Large planetoid object?

[seleka]

This was also introduced in the Ison thread and needs its own thread. As far as we know, all these occurrences are unrelated. If it turns out that ison, this planetoid object, the 4 ufos incoming, and the spheres made of stars on google sky are related, we will ask for a merge then. For now, I felt clarity of direction may get more research and answers (and questions hehe). So- here it is-

It is hard to remember how to get the picture here and the gif, so I just put the links for now.
On this page, look at the HI cameras.
http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/sccimages/

here is a video someone made and they titled it ison, but I don't understand where ison is in the view. You can see something tracking in from the left.

http://spaceweathergallery.com/full_image.php?image_name=piero-d5d13925afe7f4067d98233457be8fcb_1385988842.gif

Again, I am not trying to 'take any credit' for discovering this or 'being the first to post', it just needs a thread.

Edit: oh yeah, and the half images from STEREO (bottom of images)

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/beacon_secchi.shtml

when looking at this page there is no label on the anomaly. Someone suggested it might be jupiter or saturn... but jjupiter is labeled in one of these and is significantly smaller on this image

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/

http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/

aha- there are a lot of vids... here is one. apparently it appeared and disappeared quickly?

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He says it is a light reflection


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[Sidney]

It looks like a reflection to me, in the videos.

That said, you do know what NASA stands for right? LOL Never A Straight Answer

[seleka]

23993the gif in the first post is labeled ison, but shows this anomaly tracking towards the sun, not away. I try to post it, but it only comes out as a picture, no movement.

[Kalamos]

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[Lifebringer]

Why would the sun be on that side, if mercury is closer to it than earth? The video says that mercury is the top one, so that would mean that the sun should be on the left side of the screen where this planet appears and disappears. At least I thought Mercury was closer to the sun, then Venus, then Earth, then Mars, right?

But this video is showing the opposite as if there is a sun behind the Earth and Mercury is the furtherorbit from the sun if that in fact is the sun on the right side of the video screen?

Just wondering why it's saying one thing, and showing another.

[seleka]

I saw a video of it one of the links you shared around. Maybe you could find the link (or me, after a nap)

This is very interesting stuff you're sharing, thanks!

I too slept some. I need more info on what you want me to give link too. I just got this from the ison thread, written by loveoneanother.

Go to this link http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/index.php?p=js_secchi click on the third picture, HI. Scroll down to the date section and insert 20131130, then click submit query at bottom to see the movie straight from nasa's cam. There is definitely something there IMO. Why isn't this being talked about? I have been asleep for a while, maybe there is new info...

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Why would the sun be on that side, if mercury is closer to it than earth? The video says that mercury is the top one, so that would mean that the sun should be on the left side of the screen where this planet appears and disappears. At least I thought Mercury was closer to the sun, then Venus, then Earth, then Mars, right?

But this video is showing the opposite as if there is a sun behind the Earth and Mercury is the furtherorbit from the sun if that in fact is the sun on the right side of the video screen?

Just wondering why it's saying one thing, and showing another.


Please tell me which movie or picture we are talking about?

[seleka]

I am digging for any new info. I will just update this post as I find things likely, since no one else is commenting much... Is everyone just stunned? Too many times you thought planet x was here and thinking it is the same old line? I have seen prediction videos, read channeled stuff- but this is photographic evidence, isn't it? something is there? but I sure hope whatever it is is a positive thing... maybe it is an orb of love? or a forcefield being sent to us to protect us from some sun rays or something? is it like only there because we talk about it? I am not trying to think a planet (or comet, or any doom) is going to slam into us or anything... I just see something weird and want to know what it is...

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In this video, he takes a look at some of the known anomalies that have occurred with this equipment in the past, from the artifact page of secchi I think
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latest secchi image
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2013/12/02/ahead/hi1/1024/20131202_211801_s7h1A.jpg


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[marlowe]

If this large planetoid object had appeared 4 years ago ;before Fukushima ,Before
ISON and Before the BP gulf oil spill people would be all over this thing....

but for some reason it's no big deal...

