Do People Really Want The Truth?

[bogeyman]

If someone has the truth about a incident, event or some other information, do people want the truth, or just their belief according to their point of view or what they see as evidence?

It has often been the case if someone puts a great deal of time an effort in trying to prove something they will defend it more vigorously regardless. But then would many recognize the truth even if it was before them?

With the way the world is at present a great deal is distorted or twisted to fit a certain angle or belief. This can be deliberate or to fit in with what they believe the mass audience should believe.

[Becky]

I posted something on this just yesterday on a different thread here. I'll post it again now as it's relevant to your question...

I was round at a friends house today she showed me this book she's reading at the moment called the Book of Dharma; making enlightened choices by Simon Haas. This one page is very relevant to what was discussed about Truth....

"We are actually creatures of Truth, we recognize Truth when we encounter it, just as we know when we are awake that we are awake. the more we live in accord with Truth, the more easily we also recognize untruth when we come upon it. Why is Truth so potent? Truth does not need to be sustained in any way; it sustains itself. Thus, if we can build our life on Truth, the life we build will be upheld by the Universe itself. it requires no additional effort on our part.

We can kick Truth about as much as we like and it won't bend out of shape. Winston Churchill put it well; 'The truth is incontrovertible. Panic may resent it, ignorance may deride it, malice may distort it, but it is there'.

The lies we tell ourselves, by contrast, are brittle and fragile. They are vulnerable to being shattered at any time. Maintaining the requires a lot of hard work. No matter how much we try to fix or plaster over the cracks of falsehood, new cracks always keep emerging somewhere.

Allegiance to Truth leads to perfection in the domain of existence, the field of what is. The I Ching affirms this same wisdom: 'It is only when we have the courage to face things exactly as they are, without any sort of self-deception or illusion, that a light will develop out of events, by which the path to success may be recognized.' "

[ghostrider]

If someone has the truth about a incident, event or some other information, do people want the truth, or just their belief according to their point of view or what they see as evidence?

It has often been the case if someone puts a great deal of time an effort in trying to prove something they will defend it more vigorously regardless. But then would many recognize the truth even if it was before them?

With the way the world is at present a great deal is distorted or twisted to fit a certain angle or belief. This can be deliberate or to fit in with what they believe the mass audience should believe.

We don't want truth , we just want validation of what we already believe ...

[ghostrider]

One day Et will land and tell you , everything you want to know , you already know, you just don't believe it ... eyes to see but do not see , ears to hear but do not hear ...

[Shezbeth]

I for one consciously want truth, and I (sometimes feverishly) pursue it to the degree I am able with the literal and spiritual tools I have at my disposal.

People however,... I am not so sure. The overwhelming majority - in my experience - claims to want truth but expends more effort in trying to be right; Being right and knowing truth are different things, the former being a matter of perception in the mind of the individual and/or observer.

Without (yet) touching the potential ET element, how many people want the truth about the nefarious nature of government? About admiralty vs. common law? About GMOs, Organic Food, Vitamins and Supplements, HFCS Sodas and other aspects of dietary phenomenon? Again in my experience, one can deliberately wait until someone else asks about such things, and for the most part the person will listen to what is said, but only for purpose of retort, and in the overwhelming majority of cases that retort is with derisive humor because the information does not fit into the neat little package that is their preconceived notions and ideas.

Simply, if the information isn't simple, easy, and does not contest any of the person's preconceptions it is wrong, and after talking to one (me) who has a different perspective the practice is to go around and get as many 'contemporary/consistent' opinions that the individual feels comfortable that not only am I incorrect but in the gross minority. I got into a conversation about Hospitals and antibiotic-resistant bacterial infections at a company Christmas party and literally watched the guy go and have a similar (but 'normal') conversation with a couple other people until the guy was all smiles again.

However.

I have also observed the phenomenon of credulous simplicity, where a person SO wants the truth that they will assimilate the information without any critical analysis.

Simply, a person will want to explore the subject of ETs (or others subjects), and will naturally gravitate toward individuals, sources, groups, etc. that claim to posses such information.

The information is often times unverifiable or untestable,...

For 12 billion years the ancestors of the plejaren have spread throughout the universe bringing the spiritual teaching [...]
and moreover, we as finite human organisms lack the technological equipment/capacity (unrefined bodies) to view the full spectrum of light and density levels.

