go down this rabbit hole without some sort of credible basis upon which to do so.

Read these articles and you'll know why scollars or universities don't want to "burn their hands" on this topic. (Dutch saying).

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/attorney-joe-marmon-begins-lawsuit-against-shasta-county-california-for-ignoring-chemtrail-tests/

http://www.infowars.com/chemtrails-an-obvious-overhead-pollutant-ignored-and-denied/

http://www.rense.com/general77/widesp.htm

[heyokah]

One more for the rest of the week ;)



The aluminum and/or barium based sprays can increase military radar
visibility on military flight paths (not chaff), reflect sun infrared back to space, obstruct the sky to reduce visibility of training exercises and prevent the masses from properly producing enough vitamin D - leading to mass problems related to low immune system function, and whatever else. And, all those things at the exact same time - Hitting many birds with the one stone.......

http://panacea-bocaf.org/chemtrails.htm

[The Canceller]

Read these articles and you'll know why scollars or universities don't want to "burn their hands" on this topic. (Dutch saying).

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/attorney-joe-marmon-begins-lawsuit-against-shasta-county-california-for-ignoring-chemtrail-tests/

http://www.infowars.com/chemtrails-an-obvious-overhead-pollutant-ignored-and-denied/

http://www.rense.com/general77/widesp.htm

Again, interesting stuff, thank you. Joe Marmon's suit looks like it might provide some sort of evidence, even if it is just sufficient to convince a judge. I did quick Google rergarding the case but there doesn't seem to have been any profress in the matter since 2011. Not that surprising given the kind protracted nature of litigation. The second article from Infowars repeats lots of assertions I've seen elsewhere but seems to go off the rails when the writer suggests its possible to remove aluminium from the brain by drinking a particular type of mineral water. Very strange. The third article from rense.com actually provides evidence to suggest chemtrails are a nonsense. I mean, if Greenpeace dismisses the basic science involved, that's another nail in the coffin because you can be assured Greenpeace is not an organisation frightened by speaking truth to power. I'm afraid to say, none of the articles provide any indication as to why scholars and universities would not be interested in supporting evidence which confirms the existence of chemtrails.

Thanks again for taking the time and making the effort with me. The more I look into this the more I am becoming convinced the chemtrail thing is just a money-making scam deriving revenue both from the gullible and from those organisations interested in diluting the work of the IPCC. There is far greater evidence available for that position than there is for chemtrails.

[The Canceller]

One more for the rest of the week ;)



The aluminum and/or barium based sprays can increase military radar
visibility on military flight paths (not chaff), reflect sun infrared back to space, obstruct the sky to reduce visibility of training exercises and prevent the masses from properly producing enough vitamin D - leading to mass problems related to low immune system function, and whatever else. And, all those things at the exact same time - Hitting many birds with the one stone.......

http://panacea-bocaf.org/chemtrails.htm

Just one piece of evidence would be great.

[heyokah]

One more for the rest of the week ;)



The aluminum and/or barium based sprays can increase military radar
visibility on military flight paths (not chaff), reflect sun infrared back to space, obstruct the sky to reduce visibility of training exercises and prevent the masses from properly producing enough vitamin D - leading to mass problems related to low immune system function, and whatever else. And, all those things at the exact same time - Hitting many birds with the one stone.......

http://panacea-bocaf.org/chemtrails.htm

Just one piece of evidence would be great.

What more evidence do you want? Look up. Proof is there.
Don't expect someone to write a thesis on chemtrails. Scientists and universities are paid by the Government. They don't want to lose their jobs.

But I think your mind is already made up. My job isn't to convince you of something you don't want to believe.
My job is to protect me and the ones I love by what I know to be the truth at this point.




I'm fairly new to this chemtrail thing. Based on what I have seen so far, chemtrails seem more of a belief than any sort of verifiable fact. Are you able to provide any scientific evidence to support that chemtrails exist at all? If I can get over that barrier, it would be far easier for me to move onto a consideration of the possibilities mentioned in this thread. At this stage, Occam's Razor is my guide.



Secondary to that is to combat disinformation. One of these pieces of disinformation that "debunkers" like to spread is the belief that Occam's razor is some hard and fast rule that theories must pass before they can be accepted.
The implication is that if a competing theory is simpler, then more complex theories which require more assumptions cannot be true.
This is one of the disinformation movement's secret weapons.

Occam's razor is not some scientific law that ideas have to conform to in order to be plausible. It's nothing more than a philosophical tie-breaker.
In fact, Occam's razor (or, the parsimony argument) is only useful if competing theories are equally plausible.
Personally, I believe that there is more reason to believe that chemtrails are just that - chemtrails.
I have yet to see a strong argument supporting any of the following:

1) chemtrails are the same as contrails
2) chemtrails don't exist
3) chemtrails are harmless

Dear Canceller, I leave it at that, because I'm not going to spend more time on you. There is enough information here on the forum or on the internet.

Hope you won't end up as a chemtroll :rolleyes:

[The Canceller]

What more evidence do you want? Look up. Proof is there.

Where? This is possibly a very, very serious situation with dire consequences. Since being exposed to the idea of chemtrails here a few days ago, I have looked and looked. All I have found is international mockery of the idea along with detailed, blow-by-blow, assertion-by-assertion refuting of every claim made in support of chemtrails. From the grid patterns to the chemical analyses, from the simple logistics through to the aeronautical engineering. I am not yet 100 percent convinced chemtrails do not exist because I found the same sort of negative reaction when I first looked into the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Centre. It took a few years but I have since seen some evidence (http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/) which convinces me that there is a good chance that it was not the planes flying into the buildings which caused their collapse. Let me know if you want to see some of the raw data used by those scientists. Some of the data has been criticised and some of it refuted, but not the core physics. So, when it comes to chemtrails, what evidence convinced you? What core element of chemtrails cannot be refuted? It can't have been anything you have posted here because nothing you have presented contains any actual evidence, only assertions.

