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Flash
6th December 2013, 01:48
This is not a conspiracy anymore, it has arrived.

Google will put on the market an tatooed FRID saying that the Young will get on the bandwagon fast enough just to resist thier parents, well, obviously, the population has been trained in the last 20years to accept tatoos as normality, going to the next step will be a breeze for PTB.

A second RFID chip is being launched which will make your whole body a chip, detectable anywhere you go, by Google too.

Former director at DARPA not Google executive, Regina Dugan, talks about it .

This is very dangerous, it is the new form of slavery. Those chips can communicate both ways, you can receive controlling commands, death threat or death through it, if DARPA or Google decides so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ijwhSqrcD4

I think she looks like an ET, the non sympathetic ones, she gives me the chill.

Robin
6th December 2013, 02:00
Of course they would disguise it's true purpose by luring kids and young adults with the option of choosing your own individual tattoo to hold the chip...

Unbelievable.

chancy
6th December 2013, 02:19
Hello Everyone:

What's great about this propaganda is these people actually think it's a good idea to chip everyone! This is an infomercial with all the sound effects, even of people clapping at this ladies sad but true statements! To say that getting chipped is a good thing and trying to make jokes about it in the same sentence seems unhuman to say the least!

Once you get a chip tattoo you are part of the crowd?

Sounds to me like people need to wake up and smell the roses or the lilacs or lillies or something because our "human" race will be done as soon as people start getting chipped on a mass scale!

Anyone that does this won't technically be human anymore just as the lady talks about your arms, hands, body is the authenticator.

Shame on the humans actually thinking this is a good thing or progression for the "human" race.
chancy

Hervé
6th December 2013, 02:24
From a different GooTube uploader :

Published on Nov 12, 2013
Learn more at: http://www.beast-technology.com/

Audience applauds as Regina E. Dugan -- former Director of DARPA and current executive at Google -- describes with excitement the coming BEAST TECH smart tattoos and ingestible biochips that are ALREADY FDA APPROVED and that people will want to receive (and then be REQUIRED to receive) by 2017. She glows about the "super powers" the MARK will give her and says today's generation wants them too. Unfortunately, as documented in the book BEAST TECH, she is right.




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Hervé
6th December 2013, 02:33
Here is the accompanying documercial:


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I am half way there... look at this post time stamp...:gaah:

RunningDeer
6th December 2013, 03:09
She hits all the programing notes for all ages:

We’re thinking of a whole variety of options of how you can do better.
Everybody is interested in wearables. I’m profoundly interested in wearables.
Dr. Rogers (Mr. Rogers)
10-20 year olds will wear an electronic tattoo if only to piss off their parents
vitamin authentication (specialness and/or too dumb to know who you are)
authentication tattoo...this become my ‘first’ super power
I really want this super power
alligator clips
“When I touch my cell phone, my computer, my door, my car.. I’m authenticated in”
Adds again with emphasis, “first super power...I want that”


Waky-waky http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/fitness/smileys-fitness-478772.gif

Flash
6th December 2013, 03:25
She hits all the programing notes for all ages:

We’re thinking of a whole vary of options of how you can do better.
Everybody is interested in wearables. I’m profoundly interested in wearables.
Dr. Rogers (Mr. Rogers)
10-20 year olds will wear an electronic tattoo if only to piss off their parents
vitamin authentication (specialness and/or too dumb to know who you are)
authentication tattoo...this become my ‘first’ super power
I really want this super power
alligator clips
“When I touch my cell phone, my computer, my door, my car.. I’m authenticated in”
Adds again with emphasis, “first super power...I want that”


Waky-waky http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/fitness/smileys-fitness-478772.gif

Yes, she gives me the chill, perfectly orchestrated, goes right in the unconscious, gosh I dislike those people for what they are doing. If they are people.

Kalamos
6th December 2013, 03:34
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Agape
6th December 2013, 03:38
This is very dangerous, it is the new form of slavery. Those chips can communicate both ways, you can receive controlling commands, death threat or death through it, if DARPA or Google decides so.



If it's 'wearable ' it should be also 'washable' :washing: It's probably also exchangeable and so also vulnerable to misuse .
Remember people would do about anything to pass through exams, borders, doors ..

From what I'm aware of , those they have and show so far work only one way . They are capable of emitting signal on very short frequency , such as your 'ID' or even some biometric data . They don't 'receive signal' or execute orders .

It's the next generation of chips that would integrate with neural network or perform some sort of biological hoopla in your organism on request.


The colonisation has begun ?


:behindsofa:

Flash
6th December 2013, 03:47
This is very dangerous, it is the new form of slavery. Those chips can communicate both ways, you can receive controlling commands, death threat or death through it, if DARPA or Google decides so.



If it's 'wearable ' it should be also 'washable' :washing: It's probably also exchangeable and so also vulnerable to misuse .
Remember people would do about anything to pass through exams, borders, doors ..

From what I'm aware of , those they have and show so far work only one way . They are capable of emitting signal on very short frequency , such as your 'ID' or even some biometric data . They don't 'receive signal' or execute orders .

It's the next generation of chips that would integrate with neural network or perform some sort of biological hoopla in your organism on request.


The colonisation has begun ?


:behindsofa:

I am sure Agape those go both sides already, they just don't tell us yet. Like camera in computers that are now remotely activated to look at kids in schools (Mini Flash school sent a letter to all parents to make sure the camera was either deactivated or covered to avoid their kids being filmed).

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Like guy holding the pill said, "I'm not going to do it."

The only one who said it had white hair, he can die through starvation (no chip no money lol) anyhow, he is too old to be worth slavery. I am kidding, but only in parts.

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I am half way there... look at this post time stamp...:gaah:


lol, too bad here is not 33 hours in a day, you would have won the jack pot.

Agape
6th December 2013, 04:07
I am sure Agape those go both sides already, they just don't tell us yet. Like camera in computers that are now remotely activated to look at kids in schools (Mini Flash school sent a letter to all parents to make sure the camera was either deactivated or covered to avoid their kids being filmed).


Filmed by whom ? The DARPA (?) . I'm sure your Mini Flash has a better answer as of now ..


And it all still does not explain why so many people on this forum ( like Ulli or Paula ) turned Green . Can they transmit both sides as well .


;)

Flash
6th December 2013, 04:20
[QUOTE=Flash;768237]

I am sure Agape those go both sides already, they just don't tell us yet. Like camera in computers that are now remotely activated to look at kids in schools (Mini Flash school sent a letter to all parents to make sure the camera was either deactivated or covered to avoid their kids being filmed).


No Agape, the creepy pédophiles targetting children and their computers. I was just making a missed target comparison. lol Yes,Mini Flash would say "oh mom, get off your computer and talk with me".

Green, good question. I do like the now multicolor array of names thanking at the bottom of posts. It feels latino like. One more color would be great.

RunningDeer
6th December 2013, 04:43
I am sure Agape those go both sides already, they just don't tell us yet. Like camera in computers that are now remotely activated to look at kids in schools (Mini Flash school sent a letter to all parents to make sure the camera was either deactivated or covered to avoid their kids being filmed).


Filmed by whom ? The DARPA (?) . I'm sure your Mini Flash has a better answer as of now ..


And it all still does not explain why so many people on this forum ( like Ulli or Paula ) turned Green . Can they transmit both sides as well .


;)

You can be a greenie too, Agape. Here's Bill's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66133-Welcome-to-our-new-Greeters&p=767407&viewfull=1#post767407) & here's Marianne's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66133-Welcome-to-our-new-Greeters&p=767483&viewfull=1#post767483).

Paula http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/hugs/smileys-hugs-765537.gif

Agape
6th December 2013, 05:26
No Agape, the creepy pédophiles targetting children and their computers. I was just making a missed target comparison. lol Yes,Mini Flash would say "oh mom, get off your computer and talk with me".

Green, good question. I do like the now multicolor array of names thanking at the bottom of posts. It feels latino like. One more color would be great.

It seems to be turning to very crazy and dangerous world these days . But it makes sense yeah, such as in ''the pedophiles are watching '' .

Who else could be watching ?


The colors are very lovely . I agree there should be more of them , more choice the better . I thought I want to be a plum-ber for a while ( instead of mem-ber ) but I'm afraid I'd be busy all day .


Thanks again



:angel:

Agape
6th December 2013, 05:31
You can be a greenie too, Agape. Here's Bill's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66133-Welcome-to-our-new-Greeters&p=767407&viewfull=1#post767407) & here's Marianne's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66133-Welcome-to-our-new-Greeters&p=767483&viewfull=1#post767483).

Paula http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/hugs/smileys-hugs-765537.gif

Thank you Paula , I did not notice .



:hug:

OMG
6th December 2013, 05:38
They're laughing and talking as if it's a serious consideration...

Has everyone gone mad?

What type of people would participate in such things? None. Only the most naive and soulless minions would.

Bright Garlick
6th December 2013, 06:30
Connected to NASA - The Future of ?

Flash
6th December 2013, 06:33
Connected to NASA - The Future of ?

Me not understand.

Frederick Jackson
6th December 2013, 07:00
Yikes, the number of the beast, we will all be marked if we want to buy and sell. This is just creepy awful. Especially considering how everything else is going.

Ammit
6th December 2013, 07:56
They're laughing and talking as if it's a serious consideration...

Has everyone gone mad?

What type of people would participate in such things? None. Only the most naive and soulless minions would.

Yes OMG, I think they have.

Now we know about this, maybe it's time we began working on ways to counteract this type of device without killing the individual in the process. I have great fears for this device being used by folks but also think that the technology could also be used to self protect!! I mean, would it activate something within itself and send a small current to the heart or do something else to the person to cause harm or eventual death?

onawah
6th December 2013, 08:26
There have been studies done on pets who have been chipped, and they showed evidence of negative physical side effects.
It can't be healthy to have such a thing in your body, even if they make it safer (but why would they?)
We need more studies showing the dangers, and some good, strong whistleblowers ready to get that info out before it can be covered up.
If they really do implement this, they will have to start with it being optional, and hopefully there will be time to stop it before they will push to make it mandatory.
The Fundamentalists will be useful by protesting loudly, saying it's the Mark of the Beast from the Bible, and that will have an effect.

meeradas
6th December 2013, 08:34
There's really nothing funny about it.
Am totally fed up with 'innovations' like that.

Thus, once again:

araucaria
6th December 2013, 09:48
I googled the word ‘cross’ this morning. I couldn’t enter a qualifier because that is what I was looking for (a cross pattée or patty). I bit my lip, expecting several gazillion hits, but was amazed to see not a single hit. I drew a complete blank :) Here's a screenshot:

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Google completely bamboozled by the word ‘cross’ as if I were an exorcist holding an actual cross up to it. Try it sometime if you are feeling very cross with google. (Microsoft doesn’t like google either, my spellchecker changes it to goggle. :))

Violet
6th December 2013, 10:36
Failure notice.

Domestication.

Conchis
6th December 2013, 10:50
So, you'll go to Wells Fargo, or BankAmerica or GoogleBank and instead of getting a pile of paper checks you'll get a little tattoo that gives you access to your brand spanking new bank account which your employer will scan and direct deposit into your bank account which when you stand in front of the check-out scanner at the local GoogleMart will subtract the appropriate amount of google credits from your .... you load 16 tons and what do you get....

Akasha
6th December 2013, 12:22
I think she looks like an ET, the non sympathetic ones, she gives me the chill.

I thought exactly the same thing the first time I saw that vid'.

RunningDeer
6th December 2013, 16:57
I googled the word ‘cross’ this morning. I couldn’t enter a qualifier because that is what I was looking for (a cross pattée or patty). I bit my lip, expecting several gazillion hits, but was amazed to see not a single hit. I drew a complete blank :) Here's a screenshot:

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Google completely bamboozled by the word ‘cross’ as if I were an exorcist holding an actual cross up to it. Try it sometime if you are feeling very cross with google. (Microsoft doesn’t like google either, my spellchecker changes it to goggle. :))

FYI, here's what came up, Araucaria, J-o-h-n: 333,000,000 results in (0.19 sec) - Google & 153,999,474 results (0.17seconds) - Start Page


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/ScreenShot2013-12-06at114750AM_zpsdde584d7.png

http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/ScreenShot2013-12-06at114843AM_zpse6960d46.png

Bob
6th December 2013, 17:40
There have been studies done on pets who have been chipped, and they showed evidence of negative physical side effects.
It can't be healthy to have such a thing in your body, even if they make it safer (but why would they?)
We need more studies showing the dangers, and some good, strong whistleblowers ready to get that info out before it can be covered up.
If they really do implement this, they will have to start with it being optional, and hopefully there will be time to stop it before they will push to make it mandatory.
The Fundamentalists will be useful by protesting loudly, saying it's the Mark of the Beast from the Bible, and that will have an effect.

What do you want to know specifically about the RFID and other bio-implants (RFID - radio frequency Identification Device) ?

RunningDeer
6th December 2013, 18:01
RFID Implants Found to Cause Cancer Tumors

(NaturalNews (http://www.naturalnews.com/022467_RFID_chips_microchipping.html#ixzz1yTsMymOY)) Small electronic chips approved by the FDA for implanting beneath human skin have been linked to cancer in laboratory animals, according to a research review conducted by the Associated Press.

The radio frequency identification (RFID) chips are made by VeriChip Corp. They are designed to carry a serial number, which can be read when scanned by anyone with an RFID sensor. Medical workers can then use that number to access a patient's medical history from a web site maintained by the corporation, provided they have paid the annual access fee.

The chips, which are approximately twice the size of a grain of rice, were approved by the FDA for human implantation in 2005. But the Associated Press has revealed that as early as 1996, researchers had uncovered a link between the devices and cancer. Rodents implanted with the chips were found to develop malignant tumors beneath the skin, usually surrounding the devices. The rates were high enough -- as high as 10 percent of animals implanted, in a 1998 study -- to raise warning bells with the researchers, who reported their concern in peer-reviewed journals.

None of the studies were looking for carcinogenic effects from the RFID tags, but in each case the researchers ruled out other possible causes. Although there was no non-implanted control group in many of the studies, the evidence is strong enough to convince many researchers that more research is needed before any more human implantation takes place.

"There's no way in the world, having read this information, that I would have one of those chips implanted in my skin, or in one of my family members," said Dr. Robert Benezra, head of the Cancer Biology Genetics Program at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.

"This research review clearly shows cause of concern over the mass microchipping of our population for medical purposes," explained consumer health advocate Mike Adams. "Intelligent, reasonable people will naturally reject such chip implants, which is exactly why the company is targeting individuals suffering from cognitive decline, such as Alzheimer's patients," Adams added.

So far, 2,000 people have been implanted with VeriChip's RFID chips. The company has identified is target market in the United States as 45 million people, starting with Alzheimer's and diabetes patients.

Mulder
6th December 2013, 19:10
This is not a conspiracy anymore, it has arrived.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ijwhSqrcD4

I think she looks like an ET, the non sympathetic ones, she gives me the chill.

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith | Padme Amidala

Milneman
6th December 2013, 19:23
Slavery 2.0, Flash.

Every keystroke is read potentially by someone unintended to read it. The potato battery...that's just class. So check your fries the next time you're at McDonalds, kids!

This is what they're telling us about....imagine what they have developed now if that was what they developed 10 years ago.

The real miracle in all this: even with all this bullocks we stil manage to find a way to live a good life, and spread that goodness to others. Try and chip that. :)

Flash
6th December 2013, 19:29
RFID Implants Found to Cause Cancer Tumors

(NaturalNews (http://www.naturalnews.com/022467_RFID_chips_microchipping.html#ixzz1yTsMymOY)) Small electronic chips approved by the FDA for implanting beneath human skin have been linked to cancer in laboratory animals, according to a research review conducted by the Associated Press.

The radio frequency identification (RFID) chips are made by VeriChip Corp. They are designed to carry a serial number, which can be read when scanned by anyone with an RFID sensor. Medical workers can then use that number to access a patient's medical history from a web site maintained by the corporation, provided they have paid the annual access fee.

The chips, which are approximately twice the size of a grain of rice, were approved by the FDA for human implantation in 2005. But the Associated Press has revealed that as early as 1996, researchers had uncovered a link between the devices and cancer. Rodents implanted with the chips were found to develop malignant tumors beneath the skin, usually surrounding the devices. The rates were high enough -- as high as 10 percent of animals implanted, in a 1998 study -- to raise warning bells with the researchers, who reported their concern in peer-reviewed journals.

None of the studies were looking for carcinogenic effects from the RFID tags, but in each case the researchers ruled out other possible causes. Although there was no non-implanted control group in many of the studies, the evidence is strong enough to convince many researchers that more research is needed before any more human implantation takes place.

"There's no way in the world, having read this information, that I would have one of those chips implanted in my skin, or in one of my family members," said Dr. Robert Benezra, head of the Cancer Biology Genetics Program at the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.

"This research review clearly shows cause of concern over the mass microchipping of our population for medical purposes," explained consumer health advocate Mike Adams. "Intelligent, reasonable people will naturally reject such chip implants, which is exactly why the company is targeting individuals suffering from cognitive decline, such as Alzheimer's patients," Adams added.

So far, 2,000 people have been implanted with VeriChip's RFID chips. The company has identified is target market in the United States as 45 million people, starting with Alzheimer's and diabetes patients.

the chips are the size of a tiny tiny dot, no more than the dot of your pen on a piece of paper. What is shown in the video here is for the gallery. This is for the introduction Under the shape of acceptable tatoo. In fact, technology allows it now to be the size of a dot.

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Slavery 2.0, Flash.

