That's no Dissonance: That's cacophony!

[Hervé]

I read the title of the article and the gears in my mind screech to a grinding halt... speechless.

So, let's recap a bit

There's that guy, Ed Snowden, who blew the whistle on NSA's worldwide spying...

... who found refuge in Russia...

... and Putin has nothing better to say than:

Putin: NSA surveillance needed to fight terrorism (http://news.yahoo.com/putin-nsa-surveillance-needed-fight-terrorism-093524080--finance.html)

http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/04/21/image001-png_162613.png (http://www.ap.org/) By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV and NATALIYA VASILYEVA December 19, 2013 7:25 AM


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Russian President Vladimir Putin listens to a question at his annual news conference in Moscow, Russ …


MOSCOW (AP) — President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that National Security Agency surveillance is necessary to fight terrorism, but added that the U.S. government must "limit the appetite" of the agency with a clear set of ground rules.

Putin's comment was surprising support for President Barack Obama's administration, which has faced massive criticism over the sweeping U.S. electronic espionage program.
The Russian leader was speaking at his tightly choreographed annual press conference, a televised affair that stretched on for just over four hours and attracted hundreds of journalists from Russia's far-flung regions to a giant hall in a central Moscow business center.

The Kremlin sees the event as key in burnishing Putin's father-of-the nation image. Some journalists held signs — or in one case a stuffed polar bear mascot for the Winter Games in Sochi — in an effort to get called on for a question that could get special attention for their region.

Putin, a 16-year KGB veteran and the former chief of Russia's main espionage agency, said that while the NSA program "isn't a cause for joy, it's not a cause for repentance either" because it is needed to fight terrorism.

He argued that it's necessary to monitor large numbers of people to expose terrorist contacts. But "on political level, it's necessary to limit the appetite of special services with certain rules," he said.


Putin added that the efficiency of the effort — and its damage to privacy — is limited by the sheer inability to process such a huge amount of data.

Asked about former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, whom Russia has granted asylum, Putin insisted that Moscow isn't controlling him.

He argued that any revelations published by Snowden must have come from materials he provided before landing in Russia, and reaffirmed that Moscow made providing refuge to Snowden conditional on his halting what he called ant-American activities.

Putin said he hasn't met with Snowden. He insisted that Russian security agencies haven't worked with him and have not asked him any questions related to NSA activities against Russia.

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Full article: http://news.yahoo.com/putin-nsa-surveillance-needed-fight-terrorism-093524080--finance.html
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Associated Press writer Laura Mills contributed to this report.


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So... is this put out to coral people into the only logical conclusion that Putin and his KGB are highly benefiting from NSA's "surveillance" and exchanging their treasure troves?

Former CIA Sue Arrigo had no qualms about contacting her KGB counterparts to get videos and audio recordings they got from the "Oval Office" to get proofs of Cheney's/Bush's doings...

What a world!

[christian]

There's is some information from an Egyptian prophet that may relate to this. It may be completely irrelevant and unsubstantiated, but apparently her track record is not that bad.

The article is from December 4th, here's an the part about Russia and its surveillance apparatus:





In 2014 the map of the world will change, which will affect Russia as well. Russia will also have to fight against a large terrorist attack. It will succeed thanks to its law enforcement structures and due to some technologies, about which don't know, but which are in reality the most perfect in the world.

http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_12_04/In-2014-the-world-map-will-change-Egyptian-prophet-9627/


I'm only posting this because her prediction that "there will be snowfall in Egypt" had already come true. However, given that the interview with her was published on December 4th, it may well have been possible that meteorologists already had that on the radar by that time as well.

[mosquito]

As I've said before, Putin is 99% mouth, playing the scripted part of America's (clarification - I mean the American government) foe when in reality he's hand in hand with them.

As you said - a cacophony ! Reminiscent of 1984. I wonder, does the average person truly not see this ?

I only hope that Snowden and those working with him fully comprehend the danger he's in. I can't think of any country where he'll be totally safe.

[ghostrider]

strange enough Col Phillip Corso stated in his book the Day After Roswell , the KGB was running the CIA and the CIA was running the KGB ... so many double agents back then , each thought they had the upper hand on the other ... I said that to say this , Putin's words that the NSA is needed to fight terrorism goes right along with what Col Corso has said , Putin secretly has hands on the NSA just like the CIA , and the CIA has hands on the KGB , interesting that Snowden fled to China then to Russia of all places ... almost like a staged event , I mean the guy is still alive , if the spooks were going to kill someone , he would be on the allstar list ...

