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ExomatrixTV

1st January 2014, 00:51

JUST UPLOADED: 9 Hrs David Icke - Conspiracy & Consciousness Research & Suppressed News!: http://youtu.be/Xxy40hYVBkk

[Age Restricted, you probably must login on youtube to see it]

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ExomatrixTV

1st January 2014, 00:57

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Azt

1st January 2014, 05:56

I think to force people to log in to youtube (google) for seeing a video is not a good idea. (Google is definitely a company that can not be trusted) Better take out the Age restriction and let this important video makes his way to wake up more people in 2014. My 5 cents.

Mu2143

1st January 2014, 07:01

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ExomatrixTV

1st January 2014, 13:47

Azt& Mu2143 >>> I have decided to make it "age restricted" because there is always a smartfart who can flag the video for 18+ content (no not porn) but graphic content not suitable for minors ! (got that?)

cheers,
John

EYES WIDE OPEN

4th January 2014, 21:15

christian

4th January 2014, 21:24

Shezbeth

4th January 2014, 21:48

Make no mistake, I am a huge fan of David Icke, his work, his insight, etc. Since I just love to pick at things however,.... ^_~

I (think I) get what he is trying to do, and I appreciate the organization's overall sentiment, but calling his 24/7 network the People's voice is beyond pretentious.

Moreover, I agree with Christian. CNN (for example) can only broadcast 24/7 because of exceptional corporatism and government largesse. This is NOT a model that should be emulated, and being that the prospective investor is the (largely) less-remunerated people, it seems a fool's errand to try. I'm not saying that Icke is trying to be CNN, but you don't need 24/7 when the synopsis can be done in a couple hours. In fact, (IMO) more is said with less, when properly said.

Further, I don't care (much) what supporters/participants of David's personal authoritarian heirarchy (don't for a MOMENT think he doesn't have one) have to say/opine. Personally, the only person in the equation who has proven to me that they really have something new to say (that isn't a direct rehash of what someone in the immediate periphery has said, and even that is arguable) is Icke. I'm sure he has talented this and dedicated that, and if that really is the case I will find myself watching their videos in time.

To wit, I am a fan of Alex Jones, but I can't stand the overwhelming majority of his operation; Likewise.

It is assumed that an all-the-time network will be more successful at awakening people - as though "The truth (at whatever level) hasn't been made convenient/available enough for people" - but I contest this. That more people aren't 'awake' has almost nothing to do with the availability of information; How many videos, documentaries, etc. are available on Youtube?

Edit Note - I lived for years in a suburb of a major city. In recent years I moved to an extremely rural community, one in which internet access is very much NOT the norm. Here, I thought to myself, I will find people who haven't been exposed to such information, that I can help to open eyes that haven't had the opportunity.

Turns out, they much prefer their football, bimbo-shows, etc. Availability of information does nothing to affect the mind that simply does not care.

The problem with many elements of alternative media is that - for the most part - people who want to get the message are actively seeking it, or in preparation to do so. Sure, circumstances/synchronicity plays an integral role, but in every case of one who seeks outside the mainstream there is a pre-existing element in the person that is in some way open to the material/ideas/presentations.

Besides, buying/building a huge media operation reminds me of the guy who mortgages a 3 bdrm house at $750/mo and then rents it out at $300/rm.

These are all thoughts that have been coalescing in my brain since I first heard of the People's Voice. I appreciate this thread for giving me the opportunity to voice my perceptions.

I will of course, regularly and consistently prescribe to his videos. :becky:

megawatts1066

4th January 2014, 23:57

Guys the studio is not "fancy", its just 10 years old kit and its put together by hard working talented people who have dedication. As I have stated on my own appeal and with my colleague Anne, we need £24MILLION.
That's because the internet and other sources of distribution has been and is being hacked. We require a secure independent source of delivery, which is satellite and any means that gets pictures and sound to people everywhere. The NSA knows everyone who is watching TPV.