Every keystroke is read potentially by someone unintended to read it. The potato battery...that's just class. So check your fries the next time you're at McDonalds, kids!

This is what they're telling us about....imagine what they have developed now if that was what they developed 10 years ago.

The real miracle in all this: even with all this bullocks we stil manage to find a way to live a good life, and spread that goodness to others. Try and chip that. :)

You are right for the goodness. I hope it won't be chipped out of us.

RunningDeer
6th December 2013, 19:46
Slavery 2.0, Flash.

Every keystroke is read potentially by someone unintended to read it. The potato battery...that's just class. So check your fries the next time you're at McDonalds, kids!

This is what they're telling us about....imagine what they have developed now if that was what they developed 10 years ago.

The real miracle in all this: even with all this bullocks we stil manage to find a way to live a good life, and spread that goodness to others. Try and chip that. :)
Chips and McNuggies… FFT: (Food for Thought - pun included) Nano technology?

Chicken McNuggets contain strange fibers - Microscopic

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Published on Aug 17, 2013

Chicken McNuggets contain strange fibers - Microscopic
Look at McDonald's Chicken McNuggets under a high-powered digital microscope.

Flash
6th December 2013, 20:00
ok lets get real conspiracy nuts here;

I do think that there is nanotech being sprayed at us in chemtrails, plus viruses, radiation and dumb down chemical, and some aluminum and other stuff related to either weather or screens, or ..... be my guess and that much can be activated through electronic/electromagnetic impulses when the time is ripe, for epidemics, for everyone being sick, for complete hypnosis (we almost reached that though), name it.

I do think that the nano will get/has gotten into food, and more now since Google admit they can put it in a pill to be ingested and you become a 2 legged walking GPS. So yes, it has started years ago.

I do think they also have the techologies to do it directly on us, by taking and taping our brainwaves and our unique signature and targetting us if they want. They can target group of people the same way. But this would be less precise and more costly I bet.

So better to convince people to basically implant themselves.

I would add that I think that ET are way passed these technologies. Regressive and progressive ones. Therefore, we are talking mainly human control of other humans here, supervised by ETs most probably.

However, there is also a universal law that sentient beings should not be forced and put into slavery, they have to authorize it. By ingesting the RFID ourselves, we have consciously given the permission to be controlled. Intervention of the progressive ET is therefore curtailed. As long as we had been tricked, help could be supplied, but not if we consciously accept control and slavery. That is where we are heading if we are not very careful.

Agape
6th December 2013, 20:29
They are exactly installing very thick cover over all of our heads . The EMG smog over cities is big enough to keep all 'under cover ' .

I don't think of food poisoning and chemicals would be so intentional as they are out of control , so are many other human matters on this planet . It's the inner controls people are missing and the outer ones won't really ever help .

There are always two ways of controlling the society .. or any system , from outside and from within .
ETs can only help with the inner part . The 'Powers' of human society , of course they fear there would be too many free thinking people ..because when majority of people realise their true status and power , those 'Powers' won't longer be needed .

So they try damage and mind controls , through education .. in fact, more levels of education you complete the chances that you'll come out as good thinking puppet are great and you have to accept being a puppet to certain degree ,
else you can't be there and knowing the boss is the best self controlled puppet .

They know they won't be able to damage all of us yet they try their best . More the merrier . Little damaged people are easy to control .
Want a lots of potato crisps ? :popcorn: Why not .

They always preferred to keep people in the yokes , with lowered heads , looking to the ground ..

too much is too much.


:angel:

Robin
6th December 2013, 20:38
I do think that the nano will get/has gotten into food, and more now since Google admit they can put it in a pill to be ingested and you become a 2 legged walking GPS. So yes, it has started years ago.


I would think that this would be rather difficult for them to control, though. Imagine those people who eat McDonalds, for instance, on a regular basis. If chicken nuggets have small chips in them, for instance, imagine how many chips certain individuals can possibly have in their system!

I imagine that for the unhealthy eater, a large amount of these nanotechnology chips would interfere with their body functions...maybe even kill them.

I'm by no means ruling out the possibility...but how would they be able to manage it if they haphazardly put these chips in food? :confused:

Flash
6th December 2013, 20:52
I do think that the nano will get/has gotten into food, and more now since Google admit they can put it in a pill to be ingested and you become a 2 legged walking GPS. So yes, it has started years ago.


I would think that this would be rather difficult for them to control, though. Imagine those people who eat McDonalds, for instance, on a regular basis. If chicken nuggets have small chips in them, for instance, imagine how many chips certain individuals can possibly have in their system!

I imagine that for the unhealthy eater, a large amount of these nanotechnology chips would interfere with their body functions...maybe even kill them.

I'm by no means ruling out the possibility...but how would they be able to manage it if they haphazardly put these chips in food? :confused:

the answers are in you own statements. Unhealthy eaters would have a large amount in them and it would interfere with their body functions. Rather cheap way to get rid of them isn't it.

In fact, I do not think those in chicken nuggets would be targetting any precise person, but rather groups (rich people do not eat at McDonald, ever. I had very rich kids (late teenagers) in a class for a year, they never ever eat McDonald. They only drink Tim Horton coffee, it is the farthest they go, they won't eat your fast food donuts either. Not for health, they fill themselve with drugs, but they won't eat those chain fast food, I bet they are being told. I naively thought it was for health at the beginning, to realize it is not that).

I think these nano would be put in chemtrails and food to target people when the times come. You will have large segment of sick people all of a sudden, for no reason, or large segment of very obedient people all of a sudden, etc. It is to manage the masses, and it does not matter if those that cannot sustain the many chips leave the planet feet first (the old and sick mainly).

This is getting into heavy conspiracy stuff, you may agree or not, I do realise it looks quite stretched.

Milneman
6th December 2013, 20:57
I do think that the nano will get/has gotten into food, and more now since Google admit they can put it in a pill to be ingested and you become a 2 legged walking GPS. So yes, it has started years ago.


I would think that this would be rather difficult for them to control, though. Imagine those people who eat McDonalds, for instance, on a regular basis. If chicken nuggets have small chips in them, for instance, imagine how many chips certain individuals can possibly have in their system!

I imagine that for the unhealthy eater, a large amount of these nanotechnology chips would interfere with their body functions...maybe even kill them.

I'm by no means ruling out the possibility...but how would they be able to manage it if they haphazardly put these chips in food? :confused:

True. But, if instead of inserting radio-active material to kill someone into someone's tea, I put a nano-chip into their crumpet....oh I've had way too much coffee today. Flash, it's all your fault. lol

***edit***

FYI, I stopped eating fast food 8 days ago...and dropped almost 18 pounds, and 36 tracking chips. :D

Robin
6th December 2013, 21:00
I do think that the nano will get/has gotten into food, and more now since Google admit they can put it in a pill to be ingested and you become a 2 legged walking GPS. So yes, it has started years ago.


I would think that this would be rather difficult for them to control, though. Imagine those people who eat McDonalds, for instance, on a regular basis. If chicken nuggets have small chips in them, for instance, imagine how many chips certain individuals can possibly have in their system!

I imagine that for the unhealthy eater, a large amount of these nanotechnology chips would interfere with their body functions...maybe even kill them.

I'm by no means ruling out the possibility...but how would they be able to manage it if they haphazardly put these chips in food? :confused:

the answers are in you own statements. Unhealthy eaters would have a large amount in them and it would interfere with their body functions. Rather cheap way to get rid of them isn't it.

In fact, I do not think those in chicken nuggets would be targetting any precise person, but rather groups (rich people do not eat at McDonald, ever. I had very rich kids (late teenagers) in a class for a year, they never ever eat McDonald. They only drink Tim Horton coffee, it is the farthest they go, they won't eat your fast food donuts either. Not for health, they fill themselve with drugs, but they won't eat those chain fast food, I bet they are being told. I naively thought it was for health at the beginning, to realize it is not that).

I think these nano would be put in chemtrails and food to target people when the times come. You will have large segment of sick people all of a sudden, for no reason, or large segment of very obedient people all of a sudden, etc. It is to manage the masses, and it does not matter if those that cannot sustain the many chips leave the planet feet first (the old and sick mainly).

This is getting into heavy conspiracy stuff, you may agree or not, I do realise it looks quite stretched.

Exactly! I think the purpose of the chips is to activate them at some time in the future to make people sick...or kill them off.

But what I'm saying is if somebody acquires too many chips from eating the poisoned food...what if they die prematurely? The plans of the PTB wouldn't be effective if people are consuming too many chips and dying indirectly from them. I'm just curious what kind of effect these chips would have on somebody's immune/digestive/respitory/nervous/etc. systems.

Perhaps the more chips one acquires from eating unhealthy, poisoned foods, the more dumbed down they get. Maybe the chips' purpose is to turn people into sheeple rather than kill them off in the future? :noidea:

Bob
6th December 2013, 21:01
Thanks Flash :)

Nano-Machines configured to be an intelligent computer, has to be programmed to pass electrical signals. A nano-machine, smaller than a fibre, smaller than a hair in width, still has to be connected to something to both receive data and then transmit data.

The physical coupling from the nano-machine (let's call that the "chip") then needs some type of long wire that is conductive. A conductive tatoo looking like a spiral or grid, could act like an antenna.

The tatoo though, without any "chip" circuit hooked up to it, won't do anything except as to act like a resonator device, a type of message system saying HERE I AM to some sensor which probes it.

So if you go thru one of those things at WallyWorld or the supermarket, you can be registered that your resonator circuit was present. That could let you be considered a favored shopper. One has the "mark" on them, a conductive pattern that resonates to some set of frequencies, and you get recognized. There is no way to upload or download information from such a thing, if there is no "chip" connected to the resonant device (also called the coupling antenna).

Eating nano-chips - not good. Inhaling nano-chips, or any nano-particles, not good..

The purpose of the "chip" is to contain a computer that can register more things like just a simple resonance channel (like the channel on a radio set, FM radio 90.1 megahertz could be a channel for the FM radio set, and modulation on the FM radio set to anything tuned that that channel would be a bit "augmented" by the ability of the resonant antenna to pick it up better).

We are bathed by RF (radio frequencies) continually. Very low power signals, 1/1,000,000 ths of a volt of power or less. Some satellite signals can contain more power.. BUT our nervous systems cannot directly pick up those sub powered levels.

A chip tho, with a good antenna as described could pick such signals up, from satellite or local transmitter sources, such as cellphone towers.

Could those chips do anything to the body? Not directly.

But what if the nano-ink had an encapsulated substance, which the micro-nano-chip could release on command? What if the chemical was a nano-virus that attacked the nervous system, or immune system, or could release a chemical that could stop a heart or induce a stroke?

The circuit has to have a micro-programmed intelligence in it, plus the mechanism that does all of that has to be mechanically stable, and be able to operate from the power created by the signal that one has been exposed to (like walking past the scanner at the doors of the supermarket, or getting close to a cell tower that has enough power to drive the nano-computer)..

I am describing technologies which one can read up about in this technical primer: http://read.pudn.com/downloads163/ebook/745242/RFID.Design.Principles.pdf

Right now, a couple of Radio Frequency bands are used - there are 4 bands or "windows" primarily used, and the choice of frequency determines how small or how big the device is, the RFID device including it's pickup antenna..

http://chanlo.com/images/rfid-1.jpg

the lower the frequency as shown in the graph above, the bigger the antenna has to be. The bigger the antenna the shorter the range of the device to be able to be powered by the transmitting antenna (cell tower, or satellite, or hand held "wand" device).

The direct implant, such as used to chip animals, or as mentioned people who are high risk of being lost, or captured, or voluntarily have the "chip" implanted, would be generally in the lower band.. The device looks like this, and is totally encapsulated in an inert material, like glass - impervious to being recognized by the body directly chemically. It is not self powered, does not have a battery, and relies ONLY on the power that the external wand has to power up the "chip" inside so that data can be written to or read from..


http://chanlo.com/images/rfid-2.jpg

What I find potentially very distressing because of the small size and the prevalence of RF excitation sources (cell towers, Wireless Routers/LANs) is this particular "microwave chip set' RFID device:


http://chanlo.com/images/rfid-3.jpg

as these devices can expose the actual circuit at select points to the body, and could potentially be installed as a "brain chip" (it's small enough). AND those carrier sources, cellphones, cell towers, wireless routers/LANs and satellites could indeed communicate with such a tag/chip combo..

The question would be, is how would the "programmers" know what precision brain signals to impart to the device to create the desired effect.

As posted elsewhere on the forum, we have talked about what the designs are that DARPA for instance has applied and wants to further explore (like getting school kids to submit their brainwaves to DARPA in like a contest, making low cost brain reading headsets available to schools)... When those patterns are recognized, what is universal for any desired emotion then direct coupling could be achieved, thru such implanted RFID devices..

Thing is an RF-ID device is primarily used as a tracking device. ID stands for IDENTIFICATION - the device identifies itself through a unique ID number encoded into the chip.. So any chip reader powering up the CHIP remotely from the RF (Radio Frequency power of sufficient power levels, and it HAS to be a great power level, meaning the chip has to be close to the sender/reader) can then program in the chip, an ID number, or bank account number for instance and PIN, balance, etc.. and read out the information stored in the chip.

Where it gets insidious, is when the CHIP can be setup to release SIGNALS to the nervous system, or send nervous system signals to a reader.. (two way dialog with the microprocessor on the chip)

Is that possible, of course it is. DOES DARPA have all the data to do that yet, i do NOT believe they do, which is why they have all these award programs being released to get kids and industry to voluntarily submit brain wave data to them.. Are folks going to do that? Who knows..

Read that PDF, it is fascinating, has a lot of simple english in it as well as some technical data for those wanting to understand more. If you want more data on this ask me and I will try to get that data to you.

(ED note: this is what has to be connected to a conductive Tatoo to get it to work. Without the chip, a conductive tatoo is simply a passive resonator, saying one is "marked", but not yet "chipped")


http://chanlo.com/images/rfid-4.jpg

Rollo
6th December 2013, 21:04
It doesn't took long to get rid off the other device:)

24054

People will come up with the solutions to take out RFID, I'm sure about it.
Some will enjoy wearing them too;).

Violet
6th December 2013, 21:31
I think she looks like an ET, the non sympathetic ones, she gives me the chill.

I thought exactly the same thing the first time I saw that vid'.

Me too but I already suspected some other person of being an alien yesterday and I thought that if I'd do the same thing today I might not be taken seriously.

RunningDeer
6th December 2013, 22:13
ok lets get real conspiracy nuts here;

I do think that there is nanotech being sprayed at us in chemtrails, plus viruses, radiation and dumb down chemical, and some aluminum and other stuff related to either weather or screens, or ..... be my guess and that much can be activated through electronic/electromagnetic impulses when the time is ripe, for epidemics, for everyone being sick, for complete hypnosis (we almost reached that though), name it.

I do think that the nano will get/has gotten into food, and more now since Google admit they can put it in a pill to be ingested and you become a 2 legged walking GPS. So yes, it has started years ago.

I do think they also have the techologies to do it directly on us, by taking and taping our brainwaves and our unique signature and targetting us if they want. They can target group of people the same way. But this would be less precise and more costly I bet.

So better to convince people to basically implant themselves.

I would add that I think that ET are way passed these technologies. Regressive and progressive ones. Therefore, we are talking mainly human control of other humans here, supervised by ETs most probably.

However, there is also a universal law that sentient beings should not be forced and put into slavery, they have to authorize it. By ingesting the RFID ourselves, we have consciously given the permission to be controlled. Intervention of the progressive ET is therefore curtailed. As long as we had been tricked, help could be supplied, but not if we consciously accept control and slavery. That is where we are heading if we are not very careful.

Yes, yes, yes to all your questions, Flash.

But, I also live my life with the belief that there are solutions to every situation. Counters to ward-off what is not part of what I signed on for. Like everyone else, I’m discovering the parts that work and what beliefs need an upgrade.

Simple counters like detox to keep the immune system strong. Which in turn keeps thought processes in balance to hone in on custom-made solutions for this body-suit that lives within the bigger Pauler.

At the end of the day, I run a self-check. In what ways through behaviors, thoughts, actions, spread goodies around that keep us keeping, and/or knowledge, did I accomplish towards the best Pauler possible?

Yes, I stumble, but that state now quickens. Why? The small adds up to many. With each decision/action there’s a greater possibility for more DNA to come on-line. Which in turn prepares me for the dialed-up garbage from the energy-suckers.

Most important is, “How much power did I give over to these increasingly transparent puffer fish from unexamined beliefs and fears?” Like I said...that state now quickens.



Puffer Fish

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Flash
6th December 2013, 22:25
Thanks Flash :)

Nano-Machines configured to be an intelligent computer, has to be programmed to pass electrical signals. A nano-machine, smaller than a fibre, smaller than a hair in width, still has to be connected to something to both receive data and then transmit data.

The physical coupling from the nano-machine (let's call that the "chip") then needs some type of long wire that is conductive. A conductive tatoo looking like a spiral or grid, could act like an antenna.

The tatoo though, without any "chip" circuit hooked up to it, won't do anything except as to act like a resonator device, a type of message system saying HERE I AM to some sensor which probes it.

So if you go thru one of those things at WallyWorld or the supermarket, you can be registered that your resonator circuit was present. That could let you be considered a favored shopper. One has the "mark" on them, a conductive pattern that resonates to some set of frequencies, and you get recognized. There is no way to upload or download information from such a thing, if there is no "chip" connected to the resonant device (also called the coupling antenna).

Eating nano-chips - not good. Inhaling nano-chips, or any nano-particles, not good..

