YOU WILL DIE and EVERYTHING will kill you !

[Bright Garlick]

This post is aimed at those folks who worry about so many things in life.

You WILL die. It is absolutely certain. Everything is impermanent. Your body will die and decay and become dust and everything that you have ever known will be lost or die. That is the only FACT you can be sure of. That is the nature of LIFE.

Do not fret about dying. Enjoy life every single day ! Make that your motto : I live to enjoy ! Even when suffering comes, enjoy that too. Feel everything fully.

Everything comes to pass, so even suffering will come to pass.

Please know that EVERYTHING will KILL you. If you let it. Everything is dangerous - government, food, wi fi, electronics, guns, clothing, paper, drugs, pharmaceuticals, relationships, weather, fun, Pizza, acidic blood, basic blood, cancer, heart disease, laughter, mobile phones, RFD chips spilt milk, grudges, guilt, ignorance, stupidity, cars, roads, tall buildings, weapons of mass and minor destruction, nose picking, masturbation, teenagers, old people, old people who drive slow, anyone who drives fast, flies that go up your nose or lay eggs in your body, religion taken too far, words, sticks and stones, ideas, books, rocks, worry, anxiety, jealousy, sloth, torpor, envy, gossip, altruism for selfish reasons, selfishness, dishonouring yourself, anti depressants, condoms, string, feathers, thorns, fish, nuts, red meat, too much work, any kind of ism or ist, dorkness, attachment to conspiracies, , doing work you hate, hiding your gifts and innate abilities, ignoring teh things that bring you joy, needing people too much, avoiding people, choice, fearing choice, Project Avalon, stopping breathing, breathing to shallow and too fast, forgetting who you are, not knowing who you are, spending too much time in internet forums, being a dickhead, becoming a slave to time, taking yourself TOO seriously, ignoring your own path, being a follower, seeking non stop, insecticides, pesticides, multicide, decide, ignoring what's in front of your nose, YOU, ME, US, THEM and IT.

My only advice to some of you : Relax folks, seize every moment of this precious human life and MAKE IT COUNT ! Life is always perfect, no matter how much we struggle and suffer.

Look below your feet and above your head and praise and give thanks for all that sits between.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8RbXdAy-8Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2VCwBzGdPM

[Tony]

Hello Bright Garlic,
The temporary body in a temporary world WILL die.
The temporary creatures that inhabit our temporary bodies
will have to move on, as we will do.

We have been doing this forever…and still we forget.
That is the size of our problem.


Tony

[Bright Garlick]

Sure is Tony. How easily we have all forgotten !!!

So simple.

[araucaria]

And oxygen is the ultimate poison. We can only take so much of it :)

And heartbeats are killers too: it seems all mammals large and small have the same ration, which makes for longer or shorter lives depending on their heart rate.

The moral of the story is to stick to gentle breathing and a slow heart rate: in other words avoid stress. 'Relax folks' - wise words from Bright Garlick.

[markpierre]

So you'll die and that will be that, except that you'll still be you and wondering WTF?

You have a due date. You won't miss it, and it won't miss you, no matter how far you run to get out of range.
You can pre-empt it if you want to, but the line between cowardice and courage is too fuzzy. I wouldn't go there.

[skippy]

No need to run and hide..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2K_1qvIsFo

[greybeard]

You arrive here with a return ticked--the date is on it.
The question is were were you before you found yourself in a human body and where will you be after you depart?
Some where you never really left I suspect.
Do yourself a favour--go find your Self.

Im in flippant mood--laughing.

Chris

[Johnny]

This post is aimed at those folks who worry about so many things in life.

You WILL die. It is absolutely certain. Everything is impermanent. Your body will die and decay and become dust and everything that you have ever known will be lost or die. That is the only FACT you can be sure of. That is the nature of LIFE.