It is STUNNING :jaw::flame:

[seleka]

Now that the lisbon info about ison is out, maybe it is a shield coming in to protect us. We are special creatures after all

oh I was looking for a fingers crossed smiley but lost patience

[marlowe]

Now that the lisbon info about ison is out, maybe it is a shield coming in to protect us. We are special creatures after all

oh I was looking for a fingers crossed smiley but lost patience

@ seleka...I kinda doubt the ETs see us a special.....Fukushima will probably kill the oceans in a generation or two...
The ETs might know a way to neutralize the radiation But the price will be to kill off 5 or 6 Billion people ...

especially those who lack a conscience..IMHO...

[seleka]

are we invisible? how is it possible that no one is reviewing this thread? Am I in an alternate universe? other forums would have too many responses, and mostly just doom signs and bs signs... I mean I appreciate that this forum is classier and more intelligent- but how is it possible we see a large object heading our way and no one is talking.... ohhhhhhhhh... I get it now, they aren't even online! They all knew to be ready and have bugged out for the hills? (or they think this is a mistake of the lens?) This looks like something so huge, even if it isn't tracking towards us, something from the gravity would affect us? I studied the nibiru/ second sun/ brown dwarf stuff before, but to actually have it show up? If I were a NASA scientist I would be all over this. They aren't all clones/ aliens/ hybrids/ mind controlled/ satanist pedophiles; some are just scientists. Maybe they don't get any high level access? Too much silence.

I am eagerly awaiting new images and movies... some have not been updated since 11-27


here is another video of someone saying it is error.

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AHA! I found everyone! They are on glp! I will go read up there, but comment here, the people there cause my blood pressure to rise.

[seleka]

Explained?

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an eclipse? only visible from space?

new picture from stereo
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/browse/2013/12/03/ahead/hi1/1024/20131203_071801_s7h1A.jpg

while losing myself in the billions of posts and getting dizzy, I came across this link. I liked the excerpt I read so far. http://home.earthlink.net/~gnosisla/March5.html

to see the images in a movie, go here (http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/images) and use this input

Telescope: Ahead HI1
Resolution: 2048 x 2048
Display: Slideshow
Start Date: 20131128

[panopticon]

I don't know whether this is helpful.

View from STEREO A(head) HI-1 with planets marked (Sun is to the right of frame and I think that's the Pleiades is to the left of Mercury):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=24002&d=1386060136

Simple plot of present position of STEREO:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=24003&d=1386060162

Complex plot of present position of STEREO:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=24001&d=1386060136

The image that resembles a planet looks like an image artefact.

Hope this helps.

-- Pan

Sources:
http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/beacon/planets/
http://stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov/where/

[McMaster]

I would say artifact or a lens flare. I've never heard of a transparent planetoid before.

[seleka]

My posts are perhaps too long. I kept adding to my last one. Here is a movie that will help, but you have to build it yourself.
go here (http://stereo.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/images) and use this input

Telescope: Ahead HI1
Resolution: 2048 x 2048
Display: Slideshow
Start Date: 20131128

The large planetoid object is said to be a shadow from the eclipse that happened that day by a woman above in a brief vid. The mass that many thought was the same thing is coming in from the left still. Pan said it was the Pleiadies (I know I spelled it wrong but i am barely awake). I was up reading at the other forum since no one was here and it scarred me.... all the name calling and infantile behavior...and the knitting video? really? I am glad to have people respond here, where everyone seems so much nicer.

[seleka]

I think that's the Pleiades is to the left of Mercury):

aha! It was pan that said Pleiades!



Simple plot of present position of STEREO:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=24003&d=1386060162

Complex plot of present position of STEREO:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=24001&d=1386060136

The image that resembles a planet looks like an image artefact.

Hope this helps.

-- Pan



I have looked at all the 'artifacts' and it does not resemble any of them to me. I did that before posting this thread I am pretty sure. Now this is not directed towards you, but why is an error in picture taking, like a hair on a lens, space dust, plasma bubbles... whatever they are, why is it referred to as an 'artifact'? that is a strange use of the word based on its common uses and meanings. I know it is a definition, listed by a dictionary... but was it always?

Anyway- I wish the diagram did help, but I have issues with spaciality and visualising. I want to figure out how the shadow of the eclipse produced that anomaly... maybe there is a youtuber has already put it together... I would need a 3d model probably.