The purpose of the "chip" is to contain a computer that can register more things like just a simple resonance channel (like the channel on a radio set, FM radio 90.1 megahertz could be a channel for the FM radio set, and modulation on the FM radio set to anything tuned that that channel would be a bit "augmented" by the ability of the resonant antenna to pick it up better).

We are bathed by RF (radio frequencies) continually. Very low power signals, 1/1,000,000 ths of a volt of power or less. Some satellite signals can contain more power.. BUT our nervous systems cannot directly pick up those sub powered levels.

A chip tho, with a good antenna as described could pick such signals up, from satellite or local transmitter sources, such as cellphone towers.

Could those chips do anything to the body? Not directly.

But what if the nano-ink had an encapsulated substance, which the micro-nano-chip could release on command? What if the chemical was a nano-virus that attacked the nervous system, or immune system, or could release a chemical that could stop a heart or induce a stroke?

The circuit has to have a micro-programmed intelligence in it, plus the mechanism that does all of that has to be mechanically stable, and be able to operate from the power created by the signal that one has been exposed to (like walking past the scanner at the doors of the supermarket, or getting close to a cell tower that has enough power to drive the nano-computer)..

I am describing technologies which one can read up about in this technical primer: http://read.pudn.com/downloads163/ebook/745242/RFID.Design.Principles.pdf

Right now, a couple of Radio Frequency bands are used - there are 4 bands or "windows" primarily used, and the choice of frequency determines how small or how big the device is, the RFID device including it's pickup antenna..

the lower the frequency as shown in the graph above, the bigger the antenna has to be. The bigger the antenna the shorter the range of the device to be able to be powered by the transmitting antenna (cell tower, or satellite, or hand held "wand" device).

The direct implant, such as used to chip animals, or as mentioned people who are high risk of being lost, or captured, or voluntarily have the "chip" implanted, would be generally in the lower band.. The device looks like this, and is totally encapsulated in an inert material, like glass - impervious to being recognized by the body directly chemically. It is not self powered, does not have a battery, and relies ONLY on the power that the external wand has to power up the "chip" inside so that data can be written to or read from..

What I find potentially very distressing because of the small size and the prevalence of RF excitation sources (cell towers, Wireless Routers/LANs) is this particular "microwave chip set' RFID device:

as these devices can expose the actual circuit at select points to the body, and could potentially be installed as a "brain chip" (it's small enough). AND those carrier sources, cellphones, cell towers, wireless routers/LANs and satellites could indeed communicate with such a tag/chip combo..

The question would be, is how would the "programmers" know what precision brain signals to impart to the device to create the desired effect.

As posted elsewhere on the forum, we have talked about what the designs are that DARPA for instance has applied and wants to further explore (like getting school kids to submit their brainwaves to DARPA in like a contest, making low cost brain reading headsets available to schools)... When those patterns are recognized, what is universal for any desired emotion then direct coupling could be achieved, thru such implanted RFID devices..

Thing is an RF-ID device is primarily used as a tracking device. ID stands for IDENTIFICATION - the device identifies itself through a unique ID number encoded into the chip.. So any chip reader powering up the CHIP remotely from the RF (Radio Frequency power of sufficient power levels, and it HAS to be a great power level, meaning the chip has to be close to the sender/reader) can then program in the chip, an ID number, or bank account number for instance and PIN, balance, etc.. and read out the information stored in the chip.

Where it gets insidious, is when the CHIP can be setup to release SIGNALS to the nervous system, or send nervous system signals to a reader.. (two way dialog with the microprocessor on the chip)

Is that possible, of course it is. DOES DARPA have all the data to do that yet, i do NOT believe they do, which is why they have all these award programs being released to get kids and industry to voluntarily submit brain wave data to them.. Are folks going to do that? Who knows..

Read that PDF, it is fascinating, has a lot of simple english in it as well as some technical data for those wanting to understand more. If you want more data on this ask me and I will try to get that data to you.

(ED note: this is what has to be connected to a conductive Tatoo to get it to work. Without the chip, a conductive tatoo is simply a passive resonator, saying one is "marked", but not yet "chipped")


Thank you very much for your extraordinary post. Very instructive and comprehensible. It kills the myths I had and explains very well the possibilities.

What is nice, is to be able to complement each other in our knowledge. Therefore, my answers in red.

If I understand, there is the resonant antenna, no much problem with that, it only allows one to be recognized by a machine, it is an authentification chip.

Then there is the real chip, but this one is actually usually working from low frequencies and needs a bothersome antenna to be able to communicate.

Then there is the real ultra chip, which has the antenna in it and is small enough to be input into someone's brain. Those could be then in contact with all the cell towers etc we already have.

----- a side note: while I am writing this, there is my daughter not home yet and who does not tell me what she does or call, I will chip her!!! ok she just phoned, I will delay the chipping :p-------------

But, for this, brain patterns have to be mapped for different emotions, thoughts waves, etc. Here actual open science, just imagine the hidden one where they are at:


An example of four words — Waldo, structure, doubt and property — being run through the two algorithms tested. They’re not perfect, but for reading brain waves, that’s impressive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpFc__Xp8PM

clips reconstructed by computer analysing the brain visual brain waves


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsjDnYxJ0bo

If we are there, DARPA already has the whole mapping of the brain and its emotions/thinking, I bet.

Then we have the chip that contains identification for accessing my bank account, as in my credit card (yes, in Canada, they are chipped) or a medical card with a chip who would allow the doctor to read my medical file.

Then, DARPA is trying to collect brainwave data from children to be able to have both ways communication with their chip.

I personnally think they have already, at least for adults, this is where we differ Bob.

Bob
6th December 2013, 23:22
Hi Flash, the red highlighting didn't come thru for some reason.. Ya communicating bridge wise, technical in non geek-speak I feel is fair and honest to the folks. Sometimes, minimal techy stuff has to be said at times, cause those words themselves are unique, like the Xerox machine (the trade name of a manufacturer, means the photocopier)..

There are quite a few schools, universities across the world doing brain chip interfaces, for assorted reasons. When the chip is in there, one obviously has no hope of getting it out as no doubt, the chip will be essential for some key brain functioning - like destroy part of the brain that allows bridging the concept of JUSTICE and FAIRNESS with the part of the mind brain that carries out motion. Think/conceptualize "move the hand" and the hand moves.. Think move the hand "to the trigger on the pistol and pull", that logic morals "circuit" prevents a normal person from pulling the trigger..

BUT what if the implanter of the chip (which is controlled on the RFID frequency bands) deliberately CUTS the nerves that go to the morals section... If the chip bridges the gap when it is connected properly, in "normal mode", everything seems normal, but on command, opening the "ethics/morals circuit" could happen - both if the CHIP is defeated or damaged, or activated to open that circuit. Chemically with manchurian candidate programming that has been done.. So they know where to do that in the brain..

I fully get your point about the microwave beaming. I explored a section of that in my Darpa thread in the General Forum.. That is very coarse type of programming, a direct chip tho is the difference of like driving a bulldozer through a garden verses walking in there delicately and pruning the weeds, and aerating the flowers. They are at the level of bulldozing.

The problem DARPA has is people are different, so the data circuits and locations are different. To precisely install an implanted chip and get it to do exactly the right things simply hasn't happened. Crude stuff since DelGado could stop a raging bull (http://www.raven1.net/mk-gall.htm) has happened, but getting the precise electrodes into the brain, had to be done, not something eating some french fries to ingest nanomachines could do at this point.. Sidney Gottlieb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Gottlieb) turned to the chemical processes directly to evoke the control (a machine plus an RF chip controlled chemical dosing device would be the most insidious dastardly technology on the planet).

Darpa is trying to get chips built right now, soliciting university and industry alike to come up with a chip that restores lost memories (alzheimers etc), but knowing where memories are, means memories could be sliced out or added at will. Or the ability to even remember that one did anything (like pulling the trigger) could be suppressed, or one could be programmed to not see that one is being ruled, or taken, or acting even as a slave..

To do that, DARPA needs the data from the school children submitting their brainwaves WHILE the brain is developing. They want to see how the brain changes over time, to see what is the common denominator.. When they get that, they will see what type of information will do what..

Bulldozing is one thing, they can do that very well, but the subtle programming with what will exactly work across the board.. they don't have that "exact programming pattern" yet, but they want it more than anything else.. The darpa's of the world tho are out there.. This phenomenon isn't just the US. Look at the big powers that be and the techy countries, small but powerful with some amazing minds pushing the limits of what may be possible. When the US did operation Paperclip, they went hunting for folks who would push the envelop and were in their own countries.. That is still going on, here and in other countries..

I do think you summarized it well in the comment on my post. I can elaborate at any point if needed..

ref's - http://www.cccblog.org/2013/12/02/darpa-announces-two-programs-as-part-of-white-house-brain-initiative/ - brain memory "restoring" chip

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101062968 - the 30 $ EEG brain reading headset
"Part of DARPA's $30 brain recording device challenge is to make the science affordable for classrooms and students. "There is a great need for inexpensive and easy to use neural recording devices," according to the DARPA solicitation. "Having EEGs in every classroom in America would engage students in science and technology in a way not previously possible in the field of neuroscience."

mosquito
7th December 2013, 03:38
All so predictable. Optional now, but introduced into our youth via advertising and the usual fear memes (child protection, identity theft etc.) and in 20 years time it will be the norm, and then no problem to make it mandatory. What people tend to forget is that devlopment of devices such as these always goes hand-in-hand with the devlopment of applications for which they can be used. So while there may not presently be any (or many) sinister applications, you can guarantee that there wil be in the future.

Excellent technical info Bob. My current view is that we are heading toward a holographic understanding of mind, so a chip implant which has neuro-specific circuits and programming may not be necessary to achieve what they want. It could be as simple as developing something which emits a tiny pulse at a certain frequency and disrupts our higher "spiritual" faculties along with our "free will", similar to what fluoride does.

Pink Rabbit
7th December 2013, 04:34
MRI scans turn off alot of implants. I wonder how these will fare in that environment?

Also, I think alot of kids that tattoo as rebellion won't really buy into linking with Google and the government given their ideal set of circumstances. But I'm sure tptb will come up with a financial carrot or stick inducement if they want. Like any government related health insurance won't be valid unless you get one for an example.

Bob
7th December 2013, 18:52
MRI scans turn off alot of implants. I wonder how these will fare in that environment?

Also, I think alot of kids that tattoo as rebellion won't really buy into linking with Google and the government given their ideal set of circumstances. But I'm sure tptb will come up with a financial carrot or stick inducement if they want. Like any government related health insurance won't be valid unless you get one for an example.

Hi Pink Rabbit - what a neat nick !

I've followed your posts elsewhere and appreciate that you are here on the Forum - very well done coming out and explaining to folks your background :)

As you can tell I have a great background in the bleeding edge tech across the neural sciences, and have kept up on the biochemical and electro and psychosurgical alteration of consciousness and personality.. My feeling is chemistry these days still is extremely crude, a bulldozer tech. And exactly where to put in the right electrodes or where to exactly burn out synaptic bundles is pretty much dark ages drilling holes in heads to let the dark spirits out mindset.

Mariposafe pointed out the method is indoctrination to get people to believe it is OK to do something, using some sort of horrendous excuse as the reason why.. Psychology right?

The magnetic fields from MRI, or even the security chip deactivator in supermarkets, department store checkout registers deals with only one type of RFID tag..

Quick little story that I feel is relevant..

Back in 1979 I was told by a local spook with whom we had established a working mutual rapport, an undercover operative assigned to investigate government corruption in a security location I was working at the time, to try to use a very strong magnet on any "implant suspected" device to deactivate it or re-activate it. The location where we were working had extremely strong rotating magnetic fields present and one could accidentally wander or by deliberate action find oneself in the middle of those thousands of Gauss rotating fields.. There were also thousands of volts of power present, intense gravity stress fields as well. (interesting place to work eh?)

I found it a bit strange that we had that conversation about implant devices and technologies, but we were discussing the changes in perceived aberrant behavior of the people he was assigned to watch - his job was to infiltrate and find out why something very radical had changed in the group. I had pointed out to him, his cover really was lame as he had been asking questions a person of his "public" background just shouldn't have access to, or even know to ask.. We both chuckled at it and he said OK since cover is blown, maybe I could share with him what I observed.. such is what he said.

My point in bringing this up - certain older devices, as used by the US-ARMY and other services were based on a very archaic type of technology that used magnetics as a tool to turn on and turn off the device (pulsed magnetics established the remote programming). Those devices were active, not passive, they were implanted in or behind the ear subcutaneously. At that time very brute force technology was being used as well as the development and application of heavy psychiatric drugs, combinations of sedatives, hypnotics and stimulants all in the same package... "the juice" to get one "talking" and never remember it had happened.. (same stuff midazolam, is used in surgeries these days without the stimulant/antagonist).. Such substances were to the implanted device, to release microdoses into the capillaries near or in the ear on command of an external stimuli - in short induced amnesia or "open up and debrief" was their primary use. Amazing how stuff from the 50's was adapted in the 60's for installation in key targets.. I never really got into a discussion with him, and he had no way of telling me, how many of those things were "installed" in how many key people in how many key locations.. Just not something to be discussed back then..

The newer devices though I don't believe will be deactivated by the intense magnetics, as they don't contain the same switching circuitry..

Again, great to see you on the Forum..

Agape
7th December 2013, 19:18
The purpose of the "chip" is to contain a computer that can register more things like just a simple resonance channel (like the channel on a radio set, FM radio 90.1 megahertz could be a channel for the FM radio set, and modulation on the FM radio set to anything tuned that that channel would be a bit "augmented" by the ability of the resonant antenna to pick it up better).

We are bathed by RF (radio frequencies) continually. Very low power signals, 1/1,000,000 ths of a volt of power or less. Some satellite signals can contain more power.. BUT our nervous systems cannot directly pick up those sub powered levels.




Hello Bob ,

what are the odds that our neural systems learn to decipher these so far subliminal frequencies and listen to the FM radio broadcast without need for receiver .

Why in fact aren't we able to do so usually ( or are we ) . I've heard /read , can't recall the source now of people who had such an anomalous experience .. something like ''walking to fields, falling to coma .. hearing radio broadcast as clear as a day .. waking up ' and later it was confirmed that was they heard matched with the radio station program .

A little experience I can add was when sitting at river cafe in the middle of mountains , together with group of people ..years back .. the cell phones merely started to be widespread and popular in those days
but all sorts of signals are found to be fluctuating in high mountains , due to strong changes in atmospheric and other pressures I suppose .

So in short, there were very few cell phones in the area compared to now those days.

We saw a friend approaching us from far on path and in between , my ear started 'ringing' very loudly . On and off and until he reached us, though there was no apparent reason ( no 'emotional charge' in the air at all ).
I was only surprised minutes later when he came to greet us and pulled out little samsung cell phone from his pocket .
In the signal 'free zone' even one gadget seemed to be palpable .


I don't think I have anything like tinnitus but during my life and ever since I started to practise concentration .. I am more aware of the subtle hum in my ears ,

changing tunes and frequencies , under circumstances of course .

Whereas some people would say it's 'my brain' making noise , I think that we are still able to pick up quanta of information on subliminal level perhaps.


:biggrin1::clock:

Bob
7th December 2013, 19:42
Hi Agape - Radio Frequency information is bathing people from many sources.. The primary on-the-planet source is life itself.. The organic reaction of energy being produced through ATP (Adenosine Tri-Phosphate), the energy catalyst, and sugars evokes both heat, light and radio waves. That vibe is the connection RF field between all life.. (I have documented this in the later 80's and verified the spectrum that the signals encompass)..

Being fed so many other signals at the same time, the ability for a human to discriminate the carrier Radio Frequency (like that 90.1 megahertz channel on FM radio), and then pick out the information on the carrier (called the modulation), is not something easily done. BUT folks have done it. Lucille Ball of all people talked about it (http://www.healthyhearing.com/content/faqs/Research/Hearing/30997-Walking-antenna-metallic-fillings), where the older mercury fillings she had in her teeth were able to demodulate and put the AM (amplitude varying signals containing voice/music) directly into her ear nerves, jaw nerves..when she was near the radio station. Optically one can stimulate nerves near the "eye tooth" or "Cuspid" and "see" flashes of light on the stimulation. And it doesn't take much energy as the human nervous system is very very very sensitive to correct information..

http://img.tfd.com/wn/D3/646DB-cuspid.png

One can ask folks about the ultra-sonic sounding whistle that is heard, when possibly someone dear to them thinks about them strongly. Some say it's simply tinnitus, but I have found otherwise during testing I had done during the early 90's with dolphin two way neural sensory "information exchange" research.

Being in a totally isolated area devoid of radio wave stimulation, that background "life noise" is still there from the ATP-Sugar reaction. One's own body produces that intensely.. that is part of the personal "power" energy one can learn to focus during meditation btw.. its also part of what is called Qi "chi". Neural incoherence is generally the cause of chaos worldwide and internally. Which is one of the reasons meditation is suggested by the masters to get back in synch - part of it is listening to the internal dialog, which is not just "words" (which can be turned off with a tad of practice).

These RF assault and monitoring devices certainly are a concern when we are placed into some-one else's belief if what they feel we all need to be doing, not what we want to be doing (or believing).. You've seen the thread i've been discussing with Chanlo23 and the others there on the "soul" capture and use of that "energy" (Prisoners of Titan (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?65355-Prisoners-of-Titan&p=767011&viewfull=1#post767011)). The RFID chippers I don't believe have a clue how to work with as Mariposafe has observed with the Holographic information content that is powered by the ATP-Sugar RF field.. that RF field does interact and convey personality back and forth with all life in one's surroundings, both near and far.