Have you used the Occam's Razor tool here. (That's another way of asking: "What's most likely?") That is a silly tool to use in this questions. (Not silly to you, but silly to Bill Ryan who has used it in another post)

When I was close to be 17 years old, after leaving the school, I took everything up I have learned, I saw that everything was filtered through my mind, amongst this, that I should die. When I asked myself, about my dying and took the mind away, to my surprise (and confusion) absolutely nothing indicated that I should die. That was a threshold. So who should I believe, myself or what I have been told ?.



Do not fret about dying. Enjoy life every single day ! Make that your motto : I live to enjoy ! Even when suffering comes, enjoy that too. Feel everything fully.

Everything comes to pass, so even suffering will come to pass.

Please know that EVERYTHING will KILL you. If you let it. Everything is dangerous - government, food, wi fi, electronics, guns, clothing, paper, drugs, pharmaceuticals, relationships, weather, fun, Pizza, acidic blood, basic blood, cancer, heart disease, laughter, mobile phones, RFD chips spilt milk, grudges, guilt, ignorance, stupidity, cars, roads, tall buildings, weapons of mass and minor destruction, nose picking, masturbation, teenagers, old people, old people who drive slow, anyone who drives fast, flies that go up your nose or lay eggs in your body, religion taken too far, words, sticks and stones, ideas, books, rocks, worry, anxiety, jealousy, sloth, torpor, envy, gossip, altruism for selfish reasons, selfishness, dishonouring yourself, anti depressants, condoms, string, feathers, thorns, fish, nuts, red meat, too much work, any kind of ism or ist, dorkness, attachment to conspiracies, , doing work you hate, hiding your gifts and innate abilities, ignoring teh things that bring you joy, needing people too much, avoiding people, choice, fearing choice, Project Avalon, stopping breathing, breathing to shallow and too fast, forgetting who you are, not knowing who you are, spending too much time in internet forums, being a dickhead, becoming a slave to time, taking yourself TOO seriously, ignoring your own path, being a follower, seeking non stop, insecticides, pesticides, multicide, decide, ignoring what's in front of your nose, YOU, ME, US, THEM and IT.

Now THAT was a brainstorming (and a good one) But are you trying to scare us, to go from survival mode to living mode ? :)



My only advice to some of you : Relax folks, seize every moment of this precious human life and MAKE IT COUNT ! Life is always perfect, no matter how much we struggle and suffer.



Here is my advice: Investigate the concept explanation. Do you remember something like "Young man/lady, I really hope you have a god explanation" It gave us the impression that if we had a good explanation we where on 'safe ground'. What did that do to us. Do you remember the body feeling, like there was a hole in the belly region. Later on: I don't want to hear all your stupid excuses (man, I remember have disappointed I was) But at that time the harm had been done, from that time IMO, we slowly started to go from living mode to survival mode, and become experts in collecting of 'good explanations'
There is nothing wrong with explanations, but if we only collect/construct consciously or unconsciously explanations for being on 'safe ground' it has to be stopped. It really takes much energy to be in survival mode.



Look below your feet and above your head and praise and give thanks for all that sits between.


AMEN to that, and thank you Bright Garlick.

Johnny

[Johnny]

You arrive here with a return ticked--the date is on it.



Hello Greybeard.
Nah,,, Where do you have that from ??? :)



The question is were were you before you found yourself in a human body and where will you be after you depart?
Some where you never really left I suspect.


You will found out of that, when you find out where you are. And don't look at my avartar, that is a joke :)



Do yourself a favour--go find your Self.



Good advice to everybody !



Im in flippant mood--laughing.



Ditto here :)

Johnny

[spiritguide]

Material existence is a pre requisite for death as we understand it. (decay into the micro composition of the universe) Spiritually our entities exist eternally and universally forever. Incarnation into this dimension is like getting on a ride at an amusement park when it is over we can get another ticket to ride again if we so choose. All the ups, downs and curves are experienced and knowledge of the path is retained during the ride. Fasten your belts and enjoy!

Peace!

[greybeard]

You arrive here with a return ticked--the date is on it.



Hello Greybeard.
Nah,,, Where do you have that from ??? :)



The question is were were you before you found yourself in a human body and where will you be after you depart?
Some where you never really left I suspect.