So no, I do not think people really want the truth. Perhaps they want to approach the truth, or perhaps just a perception of truth.

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[GreenGuy]

Many people do not want truth. Everyone seeks validation.

[Becky]

Thanks for posting those pictures, Shezbeth - they are amazing!

[Starryeyed]

Yes absolutely validation to what I feel already to be true.

[Magnus]

We all have beliefs based on our understanding of the knowledge that are available to us.

In my view, most people want the truth, while some people aren't sufficiently developed to be able to process any higher truth given to them.

Others simply choose to favor their comfort zone, regardless of the potential carried by the information, possibly due to ego, agony or fear of the unknown.

There are probably nearly as many variations and answers to the truth dilemma as there are people, which make the question very suitable for debate.

Personally I find it essential to constantly reevaluate my current beliefs in order to advance. New truths doesn't scare me the least, on the contrary, it's what i don't know that scares me a great deal. My motto has always been: "Rather an upsetting truth than a devastating lie".

[Arak]

No. Common people do not want the truth. They want everything remain the way that everything is and was. Above anything most people are afraid of change.

[jounai]

99,99...% of the human population doesn't want to realize the truth about ourselves. :) The paradox is that once truth is wished for; truth is already here. We awake to that truth is always here...truth never comes or goes; it just is. :)

[Etherios]

No. Common people do not want the truth. They want everything remain the way that everything is and was. Above anything most people are afraid of change.

i think to some ... this is true. But the majority of the "Common" people (not sure what you mean by that) dont have the time to think about this ... they have more important things to worry about. Food? Work? Family? Sickness?

There are so many things that effect us that the time to think about "bigger" issues just doesnt exist ...

So you cant expect someone to want or not something he has never had the time to think about. The actual thought is so big that they just discard it as nonexistent so they can save thinking time for other things. Provide a stable society, economy, peace, freedom and then you will see the majority of the people will actually want the truth ... and realize all that we have realized long ago.

And thats why the elites create so many problems and make us only think about survival.

[rgray222]

I think that people say they want the truth but in actual fact they live in their own reality and most people do not have the nerve or the courage to face a different, true reality. As a result many people passively deny the truth. When you get right down to it, people do not want to shatter their reality, even if life is not pleasant for them they have found a way to accept their lot in life.

On the other hand there are people who believe in different realities.

An example: some people really believe in God, they live their lives differently than most of us, everything they do revolves around this strongly held belief. It is easy to see and easy to identify, they are different from most other people.

Another example that hits closer to home: I really believe in UFOs because I have seen one up close, you would never know that I have this belief but if you engaged me in a discussion about, UFOs, the universe, God, the government you are likely to get into a discussion very different than you would with most other people.

The sad fact is that most people go through their lives without ever looking or considering the truth but at the same time thinking that their reality is their truth. It is simply the case of perception becoming reality.

There are those that "want" to believe and there are those that "really" believe. The difference between these two groups is huge. There are only a few who "really" believe!

[GreenGuy]

The thing is, finding the truth requires work, which is something most folks avoid in favor of entertainment and consumerism. Then, learning the truth requires adjusting one's perceptions and beliefs which not only requires more work, but also requires stepping well outside one's comfort zone. Most people spend as much effort finding excuses not to deal with it as they would exploring and growing.

A perfect example is health. The only way I know to become healthy and stay that way into old age is to learn about nutrition, what's in most commercial foodstuffs, and to grow as much of one's own food as possible. It can require travel to farms or farmers markets, and a good deal of study. All of this requires effort. It's so much easier to eat the boxed, processed foods, and take the pills and shots pushed by the medical/chemical industries. This is a superficial outline of the issue but the main points are correct. People make themselves sick by believing what advertisers tell them and by failing to do their own research.

Another area is politics. People do not wish to accept the fact that virtually all politicians are sociopathic, vampiric criminals whose main agenda is self-enrichment, because it would require doing something about it. This in turn would interfere with entertainment and consumerism. It also requires accepting responsibility for our failure to regulate our own government - which is exactly what the founding fathers predicted would happen if citizens failed to remain vigilant.

So, no....I don't think most people want any more truth than is necessary on their plate. They'd rather believe religious myths, eat stuff that looks like food but isn't, and pretend their doctors give a sh*t about keeping them healthy. In the end, all those inconvenient truths will roll over us like a tsunami, and the world will be a very different place.