I and our group have performed studies that over 5000 miles away easily this information can be shared, coherentized and evoke support and transformation. We have seen it similarly here on the Forum when coherent focused meditators have during "prayer" desired to help a group, a place, or an individual. Miracles happen. The common denominator is to understand the nature of the "energy" to recognize and have the faith that one has accomplished, and be willing to be part of a coherent group desiring the best possible outcome. And then let it go.

Flash
7th December 2013, 19:49
i am awe strucked Bob. Please go on. Scientfically explaining the bacground noises of the universe, internal and external and the back and forth réflexions all over.

And please, whenever it will seem necessary, allow me to reuse this last post of yours.

about anyone can easily understand that.

soleil
7th December 2013, 19:52
The purpose of the "chip" is to contain a computer that can register more things like just a simple resonance channel (like the channel on a radio set, FM radio 90.1 megahertz could be a channel for the FM radio set, and modulation on the FM radio set to anything tuned that that channel would be a bit "augmented" by the ability of the resonant antenna to pick it up better).

We are bathed by RF (radio frequencies) continually. Very low power signals, 1/1,000,000 ths of a volt of power or less. Some satellite signals can contain more power.. BUT our nervous systems cannot directly pick up those sub powered levels.




Hello Bob ,

what are the odds that our neural systems learn to decipher these so far subliminal frequencies and listen to the FM radio broadcast without need for receiver .

Why in fact aren't we able to do so usually ( or are we ) . I've heard /read , can't recall the source now of people who had such an anomalous experience .. something like ''walking to fields, falling to coma .. hearing radio broadcast as clear as a day .. waking up ' and later it was confirmed that was they heard matched with the radio station program .

A little experience I can add was when sitting at river cafe in the middle of mountains , together with group of people ..years back .. the cell phones merely started to be widespread and popular in those days
but all sorts of signals are found to be fluctuating in high mountains , due to strong changes in atmospheric and other pressures I suppose .

So in short, there were very few cell phones in the area compared to now those days.

We saw a friend approaching us from far on path and in between , my ear started 'ringing' very loudly . On and off and until he reached us, though there was no apparent reason ( no 'emotional charge' in the air at all ).
I was only surprised minutes later when he came to greet us and pulled out little samsung cell phone from his pocket .
In the signal 'free zone' even one gadget seemed to be palpable .


I don't think I have anything like tinnitus but during my life and ever since I started to practise concentration .. I am more aware of the subtle hum in my ears ,

changing tunes and frequencies , under circumstances of course .

Whereas some people would say it's 'my brain' making noise , I think that we are still able to pick up quanta of information on subliminal level perhaps.


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not to sound off topic, but to give a possible answer your question. meditation allows you to learn your frequency/higher self - which allows you to be aware enough to pay attention(observe) the thought/whether or not it is subliminally foreign, or whether it is truly your own, and of your (higher) self.

Bob
7th December 2013, 20:08
i am awe strucked Bob. Please go on. Scientfically explaining the bacground noises of the universe, internal and external and the back and forth réflexions all over.

And please, whenever it will seem necessary, allow me to reuse this last post of yours.

about anyone can easily understand that.

Hi Flash :) thanks

The link:

Lucille Ball of all people talked about it (http://www.healthyhearing.com/content/faqs/Research/Hearing/30997-Walking-antenna-metallic-fillings)

has a very fascinating story about how the body can demodulate these signals.

Having an RF-ID tag inside one, obviously can exacerbate such perceived sounds..

Mariposafe mentioned holographic and Sway mentioned about how the meditation procedure allows one to learn to differentiate and come to terms with what is happening.

Great dialog here, tnx :)

Agape
7th December 2013, 21:18
Hi Agape - Radio Frequency information is bathing people from many sources.. The primary on-the-planet source is life itself.. The organic reaction of energy being produced through ATP (Adenosine Tri-Phosphate), the energy catalyst, and sugars evokes both heat, light and radio waves. That vibe is the connection RF field between all life.. (I have documented this in the later 80's and verified the spectrum that the signals encompass)..

Being fed so many other signals at the same time, the ability for a human to discriminate the carrier Radio Frequency (like that 90.1 megahertz channel on FM radio), and then pick out the information on the carrier (called the modulation), is not something easily done. BUT folks have done it. Lucille Ball of all people talked about it (http://www.healthyhearing.com/content/faqs/Research/Hearing/30997-Walking-antenna-metallic-fillings), where the older mercury fillings she had in her teeth were able to demodulate and put the AM (amplitude varying signals containing voice/music) directly into her ear nerves, jaw nerves..when she was near the radio station. Optically one can stimulate nerves near the "eye tooth" or "Cuspid" and "see" flashes of light on the stimulation. And it doesn't take much energy as the human nervous system is very very very sensitive to correct information..




Bob, that's very good for answer . I've never understood otherwise ... human science though , will have to embrace whole new and comprehensive approach to understanding of biological intelligence and the way it utilises chain of various chemical and biological reactions in its sophisticated 'computer circuit' serving the multiplicity of biological functions .

The IBM I believe, are now developing new model/computer system that is attempting to 'mimic ' functions of human brain to a degree, i.e. simulating the fluid, receptive and intuitive behaviour of organic matter .. rather than performing strictly, mechanical , computational and memory functions .

Well it helps to great degree to see technical models of our functions in front of us , so we are ultimately able to reflect on them and understand better what happens in ourselves , when performing similar tasks .


It sure ..the mercury fillings, I recall that now. Thanks Bob ;)

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not to sound off topic, but to give a possible answer your question. meditation allows you to learn your frequency/higher self - which allows you to be aware enough to pay attention(observe) the thought/whether or not it is subliminally foreign, or whether it is truly your own, and of your (higher) self.

That's right :angel:

Hervé
8th December 2013, 00:20
As for chips and radios size...


Going down from Micro to Nano, from http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Cal-physicists-make-a-radio-10-000-times-thinner-3235246.php#photo-2378250:


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Cal physicists make a radio 10,000 times thinner than a human hair

Bernadette Tansey, San Francisco Chronicle

Bernadette Tansey, Chronicle Staff Writer

Published 4:00 am, Thursday, November 1, 2007




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This simulation shows the electric field surrounding the nanotube radio during radio operation. Notice how the field is strongest at the tip of the nanotube and how the field varies as the nanotube vibrates. This effect allows the nanotube radio to demodulate radio signals. Courtesy Zettl Research Group, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and University of California at Berkeley Photo: Zettl Research Group, Lawrence B



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Nanotube radio (2007). Photo courtesy of Zettl Research Group, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and University of California at Berkeley

Physicists at UC Berkeley say they have produced the world's smallest radio out of a single carbon nanotube that is 10,000 times thinner than a human hair.

Professor Alex Zettl (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Alex+Zettl%22) led a team that developed the minuscule filament, which can be tuned to receive AM or FM transmissions.

The first song it played? "Layla" by Derek & the Dominos. Eric Clapton (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Eric+Clapton%22)'s unmistakable guitar riff can be heard on a scratchy recording of the nanoradio's output posted by Zettl online.

Zettl said the device, built by graduate student Kenneth Jensen (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Kenneth+Jensen%22), is the first radio within the size range of nanotechnology, which covers inventions no larger than 100 billionths of a meter. The nanoradio is 100 billion times smaller than the first commercial radios of the early 20th century. It is a thousand times smaller than the most minute radios in use today, which are based on silicon chip technology.

The research team has no commercial partners yet, but Zettl said the practical applications of the nanoradio could include cell phones, climate-monitoring systems and radio-controlled diagnostic probes that could move through the human bloodstream.

"Maybe the kids will be wearing these instead of iPods, inside their ears," Zettl said.

As long as 10 years ago, scientists had managed to build individual components of a radio on the nanoscale, he said. But Zettl and his colleagues figured out how to make a single nanotube perform all the functions of a radio: It serves as an antenna, tuner, amplifier and demodulator. The demodulator eliminates any frequencies from a radio transmission except the signal to be played, such as a song.

"I hate to sound like I'm selling a Ginsu knife - 'But wait, there's more! It also slices and dices!' - but this one nanotube does everything," Zettl said.

The key to this feat was making the nanoradio work differently from conventional radio electronics. The first step in that old technology is to convert radio waves into pulses of electronic current. By contrast, the nanotube absorbs the radio transmission and physically vibrates in response, like a tuning fork or the tiny hairlike structures inside the human ear. The filament has one end mounted in an electrode, but the other end is free. Its vibrations change the patterns in an electric field created by a battery. The varying electronic patterns become sounds or music audible through headphones.

Jensen's (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Jensen%27s%22) choice for one of the first songs played on the nanoradio was "Good Vibrations (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Good+Vibrations%22)" by the Beach Boys (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Beach+Boys%22).

But there is indeed more. The nanotube can also function as a transmitter. Theoretically, thousands of nanoradios distributed through the air or in the bloodstream could send back signals about air quality or the state of a patient's cells, Zettl said.

Carbon nanotubes are immensely strong compounds made of carbon atoms linked in a structure that looks like chicken wire. The carbon sheets can be formed into hollow tubes. Zettl's research team tweaked the nanotube structures and found that multi-walled cylinders - tubes within tubes - were better for picking up AM and FM transmissions. Single-walled nanotubes were best for receiving the frequencies used in cell phones.

The team built a transmitter in the lab based on conventional electronics, and first proved that the nanoradio could pick up and play "Layla" about 10 months ago. But the scientists held the news for publication in the journal Nano Letters, which posted it online on Wednesday. Along with Jensen and Zettl, the co-authors of the paper were UC Berkeley postdoctoral fellow Jeff Weldon (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Jeff+Weldon%22) and physics graduate student Henry Garcia (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Henry+Garcia%22). The project was funded by the National Science Foundation (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22National+Science+Foundation%22) and the Department of Energy (http://www.sfgate.com/?controllerName=search&action=search&channel=technology&search=1&inlineLink=1&query=%22Department+of+Energy%22).

Hear a recording of the first song ever played on a nanotube radio at sfgate.com/ZBKF.


http://cdn.sfgate.com/blogs/sounds/sfgate/chroncast/2007/10/31/nanoradio-layla.mp3



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seehas
8th December 2013, 00:55
http://mattcegelske.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Dugan-300x200.jpg

ive just dug a bit into the history of this lady "Regina E. Dugan", she worked for the goverment as well as military industry and behond that her dad (http://www.redxdefense.com/RedX_site/RedX_People.htm#VD) is also big in the military industry, it seems that google/facebook and co. got infilitrated by the military indusrial complex.

i just cant belive how she is trying to sell this stuff to kids like they are her labor-rats, either she is not human or she had a horrible childhood.

Flash
8th December 2013, 01:02
Very interesting Seehas. I would also like to know the meaning of the formulaes on her hand.

Jeffrey
8th December 2013, 18:08
This is not a conspiracy anymore, it has arrived.

Google will put on the market an tatooed FRID saying that the Young will get on the bandwagon fast enough just to resist thier parents, well, obviously, the population has been trained in the last 20years to accept tatoos as normality, going to the next step will be a breeze for PTB.

A second RFID chip is being launched which will make your whole body a chip, detectable anywhere you go, by Google too.



From a different GooTube uploader :

Published on Nov 12, 2013
Learn more at: http://www.beast-technology.com/

Audience applauds as Regina E. Dugan -- former Director of DARPA and current executive at Google -- describes with excitement the coming BEAST TECH smart tattoos and ingestible biochips that are ALREADY FDA APPROVED and that people will want to receive (and then be REQUIRED to receive) by 2017. She glows about the "super powers" the MARK will give her and says today's generation wants them too. Unfortunately, as documented in the book BEAST TECH, she is right.

The "elites/NWO" organize the banking industry in such a way that when it all collapses, they will have strategically positioned us to accept their solution while having us believe that it's a good thing because we are so fed up with the banksters. They have think tanks dedicated to this stuff, and other strange means of developing and implementing their plan for humanity.

In my opinion, this is tied to cryptocurrencies. Bitcoin being the prime example. Everyone will welcome it! Japan's economy collapses, the US economy crashes, and the dominoes start falling. People turn to cryptocurrencies (or have already begun turning). What's the easiest way to facilitate exchange in real world transactions for goods and services? Ultimately, it would be the RFID tagging system (described in the OP) banking on the success of cryptocurrencies and integrating it as a means of payment for everyday things. They are moving chess pieces right in front of us.

This is their strategy! A completely cashless society! First by chipped credit cards, then something like NFC, but ultimately RFID tagging the people themselves. We are talking five years here. They will market it as the only way to buy and sell. People won't have time to think about it because of the stresses they will be under from the fallout of a destroyed economy, they will have to accept it in a hurry. Something will have to be done and done fast, little do they know that this plan has been in development for at least several decades.

The tagging system will also connect us with technology, how convenient! A package deal!

They are arranging this on purpose and we are watching their moves unfold before our eyes. It's tied into so much else.

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Of course, it won't be sold as slavery. Initially, it will connect us with the technologies in our homes over the next ten years. The degree of technology available for the home will be radically different with the developments of robotics coming within that same time-frame. People will welcome it in a hurry (under economic stresses), then support it through various technological developments that will interface with it until the paradigm sold to us infects enough minds ... Then, then they will see what situation they are truly in when they realize what's really been done.

It's all connected: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66167-URGENT--It-will-be-here-soon--Please-be-AWARE

Hervé
8th December 2013, 18:28
[...]

The "elites/NWO" organize the banking industry in such a way that when it all collapses, they will have strategically positioned us to accept their solution while having us believe that it's a good thing because we are so fed up with the banksters. They have think tanks dedicated to this stuff, and other strange means of developing and implementing their plan for humanity.

[...]

Hi Jeff,

I so agree:


I see that many people follow the logic that with a limited dedicated listeners/observers they cannot follow 7 billion individuals... so, why do they do it and record everything?

It's called fine tuning their social engineering software, test what works now, what's not working yet that needs more MSM preps, etc... in order to hone their modelisation of population REACTION to lead said population where they want it to be. Right now, although RFID chips are nano size (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66184-IMPORTANT-RFID-tatoo-and-whole-walking-body-RFID&p=769050&viewfull=1#post769050) and can be ingested with any food, or any wild games which ingested it from chemtrails, etc... they are working hard to get populations to AGREE that a tattoo chip to pay bills (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66184-IMPORTANT-RFID-tatoo-and-whole-walking-body-RFID) is the best thing since slice bread... sigh...

Robin
8th December 2013, 19:56
http://mattcegelske.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Dugan-300x200.jpg



Very interesting Seehas. I would also like to know the meaning of the formulaes on her hand.

The formulas may not even be the main message of the photo...

I think the fact that she is isolating a single eye with her hand, added to all of the triangles in the formulas gives us a clear indication that she (and Google) are controlled by the Illuminati.

:suspicious:

By the way...the triangle symbol in mathematical terms is Delta...which means change.

Becky
8th December 2013, 20:13
The lady on the clip talks about the chip giving us our first super powers - we have super powers already that we don't realize - literally.
The chip will take away our powers. I know I've totally stated the obvious - sorry if someone has said this already.

Flash
8th December 2013, 20:22
http://mattcegelske.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Dugan-300x200.jpg



Very interesting Seehas. I would also like to know the meaning of the formulaes on her hand.

The formulas may not even be the main message of the photo...

I think the fact that she is isolating a single eye with her hand, added to all of the triangles in the formulas gives us a clear indication that she (and Google) are controlled by the Illuminati.

:suspicious:

By the way...the triangle symbol in mathematical terms is Delta...which means change.

I agree with the eyes and delta symbol, we may have a little Avalon Genius here who knows both, math formulaes and illuminati symbology and will give us and account of the whole message.

But no doubt, this picture alone tells us how Google is contorlled by now.

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The lady on the clip talks about the chip giving us our first super powers - we have super powers already that we don't realize - literally.
The chip will take away our powers. I know I've totally stated the obvious - sorry if someone has said this already.

No please Becky, do remind us over and over again, we do have a huge tendency to forget or not believe in ourselves.

Hervé
8th December 2013, 22:19
Following along the line of social engineering:

See cyberspying for what it is: A type of psychiatry (http://www.azcentral.com/opinions/articles/20131207cyberspying-type-psychiatry.html)

SHARE URL (http://www.azcentral.com/opinions/articles/20131207cyberspying-type-psychiatry.html#)

By Doug MacEachern The Republic | azcentral.com Sat Dec 7, 2013 4:50 PM

Edward Snowden’s magic thumb drive holds a lot of state secrets. But it doesn’t hold them all.

Vainglorious Ed knows much about what the United States is snooping into. His latest release is a beauty, in fact, revealing that the National Security Agency sweeps up 5 billion cellphone-call records worldwide every day.

The Snowden reveals are the perfect holiday scandal — the one that just keeps on giving.

But there is a flip side to all this very disquieting news about the disappearance of our personal privacy space and the federal government’s role in taking it away from us.

The NSA is not the only pack of supersnoops tapped into the waves of American metadata washing daily from sea to sea. They aren’t the only ones looking into our personal lives in places we do not like having them look.

Cyberthievery is becoming rampant. On Wednesday, I got a letter from the Maricopa County Community College District informing me of “a security incident that may have resulted in the disclosure of your personal information.”

Perhaps you heard about it. More than 2.4 million students, former students and employees may have had their personal information held by the college district stolen.