This requires a secure delivery system, which is easy to pick up, and not on traceable hackable fiber optic broadband. (Most of UK is still in the dark age and gets very poor delivery for reliable moving pictures). BT has found out to be hacking down speeds and strangling its corporate customers, and cutting upload speeds, so people cant upload. The removal of the right to reply in most practical cases. This is an abuse of their monopoly position, and even a debasement of their authority and corporate company rules.
So TPV is for city folk with reasonable broadband.
That takes a real budget and a source of secure delivery systems across the world. The UK government has just postponed the switch off of FM and AM analog radio. This would immediately stop any "free thought" or pirate radio services getting through.
Digital delivery is so expensive, Jazz FM has pulled out of the useless DAB system. This is just one national digital station that can't afford the massive surcharges (licensing costs) the rip off DAB system "demands". This illustrates the massive costs faced by "legal" broadcasters, so that ordinary small "peoples voice" style networks cant get on the air.

Ofcom has destroyed access to free and creative stations so that only massive corporate money bags companies can ever get a viable access to the air. Ofcom shut down the only free and independent satellite services only weeks before TPV came online.
In every sense of the words BBC and now SKY (Which WAS to be the mass market easy way of getting many channels of many voices to the public) these are clone mind zombie media systems of the bland and unchallengingly dull.
But Ofcom have shut the free "alternative micro channels" down, so no free format expressive media exists now on any "Legal" framework.
So a new system must be developed. Ofcom has systematically destroyed all creative free and independent means of delivery of new voices and opinions over decades.
The logic:- they must be replaced with a robust system that allows free and sensible access to one media so that our freedoms and opinions are expressed and our democracy and social values are maintained, and not forced into the corporate stagnation of predicable mind controlled demographic hell, we now live in.
This means fresh ideas and comments MUST be allowed, otherwise the ability for us all to move on, change and get different views and opinions across will deliver a society of total control, and ultimately endless death for us all.LITERALLY.
We must prevent a culture of pure corruption and "bought" journalism, fake science and information, which is what we have from the BBC and rest of "mainstream".
SKY should have been this fresh new blast of creative air, as it was intended,but this has failed, so we must now create a new means of delivery of free access information, and keep it secure from the killers of all creativity, OFCOM and its cronies who indulge in total control, as they have no faith in their own "children" and their one ability to stand by their "product", in case someone else can come up with a different and better way of doing things.

£24 MILLION that is the threshold.

The fact TPV reached "online" status and has such a dedicated team to do this, is a nail in "mainstream's" coffins, and Ofcom's failure to provide independent free voices, These were called Pirates, as they God forbid did it differently than the dull dead and mind controlled established broadcasters of the respective eras.

OFCOM , like its digital radio service DAB, is Dead And Buried.

It must be said that many commentators state TPV is "Controlled Opposition", and Icke is a patsy for TPB. If this is the case, this will be a sad day.
Ever more the need for many free and expressive "people's voices", so we don't end up like an earlier revolution, they had in France, a previous Illuminati false dawn, and a dark phase in humanity's occupation by "them".
I make it very clear, We are a population of many races, ALL under occupation by a lethal terrible enemy, only a few realize and partly understand

We are at WAR, and the fight is for our very existence and survival, for those who have woken up, you will know this by now.
Long live freedom of expression and freedom of thought and creativity and LIFE!

Miles,
megawatts the pirate

watchZEITGEISTnow

5th January 2014, 05:02

I liked that David Icke wanted to launch a media platform. But why does he need this fancy studio in London, why does he need to broadcast 24/7? In the marketplace of alternative media, David would have had a chance easily, simply because of his popularity. But the way he runs his venture is just not a proper product, in my eyes. We already have information overload, I think it's ludicrous to start a 24/7 alternative news media operation in that environment. I love David, I have greatly benefited from his knowledge, read some of his books, but I will not donate to his media operation the way it is set up at the moment, cause I really don't believe that its format is good.

He should follow the Alex Jones INFOWARS model .... I know this sounds ungrateful (sorry Dave) but if the design team behind INFOWARS could give you some tips, that'd be great.

Also uploading to a youtube channel like AJ does so you can catch up daily on everything you've missed.

I know he probably wants to steer away from the CIA facebook/twitter/tube but I say use their own tools against them.

Limor Wolf

5th January 2014, 06:03

Only read the title and OP so far with a little skimming. David has done something quite remarkable here and done it good and professionaly extremely well. He got possibly the best people and broadcasters he could get, The energy and ambience presented in the 'People's voice' is very apparent to anyone who takes the time to watch and listen, it is something we need like a breath of fresh air. A true pioneer's vision. The enormouse significance of such an act and the true opportunity to build a means of communication and platform for autentic news must be hidden to anyone who may feel it is not quite necessary the way it was done. It is with great appreciation that I felt compelled to contribute whatever little amount I have every month a few weeks ago and I truly hope that people will consider joining to this effort as well.

Sitting beyond our keyboard and offering David Icke some advice on how to do it better, is beyond me when understanding the grand picture..
Can we really afford not to support such a valuable alternative to a system that otherwise we don't appreciate? How about someone has finally stood up and made a change instead of sit and dream on it.

Now, back to reading the rest of the thread

Blessings to all ~

== EDIT ==

Milles, you said it better than anyone could have, and thank you for your own great contribution

May we all soon be earning the freedom of mind, body and thought, the freedom of spirit and consciousness on this very worthy planet.

Orion197

5th January 2014, 16:44

In looking at this venture, i can agree some may say why in London, why 24/7 and why not just something simple and perhaps more “home made”, perhaps more budget minded. I think the reason is that this has been done, is being done and it is not effective as it should be. How can the alternative media compete with the BBC, CNN etc? Alex Jones has come close, but there is a lop sided balance in the presentation. The people, such as us on this forum already know much of the information which is being broadcasted on TPV, but how is a normal unaware person, perhaps on the verge of awakening, going to accept something if it appears to be conspiracy theory programming. They will look away, plain and simple. There is value in creating a professional, high quality production and it is free to watch after all. Do we not think this will attract more people to watch, pay attention and slowly digest the information. The transition to awareness will be easier as most people are still fast asleep on this planet. We need to think of the bigger picture here that TPV is best for the unaware masses. This is where it will be most effective.

I occasionally watch, not because I don’t want to, but rather because I am already aware of the information presented and yet I still donate a monthly recurring amount just as i do with Project Avalon. We need to dispel the idea that this is a David Icke business. He wants freedom for the people, and again we need to start thinking of the bigger picture here. It’s an uphill battle, but once TPV gets going with quality sponsorships, it will be self sufficient. This is a dream folks, a broadcast channel with no boundaries and for once, real news without the BS. I think we should support TPV and see where it goes.

Human mentality usually leads to the idea that “..someone else will do it”.

Isn't this how we got ourselves stuck in this quagmire in the first place?

As Limor brilliantly put it:

"Sitting beyond our keyboard and offering David Icke some advice on how to do it better, is beyond me when understanding the grand picture..
Can we really afford not to support such a valuable alternative to a system that otherwise we don't appreciate? How about someone has finally stood up and made a change instead of sit and dream on it."

Love to all

Chester

5th January 2014, 19:06

How is this channel watched in the US? If I could watch it, I would likely donate.

Nick Matkin

5th January 2014, 20:00

The UK government has just postponed the switch off of FM and AM analog radio. This would immediately stop any "free thought" or pirate radio services getting through.

David Icke may like to consider using Alternative Radio...

As someone who has followed Alternative Radio/Pirate Radio from a distance for decades, whether analogue radio is switched off or not in the UK, pirate radio stations will continue. Any tuning across the FM band in London, and many other major cities will reveal many unlicensed stations! AM pirates are also still fairly common, and, I expect meggawatts1066 will be aware of the continuing pirate radio stations on shortwave using NVIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_Vertical_Incidence_Skywave)propagation to cover Europe for example.

Most of David Icke's TPV programming seems to be 'talking heads', ideal for radio. He could approach some of the international radio broadcasters who now have many high-power transmitters standing idle. If he proves too controversial for them and they won't broadcast him, or they are too expensive, he could scale back a bit and try some Alternative Radio broadcasting, possibly from Ireland.

Admittedly radio is seen as TV's poor relative - and very "last century" - but hey, does he want to get his message out or not?

He could of course just try internet "audio broadcasting". If it doesn't work for him (and I can't really see why it shouldn't) then the old fashioned radio may be something for him to consider. Remember, no one can detect who's listening and jamming the signal isn't really practical.

I like the idea of The People’s Voice. I’ve worked in a similar media environment and the video clip shows David Icke has assembled a dedicated and enthusiastic staff – he’s done the hardest bit!

I can see why he wants a 24/7 TV presence, but maybe it's just a bit too ambitious at the moment.

Nick

cursichella1

5th January 2014, 23:09

Please help keep David Icke and the peoples Voice on the air! It will be gone forever in a month otherwise. What a terrible wasted opportunity that would be after so much effort and dedication.

DONATE:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-s-voice--2

Two reasons I thank you for this, EYES WIDE OPEN.

Now that I'm able, it's time for me to start donating to Project Avalon, which has been central to my centering (and so many others'...), as well as to Icke, who IMO has for the most part (like 97%...) nailed it. :)))

cursichella1

5th January 2014, 23:17

How is this channel watched in the US? If I could watch it, I would likely donate.

Main for live broadcast:

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/

Programming schedule (GMT):

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/schedule

Time Zone Conversion (scroll down, it is below the the ads...):

http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc

EYES WIDE OPEN

6th January 2014, 12:43

Something is going on over at TPV.

Sonia Poulton has left accoring to her f/b page:

" Today I have left The People's Voice. I didn't want to. I have put my heart and soul into it but I have become aware that to stay there is very bad for the things I stand for and fight for. I will be issuing a statement soon. Thank you for all the wonderful support. New plans already underway. "

Not looking good.

SKAWF

6th January 2014, 13:51

dont get me wrong, i like david icke. he woke me up to whats happening in the world, but i never really erm... connected with the peoples voice.

i had no interest at all in the presenters. ask yourself if you would pay to sit and listen to any of them talk for ten hours?. icke, yes. the others.... nah.
ive heard comparisons with alex jones. dont forget alex is on over a hundred radio stations as well as his internet show. he also has an online store propping him up.
whereas the peoples voice relies on dontations. and it wouldnt be so bad if he was on sky tv like edge media was.
instead its on the internet along with everything else, so his channel, and presenters have to be as good as the vast array of other things to choose from.
my internet choices are taylored to me. its exactly what i want to read/view/listen to. i watch alex jones nearly every day,
but only for a few hours. then i'm off somewhere else, and its whatever i want.... so how can the peoples voice compete with that?

if i was david, i would cut my losses sooner rather than later, keep the experience, and move onto the next thing.
maybe something like blog talk radio. he has a massive wealth of subject matter to draw from, so a two hour show once a week
with people calling in would be far more interesting in my view, also it would remove the grief associated with asking for money to keep it going,
it would enable him to get his message out as well as connect on a more personal level with people who are interested with what he has to say...

which brings me to my final point.....

in my opinion, the only thing which gives/gave the peoples voice any legs, is/was david icke. why would i pay to watch people i couldnt care less about?

steve

actually, ken o'keefe is alright as well.

EYES WIDE OPEN

6th January 2014, 14:14

Now TPV f/b have posted this:

Statement regarding Sonia Poulton

Sonia Poulton has decided to leave The People's Voice today after threatening to walk out in the middle of a live show if she didn't get her way. This was the third time that she had threatened to walk out if her view did not prevail and she chose to leave after a discussion about her behaviour during the live show and other matters.

We thank Sonia for her efforts over the last few weeks since The People's Voice has been on air.

If TPV is going to succeed everyone must work together for the common good and treat each other with equal respect.

to which Sonia posted this in reply on her f/b:

I am aware of the statement put out by The People's Voice regarding my departure today. I can state, with absolute certainty, that the reason given was not even mentioned at this morning's meeting. It was the 'other matters' that was the cause of my leaving. I hope you can bear with me as I gather myself to release a statement of full events from the start of my time at TPV until the finish.

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What a car crash & no matter what happened all very dissapointing.

Tesseract

9th January 2014, 01:35

In this 35 minute video, David discusses, with a lot of passion, some anger, the allegations made recently by Sonia Poulton, who recently and acrimoniously left The People's Voice (TPV). I have been quite impressed with TPV and hope that it does stay on air beyond next month. I don't really wish to write anything bad about Sonia Poulton, since she seemed, from the other side of the tube, like a decent person - however her piece against TPV was quite unprofessional, and it would have been better if she could have given herself more time to cool down.

In the video David explains that the TPV financial records are being prepared for public inspection, and that they should be out in the next couple of days. I hope that these records will put the innuendo to rest - until then the suggestion of impropriety will hamper efforts to keep the station running. Sonia has been invited to give her side of the story on TPV.

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If this video was already posted, my apologies.

watchZEITGEISTnow

9th January 2014, 07:53

I'm surprisingly optimistic - there is no bad publicity...

Remember the beloved Charles? Check the stats for the site once the infighting began there - most users ever ;)

Azt

9th January 2014, 08:16

Cidersomerset

9th January 2014, 13:58

A couple of stories from Davids headline page illustrating his point on
Totalitarian Tip Toe...