[Wind]

Even if Putin isn't working with the NWO-faction it doesn't mean that he is a saint. He is a very influential and a powerful man, no doubt about that. Unfortunately, all of these "great" leaders these days seem to have only their own interests in mind. Normal people are just mere pawns to them.

http://www.rense.com/general20/asp.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia
http://www.businessinsider.com/is-vladmir-putin-secretly-the-richest-person-in-the-world-2012-4
http://latitude.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/08/masha-gessen-remembering-anna-politkovskaya/?_r=0
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10151790/Vladimir-Putin-signs-anti-gay-propaganda-bill.html
http://www.amazon.com/Putins-Russia-Life-Failing-Democracy/dp/0805082506

[chocolate]

I am almost 100% sure that Snowden was well organized "whistle blower" who had to reach his current location. For reference watch Homeland TV series.

I predict ( :) ) the truth about Snowden will come out in a short while [for those who still believe he is a honest whistle blower].

There is no difference between the leader of the US/England/Germany/France etc (or their not official rulers), from those of any other large enough country, especially Russia! Even in small Bulgaria it is done in a similar fashion, just here the scale is different.

Probably those who don't really understand how it works are those who haven't lived in my part of Europe, who haven't grown up with all the books on spies, some of which were from Russian authors, and who haven't heard the stories.
Some people feel really sorry for us, for all the sad experimentation done during the socialism, but in truth we see the world much clearer than anyone else. Our illusions and delusions have been gone for years.

So, in short, they all operate the same. There is absolutely nothing strange why Putin has said what he has said. And why Snowden was allowed to do what he had done.

[mrchunkytown]

strange enough Col Phillip Corso stated in his book the Day After Roswell , the KGB was running the CIA and the CIA was running the KGB ... so many double agents back then , each thought they had the upper hand on the other ... I said that to say this , Putin's words that the NSA is needed to fight terrorism goes right along with what Col Corso has said , Putin secretly has hands on the NSA just like the CIA , and the CIA has hands on the KGB , interesting that Snowden fled to China then to Russia of all places ... almost like a staged event , I mean the guy is still alive , if the spooks were going to kill someone , he would be on the allstar list ... i agree man, i find it amazing that he's still alive. only logical explanation is that it was a staged event. maybe with all the new surveillance technologies and such they wanted to bring the current method into light to condition the public to be more accepting of the future methods of surveillance, or spark a civil war over it all, and Snowden was just their medium to do so. idk, all i know is the whole thing stinks to me. although i am glad it all finally came out that we are being watched constantly.

[Hervé]

Thank you all for commenting.

"Thinking" about it, I can only see two main reasons for such MSM spreads and echoings across the globe:

1) the technology is already obsolete and it's given as a bone thrown to "conspiracy theorists", or

2) it's a test of "their" social engineering to check where the world's public opinion is at.

Of course, there is a third possibility and that is that it's a combination of the two main points for maximum yield.


To me, it seems that a sample of the social engineering can be seen with the reactions to the A&E show "Duck Dynasty":

http://www.adweek.com/news/television/duck-dynasty-smashes-cable-ratings-records-151862

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/12/20/duck-dynasty-cant-imagine-show-going-on-without-phil/


KW343K1-upo(Warning: strong street/bush language)


Don't get side-tracked by the issues chosen for the dividing/steering of populations... social engineering is only interested in "What are the strongest emotional triggers?" and "Where is the divide at?" as well as "Which way do we stir/steer now?"

[Hervé]

Regarding the obsolescence, it might have to do with something like this:

Unconventional research in USSR and Russia (http://www.sott.net/article/270676-Unconventional-research-in-USSR-and-Russia#)

Arkadiusz Jadczyk, Sott.net (http://www.sott.net/article/270676-Unconventional-research-in-USSR-and-Russia#), Sun, 22 Dec 2013 03:24 CST

Summary: Unconventional research embraces physics, artificial intelligence and the paranormal.

Cf. 'Billion dollar race: Soviet Union vied with US in 'mind control research'', Russia Today (http://rt.com/news/psychotronic-arms-soviet-weapon-379/), December 17th, 2013


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© 2013 Russia Today.


The title of this article comes from a recent paper (http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.1148) by Serge Kernbach:



'Unconventional research in USSR and Russia: short overview', Serge Kernbach (Submitted on 4 Dec 2013 (v1), last revised 5 Dec 2013 (this version, v2))
This work briefly surveys unconventional research in Russia from the end of the 19th until the beginning of the 21th centuries in areas related to generation and detection of a 'high-penetrating' emission of non-biological origin. The overview is based on open scientific and journalistic materials. The unique character of this research and its history, originating from governmental programs of the USSR, is shown. Relations to modern studies on biological effects of weak electromagnetic emission, several areas of bioinformatics and theories of physical vacuum are discussed. Nowadays almost every physicist is monitoring, one way or another, all the new papers in her/his domain of interest. The arxiv site is probably the most popular one among physicists, mathematicians and computer science researchers. It is not completely easy to submit a paper there. Not that there is a peer-review process there, but some kind of endorsement from some "well-established" scientist is needed. Otherwise your paper will not be accepted for pre-publication. Why was Kernbach's paper accepted? Because he has 16 papers already there. And also, probably, because of his affiliation:
Cybertronica Research, Research Center of Advanced Robotics
and Environmental Science, Melunerstr. 40, 70569 Stuttgart, Germany
Checking the publications of Serge Kernbach we find that his main interest is in the science and practice of robotics, mainly in "swarms of robots". An army of mini-robots can today be programmed to act in a way similar to the behavior of ants and/or bees. Look at these videos - they are amazing, and also somewhat scary:


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But why does an expert in swarms of robots get interested in "unconventional research" that has to do with physics?

This question came to my mind after his paper caught my attention. So I started a little research of my own. The article has also the comment stating that:
2) V.1.4. Russian version of this work is submitted to the International Journal of Unconventional Science So I checked what it is that Serge Kernbach is publishing in Russian rather than in English? Well, it appears that he is one of the co-founders of the Journal of Unconventional Science. In the first issue of this online journal there is an introductory article, written together with Vlad Zhigalov, in which the Editors touch the subjects of scientific ethics, and also describe the way the new journal will work. Then there is another paper, also written with Vlad Zhigalov, in which they describe a series of experiments on the "phantom effect" - one of the effects that are sometimes classified as belonging to "the paranormal". But even more interesting is Kernbach's paper in the most recent issue of the Journal:


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It follows from this article that Kernbach is interested in "highly penetrating radiation". In fact he is an inventor of some of the devices that produce such a "radiation". The physical nature of this radiation is not clear. It may act both on physical devices and on biological systems as well. It can penetrate walls and act at a distance, even 'faster than light".


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One of the commercially available detectors of the "higly penetrating emission" - IGA1. From a paper by V. Zhigalov "Harakternye jeffekty nejelektromagnitnogo izluchenija" 2011

Yet, until now, it belongs to the "fringe science", "pseudo-science" or "false science". In fact, sometimes publications dealing with this subject find their way to the mainstream physics journals, but always under disguise.

We can ask now again: why is it that Serge Kernbach, an expert in artificial intelligence and swarms of robots, is also interested in "paranormal phenomena" (or in "psychotronics", as it was called in Russia)?

A partial answer to this question may be guessed from the referee report published under the article in The International Journal of Unconventional Science. The report is written by A. Yu. Smirnov, another expert in "radiation of unknown nature" (http://psiterror.ru/download.php?view.179), and inventor of another "generator" of such a radiation.

Smirnov discusses there the role of "information" and the role of the "human operator" in experiments with similar devices, both generators and the detectors. These subjects appear to be neglected in the article by Kernbach. Smirnov suggests that one reason for these omissions and for the fact that Kernbach is mainly interested in some kind of an official "certification" of similar devices, may be the commercial reason. It would be nice if we can equip robots with similar sensors, let them communicate using not-well-understood but sometimes very effective processes, and sell them. Here are just two sentences from Smirnov's review:
Таким образом, можно предположить, что у автора речь идет, не больше и не меньше - о сертификации генераторов и приемников ВИ, по-видимому, как необходимого этапа к подготовке к массовому, в том числе, коммерческому использованию приборов: генераторов, а, возможно, и детекторов "высокопроникающего излучения".

Это нормальная, понятная позиция, но только причем здесь наука? In translation:
This way, we can assume that what the author has in mind is just that: certification of generators and detectors of "highly penetrating radiation", evidently as a necessary step for mass production, including the commercial use of the devices: generators and, perhaps, also detectors of the "highly penetrating radiation".

Such an approach is understandable, but what has it to do with science? The original article by Serge Kernbach, the one about "Unconventional research in USSR and Russia", the one that was featured on Russia Today (http://rt.com/news/psychotronic-arms-soviet-weapon-379/), tells us about the research up until 2003. What happened after that? Well, after that Serge Kernbach himself is busy with his own unconventional research.

As the subject touches several areas of physics that are within my own domain of scientific interest, I am going to write more about these subjects in forthcoming articles.


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Check also this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?56002-Must-Read-The-Matrix-Deciphered-by-Dr-Robert-Duncan&p=771242&viewfull=1#post771242) (<----)

[Hervé]

From the Russia Today (http://rt.com/news/psychotronic-arms-soviet-weapon-379/)'s article:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.pngKernbach’s overview of unconventional research in USSR and Russia suggests that following the collapse of the USSR in 1991, these programs were first reduced and then completely closed in 2003.