You will found out of that, when you find out where you are. And don't look at my avartar, that is a joke :)



Do yourself a favour--go find your Self.



Good advice to everybody !



Im in flippant mood--laughing.



Ditto here :)

Johnny

Hi Johhny
Re the date of return being determined at the moment of birth.
I have read that in several places.
In particular the late Dr David Hawkins author of Power vs Force
http://veritaspub.com/about_us.php?osCsid=d65b392d8ebfc43dc7ff95df8117d167

He confirmed his "knowing" using muscle testing Kinesology

Chris

[gripreaper]

What about the immortal Babaji? He lives in the high Himalaya’s of Tibet and has been here since the beginning, and is said to have never died. Yeshua taught us that death is an illusion, that the soul is immortal and has always been and always will be and that we choose to die because we collectively agree to do so.

So, I postulate, that no one has to die, that we can live forever if we believe we can. The reason we die, is because we believe that is “just the way that it is” based on evidence presented to us daily, and our programming to believe it. Death is not an absolute fact, only that we have chosen the reincarnational cycle at this density, the forgetfulness and the polarization of opposites in duality, just for fun.

So, is every life precious? What is “it”? the body, the soul, or the mind that is precious, or is it all three? How many of us are precious, all of us, all alleged seven billion of us? Isn’t that too many for this planet to sustain? Are we not a cancer upon the host we call earth, causing our own extinction? Why is the instinct to survive at all costs so strong? Why does this instinct override all reason, and all temperament? Why is mankind the only species which is out of balance with nature, the only species which manipulates, exploits, and consumes life force from others of its kind, vamping life force for its own hedonistic aggrandizement?

There is definitely a fascination with the human genome on planet earth, and it is historically referenced by many cultures that the genome has been messed with many times, and this is the reason we are out of balance with nature. Why are Avalonian’s inherently more intelligent than the general population, with over 80% struggling to survive in mundane abject poverty, an existence of squalor, while we sit here as an elite group of intelligent souls contemplating the existential nature of existence?

We scoff at the elite for manipulating the genome, for using nefarious methods to exterminate sectors of humanity, while it appears that is the last thing they really want to do, having “allowed” the population to double from 3.5 billion to over 7 billion in the last 50 to 60 years. That seems unheard of at any time in the history on this planet. What makes more sense is that they want as many people as possible because the “value” of these people’s life force accentuates their ability to vamp that energy and aggrandize themselves to higher possibilities.

Religion tells us “to go forth and multiply and subdue the earth” and we procreate like rabbits and there is very little discussion about population control. On the contrary, we bring to trial those who kill others, and incarcerate them until they die so that they cannot kill anyone else. We claim to “cherish” human life at all costs, honoring it and husbanding it because it is sacred.

Yet, we are cataloged, our DNA put into data banks, certified and listed as “chattel” (cattle) with the department of agriculture, sold as a commodity on the stock exchange through the birth certificate bond, our account accessed through commerce every time we step out of line from working and producing, and fostering the vamping of energy which flows upstream to an elite class of inhuman interlopers who have messed with the genome for thousands of years.

They ritualistically use our energy as a commodity for their own personal aggrandizement, just like we use toilet paper as a commodity. No different. These rituals include satanic human sacrifice, sexual rituals, exploitation of this commodity at every level and every way possible, with all manner of perverse energetic vampirism. All of us vamp energy from others to a certain degree.

So, how much is a human life worth? How much is human life force worth? Who gets to decide? Is life just a passing roller coaster ride we chose to take from a soul level, full well knowing that we would be exploited and we agreed to this exploitation because we could learn something from it which would thus expand our awareness and grow our souls through this human experience?

Isn’t earth the "grand experiment” in the entire cosmos, where the development of humans to such a density has never been tried before, and holding the fullness of life force in a body takes many incarnations at every level of the energetic spectrum to accomplish the collective dream we all had of holding the fullness of spirit at this density? We all agreed to experience the extreme polarized states of abject horror as well as ecstatic bliss in order to fulfill this collective dream we “knew” we would one day wake up from and say to each other… Boy that was sure one hell of a ride, you guys want to do that again?