[Shezbeth]

No. Common people do not want the truth. They want everything remain the way that everything is and was. Above anything most people are afraid of change. - Arak

But the majority of the "Common" people (...) dont have the time to think about this ... they have more important things to worry about. Food? Work? Family? Sickness? - Etherios

I think that people say they want the truth but in actual fact they live in their own reality and most people do not have the nerve or the courage to face a different, true reality. - rgray222

The thing is, finding the truth requires work, which is something most folks avoid in favor of entertainment and consumerism. - GreenGuy

Almost as though the statements are from the same mind in a way. I have to qualify that when I refer to masses, common people, etc. I am referring to the US variety as I lack experience with others.

Having said that, I agree with every statement quoted here except for Etherios', (and only slightly disagree on that). I agree that the intent behind the PTB's machinations is to distract/misguide people as much as possible, but I wholly contest the idea that people don't have the time, and GreenGuy was kind enough to sum it up for me with his quote.

I don't come from an affluent family and my income is inextensive; Just to give you an idea I can't even afford to buy holiday presents for my significant or my family. Admittedly, that is largely because the majority of my/our food is organic (or less heinous if not).

And yet, I have the time and opportunity to continue to educate myself, expose myself to new ideas, ways of thinking, critical analysis of what I have accepted before, etc. Make no mistake, I am worried, fixated, and determined to ensure my survival, and yet I still have plenty of time to seek a greater understanding. It's NOT a lack of time, resources, or available attention. It is a matter of how that time, resources, and available attention are invested.

Was the ability/want to ask questions or look deeper or whatever the only difference a you or an I have from those masses? I suppose it is possible, I wouldn't rule it out certainly, but in my experience the majority is entirely focused on anything but what would be otherwise conducive to the increasing standards of society or their situation.

How many people (% of US population) are aware that the Federal Reserve is a private bank, even though countless books, articles, videos, et al have been written and produced in the last 100 years it has been around? How many people know what that means to the world economy?

Conversely,....

How many people know (and have plenty to say) about this whole Duck Dynasty crap? Jersey Shore? American Idol? Xbox1? Iphone# whatever it is now?

[bogeyman]

It also depends on whether people can deal with the truth, some people can still be in denial even when faced with it. Its like their psychological make up cannot cope with it.

[STR]

If someone has the truth about a incident, event or some other information, do people want the truth, or just their belief according to their point of view or what they see as evidence?

It has often been the case if someone puts a great deal of time an effort in trying to prove something they will defend it more vigorously regardless. But then would many recognize the truth even if it was before them?

With the way the world is at present a great deal is distorted or twisted to fit a certain angle or belief. This can be deliberate or to fit in with what they believe the mass audience should believe.

Rarely does the truth ever set anyone free! It seems to me it just pisses most people off to be perfectly honest.

[korgh]

I have observed that most people are uncomfortable. I would even say that they are afraid and therefore almost angry. I think it's a form of self-defense, almost a pre-programmed reaction.
When I tried it a long time ago, to expose the truth of the facts to my wife, she was very disturbed and changed the conversation.
Interestingly, one day we were in the car and suddenly both of us saw the same thing: a small object in the sky at great speed, very bright at low altitude. It was a blue sky, and the object appeared from nowhere and disappears again, like going through a door and going out another ..
I asked to her: did you see? and she replied: I saw .. and nothing else.
Later, confessed that whenever she passes by this place, has radio interference in the signal.
She never spoke on the subject after that, but she pays attention when i discuss some subjects "more delicates" about the truth of facts.
It has been a long journey and i have to be patient :)

[greybeard]

I think you could say "Its an inconvenient Truth"
I talk to people about the dangers of cell phones--some are in acceptance of this, most will not change what they do.
The router in the home kills any plant put near it.
The engineer who instaled it said its best to leave it on 24 hours a day or it looses some ability--wonder who told him that!!!
There is enough scientific evidence on this one to convince anyone who is open to it.
Few are open to change anything in their life regardless of evidence.
Thanks for the thread
Chris

[greybeard]

My wife has Lupus, high blood pressure, and diabetes.
I got excited about a video I found on acid Ph being the cause of these conditions and how to cure these.
Got a deaf ear---would not even watch the video.
She trusts the medical profession--the number of tablets she takes is considerable.