When it comes to Occan's Razor, the two competing theories I'm dealing with are: (a) the fibres are evidence of chemtrails, versus, (b) the fibres are the work of spiders. Given that there is no evidence for (a), then (b) is the more likely. Simple. If Occam's Razor is no use to you here, try Carl Sagan's maxim: "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." You have to admit that chemtrails is an extraordinary claim. So where is this proof?

No, I am more likely to drift away from any further discussion on the subject than become a troll. If it turns out that chemtrails are simply a matter of belief rather than reality, I can't really see much harm in it except that it detracts from the far more important issue of anthropogenic climate change. As it happens, I too believe in things I can't prove, but I am working on some theories and doing some research.

[exponentialist]

Hey heyokah, I've been concerned with chemtrails for years now. I'm fascinated by and grateful for the videos you posted earlier. All the 'scientific' proof I need is my eyes, but I do appreciate conclusive evidence when it's available.

One prevailing question I've had is this: Those who manufacture and legislate the spraying, and those who deliver the stuff, are they just in denial? Do they really think it's just inert stuff? Unless one walks around with a gas mask on, we are all breathing the same air. I would imagine that those who are engineering this crap realize they're poisoning their own families, at some level. Got any insight on that? Thanks again.

[nomadguy]

Read these articles and you'll know why scollars or universities don't want to "burn their hands" on this topic. (Dutch saying).

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/attorney-joe-marmon-begins-lawsuit-against-shasta-county-california-for-ignoring-chemtrail-tests/

http://www.infowars.com/chemtrails-an-obvious-overhead-pollutant-ignored-and-denied/

http://www.rense.com/general77/widesp.htm

Again, interesting stuff, thank you. Joe Marmon's suit looks like it might provide some sort of evidence, even if it is just sufficient to convince a judge. I did quick Google rergarding the case but there doesn't seem to have been any profress in the matter since 2011. Not that surprising given the kind protracted nature of litigation. The second article from Infowars repeats lots of assertions I've seen elsewhere but seems to go off the rails when the writer suggests its possible to remove aluminium from the brain by drinking a particular type of mineral water. Very strange. The third article from rense.com actually provides evidence to suggest chemtrails are a nonsense. I mean, if Greenpeace dismisses the basic science involved, that's another nail in the coffin because you can be assured Greenpeace is not an organisation frightened by speaking truth to power. I'm afraid to say, none of the articles provide any indication as to why scholars and universities would not be interested in supporting evidence which confirms the existence of chemtrails.

Thanks again for taking the time and making the effort with me. The more I look into this the more I am becoming convinced the chemtrail thing is just a money-making scam deriving revenue both from the gullible and from those organisations interested in diluting the work of the IPCC. There is far greater evidence available for that position than there is for chemtrails.

The evidence you are looking for is locked up in Patents. Sneaky yah? :yo:

[heyokah]

For those who need more information about what is going on before their eyes.

The Illuminati are vandalizing the skies, as visibly as a graffiti artist spraying a wall, and yet most of us remain oblivious.
Like little else, chemtrails bring home just how desperate our predicament is.



Chemtrails: Frightening Lesser-Known Facts

Human Pesticide?

"In the last ten years, respiratory disease in the US has moved from 8th to 3rd highest cause of death.
Asthma rates have more than doubled in the western world and Alzheimer's' disease, a condition that is caused by aluminum poisoning, has also skyrocketed. "

by David Richards
(henrymakow.com)

There has been an increasing awareness of chemtrails in recent years. Protests have been organized, movies have been released and whistle blowers have come forward.
Most significantly, former Los Angeles FBI chief Ted Gunderson made a video denouncing chemtrails shortly before his death in 2011.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR6KVYJ73AU
The heavy spraying began in NATO countries in the late 90s, but today chemtrails are being recorded pretty much everywhere, from Russia to Brazil, South Korea to Cuba.
This is a program of extraordinary scope and importance. However, while we know a chemtrail program exists, there is very little hard information on how it functions and what its goals are.

I have been researching chemtrails and, while I don't yet have the full picture, I present this information will plug a few holes.

• Most politicians are as oblivious as we are.
AC Griffith, a former CIA and NSA operative,[/URL] says: 'The monies that go into CIA projects don't necessarily come from congressional appropriations. The congress as a whole is completely oblivious to the aerosol program. They are afraid to ask.'

People on the inside who oppose the program are punished. 'One of the key people who designed the aerosol is now sitting in federal penitentiary.
They still go to him to ask him questions.'

Griffith also revealed that former Clinton era Navy Chief of Naval Operations, Jeremy Boorda, left, was murdered because he opposed the program. Boorda was found dead in 1996 with three shotgun wounds in his chest.
The authorities were quick to claim he committed suicide, and the autopsy results were never released to the public.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgf6lKDtz5Q


• Commercial airliners are involved in spraying.
In the very beginning, the aerosols were sprayed solely by military planes, but now the program has been expanded and commercial airliners have been outfitted with aerosol units controlled by computers and satellites.
Photos provide evidence of this, like this Lufthansa jet flying over the US.

In the airline industry, the operation is known as Project Cloverfield.
In 2000, a high level executive at an American airline revealed his office was visited by two men from an unnamed government agency:

'They told us that the government was going to pay our airline, along with others, to release special chemicals from commercial aircraft. When asked what the chemicals were and why we were going to spray them, they told us that information was given on a need-to-know basis and we weren't cleared for it...We were made to sign non-disclosure forms that basically stated that we would go to prison if we told anyone what we knew.'


Delivery by commercial aircraft raises the possibility that many countries have not given consent to being sprayed, and may be unaware it's even happening.