“Due to academic and non-academic researchers, the instrumental psychotronics, denoted sometimes as torsionics, still continue to grow, but we cannot speak about government programs in Russia any longer,” he said.

However, based on the number of participants at major conferences, the number of psychotronics researchers in Russia is estimated between 200 and 500, the report said.

Last year, the now-fired Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said his ministry was working on futuristic weaponry.

“The development of weaponry based on new physics principles; direct-energy weapons, geophysical weapons, wave-energy weapons, genetic weapons, psychotronic weapons, etc., is part of the state arms procurement program for 2011-2020,” Serdyukov said (http://rt.com/news/weapons-future-zombie-media-486/) at a meeting with the then Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, cited RIA Novosti.

That followed a series of Putin’s presidential campaign articles, one of which focused on national security guarantees. Speaking about new challenges that Russia may face, and which armed forces should be ready to respond to, he wrote (http://rt.com/politics/official-word/strong-putin-military-russia-711/):

“Space-based systems and IT tools, especially in cyberspace, will play a great, if not decisive role in armed conflicts. In a more remote future, weapon systems that use different physical principles will be created (beam, geophysical, wave, genetic, psychophysical and other types of weapons). All this will provide fundamentally new instruments for achieving political and strategic goals in addition to nuclear weapons.”http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png“Over the past years, US researchers have confirmed the possibility of affecting functions of the nervous system by weak electromagnetic fields (EMFs), as it was previously said by Soviet researchers. EMFs may cause acoustic hallucination (’radiosound’) and reduce the sensitivity of humans and animals to some other stimuli, to change the activity of the brain (especially the hypothalamus and the cortex), to break the processes of formation processing and information storage in the brain. These nonspecific changes in the central nervous system can serve as a basis for studying the possibilities of the direct influence of EMFs on specific functions of CNS,” read an article in Nauka (Science) magazine in 1982. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/misc/quote_icon.png

[Hervé]

Of course, the "British" have nothing to do with it... hummmm... although... what's THIS:



[...]
Sunday, December 22, 2013

BATTLE TO COVER-UP CHILD ABUSE AND MURDER (http://www.aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/battle-to-cover-up-child-abuse-and.html)


[...]

What links Edward Snowden, Julian Assange and the former head of Britain's spy service MI5?

Jonathan Evans, the former boss of MI5, was a pupil at the expensive Sevenoaks School in the UK.


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Sir Jonathan Evans


Sarah Harrison, who led Edward Snowden to Moscow, was a pupil at Sevenoaks School.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MBCi5VlY4_w/UqQ0uaO6s4I/AAAAAAABBgc/gT0Xl6RN27k/s200/Sarah+Harrison+Snowden.jpg


Snowden and Harrison


Sarah Harrison, of the spooky Wikileaks, is said to be a former lover of Julian Assange.

Sarah Harrison is currently living in spooky Berlin.


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Assange and Harrison


The late Gerd Sommerhoff, who sexually abused boys, was a teacher at Sevenoaks school.

Sommerhoff worked at the spooky BBC and in spooky Cambridge, and, like Jimmy Savile, was given a knighthood.


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Gerd Sommerhoff


Some of the above people may secretly be assets of Mossad, the CIA and MI5/MI6.


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Sir John Sawers


Sir John Sawers, the current boss of MI6, is a former parent at Sevenoaks.

The UK's security services are reported to have run child brothels as a way of entertaining and blackmailing top people from cabinet ministers to foreign diplomats.

A former top UK cabinet minister was photographed attending a child sex abuse orgy, according to the Sunday Mirror and investigative news website Exaro. (http://www.exaronews.com/)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ex-tory-cabinet-minister-caught-2903907#ixzz2msygfHzp

This was one of a series of orgies organised by Sidney Cooke, who murdered a young boy called Jason Swift in 1984.



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Jason Swift, one of many children believed to have been taken from government children's homes to sex abuse parties.


Some of the orgies are believed to have been attended by Sir Jimmy Savile and by Sir Cyril Smith.

Some of the children involved are believed to have been ­trafficked to Holland by Cooke’s gang.

The former cabinet minister had been photographed by police in 1986 entering a property where one of the sex parties was being held.


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Sidney Cooke, whose pedophile ring has been linked to up to 20 child murders. In 1998, Cooke was let out of prison eight years early.



A former police officer, who worked on Operation Orchid which convicted Cooke and his gang, claimed they had taken pictures of the minister, and, that 16 members of an alleged VIP paedophile ring were due to be arrested.

But the day before the arrests were to be carried out, detectives were told the operation had been disbanded.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ex-tory-cabinet-minister-caught-2903907#ixzz2msy4QhYY

Peter Power, who was also 'involved in' the London Bombings of 7/7

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So... what are these leaks that haven't been leaked? Leaks-to-be to blackmail the blackmailers?