Posession/suicide ??? any rational explainations would be appreciated.

[Shannow]

From the black dog thread...

my father suicided a couple of weeks ago, and aside from the obvious, it gives me the creeps.

He texted my partner and daughter, making plans for later that evening...then went out and killed himself.

While mother was receiving visitors, a friend dropped some flowers around (didn't know what happened to my father), and said that she was sorry to have to rush, but her friend's husband had suicided...two in a fairly close span (less than 36 hours) is creepy.

My brother's mate had his father go out to the BBQ area, to wire up some downlights for Christmas BBQ, and his wife found him hanging from electrical cords...he survived, but when he awoke in hospital asked if he'd fallen from the ladder, and was incredulous that he'd tried

Police described my father as a moment of irrationality, as that is what they see case after case.

Is it really that simple ?

[Flash]

What you are saying here is quite astonishing, so many in a row and it seems that they are barely conscious of trying when they survived. And men of a certain age. This does not look normal at all to me. Anything that has changed in your neighborhood? Water, spraying, food différences, feeling eerie, anything? This does not seem right.

And I am truly sorry for your dad, truly, and for you and your family. This is difficult to go through.

[RMorgan]

Hey Shannow,

It looks more like these episodes might be connected with subliminal hypnotic suggestion technology than with demonic possessions.

TVs have been used to conduct remote hypnotic suggestion tests for decades...Now they've been using the internet and wireless technology to conduct such tests.

If you're really interested, you should conduct a deeper investigative work to find common connections between those episodes.

Anyway, I'm really sorry about your father.

It's not really normal for someone to commit suicide out of the blue; Usually, suicidal persons demonstrate their intentions before actually committing suicide.

Raf.

[turiya]

A cross-post from another thread: An Update On Our Evolution by Chris Thomas (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?58865-An-Update-On-Our-Evolution-by-Chris-Thomas&p=768803&viewfull=1#post768803)

Gravity is Becoming Less
Truth, not Just Prophecy by Nithyananda[/CENTER]


"Understand, all civilizations which are ‘thinking based’ – constantly driving you to think, think, think, think, think, and feels that thought is equal to productivity, is going to just disappear into depression.

You need to understand it very clearly: All the civilizations & societies which goes on emphasizing on thinking, where ‘thinking’ is celebrated, where ‘thinking’ is equated to productivity, where thinking is equated to being alive. Even for entertainment ‘thinking’ is important. Thinking becomes an entertainment…

So, all ‘thinking based’ civilizations is going to hit one of the worst depressions. It means it will be “doomsday” for them. All civilizations which prepares human beings to be comfortable with the ‘non-thinking’ zone, that ‘being’ zone, the ‘unclutched’ zone, [non attachment zone], for them its going to be the greatest celebration & liberation.

Be comfortable with that less thought/more action space – that is all you need, this is the greatest preparation, best preparation for the coming years.

All thinking based civilizations & societies will face terrible depression. Because they won’t know what to do when automatically the number of thoughts is reducing on their nervous system. They think they are becoming inefficient & depressed. They are going to use all kinds of medicines, and alcohol & addictive drugs & everything. And going to get into self-destruction, destroying their body & mind.

All thinking-based civilizations are predicting doomsday. All being-based civilizations are predicting enlightenment. Actually, both are true. If you are a thought-based person, unable to catch up with the reality of less thoughts, it is going to be “doomsday”… heavy depression & there’s going to be huge mass suicides."

Suicide Rate Rises Sharply in U.S. - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/health/suicide-rate-rises-sharply-in-us.html)
May 2, 2013

Suicide rates increased with global economic crisis
(http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/266181.php)19 September 2013

Rising suicide rates spur global push on prevention (http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/09/10/rising-suicide-rates-spur-global-push-on-prevention/)
September 10, 2013

Suicides Surpassed Deaths from Crashes (http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/05/02/180545035/suicide-rate-climbs-for-middle-aged-americans)
May 02, 2013



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posted by turiya :cool:

[vilcabamba]

I'm sorry that your father left. To be honest, I'm kind of jealous. He is in a tranquil and beautiful place right now. He is reunited with all his long lost friends and family members who have passed. I think he's kind of lucky. Im sorry if that sounds sick to some of you. But this place, earth is inhabited by demons and if I had the guts I would jump ship too if I could.

