1st extinction event: Leaked CERN documents state LHC has 70% chances to produce stra

[Swami]

Abstract. We have received and will show in this article astonishing documents leaked out of CERN internal servers, about the CASTOR project, a Centauro and STrangelet Object Research to hunt for strangelets ‘likely‘ to be produced at the LHC.

According to those internal documents CERN has been lying for years to the press and in the suits, since it always affirmed that it won’t produce the ultra-dangerous, ultradense ‘strangelets’, the liquid explosive made of up, down and strange quarks, responsible of the ice-9 reactions that cause supernovas (below’s graph).

In those documents CERN affirms there is a 65-70% of chances of producing negative strangelets, which according to standard science on strangelets today, will provoke the ice-9 reaction (name taken from Cat and Cradle’s book in which a physicist destroys the world throwing a new type of water that freezes the planet, since an ice-9 reaction will condensate the planet in a 15 kilometers ultra-dense strange star).


No Con-Cern Mr. Deacon.......??

[Beth]

Swami, do you have a link?

[Deega]

Swami, do you have a link?

Hi Beth,

Here is a link that I found accidentally today.

http://www.cerntruth.com/?p=125

Interesting, I don't have further information, but, it seem dangerous enough, creation of strangelets that could bring problems to Earth....!, not conforting...!

Swami, do you have other information than the link herein...?

All my blessings.

Deega

[Swami]

Sorry, I forgot the link, not my style normally....

Nope, this is all I have. I do not have con-cerns.......... yet

As long as TPB are on planet Earth they wont create a black hole which sucks us up.........

I have got info from somebody thoo, that this Cern-thing could explain a lot of "balls of light" in the skies.......
I cant find a link or any info backing this, so I'll keep it for myself.....
Whoops, I just said it........:jaw:

It seems that the explanation of Mr. Deacon saying there was no Con-cern was abit out of line.....
Anyone remembers that...?

[Beth]

Thanks Deega, gonna check it out!

[Samson]

half the urban survival daily news was filled with this topic today 7 october http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

[Swami]

half the urban survival daily news was filled with this topic today 7 october http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

You are fast my friend, wanted to keep that as ammo for later............:thumb:

[CetaceousOne]

"They" have shut down the LHC before. They can and will do it again if necessary.

[steve_a]

Hi Samson & Swami,

I'm not all that worried about the CERN project as if anything does go wrong, we all will probably know very little about it. We could all b gone in an instance. :)

However, I thought the other articles on Urban Survival more interesting, about the world economy, especially about the probable collapse of the US$ and British Pound as I'm looking to buy something in the UK which will be a fundamental part in a project that I am planning to carry out in a couple of years. I think I need to wait and see what happens over the next couple of months before I part with my cash! I could get more bang for my buck in a couple of months time, so I'll keep my ear to the ground in respect to the economy.

What I'm trying to say is that if the Earth were to explode in the morning, there is nothing we can do about it, so why worry? Let's concentrate on the things that will make life interesting...... while we can.

Best regards,

Steve

[Swami]

Hi Samson & Swami,

I'm not all that worried about the CERN project as if anything does go wrong, we all will probably know very little about it. We could all b gone in an instance. :)

However, I thought the other articles on Urban Survival more interesting, about the world economy, especially about the probable collapse of the US$ and British Pound as I'm looking to buy something in the UK which will be a fundamental part in a project that I am planning to carry out in a couple of years. I think I need to wait and see what happens over the next couple of months before I part with my cash! I could get more bang for my buck in a couple of months time, so I'll keep my ear to the ground in respect to the economy.

What I'm trying to say is that if the Earth were to explode in the morning, there is nothing we can do about it, so why worry? Let's concentrate on the things that will make life interesting...... while we can.

Best regards,

Steve

You transmit a cool vibe Steve, I like that.....:thumb:

[onawah]

If the ETs are preventing us from blowing the planet up with bombs, I think they surely must be keeping an eye on CERN as well.
Just another big, expensive toy in the hands of very unwise children, as far as I can see.

[Lost Soul]

Instead of hoping that some ET would intervene, we should all visualize that thing breaking down and the project being scrapped as a waste of time and money.

[Steven]

I have found a site that seems to be informative on the topic : http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/

I haven't search much, nor read all of these, too late and tired, but you can find:

Some articles and letters about the danger for strangelets and MBH ; http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/forum.htm

Articles on both views, those suggesting their might be a dangerous risk and others suggesting there is no problem ; http://www.risk-evaluation-forum.org/links.htm

Some papers are .pdf downloadable.