• Weather manipulation is a daily occurrence.
Chemtrails are used in conjunction with HAARP for geo-engineering (the technical term for weather control).
Much is written about the ability to create disasters like earthquakes and tsunamis against an enemy, but we don't realize that weather patterns are manipulated all the time.
Scott Stevens was a TV weatherman in the US but quit his job upon realizing that this was happening on a nigh daily basis.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrbKUK_bRfQ

~

If we don't organize to stop this scourge, we deserve what we get.


Despite this, I think anti-chemtrail activism has tremendous potential.
The existence of the operation is easy to prove and we have the testimony of many whistle blowers.
The protest movement can continue to generate momentum because chemtrails will persist for decades to come.
--

- See more at: http://henrymakow.com/2013/04/Chemtrails-Frightening-Lesser-Known-Facts%20.html#sthash.3GbpBBEr.dpuf

~

[heyokah]

I would imagine that those who are engineering this crap realize they're poisoning their own families, at some level. Got any insight on that? Thanks again.

I agree it seems silly that they would poison themselves, but who knows, nobody does for sure.
They probably know how to avoid the side affects by using antidotes and supplements.

For instance this way:

Detoxifying daily habits

If we want to protect ourselves from this health-harming madness, a few select foods and supplements can help.

Chlorella - Pulls heavy metals from tissue and encapsulates toxins to prevent reabsorption in the digestive tract.

Pectin - Absorbs heavy metals in the intestines and assists with removal.

Cilantro - Eliminates mercury, lead and aluminum from the body.

Kombu seaweed - Rich in heavy metal-absorbing alginate.

Oxygenated silver - Destroys bacteria, viruses and fungus.

Activated charcoal - Binds to heavy metals for safe removal from the body.

As a powerful detoxifier of heavy metals, parasites, pollutants, bacteria, fungi and viruses, bentonite clay is an excellent defense against chemtrails. For internal consumption, only ingest the food grade variety known as calcium bentonite clay. It can also be used in the bath for gentle detoxification through the skin.

Additionally, DMPS (sodium 2,3-dimercaptopropane-l-sulfonate) is a sulfuric acid salt which is extremely effective in removing heavy metals from the body. In laboratory tests, when an intravenous shot of DMPS was given, 90 percent of heavy metals were excreted through the kidneys after 24 hours. Oral supplementation is also an option, although it’s considered less effective.

See: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/chemtrails-learn-how-to-protect-yourself-from-these-treacherous-poisons/

[Lifebringer]

This code tells the elites if they have tainted or carcinogenic produce in their midst. I understand every elite nation has one that they serve others in the grocery markets and they get top choice. I saw the coding on a YT video and I believe it's been mentioned by a few whisleblowers, during the time we found out about "round-up" killing the bees. WE were identifying harmful foods and I stumbled on about 3-4 videos telling of the encircled "c" and I believe the other alphabet for them to know they have "save" foods is "k" encircled.

This symbol appears on most corporate ag produce and perhaps the encircled "c" is because it is encorporated. But that was about 4 years ago and I've dumped a lot of my video on my fave as I do every year to prevent virus attacks by holding them too long with Microsoft. In fact it might be on this page after I fond the "founder of HIV/AIDS.

Here's a trail to search the "tube" and good luck, try using the title encircled "c" products on YT and maybe it will come up, but as I said it may come up after watching a video, and then the ones after the video is played, may have held the title that made me click on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7O/x8YGI

I've dealt in the lab and viral education going through med school, this guy has so much blood/disease on his hands. Robert Gallo, probably of the Gallo's, decided to religiously pursue a way to end homosexual, or prostitutional behaviors, and eliminate those who didn't conform.

Evil at it's purest form, busted by a very good reporter/journalist, that did his homework.

PS, I call him Dr. Plague.
PSS Millions around the world effected, including a family member of mine, and this guy is still walking the planet. He's got to be their #1demonic member. Don't they rise in rank, through body/murder count?

[Lifebringer]

Maybe the "k" in your country. I've seen it in my neck of the grocery stores all the time, and I'm a fixed income person, so if you're not seeing it, perhaps you are what they consider worthy of not poisoning. Anyway, take a stroll on the more poorer sides of the town, shopping markets and scan the shelves, as if you're looking for nutritional values, and turn the label around. Now they say on these video's that it's one of the "marks" of the beast on products. Yeah, that's what I thought, until I did a little more research and found after about like 2=3-4 videos, that there was something to it and it goes to the donation charities. This made me check on tainted vaccines, which led me to Bill Gates and the depop program and agenda 21.

Lots of stuff to blow your mind and for a while I had to sit for two or three days absorbing, praying and contemplating with a more focused intent for exposure. Start with the video I just left about Robert Gallo and his "college, desertation." I think that's how its spelled where a graduating student presents something they've focused on by given assignment, where they research and then turn it in? Yep, this journalist really did his homework. I love how visibly uncomfortable this Gallo guy gets, when he's repeatedly presented with his own words, articles in the science reviews and other literature, that busts him so royally, he should have got "crowned." Just a pun LOL.

[Lifebringer]

Right below their "oops embarrassing" there is a list of light blue articles that have the title about the 3rd one on the right side two inch below the "try later."

[Lifebringer]

Are they parasite? 70 million a year die from them, and most illnesses are caused by them and their waste.
A video posed a question to me also about them and the religious depictions of what they call snakes that may very well be parasitical worms that invaded Eve's body. In the Enki story, when they slept around they got a sexually transmitted disease that caused them to die faster and no longer live long. Hmmm... just so many more pieces and so many facets to this hidden diamond treasure of knowledge. Every direction of search leads to more and more branches of the evil ones who have ruled over us with no mercy, just steady planned agenda carried out.