This post is getting long, and I have probably lost most who will not read this far, but anyone on this planet can now read this. I am fully exposed to everyone (who has access to the internet) all over the world, as well as I have access to read and gain understanding and perspective from all others out there on planet earth who also have access to the internet. That’s a couple billion of us in the last 25 years, even though there is a substantial amount of humans who do not.

That in itself is a gargantuan existential change in consciousness and the ability of each of us to contemplate our existence and actually take a role in how it might look. That is different than the last several thousand years where the truths and the history and the deeper esoteric knowledge and the Gnostic knowledge were held covertly by just a few hundred on this planet. Why is this huge shift in knowledge happening and why are you and I able to sit here and contemplate these existential questions and seek answers from others all around the world?

Why are the most intelligent able to rise to the occasion and why are the elite allowing this phenomenon to occur after thousands of years of secrecy? Something is up. But it seems I still have more questions than answers, and who really wants to read my musings anyway?

[Johnny]

Hi Johhny
Re the date of return being determined at the moment of birth.
I have read that in several places.
In particular the late Dr David Hawkins author of Power vs Force
http://veritaspub.com/about_us.php?osCsid=d65b392d8ebfc43dc7ff95df8117d167

He confirmed his "knowing" using muscle testing Kinesology

Chris

Hi Chris.

Thanks for the link, I have never heard about that man before. He is not translated to danish as far as I could Google, but there is a lots of YouTube's on the net, very inspiring to listen to, despite I have no religion.

Q: Why have you no religion ?
A: I have never learned it.
Q: Have nobody never told you about religion ?.
A: Oh yes, I've been told a lot about it, but I didn't no that it was the same as learning.
Q: What will you then define as learning ?.
A: Uhh.., I have learned to ride a bicycle, I have learned to think out of the box, I have learned to travel in other realms/dimensions, all that kind of stuff.
Q: HMMM ....

Have a nice evening.

Johnny

[Johnny]

What about the immortal Babaji? He lives in the high Himalaya’s of Tibet and has been here since the beginning, and is said to have never died. Yeshua taught us that death is an illusion, that the soul is immortal and has always been and always will be and that we choose to die because we collectively agree to do so.



Never heard of him.





and who really wants to read my musings anyway?

I do, I'm still here :) good points !

It seems as the elite has overlooked something: the mass consciousness. I'm not quite sure have to define the work of this, but I know it is.

Johnny

[greybeard]

Babaji The deathless Saint is mentioned in "Auto-biography of a Yogi" by Yogananda.
Some amazing stories about him and others in the book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji

I enjoy your posts gripreaper--sometimes they are so complete they don't require a response.

The elite are all to aware of the risk, to them, of a rising collective consciousness.
They have provided all kinds of distractions to prevent people finding/exploring their own Divinity.

Who would want to live for ever in the same ageing body or even not ageing body.
Other realms, other adventures await the dropping of the mortal coil.
We are timeless--eternal, beyond description in our True nature.

Chris

[Johnny]

Babaji The deathless Saint is mentioned in "Auto-biography of a Yogi" by Yogananda.
Some amazing stories about him and others in the book.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahavatar_Babaji



Thank you again Chris. I think I have that book in the basement, if not, I have to buy it again. It must have been 45 years since I have read it. Sitting here now, I only recall the picture of Yogananda.




The elite are all to aware of the risk, to them, of a rising collective consciousness.
They have provided all kinds of distractions to prevent people finding/exploring their own Divinity.



Yes, and I have to admit, I have enjoyed many of them :)




Who would want to live for ever in the same ageing body or even not ageing body.
Other realms, other adventures await the dropping of the mortal coil.
We are timeless--eternal, beyond description in our True nature.