I'll comeback after some reading.

Edit: Here is the CERN Safety point of view ; http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/lhc/safety-en.html

Here is the "Strangelets, strangeness and antimatter: results from the experiment NA52 at CERN" paper, for what's its worth, it comes from CERN ; http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/855729/files/hep2001-249.pdf

Here is "Strangelets, Nuclearites, Q-balls—A Brief Overview", from CERN also ; http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1007824/files/0612740.pdf

Namaste, Steven

[Humble Janitor]

I assume that with disclosure quietly unfolding, that the LHC will be not be immune to criticism and interference from other entities.

[Rocky_Shorz]

The Large Hadron Collider has successfully created a "mini-Big Bang" by smashing together lead ions instead of protons.

The scientists working at the enormous machine on Franco-Swiss border achieved the unique conditions on 7 November.

The experiment created temperatures a million times hotter than the centre of the Sun.

full story (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11711228)

[Ahkenaten]

I can't help but feel bemused: if benevolent ETs are meddling/intervening in human/earth affairs, short-circuiting nuclear launch computers, frying rockets, etc. as we have been told then why don't they intervene in our economic system where help is really needed?! Obviously we the sheeple haven't been able to secure our release from this insidiously destructive invention/trap - if the ETs actually care about human beings and are actually advanced highly intelligent beings capable of understanding the threat of unfettered human aggression and able to take decisive action to short-circuit our aggressions because of their concerns for us - then why haven't they intervened on the economic front where as much danger lurks?

It would appear if it is true that ETs have stopped missile systems that their concern was not merely for humans ......

[lightblue]

It would appear if it is true that ETs have stopped missile systems that their concern was not merely for humans ......


stands as a strong probability... thanks for the remark.. :clap2: l


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[Ross]

Interesting info tho some ready know this:

Take just one example: ATLAS, which is one of the big experiments built for the LHC. A mass of particle detectors is packed into an assembly that weighs 7000 tonnes in all. ATLAS is one of the largest collaborative efforts ever attempted in the physical sciences.

There are 1800 physicists (including 400 students) participating from more than 150 universities and laboratories in 35 countries: Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Brazil, Canada, China, Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Israel, Italy, Japan, Morocco, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Turkey, UK, USA CERN and JINR.

And the physicists taking part are supported by a large number of high-level technicians and engineers. This obviously requires a high level of organisation, while still giving everyone the chance to make their views heard. In total there are around 8000 people working on this project and associated projects...and they are very clever people...just to put things into perspective.


Where the web was born

Tim Berners-Lee, a scientist at CERN, invented the World Wide Web (WWW) in 1989. The Web was originally conceived and developed to meet the demand for automatic information sharing between scientists working in different universities and institutes all over the world.

CERN is not an isolated laboratory, but rather a focus for an extensive community that now includes about 60 countries and about 8000 scientists. Although these scientists typically spend some time on the CERN site, they usually work at universities and national laboratories in their home countries. Good contact is clearly essential.

The basic idea of the WWW was to merge the technologies of personal computers, computer networking and hypertext into a powerful and easy to use global information system.

A massive project!


Regards

Ross

[Rocky_Shorz]

I was online at MIT in 86-87... ;)

[Ross]

I was online at MIT in 86-87... ;)

My above post was the birth of WWW


You were online in 86-87due to this:

Around Labor Day in 1969, BBN delivered an Interface Message Processor (IMP) to UCLA that was based on a Honeywell DDP 516, and when they turned it on, it just started running. It was hooked by 50 Kbps circuits to two other sites (SRI and UCSB) in the four-node network: UCLA, Stanford Research Institute (SRI), UC Santa Barbara (UCSB), and the University of Utah in Salt Lake City.


The plan was unprecedented: Kleinrock, a pioneering computer science professor at UCLA, and his small group of graduate students hoped to log onto the Stanford computer and try to send it some data.They would start by typing "login," and seeing if the letters appeared on the far-off monitor.

"We set up a telephone connection between us and the guys at SRI...," Kleinrock ... said in an interview: "We typed the L and we asked on the phone,

"Do you see the L?"
"Yes, we see the L," came the response.
"We typed the O, and we asked, "Do you see the O."
"Yes, we see the O."
"Then we typed the G, and the system crashed"...

Yet a revolution had begun"...

Ok back on topic...

