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Cidersomerset
18th December 2013, 23:59
There was an item about Bit Coin on BBC 2 News night earlier, it was interesting
and Max Kieser made a brief appearance which was quite lively as usual and
culminating with him tearing up £ note to prove his point. He was on have I got
news for you the other week so he has become noticed by mainstream. The item is
not on the web yet. They were talking about the item below....

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18 December 2013 Last updated at 11:51
Bitcoin sinks after China restricts yuan exchangesBy Leo Kelion

Technology reporter


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BTC China's Bobby Lee BTC China's Bobby Lee says his exchange remains in business

despite new restrictions
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Bitcoin has fallen to less than half the value it recently traded for, following reports
of fresh action by Beijing to restrict trade in the virtual currency.BTC China has said
that local payment companies have been blocked from providing it with clearing
services.It means that the firm - the world's biggest Bitcoin exchange in terms of
trading volumes - can no longer accept yuan-based deposits.

Prices tumbled following the news.

One bitcoin was trading for as low as 2,560 yuan ($421, £258), according to the
South China Morning Post.

That compares with an all-time high of 7,588 yuan ($1,250; £764) in late November.

Exchanges in other countries also reported drops, with Japan-based MtGox seeing
the exchange rate for one bitcoin fall from $717 to as low as $480 in Wednesday's trade.

"A lot of people put Bitcoin's rise over recent months to China where interest in it
has gone through the roof," said Emily Spaven, editor of digital currency news site
Coin Desk told the BBC.

"People are getting frightened that with the new regulations the country could now
drop out of the ecosystem. Going forward, it's certainly not the end of Bitcoin, but
people have been panic selling."

Currency controls

Virtual currency exchanges in China are not licensed by the country's central bank
to accept or pay out yuan to their customers, making them reliant on independent
clearing houses to act as middlemen.

"We essentially got notice from our third-party provider today that they will
discontinue accepting payments for us and new deposits," Bobby Lee, chief
executive of BTC China, told SCMP.

"We're still operating a Bitcoin exchange in China legally, and we're still allowing
people to deposit and withdraw Bitcoin, and withdraw renminbi [yuan]."

According to Yicai - a business news website with ties to the government - the news
followed a meeting between officials from the People's Bank of China and 10
clearing houses on Monday in Beijing, at which the firms were told they had until
the end of January to sever links to the country's Bitcoin exchanges.

This followed an earlier notice, issued by the regulators a fortnight ago, which
banned local banks from handling transactions involving bitcoins.


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Bitcoin wallet The Chinese ban will make it harder for locals to swap their yuan for
bitcoins The virtual currency is not backed by a central bank of its own, and is best
thought of as being virtual tokens, rather than real-world coins, which derive their
value from the ability to exchange them for cash or use them to buy goods.

One expert suggested the crackdown was the result of the Chinese government's
fears that locals were using it as a way to bypass currency controls in order to
move their savings out of the country.

"China is trying to grow its domestic economy and rebalance it from an export and

investment-based model to a consumer driven one over the next decade, and to do
that the authorities want to keep as much yuan within the country as possible,"
said Jinny Yan, an economist with Standard Chartered bank.

"They don't want to curtail any innovation in the financial sector. However, at the
moment any unexpected growth and development in channels that allow by-
passing of capital controls will cause anxiety."

Ms Spaven added that she believed Bitcoin would eventually bounce back.

"Underneath all the speculative trading is a robust technology that has intrinsic
value as a payment network, offering cheaper and faster money transfer than any
other options that exist currently," she said.

"If you look at our Bitcoin Price Index, you can see that prices dipped to below the

current level this time last month and soon bounced back. I believe the same will
happen this time around. It may take some time, but the price will rise again."



How Bitcoin works


Bitcoin is often referred to as a new kind of currency.


But it may be best to think of its units being virtual tokens rather than physical
coins or notes.However, like all currencies its value is determined by how much
people are willing to exchange it for.To process Bitcoin transactions, a procedure
called "mining" must take place, which involves a computer solving a difficult
mathematical problem with a 64-digit solution.For each problem solved, one block
of bitcoins is processed. In addition the miner is rewarded with new bitcoins This
provides an incentive for people to provide computer processing power to solve the
problems.To compensate for the growing power of computer chips, the difficulty of
the puzzles is adjusted to ensure a steady stream of about 3,600 new bitcoins a
day.

There are currently about 11 million bitcoins in existence.

To receive a bitcoin a user must have a Bitcoin address - a string of 27-34 letters
and numbers - which acts as a kind of virtual postbox to and from which the
bitcoins are sent.Since there is no registry of these addresses, people can use them
to protect their anonymity when making a transaction.

These addresses are in turn stored in Bitcoin wallets which are used to manage
savings. They operate like privately run bank accounts - with the proviso that if the
data is lost, so are the bitcoins owned.


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Bitcoin takes 50% plunge after China's biggest exchange bans new deposits


Published time: December 18, 2013 13:13
Edited time: December 18, 2013 15:43
Reuters / Jim Urquhart


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The value of the cryptocurrency has crashed to $550, less than half the $1,200
trading level last week, after BTC China - the world’s largest bitcoin exchange -
halted deposits in Chinese yuan.The ban followed a decision by YeePay, a third-
party payment provider, that said on Wednesday it would no longer accept yuan
deposits, while it’ll keep on processing withdrawals, Bloomberg News reports.

“For reasons we all know, BTC China has had to cease renminbi-account charging
functions,” the exchange said in its message.