Chris

Who says forever ? :)

IMO -- While we are here in what we call the 3. dimension, we can travel to wherever we want, either by our light-body and consciousness or only by our consciousness and return to the body in blood and flesh. And wherever we are, we are able to make it as real as here. When we are 'death' we can only use our light-body and consciousness and in that way easily get lost when traveling. If we only travel by our consciousness, we will not experience but 'only' observe.

That is how I see it right now. If anybody has something to add or subtract, you are very welcome.

Johnny

[skippy]

so let's start to clean up some mess.. :)

http://www.neuralnetworkingtrends.org/blog/Large/XIII.jpg

[Delight]

So, I postulate, that no one has to die, that we can live forever if we believe we can. The reason we die, is because we believe that is “just the way that it is” based on evidence presented to us daily, and our programming to believe it. Death is not an absolute fact, only that we have chosen the reincarnational cycle at this density, the forgetfulness and the polarization of opposites in duality, just for fun.

So, is every life precious? What is “it”? the body, the soul, or the mind that is precious, or is it all three? How many of us are precious, all of us, all alleged seven billion of us? Isn’t that too many for this planet to sustain? Are we not a cancer upon the host we call earth, causing our own extinction? Why is the instinct to survive at all costs so strong? Why does this instinct override all reason, and all temperament? Why is mankind the only species which is out of balance with nature, the only species which manipulates, exploits, and consumes life force from others of its kind, vamping life force for its own hedonistic aggrandizement?.......

......Why are the most intelligent able to rise to the occasion and why are the elite allowing this phenomenon to occur after thousands of years of secrecy? Something is up. But it seems I still have more questions than answers, and who really wants to read my musings anyway?

Don't you like reading your own musings? At the end of the sentence, we all hopefully like what we wrote!

I have seen many people die and I see many people who have not died yet. I believe I did not die yet. The prospect of dying does not feel frighten (yet?)

I used to be very frightened of my own nature. What I had observed was influenced by "facts". "Knowledge" about humans was accepted. I did not look at myself because I was secretly afraid to see all that ugly I heard was "me". The attributes are including those you posted that I highlighted.

With this "mind set", I suspect we subconsciously will agree to die after we breed and "contribute" and try to "get better". Who feeling love would continue forever as a creep?

DO YOU want to be immortal as THAT KIND of person? It's a belief system certainly.

My take is that we voluntarily self destruct after running the conceptually agreed marathon. One DOES NOT have the ooomph to go immortal when observing one self to be a piece of trash. The runners must become lamer and lamer and fall out.

The very fact that people still question and qualify our attributes half heartedly (as gripreaper above and so so so many others) means to me that "mortality" (to get out of the way of a hopefully "better" set of people?) will be the program.

It would be awful to live forever hating what you "are".

Every life must be known to be precious to itself or self destruction is next IMO. But that's just me.

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[Davidallany]

Is it fun to go through learning as a child over and over? wouldn't it be more effecient to carry on learning in a single continous life for those who are willing to learn?

[greybeard]

A true story.
I will keep it short.

At one time I had a Residential home for the elderly.
This lady booked in for a fortnight respite care--not that she needed caring really.
She was fit and went down town shopping for gifts for friends and relatives regularly on her own.
One night I was doing a sleep over and about 2am a member of staff woke me with words "##### has gone"
Half asleep I said " Gone where"
The member of staff said " She has died, she rang for attention to get a cup of tea and a refill for he hot water bottle, when I got back with these she was sitting in her arm chair--dead" We had to put her back in bed.

I delayed calling the relatives, after all she had come in for a break and was perfectly well. Not an easy task for me to break the news.
Eventually I got round to it.

Her son answered the Phone--I said "Not good news Im afraid your Mum has died"
He said "Oh yes she expected to and made funeral arrangements before she came down to you, She did not want to bother us or for a family member to find her dead."
I was gob smacked!!!
She had not told us of of her immanent death of course.
She was not ill--but she just knew it was her time---how she knew only god knows.