The "medical rabbit hole" is as heartless under Rockerfeller as Monsanto is to our natural produce.

[Lifebringer]

And who owns the copy write's artists? Ask any artist they will tell you it's the "illuminatie." The child stars that have been raped and pedophiled, like the one who whistleblowed on "The View" about 2 or three weeks ago. He wrote a book about it. Keep going you will see as others, besides, if you want to trust them, it's your choice. The copywrite are owned by the elites as well as the laws over our trade. Global distribution and charitable organizations feeding the poor what?

Monsanto, that's what. But like I said, keep searching and you will come across a few whistle blowers that will tell. There is also video of some soldiers who are under duress, because they know of the mass chip inserting agenda, and blew the whistle on that also. Our young don't and won't go along with this, they will tell us. WE should listen as they are there on the ground as Snowden was, if you know what I mean.

Too much corruption, too much harm, too many to count.
The search is there, and as I said "if I find it among my many pdf's under the agenda 21, there is a clause or two there also I believe as they describe their brances of control agencies.

Good luck and I will keep looking for them, but I only have a small pc, barely able to keep the net, and can't keep a lot of what we learn here for too long or I have to install more space, to which I simply can't afford it right now. I get rid of the stuff that is slowing my pc that I save under favorites and desktop. It was a few years ago, but I will check and see, I am in the middle of something else detrimental to my development, and it's the Sabbath this evening so I will try to get back to you before sunset or either on Sunday when I post.

[Lifebringer]

Awww poo, I've spent a great deal of time going back even 10 pages on everything from encircled "c" or "k" on products, illuminati symbols on products, international corporate "c", and there are more year or 2 year videos and barely anything going back that far. I've read the sub titles comments and was only able to find the chip insertion plan, lots of those, but I also stumbled as I always do on this one concerning admission by a "vaccine pioneer admitting he added cancer virus to it.

Here's a link and perhaps this question that I've already found knowledge on 5 years ago, will pop up somewhere as you research. It's how we all find out little pieces and I simply can't catch everyone up by holding every search tool or video for years, until those who don't know catch up. I'm sorry it's not as easily accessible as it was 5 years ago, but they've taken so many of our "little flashlights" off the net to keep people in the dark, something that important to be able to discern safe products to live, surely would have gone with the rest. But perhaps some others have spread it on their page and you too will stumble on some of the whistleblowers. hey, I didn't try that title. Whistleblower tells of true meaning of encircled 'c" or "k" illuminati symbols. the stars are telling.

Oh, here's the video of the pioneer admitting adding the cancer virus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13QiSV_lrDQ&liste=PLDE885098420D36EB

I wish you luck and if you really want to find this, ask your guide, what the heck is Lifebringer talking about as you search, perhaps they know.

Good luck in the search and remember if they do this in one product we use, they do this in all the products we use.

Love
LB

[loungelizard]

This code tells the elites if they have tainted or carcinogenic produce in their midst. I understand every elite nation has one that they serve others in the grocery markets and they get top choice. I saw the coding on a YT video and I believe it's been mentioned by a few whisleblowers, during the time we found out about "round-up" killing the bees. WE were identifying harmful foods and I stumbled on about 3-4 videos telling of the encircled "c" and I believe the other alphabet for them to know they have "save" foods is "k" encircled.


A symbol K on food packaging signifies that it is kosher. Simple. No conspiracy here ;)

[Lifebringer]

Dropped another link to whistleblowers that are telling very good one and a couple are bringing back fresh memory on the trail.

Jeesh, I've really got to sign up for healthcare now, I told you, I had some development for me I was doing. I hope you find all you seek loungelizard, it was really mind blowing when I did.

Have a great weekend, gotta sign for healthcare, the deadline is tomorrow and that's my day of rest according to covenant.

[heyokah]

This code tells the elites if they have tainted or carcinogenic produce in their midst. I understand every elite nation has one that they serve others in the grocery markets and they get top choice. I saw the coding on a YT video and I believe it's been mentioned by a few whisleblowers, during the time we found out about "round-up" killing the bees. WE were identifying harmful foods and I stumbled on about 3-4 videos telling of the encircled "c" and I believe the other alphabet for them to know they have "save" foods is "k" encircled.

This symbol appears on most corporate ag produce and perhaps the encircled "c" is because it is encorporated. But that was about 4 years ago and I've dumped a lot of my video on my fave as I do every year to prevent virus attacks by holding them too long with Microsoft. In fact it might be on this page after I fond the "founder of HIV/AIDS.

Here's a trail to search the "tube" and good luck, try using the title encircled "c" products on YT and maybe it will come up, but as I said it may come up after watching a video, and then the ones after the video is played, may have held the title that made me click on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7O/x8YGI

I've dealt in the lab and viral education going through med school, this guy has so much blood/disease on his hands. Robert Gallo, probably of the Gallo's, decided to religiously pursue a way to end homosexual, or prostitutional behaviors, and eliminate those who didn't conform.

Evil at it's purest form, busted by a very good reporter/journalist, that did his homework.

PS, I call him Dr. Plague.
PSS Millions around the world effected, including a family member of mine, and this guy is still walking the planet. He's got to be their #1demonic member. Don't they rise in rank, through body/murder count?

I can't find anything about an encircled C for food. However I know about the “CODES OF LIFE AND DEATH”.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2d6tthe.png http://i41.tinypic.com/14nfv4x.png

We know that the Elites are poisoning the food supply of America and probably in Europe as well. Nothing new.
The good thing is: We have the codes for the safe food stuffs.
Whenever you see a Capital U with a circle around it, or a Capital K with a Triangle around it, the food is safe.

These Codes cover “All” harmful ingredients in food, known and unknown to us, and not only the GMOs.

Update

It seems that a K and a U are also used as Kosher Certifications.