[shiva777]

if you are going to post a topic that says "Re: 1st extinction event: Leaked CERN documents state LHC has 70% chances to produce" then it would make sense that you at least read the documents,provide the link and research wether the documents are in anyway real...

[Anchor]

Instead of hoping that some ET would intervene, we should all visualize that thing breaking down and the project being scrapped as a waste of time and money.

Bravo! and that is just what I used to do that daily. However, recently I modified my approach, since I was counselled to ensure I used a positive language representation of my intent. Now I use a thought which maps to the following "All man-made devices, plans and experiments designed to cause changes in scientific knowledge, the Earth or the atmosphere and/or climate can only function for the highest and best good of all"

It is implicit then that other kinds of use will fail, however in saying it like this I avoid using my own destructive tendencies - as say using fire to fight fire.

Just a thought to add to the mix ....

[Fredkc]

Ahkenaten;
It would appear if it is true that ETs have stopped missile systems that their concern was not merely for humans ......
Very cool notion.
When you consider that ET's may also be ED's, or the two synonymous, then add one more thing, this concern may be genuine, tho not necessarily about us.

Perhaps what exists is an overlay of universes in 'other dimensions'. That may only share one or two with us, the others beyond our sight.

what's the connection? Well, the observed, and measured behavior of 'dark matter' though its existence is still 'theoretical'. You see while 'unseen' it does have affects upon, and is affected by both electromagnetic events, and gravity in this universe.

This would explain why we in this universe, setting off nuclear devices and other foolish things, might 'upset them'.

[sargeist]

a question i've never seen asked wrt to et/ed/ut shutting down nukes - why have 'they' only ever shut down/disrupted a relatively small amount of them, and only at a handful of specific sites?

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@fred - imo you could be on the right track there

[Operator]

I can't help but feel bemused: if benevolent ETs are meddling/intervening in human/earth affairs, short-circuiting nuclear launch computers, frying rockets, etc. as we have been told then why don't they intervene in our economic system where help is really needed?!

Why should they ? It only leads to corruption and fake power abuse. It should be broken down ... and we seem to do a pretty good job ourselves ...

[Bill Ryan]

Very cool notion.
When you consider that ET's may also be ED's, or the two synonymous, then add one more thing, this concern may be genuine, tho not necessarily about us.

Perhaps what exists is an overlay of universes in 'other dimensions'. That may only share one or two with us, the others beyond our sight.

what's the connection? Well, the observed, and measured behavior of 'dark matter' though its existence is still 'theoretical'. You see while 'unseen' it does have affects upon, and is affected by both electromagnetic events, and gravity in this universe.

This would explain why we in this universe, setting off nuclear devices and other foolish things, might 'upset them'.

Right. Henry Deacon told us back in 2006 that nuclear detonations created problems 'elsewhere' and also created 'rips in spacetime'.

Our financial system is a different matter: if you've agreed to a game of poker and are losing badly because the others guys round the table are pretty smart (and the game is rigged), the ETs will not necessarily intervene.

[Bill Ryan]

It seems that the explanation of Mr. Deacon saying there was no Con-cern was a bit out of line.....
Anyone remembers that...?

Yes, it was on the old forum. I enjoyed Henry's Con-CERN pun.

His point then was that nothing was being done at CERN that had not been done behind the scenes in black projects (Livermore, Los Alamos and elsewhere) 20 years ago.

The world hadn't ended then - and so it won't now either.

[Ahkenaten]

Hold on - I thought that the web was an invention of the military/Pentagon?!

[Ahkenaten]

Operator I was merely being provocative...........it seems to me that a screwy economic system is at least as dangerous as screwy "defense" systems and the two together, well need I say more.............................luckily the forces of entropy are hard at work nibbling right into the very guts of the economic system as we speak

[Rocky_Shorz]

Very cool notion.
When you consider that ET's may also be ED's, or the two synonymous, then add one more thing, this concern may be genuine, tho not necessarily about us.



from the expert I spoke with, he explained it like this...

imagine the ocean the waves slowly rolling up to shore at 3-4 MPH...

now imagine a large earthquake hitting causing a Tsunami...

the waves race across the ocean at 5-700MPH...

when it breaks 600, it doesn't cause a sonic boom and keeps racing outward from the plate shift...

the affect of this is measurable across dimensions...

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Hold on - I thought that the web was an invention of the military/Pentagon?!

the internet was online in 86 fully functional with MIT's complete library available to the military...

he is speaking of when the public gained access around the world...

[Ahkenaten]

Rocky thanks for the clarification