Im a bit sad about it but there is not much I can do unforunately.
I have modified my own diet --ordered a water filter-- got minerals suggested.
Only hope to "set an example".

Chris

[korgh]

Many people do not want truth. Everyone seeks validation.

I think it is not about the truth validation.
When someone validates something, makes an acceptance based on their own knowledge. If the truth is exposed to someone who does not have the background to accept something that goes against their beliefs or principles, will never be validated. You can not validate what you do not know.
Even with irrefutable facts.
I believe that most people are afraid to find out that what they believed to be true was actually an illusion. Thus, the first reaction of these people are of discomfort, insecurity, fear and so on.

[Jake]

I want the truth... I have shed many layers, and sacrificed deep beliefs in order to embrace truth... It is not easy, sometimes. Many times Truth is devastating... TRUTH is not biased by who BELIEVES it.,, It will always remain the truth.... Truth can be empowering/devastating,,, Wonderful/Terrible,,, Joyful/depressing,,, uplifting/downtrodden....

I want the truth. The commitment to truth comes with a commitment to always challenge yourself as to what is a BELIEF vs what it a KNOWN. One must always be willing to shed away a false belief,, in the face of truth,,, and this requires a bit of humility... I have wept uncontrollably while I (literally) watched the mechanisms of what I knew to be true,,, completely melt away as I embraced a new experience,, or KNOWN...

I also want validation.... I have found that it comes at a great price... There are no fixed points and no straight lines. There are no perfect spheres. Space is curved and time is relative... No matter can exist without a point of observation!!!

I have learned that EVERy time I feel that I have a lock on the truth,,,, the universe reminds me that I DO NOT!!!!!


My flesh and blood brother is a Rush Limbaugh Republican from Alabama!!! Enough said!!! He is very locked into a belief system,,, and will defend it at any cost... (recently disowned me over a discussion about lawyers and Obamacare) I was able to show him things that he had never seen, and would never hear on Premier Radio Networks (voice actors and set-up calls,,, btw..) He never read a single line, or bothered to hear what I had to say... Somehow I AM IGNORANT FOR KNOWING SOMETHING THAT HE DOESNT..... Not the other way around??? He thinks that I worship Alex Jones. (giggle cccc) He truly believes that, because he gets his information from Limbaugh,,, that I MUST get my info from Alex Jones.... (I don't like, or dislike Alex Jones....)

So here it is... I want the truth... My brother does NOT..... Now,,,,, My brother tells others that he no longer has a brother!!!!!!!!! Do you see how that worked?????

We are divided at heart.... In our quest for truth,,,, there will be casualties. I cannot, nor will I soon,, be able to embrace my brother, or talk to him... I will not turn my back on truth,, nor will I ever stop loving my brother. We have a RESPONSIBILITY to others!!! I know that folks may not have ever looked at it like this,, but it is true. We have to push forward no matter what!!! This is my opinion. Truth is relative to the observer, many times. But the type of things we discuss here at Avalon are the kinds of Truth that will become relevant in the future.... We cannot pull back... we must push forward.

There are many more aspects to the concept of truth than I will add... I digress.

Excellent topic.
Jake

[korgh]

@Jake

Is a hard road to search for the truth and bring it up.
You put all very clear and in a crude way but sincere. That's the right way how this works.
Some people will see you as a threat, others just no more will talking with you.
Others will just avoid you.
I felt the same but i dont gave up. I have the conscience that i'm not alone.
You are not alone too.

Cheers

[AwakeSinceChildhood]

I would say.... not always; not everyone!

For instance, did you ask your wife if she was interested in the information you obtained? I'm suggesting that you assumed she would want it because you assume that everyone would want to get better. I have not found this to be true. People learn at their own rate and when they are ready. Many people will be very interested in what you have to say that could make them better, but still do nothing.

Some people enjoy the many benefits that come with the victim mentality. For example, I finally took the time to send my cousin a summary email about the health findings that I thought she would be interested in to help with her MS as I am researching for my auto-immune illnesses. No reply - no acknowledgement - nothing. I understand she has always been a person who thrives on being a victim and know that is probably why I haven't heard from her.