As far as your question on why he did it. I think firstly, the energies on this planet are really rough. Even for people who love the matrix, I think it's still very difficult here emotionally. I have had many friends who look like they have it all in the matrix and then getting to know them, find out everyone has a dark side and has dark nights of the soul.

Here is a story for you..
I worked with a whistleblower..someone who worked for the gov as a scientist. She needed financial backing to bring out some new healing technology. The man who was going to finance her was a brilliant scientist and a multi-million who invented technologies that could make a blind person see again. Although these inventions are suppressed. He was on the verge of financing this women who was coming out with technology that can just beam a frequency at you and find out every toxin that was in your body and then send back the correct frequencies to neutralize them all. Well, this brilliant scientist man who was going to do the funding was found dead in his garage, suicide with a bullet to his head. He did it himself because his wife was at home and saw him grab the gun. Now why would a brilliant successful man do this??? I asked my military scientist friend who was going to receive the financing ..and she told me she thought that he was influenced by mind control technologies. She has mentioned to me that she believes they are beaming them at us through the cell phone towers at all of us. Sometimes all we need is a little nudge to move forward with a plan..and these technologies just push and push sadness at us with really low vibrational frequencies.

Dr. Fred Bell has also stated that the powers that be are beaming frequencies of sadness and hate at us. He also said that they are putting sensors in the prescription drugs that will pick up these frequencies even more.

I believe your father is in a wonderful place right now. I'm sorry that you and your family will have to wait a little bit to see him again. But you will see him face to face in your dreams. He will come to you through your dreams. Remember to ask him why he did that through meditation..you never know how and who he will provide to give you the answer you need.

As for all those suicides in the same area...can't be a coincidence. no such thing. There is a war on for our souls and the dark forces will do anything they can right now to bring us to our knees. Just know that we are all spirit and this is just a game. And one day it will be over and we can all go home and rejoice and meet up with our parents and loved ones who left before us!

[Vitalux]

his wife found him hanging from electrical cords...he survived, but when he awoke in hospital asked if he'd fallen from the ladder, and was incredulous that he'd tried


Is it really that simple ?


What I am about to convey to you might sound really crazy :der: to most.

Think of life just like we are in a dream :sleep: that appears quite real.

The conscious part of you that is reading this right now, is the dumb down side of you.
On the other side of is the higher self (guardian) that is more aware, bored :bored: and for the most part is anxious at times to return back home.
Part of the human experience the part of the soul that lives here on Earth is kept in total ignorance and amnesia of who and what he is.


For the most part, on earth in order to wake up, we have to exit the body by killing it.

In many suicide cases, in my opinion, the higher self steps in and kills the body so the soul can fully return home.
Often times it is just a case of it was time for exit point of the human experience for the soul.

In many ways, I see grieving over a loved one passing as a symptom of feeling left behind similar to the way a young child cries when their mommy leaves them at daycare.

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[sigma6]

Thanks for sharing something so personal
there appears to be a fair movement of freedom/truth seekers in australia, or at least that is the impression I get, and you know the aussies, when they go after something, they really go after it... Strange place, or perhaps unique. Unique history... and when that happens I think the government reacts and tries to clamp down.

I think the government and large corporate interests have an over extending influence there, much like in Canada, subtle from behind the scenes, but make no mistake, the sheeple blind, until they fall into the trap. Similar to Canada, a land of big interests and resources and a small population. makes an ideal environment for a flourishing parasitic government... another energy siphon for the City of London and the Vatican.

And then there is Pine Gap... Black technology, and who knows what else. 2 people committing suicide for no apparent reason, one almost hanging himself and with no memory!?... the other actually speaking out about being influenced by technology!! just before even (wow!) Extremely bizarre, very suspicious! I would double check in the larger community, and find out if there may be even more! Imagine if you found out there was even another death, someone else around that area you are not directly related to? That would really burn a question mark in my mind. Very, very suspicious and so unusually close in space and time!