Police State UK: At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost anything

Thursday 9th January 2014 at 04:47 By David Icke

http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/fascism_motivational.jpg

‘Until the late 19th century much of our city space was owned by private landlords.
Squares were gated, streets were controlled by turnpikes. The great unwashed,
many of whom had been expelled from the countryside by acts of enclosure, were
also excluded from desirable parts of town.

Social reformers and democratic movements tore down the barriers, and public
space became a right, not a privilege. But social exclusion follows inequality as
night follows day, and now, with little public debate, our city centres are again
being privatised or semi-privatised. They are being turned by the companies that
run them into soulless, cheerless, pasteurised piazzas, in which plastic policemen
harry anyone loitering without intent to shop.

Street life in these places is reduced to a trance-world of consumerism, of
conformity and atomisation in which nothing unpredictable or disconcerting
happens, a world made safe for selling mountains of pointless junk to tranquillised
shoppers. Spontaneous gatherings of any other kind – unruly, exuberant, open-
ended, oppositional – are banned. Young, homeless and eccentric people are, in the
eyes of those upholding this dead-eyed, sanitised version of public order, guilty
until proven innocent.’

The Guardian...

http://stratrisks.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/At-last-a-law-to-stop-almost-anyone-from-doing-almost-anything-300x200.jpg

Read more: Police State UK: At last, a law to stop almost anyone from doing almost anything

http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/17380

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Met police want water cannon ready to use in Britain by summer

Thursday 9th January 2014 at 04:33 By David Icke

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/1/8/1389186418237/Boris-Johnson-011.jpg

‘Britain’s biggest police force wants water cannon ready to be used on the streets of
mainland Britain by this summer, official letters reveal.

The documents also show that a request for the government to fund the
controversial purchase has been rejected by the home secretary, Theresa May.

Public consultations on the deployment of water cannon will begin within weeks and
a formal decision made next month.

Water cannon have not previously been available to police on mainland Britain, and
their use has been limited to Northern Ireland.’

Read more: Met police want water cannon ready to use in Britain by summer

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/08/met-police-water-cannon-britain

Carmody

9th January 2014, 15:55

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bodhii71

9th January 2014, 16:26

http://http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2014/01/07/the-peoples-voice-allegations-of-racism-and-financial-misdealings-as-sonia-poulton-quits/
... And the other side of the story

Like others, I was stunned by the short and snarky statement produced by David Icke’s new online TV channel, The People’s Voice (TPV) yesterday, on the departure of Sonia Poulton (since removed from the site). Sonia has released a statement of her own today which serves to stoke the suspicions of those outside the channel.

Poulton has distinguished herself as a campaigning journalist in recent years, taking on the Coalition government and it’s ideological austerity programme. For me, she provided the single source of credibility for TPV. She kindly extended a welcome to me and a host of other bloggers and activists while the Sonia Poulton Live show aired. I was asked repeatedly why I was giving my time to the channel, and my answer was always the same – I love Sonia’s show.

A few weeks ago, an unsettling blog post was brought to my attention. It alleged that a member of the TPV production team has used the word ‘Wog’ in a derogatory context, and rather than deal with the matter professionally, the volunteer who expressed complaint was sidelined. Furthermore, there were allegations that volunteers were being exploited, working very long hours for nothing, while other members of the team were paid and enjoyed the better work.

This alleged treatment of Sonia Poulton will no doubt seal the opinion of many on TPV. There has been much debate about whether it is merely a vanity project for its founder David Icke, or a breakthrough in citizen journalism. I sincerely hoped for the latter, used the platform to engage with like minded people and awaited evidence either way.

I will now publish Sonia Poulton’s statement in full, which seems to back up every vague suspicion and allegation levelled at the channel and its producers since its inception. If anyone from TPV would like to respond to these allegations, by all means get in touch.

“During the brief period when I worked as a full-time journalist and presenter at The People’s Voice office in Wembley – every week day, sometimes 12 hours a day for the period from November 18th to January 6th – various volunteers and staff made alarming comments to me about the financial accounting at The People’s Voice.

I was told that public money had been ‘squandered’, ‘spent unwisely’ and ‘in an easy-come, easy-go manner’. I was informed that various pieces of equipment, including a handheld camera, had ‘gone missing’. It was alleged that money had been paid to someone who did not warrant being paid and who shared a property in Wembley with David – amongst other accusations.

Given these suspicions I was not happy with David Icke and Sean Adl-Tabatabai – TPV’s station manager – suggesting a second telethon on January 3, 2014. This was to raise more money for TPV following a two-week Christmas break from live programming.

I realised that the public, who had already donated far in excess of £300,000, was losing some goodwill towards TPV – and for a number of reasons.

I felt, as did other members of staff who said it to me – but did not have the courage to say it to David Icke directly – that all financial dealings should be public and transparent.

I believe, and conveyed this to David Icke, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts – in their respective roles as Station Manager and Production Manager – that all money paid out – including expenses and staff wages should be published monthly. This idea never progressed beyond the asking stage.

This, and other issues reached a head for me on Friday night when I was asked to take part in the telethon to raise money even though I didn’t know entirely where the previous public money had gone to.

I should add I refused point blank to take part in the first telethon in early November before the station had even launched. Not only was I unimpressed with some of the content of that telethon, as a representation of TPV, but I felt there was something wrong in asking the public for more money BEFORE they had seen even one programme.

So it was that I was not happy to do this latest telethon but I did it because I wanted TPV to succeed.

Despite my misgivings, I put my heart into it including organising a Question Time-style panel and a film recorded on New Year’s Eve about people who are doing important activism to make positive changes to our world.

I was, and remain, proud of this input – and output – and all the people involved in making this happen and all for only the petrol money to cover the filming.

After the telethon, I slept badly on Friday night and by Saturday morning I had sent an e-mail to David Icke outlining my serious concerns about the finances at The People’s Voice.

I heard nothing back from him. This was unusual because David is not only a prolific writer but he has always responded within hours, sometimes minutes, of my sending him an e-mail.

I arrived at the TPV office on Monday about 10am. David’s office door, a glass-type partition, was closed and I tapped on it. He refused to look up at me and kept staring at the screen in front of him.

Undaunted, I opened the door, said ‘good morning’ and asked if I could have a talk with him. He refused. He said he had to wait until Sean arrived before we could talk. I asked him when that would be. He said any minute.

Sean arrived about 45 minutes later. Liz Roberts, Head of Production, came to me and said they were ready for the meeting. Then, somewhat oddly, she led me to the darkened, sound-proofed studio where the music and performance segment of TPV is recorded.

I was uncomfortable with this as I was uncertain why we were meeting in here seeing as David normally conducts meetings in his or Sean ADL’s office, both at the end of the TPV main office.

Several chairs had been placed in the darkened studio in a semi-circle and I sat down on the chair that was most set apart from the others. Sean ADL took a seat and Liz Roberts went to get David Icke. It was silent between Sean and I and we waited a minute or so until David Icke joined us.

I could see that David was already furious when he arrived in the room. He looked how I had seen him on several other occasions when he has lost his temper with members of staff. He sat down on the chair directly opposite me and in the middle of Sean ADL and Liz Roberts and I said, ‘who’s going to start?’

David said that seeing as I was the one with the allegations, it should be me.

I told him that for the past few weeks people in the office – including volunteers and paid staff – had been coming to me and making troubling accusations about misappropriation of the funds.

I had heard stories of nights out on expenses, of many rounds of drinks and food being bought in pubs, of takeaways and alcohol being ordered to the People’s Voice by – and for – paid staff members.

There were even more outrageous accusations told to me including people who received money from TPV who had some personal involvement with David Icke.

I told David, Sean ADL and Liz Roberts that TPV was struggling financially because public goodwill towards TPV was at a low ebb because, amongst other things, a lack of transparency.

I said that I felt it personally important to see how the money had been spent up to this point – and not least because David always agreed with me about the importance of transparency in all dealings.

David’s voice was raised and he demanded to hear more of my allegations and who they involved.

I felt that this was some kind of a trap and I said I wasn’t going to name names at this stage and that I just wanted to see where the money had been spent. He refused. He said I would have to wait until the end of the year. He was furious that I dared to question the funds.

His entire attitude was indignant and outraged by my request. I asked him if I would need to put in a Freedom of Information request to get the information from The People’s Voice regarding accounting.

I was shocked by the corporate front that David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean ADL were showing me with regard what had happened with the money and I said that I believed TPV was operating no differently – with it’s hierarchy of decently paid management, numerous unpaid volunteers and no accountability – to the corporations we despised.

It was at this point that David Icke lost his temper completely. He started shouting that I was the most divisive character that he had ever met in the media and that everyone hated me at TPV. He asked Liz Roberts to back this statement up but she couldn’t. Given that Liz has previously stated in public in the office that I am ‘an example to all of us’, I didn’t feel that she could really back up his accusation with any credibility.

This emotional attack from David alarmed me greatly. I had only asked for financial transparency and not only was he refusing to let me have this information but he tried to use intimidation techniques to deflect me from pursuing it too.

David Icke tells everyone I am a PROPER journalist. His words. When I am on air I am told he walks from office to office, pointing at the screen and saying ‘that’s real journalism’. The big problem here is

David Icke is only happy when I am investigating anyone or anything other than him and The People’s Voice.

I am not saying that anyone has carried out fraud at TPV. I have no proof of that. What I am saying, however, is that I believe there exists a cavalier attitude, at times, to the spending of public funds.

At TPV I have seen the letters of people who donate their hard-to-come-by cash. Children giving up their pocket money and pensioners contributing part of their pension. It greatly upsets me to see the laissez faire attitude towards their money.

The statement on my departure released by TPV and written by David Icke – according to Liz Roberts in correspondence with presenter Barrie Sharpe – was designed to smear me.

None of what was said even came up in the meeting yesterday morning. David Icke’s statement was an affront not only to me but to anyone who supports me and to anyone who donated their time, efforts and money to TPV. Thank goodness so many people have seen right through it and reacted accordingly.

I would be more than happy to debate TPV with David Icke, Sean Adl-Tabatabai and Liz Roberts on camera and in a neutral environment. I have nothing to hide.

It is not me who seeks to take people into a darkened room away from other people in the office at the point when the person wants to address important questions about alleged financial mismanagement. I am, and remain, transparent in my dealings.

I am informed by a member of staff that there have been orders to ‘remove me’. This includes taking down a great deal of information I have conveyed on film at TPV including a video we shot on New Years Eve about children being taken into care and about people campaigning against fracking.

David Icke says The People’s Voice is about ‘the content and not the personality’. If that is so, why would he have sanctioned the removal of ‘the content’ that I contributed to The People’s Voice?

Content, I might add, that I have already copied and feel totally at liberty to post on to Youtube. I believe that the public, who paid for this, is entitled to that and it should not be stopped because of the vindictive behaviour of people who claim to know better.

I am in no doubt that David Icke shouted at me in the meeting because, rather than accept that there may be a problem of a certain culture growing at TPV, he chose to deflect the blame for his failings onto me and my character.

I acknowledge that I am capable of being a fiery character. I’ve said it on camera. It’s part of who I am but it is entirely wrong – as they suggest in the official statement about my departure – to suggest that I don’t treat people with respect.

You only have to look at the wonderful things that have been said about me following my departure from TPV. I am quite blown away by the strength of support.

So I have to ask: why would David Icke attempt to smear my character? I only asked where The People’s Voice money had gone to?

Hardly an unreasonable question, I thought, given myself – and many others – were contributing great amounts of time and money to making TPV happen.

I’m not looking for a medal but I did more than work at TPV, I have also put my hand in my own pocket and have funded a hire car, petrol, pictures and food for volunteers.

I am far from financially wealthy and I am a single parent with only my income coming in, but I have contributed what I could because I believed in what TPV was capable of.

I am deeply upset what has come to pass. It has taken me a day to compose my thoughts into any semblance of order. I believed in the capability of TPV. I don’t anymore. As it stands, it is not capable of being the true media we so desperately need in this world.

When I was sat in the meeting yesterday morning I realised that these three people before me were not capable of creating an alternative media. I knew that if I were to stay a moment longer I was in danger of damaging my own hard-won reputation of honesty and misleading the public too. I could not do that and that is why I left.

I am also upset because there are people at TPV whom I have become very fond of. Good people who want to make a better world but who are unaware – or don’t know how to deal with – the real issues of injustice right under their noses.

It won’t stop me trying to create that media I can imagine, though. I have gained a great deal of understanding of what not to do and I have plans right now how to implement my own show. I will only do this if it can be completely transparent because that is what I believe we need more of in this world. I thought TPV could offer that. It didn’t.