Personally, I’m outraged about this. Not because thieves may have stolen my data. But because I can’t for the life of me figure out why the district has my data in the first place. I’ve never taken a class there! What the hell are they doing with my stuff?

Maybe the answer is that far more people have our stuff than most of us realize.
Not so long ago, the most closely held secret at the Pentagon was the design of the F-35, the new generation of attack jet. A group of hackers known as Titan Rain/Byzantine Hades is believed to have stolen much of the F-35 design data on behalf of the Chinese in the mid-2000s.

But the mother lode of U.S. data treasured by Chinese hackers is not necessarily government or military, but industrial. Estimates of U.S. intellectual property appropriated by hackers — many of them working on behalf of Chinese interests, including the government — may reach into the trillions of dollars worth. That doesn’t even include Beijing’s own Snowden-esque attempts at hacking of U.S. state secrets.

But beating up on the Chinese government for its industrial-strength piracy programs in fact understates the threats that are out there to what we used to know as “privacy.”

There are so many interests around the world attacking our electronically stored private space, and many of them are so malign and pervasive that they are creating a counterintuitive conundrum:

In order to defend against destructive attacks and thefts of private data, U.S. interests — both private and federal — cannot simply be current with the tactics of cyberattackers. In the fast-evolving world of cybertechnology, those who are merely current are, in all probability, behind the curve created by an aggressive intruder, especially if it is a well-financed state-based intruder.

No, they must be ahead of the curve. And the only way to get ahead of the curve is to be better at cyberspying than the other guy.

So, like it or not, the NSA clearly has become very good at cyberspying, in part by developing its capacity for being intrusive, which includes sweeping up all that metadata all around the world. Call it Cold War II. Our cyberspies have to be better and more powerful than their cyberspies, or this entire digitalized world in which we live may go “kaboom!”

If that strikes you as cold comfort for having lost almost all of what we used to call “privacy,” I can’t help but agree. The question is: What is the alternative?

“The Internet is starting to look like neuroscience,” said Dave McMahon, a computer-systems consultant for the Washington, D.C.-based SecDev Group. McMahon spoke at a recent seminar on national security hosted by the Heritage Foundation.

“We deal with pathologies on the Internet the same way as pathologies of the psyche.”

McMahon is not exaggerating. Just as with neurology, the study of cyberactivity is evolving into a study of patterns of interconnected electronic activity. That is the essence of how the brain interacts with the rest of the body. And it is the essence of how metadata trackers at the NSA and elsewhere spy on people. They don’t have to listen in on individual phone calls. All they need to do is follow the flow of electrons. They follow patterns. And relationships.

A great example of how modern meta-spying occurs was created recently by Kieran Healy, an associate professor of sociology at Duke University. He performed a “metadata” analysis of information that could have ended the American Revolution before it got started.

Healy compiled data that would have been readily available to British intelligence officers in 1772 — the names of Boston-area men’s social clubs and their membership lists, which included 254 men. By cross-referencing clubs and members (many gentlemen of the era belonged to multiple such clubs), Healy was able to put together an intricately woven graphic that looks very much like the results of a PET scan on a patient’s brain.

And right at the center of Healy’s web of patterns? There were two names that clearly stood out as being by far the most interconnected — and, so, best informed — men in late-18th-century Boston.

One was Thomas Urann, one of the organizers of the Boston Tea Party, the signature protest act that helped launch the Revolution. The other was Paul Revere.

Find those two characters, throw them into a dank Boston cell block for a while, and you have gone a long way toward subverting a revolution. It’s a good thing there was no such thing as a British intelligence officer working Boston in 1772.

You can’t say the same now. Not only are there countless intelligence officers on all sides of countless fences, but there is an increasingly deep trove of cyberwealth about us for them to plumb.

“Everything on Earth has the capacity to be part of the Internet,” said McMahon. “We are seeing the convergence of all technologies and media.”

Is it any wonder then that, at the same time, the concept of privacy we once took for granted is evaporating?

Reach MacEachern at doug.maceachern@arizonarepublic.com.



All they need to do is spot their "Paul Revere" or "Thomas Urann" at the center of a connection web (e.g. Alexa's index), turn them into sleepers and... wooooshhhh... revolution spreads like a sweeping, wildly galloping bushfire! Whether that be a Lady Gaga screaming "get that RFID chip for a free ticket" or a famous soccer player entoning a bank run hymn... all the same in the end.

RunningDeer
9th December 2013, 00:44
The NSA is not the only pack of supersnoops tapped into the waves of American metadata washing daily from sea to sea. They aren’t the only ones looking into our personal lives in places we do not like having them look.
Exposing 'Five Eyes' Global Surveillance Cabal

Recent NSA leak which links the US, UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand as an international intelligence partnership focused on surveillance of each other's citizens.


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Published on Dec 4, 2013

Hervé
9th December 2013, 02:19
Who says no one can make this stuff up? Someone did!:

Amend the Fed: We Need a Central Bank that Serves Main Street (http://ellenbrown.com/2013/12/07/amend-the-fed-we-need-a-central-bank-that-serves-main-street/)
Posted on December 7, 2013 by Ellen Brown




December 23rd marks the 100th anniversary of the Federal Reserve. Dissatisfaction with its track record has prompted calls to audit the Fed and end the Fed. At the least, Congress needs to amend the Fed, modifying the Federal Reserve Act to give the central bank the tools necessary to carry out its mandates.




The Federal Reserve is the only central bank with a dual mandate. It is charged not only with maintaining low, stable inflation but with promoting maximum sustainable employment. Yet unemployment remains stubbornly high, despite four years of radical tinkering with interest rates and quantitative easing (creating money on the Fed’s books). After pushing interest rates as low as they can go, the Fed has admitted that it has run out of tools.

At an IMF conference on November 8, 2013, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers suggested that since near-zero interest rates were not adequately promoting people to borrow and spend, it might now be necessary to set interest at below zero. This idea was lauded and expanded upon by other ivory-tower inside-the-box thinkers, including Paul Krugman.

Negative interest would mean that banks would charge the depositor for holding his deposits rather than paying interest on them. Runs on the banks would no doubt follow, but the pundits have a solution for that: move to a cashless society, in which all money would be electronic. “This would make it impossible to hoard cash outside the bank,” wrote Danny Vinik in Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/larry-summers-imf-speech-on-the-zero-lower-bound-2013-11), “allowing the Fed to cut interest rates to below zero, spurring people to spend more.” He concluded:

. . . Summers’ speech is a reminder to all liberals that he is a brilliant economist who grasps the long-term issues of monetary policy and would likely have made an exemplary Fed chair.

Maybe; but to ordinary mortals living in the less rarefied atmosphere of the real world, the proposal to impose negative interest rates looks either inane or like the next giant step toward the totalitarian New World Order. Business Week quotes Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former director of the Congressional Budget Office: “We’ve had four years of extraordinarily loose monetary policy without satisfactory results, and the only thing they come up with is we need more?”

Paul Craig Roberts (http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2013/11/29/money-changers-serenade-new-plot-hatches-paul-craig-roberts/), former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, calls the idea “harebrained.” He is equally skeptical of quantitative easing, the Fed’s other tool for stimulating the economy. Roberts points to Andrew Huszar’s explosive November 11th Wall Street Journal article titled “Confessions of a Quantitative Easer (http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303763804579183680751473884),” in which Huszar says that QE was always intended to serve Wall Street, not Main Street. Huszar’s assignment at the Fed was to manage the purchase of $1.25 trillion in mortgages with dollars created on a computer screen. He says he resigned when he realized that the real purpose of the policy was to drive up the prices of the banks’ holdings of debt instruments, to provide the banks with trillions of dollars at zero cost with which to lend and speculate, and to provide the banks with “fat commissions from brokering most of the Fed’s QE transactions.”


Full article: http://ellenbrown.com/2013/12/07/amend-the-fed-we-need-a-central-bank-that-serves-main-street/

Flash
9th December 2013, 02:23
yep, it is all coming together: we chip you, we get rid of paper money - just have electronic money, then we have full control of everyone on the planet.

Becky
9th December 2013, 09:19
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The lady on the clip talks about the chip giving us our first super powers - we have super powers already that we don't realize - literally.
The chip will take away our powers. I know I've totally stated the obvious - sorry if someone has said this already.

No please Becky, do remind us over and over again, we do have a huge tendency to forget or not believe in ourselves.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Flash - I needed to remind myself of this as I forget it and lack belief in myself all the time!
Becky x

toad
9th December 2013, 10:19
This is not a conspiracy anymore, it has arrived.

Google will put on the market an tatooed FRID saying that the Young will get on the bandwagon fast enough just to resist thier parents, well, obviously, the population has been trained in the last 20years to accept tatoos as normality, going to the next step will be a breeze for PTB.



You do realize that it isn't really a tattoo right? Technically is a 'peel-and-stick sensor patch technology'. Also it is just a patent, and what you see right there is most likely just some design prototype. Companies especially those such as Google or Motorola, are professional patent trolls and they will gobble up ideas as fast as possible if they think it might somehow become reality in the future, regardless if they don't know how it will work.

Here is the patent incase you're curious: patent (http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=20130297301.PGNR.&OS=DN/20130297301&RS=DN/20130297301)


A second RFID chip is being launched which will make your whole body a chip, detectable anywhere you go, by Google too.

Former director at DARPA not Google executive, Regina Dugan, talks about it .

This is very dangerous, it is the new form of slavery. Those chips can communicate both ways, you can receive controlling commands, death threat or death through it, if DARPA or Google decides so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ijwhSqrcD4

I think she looks like an ET, the non sympathetic ones, she gives me the chill.

Make your whole body a chip?!? Heh, that would be cool. From what I can see the system is a 3 piece; the digital pill, the skin sensor,


The lady on the clip talks about the chip giving us our first super powers - we have super powers already that we don't realize - literally.
The chip will take away our powers. I know I've totally stated the obvious - sorry if someone has said this already.

I don't think she meant super powers in the way you may be thinking. She was talking about her body being her token, or her ID for authenticating, which is different then using bio-metrics.

It could be easy to misunderstand

Even when that guy said something sarcastically 'Is Google going to know everything about me now?' and she replied simply, 'No its just going to tell you that you ate a pill'. If you actually look up what these two things are they are

This also dissolves quite rapidly, so its not like you're are being tagged. I could see this platform having some real medical benefits.

--

Its amazing how most things related to RFID or anything related on youtube are similar to 'Beast Tech' 'Mark of the Beast' and other nonsense. :( Its sad that some people have to have such preconceptions and a mind closed down.

Flash
9th December 2013, 13:09
This is not a conspiracy anymore, it has arrived.

Google will put on the market an tatooed FRID saying that the Young will get on the bandwagon fast enough just to resist thier parents, well, obviously, the population has been trained in the last 20years to accept tatoos as normality, going to the next step will be a breeze for PTB.



You do realize that it isn't really a tattoo right? Technically is a 'peel-and-stick sensor patch technology'. Also it is just a patent, and what you see right there is most likely just some design prototype. Companies especially those such as Google or Motorola, are professional patent trolls and they will gobble up ideas as fast as possible if they think it might somehow become reality in the future, regardless if they don't know how it will work.

Here is the patent incase you're curious: patent (http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PG01&s1=20130297301.PGNR.&OS=DN/20130297301&RS=DN/20130297301)


A second RFID chip is being launched which will make your whole body a chip, detectable anywhere you go, by Google too.

Former director at DARPA not Google executive, Regina Dugan, talks about it .

This is very dangerous, it is the new form of slavery. Those chips can communicate both ways, you can receive controlling commands, death threat or death through it, if DARPA or Google decides so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ijwhSqrcD4

I think she looks like an ET, the non sympathetic ones, she gives me the chill.

Make your whole body a chip?!? Heh, that would be cool. From what I can see the system is a 3 piece; the digital pill, the skin sensor,


The lady on the clip talks about the chip giving us our first super powers - we have super powers already that we don't realize - literally.
The chip will take away our powers. I know I've totally stated the obvious - sorry if someone has said this already.

I don't think she meant super powers in the way you may be thinking. She was talking about her body being her token, or her ID for authenticating, which is different then using bio-metrics.

It could be easy to misunderstand

Even when that guy said something sarcastically 'Is Google going to know everything about me now?' and she replied simply, 'No its just going to tell you that you ate a pill'. If you actually look up what these two things are they are

This also dissolves quite rapidly, so its not like you're are being tagged. I could see this platform having some real medical benefits.

--

Its amazing how most things related to RFID or anything related on youtube are similar to 'Beast Tech' 'Mark of the Beast' and other nonsense. :( Its sad that some people have to have such preconceptions and a mind closed down.

I do think Toad that you have not read the whole thread. Bobd describes very well what this is and the différences between and authentifier and a real tagging. He describes further how it can evolve as well.

The problem stems in the probable evolution of it. Get use to tatoo, as our children and sometimes ourselves have been, then get use to an authentifier on the body and in the body, while your phone could very well make it, for no reason get this (a medical thing is something different), then get used of being an ambulant GPS, handy, then why not having all your informations in you for banking, or as they are implementing in Canada right now, your entire medical file in a RF, then just swallow the thing, why not, everyone having the machine to read it will be able to "help you" or to "bank you". And being trained, we will just stupidly do it.

After that, make the ocmmunication both way, so that we can send you signal within you body.

I do not give it more than 5 years if we do not resist from the start.

In 1987, a clairvoyant friend of mine, now deceased, had told me that the trouble would start with the chips in our banking and credit cards. To watch from that time, it will unfold almost flawlessly, to be careful. Europe and Canada have had those cards for may years now. Only the US has resisted.

I went to the hospital one day, and they wanted me to sign a paper where I accepted to release all of my medical file and all of my blood test past and future to the university trying to implement automatic recognition (authentification) to take appointments so that they would save jobs costs. They were also asking our full both hands print, in the software. The waiting room had about 100 patients. I was the only one to refuse and I was looked upon as a weirdo by others. The clerk told me if I did not sign this, I would not be able to have appointments with my doctor. I made a fuss telling them "what, you are refusing medical care because I won't sign for a research" to which a soemone in whilte lab coat answered, "no no, madame, you will be able to see your doctor" and made me go aside and use my hospital card.

This is what I mean as training us. It will be province wide soon. And people do sign the right to their body away.

Hervé
11th December 2013, 13:01
It's going to be planet wide body spotting...

Darpa’s Giant Folding Spy Satellite Will Dwarf All Other Space Telescopes (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/12/giant-folding-satellite/)
By Allen McDuffee (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/author/amcduffee/), 12.09.13, 3:29 PM


http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2013/12/DARPAMOIREMembraneOptics-660x440.jpg (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/12/giant-folding-satellite/darpamoiremembraneoptics/)
Photo: Darpa


Spying could become much easier if a new lightweight, folding satellite concept gets off the ground.

Darpa, the military’s futuristic research agency, says it has plans to “break the glass ceiling” of space telescopes by shooting a new design into orbit that’s made of plastic and unfolds into a mammoth satellite that would dwarf the world’s most famous telescopes.

Darpa’s Membrane Optical Imager for Real-Time Exploitation (MOIRE) program redesigns the traditional glass telescope into an orbital telescope that’s bigger and lighter than previous imaging satellites, making it easier to spy on larger areas and for longer periods of time.

Launched as a tightly packed cluster of petals 20 feet in diameter, MOIRE stretches to 68 feet across once it reaches 22,000 miles above the earth. From orbit, MOIRE could view approximately 40 percent of the earth’s surface at once while recording high resolution images and video, making it the ultimate spying satellite (Darpa notes that it could also be beneficial in weather forecasting and disaster response).


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Up to this point, high resolution imagery has required large-diameter mirrors, but the thick, heavy glass is difficult to make and expensive. According to Darpa, to keep up, the glass mirrors are rapidly approaching the point where they will be too large, heavy and costly for even the largest of today’s rockets.

“Membrane optics could enable us to fit much larger, higher-resolution telescopes in smaller and lighter packages,” said Lt. Col. Larry Gunn, Darpa program manager, in a statement (http://www.darpa.mil/NewsEvents/Releases/2013/12/05.aspx). “In that respect, we’re ‘breaking the glass ceiling’ that traditional materials impose on optics design.”

Instead of reflecting light with mirrors or refracting it with lenses as traditional space telescopes do, MOIRE’s membrane — roughly the thickness of kitchen plastic wrap — optics diffract light.

And because MOIRE is so much lighter and smaller at launch, Darpa thinks the program will be budget-wise and more efficient.

“We’re hoping our research could also help greatly reduce overall costs and enable more timely deployment using smaller, less expensive launch vehicles,” said Gunn.

Darpa says the MOIRE program is in its second and final phase and recently demonstrated a ground-based prototype that implemented several critical aspects of the project.

The sizes of the Spitzer, Hubble, Webb and Keck telescopes show there’s no comparison to what the MOIRE telescope could cover:


http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2013/12/DARPAMOIRESizeComparison-660x598.jpg (http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/12/giant-folding-satellite/darpamoiresizecomparison/)

Flash
11th December 2013, 20:48
Who tells us this new spying satellite is not to control the numerous implant we may one day have, thanks to our govenrments and their corporate partners?

Bob
11th December 2013, 21:18
Who tells us this new spying satellite is not to control the numerous implant we may one day have, thanks to our govenrments and their corporate partners?

Hi Flash, irrelevant information to your RF-ID thread (Radio Frequency Identification tagging), the post by Amzer Zo is about a satellite, using MEMBRANE OPTICS. Has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this thread.