My experience is the majority of people don't want to grow through truth; they are comfortable where they are and that is where they will stay until they decide to awaken.

We can offer the truth, but it is up to each person to decide whether they will accept it or remain where they are.

What a loving husband you are to want to provide information that could be helpful. You are very special.

[Alexander]

Good question.

The prophets of old were stoned, Jesus was crucified, Confucius was ignored, Gandhi was shot, JFK was assassinated in front of the world and they were lied to about who did it(and many bought it), 9-11, and so on.

No, most people do not want the truth, but there may be some change however slowly.

[pugwash84]

We have all searched high and low and at times been amazed and other times been disappointed but it has all been in pursuit of the truth, be it the truth we like or not. The truth shall set us free! xxxxx

[gripreaper]

I was sitting at dinner with two of my brothers in law (superbowl weekend), with two of my sisters sitting there, and they were going on about some candidates in the Senate and House who would be great for furthering the liberal agenda and I emphatically reared up and said, in a very firm tone:

Would you guys please stop it with the whole left/right paradigm? There is no representative government, the United States is bankrupt and in receivership and has been since 1933, everything has been pledged to the banksters including you, and you own nothing and have no power to do anything.

Boy did the room get silent pretty quick. They both looked at me like I was a Dragon with three heads and then changed the subject to the Super Bowl.

[Milneman]

Many people do not want truth. Everyone seeks validation.

I think it is not about the truth validation.
When someone validates something, makes an acceptance based on their own knowledge. If the truth is exposed to someone who does not have the background to accept something that goes against their beliefs or principles, will never be validated. You can not validate what you do not know.
Even with irrefutable facts.
I believe that most people are afraid to find out that what they believed to be true was actually an illusion. Thus, the first reaction of these people are of discomfort, insecurity, fear and so on.

Or in other words, if what you believe to be true needs to be validated, you ain't in the presence of truth, brother. ;)

[Milneman]

Jake, I'd be proud to call you my brother starting today. Consider it true. ;)

I want the truth... I have shed many layers, and sacrificed deep beliefs in order to embrace truth... It is not easy, sometimes. Many times Truth is devastating... TRUTH is not biased by who BELIEVES it.,, It will always remain the truth.... Truth can be empowering/devastating,,, Wonderful/Terrible,,, Joyful/depressing,,, uplifting/downtrodden....

(Innate) oooh that's a terrifying and wonderful concept isn't it? ;)

I want the truth. The commitment to truth comes with a commitment to always challenge yourself as to what is a BELIEF vs what it a KNOWN. One must always be willing to shed away a false belief,, in the face of truth,,, and this requires a bit of humility... I have wept uncontrollably while I (literally) watched the mechanisms of what I knew to be true,,, completely melt away as I embraced a new experience,, or KNOWN...


This is one of them sticky ones that I keep trying to stick together, trying to figure out. And I keep seeing the word "innate" blocking me from going any further. There we go with that terrifying and wonderful sh*t again hey? ;)

I also want validation.... I have found that it comes at a great price... There are no fixed points and no straight lines. There are no perfect spheres. Space is curved and time is relative... No matter can exist without a point of observation!!!

I have learned that EVERy time I feel that I have a lock on the truth,,,, the universe reminds me that I DO NOT!!!!!

You know it. Dubito Ergo Sum.

My flesh and blood brother is a Rush Limbaugh Republican from Alabama!!! Enough said!!! He is very locked into a belief system,,, and will defend it at any cost... (recently disowned me over a discussion about lawyers and Obamacare) I was able to show him things that he had never seen, and would never hear on Premier Radio Networks (voice actors and set-up calls,,, btw..) He never read a single line, or bothered to hear what I had to say... Somehow I AM IGNORANT FOR KNOWING SOMETHING THAT HE DOESNT..... Not the other way around??? He thinks that I worship Alex Jones. (giggle cccc) He truly believes that, because he gets his information from Limbaugh,,, that I MUST get my info from Alex Jones.... (I don't like, or dislike Alex Jones....)

So here it is... I want the truth... My brother does NOT..... Now,,,,, My brother tells others that he no longer has a brother!!!!!!!!! Do you see how that worked?????