“We think this is due to government regulation. We have to play by the rules of the
government of China,” Bobby Lee, CEO of BTC China, told Bloomberg News. BTC
China began discussions with the People's Central Bank of China over bitcoin
legitimacy on December 2.

At the time of publication, the currency was trading at $550 on Japan’s Mt. Gox,
one of the world’s largest bitcoin exchanges.

The clampdown on the virtual currency was initiated by the People’s Bank of China
two weeks ago, as they saw strong links between bitcoin and money laundering.
Government ministries told financial institutions dealing with bitcoin must stop by
January 31, the beginning of Chinese New Year holiday.

Bitcoin has gained enormous popularity in China, a nation famous for its currency
pegging as well as its saving ethics. The yuan is under strict government control to
keep economic risk low and control currency flow between borders, but the
economic ministry has been taking steps towards a free-floating currency by 2015.
Though it has no intrinsic value and isn’t backed by a government or bank, Bitcoin
has become a hot commodity to trade, similar to gold as it’s a way to save and
hedge against normal FOREX currencies.

Since its inception in 2008 by a man using the alias “Satoshi Nakmoto”, Bitcoin has
gone mainstream and can be used to buy coffee, pay for online dating services, and
can even be retrieved from an ATM. There are more than 12 million Bitcoins in
circulation worldwide.

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Cidersomerset
19th December 2013, 00:08
BBC News - China's love-hate relationship with virtual currency Bitcoin

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China's love-hate relationship with virtual currency Bitcoin17 December 2013 Last
updated at 10:26 GMT

Chinese investors have limited options where to put their money, but they have
been attracted to Bitcoin by the skyrocketing returns.

At the start of the year, a single Bitcoin cost $14, but they now retail for $850 each
- promoting analysts to suggest short-term speculation is creating a Bitcoin bubble.

And while the Chinese authorities have not banned them, the country's banks can
no longer use them for transactions.

Martin Patience reports from Beijing


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13 December 2013 Last updated at 11:40
Bitcoin: Price v hype By Vanessa Barford
BBC News Magazine

Virtual currency Bitcoin has attracted increasing media attention over the past year.
It's also soaring in value, with a single bitcoin surpassing $1,000 (£613) for the first
time in November. So has the media hype driven the price hike?

To the average man in the street, Bitcoin is a complicated concept.

You might grasp what a typical currency is. The pound is influenced by a central
bank - the Bank of England. When it puts up interests rates, or it's expected to, the
value of the pound might subsequently go up.

If the Bank of England prints more money, or there is speculation that it will, the
value's probably going to go down. Ultimately, the value's determined between

buyers and sellers on the international markets.

Bitcoin's a bit different. There's no central bank. It's stateless. And the supply of
Bitcoin is determined by an algorithm that allows computers around the world
to "mine" the currency at a set rate per day. There's a limit - about 21m - to how
many can ever be mined and no way to issue a flood of new Bitcoins and devalue
those already in circulation.

The currency's value - according to about 60 exchanges around the world where
Bitcoins are bought and sold - is volatile. Unlike with the dollar or the pound, prices
can vary considerably from exchange to exchange, sometimes by as much as $200.

But compared with other currencies, Bitcoin's rise has been meteoric. One Bitcoin
was worth $934 on the Tokyo-based Mt Gox exchange on 10 December - up from
$14 at the beginning of the year. This Tokyo exchange now represents about 25%
of Bitcoin trading, down from estimates earlier this year of about 80%, but
remaining one of the largest.

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At the same time, there has never been so much talk about virtual currency - in
social media, in blogs and in the press. Depending on who you speak to, Bitcoin is
either the currency of the future or the next big bubble.

Commentators have suggested a correlation between publicity and price rise
before. In November, TechCrunch's Alex Wilhelm said Bitcoin's price had "never
been worth more, or generated more headlines that I can recall. The two are likely
connected" and the Financial Times' John Authers writes: "Time to take the Bitcoin
bubble seriously."

It's hard to get a definitive measurement of Bitcoin's press coverage. But one crude
and slightly unscientific way of measuring it is using media database Lexis Nexis.
Searching for "bitcoin" across all English language news brought up 2,631 articles
in November. This is up from 41 in January this year.

In online media and in blogs, Bitcoin came up 14,179 times in November in the US
alone - up from 187 times in January, according to PR software company Cision UK.

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Cidersomerset
19th December 2013, 00:14
Max talking about it last week.......


Keiser Report: Bitcoin Battle (E534)

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Published on 10 Dec 2013


In this episode of the Keiser Report, Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss the bitcoin price
plunge as Baidu ditches the crypto currency and China bans it for financial firms. Unnoticed
at the same time, Germany declares bitcoin to be private money and Merrill Lynch claims it
can replace money transfer systems like Western Union. In the second half, Max interviews
Dr. Christos Vlachos, CFO of the University of Nicosia, which is now accepting bitcoin as
payment and he explains how the volatility in the price won't matter to the university.
They also discuss Dr. Vlachos' hope to turn Cyprus into a bitcoin hub.

Cidersomerset
19th December 2013, 00:18
Just watched this debate about gold earlier in the year on News night again
Quite amusing and lively ...LOL

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EYES WIDE OPEN
19th December 2013, 11:52
Here is Bill Still on Keiser report yesterday explaining why Quark is a good investment and clarifying the myths and lies around it as well as explaining that China has NOT banned bitcoin and can still be used quite freely. (from about 16 mins in)


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