At the same time, there isn't quite enough to work with, I agree with Flash and Morgan, look to see if you can find anything more. I think it is a good to discuss these things with as many other people as possible, there may be some missing information that comes to light. Whenever I hear of a suicide my mind tries to imagine what was going on in their minds, what was happening in their circumstances, their larger social environment. There could be a common denominator. People pay too little heed to these things. I think it is the least we can do... to put something of our consciousness into thoughts about these people when this happens.

Peace and blessing to you and your loved ones

[Guest]

I'm sorry for your loss Shannow. Love to you. I wish you and your family peace and healing.

I don't think there is a rational explanation for suicide.

When there are multiple suicides in Native American reservations they call it the spirit of suicide. It is a dark spirit. It takes the lives of human beings and then their souls.

The satanists have been coming on very strongly with their ceramonies since the end of October. This unleashes a lot of energies.

I've been stalked, harassed and psychically spiritually attacked. It is not fun and very stressfull. A lot of battles and sometimes I get very little sleep.

I make sure to stay connected to my-self, my own spirits and the Creator.

Love


Nora

[Shannow]

Thanks all for the discussion...I can see the ideas, and really can't discount anything

[naste.de.lumina]

Dear Shannow.
I'm sorry for your loss.
I think the only thing you can do for your sweetheart while being incarnate, is just try to think the same with positive images and love.
Believe me, thoughts of questioning his reasons for his decision and attitude will not be helping him. It's done.

I'll report my understanding about the suicide issue, and this is based on information generated from other mediums and psychics spiritual
mentors who work to support the other side of our physical experience. In the existing dimensions to the afterlife.

Many causes can lead an individual to suicide.
One of them may be the influence of obsessive spirits (energy vampires).
Despite not seeing them, we are surrounded by them daily.
Our Forms / thoughts are around our aura and when heavy adversely, serve as decoys for these unfortunates.
These spirits further stimulate these states of negativity in order to suck the resulting energy.
Anyone living that attracts these spirits may be causal result (in most cases yes) or not.
Can also be Work of negative intelligences that dominate certain frequency bands of dimension 4.
It is very difficult to determine if there was this kind of influence after the death of the victim.
What I can speak to a loved one of a suicide is that no situation or condition is eternal, unless it unifies with Everything (lighting).
According to information reaching me, there are approximately 1 million suicides per year on average on planet Earth.
Worse, many of the causes can not be found via materialistic medical treatment, since the problem may be non-physical realm.
Now imagine trying to resolve this tragic situation in a world in which most (western) people do not believe / know that there is a non-physical reality, which is our eternal reality.

Love and serenity
Naste.

[Camilo]

Dear Shannow, I'm sorry for your loss. Here is another angle to the topic.

It seems like the built up of cosmic/spiritual energies since 12-21-2012 has been affecting the human psyche very strongly in many different ways. It's believed that because this kind of energies have not been here before in the history of the planet and humanity, and for the most part nobody is talking openly about it in the msm, and there in nowhere for average people to go to and find about it, people don't know what to do, how to deal with them, and many are literally going out of their minds and killing themselves. This is going on all over the world, not just certain areas, but the msm and the governments cover the issue, because people are not turning to religion or anywhere else for help, as there is a total disbelieve and lack of trust in all traditional institutions.

[OBwan]

Shannow,

My prayers for those who are grieving have led to me become a messenger for sharing a process that has been used with a high rate of success to end grieving.

The attached PDF file is part of a book that I wrote. If this process which I explain assists, I want no accolades. Just making the NLP process available gives me a sense of contribution.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=19428&d=1353853541

[Shannow]

Mate's sister went missing yesterday, and workmates discovered veterinarian drugs missing from her place of work.

Police found her this afternoon.

[panopticon]

Mate's sister went missing yesterday, and workmates discovered veterinarian drugs missing from her place of work.

Police found her this afternoon.

How are you goin' mate? It's never easy when people suicide.