From the article Amzer Zo posted to your thread, "Darpa’s Membrane Optical Imager for Real-Time Exploitation (MOIRE) program redesigns the traditional glass telescope into an orbital telescope that’s bigger and lighter than previous imaging satellites, making it easier to spy on larger areas and for longer periods of time"

An optical satellite is used to look at targets such as in Afghanistan, or over Syria, to provide adequate battlefield images of tanks, troops, munitions..

Bob
11th December 2013, 21:22
Who says no one can make this stuff up? Someone did!:

Amend the Fed: We Need a Central Bank that Serves Main Street (http://ellenbrown.com/2013/12/07/amend-the-fed-we-need-a-central-bank-that-serves-main-street/)
Posted on December 7, 2013 by Ellen Brown
[...]
Full article: http://ellenbrown.com/2013/12/07/amend-the-fed-we-need-a-central-bank-that-serves-main-street/

Why is this post in the RFID Thread? I looked in the link and there is NO REFERENCE about using RFID tags.

Hervé
11th December 2013, 23:50
[...]

Hi Flash, irrelevant information to your RF-ID thread (Radio Frequency Identification tagging)[...]


Since when a parabolic metallic frame made to encase "optical" (metal-coated?) membrane mirrors cannot be used to collect EM waves?



[...]

... move to a cashless society, in which all money would be electronic.

[...]

Why is this post in the RFID Thread? I looked in the link and there is NO REFERENCE about using RFID tags.

There's your answer.

Agape
12th December 2013, 00:15
Who tells us this new spying satellite is not to control the numerous implant we may one day have, thanks to our govenrments and their corporate partners?

Hi Flash, irrelevant information to your RF-ID thread (Radio Frequency Identification tagging), the post by Amzer Zo is about a satellite, using MEMBRANE OPTICS. Has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this thread.

From the article Amzer Zo posted to your thread, "Darpa’s Membrane Optical Imager for Real-Time Exploitation (MOIRE) program redesigns the traditional glass telescope into an orbital telescope that’s bigger and lighter than previous imaging satellites, making it easier to spy on larger areas and for longer periods of time"

An optical satellite is used to look at targets such as in Afghanistan, or over Syria, to provide adequate battlefield images of tanks, troops, munitions..



Membrane optics ..to see tanks yeah ? It's very many years back when someone who worked in the satellite industry assured me that they are able to see a 'match box' from satellite , if they want to.
I thought he was exaggerating a bit . Nowadays, I'm really not sure .

But see .. your cell phone is very well trackable from satellite using GPS and what about any other chip emitting particular frequency that is readable to positioning system on the satellite .

It's one of the most suggestive applications it seems to offer .. nowadays, dogs and cats in Europe have to be chipped, it's almost compulsory in many countries .
Next they chip kids so they don't get lost, then elderly people with Alzheimers ,
prisoners, policemen , heroes and villians and who remains ..

wolves I think. But they're almost all chipped too now.


:violin:

Bob
12th December 2013, 00:34
Who tells us this new spying satellite is not to control the numerous implant we may one day have, thanks to our govenrments and their corporate partners?

Hi Flash, irrelevant information to your RF-ID thread (Radio Frequency Identification tagging), the post by Amzer Zo is about a satellite, using MEMBRANE OPTICS. Has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this thread.

From the article Amzer Zo posted to your thread, "Darpa’s Membrane Optical Imager for Real-Time Exploitation (MOIRE) program redesigns the traditional glass telescope into an orbital telescope that’s bigger and lighter than previous imaging satellites, making it easier to spy on larger areas and for longer periods of time"

An optical satellite is used to look at targets such as in Afghanistan, or over Syria, to provide adequate battlefield images of tanks, troops, munitions..



Membrane optics ..to see tanks yeah ? It's very many years back when someone who worked in the satellite industry assured me that they are able to see a 'match box' from satellite , if they want to.
I thought he was exaggerating a bit . Nowadays, I'm really not sure .

But see .. your cell phone is very well trackable from satellite using GPS and what about any other chip emitting particular frequency that is readable to positioning system on the satellite .

It's one of the most suggestive applications it seems to offer .. nowadays, dogs and cats in Europe have to be chipped, it's almost compulsory in many countries .
Next they chip kids so they don't get lost, then elderly people with Alzheimers ,
prisoners, policemen , heroes and villians and who remains ..

wolves I think. But they're almost all chipped too now.


:violin:

The RF output from an active (battery powered RF device) could be up to a mile. The battery pack would have to be something the size of your watch, seems to me u are going to notice having a bulge that size somewhere on your body. Why would anybody bother btw unless one needs an ankle bracelet, and that basically is what said RF device would be like.

The Passive "metallic tatoo" can be interrogated by a scanner from about 3 feet away. That is the implant type of chip. The power to read the chip comes from an external high powered transmitter which has to be in close range.

A microwave signal powered chip device can be picked up at a maximum distance of 30 feet with the newest systems. However said systems have to not be next to any absorber materials such as tissue, or water based foods, or metal objects. They cannot be implanted therefore due to the attenuation of a microwave signal by water.

A satellite in low earth orbit may be 100 or so miles up, a geosynchronous satellite is up there at 35,786 km away.

There is no possibility of any such passive device being used to track or control at said distances from satellite.

Any OPTICAL satellite has no front end detector (radio wave detector) on it capable of picking up RF (radio frequency signals) from the gain of the MIRROR, and there is no reason to do such. Nor does such an optical receiver satellite have a billion watt transmitter on it needed to power up a passive RF-ID chip device implanted in or on moist water tissue.

IF there was a billion watt satellite beaming microwave power at you, you wouldn't have to be worried about any RF-ID tags.. think what roasting a chicken would be like in a microwave oven - that's the power level needed at ground level to come out of a satellite to excite a passive RF-ID device and have it's signal picked up by satellite.. It can't happen with any passive technology to be used subversively in the manner suggested.

RFID DISTANCE ref: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/show?139
"The distance from which a tag can be read is called its read range. Read range depends on a number of factors, including the frequency of the radio waves uses for tag-reader communication, the size of the tag antenna, the power output of the reader, and whether the tags have a battery to broadcast a signal or gather energy from a reader and merely reflect a weak signal back to the reader. Battery-powered tags typically have a read range of 300 feet (100 meters). These are the kinds of tags used in toll collection systems. High-frequency tags, which are often used in smart cards, have a read range of three feet or less. UHF tags-the kind used on pallets and cases of goods in the supply chain-have a read range of 20 to 30 feet under ideal conditions. If the tags are attached to products with water or metal, the read range can be significantly less. If the size of the UHF antenna is reduced, that will also dramatically reduce the read range."

REF: http://www.skyrfid.com/RFID_Tag_Read_Ranges.php

As far as Wolf tracking devices, these are very different than the implantable chip (which I showed a picture of in an earlier post, the glass encapsulated thing injected under the skin).

Here is a picture below of that - notice the thing around his neck - like the ankle bracelet, this is ACTIVE and battery powered. Active means it transmits a high powered signal that can be picked up at a distance, and ACTIVE devices are needed to achieve distance.

Not something you are going to easily miss wearing, or miss some bulge inside your body, and seeing the antenna sticking out somewhere if that is the case.. :eek:


http://www.oregonwild.org/images/Sophie_B_300.jpg/image_preview

Flash
12th December 2013, 02:09
Who tells us this new spying satellite is not to control the numerous implant we may one day have, thanks to our govenrments and their corporate partners?

Hi Flash, irrelevant information to your RF-ID thread (Radio Frequency Identification tagging), the post by Amzer Zo is about a satellite, using MEMBRANE OPTICS. Has NOTHING WHAT SO EVER to do with this thread.

From the article Amzer Zo posted to your thread, "Darpa’s Membrane Optical Imager for Real-Time Exploitation (MOIRE) program redesigns the traditional glass telescope into an orbital telescope that’s bigger and lighter than previous imaging satellites, making it easier to spy on larger areas and for longer periods of time"

An optical satellite is used to look at targets such as in Afghanistan, or over Syria, to provide adequate battlefield images of tanks, troops, munitions..



Membrane optics ..to see tanks yeah ? It's very many years back when someone who worked in the satellite industry assured me that they are able to see a 'match box' from satellite , if they want to.
I thought he was exaggerating a bit . Nowadays, I'm really not sure .

But see .. your cell phone is very well trackable from satellite using GPS and what about any other chip emitting particular frequency that is readable to positioning system on the satellite .

It's one of the most suggestive applications it seems to offer .. nowadays, dogs and cats in Europe have to be chipped, it's almost compulsory in many countries .
Next they chip kids so they don't get lost, then elderly people with Alzheimers ,
prisoners, policemen , heroes and villians and who remains ..

wolves I think. But they're almost all chipped too now.


:violin:

The RF output from an active (battery powered RF device) could be up to a mile. The battery pack would have to be something the size of your watch, seems to me u are going to notice having a bulge that size somewhere on your body. Why would anybody bother btw unless one needs an ankle bracelet, and that basically is what said RF device would be like.

The Passive "metallic tatoo" can be interrogated by a scanner from about 3 feet away. That is the implant type of chip. The power to read the chip comes from an external high powered transmitter which has to be in close range.

A microwave signal powered chip device can be picked up at a maximum distance of 30 feet with the newest systems. However said systems have to not be next to any absorber materials such as tissue, or water based foods, or metal objects. They cannot be implanted therefore due to the attenuation of a microwave signal by water.

A satellite in low earth orbit may be 100 or so miles up, a geosynchronous satellite is up there at 35,786 km away.

There is no possibility of any such passive device being used to track or control at said distances from satellite.

Any OPTICAL satellite has no front end detector (radio wave detector) on it capable of picking up RF (radio frequency signals) from the gain of the MIRROR, and there is no reason to do such. Nor does such an optical receiver satellite have a billion watt transmitter on it needed to power up a passive RF-ID chip device implanted in or on moist water tissue.

IF there was a billion watt satellite beaming microwave power at you, you wouldn't have to be worried about any RF-ID tags.. think what roasting a chicken would be like in a microwave oven - that's the power level needed at ground level to come out of a satellite to excite a passive RF-ID device and have it's signal picked up by satellite.. It can't happen with any passive technology to be used subversively in the manner suggested.

RFID DISTANCE ref: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/show?139
"The distance from which a tag can be read is called its read range. Read range depends on a number of factors, including the frequency of the radio waves uses for tag-reader communication, the size of the tag antenna, the power output of the reader, and whether the tags have a battery to broadcast a signal or gather energy from a reader and merely reflect a weak signal back to the reader. Battery-powered tags typically have a read range of 300 feet (100 meters). These are the kinds of tags used in toll collection systems. High-frequency tags, which are often used in smart cards, have a read range of three feet or less. UHF tags-the kind used on pallets and cases of goods in the supply chain-have a read range of 20 to 30 feet under ideal conditions. If the tags are attached to products with water or metal, the read range can be significantly less. If the size of the UHF antenna is reduced, that will also dramatically reduce the read range."

REF: http://www.skyrfid.com/RFID_Tag_Read_Ranges.php

As far as Wolf tracking devices, these are very different than the implantable chip (which I showed a picture of in an earlier post, the glass encapsulated thing injected under the skin).

Here is a picture below of that - notice the thing around his neck - like the ankle bracelet, this is ACTIVE and battery powered. Active means it transmits a high powered signal that can be picked up at a distance, and ACTIVE devices are needed to achieve distance.

Not something you are going to easily miss wearing, or miss some bulge inside your body, and seeing the antenna sticking out somewhere if that is the case.. :eek:


http://www.oregonwild.org/images/Sophie_B_300.jpg/image_preview

If I understand, you are right Agape but it seems that it is not the optical satellite that would be used for this, but rather local stations and their repeaters (like for telephone lines).

Also, in your last post Bob, where we see the batteries on the dog neck, this is true, we would see it, at the actual developments of electronics. However, what abaout a near future where the batteries would be completely compacted of would be working as today displays from light works. May be as well that the black ops already have this kind of technology.

Just a thought, based on non science.

Bob
12th December 2013, 02:23
Being tracked happens with the cellphones already, the RF-ID bank cards, Chip'd Passports, RF-ID credit card purchases.

Implanting an RF-ID tag, or wearing a RFID tag sticker, or RF-ID tag bracelet (such as is used and required in high security areas) is possibility, but the range is limited, and if the range is limited, it is not surveillance systems from satellites that will be doing the tracking.. It is as Flash points out, Remote Readers/Interrogators on the street poles, in the buildings, in the WallyWorlds supermarkets of the world.

If one wants convenience of banking one will have a computer chip in their credit card to speed up the transactions. If one travels one will have the RFID and microprocessor chip in the passport, again to facilitate tracking and getting thru the check-in, check-out - basically tracking movements.

There is no mind control from the CHIP, nor from the passive device. Unless one has had a brain implant with an antenna sticking out to be able to be controlled, the technology, and PHYSICS is not there to allow for such control to happen, not with RF-ID tags, not with RF-ID metallic tatoos..

If the issue to be point out is surveillance and tracking that is there, and we've defined the range that tracking will be happening from. The use of RF-ID low range devices means security is greater, as the amount of HACKER influence, messing with your bank account or credit cards is LESS. NO merchant wants to have the ability of their customers to be compromised by a hacker emptying out the potential buying power derived from the customer's credit card. NO manufacturer of any said RF-ID chip and microprocessor device is going to want customers to STOP buying them if they are long range and HACKABLE..

SO the issue is not about mind control from RF-ID devices, it is about short range tracking and surveillance of a person's or a product that has been tagged, movement across commerce space. It IS that simple, and any sensationalism otherwise is not helpful to anyone on the forum.

(ED Note) - I just heard that Colorado since it has "legalized marijuana" (small amounts about an ounce per day they have said would be able to be sold to residents, and 1/4 an ounce to out-of-state'ers) that each plant will have an RF-ID tag assigned to it, from the growing to the end user sale.. It wasn't said if the TAG would be just on the growing container, or affixed in some way to the plant itself, or if that RF-ID tag would somehow end up in the end user packaging.. It could be like how consumer packaging is tagged inside of the box or within a piece of clothing these days so that no package will be able to go thru the door without being deactivated. It begs one to wonder, will there be RF-ID tracking systems then on the street poles to see where the "legalized marijuana" is being taken to..
ref: http://www.denverpost.com/marijuana/ci_24698617/colorado-officials-pot-businesses-clash-over-inventory-tracking

I would NOT put it past the system that anyone caught with such products on them will have to produce the RFID tag to show it was purchased LEGALLY from an established emporium... Maybe that is the reason for tagging besides being able to control profits along the supply chain.

Hervé
12th December 2013, 14:52
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Put the two (or three) together...


[Mod-edit:
The video above is the movie called Enemy of the State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_%28film%29)

It is a movie about the surveillance capabilities in the US and keep in mind that it was done in 1998!! I don't recall if RFIDs were used or not but the idea was that the tracking tech can be used to gain personal power and to transform basically anyone in a Enemy of the State, basically over night. It's pretty relevant to times we're in and if it has an RFID in it I guess it works on this thread as well]

Ilie Pandia
12th December 2013, 21:25
Hi,

I have deleted the last three posts as they were just back and forth about the missing video description. So I've added that myself in the post above.

Also please note that we DO in fact ask our members to provide a description with their videos to help current readers and future readers make sense of what was going on. This is especially useful for when you search the forum and if the video gets removed later on you still have a clue what was all that about.

I also have the feeling that some egos got bruised here and instead of working towards more clarification and collaboration a sort of subtle conflict was fostering. :).

We're on the same team! So please... Let's make peace and get back to topic.

Agape
13th December 2013, 19:38
The RF output from an active (battery powered RF device) could be up to a mile. The battery pack would have to be something the size of your watch, seems to me u are going to notice having a bulge that size somewhere on your body. Why would anybody bother btw unless one needs an ankle bracelet, and that basically is what said RF device would be like.

The Passive "metallic tatoo" can be interrogated by a scanner from about 3 feet away. That is the implant type of chip. The power to read the chip comes from an external high powered transmitter which has to be in close range.

A microwave signal powered chip device can be picked up at a maximum distance of 30 feet with the newest systems. However said systems have to not be next to any absorber materials such as tissue, or water based foods, or metal objects. They cannot be implanted therefore due to the attenuation of a microwave signal by water.

A satellite in low earth orbit may be 100 or so miles up, a geosynchronous satellite is up there at 35,786 km away.

There is no possibility of any such passive device being used to track or control at said distances from satellite.

Any OPTICAL satellite has no front end detector (radio wave detector) on it capable of picking up RF (radio frequency signals) from the gain of the MIRROR, and there is no reason to do such. Nor does such an optical receiver satellite have a billion watt transmitter on it needed to power up a passive RF-ID chip device implanted in or on moist water tissue.

IF there was a billion watt satellite beaming microwave power at you, you wouldn't have to be worried about any RF-ID tags.. think what roasting a chicken would be like in a microwave oven - that's the power level needed at ground level to come out of a satellite to excite a passive RF-ID device and have it's signal picked up by satellite.. It can't happen with any passive technology to be used subversively in the manner suggested.

RFID DISTANCE ref: http://www.rfidjournal.com/faq/show?139
"The distance from which a tag can be read is called its read range. Read range depends on a number of factors, including the frequency of the radio waves uses for tag-reader communication, the size of the tag antenna, the power output of the reader, and whether the tags have a battery to broadcast a signal or gather energy from a reader and merely reflect a weak signal back to the reader. Battery-powered tags typically have a read range of 300 feet (100 meters). These are the kinds of tags used in toll collection systems. High-frequency tags, which are often used in smart cards, have a read range of three feet or less. UHF tags-the kind used on pallets and cases of goods in the supply chain-have a read range of 20 to 30 feet under ideal conditions. If the tags are attached to products with water or metal, the read range can be significantly less. If the size of the UHF antenna is reduced, that will also dramatically reduce the read range."