:(:rolleyes::confused:

[heyokah]

This code tells the elites if they have tainted or carcinogenic produce in their midst. I understand every elite nation has one that they serve others in the grocery markets and they get top choice. I saw the coding on a YT video and I believe it's been mentioned by a few whisleblowers, during the time we found out about "round-up" killing the bees. WE were identifying harmful foods and I stumbled on about 3-4 videos telling of the encircled "c" and I believe the other alphabet for them to know they have "save" foods is "k" encircled.


A symbol K on food packaging signifies that it is kosher. Simple. No conspiracy here ;)

Yes, the code for kosher is K in a circle not in a triangle ;)

http://i43.tinypic.com/2heiluv.png

[heyokah]

Maybe the "k" in your country. I've seen it in my neck of the grocery stores all the time, and I'm a fixed income person, so if you're not seeing it, perhaps you are what they consider worthy of not poisoning. Anyway, take a stroll on the more poorer sides of the town, shopping markets and scan the shelves, as if you're looking for nutritional values, and turn the label around. Now they say on these video's that it's one of the "marks" of the beast on products. Yeah, that's what I thought, until I did a little more research and found after about like 2=3-4 videos, that there was something to it and it goes to the donation charities. This made me check on tainted vaccines, which led me to Bill Gates and the depop program and agenda 21.

Lots of stuff to blow your mind and for a while I had to sit for two or three days absorbing, praying and contemplating with a more focused intent for exposure. Start with the video I just left about Robert Gallo and his "college, desertation." I think that's how its spelled where a graduating student presents something they've focused on by given assignment, where they research and then turn it in? Yep, this journalist really did his homework. I love how visibly uncomfortable this Gallo guy gets, when he's repeatedly presented with his own words, articles in the science reviews and other literature, that busts him so royally, he should have got "crowned." Just a pun LOL.

The Robert Gallo video you gave in your reply #34 is 'unavailable" :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7O/x8YG

[loungelizard]

Yes, the code for kosher is K in a circle not in a triangle ;)

http://i43.tinypic.com/2heiluv.png


Different kosher agencies have different trademarked kosher symbols - the K might be inside a star, or a triangle, or a square...it means the food stuff is kosher, whatever the shape around the K.

This gives more detail for the triangle trademark:


Kosher Food Supervision and Certification of Manufacturers, Products and Plants Around the World

The Triangle symbol is a patented and trademarked logo that signifies "kashrut" as defined by the most stringent of Orthodox Jewish law.
The organization offers it's rabbinical supervision and certification on any ingredient or product that meets the strictest criteria of what makes such items kosher.
The food business has become a multi-billion dollar industry. Mass production and national and international distribution has brought new pressures to bear on company profits, production quantity, ingredient complexity and product diversification. And the reliability of Kosher food certification has become a key figure in the company's bottom line profit margin and customer satisfaction.

http://www.trianglek.org/

Apologies for sidetracking this thread :o - my purpose was clarification...

[heyokah]

Yes, the code for kosher is K in a circle not in a triangle ;)

http://i43.tinypic.com/2heiluv.png

Different kosher agencies have different trademarked kosher symbols - the K might be inside a star, or a triangle, or a square...it means the food stuff is kosher, whatever the shape around the K.

This gives more detail for the triangle trademark:

Kosher Food Supervision and Certification of Manufacturers, Products and Plants Around the World

The Triangle symbol is a patented and trademarked logo that signifies "kashrut" as defined by the most stringent of Orthodox Jewish law.
The organization offers it's rabbinical supervision and certification on any ingredient or product that meets the strictest criteria of what makes such items kosher.
The food business has become a multi-billion dollar industry. Mass production and national and international distribution has brought new pressures to bear on company profits, production quantity, ingredient complexity and product diversification. And the reliability of Kosher food certification has become a key figure in the company's bottom line profit margin and customer satisfaction.

http://www.trianglek.org/

Apologies for sidetracking this thread :o - my purpose was clarification...


And now I found this ! LOL

Products that have been certified as kosher are labeled with kosher symbols. The symbols are printed on the food’s package. Kosher symbols are registered trademarks of kosher certification organizations, and cannot be placed on a food label without the organization’s permission.

Kosher symbols not only ensure that the food is kosher, they also identify the kosher certifying organization that issued the certification. This guide identifies the kosher certifying agencies behind the most commonly used kosher symbols in the United States. More information about each agency, and the kosher standards it maintains, can be found on the agency’s site.


In interpreting ancient dietary laws and adapting them to modern technology, different rabbis have different views about what exactly passes as kosher.
The OU symbol, belonging to the Orthodox Union, is one of the strictest kosher standards on the market today.
http://i40.tinypic.com/6jms78.gif

The OU has been certifying kosher products for over 80 years.
Their first kosher certification went to Heinz. In 1923 Heinz Vegetarian Beans became the first American product to display the OU kosher symbol.

In addition, the OU is the world’s largest kosher certifying agency.
Some of the famous companies that carry the OU symbol include Coca-Cola, General Mills, Heinz, Kraft Foods, Nabisco Biscuit Co., Pillsbury, Procter & Gamble, and Veryfine Products.
The OU certifies over 2300 companies with 4500 plants in 70 countries with a total of over 300,000 labels.

The Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations (OU)
11 Broadway, New York, NY 10004
Phone; (212) 613-8241; Fax: (212) 564-9058
Site: http://oukosher.org/

And to make it even more confusing:

Triangle-K certification is awarded by a consortium of Orthodox Jewish rabbis who desire to see as wide a range of food products as possible made available to kosher consumers worldwide.

