Strange illness

[161803398]

A friend of mine asked me to post this to see if anyone has any thoughts about it.

His son, aged 16,...a normal nice iranian/canadian kid with a thyroid issue for which he has had to take medication for years suddenly stopped taking his medication and refused to eat. He also had a small, benign brain tumour which the doctors said was not affecting him although it should be removed at some point. My friend finally got him into the hospital where they got his thyroid levels back up...he was down so low he was almost dead. When he went home he stopped eating and taking his medication again and started putting his fingers in strange positions which positions are apparently impossible to do unless your fingers are broken. He was taken back to the hospital and is now thought to be psychotic although, if you talked to him, he would be perfectly sane. But he is doing crazy things and no one understands why. He is writing "moor" on the walls and will only respond favourably if he is addressed as "moor". One of the less stupid nurses told my friend that she thought "moor" meant the moorish people who had travelled to spain from iran at one point. The doctors at the hospital are completely at a loss to explain what is wrong with this kid and now have to refer the case to one of two specialists in this area in the world.

The reason I am posting this in the ufology section is that prior to this for several years my friend's son had refused to talk about UFOs, saying that he knew what they were, they were not what anyone thought, that he was in communication with them and that we all sounded like idiots when we talked about UFOS. I have put this down to his possible psychosis but my friend says some of the things his son is writing on the walls besides "moor" are too complicated for his son to know about. So he asked me to put this out to see if anyone has any ideas.

My friend's son is awfully wise for a kid his age...he's very good at understanding people, with great insight.

Any thoughts.

[Lifebringer]

Perhaps he's a starseed turned on. He's living in two worlds, and in one the laws of physics doesn't apply. More research and information on what other things written are written on the walls.

Perhaps Drunvalo Melchezedek can help. You can go to his website and pose the question to him. May take a few days, but if you express how concerned you are about it, then perhaps there is a spiritual reasoning behind it.

[Agape]

I had very strange dream which woke me up while ago ..which I attribute to over reaction to amoxicilline and dealing with too many asynchronous issues at the same time .
It was -very weird- experience . A dream within a dream where I was trying to type, talk to friend on computer and then I started to see terrifying insects in the air which I knew were hallucinations but I was losing control and letters on the keyboard appeared in other alphabets , my friend on the other side was waiting .. and I could not deliver the message and knew I need to call for help .
A dream you may say but it strongly reminded me of the episode washed in news recently about Nelson Mandela remembrance ceremony where the sign language interpreter failed to do his job and later reported he had psychotic episode .

I'm empathetic creature . But this freaked me out . Could it be some kind of woodoo .

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My thoughts ...it's impossible to do proper assessment without more information , what else is he saying ?

From what you describe , together with his ancestry, body type , symptoms .. I think he has form of juvenile psychosis that is specific to teenagers and is actually developmental disorder despite the common name .
I think that mechanisms of what they call 'psychosis' are still poorly understood to this day .
Teenage brain keeps evolving its pre-frontal cortex very fast but not always in orderly fashion, coupled with dramatic hormonal changes in organism , some teenagers not only 'feel strange' , they 'think strange' for no apparent reason.

The good news probably is that he is not seriously ill ( disabled for life ) but will recover in matter of months or years. You need to give him the time to evolve . Grow out of it so to say.
His giftedness may well be a contributing factor , both positive and negative. Positive because he will overcome himself and negative giving him hard time to handle it .

The not so good news is that there is actually hardly any treatment . It's probably better for him to be under observation for his safety but it's not great for his overall mentality and future to be treated as 'ill man' though he may probably forget it further on.

There are plenty of teenagers with milder symptoms than his who are in fact passing through similar process and continue with life while covering their 'personal madness' with handkerchief . So to say. Speaking to other parents with seemingly 'normal' kids would help the parents to understand .

Wishing him speedy recovery


:angel:

[161803398]

well I dont know much about the "moor" business which is new and Ill have to wait to talk to my friend. The last time I saw him he was telling his father he should have more empathy for people which is actually spot on. Aside from that he talks a lot about the contamination of food; gmos; pesticides etc reads labels a lot and wont eat any meat, butter, milk, anything from an animal or fruit that doesn't have seeds in it. Aside from that he talks about wanting to be out in nature in a quiet place. Ill probably hear about the "moors" tomorrow.

[161803398]

i think one of his biggest problems might be his doctors. my friend told me the doctor said to him today that people who believe 9/11 "conspiracy" theories, for instance, were psychotic. the doctor obviously thinks he knows a lot about psychosis.

my friend's son said that the hospital was the "belly of the beast".

[Milneman]

He been tested for bipolar?

[Hervé]

Ask your friend to have a look at this thread: Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics)

[Snowflower]

Years ago, in an Institution in Indiana, psychotic patients were asked, "who has helped you heal most?" All answered the same: a nurse, not any counsellors. The nurse was asked what "methods" she used. Her response was, no method, just love, and - important, very important - her belief that those sick ones had been inhabited by demons. The medical professionals assume mental illness. How do they know that someone isn't REALLY hearing voices in their heads?

My sister had a friend who had no veil between her eyes and the infinite levels of spiritual realms. She saw everything from demons to angels. She could not escape and it could easily have "driven her nuts." She remained sane with the help of friends who believed her.

On the other hand, another story of brain allergy. A young man had psychotic, homicidal rages and they discovered a deadly allergy to eggs. Even the amount of one egg in a baked recipe drove him to rage. NO egg in his diet and he was totally sane.

All are possibility. The important thing is to look beyond "mental illness" for other physical or spiritual reasons.

[Hervé]

[...]

A young man had psychotic, homicidal rages and they discovered a deadly allergy to eggs. Even the amount of one egg in a baked recipe drove him to rage. NO egg in his diet and he was totally sane.
[...]

Makes one wonder which of his "demons" is/was allergic to eggs... could even be a snake or a bird he is/was hosting... see Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics).

Also:


Scientists are waking up! :gaah:

Researchers Finally Show How Mindfulness and Your Thoughts Can Induce Specific Molecular Changes To Your Genes (http://www.wakingtimes.com/2013/12/05/researchers-finally-show-mindfulness-thoughts-can-induce-specific-molecular-changes-genes/)

December 5, 2013 | By WakingTimes (http://www.wakingtimes.com/author/wakingtimes/) |

[...]

The power of the subconscious mind is elegantly revealed in people expressing multiple personalities. While occupying the mind-set of one personality, the individual may be severely allergic to strawberries. Then, in experiencing the mind-set of another personality, he or she eats them without consequence.

[...]

[Agape]

Years ago, in an Institution in Indiana, psychotic patients were asked, "who has helped you heal most?" All answered the same: a nurse, not any counsellors. The nurse was asked what "methods" she used. Her response was, no method, just love, and - important, very important - her belief that those sick ones had been inhabited by demons. The medical professionals assume mental illness. How do they know that someone isn't REALLY hearing voices in their heads?

My sister had a friend who had no veil between her eyes and the infinite levels of spiritual realms. She saw everything from demons to angels. She could not escape and it could easily have "driven her nuts." She remained sane with the help of friends who believed her.

On the other hand, another story of brain allergy. A young man had psychotic, homicidal rages and they discovered a deadly allergy to eggs. Even the amount of one egg in a baked recipe drove him to rage. NO egg in his diet and he was totally sane.

All are possibility. The important thing is to look beyond "mental illness" for other physical or spiritual reasons.


Yes I believe this . There are people who are 'sick' spiritually and it's labeled 'psychosis' ,
there are people who are physically ill and their metabolism causes such a stir and havoc to their brain that they experiences 'psychosis' ,

there are brain damaged 'true mental cases' who are very difficult to understand ( from my rational perspective ),

there are diseases caused by wrong mind influence, environment, whatever is called 'stress' these days,

mind curses , feelings of blame, running through families for generations etc etc.

I know it's good to be careful with terms ( though our 'modern medicine' is often very fast to give people a label ) but what I recall and realised on few occasions in life,
dealing with people who are actually mentally ill can be a horror and I almost always, as a rule of thumb , 'failed to recognise 'where is the error when they came to me.
It's the sneakiness of their disease that they don't know about that may act like they are very sweet , honest, genuine individuals ..except for this n that . Then a day comes and they are totally different , out of sudden , remember no one .

Where spiritual help can work miracles there is nothing that can't be healed .

It's always worth to try , check their believes , consult friendly priests or gurus. If the individual can be talked to there's no harm .