REF: http://www.skyrfid.com/RFID_Tag_Read_Ranges.php

As far as Wolf tracking devices, these are very different than the implantable chip (which I showed a picture of in an earlier post, the glass encapsulated thing injected under the skin).

Here is a picture below of that - notice the thing around his neck - like the ankle bracelet, this is ACTIVE and battery powered. Active means it transmits a high powered signal that can be picked up at a distance, and ACTIVE devices are needed to achieve distance.

Not something you are going to easily miss wearing, or miss some bulge inside your body, and seeing the antenna sticking out somewhere if that is the case.. :eek:


http://www.oregonwild.org/images/Sophie_B_300.jpg/image_preview



Bob, thank you so much for your up-to-date review of data on the chip technology .

I am sure I have gaps in the understanding of what is available in human technical domain and how it works and I'm trying to learn as fast as time permits .

The problem with what we are really trying to discuss .. and what people fear ..is ..not what is commonly known and available in the public domain , I fear,
but I think what is feared are developments in the backgrounds of military-industrial complex that are always said to be at least '50 years forwards'

and are not announced or claimed in open , for reasons more than obvious .

Much of what we discuss ..and what seems to be out-of-the-reach , is being experimented on, with lesser or greater success in military labs .
Public domain is mostly gifted with inventions once they are known to be commonly accepted knowledge ( and a bit outdated, lets say ) but also ,
easy to manufacture in big numbers .

In the meantime ..and what's leaking out already are chips based on 'quantum electronics' , for example , so tiny that they calculations are performed between individual electrons and memory stored by repositioning of those .

Rare earth elements ( out of access to common manufacturer ) and artificial states of matter are in experiment to build the tiniest, long lasting devices with rare outreach capacity , endurance and memory .

In my best opinion, the 'hunt' ( race ) of next centuries is going to be about precision and isolating individual frequencies that can only communicate with other devices on the same specific frequency , isolated from the frequency 'white noise' and space ('time ) distortions .
What might not be well achievable by using laws of quantum mechanics, could be well enhanced by exploring unique properties of certain elements , yet unexplored, binding forces between them enabling long distance communication ( vis quantum entanglement ) ,
and the whole signal emitter - receiver paradigm well surpassed on that principle alone.

I don't think I'm describing something fictional now though again, forgive my lack of precise terms.

Vis Membrane Optics and Satellite Communication... point taken . I did not mean that the instrument as described by them would be designed as chip tracking device ( and again, we do not speak on the RFID tattoos as proclaimed ) but simply ,

feel free to trust me or not .. places on satellites are sold to host as many experimental devices as can fit in and we do not talk of 'trackable technologies' here but a 'spy satellite' so who on earth can say what it really contains than the agency itself , or rather each of its technical groups holding a piece , a project that is known only to them .

Next question... satellite phones ( prohibited in many countries ) . I confess I should do some reading and not to bother you with ideas ...




Thanks again :angel:

Bob
13th December 2013, 21:01
Thanks Eva for the thoughts about getting to the actual facts.

I find it important to understand if the technology purported to be used in black ops, or spying or control, or manipulation has the capacity to actually do what is claimed in the hype/pr.

If the technology can't do it, it is dreaming or making up "facts" from which there is nothing substantial.

Nothing substantial means, useless hype or disinformation.

To try to find truth means find out how something works, find the kingpin, find the logic then understand how to connect the dots.

Jump on drama, and anything delusional can happen, that is a fact of gossip, water-cooler dialog.

When one sees for oneself the technology, and can connect the dots, RF-IF tags are not something to be feared. They are used for identification of objects, identification of something containing the tag to make it easier to find if a dog is lost, or a parcel has been taken out of a shopping center or warehouse.

RF-identification tags plus a computer memory storage allows for account information to be stored in a small device. Like a coin that stores digital data and is traded.. Gee where have we heard about that before in electronic commerce.

Some bright (satirical here) technologies person at some point, is going to say embed the digital coin chip under the skin on the hand to make it more secure... (dohh)..

No RF-identification chips can transmit in the brain control signals to make you do whatever.

I did point out, an experimental US-ARMY program that I had been made aware of in the late 1960's of a device which operated on magnetic signalling - the chip would emit a chemical drug on command of a magnetic field. Was that a device for mind control, I believe so. Are people being given these things, in the ear, or behind the ear, that I do not know, but the point is, that magnetic technology is in existence I believe, the remote chemical injector. But why would anyone be important enough to think that someone would want to give them such a drug inducing device in their ear?

Tracking systems are possible from local, very local interrogation transmitters that could be on light poles or in places of commerce, like shopping centers. One cannot interrogate an injected RF-ID tag device (as what I had shown in picture form earlier in Flash's thread) from any distance greater than a few inches from the body, meaning a wand-like device would have to be used, just the same way a dog or cat is interrogated for the ID data, owners' name, and so forth..

I trust that helps us all to understand that passive devices, RF-ID's are benign.

Some posters have said the powers that be want to keep track of people, commerce movement of goods and their values.

There are plenty of threads on this Forum and all over the internet. There is no reason to discuss such powers that be reasons for wanting to keep track of things or values in a thread that asks about is there danger to one's person or body by having an RF-ID tag on or near them. There is NO THREAT no worry having a low power technology as such in near body area.

If one has an old US-ARMY magnetically signaled to and controlled drug module in their ear tho... That should be looked at, I would believe, as that though is NOT an RF-ID tag, that is a nasty weapon..

(ED NOTE: - for ease of finding the quote I made in this thread in earlier posts, I will add the links here:)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66184-IMPORTANT-RFID-tatoo-and-whole-walking-body-RFID&p=768574&viewfull=1#post768574

Ref: image of animal under the skin implant - http://chanlo.com/images/rfid-2.jpg

Ref: image of a package "tag" - this would be something that one would have to wear, such as on a plastic pendant, or have inside an ecommerce virtual cash device, or what would exist inside of a passport credit card - http://chanlo.com/images/rfid-4.jpg

Ref: Direct drug delivery implantable device, magnetically steered, here - http://www.mdpi.com/2072-666X/3/4/615/pdf - from the PDF - " Many MEMS devices have been made for biological applications and these devices are known as BioMEMS. BioMEMS devices are sensitive and responsive, allowing accurate control to sense and deliver biomolecules in vitro and in vivo. These devices, such as wirelessly controlled micro-robots which are small enough to be magnetically steered, can penetrate deep within the body and thus potentially function as drug vectors."

ref: Bitcoins are carried in a digital wallet. These wallets can be located on your computer, smart phone, an iPod Touch, or in the cloud. The amount of bitcoin is not restricted by physical size. You can carry thousands of dollars worth of bitcoins onto a plane or dining out without a problem. And they are invisible. A bitcoin placed inside of the RF-ID chip microprocessor storage, would simplify the need to have a full sized computer present with one.

Flash
13th December 2013, 21:41
The way i see it Bob is that the tagging throught RFID is for circulation of goods and persons.

My worry is not much over this, as it is over the habits created. The subtle training. Start with body tatoos, continue with basically harmless RFID chips, which in fact can help local station to tract you as your cell phone actually can (I know, it is not an RFID in cell), and then get the pill in your body, then oh miracle, the same pill can help perceive or treat some ailments, them oh, the same pill is modified to carry chemicals for treatments or other reasons.

All along, people have gotten used to it, and when the one delivering chemicals comes along, no problems, peoples mind will be ready to pop it. Often not even being aware that the technology used has changed.

Training the human mind for the least resistance as possible.

Bob
13th December 2013, 21:49
[...]

My worry is not much over this, as it is over the habits created. The subtle training.

[...]
Training the human mind for the least resistance as possible.

I concur completely - train the people "it's easy" and good to be tracked for whatever "justifier" (you will be safer, never lost, can signal for help in an emergency..) I think for commerce though, secure bit-coin like commerce in the RF-ID chip that may be useful if one has faith in digital money and that whole concept - again for another thread tho..

RunningDeer
13th December 2013, 23:45
RFID Chip Commercial


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Published on Dec 13, 2013
Ask your doctor how to get your chip implanted today.

Flash
15th December 2013, 07:19
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Put the two (or three) together...


[Mod-edit:
The video above is the movie called Enemy of the State (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_State_%28film%29)

It is a movie about the surveillance capabilities in the US and keep in mind that it was done in 1998!! I don't recall if RFIDs were used or not but the idea was that the tracking tech can be used to gain personal power and to transform basically anyone in a Enemy of the State, basically over night. It's pretty relevant to times we're in and if it has an RFID in it I guess it works on this thread as well]

I just took the time to listen to the whole movie, done in 1998 and explaining how NSA works.

I must admit that the movie does fit well with this whole thread, it is in the same line of thinking although not with the same technology. In fact, it is demonstrating beautifully what Edward Snowden has put in every television this last year.

It would have been so easy Amer Zo to just describe it at first, when you posted. It is so easy to put a few words, here or elsewhere, that I don't understand why you do not do it. It would be that much more pleasant and fruitful to everyone. As it surely is for your when we do it.

Bob
17th December 2013, 18:06
Quite possibly Flash, the fear being shown by people is that "the system" is going to covertly control them. People perhaps are going to go hide somewhere where the prying eyes of satellites, or body scanners won't see them.

If the Movie that Zo feels is important for people to watch is to put people more in fear about "them", why drum that in over and over. This has been stated so many times in the Forum, monitoring happens, identification of products and shipment and movement happens.. If one doesn't travel, if one doesn't buy the products one is left being monitored by security cameras using facial recognition.

Don't travel, don't go out, stay underground away from the satellites.

That people have allowed such a system of invasion to happen should be a discussion point. Carmody in another thread has pointed out the psychopath and sociopath, the reason people put fear into others very clearly.

I have pointed out in another thread the abuse of the weaker (in the horse slaughter thread), others have pointed out how abusing children or animals shows again, how people will hurt anything they can so that they remain in control over others, over the environment.

The psychosis and lack of adequately and compassionately addressing aberrant behavior is a if not "THE" problem.

Flash
18th December 2013, 00:58
Quite possibly Flash, the fear being shown by people is that "the system" is going to covertly control them. People perhaps are going to go hide somewhere where the prying eyes of satellites, or body scanners won't see them.

If the Movie that Zo feels is important for people to watch is to put people more in fear about "them", why drum that in over and over. This has been stated so many times in the Forum, monitoring happens, identification of products and shipment and movement happens.. If one doesn't travel, if one doesn't buy the products one is left being monitored by security cameras using facial recognition.

Don't travel, don't go out, stay underground away from the satellites.

That people have allowed such a system of invasion to happen should be a discussion point. Carmody in another thread has pointed out the psychopath and sociopath, the reason people put fear into others very clearly.

I have pointed out in another thread the abuse of the weaker (in the horse slaughter thread), others have pointed out how abusing children or animals shows again, how people will hurt anything they can so that they remain in control over others, over the environment.

The psychosis and lack of adequately and compassionately addressing aberrant behavior is a if not "THE" problem.

Your last sentence is quite right, not addressing aberant behavior is THE problem.

However, there is a fine line between fear instilling and information gathering or giving. in this society, if you do not have a bit of fear in movies for the thrill if produces ( a definite Reptilian trait, liking the fear hormones), your movie does not sell. We are THAT twarted.

Starting with the above premise, you can start taking anything as an information gathering potential. Most movies will give you some information, and some movies are better than others in doing so. I do think that the movie suggested by AmerZo was in the latter category, lots of information gatheting, and some fear for those who want to hide.

I already knew about satellites reading license plates on the ground. No surprise there. Same for picking up sounds in a targetted area. You know, MKUltra and other CIA research were made in my city, and CIA was sued for this. In Montréal, some of us have met their victims and the absolute nightmare they have been through, in the fifties and sixties. Imagine where it is at now. Same with spiying technologies. Now, whom you spy for what is another story.

To me, the abuse through electronic means is quite feasible (I have been surrounded as well with rocket scientists and micro waves engineers reasearchers and other engineers for a good part of my adult life, I heard of the potentials), we have to know what is happening without the fear content, just for knowing what to confront. And this ties quite well with the rest of your post, namely


That people have allowed such a system of invasion to happen should be a discussion point. Carmody in another thread has pointed out the psychopath and sociopath, the reason people put fear into others very clearly.

I have pointed out in another thread the abuse of the weaker (in the horse slaughter thread), others have pointed out how abusing children or animals shows again, how people will hurt anything they can so that they remain in control over others, over the environment.

The psychosis and lack of adequately and compassionately addressing aberrant behavior is a if not "THE" problem.

Bob
18th December 2013, 05:10
It is the connecting of dots.

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It is the connecting of dots.

So I have pointed this out a few times, and each time, it has been ignored, or pushed to the bottom of the pile.. If we had countermeasures to all of that would people use it?

toad
18th December 2013, 10:14
I do think Toad that you have not read the whole thread. Bobd describes very well what this is and the différences between and authentifier and a real tagging. He describes further how it can evolve as well.

The problem stems in the probable evolution of it. Get use to tatoo, as our children and sometimes ourselves have been, then get use to an authentifier on the body and in the body, while your phone could very well make it, for no reason get this (a medical thing is something different), then get used of being an ambulant GPS, handy, then why not having all your informations in you for banking, or as they are implementing in Canada right now, your entire medical file in a RF, then just swallow the thing, why not, everyone having the machine to read it will be able to "help you" or to "bank you". And being trained, we will just stupidly do it.

After that, make the ocmmunication both way, so that we can send you signal within you body.

I do not give it more than 5 years if we do not resist from the start.

In 1987, a clairvoyant friend of mine, now deceased, had told me that the trouble would start with the chips in our banking and credit cards. To watch from that time, it will unfold almost flawlessly, to be careful. Europe and Canada have had those cards for may years now. Only the US has resisted.

I went to the hospital one day, and they wanted me to sign a paper where I accepted to release all of my medical file and all of my blood test past and future to the university trying to implement automatic recognition (authentification) to take appointments so that they would save jobs costs. They were also asking our full both hands print, in the software. The waiting room had about 100 patients. I was the only one to refuse and I was looked upon as a weirdo by others. The clerk told me if I did not sign this, I would not be able to have appointments with my doctor. I made a fuss telling them "what, you are refusing medical care because I won't sign for a research" to which a soemone in whilte lab coat answered, "no no, madame, you will be able to see your doctor" and made me go aside and use my hospital card.

This is what I mean as training us. It will be province wide soon. And people do sign the right to their body away.


But how is that not different then most technology, technology progresses, and naturally certain aspects of our society are going to try and benefit and streamline things, this is important for things like security, and also in healthcare. I do however agree with what you're saying, but its important not to just lump technologies all together, and assume its all bad. Like for instance the videos pertaining to this subject, all have 'Mark of the beast' and various other things that put preconceptions in our minds before we even have a chance to inform ourselves of what it is, this is no different then the mainstream media, we can do better than this. Just because something involves a RFID doesnt mean it is all of a sudden bad, and most paranoia regarding RFID tech can be said the same for cellphones. Its just misleading to say things like 'This will make your whole body a chip', when that just isnt true. You can read RFID, so anyone could see what is going on, not to mention the one example given here, only lasts one day, and it could be very beneficial to patients with Alzheimer's or various other things which can cause all sorts of problems when they forget there meds, or double dose ..etc. I know I probably come off as a shill, and someone who doesnt understand or is just being skeptical for no reason. I just find it important to make solid conclusions and observations, and not to jump quickly to assumptions and panic over new proposed patents. Big companies troll patents professionally, and they will patent any idea that comes to mind regardless if they have no idea how to implement or even make it work.

chocolate
18th December 2013, 10:20
Hi Bobd, I was waiting for that question and am grateful you posted it.
In my opinion very little people ACTUALLY understand what has been presented to them. In my experience most of us have stopped using our senses and all our power and knowledge. I read the whole thread, and it has evolved a lot, but let me express my first thought while reading the title.

1. Tattoos. !?

I wonder how many tattoo wearers actually realize the significance of having a permanent 'tat' on their bodies. In ancient times when people were much more aware of the subtlety of life graphic images, symbols, sculptures are believed to carry spiritual meaning. One of the reasons for the Egyptian/Greek/etc. wall decoration. It has been believed that the image has its own life force, resonant power and that it affects its surroundings. In our case here- the tattoo wearer. In ancient times permanent tattoos have been used to heal and to empower. And have been done by powerful 'spiritual' people. Everything that one touches becomes a part of him- food, materials, ideas, etc. I wonder if those who have tattoos knew that. So now what do we have- unaware people walking around wearing 'meaningful' symbols on their bodies, even before DARPA's input.
That is already huge in itself.

I am not going to go any further although I can go on for quite some time on the various issues and in the various aspects of this.

But to answer your question Bobd, I think people CHOOSE not to understand, because of lack of self awareness or self worth; because of lack of interest; because it's 'modern', because its is easier, because everyone does it, and for many other reasons.
That is why we are where we are right now. And WE MADE IT happen with every choice we made, we make and we will ever make. We made it possible for anyone to control and manipulate us, there is no one else to blame.
It is a choice. It always has been, and it always will be.

For some the information and the realization will be important, and will guide their choices.

This shouldn't stop one from shining light on things, though.
Thank you for your in depth explanation, it was helpful for the non-technical geek like me.

Bob
18th December 2013, 19:05
Brilliant Chocolate !