To this end, Triangle-K and Associates works side by side on an individual basis with each of their clients to create reasonable and cost effective certification and supervision programs.

http://i41.tinypic.com/14nfv4x.png


Examples of Triangle-K certified products are Hebrew National, Valley Fig, Sunmaid, Sunsweet, Diamond Walnut, Hazelnut Growers, Minute Maid Juices, Yoo-Hoo, Sunny Delight, Wonder Bread, Del Monte Fruits and Vegetables, Frito-Lay Corn Chips and Potato Chips, Mogen-David Wine, Bird’s Eye Vegetables and Fruits, Ocean Spray Cranberry Drinks, Jellies and Sauces, Hawaiian Punch, Mott’s, and Kraft Puddings.

Triangle-K and Associates, Inc.
225 West 86th Street
New York, New York 10024 USA
Phone: (212) 877-1823; Fax: (212) 595-7966
Site: http://www.trianglek.org/

:faint:

[Flash]

This code tells the elites if they have tainted or carcinogenic produce in their midst. I understand every elite nation has one that they serve others in the grocery markets and they get top choice. I saw the coding on a YT video and I believe it's been mentioned by a few whisleblowers, during the time we found out about "round-up" killing the bees. WE were identifying harmful foods and I stumbled on about 3-4 videos telling of the encircled "c" and I believe the other alphabet for them to know they have "save" foods is "k" encircled.

This symbol appears on most corporate ag produce and perhaps the encircled "c" is because it is encorporated. But that was about 4 years ago and I've dumped a lot of my video on my fave as I do every year to prevent virus attacks by holding them too long with Microsoft. In fact it might be on this page after I fond the "founder of HIV/AIDS.

Here's a trail to search the "tube" and good luck, try using the title encircled "c" products on YT and maybe it will come up, but as I said it may come up after watching a video, and then the ones after the video is played, may have held the title that made me click on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDxZ7O/x8YGI

I've dealt in the lab and viral education going through med school, this guy has so much blood/disease on his hands. Robert Gallo, probably of the Gallo's, decided to religiously pursue a way to end homosexual, or prostitutional behaviors, and eliminate those who didn't conform.

Evil at it's purest form, busted by a very good reporter/journalist, that did his homework.

PS, I call him Dr. Plague.
PSS Millions around the world effected, including a family member of mine, and this guy is still walking the planet. He's got to be their #1demonic member. Don't they rise in rank, through body/murder count?

I can't find anything about an encircled C for food. However I know about the “CODES OF LIFE AND DEATH”.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2d6tthe.png http://i41.tinypic.com/14nfv4x.png

We know that the Elites are poisoning the food supply of America and probably in Europe as well. Nothing new.
The good thing is: We have the codes for the safe food stuffs.
Whenever you see a Capital U with a circle around it, or a Capital K with a Triangle around it, the food is safe.

These Codes cover “All” harmful ingredients in food, known and unknown to us, and not only the GMOs.

Update

It seems that a K and a U are also used as Kosher Certifications.

:(:rolleyes::confused:

Yes, those codes are not SAFETY codes as such, but Kosher certification, meaning they are religiously safe to consume for the Jewish population. But let me tell you, lots of not very healthy food in the Jewish cuisine (of course not the original cuisine, like for most of the world, but the actual cuisine).

You see cakes made we flour that is highly processed, cheeses that are made the same way than any other cheeses, those codes only mean the food has been inspected by a rabbi, not that they are GMO or pesticide or preservative free.

This Kosher coding comes back regularly on Avalon. The Jewish elite must be laughting their butt out if reading these comments here.

[observer]

This "phenomenon" has been observed for centuries and is caused by spiders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_%28spider%29) which use their silk to travel by air. Obviously, its going to take more than one spider to produce the volume of fibres noticed in the videos here, but get this: over one million spiders (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef622.asp) can live in a one acre grassy field. Check this out . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdgrhNw7Ko

In an incredible moment of synchronicity, I happened upon this following video on The Weather Channel. It appears to be the source video from which the link (above) came, Mr. Canceller:

Click-on this link to view The Weather Channel Source Video:
http://www.weather.com/video/thats-not-snow-its-spiders-41977


The Canceller said: ". . . its another splendid example of the many wonders of nature that those who embrace the environment with knowledge and understanding celebrate."

In your "embrace of the environment with knowledge and understanding", you failed to note the reason these spiders clustered together as they did.


From The Weather Channel video: "Thousands of spiders have cast eerie webs over vast areas of flood hit Australia after being forced to seek shelter by the rising flood waters".

Apparently, and from further watching The Weather Channel video, one discovers this unusual phenomenon only occurred in the masses it did when these species of spiders were seeking shelter from flood waters.

The fibers that were reported in heyokah's OP, and the fibers that are being reported around the planet by those who are watching this chemtrail phenomenon have nothing to do with rising flood waters.

[The Canceller]

This "phenomenon" has been observed for centuries and is caused by spiders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_%28spider%29) which use their silk to travel by air. Obviously, its going to take more than one spider to produce the volume of fibres noticed in the videos here, but get this: over one million spiders (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef622.asp) can live in a one acre grassy field. Check this out . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdgrhNw7Ko

In an incredible moment of synchronicity, I happened upon this following video on The Weather Channel. It appears to be the source video from which the link (above) came, Mr. Canceller:

Click-on this link to view The Weather Channel Source Video:
http://www.weather.com/video/thats-not-snow-its-spiders-41977


The Canceller said: ". . . its another splendid example of the many wonders of nature that those who embrace the environment with knowledge and understanding celebrate."

In your "embrace of the environment with knowledge and understanding", you failed to note the reason these spiders clustered together as they did.


From The Weather Channel video: "Thousands of spiders have cast eerie webs over vast areas of flood hit Australia after being forced to seek shelter by the rising flood waters".

Apparently, and from further watching The Weather Channel video, one discovers this unusual phenomenon only occurred in the masses it did when these species of spiders were seeking shelter from flood waters.