[Sunny-side-up]

Hi 161803398, I hope your friends son finds his balance soon, plz keep us posted on any change and or information his son is saying! make note of it all :)

[william r sanford72]

I know this may sound out there..if he is a starseed etc..and has been "activated"..the tumor and reactions could be from implants.they dont react well to light vibes.or raising of the vibe.Nature..unplugged and as far from a city as posseable is and would help much.truth always.
William.

[chocolate]

It is possible the problem with the thyroid is due to a problem in his brain (pituitary probably) so taking medicines for the thyroid is like putting a bandage over a contaminated wound.

It is also possible he feels disconnected from his native knowledge, people and area (if he is indeed a descendant from the moors) all of which just happen to be located more in Europe, or Some other world destinations than in Canada...

And his opinion about the UFOs and that he is in contact with them could be a 100% a real possibility. Probably that is the main reason for his health problems.
As much as I like to think all problems have a spiritual root, sometimes some of them do emerge from very real material circumstances.

Did I mention cancer could be just an untreated candida condition? Sometimes cancers develop because of extreme (connected to UFO's and other stuff like that) situations, but most of the times it is a matter of dealing with the food and toxins we consume every day. He is aware of that also.

If it was in my power I would take that kid far away from the "normal' doctors and hospitals, but i would also have an alternative way to deal with the problems. Once I was in a similar position like that boy, and I survived up to 37 years of age. It is all possible, and I think he is still fighting to prove that.

If it was the mother who requested help from Avalon's side I would suggest one valuable book that could explain a lot:
UFOs In the Year of the Dragon by Lou Baldin. Reads fast. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009L40WBI/ref=kinw_myk_ro_title

Just my small share of unorthodox input.

and update:


Ask your friend to have a look at this thread: Dreamtime Healing - Using Holographic Kinetics (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38458-Dreamtime-Healing-Using-Holographic-Kinetics)
I think there could be a great deal of truth in what Amzer Zo suggested. There are also youtube videos from Steve Richards that can prove to be interesting.
Im-MzS2-dbQ

[Vitalux]

The reason I am posting this in the ufology section is that prior to this for several years my friend's son had refused to talk about UFOs, saying that he knew what they were, they were not what anyone thought, that he was in communication with them and that we all sounded like idiots when we talked about UFOS.

Do some research and suggest to your friend that the boy see a "regression therapist"
The regression therapist sought after should have a background in dealing with extra terrestrial abduction cases.

The regression therapist is the key.

[Aquarius Rising]

i think one of his biggest problems might be his doctors. my friend told me the doctor said to him today that people who believe 9/11 "conspiracy" theories, for instance, were psychotic. the doctor obviously thinks he knows a lot about psychosis.

my friend's son said that the hospital was the "belly of the beast".

Without going into great detail, the changes you have described in this young man's personality are strikingly familiar to me. Under circumstances such as this it may be best to seek an alternative medicine approach.

[161803398]

I have heard more today but its mostly relating to problems with the hospital staff being bureaucratic rather than human and upsetting things....they've been told so many times to stop doing that and they are on board with it...but always there is some new nurse who is policy oriented without even realizing it. (It causes upset to both my friend and his son). I told my friend about Agape's first comments which I thought was very good and were as much as I had at the time and he felt much better after hearing them and said it was very intelligent and helpful. I thought so too. Ill tell him the rest tomorrow or the next day when he arrives to read what everyone has said. I didn't have time to check out Drunvalo Melchezedek yet.

[nomadguy]

I am not a doctor but I can give some info from my experience. I had to cut out most of my sugar intake as my metabolism was off the charts. I am told this was due to an imbalance that was affecting my thyroid, it was over-active.
Since I cut sugar nearly completely out of my diet my metabolism has leveled I definitely feel loads more healthy. I do mean processed sugars, like soda, beer, candy, chocolate, cereals, condiments and sugar added fruit juice, cut these out.
I do eat fruit however and honey seems to be ok.

:yo:

[161803398]

My friend said his son is doing much better since they let him go outside and sit by the trees. But the Head doctor is a huge concern because of his position that "conspiracy theorists" are psychotic. I was discussing this with some lawyer friends, one of whom remarked that even a person who believed the world is flat is not psychotic...they have a belief based on wrong information but they aren't crazy. My friend discussed this with the head doctor who replied that all people who believe in ideas "outside the social norm" have an "underlying psychosis". We think this could be a disaster for evaluations people are receiving from this doctor...children or adults. We think the doctor might have an underlying psychosis. On another note: My friend asked the head doctor if he had taken courses in university to learn how to speak to people and the doctor said "yes". My friend asked the doctor if that was the reason the doctor was talking to him the way he was talking. The doctor said "yes". My friend told him he found that extremely rude.

