Meditation, Non-Meditation group.

[Tony]

Don't forget there is a meditation... or non-meditation group!

It's been quiet down there for some time. I don't blame you; meditation is boring...
it seems to work better when you stop!;)

Technique, No Technique

A technique is used to arrive at a result.
Once we arrive the technique is no longer needed.
Meditation techniques are to calm the mind, to see clearly.
Once the mind has clarity, we merely rest in clarity.
We drop all techniques when we arrive at pure awareness.

However!
That is only half the plot.

Modern gurus say we don't need techniques
and we don't need to meditate,
you don't have to do anything.

Let's be honest...
most of the day and night we forget pure awareness.
So we need reminders, and that is in the turmoil of life itself.
The other half of the plot is our conduct in daily life
recognising the need for
non-clinging, empathy and compassion.

The technique of recognition
exhausts all karma.
End of plot!





Tony

[Tony]

Meditation is like watching a film.

For a film to be projected it needs,
a film, light and a screen.

The light is our essence.
The film is the projection of our karma, our storehouse of reactions.
The screen is the phenomenal world
onto which we project, react,
and acquire more library film.

Meditation is the recognition our pure light as essence, allowing everything to be seen and played out. Gradually through recognition the film wears thin; it becomes transparent, and finally runs out altogether, as we stop reacting to phenomenal world. All we are left with is the light!

The result:
perception clarifies
awareness has clarifies
essence is recognised
and we rest in naturally clarity-
clear light.

Reacting to the film only creates re-runs.





Tony

[Bubu]

I just sit under the bush or lie down under a tree in a quite place. no other people no horns honking. Just sit there, no intentions to meditate or do anything. Clear and worthwhile thoughts comes in under 30 min :))

[Heartsong]

When I've tried meditation, at least quieting my mind, I fall peacefully asleep and dream.

When I empty my mind of thoughts other thoughts fill it.

[Tony]

@Heartsong

What is important is to know that there is awareness of those thoughts:
we then recognise the awareness of this awareness.

We sometimes might feel that there are even more thoughts...
this means you are noticing more!

Thoughts are merely products from our past.
Just let them be.
Always return to the awareness and rest there.

When this awareness of awareness finds nothing happening,
that it seems empty...then you have arrived at essence.
This is pure awareness, your natural being.

Don't modify it, but merely relax. It is that simple.

Short moments many times is best, so we don't try too hard,
or cling to this non-activity.

Learn to break the meditation, although remaining seated.
This is non-meditation.....non-doing.

Gradually, this pure awareness mingles with daily life.
Then we reach expression essence...love.



Tony

[Anchor]

I think that sitting around trying not to meditate is harder than sitting around trying to meditate - LOL

[Ammit]

Tony, when one loses the art of meditation, after being able to drop into it at will, but then lost it, how does one get back into it, will I have to study it all again. I lost the meditation I could do this for a while, but, after a week and could not get into any form after. I could see myself, surround myself and see even the bald patch on my head.. so, how do i begin again.????

Don

[Tony]

Tony, when one loses the art of meditation, after being able to drop into it at will, but then lost it, how does one get back into it, will I have to study it all again. I lost the meditation I could do this for a while, but, after a week and could not get into any form after. I could see myself, surround myself and see even the bald patch on my head.. so, how do i begin again.????

Don


Hello Don,
Maybe it depends on what you think meditation is?
Meditation is not separate from what you are, and that is
empty essence, cognisant nature and unconfined compassion.

Empty means pure/uncontaminated.
Cognisant means aware/knowing.
Compassion means the expression pure awareness.

Much will depend on the path you choose to follow.
From a Buddhist perspective, our path is our own confusion…
…which does not actually exist!;)

Watching the breath stills the mind.
Gradually we become aware of being aware.
We merely rest in that awareness.

Gradually we recognise our true nature…pure awareness.

So what to do with that?
We then recognise that everyone else has pure awareness
but does not know it.
And from that, love arises.


Meditation is a science; the art is its expression!
We study first, and then experience.


Tony

[Tony]

In non-meditation, it's best to keep the eyes open; this is the same with all the senses.
If, however, the mind is too agitated or dull, then there are techniques available,
such as watching the breath, chanting and analytical meditation.

On a subtler matter, clarity of essence may be mistaken for clarity of mind,
and we can fall into a subtle trap. It is the difference between pure clarity, and "I am being clear".

I hope this doesn't upset anyone, but when we say, “I am that,” this is mind talking.
The experience of is-ness is beyond identification. There is merely pure recognition.

One could well say, “I am that,” but we'd have to also say, “Not this, not this", to that!

To say or be aware of, "I am that," takes millimoments, but that still has a time element.

Pure awareness is timeless spontaneity.





Tony

[greybeard]

Good morning Tony.
Definition is not easy.
Yes "I am that" is mind defining a state and therefore an identification.
Even awareness is not totally there until its pure awareness---"One without a second" comes close.
True awareness exists without anything else to be aware of
Another definition "I I"

Chris

[greybeard]

What is meditation?
Eckhart Tolle being humorous yet the video is full of pertinent information.
Well worth viewing
Chris



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bAXwBbCtHg

[Tony]

Meditation is a tool to step out of this dream world of concepts.
Everything we experience has to pass through the mind, which is then translated by our past experiences,
and so we go round in circles...imprisoned. We think we are living in the present (which is the only reality)
but we keep mentally living in the past or future.

Meditation is the first steps to recognising the illusions we create,
by cutting through the concepts stored in the mind, by creating space.

We are pure consciousness, but through the obsession with the mind and body have built a seeming solid
projection of the outer world and ourselves. We may even subtly think that our 'being' is something 'airy fairy',
that's how distorted things have become!

In this age of technology, mass hypnotise can take place, and we become more and more trapped.
Meditation is breaking out, non-meditation is the experience of uncontaminated reality.

This doesn't mean our physical life will suddenly get better, we have some karma to work through.
We do this by not over reacting, and not creating more karma, living in the space created by meditation.


Know the truth.





Tony