I've found that sometimes there are clusters of suicides (or what seems to be clusters) in an area amongst people who may know each other. Some people say this is evidence of an external influence working on them and while I don't want to get into a lengthy discussion about it I personally don't think it is (though some individuals may be influenced to kill themselves). More often than not there is a shared burden that persons who commit suicide believe can not be overcome (mostly this is a financial or health burden in older males and more psycho-social problems in younger persons). I reckon that is why it's advisable for family and friends to receive counselling following a suicide as it can lessen the link made between "suicide=escape" in their mind.

I hope you are coping alright.
Kind Regards, :yo:
Panopticon

[778 neighbour of some guy]

I only just became aware of this thread, my sincere condolences Shannow, to you and all involved, wish there was something I could say that could help you out and give some perspective, I have none.
I wish all involved peace and understanding, whatever that means:ohwell:

[Shannow]

More on the Archon (for want of a better word)...

I remember being about 6 years old, and Dad walking out to the garage with a rifle under a towel...no biggie, when going rabbit hunting, the rifle was always in a towel, to avoid worrying neighbours.

Curious Shannow wanders into garage, and Dad is behaving strangely, normally very careful with muzzle control...doesn't make sense to a 6 year old where the muzzle is pointed.

:insert maybe false memory: gun pointed at Shannow, and threatened with a "you too"...and "go inside and look after your sister" :thought: "what about my brother too ?

Not so sure about the false memory with the gun, as there were certainly threats with knives and death in the months that followed.

Next day I found a .22 shell (just one), right where Dad was sitting...so careful and possessive (to a 6 year old), I found it where he left it...and it was precious. I hid it.

Couple days later, I get questioned about a "bullet" that I might have found...nope, nothing...continued a few weeks.

I had a little game at the time, with 3" nails in the vice in the shed. I was the penguin, 3" nail was Batman, 2" nail was Robin...both loaded end on in vice (batman first obviously), and I'd turn slowly until Robin stuck, then turn until at some stage "ping" they escaped...lucky not to have lost an eye...many times.

One day, some kids were around from up the street, and we had "the penguin", the .22 shell that I'd kept from the day that I found it, after the day that things were strange...Commissioner Gordon put the Penguin to the screw, and he slowly buckled under the strain...and exploded...children ran.

Children's parents turned up, and wanted answers... none to be had really.

10 years later, in highschool, I had a mate who was talking about the end etc. "Flabbishmere, can you get me a bullet ?", while he described a zip gun with a piece of pipe and a single rimfire bullet...early '80s, I have no idea how pre internet, he had that idea of a zip gun...

Lost contact after highschool, and he suicided (don't know how, bit left his 13 year old sister to find him).

November, Dad walked out to the shed with a rifle tucked under a towell, and with a single .22 shell rattled himself out of this world.

Last weekend, my mother explained that when I was a little kid, Dad told her that he had intended to suicide while she was at work, had taken the rifle to the garage, and decided to end it because he had just lost their savings...but decided against it because of three young children.

Clunk...things clicked...I now realise that 40 years ago, that wasn't being careless, and embarrassed by 6yo son

Reminds me of the Stephen King Bogeyman story played in both directions.

[jackovesk]

Re: Posession/suicide ??? any rational explainations would be appreciated.

I'll try and simplify the main (Issue) for you...

I apologise in advance for the lamen explanation

Good vs Evil (Every Single Person on the Planet) has to deal with the consequences of the decisions they make on a daily basis..!

Ok, that's the premise...

Now onto Suicide due to Possession...:noidea:

Now read this again...


Good vs Evil (Every Single Person on the Planet) has to deal with the consequences of the decisions they make on a daily basis..!


Let's assume Possession = Evil & then back to Good vs Evil...

Confused yet...:sorry:

What I'm trying to say is (NO)...:nono:

To this...


Posession/suicide ???

No, it's more like making the Right Decisions (Good) instead of the Wrong Decisions (Evil)...:yes4:

...and you all know about (FREE WIIL) and every Good/Evil decision you make comes down to just 1 single thing...

((CHOICE))...:wizard: