sigma6
27th December 2013, 08:42
"Let he who would be deceived, be deceived" - is a Roman (non Christian) maxim Is this the the BASIS of today’s statutory commercial legal system?
Roman matrix - 2000 years of Imperialism (coercion by deceit, intimidation, force)
(i.e. why we live in a world of utter and complete deception) these are samples of many presentations/interviews, as there are several of each, it is valuable to watch as many as you can, to get the best interpretation...
Pontifex Maximus:
From pontifex meaning "bridge-builder" (pons + facere); "maximus" meaning "greatest".
Original ... Also as an extension of the powers of the Roman Emperor.
To whom did pagan Rome give her authority and capital city?;
“To the succession of the Caesars came the succession of the Pontiffs in Rome. When Constantine left Rome he gave his seat to the Pontiff”
- [Libiance, Professor of History, University of Rome]
538 AD = World wide power of Papal Rome became official – Emperor Justinian decree no longer opposed, Official title of Pope – “Vicar of the Son of God”
“Sunday is our mark of Authority... the [Catholic] Church is above the bible, and this transference of the Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.
- Catholic Record (September 1, 1923)
"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth."
– Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXII, p. 218, “Cities petrus Bertanous”.
"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty"
- Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894,
"This judicial authority will even include the power to forgive sin."
– The Catholic Encyclopedia Vol xii, article “Pope” pg. 265
2 Thessalonians 2:4
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
"Fear, then, our wrath and the thunders of our vengeance; for Jesus Christ has appointed us [the popes] with his own mouth absolute judges of all men; and kings themselves are submitted to our authority."
- Pope Nicholas I (858-867 AD)
"…[that] the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood then any other institution that has ever existed among mankind, will be questioned by no Protestant who has a competent knowledge of history…"
- W.E.H. Lecky, History of the Rise and Influence of the Spirit of Rationalism in Europe, Vol. 2, pg 32, 1910
"For professing faith contrary to the teachings of the Church of Rome, history records the martyrdom of more then one hundred million people…"
- Brief Bible Readings, pg. 16
"On August 24, 1527, Roman Catholics in France, by prearranged plan, under Jesuit influence, murdered 70,000 Protestants within the space of two months. The Pope rejoiced when he heard the news of the successful outcome."
- Western Watchman, Nov.21,1912 (Catholic)
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate [revoke] laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts [laws] of Christ."
"The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ."
- Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris’ Ecclesiastical Dictionary
"The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changed… the Sabbath into Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by its own authority."
- Canon and Tradition, pg. 263
I don’t buy the Vatican as being representative of Christ. Who would boast they can change Christ’s own commands on public record? saying they can over rule the scriptures themselves? Their institutions are for profit corporations. I see a den of Satanic pederasts, predators, the highest bastion of evil on this planet, an institution of Organized Crime. People are waking have been lied to in EVERY facet of their lives, including corporate religious institutions. Elite and powerful interests have preyed for centuries on the gullibility of the ignorance masses. Karen Hudes, a 20 year lawyer for the World Bank, claims 60% of all income tax goes to the Vatican, and 40% to the Inner City of London. (gee, could that be why they don’t PAY taxes?)
This has nothing to do with spiritual reality. Quantum physics provides one of the best scientific models (apart from Eastern Philosophies?) Even the most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins, conceded this to Ben Stein within 5 minutes of a "debate" saying "...there was probably a supernatural designer..." and he, in fact admitted point blank, he DOESN'T have an explanation for the origin of the universe we live in! (huh?? true!!)
see Ben Stein vs Richard Dawkins interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc
This isn’t being pro-atheism, or materialism...(an inherently illogical premise and gross misrepresentation) Consider, we are taught to count protons and neutrons, the "material part (0.000001% yet ignore the other 99.9999% of the "space inside" the atom?
Independent researchers, scholars, authors and scientists are gathering information not readily available in the "Main Stream Media" Serious thinkers from many fields are starting to realize their compartmentalized specialization has left out relevant information available in other fields (and btw who compartmentalized it???) Even the Smithsonian Institute! is a "government funded" Institution that has hidden tens of thousands of artifacts from the public! The conclusion: we have been flat out lied to about science, history, archeological findings, education, the financial system, everything! EVERYTHING! And part of this is caused by the abuse and misuse of trusts. The "private side" of trust interpretation has been used to JUSTIFY LYING!! by suppressing information. It’s all about CONTROL (taking away your privacy and freedom indirectly as a by product) At the same time Trust "Law" (or interpretation) is thousands of years old, and at the same time has been largely removed from the public education system since the late 60’s. The entire "modern" education system has been manipulated since the beginning of the century...
see Hidden Agenda for a New World Government - Norman Dodd, G Edward Griffin interview -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM (52:32)
Secret Societies control 90% of all the governmental positions, Police, Fire Dept, Military, top admin staff of Universities and Hospitals have now brought this "Corporate Society" (Pyramid Scheme) They precipitate artificial disasters ON PURPOSE (according to a misguided Hegelian interpretation of order out of chaos, that they have hijacked to rationalize their own agenda, it’s just another front again!) The major premise of their membership is that one maintain secrets about what the truth is (Control of Distribution of Power) and withhold it from the 'public', under the guise they are doing all this for our benefit! Are they trying to tell us "lying" is noble? (or a fiduciary trust obligation?)... the very foundation of their creed is deception. These are the people that lord it over you, that live off your taxes... the Truth has to be lied about, for your benefit? because you are incompetent (a trust interpretation) Rationalization over being rational.
Perhaps we are to blame? Perhaps we need to wake up. (God helps those who help themselves) We are coming to a time of revelation, and that revelation is that we have been lied to. At the very least if you are going to keep working and slaving and giving all your energy (taxes), shouldn’t you at least be aware of who you are even giving it to? what they believe? how their system operates? Why do they feel so justified as to place themselves above us? And then to grind us under their boot? In a word... What is their claim to such superiority? (A philosophy of Roman Imperialism, now hidden within Hegelianism?) What is the philosophy of Imperialism? - physical, moral, intellectual, financial superiority? The will to power?...
This is a pragmatic interpretation, not necessarily just cynical, or about giving up your belief in "God", or to be less kind or giving or trusting... or less spiritual. It’s about seeking the truth, accepting the whole truth, no matter what it turns out to be. It is the TRUTH that is at issue. The simple hard facts. No one man or deity has a monopoly on TRUTH. NO ONE. It is up to each and every living being to exercise as much truth (as intention) as they can manifest, to the best of their ability. There is a Platonic principle, that knowledge is the remedy. Doesn’t "secrecy" by definition, create the beginning of the "Control of distribution of Knowledge"? In the spirit of sharing knowledge, I share the following... an ever expanding awareness (of the "rabbit hole") so vast, it both humbles and awes.
The following historical researchers and scholars have wide ranging interpretations, but if you combine altogether what is being said, in combination with everything else being shared here, I think you will have the ability to create an interpretation that answers many supposed 'mysteries' that should allow for an even wider interpretation. I find all research invariably points out, there is a clear agenda, to misinform the masses, that reaches to the highest levels, and goes back centuries, past the dark ages and as far back in recorded history as you can see.
We are still living in a more sophisticated version of the dark ages. However it is possible... that we are at the threshold, of a new awakening. A critical mass of truth seekers may be on the horizon. The internet may have never happened before.
It appears to be a technology the elites never even anticipated the full implications of, i.e. a distribution of all information to all points of contact in real time...
Please note all of these videos are just one sample of several available, I lost track which were the best, but by viewing more interviews of each researcher, you will get a wider perspective of what can be quite vast and expansive topics in and of themselves, these are complex arguments trying to tease out, in many cases, hidden or suppressed truths to begin with.
Dr Bart Ehrman - Misquoting Jesus - Historical analysis of original text regarding resurrection
(believes Jesus was real man, according to original existing bibles, says resurrection was added in Matthew, and archeological time frame as indicated by existing texts shows which areas these copies began to reproduce in... ie. mostly the Roman territories) also refers to a compilation of an astronomical number of errors in the bible, logical incompatibilities in original texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfheSAcCsrE (1:35:20)
Joseph Atwill - Caesar's Messiah - NT biblical text is constructed as literary typology
(assumes Jesus character fiction, but focuses mostly on literary exposition or style...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9ATGqLNo8 (1:53:47)
The Roman Empire’s turning point greatest turning point was when it destroyed the Temple of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Up to that point the Jews were a significant and growing threat to the Roman Empire. The destruction of their capital and temple created a "power vacuum" and the Romans saw an opportunity to both mock and further control the remaining Jewish populations and undermine their attempts at preaching their own message of a coming Messiah, who was, in their interpretation, a warrior like David, by replacing it with a 'counter propaganda campaign' of a Roman created 'Messiah' A more peace loving and self sacrificing servant of God, which was then superimposed upon the Roman Emperor himself, i.e. a massive propaganda campaign, a common practice of the Caesars, to associate themselves in the minds of their subjects as 'gods' (starting with Julius... )
also see Simcha Jacobovici - Secrets of Christianity - Selling Christianity (further confirmation to the "Roman propaganda" campaign argument)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOjZg9ux-kU (44:03)
Truthsurge’s (of Youtube) - Excavating The Empty Tomb - Based on the book by Dennis R McDonald - The Homeric Epics and The Gospel of Mark (assumes Jesus is fictional)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOzCMy9e5E&list=PL1D58C69D194384D2
Literary analysis is compelling and logical, but it is over interpreting as a proof against an "historical Jesus", he even mentions other historical references to Jesus as an Egyptian, something confirmed by other researchers (in this email) He draws on numerous parallels in the book of Mark, earliest of the 4 Gospels and Homer’s Odyssey 800 years prior. also it’s written as an "anonymous narrator" which creates logical problems as a "testimonial", which is then predictably addressed in "future versions" re: Matthew, Luke and John, as derivatives of Mark. Which only verifies the awareness of these "logical holes". "Improving" literature, by rewriting classics was a common practice, thus a similar argument to Atwill’s literary typology analysis, i.e. signs of literary style (fiction) "proves" Jesus must therefore be fictional is incorrect logic... (thus over interpreting, i.e. what if it was to 'hide' another history for example?) Truthsurge also references Bart Ehrman incorrectly, an authority on original text interpretation, since he unequivocally believes in a "historical Jesus"
Ralph Ellis - Cleopatra to Christ, Scota, Solomon & Sheba, Israelis originally Egyptians, The Hyksos Pharaohs as the 'Shepard Kings' (believes Jesus was a real man, explains who actual historical figure was... Royal Egyptian/Roman bloodline )
(Ellis admits to being a freemason)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BZMNhe0j4 (1:06:21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz-3fGiLwqk&list=PLC7BC7DE34A49CA66 (Series)
Tim Wallace Murphy (believes there was a historical Jesus)
Gardiners World -Tim Wallace-Murphy Rex Deus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLCO9YSc8JI (34:51)
Lectures on Hidden Wisdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GqXt33eGyc (1:18:58)
What can I say, this is some of the most profound stuff and goes along the lines of the Da Vinci code arguments, the holy grail symbolism, etc, but on a much more spiritual and profound level... (I need to study it some more... i.e. not enough lecture on too big a topic.
And the "big daddy" of conspiracies – (so hard to find this once hugely popular video on Youtube!)
Empire of the City - World Superstate , aka the Ring Of Power , aka Bloodlines of the Illuminati (in rearranged form)
By Grace Powers http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/
- History of: Vatican, Inner City Of London, Washington DC, British connection to Egyptian Royalty, Origin of Is-Ra-El, US, Vatican and current Roman (Western) Political System
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=empire+of+the+city+ring+of+power+full&sm=3 (5:00:21)
Freemason historical interpretation that conforms very closely to Ralph Ellis’s 40 years research
i.e. "Christian Jesus" story is superimposed over historical "Jesus" who is bloodline of Roman, Egyptian Royalty
And finally this is not an attack on the "supernatural" quite the opposite... (it’s just not the story, the "Romans" are telling us... in fact part of the secrecy is hiding this 'world' from us... since the time of the 'sibyls' The Romans became aware of how powerful prophecies were. Again the principle of "Control of Distribution of Information" (Knowledge is Power) Thus why they have so many secret societies and operate on the 'principle' of deception as the central theme of their whole imperialist culture... Evolution and materialistic Science are subtle campaigns that can be traced back to these secret societies and the Jesuits. Thus they were the first to 'institutionalize' propaganda as the basis of their expansionism, using their sophisticated interpretation of law and philosophy ...Today there is no denying the phenomena of a multi-dimensional universe imo... which brings us to...
Nassim Haramein - Black Whole - GaiamTV - Fractal Nature of Universe
Nassim Haramein proves all the ancient symbols are scientifically accurate models of fractal units (geometric shapes) or building blocks that outline the energy patterns of atoms, and can be observed operating on the atomic level and on the planetary level. Consistent with Richard Hoagland’s hyper-dimensional physics. Hawaii, Bermuda Triangle, fall into these areas. Also all the megaliths around the planet are built on a straight line. From the atom to the galaxy, mathematical origin of sacred geometry (model of the atom!) and that this in turn can explain man’s consciousness, and his connection to time and space, and the ability for some people to tap into this parallel realm. We are all alternating in and out of all the time/space and our consciousness can 'tap into this' The potential is that anyone can do this anywhere, anytime!
4shared - viewable/downloadable version
http://www.4shared.com/dir/HI4fKA9A/Nassim_Haramein.html (92:00) (only free copy I can find)
The best interpretation I can put on this... Is that 1) This blows evolutionary theory, as a fabrication of misaligned and ill defined hypotheses' as far as origin is concerned. Since ancient societies in many regards were more sophisticated especially in the area of spiritual, psychical mastery. How did they know something that we can only figure out today with electron microscopes and atom smashers? This supports the much suppressed (by modern "Christianity") gnostic traditions that practiced a form of self knowledge "gnosis" using teams of what would today be called "remote viewers" who literally retrieved information then "compared notes" to confirm/deny what they had "found" (i.e. they were applying a model of scientific methodology to their psychical research! What they were tapping into was is called the Akashic records. This is all consistent with quantum physics. i.e. material reality is built on a foundation of immateriality (atoms) Think of the paradoxical nature of this. And this is a scientifically inescapable fact! Matter comes from "non-matter" This is also consistent with the book "Holographic Universe" and Prof James Gate's discovery of error correcting computer programs in mathematical equations pertaining to super string theory. i.e. We live in a virtual reality. Material reality IS a virtual reality. Even Einstein expressed this. Begs the question. What is the foundation then? [/I]
Dr Michael Persinger - No More Secrets - photon as unit of information, (more confirmation for multi dimensionality?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg (54:43)
The father of mind control, remote viewing, some say he is debunking evidence of God, but in fact he is proving that the evidence of the pineal gland mechanism as a transmitter receiver of photonic (information) begs the question... Why is it there in the first place??? Dr Michael Persinger was the original scientist working with Ingo Swan and developed mind control/remote viewing experiments with the US military for over two decades and now teaches at Laurentian University in Thunder Bay ON. (strange location for a US Professor with 30 years tenure???) showed correlation between global magnetic field disruption and the accuracy of remote viewers! His other video is also hugely insightful
(Psychotropic Drugs and the Nature of Reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6-Pe278HA)
More generic, but his statement on over unity devices ("free" energy is proof of multi-dimensional nature of universe...)
PAUL A. LaVIOLETTE, PH.D, author of Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, Subquantum Kinetics, Earth Under Fire
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66216-Project-Camelot-An-update-with-Paul-Laviolette-superwave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxp8qDV9o_c (1:26:00)
Dr. LaViolette president of the Starburst Foundation since 1984, research in physics, astronomy, geology, climatology, psychology, and cultural anthropology. BA in physics Johns Hopkins, MBA University of Chicago, Ph.D. systems science Portland State University. solar energy consultant to the Club of Rome, Greek government. consulted Hughes Aircraft - company innovation. 1993 - reverse engineered B-2 bomber's classified propulsion technology, disclosed, explained microwave beam technology to propel vehicles developed in super secret Skyvault Project. originator of the subquantum kinetics physics paradigm, discoverer of the galactic superwave phenomenon, notion that cosmic ray outbursts from galactic core periodically trigger major shifts in the Earth's climate. became the first to discover high concentrations of cosmic dust and gold in ice age polar ice. author of six books, Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, Genesis of the Cosmos, Subquantum Kinetics, Earth Under Fire, Galactic Superwaves, Decoding the Message of the Pulsar.
And finally John Lamb Lash’s interpretation of the Nag Hammadi, (the Gnostic Gospels) contends that the Gnostics were a huge influence before Christianity, thrived for over a thousand years, (Alexandria Library may not have been completely destroyed, but suppressed...) Astrology/astrotheology/astronomy has been here since the beginning of antiquity. It’s origins not completely known but based on the idea the wider universe and planets affect us mentally and physically. For example, the moon cycle corresponds to the female period, affects behaviour, sunspots and magnetic fields affect our thinking, etc. Also the Vatican suppressed and delayed release and altered original text and interpretation of it.
Full Circle back to metaphysical interpretations. A cosmological origin theory of life and earth
Nag Hammadi - Gnostic texts
http://www.metahistory.org/GAIA%20SOPHIA/TrueAnarchy.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwXU5hVaNKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqo4-Q_qtg
According to Lash there was a desperate, unrelenting campaign to wipe out the Gnostics, who like the Druids posed a huge threat, since their spiritual beliefs made them impervious to threats, intimidation, fear of death, or propaganda, and thus were a threat to the Roman Empire "system of control and manipulation" through fear of physical reprisal... (the system we have today...)
John Lamb Lash says the Nag Hammadi (Gnostic text) has been suppressed and tampered with in critical areas by a Roman Catholic/'modern scientific' agenda that purposely delayed publication for decades, for the same reason they attacked it over 2000 years ago. The interpretation they created is completely misrepresentative. The evolving Roman bureaucracy tried to completely wipe Gnosticism off the face of the earth and kill every single adherent. (yet it survives today!! karma?... especially at this time in history...) He contends in fact that Gnosticism is not a religion but a philosophy, a cosmology, an alternative and anti-thesis to Institutionalized control of the masses by a centralized power, which is fast being identified as the biggest threat on the planet today.
Man as agent with physical body on planet earth, has means to traverse the universe inter-dimensionally? Supported today by well documented theories and applications in quantum physics, ancient Eastern interpretations (as per Nassim Haramein, Persinger, Ingo Swann) Humanity had a science capable of training one’s mind, to see the past, present and future? ie. remote viewing, Kashic records, astral travel, etc. we all have this potentially, consistent with ancient knowledge of sacred geometry. It has been documented that any archeological evidence that violates "Evolutionary Theory" is taken by the Smithsonian institute, and NEVER be seen again? Including sophisticated artifacts thet date 10s of thousands of years, giant sized bones, elongated skulls, etc... i.e. it is another Secret Society controlled government funded organization.
Lamb’s greatest contribution is confirmation of origin, interpretation of the Archons. They have been identified and discussed by Willhelm Reich, Carlos Castenada, Allen J Hyneck and Jaques Vallee (in particular bizarre behaviour of some "aliens", how they are often caught lying and deceiving!?) Every culture throughout history has reference to capricious entities, Jinn in the Middle East, Loki in Norse historical culture... Beings exist, but are limited in their ability to create? Interact with mankind, can only mirror and recreate certain degree our own conscious thinking? (explains a lot, speak of the devil...) Also they cannot remain in the Earth’s physical environment for very long. (think men in black?, black eyed children? UFOs, greys, supernatural phenomena?... always fleeting... have to take in a lot of interviews to really catch essence of what he is saying... I think there is something here... implications are stunning... least researched, needs more study... ;-)
Roman matrix - 2000 years of Imperialism (coercion by deceit, intimidation, force)
(i.e. why we live in a world of utter and complete deception) these are samples of many presentations/interviews, as there are several of each, it is valuable to watch as many as you can, to get the best interpretation...
Pontifex Maximus:
From pontifex meaning "bridge-builder" (pons + facere); "maximus" meaning "greatest".
Original ... Also as an extension of the powers of the Roman Emperor.
To whom did pagan Rome give her authority and capital city?;
“To the succession of the Caesars came the succession of the Pontiffs in Rome. When Constantine left Rome he gave his seat to the Pontiff”
- [Libiance, Professor of History, University of Rome]
538 AD = World wide power of Papal Rome became official – Emperor Justinian decree no longer opposed, Official title of Pope – “Vicar of the Son of God”
“Sunday is our mark of Authority... the [Catholic] Church is above the bible, and this transference of the Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.
- Catholic Record (September 1, 1923)
"The Pope and God are the same, so he has all power in Heaven and earth."
– Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Chapter XXII, p. 218, “Cities petrus Bertanous”.
"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty"
- Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894,
"This judicial authority will even include the power to forgive sin."
– The Catholic Encyclopedia Vol xii, article “Pope” pg. 265
2 Thessalonians 2:4
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.
"Fear, then, our wrath and the thunders of our vengeance; for Jesus Christ has appointed us [the popes] with his own mouth absolute judges of all men; and kings themselves are submitted to our authority."
- Pope Nicholas I (858-867 AD)
"…[that] the Church of Rome has shed more innocent blood then any other institution that has ever existed among mankind, will be questioned by no Protestant who has a competent knowledge of history…"
- W.E.H. Lecky, History of the Rise and Influence of the Spirit of Rationalism in Europe, Vol. 2, pg 32, 1910
"For professing faith contrary to the teachings of the Church of Rome, history records the martyrdom of more then one hundred million people…"
- Brief Bible Readings, pg. 16
"On August 24, 1527, Roman Catholics in France, by prearranged plan, under Jesuit influence, murdered 70,000 Protestants within the space of two months. The Pope rejoiced when he heard the news of the successful outcome."
- Western Watchman, Nov.21,1912 (Catholic)
"The Pope has the power to change times, to abrogate [revoke] laws, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts [laws] of Christ."
"The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ."
- Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris’ Ecclesiastical Dictionary
"The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changed… the Sabbath into Sunday, not by command of Christ, but by its own authority."
- Canon and Tradition, pg. 263
I don’t buy the Vatican as being representative of Christ. Who would boast they can change Christ’s own commands on public record? saying they can over rule the scriptures themselves? Their institutions are for profit corporations. I see a den of Satanic pederasts, predators, the highest bastion of evil on this planet, an institution of Organized Crime. People are waking have been lied to in EVERY facet of their lives, including corporate religious institutions. Elite and powerful interests have preyed for centuries on the gullibility of the ignorance masses. Karen Hudes, a 20 year lawyer for the World Bank, claims 60% of all income tax goes to the Vatican, and 40% to the Inner City of London. (gee, could that be why they don’t PAY taxes?)
This has nothing to do with spiritual reality. Quantum physics provides one of the best scientific models (apart from Eastern Philosophies?) Even the most famous atheist, Richard Dawkins, conceded this to Ben Stein within 5 minutes of a "debate" saying "...there was probably a supernatural designer..." and he, in fact admitted point blank, he DOESN'T have an explanation for the origin of the universe we live in! (huh?? true!!)
see Ben Stein vs Richard Dawkins interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlZtEjtlirc
This isn’t being pro-atheism, or materialism...(an inherently illogical premise and gross misrepresentation) Consider, we are taught to count protons and neutrons, the "material part (0.000001% yet ignore the other 99.9999% of the "space inside" the atom?
Independent researchers, scholars, authors and scientists are gathering information not readily available in the "Main Stream Media" Serious thinkers from many fields are starting to realize their compartmentalized specialization has left out relevant information available in other fields (and btw who compartmentalized it???) Even the Smithsonian Institute! is a "government funded" Institution that has hidden tens of thousands of artifacts from the public! The conclusion: we have been flat out lied to about science, history, archeological findings, education, the financial system, everything! EVERYTHING! And part of this is caused by the abuse and misuse of trusts. The "private side" of trust interpretation has been used to JUSTIFY LYING!! by suppressing information. It’s all about CONTROL (taking away your privacy and freedom indirectly as a by product) At the same time Trust "Law" (or interpretation) is thousands of years old, and at the same time has been largely removed from the public education system since the late 60’s. The entire "modern" education system has been manipulated since the beginning of the century...
see Hidden Agenda for a New World Government - Norman Dodd, G Edward Griffin interview -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYCBfmIcHM (52:32)
Secret Societies control 90% of all the governmental positions, Police, Fire Dept, Military, top admin staff of Universities and Hospitals have now brought this "Corporate Society" (Pyramid Scheme) They precipitate artificial disasters ON PURPOSE (according to a misguided Hegelian interpretation of order out of chaos, that they have hijacked to rationalize their own agenda, it’s just another front again!) The major premise of their membership is that one maintain secrets about what the truth is (Control of Distribution of Power) and withhold it from the 'public', under the guise they are doing all this for our benefit! Are they trying to tell us "lying" is noble? (or a fiduciary trust obligation?)... the very foundation of their creed is deception. These are the people that lord it over you, that live off your taxes... the Truth has to be lied about, for your benefit? because you are incompetent (a trust interpretation) Rationalization over being rational.
Perhaps we are to blame? Perhaps we need to wake up. (God helps those who help themselves) We are coming to a time of revelation, and that revelation is that we have been lied to. At the very least if you are going to keep working and slaving and giving all your energy (taxes), shouldn’t you at least be aware of who you are even giving it to? what they believe? how their system operates? Why do they feel so justified as to place themselves above us? And then to grind us under their boot? In a word... What is their claim to such superiority? (A philosophy of Roman Imperialism, now hidden within Hegelianism?) What is the philosophy of Imperialism? - physical, moral, intellectual, financial superiority? The will to power?...
This is a pragmatic interpretation, not necessarily just cynical, or about giving up your belief in "God", or to be less kind or giving or trusting... or less spiritual. It’s about seeking the truth, accepting the whole truth, no matter what it turns out to be. It is the TRUTH that is at issue. The simple hard facts. No one man or deity has a monopoly on TRUTH. NO ONE. It is up to each and every living being to exercise as much truth (as intention) as they can manifest, to the best of their ability. There is a Platonic principle, that knowledge is the remedy. Doesn’t "secrecy" by definition, create the beginning of the "Control of distribution of Knowledge"? In the spirit of sharing knowledge, I share the following... an ever expanding awareness (of the "rabbit hole") so vast, it both humbles and awes.
The following historical researchers and scholars have wide ranging interpretations, but if you combine altogether what is being said, in combination with everything else being shared here, I think you will have the ability to create an interpretation that answers many supposed 'mysteries' that should allow for an even wider interpretation. I find all research invariably points out, there is a clear agenda, to misinform the masses, that reaches to the highest levels, and goes back centuries, past the dark ages and as far back in recorded history as you can see.
We are still living in a more sophisticated version of the dark ages. However it is possible... that we are at the threshold, of a new awakening. A critical mass of truth seekers may be on the horizon. The internet may have never happened before.
It appears to be a technology the elites never even anticipated the full implications of, i.e. a distribution of all information to all points of contact in real time...
Please note all of these videos are just one sample of several available, I lost track which were the best, but by viewing more interviews of each researcher, you will get a wider perspective of what can be quite vast and expansive topics in and of themselves, these are complex arguments trying to tease out, in many cases, hidden or suppressed truths to begin with.
Dr Bart Ehrman - Misquoting Jesus - Historical analysis of original text regarding resurrection
(believes Jesus was real man, according to original existing bibles, says resurrection was added in Matthew, and archeological time frame as indicated by existing texts shows which areas these copies began to reproduce in... ie. mostly the Roman territories) also refers to a compilation of an astronomical number of errors in the bible, logical incompatibilities in original texts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfheSAcCsrE (1:35:20)
Joseph Atwill - Caesar's Messiah - NT biblical text is constructed as literary typology
(assumes Jesus character fiction, but focuses mostly on literary exposition or style...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9ATGqLNo8 (1:53:47)
The Roman Empire’s turning point greatest turning point was when it destroyed the Temple of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Up to that point the Jews were a significant and growing threat to the Roman Empire. The destruction of their capital and temple created a "power vacuum" and the Romans saw an opportunity to both mock and further control the remaining Jewish populations and undermine their attempts at preaching their own message of a coming Messiah, who was, in their interpretation, a warrior like David, by replacing it with a 'counter propaganda campaign' of a Roman created 'Messiah' A more peace loving and self sacrificing servant of God, which was then superimposed upon the Roman Emperor himself, i.e. a massive propaganda campaign, a common practice of the Caesars, to associate themselves in the minds of their subjects as 'gods' (starting with Julius... )
also see Simcha Jacobovici - Secrets of Christianity - Selling Christianity (further confirmation to the "Roman propaganda" campaign argument)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOjZg9ux-kU (44:03)
Truthsurge’s (of Youtube) - Excavating The Empty Tomb - Based on the book by Dennis R McDonald - The Homeric Epics and The Gospel of Mark (assumes Jesus is fictional)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jOzCMy9e5E&list=PL1D58C69D194384D2
Literary analysis is compelling and logical, but it is over interpreting as a proof against an "historical Jesus", he even mentions other historical references to Jesus as an Egyptian, something confirmed by other researchers (in this email) He draws on numerous parallels in the book of Mark, earliest of the 4 Gospels and Homer’s Odyssey 800 years prior. also it’s written as an "anonymous narrator" which creates logical problems as a "testimonial", which is then predictably addressed in "future versions" re: Matthew, Luke and John, as derivatives of Mark. Which only verifies the awareness of these "logical holes". "Improving" literature, by rewriting classics was a common practice, thus a similar argument to Atwill’s literary typology analysis, i.e. signs of literary style (fiction) "proves" Jesus must therefore be fictional is incorrect logic... (thus over interpreting, i.e. what if it was to 'hide' another history for example?) Truthsurge also references Bart Ehrman incorrectly, an authority on original text interpretation, since he unequivocally believes in a "historical Jesus"
Ralph Ellis - Cleopatra to Christ, Scota, Solomon & Sheba, Israelis originally Egyptians, The Hyksos Pharaohs as the 'Shepard Kings' (believes Jesus was a real man, explains who actual historical figure was... Royal Egyptian/Roman bloodline )
(Ellis admits to being a freemason)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50BZMNhe0j4 (1:06:21)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz-3fGiLwqk&list=PLC7BC7DE34A49CA66 (Series)
Tim Wallace Murphy (believes there was a historical Jesus)
Gardiners World -Tim Wallace-Murphy Rex Deus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLCO9YSc8JI (34:51)
Lectures on Hidden Wisdom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GqXt33eGyc (1:18:58)
What can I say, this is some of the most profound stuff and goes along the lines of the Da Vinci code arguments, the holy grail symbolism, etc, but on a much more spiritual and profound level... (I need to study it some more... i.e. not enough lecture on too big a topic.