We are divided at heart.... In our quest for truth,,,, there will be casualties. I cannot, nor will I soon,, be able to embrace my brother, or talk to him... I will not turn my back on truth,, nor will I ever stop loving my brother. We have a RESPONSIBILITY to others!!! I know that folks may not have ever looked at it like this,, but it is true. We have to push forward no matter what!!! This is my opinion. Truth is relative to the observer, many times. But the type of things we discuss here at Avalon are the kinds of Truth that will become relevant in the future.... We cannot pull back... we must push forward.



Jake one of the hardest parts of Truth (capital T) is realizing that people will come to understand it, or they won't, and it's not anyone's fault right? People who say it's subjective crack me up...usually because they have objective skeletons in their closets they have to look at subjectively.

There's this other bothersome word that works hand in hand with truth, and nobody has time for it or thinks it's as important as it is:

Patience.

Someone today pointed out to me that they knew in a recent situation here on the forum I was putting myself, by my compassion, in possible harm's way. Yup, I saw the situation through my own eyes and no matter how anyone tried to convince me otherwise, I was sure that given the right attitude with the right method and patient persistence, I could really help someone. And then a couple of weeks went by, I started to see the situation for the way it really was, and my eyes started to open up and I had the a-ha moment you've talked about. In addiction, especially in addiction, truth is just something you can bend. Subjectivists out there, can you bend this? 1+1=2 I tell you! There are no possible universes where that can be false. None. The ones that may be claimed as to be are not true universes.

I put myself out on the stick. Throw tomatoes as ye will. If you are in the presence of a proposition you know is basic, and true, you are in possession of knowledge that exists in God's mind, and are therefore thinking God's thoughts after God.

Think about that! That's pretty cool! And kind of scarey!

But it also means that anyone, anyone at all, who is in the presence of error will eventually by their own beliefs come to an understanding that they are in fact in error, and modulate their beliefs to what is basic, and innate, and true.

Or not.

Maybe I'm crazy. That's possible too!

I'd still take you as my brother any day, Jake.

[Chester]

Grip - I still go through those same instances. Lately, for the most part because I have gotten sick of the frustration that ensues, I have somehow (mostly) been able to bite my tongue when ignorance abounds. Yet, just last week I went hard on my 20 year old son (the one who is has so far escaped 10 years in prison) over his hard core Christian beliefs when I saw instances that what he espoused he would contradict either in his actions or words he would quote from the same resource at another time.

He has recently moved back in with me.

I asked him to promise to do two things if I helped him this one last time.

a.) Absolutely no drugs or alcohol ever and

b.) take the red pill. He agreed.

The red pill, this was the first Red Pill (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30323-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.) I gave him -

I then showed him the Gospel of Thomas and informed him of the Gnostics and how the message and life of the man Jesus had been hijacked, etc.

I then hope to have the opportunity to get him to the materials posted by observer - and that he pay close attention to the threads of "Vivek" - Jeffrey and posts by Amzer Zo. This is the second Red Pill.

Finally when the time is right I hope that he will carefully read Bill's thread on the real Jesus, Mary, Gnosis and the Archons
(http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?61859-The-real-Jesus-the-real-Mary-Gnosis-the-Archons-and-the-world-s-first-major-smear-campaign)

A few days ago he mentioned to me he had read the Gospel of Thomas and he found much similarities between some of this gospel with the four canonized gospels (which was his indication to me he was opening his mind). He admitted there were some statements that made no sense to him and some that appeared to have a metaphysical implication which he thought he might not understand fully, etc. But the door has indeed been cracked open.

As an oddsmaker (thus coming from the analytical mind) I make the odds low that us Topsiders make it through and are able to move into what I call Human 3.0 (based on what I learned from Eckhart Tolle) which has nothing to do with the superman 2.0.

If I did not have my wife and stepdaughter and three sons who benefit from me being here in Texas, I would be in Ecuador with that crew.

[Chester]

to Jake and Milneman - realize all form is illusion then that dilemma melts away.

[Milneman]

But doesn't that mean illusion is also form? (I'm sorry! I'm really, really sensitive to ideas that lead to skepticism.)

I know where you're going. But back up. The dilemma isn't with form. It's with illusion.

Who was it that said, I refute it thus! and stubbed his toe on the ground....


....or perhaps when Margaret Fuller said "I accept the universe." I forget who it was who responded with "Good grief, I didn't realize it had been offered to her!" ;)