Chris

[avid]

I'm happy to die - but not to leave behind my life-goals - to take care of my olde parents. I suspect that is my immediate future, but my health is fading due to total stress due to their illnesses. It's like 'sliding down the razor blade of life' now. Keeping myself going to keep them going. Neither of them wants to live without the other, and if one goes - OMG - many of us are going through/has gone through the same ghastly scenario. However - I KNOW they'll have an afterlife as too many things have happened in my family that could NEVER be coincidences.
I will be happy for them to be at peace. No more worries for them. They'll have left a world which they fought for and promised them freedom, and poisoned them. Injustice.
I know that our environment is killing us all and there's not much we can do about this vile injustice by the corporate profiteers, I just hope that the 'Bill Gates, Rockefellers, Bushes, Rothschilds, Soroses and their vile ilk' don't escape what they've done to this planet.
Yes we'll all die - including the atrocity-makers - what goes around comes around....
Next round - who's in the 'ring'? ;-)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Gosh. Strange thread.


It would be hard to be more negative than post # 1, so my reply is simple.

Enjoy life while also maintaining awareness of your world.

Life and death are words, fixations. We can't always get what we want but we are in it together.

That said, independent thought is healthy.

You don't need aliens to dictate the rules to you to make it sensible or clean.
You need to stand for what you think and attack directly when needed.
Not hide behind metaphors, myths, and passive-aggression.

It's no crime to disagree with any trend that tries to trap the human mind into indifference or despair.

We all exist because someone cared and valued us as individuals and not group worth.

Still not sure w t f this thread is. YouTube doesn't work well on my phone and there are nasa updates to read today.

Carpe diem.

[Tangri]

IMO -- While we are here in what we call the 3. dimension, we can travel to wherever we want, either by our light-body and consciousness or only by our consciousness and return to the body in blood and flesh. And wherever we are, we are able to make it as real as here. When we are 'death' we can only use our light-body and consciousness and in that way easily get lost when traveling. If we only travel by our consciousness, we will not experience but 'only' observe.

That is how I see it right now. If anybody has something to add or subtract, you are very welcome.

Johnny
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Thank You

[Robin]

This is a very good video. It is an episode of the Twilight Zone, but this one has a message of hope and fearlessness when it comes to death. I watched this a long while ago--one of the few episodes I've ever seen--and was deeply moved by the message:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqp7kHlA-fU

[Bright Garlick]

To those who think I am being negative, reread my post. I am encouraging you to embrace life ! I am encouraging you to affirm that LIFE IS GOOD !

I was poking fun at all the fear that permeates the weak human mind.

This is THE BEST OF ALL POSSIBLE WORLDS !

[Bright Garlick]

Just a quick addenum to a previous couple of comments.

Perhaps I ought to have been clearer. Your body will die, your small self will lose it's body. The big self will continue and is deathless. This life as you know it, will come to an end.
So yes, this concept needed reconstructing or perhaps restating.

[mahalall]

Sometimes wonder if viewing impermanence as a flux of change is more helpful, as opposed to the one element death

[Bright Garlick]

I couldn't agree more !

Sometimes wonder if viewing impermanence as a flux of change is more helpful, as opposed to the one element death

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Just a quick addenum to a previous couple of comments.

Perhaps I ought to have been clearer. Your body will die, your small self will lose it's body. The big self will continue and is deathless. This life as you know it, will come to an end.
So yes, this concept needed reconstructing or perhaps restating.

How about changing that to read from the first-person's perspective?

"MY body will die" somehow seems less insulting than running around like a chicken with one's head cut off spouting "YOUR body will die."

This is called "taking ownership" of one's beliefs.

"You", "they", "us", etc. Gets confusing after a while because it seems like there is a division here between the perceived "enlightened" and "unenlightened".

I always thought that enlightenment meant not being hasty, i.e. believing in people and human potential to respond to a crisis.

I've watched sci-fis where bigger thinkers than you or me portrayed an Earth with over 200 billion residents.
Yet no huge crisis other than attitude.

In spite of the 180 from rage to cheerfulness on the part of the OP, I continue to look at these "population reduction as gospel" threads as a gunner watched the silhouette of a running man in the desert...