And the "big daddy" of conspiracies – (so hard to find this once hugely popular video on Youtube!)
Empire of the City - World Superstate , aka the Ring Of Power , aka Bloodlines of the Illuminati (in rearranged form)
By Grace Powers http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/
- History of: Vatican, Inner City Of London, Washington DC, British connection to Egyptian Royalty, Origin of Is-Ra-El, US, Vatican and current Roman (Western) Political System
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=empire+of+the+city+ring+of+power+full&sm=3 (5:00:21)
Freemason historical interpretation that conforms very closely to Ralph Ellis’s 40 years research
i.e. "Christian Jesus" story is superimposed over historical "Jesus" who is bloodline of Roman, Egyptian Royalty
And finally this is not an attack on the "supernatural" quite the opposite... (it’s just not the story, the "Romans" are telling us... in fact part of the secrecy is hiding this 'world' from us... since the time of the 'sibyls' The Romans became aware of how powerful prophecies were. Again the principle of "Control of Distribution of Information" (Knowledge is Power) Thus why they have so many secret societies and operate on the 'principle' of deception as the central theme of their whole imperialist culture... Evolution and materialistic Science are subtle campaigns that can be traced back to these secret societies and the Jesuits. Thus they were the first to 'institutionalize' propaganda as the basis of their expansionism, using their sophisticated interpretation of law and philosophy ...Today there is no denying the phenomena of a multi-dimensional universe imo... which brings us to...
Nassim Haramein - Black Whole - GaiamTV - Fractal Nature of Universe
Nassim Haramein proves all the ancient symbols are scientifically accurate models of fractal units (geometric shapes) or building blocks that outline the energy patterns of atoms, and can be observed operating on the atomic level and on the planetary level. Consistent with Richard Hoagland’s hyper-dimensional physics. Hawaii, Bermuda Triangle, fall into these areas. Also all the megaliths around the planet are built on a straight line. From the atom to the galaxy, mathematical origin of sacred geometry (model of the atom!) and that this in turn can explain man’s consciousness, and his connection to time and space, and the ability for some people to tap into this parallel realm. We are all alternating in and out of all the time/space and our consciousness can 'tap into this' The potential is that anyone can do this anywhere, anytime!
4shared - viewable/downloadable version
http://www.4shared.com/dir/HI4fKA9A/Nassim_Haramein.html (92:00) (only free copy I can find)
The best interpretation I can put on this... Is that 1) This blows evolutionary theory, as a fabrication of misaligned and ill defined hypotheses' as far as origin is concerned. Since ancient societies in many regards were more sophisticated especially in the area of spiritual, psychical mastery. How did they know something that we can only figure out today with electron microscopes and atom smashers? This supports the much suppressed (by modern "Christianity") gnostic traditions that practiced a form of self knowledge "gnosis" using teams of what would today be called "remote viewers" who literally retrieved information then "compared notes" to confirm/deny what they had "found" (i.e. they were applying a model of scientific methodology to their psychical research! What they were tapping into was is called the Akashic records. This is all consistent with quantum physics. i.e. material reality is built on a foundation of immateriality (atoms) Think of the paradoxical nature of this. And this is a scientifically inescapable fact! Matter comes from "non-matter" This is also consistent with the book "Holographic Universe" and Prof James Gate's discovery of error correcting computer programs in mathematical equations pertaining to super string theory. i.e. We live in a virtual reality. Material reality IS a virtual reality. Even Einstein expressed this. Begs the question. What is the foundation then? [/I]
Dr Michael Persinger - No More Secrets - photon as unit of information, (more confirmation for multi dimensionality?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg (54:43)
The father of mind control, remote viewing, some say he is debunking evidence of God, but in fact he is proving that the evidence of the pineal gland mechanism as a transmitter receiver of photonic (information) begs the question... Why is it there in the first place??? Dr Michael Persinger was the original scientist working with Ingo Swan and developed mind control/remote viewing experiments with the US military for over two decades and now teaches at Laurentian University in Thunder Bay ON. (strange location for a US Professor with 30 years tenure???) showed correlation between global magnetic field disruption and the accuracy of remote viewers! His other video is also hugely insightful
(Psychotropic Drugs and the Nature of Reality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b6-Pe278HA)
More generic, but his statement on over unity devices ("free" energy is proof of multi-dimensional nature of universe...)