Clarity comes from understanding - those who don't want clarity will muddle up, they always have, always will, I believe.

Technology is easy for me because I clear up any concepts I don't understand. Like folks may want to do crossword puzzles, or play games that have something hidden in them, I find the universe has enough in it to discover, find out why it is put together in a certain way, find out what it does if something is worked with, and thereby learn to appreciate what the universe offers.

Lower order tech, like man made technology is amusing.. Finding the logic behind the makers tells me a lot of the mindset where they will go. Logical outcome in other words.

Analyzing the environment, one can find where it can go.

Analyzing the human mindset how it applies technology shows were it is headed.

Watch someone try to muddle it it, and you and I can see clearly the objective of the muddling even if the muddler can't. When the muddler does know what they are doing, then we see something else - actions or inactions speak clearly. If society contains steps to build allies, come to terms with the environment the flora and fauna and share ethics mutually and without hypocrisy I have found there is never any barrier in finding out the hidden puzzles' answers and understanding how to work with it.

So, my question again stands with some refinement now, if we have countermeasures to anything that is bothering us from proceeding to evolve to grow and understand how compassionate co-existence will we use such, seek such out and apply such to the betterment of self, one's family, groups, and earthkind? I think what we are seeing happening with all these different challenges is it is a test with the materials at hand, to help us understand what is the right way to evolve personally and as a society..

sheme
1st January 2014, 14:20
Get everyone the "mark" then one day they disenfranchise those Marks that do not conform to the master plan, How do they live how do they work/trade- it is all in the Bible- they don't.

Hazel
1st January 2014, 14:45
On a slightly wry note:

Doesn't this mean such pill "switches" could be secreted in cereal boxes, tinned food, etc...

:evil:

Dennis Leahy
12th January 2014, 01:01
This is not exactly the same article, or same technology...but was close enough to Flash's thread that I figured it belongs in this thread (rather than starting a new one.)

The article: Motorola patents e-tattoo that can read your thoughts by listening to unvocalized words in your throat (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/171992-motorola-patents-e-tattoo-that-can-read-your-thoughts-by-listening-to-unvocalized-words-in-your-throat)


Talk about creepy! Hey, you don't even have to say "creepy", you can just think it!

Dennis

Flash
12th January 2014, 01:36
This is not exactly the same article, or same technology...but was close enough to Flash's thread that I figured it belongs in this thread (rather than starting a new one.)

The article: Motorola patents e-tattoo that can read your thoughts by listening to unvocalized words in your throat (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/171992-motorola-patents-e-tattoo-that-can-read-your-thoughts-by-listening-to-unvocalized-words-in-your-throat)


Talk about creepy! Hey, you don't even have to say "creepy", you can just think it!

Dennis

This is entirely going with this thread Dennis, this is the follow up. Do not scare the crowd by having them accept an identification tatoo, then slide in the "thought reading" by listening to the vocal cords. Then have some tech send the message they want you to believe you thought.

In fact, non provable, yes arguable, a belief that could slide in the gossip attitude and unintelligent spreading of untruth, but nevertheless my belief:

they already have much more than this technology and already are controlling some of our thinking process, as the masses are concerned, and for some specific individuals, they will do it with precision.

However, to be within universal law Framework and within the full usage of human capacities for the benefit of a limited few, they somehow have to have our conscious agreement. Without this, their tech is not fully efficient.

So lets agree with ID tatoos, then with local thought reading, then with sending you thoughts for faster Learning purpose (may start with Learning languages), then full control.

Paranoid thinking but who knows.

Flash
13th January 2014, 02:19
Duplicate post because I think it is very important


Here a video posted by Limor on Simon Parkes thread

I do think it fits very well this thread and mine on the same topic as well.

This is, within 15 minutes of pure delight, the video is very well made, the exact thought I had when talking of chipping people. The nightmare it could slowly turn into and to which we are slowly, like frogs in boiling water, getting accustumed to.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67311-Will-You-Spit-or-Swallow&p=783703&viewfull=1#post783703



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzryBRPwsog

giovonni
13th January 2014, 02:30
:bump: My Ms. Flash ...

A congrats on being a very persistent Avalonian ... ;)

Likewise ~ Gio

onawah
22nd April 2022, 04:03
I'm reviving this thread which started in 2013, because that was quite a while ago, yet here we are still talking about RFID chipping.
I was really hoping that the fears of many outspoken Christians who associate the Book of Revelations and the "Mark of the Beast" with RFID chips and the emerging Surveillance technolog, "Social Credit System, etc. would put a permanent damper on the plan for chipping people.
But obviously not.
I also wonder if the weird photos and videos we've been seeing of late of graphene and bits of metal and unidentiable things in jabbed people's blood that seem to be grouping together to form something might actually be an experiment to see if "they" can make some kind of self-assembling chip inside people's bodies.
Might some of that stuff end up in the brain, making the Mark of the Beast that appears in the forehead (as well as the one in the hand)?
There have been some investigations into this kind of speculation here:
https://endtimestruth.com/666-2/barcode-technology-666/
https://endtimestruth.com/666-2/security-permissions-666/
None of which I can decipher, but perhaps some more techie members can.

Meanwhile, there is a new article out from RFK Jr's Children's Health Defense, written by Dr. Mercola as follows.

Microchip Implanted in Your Hand? Why Worry?
By Dr. Joseph Mercola
04/21/22
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/microchip-implanted-hand-cola/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=fc076b92-52ba-437f-afd7-a299e78e4878
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/wp-content/uploads/implanted-microchips-feature-2-800x417.jpg
"An implantable microchip holds your digital identity, health data and finances. The chip is implanted just beneath the skin on the hand, and operates using either near-field communication or radio-frequency identification.

Story at a glance:

Implantable microchips are marketed as the ultimate in convenience, but the goal is to create the Internet of Bodies, described by the World Economic Forum (WEF) as an ecosystem of “an unprecedented number of sensors,” including emotional sensors, “attached to, implanted within, or ingested into human bodies to monitor, analyze and even modify human bodies and behavior.”
Sweden is one of the earliest adopters of implantable microchips.
The chip is implanted just beneath the skin on the hand, and operates using either near-field communication — the same technology used in smartphones — or radio-frequency identification (RFID), which is used in contactless credit cards.
Implanted payment chips are an extension of the Internet of Things; they’re a way of connecting and exchanging data, and the benefits must be weighed against the potential risks.
Countries around the world are now working on a system for a central bank digital currency (CBDC), a fiat currency in digital form that is programmable so that you can spend your money only on certain things or in specific places, as desired by the issuer.
In the end, everything will be connected to a single implantable device that will hold your digital identity, health data and programmable CBDCs.
Your digital identity, in turn, will include everything that can be known about you through surveillance via implanted biosensors, your computer, smartphone, GPS, social media, online searches, purchases and spending habits.
Algorithms will then decide what you can and cannot do based on who you are.

While implantable microchips are marketed as the ultimate in convenience, the goal of this trend goes far beyond allowing you to open doors without keys and buy things without your wallet.

The goal is to create what’s known as the Internet of Bodies, described by the WEF as an ecosystem of “an unprecedented number of sensors,” including emotional sensors, “attached to, implanted within, or ingested into human bodies to monitor, analyze and even modify human bodies and behavior.”

Key words in that sentence that the PR machine skips right over is the stated goal to “modify human bodies and behavior.” And who will be in charge of those modifications?

They don’t say, but we can safely assume that it will be those who have something to gain from the modification of your actions and behaviors.

Sweden paves the way for microchipping

As noted in the 2019 NBC News segment below, Sweden is one of the earliest adopters of implantable microchips.

The chip, about the size of a grain of rice, is implanted just beneath the skin on the hand, and operates using either near-field communication — the same technology used in smartphones — or RFID, which is used in contactless credit cards.

Already, Sweden has become more or less a cashless society. Now, this tiny implant will replace the need for debit and credit cards altogether, as well as identification and keys.

To pay for an item, all you have to do is place your left hand near the contactless card reader, and the payment is registered.

An estimated 5,000 to 10,000 Swedes have been chipped so far, although Swedish authorities claim they don’t know the exact number, as there’s no central registry.

At present, it’s claimed that the chips cannot be tracked, but that doesn’t mean they’ll remain untrackable in the future.

And, while these early microchips contain only limited amounts of information, we know the WEF dreams of implementing a global digital identification system that would include everything imaginable about you, from your online search history and medical information to your personal banking data, social credit score and more.

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Humans are becoming hackable

As noted by financial technology expert Theodora Lau, implanted payment chips are “an extension of the Internet of Things;” they’re a way of connecting and exchanging data, and the benefits must be weighed against the potential risks.

This is particularly true if and when more personal information begins to be migrated into them, leaving you vulnerable to hackers and surveillance. She told BBC News:

“How much are we willing to pay, for the sake of convenience? Where do we draw the line when it comes to privacy and security? Who will be protecting the critical infrastructure, and the humans that are part of it?”

A PBS NewsHour segment from 2019 also reviews some of the concerns surrounding implantable microchips.

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Importantly, just about any smartphone can read the chip with the proper scanner installed, and “anybody would be able to hack it,” according to Dr. Geoff Watson, a consultant anesthetist who has teamed up with the chip’s inventor “to ensure the implant procedure is carried out to a medical standard.”

While many say they have no privacy fears around the current microchips, it’s reasonable to suspect that privacy concerns will rise in tandem with the amount of personal information held on the chips, and with the number of people who have the implants.

Credit card theft was rare in the beginning and typically involved physical loss of the card. Today, you can’t seem to keep a credit card for more than a handful of years before it’s somehow stolen even though the card is still in your possession.

Identity theft is also rampant, and getting worse by the day, as millions of illegals in need of new identities flood across the southern border of the United States.

As noted by the Center for Immigration Studies, illegal immigrants are not “undocumented,” as most will obtain fraudulent documents through identity theft.

In other words, they’re stealing the legal identities of Americans. In 2020, the total cost for identity theft and identity fraud was $56 billion — the highest in recorded history — and affected 39 million Americans.

There’s no reason to believe theft and fraud won’t happen as microchipping becomes more commonplace.

And that risk is in addition to the risks involved with the government spying on and controlling both your behavior and spending, once the microchips are connected to your personal finances and programmable digital currencies.

In a November 2019 interview with CNN, history professor and adviser to WEF founder Klaus Schwab, Yuval Noah Harari, warned that “humans are now hackable animals,” meaning, the technology exists by which a company or government can know you better than you know yourself, and that can be very dangerous if misused.

He predicted that algorithms will increasingly be used to make decisions that historically have been made by humans, either yourself or someone else, including whether or not you’ll be hired for a particular job, whether you’ll be granted a loan, what scholastic curriculum you will follow and even who you will marry.

The plan to control the ‘useless masses’

In another interview, Harari discussed what Schwab refers to as the Fourth Industrial Revolution (read: transhumanism), noting that we’re now learning to “produce bodies and minds” (meaning augmented bodies, and cloud and artificial intelligence-connected minds) and that one of the greatest challenges we face will be what to do with all the people that have become obsolete in the process.

How will unaugmented people find meaning in life when they’re basically “useless, meaningless”? How will they spend their time when there’s no work, no opportunity to move up in some kind of profession?

His guess is that the answer will be “a combination of drugs and computer games.” I’ll let you decide if that’s a vision of utopia or hell on earth.

Nothing will be private — not even your bodily functions

The WEF’s plan for the Internet of Bodies even includes biosensors that measure and monitor your biological functioning and emotional states.

Already, the Pentagon and Profusa Inc. have collaborated on the development of a tiny implantable biosensor that detects disease by tracking chemical reactions inside your body.

For example, it would be able to determine whether you’ve been infected with a virus such as SARS-CoV-2 or influenza long before any symptoms emerge. As explained by Defense One, the biosensor consists of two parts:

“One is a 3mm string of hydrogel, a material whose network of polymer chains is used in some contact lenses and other implants. Inserted under the skin with a syringe, the string includes a specially engineered molecule that sends a fluorescent signal outside of the body when the body begins to fight an infection.

“The other part is an electronic component attached to the skin. It sends light through the skin, detects the fluorescent signal and generates another signal that the wearer can send to a doctor, website, etc. It’s like a blood lab on the skin that can pick up the body’s response to illness before the presence of other symptoms, like coughing.”

Now, the sensor allows a person’s biology to be examined at a distance via smartphone connectivity, and Profusa is backed by Google, the largest data mining company in the world.

Knowing that, it’s hard to imagine that your biological data won’t be used to boost Google’s profits and increase government control.

While Profusa was expecting to receive approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in 2021, it doesn’t appear to have been approved yet.Other monitoring and tracking devices in the pipeline

Another invention that stands poised to track your health is biocompatible near-infrared quantum dot microneedle arrays.

As explained in a 2019 Science Translational Medicine article, this novel vaccine delivery system is able to “deliver patterns of near-infrared light-emitting microparticles to the skin” that can then be “imaged using modified smartphones.”

In short, it would serve as an invisible tattoo of your vaccination record.

Bill Gates has also funded the development of a birth control microchip that can be turned on and off by remote control. The National Post writes:

“The birth control microchip … would hold nearly two decades worth of a hormone commonly used in contraceptives and dispense 30 micrograms a day … The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has given more than $4.5 million to MicroCHIPS, Inc., to ‘develop personal system that enables women to regulate their fertility’ …”

In November 2019, Daré Bioscience, a San Diego-based biopharma company, announced it had reached an agreement to acquire MicroCHIPS Biotech and would be adding the birth control microchip to its portfolio.

Interestingly, back in 2014, MicroCHIPS appeared confident it would be able to get the product to market in 2018, but as of 2022, it’s still in development.

Programmable digital currencies are next

Countries around the world are now working on a system for a CBDC, a fiat currency in digital form that is programmable so that you can spend your money on only certain things or in specific places, as desired by the issuer.

In the video below, WhatsHerFace comments on Canada’s 2021 announcement of its plan for a CBDC that will be universally accessible, even if you don’t have a bank account or a cell phone.

What kind of device might fulfill that? An implanted microchip, of course, that has your digital identity and digital wallet on it.

In 2007, American businessman and film producer Aaron Russo told “Infowars” that the goal of the New World Order was to create “a one-world government, where everybody has an RFID chip implanted in them, and all money is to be in those chips.”

“There will be no more cash, and this [information] was given to me straight from Rockefeller himself,” Russo said. “So, they can take out any money they want, any time they want. They say, ‘You owe us this much in taxes,’ and they just take it out of your chip. Total control. And … if you’re protesting against what they’re doing, they’ll turn off your chip and you have nothing … It’s total control of the people.”

Fast-forward to April, and Canada is now permanently enshrining its government-imposed sanctions against protesters in its new budget.

As you may recall, the Canadian government shut down the bank accounts of participants in the trucker protest against vaccine mandates, and even those who donated as little as $25 to the protest.

Crowdfunding platforms will now be more tightly regulated, and the government is also launching a legislative review of cryptocurrencies. Just imagine the control the Canadian government would have had with a programmable CBDC.

The government could have prevented the donations from occurring at all, and shut down the account of anyone who even tried to give a few dollars to the freedom movement.

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A carefully crafted plan for world domination

All of this is happening at the same time that the World Health Organization, another deep state technocrat stronghold, is building a global vaccine passport system.

Once CBDCs and a global vaccine passport system are up and running, it won’t be long before they’re combined into one — likely in the form of an implantable microchip.

We can predict this because they’ve told us that this is the plan. Just look through the WEF’s website descriptions of The Great Reset and the Fourth Industrial Revolution.

Read the Rockefeller Foundation’s April 2020 white paper, “National COVID-19 Testing Action Plan — Strategic Steps to Reopen Our Workplaces and Our Communities,” which spells out the direction of social control through the implementation of permanent COVID-19 tracking and tracing measures.

Look into the ID2020 Alliance, a public-private partnership founded by Bill Gates’ Gavi, The Vaccine Alliance, The Rockefeller Foundation, Microsoft, Accenture and Ideo.org.

Members in the alliance include the Learning Economy Foundation, founded by the United Nations in 2018, Facebook, Mastercard, ShareRing, Simprints and others.

ID2020 began as a digital identity program for Bangladesh, and has since expanded to include “the implementation of digital technologies which tie with the [Learning Economy] Foundation’s vision of a world in which learners can map their educational progress to achieve their academic, employment and life goals.”

In the end, everything will be connected to a single implantable device.

Right now, it’s a toss-up as to whether a vaccine passport or a digital identity platform will be the foundation for what’s to come, but what is certain is that whatever it’s called, it will include your digital identity, vaccination status and other health data and programmable CBDCs.

Your digital identity, in turn, will include everything else that can be known about you through surveillance via implanted biosensors, your computer, smartphone, GPS, social media, online searches, purchases and spending habits.

Imagine having an AI listening, watching and scoring every move you make and every heartbeat, and algorithms deciding what you can and cannot do based on your behavior, expression, social contacts and personal views.

Add to that technologies that can modify your behavior and emotional state with or without your knowledge, which is what the WEF’s 2020 briefing document on the Internet of Bodies describes. It may sound like science fiction, but this is what they intend to do.

Every new technology, every new surveillance opportunity they bring forward is to further this aim.

For decades, we’ve embraced technologies with our mind set on convenience and/or safety. That’s always how they rope us in.

But we will lose everything worth living for if we continue down this path without foolproof privacy safeguards and personal autonomy rights in place."

Originally published by Mercola. (It's behind the paywall on Dr. Mercola's site, but he has been collaborating with RFK Jr., thankfully.

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