[araucaria]

An interesting idea currently being explored on the Here and Now thread is that we are already dead. If true, it only gives greater meaning and importance to Brigh'ts message 'Relax folks!'


@araucaria

Thank you so much for "getting" what I was trying to say there.
what we are experiencing right now is the life review, only it is happening on a collective rather than an individual level. Hence we can infer that a mass death event is already behind us


I used my Facebook page to do my personal review...posted some of my college art work, and found people responded by pressing the LIKE button, as if they were surprised that I had such talents in me.

Yet those talents are irrelevant today, ...this is my discovery.
Why am I not painting these days? I have been asked this, over and over.
And my answer is that IT IS ALL OVER..., at least for me it is....
that period of an individuals's discovery of their gifts.
And maybe this is what transiten is also discovering...

What Im perceiving as important now is this...
TEAMS; GROUP identity, collective efforts.
The days of individual stardom are over. Pluto in Leo...
that was the last generation in this lifetime.

In the light of ET making themselves known to us earthlings in our nursery....
We are specks in one huge flock of birds, or leaves of one tree.

[Johnny]

"You", "they", "us", etc. Gets confusing after a while because it seems like there is a division here between the perceived "enlightened" and "unenlightened".



You are absolutely right !




I always thought that enlightenment meant not being hasty, i.e. believing in people and human potential to respond to a crisis.



Enlightenment means enlightenment, no more no less. :)

'It' is completely personally, can't be received from another person, and therefor can't be given to another person IMO.

Johnny

[Shezbeth]

Thank you Bright Garlic for this thread and the ongoing discussion. I suggest that anyone who perceives negativity in the general gist is failing to grasp something. It happens. I agree with the idea that awareness of physical death is a necessary catalyst to fully live. Castaneda describes two types of people.

Those who are immortal - Individuals who, by their lack of impeccability waste time, energy, resources, awareness, etc. due to a lack of perception of the finite nature of the physical form
and
Those who will die - Individuals who accept and acknowledge the limitations and eventual cessation of the body and who therefore seek to refine themselves at every opportunity in an attempt to - if not achieve impeccability - be more impeccable on a case by case basis.

The immortals rarely appreciate being reminded of their foolishness. They would rather try to change you than risk you changing them. :boink:


How about changing that to read from the first-person's perspective?

"MY body will die" somehow seems less insulting than running around like a chicken with one's head cut off spouting "YOUR body will die."

[Delight]

This morning I woke up thinking about why people have a death wish to destroy the whole world?
You say "What death wish?".

Puffed up congratulating Gloat seems directed from those who don't think "they" are contributing to the death march. Those who are seen as at fault get terrible press. But IF we are all here eating the earth up, every morsel adds to the feast. If we blame others, we must die by that same blame. But we seem happy about the situation REALLY.

It's that old friend Thanatos.
I say there must be a major love affair with this character as it seems that people get a consistent thrill about contemplating not a 'personal' death but the whole sale destruction of everything.

More and more rants seem to be written: blame buns sandwiching seeming hopeless resignation. It's death death death coated in rage......

MY rant is the notion that one would rather have everyone die than imagine the world continuing on happily without us.

Sorry to say, not only will we all die, but no one will care after 100 years that we were born.

So I say... this holiday drink a toast to yourself, adore your very superficial existence and all you give merit and value. ONLY your appreciation counts for any of this "life" style you own.

The baby boomers may well succeed in managing the end of all time with the end of us?
It may work out that Thanatos plus Population Swell memes and intention make a stand out death knell for the world???
Take em all down!!

We oldsters after all comprise a swollen wave of conceited jealous grasping for "one's own way" Now at the beginning peak age of our generational expiration here in the US and globally..... maybe the tide of envy for the future will obliterate the planet? C'est la vie in the materialist stream of nihilism....

There are lots of the baby boomers as noted by population births (per thousands). Unless some new humans refuse to entertain the death cult any longer, we may get our death wish. For certain One needs courage to insistently celebrate life when told it is impossible by old and tired experts.

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