[seleka]

bpearthwatch talking about it... I wish the people that are supposed to be our foremost minds in space technology would just get on and tell us if it was a shadow from the eclipse... he says they scrubbed the image, haven't confirmed... my apathy is getting strong
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All the places I have been looking at the secchi images still has this thing in it, I have not yet seen this 'scrubbed' footage.

This is related however, if this planetoid object was nearby. I too have seen the peculiar lightening in the west at dawn... if there is something there- and I am searching hard to prove the woman correct on the youtube vid that claims it was caused by the eclipse... but no one is explaining how that could have happened yet.

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[panopticon]

Went back and watched the videos in this thread finally.

First off, Dr. Keith Strong is a very reliable source of information, in my opinion, and I watch his youtube channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/drkstrong/videos) regularly.

He is a solar physicist who is happy to explain what certain things mean and is very patient. His twitter feed is available here (https://twitter.com/drkstrong).

Dr Strong is referring to an eclipse that occurred between the SDO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_Dynamics_Observatory), Moon and Sun.

It has nothing to do with the H1-A image (this is part of the SECCHI instrumentation on STEREO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STEREO) Ahead).

SDO is in a geosynchronous orbit around the Earth at ~36,000 kilometres.
This is much closer than the Moon is to Earth (~385,000 kilometres atm).

STEREO Ahead and Behind are on the other side of the Sun and never have problems with the Moon eclipsing their view of said star.

Look at the below image and imagine SDO where Earth is and the A and B where the various STEREO satellites are to get an indication (they are approximately in the same plane so the 2d representation works quite well):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=24003&d=1386060162

Have a look back through some of the H1 images from SECCHI and these sort of things pop up all the time.

http://secchi.nrl.navy.mil/sccimages/HI_A/20070524/512/20070524_100900_tbh1A.png

Every time these things happen someone says it's Nibiru/Wormwood/Nemesis etc and every time it is a reflection (or something similar) off the internals of the H1 or H2 camera or lens flare.

For more information on the SECCHI H1 instrument try:
http://www.stereo.rl.ac.uk/

For information on the raw .fts data conversion process try:
http://www.stereo.rl.ac.uk/Documents/HI_user_guidejuly.pdf

For pre-launch calibration and post-launch analysis of H1 & H2 instrumentation try:
http://orbi.ulg.ac.be/bitstream/2268/23548/1/95%20SPIE%202007%20hi.pdf

Hope this is of help.

-- Pan

[seleka]

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/astronomy/conspiracy-or-lens-flare/20605319

"Conspiracy or Lens Flare?
December 03, 2013; 7:59 AM

It is not unusual to find unusual satellite images on various websites that seem to get conspiracy theories started. Those conspiracy theories then make an appearance in the comments on our AccuWeather Astronomy Facebook posts. Often, when an image from one of the solar imaging satellites shows a lens flare or something else unexpected, or a few images are missing from the normal schedule for a given satellite, the conspiracy theories really get going. "NASA is hiding 'the truth'" about what is showing on an image, or "NASA is suppressing photos that show something 'they don't want us to know.'" To be honest, we get a good laugh at this kind of thing but are also frustrated that people want to latch on to a conspiracy theory, rather than look for a simple explanation for what they are seeing, or not seeing.

A series of images from the SECCHI Overview imaging equipment on one of the STEREO satellites showed a circular "artifact," a term used in imaging, on several images on Nov. 28, 2013.

The following image is one of the first images where the artifact appears.

This unexplained artifact showed up on a handful of consecutive images, then disappeared on later images. Shortly thereafter, conspiracy theories started popping up that it was "Nibiru," "Planet X" and any number of other crazy possibilities. That the artifact disappeared completely from the next image was "proof" that NASA was hiding evidence of something and doctoring images.

We were intrigued to find out exactly what was in the images, not because we believed that it was anything shocking or some great new discovery, but because we are curious, and figured that there was probably a simple explanation, not a fantastic one. Daniel Vogler of the AccuWeather Astronomy team put together a GIF loop of the images to see how the images looked in sequence and started to do some research to find out what might be causing the interesting artifact.

You can see his GIF loop by clicking here.

After a short time, he was able to determine that a particular star cluster, the Pleiades, was causing the artifact. Because it is so bright, the star cluster can create lens flares on the STEREO satellite images, a very normal occurrence with any bright light source traveling through the view of a lens. You'll often see lens flares when you take a photo on any camera. They show up in photos as bright spots, circles or objects in places where you saw no such thing with your eyes. The next several images show how he was able to determine that the artifact was caused by the Pleiades.