[lunaflare]

does not sound a healing environment.
i would look for alternative treatment- a retreat type setting- sans fluro lights and pharmaceutical drugs.
you would probably get the most "truth" and insight as to what is going on by asking the young lad directly.
we are so anxious to classify and box a person who is expressing themselves...

[Flash]

or just get to another hospital with a more humane head psychiatrist.

I never talk of conspiracy theories with shrinks, never ever and told my daughter to do the same.

Talking of conspiracy, check the Djinns or ask the father about it, this is very frequent in the Middle East. I would want to know as well what it is about ETs that the son knows or think.

Aquarius is right, she had gone through this, it is her lifelong story.

[161803398]

The son gets a little pissed off with us when we talk about UFOs. I have seen a few UFOS and so we talk. He says they aren't people...we always talk about them as if they are people or possible alien humanoid life forms. He says they aren't what we think but doesn't explain it more than that. I think he doesn't actually know what they are; just is sure they aren't what we say or what he understands they are is beyond his ability to comprehend. Im not sure if he just thinks me and his dad are wrong or if he thinks everyone is wrong. He does use the internet quite a bit so he would have access to all kinds of info about UFOs and it seems he thinks everyone is wrong about them but not sure. He did ask me to go outside to walk around one night and pointed out some UFO like bodies moving across the sky...there were quite a few. The only ones I have seen were much closer so I'm not sure what they were.

However, there are quite a few UFOs around this area. I've seen the glowing orange orbs; and in the daytime little black ones that just sit (dk what they are) and a strange one that was pretending to be a helicopter.

[NancyV]

When I was taking care of my 84 year old mother a couple of years before she died, she would often just stop taking her thyroid medication. Within a couple of days she would get totally crazy and I knew right away she had not taken her thyroid pills. She often screamed and even got slightly violent when going into these psychotic episodes and sometimes spoke words I didn't recognize. At the time I didn't realize that the thyroid she was taking was synthetic thyroid. Perhaps quitting synthetic thyroid has an extreme effect on certain people. I am now low in thyroid and I buy natural thyroid without a prescription from England since the doctor I went to here in the US did not or would not prescribe natural desiccated thyroid.

As far as my mother, she kept getting worse and worse and I finally realized that she became possessed when she was off her meds. Probably the meds weakened her and opened her up to being influenced by or entered into by some kind of demonic spirits or energy. I finally figured out how to drive out the negative entities.... but that's a long story.

Perhaps if you recommend natural thyroid the son might be willing to take it since he seems to be into into more healthy foods. Unfortunately desiccated thyroid IS from an animal source. Maybe his doctor would be willing to prescribe "Nature Throid" thyroid, if you can get it in the US. Here is where I get it: http://antiagingcentral.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?p=2&q=NATURE+THROID.

I'm thinking there might be a connection between the extreme psychosis and quitting synthetic thyroid as there was for my mother.

[161803398]

Seems to be a turn in the right direction...he has a new doctor now from the UBC medical school (who is fortunately also a political activist).

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/robert-stowe/12/37b/a5a

[vilcabamba]

I recommend contacting Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, she specializes In hard to figure out cases. She has a natural healing clinic in los angeles, Integrative Health Systems on Larchmont Blvd. She is a whistleblower regarding chemtrails and govt implants etc. She has a radio show on blog talk radio where she talks about crystal skulls, frequencies and new age topics. She was my doctor, not an M.D. but a toxicologist with a PHD, a former insider and now whistleblower. True light warrior. She helped me figure out my health issues. She does blood testing and other tests to see what is in the body including implants, nanotechnology, chemicals, viruses, etc. Things that a medical doctor cannot test for since she is a toxicologist and can run more detailed testing that can detect the underlying issue. I was a patient at her clinic after having respiratory issues and she figured out it was from chemtrails. She put me on a natural detoxification protocol and saved my life. She has patients that fly to see her from all over the world and has high profile names that fly to see her as well. She's def. a star seed from some higher planet here to help, my opinion.