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Frederick Jackson
19th December 2013, 07:05
I was under the impression that earthquake activity has been increasing the last several years. However according to the UK geological service activity through 2010 has not really seen an increase.

http://www.bgs.ac.utk/research/earthquakes/earthquakeActivity.html (http://www.bgs.ac.uk/research/earthquakes/earthquakeActivity.html)

Does someone have global statistics through 2013?

Also I want to ask, is anyone aware of any correlation between earthquake activity and the operation of the CERN Large Hadron Collider?

Bob
30th December 2013, 20:42
I was under the impression that earthquake activity has been increasing the last several years. However according to the UK geological service activity through 2010 has not really seen an increase.

http://www.bgs.ac.utk/research/earthquakes/earthquakeActivity.html (http://www.bgs.ac.uk/research/earthquakes/earthquakeActivity.html)

Does someone have global statistics through 2013?

Also I want to ask, is anyone aware of any correlation between earthquake activity and the operation of the CERN Large Hadron Collider?

Hi Fredrick, i dont have the statistics, but this page in laymen's terms connects some dots with solar activity, weather, climate and quakes and eruptions.

Bob
ref: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/08/can-solar-activity-cause-earthquakes-volcanoes-and-extreme-weather.html

Frederick Jackson
4th January 2014, 17:46
Bob, Thanks so much for this link. I was only aware of the normal tectonic and geothermal mechanisms and possibly a lunar-solar tidal forces connection. The putative connection between solar cycles and disturbances the geomagnetic field to earthquake activity indicates just how interconnected everything is in the earth system So very possibly the huge magnetic fields generated by the CERN collider are related to increased earthquake activity around the globe. I wonder if there us anyone who might do the calculations to estimate the forces globally from the CERN generated magnetic fields.

Tesla_WTC_Solution
4th January 2014, 20:14
OP, I used to be pretty worried about this -- but then it died off.

I don't see how the LHC etc. would not have an effect on the environment, particularly the surrounding environment.
Perhaps the damage is more severe than we realize, and has effects on things we consider to be outside the normal realm of physics...

http://phys.org/news/2013-12-collapse-universe-closer.html

p.s. the GOCE satellite that fell recently, it showed the weird gravity readings around Japan before the 3/11/11 quake; extremes bordering on extremes... made we wonder about some kind of particle saturation.

Bob
5th January 2014, 19:46
Bob, Thanks so much for this link. I was only aware of the normal tectonic and geothermal mechanisms and possibly a lunar-solar tidal forces connection. The putative connection between solar cycles and disturbances the geomagnetic field to earthquake activity indicates just how interconnected everything is in the earth system So very possibly the huge magnetic fields generated by the CERN collider are related to increased earthquake activity around the globe. I wonder if there us anyone who might do the calculations to estimate the forces globally from the CERN generated magnetic fields.

Hi Fredrick,

I suppose I tend to wonder, how much of the solar energy is absorbed, and how much is re-radiated.

I saw this statistic:

"All the energy stored in Earth's reserves of coal, oil, and natural gas is matched by the energy from just 20 days of sunshine. Outside Earth's atmosphere, the sun's energy contains about 1,300 watts per square meter. About one-third of this light is reflected back into space, and some is absorbed by the atmosphere (in part causing winds to blow)."

What happens to the higher energy particles, when they are absorbed? Do they convert into kinetic motion, "heat"?

My feeling is the massive influx of solar energy largely dwarfs what we can by human means create by man-made machines. I agree with Tesla_WTC, the localized effects by massive machines can be terribly assaultive locally, however the amount of area affected appears minimal. Good question to ask when a massive particle accelerator runs, what does that do to "quantum" reality (information reality, thoughts precede things - does that become distorted..)

To answer the question then I believe that you pose, what effect specifically does a certain amount of magnetic field have on the environment (if so) and can we extrapolate outwards, 1 Tesla magnetic quantity affects X life force by such and such.. Also environmentally 1 Tesla affects such and such by what amount..

The direct tie-in would have to show that a field is radiated into the environment and not kept contained in the "race-track".

My feeling would be the quantum alteration (the distortion produced locally) is what would be the most effect, as "science" would say, the fields remain contained..

Bob

Tesla_WTC_Solution
2nd March 2014, 22:52
Bobd! I have a question, lol.

Recently someone (within last two months) here posted a thread about how even a "weak/small" 3D magnetic field can protect a spacecraft from radiation due to the fact that most types of incoming radiation tend to conform with the "shape" of the magnetic field, kind of like Star Trek I guess.

They were claiming that (this was from a MSM article actually) solar wind, other types of constant/persistent radiation, were able to "follow a conduit" that was itself nothing more than a roughly toroidal magnetic field. i.e. stray and linear radiation "liked" the roundness and just "dripped" around instead of penetrating the core.


What my question consists of might be obvious already: What about radiation from inside the toroid?
We know that the OUTSIDE repels/orders radiation, but what about the inside?

Is it possible to compromise your shield by inducing strange radiation from within rather than without,
and to collapse this field from the INSIDE, do you need less interference than from outside?

does that make any sense or just make me look dumb? lol

:)

I thought Bobd would know the answer to this one though.!

Bob
2nd March 2014, 23:15
Bobd! I have a question, lol.

Recently someone (within last two months) here posted a thread about how even a "weak/small" 3D magnetic field can protect a spacecraft from radiation due to the fact that most types of incoming radiation tend to conform with the "shape" of the magnetic field, kind of like Star Trek I guess.

They were claiming that (this was from a MSM article actually) solar wind, other types of constant/persistent radiation, were able to "follow a conduit" that was itself nothing more than a roughly toroidal magnetic field. i.e. stray and linear radiation "liked" the roundness and just "dripped" around instead of penetrating the core.


What my question consists of might be obvious already: What about radiation from inside the toroid?
We know that the OUTSIDE repels/orders radiation, but what about the inside?

Is it possible to compromise your shield by inducing strange radiation from within rather than without,
and to collapse this field from the INSIDE, do you need less interference than from outside?

does that make any sense or just make me look dumb? lol

:)

I thought Bobd would know the answer to this one though.!

Probably want to start a new thread on that one Tesla.

I had responded to Frederick's OP in-so-much that he was feeling CERN's LHC had a link possibly with increasing earthquake activity.

I had pointed him to a page that offered a suggestion that solar activity particles upon being absorbed in the Earth field and crust (depending on the charge of the particle, proton electron or neutral (like x-ray) ) ties also into Mitch Battros' observations (earthchangesmedia.com): extra energy absorbed upsets a balance - the tectonic plates, facilitates magma movement..

I have been also tracking solar activity particle absorption in the two Volcano threads under News and Updates (in the forum) and have seen what looks like correlations. The amount of energy difference between the solar absorption potential and the amount of energy involved with CERN's LHC are many magnitudes different. Similar to a fly attempting to move QE2 -

Tesla_WTC_Solution
3rd March 2014, 06:51
Indeed :)

http://www.math.nyu.edu/~crorres/Archimedes/Lever/EarthBig.jpg

http://www.paranormalpeopleonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/131_BlackHole-300x199.jpg

p.s. did you guys know that cosmic rays refract etc./break up when they encounter our atmosphere?

http://www.deepscience.org/images/photo_summary_01_med.jpg


Furthermore, the Earth’s atmosphere and geomagnetic field prevent most of the cosmic rays from reaching the surface. In order to better study high-energy sources in the Universe, the best way is to study the neutrinos that these sources emit. Since neutrinos rarely interact with matter, they will travel in a straight line from their source toward Earth, passing through the obstacles that would block or deflect cosmic rays and other electromagnetic radiation. As an effect, they will also have retained all of their initial properties while reaching Earth, giving invaluable insights to astrophysicists about the exact conditions and properties of their place of origin.

Since neutrinos are so elusive, the best way to observe them is to build detectors, usually around huge tanks filled with a liquid medium, that in most cases is pure water. The detectors around the tank are photomultiplier tubes that have the ability to detect the light that passes through them. When a neutrino collides with an atom of the liquid inside the tank, it will result in the emission of Cherenkov radiation that will be detected by the photomultiplier tubes around the tank. The higher the energy of the original point source, the higher the energy of the colliding neutrinos will be. For such very high-energy sources, neutrino detectors need to be sensitive to energies in the TeV range. (eV is the unit measuring the energy of subatomic particles. 1 eV is the energy needed to move an electron through an electric potential difference of 1 Volt.) And the best location for neutron detectors is underground, where they are shielded by other sources of natural background radiation.

http://www.americaspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/cosmic-rays-240x364.jpg


Such is the case with the IceCube Neutrino Observatory in Antarctica. It is located at the exact point of the geographic South Pole, underground the U.S. Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station. Instead of being inside a huge tank of water, its neutrino detectors are distributed around a cubic kilometer of pure water ice, extending 2.5 km below the station. The ice in these depths is really transparent and made of pure water, which in turn makes the detection of Cherenkov radiation easier. The detector itself consists of 86 strings in total, which run all the way from the surface down to the bedrock, ranging in depth from 1.5 to 2.5 km. Each individual string has 60 optical sensors, which brings the total number of sensors to 5,160. This whole underground facility makes up the IceCube Detector. On top of this, at the surface, sits the IceTop Array, consisting of a series of optical sensors as well—2 for each string of the IceCube Detector. This IceTop Array is used for complementary cosmic ray observations that hit the Earth’s atmosphere, producing showers of secondary particles.

Sunny-side-up
3rd March 2014, 09:26
earthquake activity and the operation of the CERN Large Hadron Collider?
Solar activity and earth quake activity!

Something else to calculate in maybe be:

What activity was hitting Earth at the times when the collider/s where switched on? Was sun active or not, where in position was the collider in relation to the sun?

all could make a difference ya know!