The fibers that were reported in heyokah's OP, and the fibers that are being reported around the planet by those who are watching this chemtrail phenomenon have nothing to do with rising flood waters.

Sure . . . the Australian example was wonderful. Here's a more prosaic one from the US . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QJV9kqOzY

[carriellbee]

What more evidence do you want? Look up. Proof is there.
Don't expect someone to write a thesis on chemtrails. Scientists and universities are paid by the Government. They don't want to lose their jobs.

But I think your mind is already made up. My job isn't to convince you of something you don't want to believe.
My job is to protect me and the ones I love by what I know to be the truth at this point.

Secondary to that is to combat disinformation. One of these pieces of disinformation that "debunkers" like to spread is the belief that Occam's razor is some hard and fast rule that theories must pass before they can be accepted.
The implication is that if a competing theory is simpler, then more complex theories which require more assumptions cannot be true.
This is one of the disinformation movement's secret weapons.

Occam's razor is not some scientific law that ideas have to conform to in order to be plausible. It's nothing more than a philosophical tie-breaker.
In fact, Occam's razor (or, the parsimony argument) is only useful if competing theories are equally plausible.
Personally, I believe that there is more reason to believe that chemtrails are just that - chemtrails.
I have yet to see a strong argument supporting any of the following:

1) chemtrails are the same as contrails
2) chemtrails don't exist
3) chemtrails are harmless

Dear Canceller, I leave it at that, because I'm not going to spend more time on you. There is enough information here on the forum or on the internet.

Hope you won't end up as a chemtroll :rolleyes:

Well and respectfully stated, heyokah. Thank you.

[Atlas]

This "phenomenon" has been observed for centuries and is caused by spiders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_%28spider%29) which use their silk to travel by air. Obviously, its going to take more than one spider to produce the volume of fibres noticed in the videos here, but get this: over one million spiders (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef622.asp) can live in a one acre grassy field. Check this out . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdgrhNw7Ko

In an incredible moment of synchronicity, I happened upon this following video on The Weather Channel. It appears to be the source video from which the link (above) came, Mr. Canceller:

Click-on this link to view The Weather Channel Source Video:
http://www.weather.com/video/thats-not-snow-its-spiders-41977


The Canceller said: ". . . its another splendid example of the many wonders of nature that those who embrace the environment with knowledge and understanding celebrate."

In your "embrace of the environment with knowledge and understanding", you failed to note the reason these spiders clustered together as they did.


From The Weather Channel video: "Thousands of spiders have cast eerie webs over vast areas of flood hit Australia after being forced to seek shelter by the rising flood waters".

Apparently, and from further watching The Weather Channel video, one discovers this unusual phenomenon only occurred in the masses it did when these species of spiders were seeking shelter from flood waters.

The fibers that were reported in heyokah's OP, and the fibers that are being reported around the planet by those who are watching this chemtrail phenomenon have nothing to do with rising flood waters.

Sure . . . the Australian example was wonderful. Here's a more prosaic one from the US . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QJV9kqOzY

Ballooning, sometimes called kiting, is a behaviour in which spiders and some other invertebrates use air-borne dispersal to move between locations (wikipedia.org/Ballooning_(spider) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_(spider))). This is something that has been observed for centuries.

Here's an example of what this looks like:

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_Spider_ballooning__Muse um_Victoria_20111024_071042.jpg
museumvictoria.com.au/spider-ballooning (http://museumvictoria.com.au/discoverycentre/discovery-centre-news/2011-archive/spider-ballooning/)

This has always happened, and it's always been confusing people. It was only relatively recently (the 1700s) that people realized the "gossamer" that sometimes coats fields actually came from spider, and was thought to come from evaporated dew. Folk tales and superstitions persist, and now it seems a new folk tale is born, with "chem-webs".

Some great first hand accounts of spider ballooning, and the resultant fibrous fallout, is found in the 1890 book American Spiders and their Spinning Work, by Henry Christopher Mc Cook, Chapter 9, pages 256-282:

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_American_spiders_and_th eir_spinning1d7d3373a17720ca24ba7ffb4a8ff8e2.jpg

And the book quotes an even older source, from 1741:

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_American_spiders_and_th eir_spinning9aa5465cf28da933e1a130aa504add75.jpg

(Source (https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-chemwebs-mysterious-fibers-fall-from-sky-ballooning-spiders.287/))

[observer]

Reply to comment #51

Thank you, buares, for further confirming the "ballooning" phenomenon. There is no doubt that spiders can account for much of the fibers being reported. That fact was stipulated to in comment #48 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66007-Mystery-fibres-drop-from-sky&p=769204&viewfull=1#post769204), where it was confirmed the spiders were using the 'ballooning effect' to escape from flood waters.

How though, does ballooning spiders account for this phenomenon?

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b509/POV_At_Exit_0/Morgellons_zpseddbd0bb.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/POV_At_Exit_0/media/Morgellons_zpseddbd0bb.jpg.html)
Fibers Associated to Morgellons

[Atlas]

Hi observer,

There is absolutely no link between silken threads from ballooning spiders and morgellons. The fibers falling from the sky are spider webs and are not related to morgellons.

On another forum, some poster noticed that the elite is inexplicably immune to morgellons, his guess is that they have a vaccine. Therefore, a cure does exist.

[Sidney]

This "phenomenon" has been observed for centuries and is caused by spiders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_%28spider%29) which use their silk to travel by air. Obviously, its going to take more than one spider to produce the volume of fibres noticed in the videos here, but get this: over one million spiders (http://www2.ca.uky.edu/entomology/entfacts/ef622.asp) can live in a one acre grassy field. Check this out . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILdgrhNw7Ko

In an incredible moment of synchronicity, I happened upon this following video on The Weather Channel. It appears to be the source video from which the link (above) came, Mr. Canceller:

Click-on this link to view The Weather Channel Source Video:
http://www.weather.com/video/thats-not-snow-its-spiders-41977


The Canceller said: ". . . its another splendid example of the many wonders of nature that those who embrace the environment with knowledge and understanding celebrate."