PAUL A. LaVIOLETTE, PH.D, author of Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, Subquantum Kinetics, Earth Under Fire
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66216-Project-Camelot-An-update-with-Paul-Laviolette-superwave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxp8qDV9o_c (1:26:00)
Dr. LaViolette president of the Starburst Foundation since 1984, research in physics, astronomy, geology, climatology, psychology, and cultural anthropology. BA in physics Johns Hopkins, MBA University of Chicago, Ph.D. systems science Portland State University. solar energy consultant to the Club of Rome, Greek government. consulted Hughes Aircraft - company innovation. 1993 - reverse engineered B-2 bomber's classified propulsion technology, disclosed, explained microwave beam technology to propel vehicles developed in super secret Skyvault Project. originator of the subquantum kinetics physics paradigm, discoverer of the galactic superwave phenomenon, notion that cosmic ray outbursts from galactic core periodically trigger major shifts in the Earth's climate. became the first to discover high concentrations of cosmic dust and gold in ice age polar ice. author of six books, Secrets of Antigravity Propulsion, Genesis of the Cosmos, Subquantum Kinetics, Earth Under Fire, Galactic Superwaves, Decoding the Message of the Pulsar.
And finally John Lamb Lash’s interpretation of the Nag Hammadi, (the Gnostic Gospels) contends that the Gnostics were a huge influence before Christianity, thrived for over a thousand years, (Alexandria Library may not have been completely destroyed, but suppressed...) Astrology/astrotheology/astronomy has been here since the beginning of antiquity. It’s origins not completely known but based on the idea the wider universe and planets affect us mentally and physically. For example, the moon cycle corresponds to the female period, affects behaviour, sunspots and magnetic fields affect our thinking, etc. Also the Vatican suppressed and delayed release and altered original text and interpretation of it.
Full Circle back to metaphysical interpretations. A cosmological origin theory of life and earth
Nag Hammadi - Gnostic texts
http://www.metahistory.org/GAIA%20SOPHIA/TrueAnarchy.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwXU5hVaNKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQqo4-Q_qtg
According to Lash there was a desperate, unrelenting campaign to wipe out the Gnostics, who like the Druids posed a huge threat, since their spiritual beliefs made them impervious to threats, intimidation, fear of death, or propaganda, and thus were a threat to the Roman Empire "system of control and manipulation" through fear of physical reprisal... (the system we have today...)
John Lamb Lash says the Nag Hammadi (Gnostic text) has been suppressed and tampered with in critical areas by a Roman Catholic/'modern scientific' agenda that purposely delayed publication for decades, for the same reason they attacked it over 2000 years ago. The interpretation they created is completely misrepresentative. The evolving Roman bureaucracy tried to completely wipe Gnosticism off the face of the earth and kill every single adherent. (yet it survives today!! karma?... especially at this time in history...) He contends in fact that Gnosticism is not a religion but a philosophy, a cosmology, an alternative and anti-thesis to Institutionalized control of the masses by a centralized power, which is fast being identified as the biggest threat on the planet today.
Man as agent with physical body on planet earth, has means to traverse the universe inter-dimensionally? Supported today by well documented theories and applications in quantum physics, ancient Eastern interpretations (as per Nassim Haramein, Persinger, Ingo Swann) Humanity had a science capable of training one’s mind, to see the past, present and future? ie. remote viewing, Kashic records, astral travel, etc. we all have this potentially, consistent with ancient knowledge of sacred geometry. It has been documented that any archeological evidence that violates "Evolutionary Theory" is taken by the Smithsonian institute, and NEVER be seen again? Including sophisticated artifacts thet date 10s of thousands of years, giant sized bones, elongated skulls, etc... i.e. it is another Secret Society controlled government funded organization.
Lamb’s greatest contribution is confirmation of origin, interpretation of the Archons. They have been identified and discussed by Willhelm Reich, Carlos Castenada, Allen J Hyneck and Jaques Vallee (in particular bizarre behaviour of some "aliens", how they are often caught lying and deceiving!?) Every culture throughout history has reference to capricious entities, Jinn in the Middle East, Loki in Norse historical culture... Beings exist, but are limited in their ability to create? Interact with mankind, can only mirror and recreate certain degree our own conscious thinking? (explains a lot, speak of the devil...) Also they cannot remain in the Earth’s physical environment for very long. (think men in black?, black eyed children? UFOs, greys, supernatural phenomena?... always fleeting... have to take in a lot of interviews to really catch essence of what he is saying... I think there is something here... implications are stunning... least researched, needs more study... ;-)