The next image shows the relative positions of the STEREO A satellite, Mercury, Earth and the Pleiades. The red lines show that the Pleiades, Mercury and Earth will appear from left to right respectively in the STEREO A images, as seen in the subsequent image. From our perspective on the Earth, the Pleiades are almost 180 degrees away from the Sun right now, which is also consistent with what appears in this image.

Here is an image showing more of the Pleiades cluster. The Pleiades appear as a dark spot, essentially a negative, inside the artifact.

Here is a view of the Pleiades on Nov. 30, 2013, in a position which does not cause a lens flare for this camera. Mercury appeared just above the Earth from the perspective of the STEREO satellite on that date. Note that lens flares do not necessarily occur in every image when a bright object is in view. It is often the result of a light source outside the view or just at the edge of the view shown by the camera. Light shining on a lens from the side will often cause a lens flare. I have run into this in my own photography, and shading the lens from the side will sometimes minimize or eliminate a lens flare. Lens flares can also show up in an overexposed image, or when an exposure isn't adjusted to account for a bright light source.

The next satellite view, a different one than the others, shows the Pleiades with a little more clarity. Note how much the Pleiades stand out in the image compared to the rest of the stars. This image is not from the last few days. It is only intended to be a clearer image that shows how much the Pleiades can stand out from the background. Because they stand out so much, it is not unusual for them to create a lens flare, with the appropriate angle and exposure. This is a well-known and common problem in satellite imaging. As I have said, bright objects can cause lens flares, and that is no different for satellite imagery.

The moral of the story is that doing a little bit of research, and not latching on to conspiracy theories will, more often than not, lead to an answer as simple as lens flare. Lens flares aren't exciting, like evidence of a NASA conspiracy or evidence of a Planet X or Nibiru, but they are a real phenomenon, unlike Planet X or Nibiru. The next time you see a conspiracy theory about an astronomy event or about NASA, we recommend that you also take the time to look for the simple answer, not the fantastic one. I will not be surprised if, among those who are looking for conspiracies, our effort to debunk a conspiracy theory will be enough to brand us as co-conspirators with NASA. We are happy to wear that eye-rolling title.

Note that we have chosen to not mention specific conspiracy theory web sites in this article, because we see no point in giving them any publicity. If you are curious about them and want to search for them, that is your choice, but we do not think that they are worth looking at for anything other than amusement.

Blog by AccuWeather Astronomy Content Creators Paul Adomshick and Daniel Vogler."

[panopticon]

Got no problem with that explanation.

I thought it might have been either the Pleiades or the solar flare/CME (that appeared from the right of frame just after the "planet" disappeared) causing a lens flare.

-- Pan

[seleka]

I am an investigator and observer. I try not to get hung up on 'believing' anything. Present and listen to all angles given. now I am watching stuff like this....

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[panopticon]

This is a fantastic time of year to watch falling stars.

We've just moved through the Leonids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonids) and going in December into the Geminids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geminids) before January's brief Quadrantids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrantids) showers. List of regular meteor showers here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_meteor_showers).

BTW Dr Strong did a good video on the orbit of ISON:

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Eyes to the sky for some exceptional shows over the coming weeks this Summer. :)

-- Pan

[seleka]

funny, I was just looking for cameras that are on all the time showing meteors. I found this page. http://www.nasa.gov/connect/chat/allsky.html Not all of them work. If you go to this one http://skycam.mmto.arizona.edu/ and do 'archived movies' at the bottom, putting in yesterday's date... its pretty cool

[McMaster]

I am an investigator and observer. I try not to get hung up on 'believing' anything. Present and listen to all angles given. now I am watching stuff like this....


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Who makes these idiotic videos?
On the video it clearly states that it will be "fine grain dust" and then on the screen at same time "city killers"... FFS

[panopticon]

Who makes these idiotic videos?
On the video it clearly states that it will be "fine grain dust" and then on the screen at same time "city killers"... FFS

I know, they carry on that "the end is nigh" :blah: and that we best prepare for the :rapture: and when nout happens they either :pout: or :bolt:

Anyway, here's the original video from NASA (which is much better without the annotations).

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-- Pan