In your "embrace of the environment with knowledge and understanding", you failed to note the reason these spiders clustered together as they did.


From The Weather Channel video: "Thousands of spiders have cast eerie webs over vast areas of flood hit Australia after being forced to seek shelter by the rising flood waters".

Apparently, and from further watching The Weather Channel video, one discovers this unusual phenomenon only occurred in the masses it did when these species of spiders were seeking shelter from flood waters.

The fibers that were reported in heyokah's OP, and the fibers that are being reported around the planet by those who are watching this chemtrail phenomenon have nothing to do with rising flood waters.

Sure . . . the Australian example was wonderful. Here's a more prosaic one from the US . . .



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_QJV9kqOzY

Ballooning, sometimes called kiting, is a behaviour in which spiders and some other invertebrates use air-borne dispersal to move between locations (wikipedia.org/Ballooning_(spider) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballooning_(spider))). This is something that has been observed for centuries.

Here's an example of what this looks like:

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_Spider_ballooning__Muse um_Victoria_20111024_071042.jpg
museumvictoria.com.au/spider-ballooning (http://museumvictoria.com.au/discoverycentre/discovery-centre-news/2011-archive/spider-ballooning/)

This has always happened, and it's always been confusing people. It was only relatively recently (the 1700s) that people realized the "gossamer" that sometimes coats fields actually came from spider, and was thought to come from evaporated dew. Folk tales and superstitions persist, and now it seems a new folk tale is born, with "chem-webs".

Some great first hand accounts of spider ballooning, and the resultant fibrous fallout, is found in the 1890 book American Spiders and their Spinning Work, by Henry Christopher Mc Cook, Chapter 9, pages 256-282:

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_American_spiders_and_th eir_spinning1d7d3373a17720ca24ba7ffb4a8ff8e2.jpg

And the book quotes an even older source, from 1741:

https://www.metabunk.org/data/MetaMirrorCache/contrailscience.com_skitch_American_spiders_and_th eir_spinning9aa5465cf28da933e1a130aa504add75.jpg

(Source (https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-chemwebs-mysterious-fibers-fall-from-sky-ballooning-spiders.287/))

Just to clarify, yes spiders do fly via web ballooning. However, that cannot take away the fact that chemtrailing fibers not only exist, but they leave behind clumps of fiber that looks exactly like the clump of debri in the above photo. It should also not take away the fact that these chemtrail fibers have the exact chemical make up of the fibers that are emitted from the skin of morgellon sufferers.

spiders fly in webs-check
chemtrail tankers drop payloads full of silk "looking" fibers-check
morgellons is probably caused by chemtrail debri-check

[Atlas]

chemtrail tankers drop payloads full of silk "looking" fibers-check
morgellons is probably caused by chemtrail debri-check

Elites are immune-check ;)

How do elites escape chemtrails? (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread880344/pg1&mem=)


it seems silly that they would poison themselves [...] they could be taking tablets that protect them from the effects.


Because they know how to avoid the side affects by using antidotes and supplements.


So then, where are these hundreds of thousands of family members getting their antidotes and who is making and providing the antidotes to said people?


Why would elites chemtrail themselves along with us?


the elites are of an alien origin, and are not affected by what affects us.


What if there were a type of fruit and vitamin that you could taken which would negate the effects of what they are spaying all over the place


So yea, why would they be dumping stuff that's just gonna kill us all . makes no sense.


because they have RH blood type.


where are these antidotes being made,who is transporting them and what about the people who make these antidotes are they in on this conspiracy?


Because the elite don't take vaccines and the masses do.


Actually the elite avoid it easily [...] they don't get vaccinated and/or ingest fluoride and they are good as gold.


The elite may stay inside more, use umbrellas when outside, utilize better air filters in their homes and vehicles.




we take a pill monthly that cost 10,000 dollars that totally counters chemtrails effects....if you can afford the pill you can also be one of us....
So if your are on the pill, you also know who is going to be the next President, care to share?
Obama will be still.... mark my words....


Because the upper .1% don't live anywhere near where the chemtrails are. When and if they ever need to go there the chemtrails stop a week or so before they step foot off their plane.


access to deep undergrounds and advanced filtration security measures.

[Sidney]

Ha ha!!yes they are. But one day karma will come around. Maybe not in this lifetime, but it will.

[heyokah]

Here's an interview with Dr. Hildegarde Staniger PH.D Industrial Toxicologist/IH and Doctor of Integrative Medicine

Imagine your body pocked by erupting sores, the sensation of little bugs crawling just below the surface of your flesh, and worst of all, mysterious, hideous looking fibers sprouting from your skin.
It may sound like a scene from a science fiction movie, but a growing legion of Americans, sixty thousand of them, now suffer from this condition.

Join us as Dr. Hildegarde Staninger fills us in on the terrible affliction known as Morgellons".
Learn how what appear to be nanorobotic "assemblers" replicate from the inside out, from the digestive system to the skin, and how the composition of chemtrail fibers matches that of some of the fibers found on Morgellons sufferers

Are these nanorobots in our food? Can we protect ourselves from them?

!!!

Well worth listening to.
This researcher claims that Morgellons fibres come from chemtrails, i.e. we are being sprayed by nanobots, especially hot in SOCAL and Texas and Florida, 100,000 cases worldwide, sufferers have an awful time with the most awful skin irritations.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JchfWlqbVxw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7egMsglgpw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4AOzZMkRzM