For the record, David Icke needs to understand that respect – as his official statement about me calls for – is a two-way street. He is so used to being all-powerful in his environment that he responds badly to being challenged.

Despite repeatedly saying that ‘presenters have free-will’ David Icke did not hesitate to make known some of his dissatisfactions with me inviting on guests whom he had fallen out with in the past.

I witnessed that side of him and so did Sean ADL and Liz Roberts. They sat back and allowed it to happen. That’s why they are still there. They do not challenge him because to do so would challenge the comfortable and unaccountable existence at TPV that they have come to enjoy.

Both Sean ADL and Liz Roberts publicly have stated that TPV may not survive beyond the end of January unless the station gets more money in. Well, as two of the people who have access to TPV’s funds, they would know.

As of this afternoon I have not received the requested information on financial accounting. How difficult can it be to show how much has been donated to The People’s Voice and where and by whom it has been spent?

Upon receipt of the information from The People’s Voice, I will report on my findings just as I report on the behaviour of other organisations.

The silence from the station, in response to the extraordinary support of people who are appalled at the statement issued by David Icke on behalf of The People’s Voice, speaks volumes.

This is my statement of the events of yesterday at The People’s Voice with David Icke, Liz Roberts and Sean Adl-Tabatabai. I have sent this statement to all these three people as well as posting it on my website and on social network sites.

Sonia Poulton, January 7th, 2014″

Earth Angel

9th January 2014, 16:42

would anybody have a link to this full movie??

LV_18x3cpo4

Arc

9th January 2014, 17:16

I am still rooting for TPV. And, while it has room for improvement, I think it is quite impressive what it has delivered in a short period of time. I do not regret my crowd fund contribution, and will continue to send them a humble monthly donation to see where the project will go.

The Sonia situation was unfortunate, and we should realize even among well meaning good people there can be disagreements and ego clash's. All well meaning people, including all of us, do have some minor personality flaws that can be tested under stress - it's part of being a human.

But, after evaluating the current testimonies of both sides though, I have to give TPV and David Icke the benefit of the doubt for a couple key reasons. One is that Sonia seems to be an anomaly, in which there is no evidence yet provided that there are any other people who are standing with her and making similar allegations. If like half of the crew spoke out on something, it would be a different matter, but she is alone on this. I think Richie Allen's comments were also pretty important because he is a no-nonsense, pretty straight shooter. Further, David and TPV agreed to publish the financials anyway.

It seems to me entirely possible that Sonia Poulton was a trojan horse to TPV from the beginning, based on the following:

1) how she left at a strategic time, when TPV first faced some financial challenges,
2) strategically targeting the projects strong point, crowd funding, to persuade the crowd funders (us) to abandon our support due to alleged dishonest budgeting
3) has no support from anyone else at TPV about her allegations, including her own program's staff who just shook their heads in disbelief when she blew up
4) immediately made a public character attack out of the matter to discredit David and the whole TPV project

At best perhaps her own ego, stress, character flaws got the best of her and she self destructed. However, we also know that there is always effort to discredit alternative media projects, sources, and personalities, and one very effective tactic is to infiltrate posing as an ally that later causing incidents to divide the group or project. We have even watched the same thing happen here on Avalon in 2011. But, resilient groups can overcome these attacks.

Snookie

9th January 2014, 17:32

My 5 cents, David big mistake was not to be super clear (publishing the accounting results from day one after going alive) I had personally supported this project (via the UK version of the kickstarter) but still did not get any poster (which I was supposed to receive it by making a donation) not that I care about the poster but the lack of follow ups actions after the money arrived can cost the whole project. Hope it is a good learn for all going forward.

Exactly, I donated and was supposed to be able to watch a rehearsal of the show. I waited, and waited and then a few weeks ago I got an email promising they were going to send me a link to a rehearsal - realllly exciting when TPV has been on air for over a month........still waiting for the link.

Things like this damage his reputation, even if he is not personally aware it happened.

Also I have gone to the site several times, and several times either there is nothing broadcasting or the quality is so poor it is unwatchable. I have a good broadband connection and rarely have issues with other sites.

indigopete

9th January 2014, 19:11

All I can say is, looks like they're well rid of her.

Talk about throwing your toys out of the pram. She sounds like a complete nightmare to work with.

I hope they get everything back on air.

selinam

9th January 2014, 19:49

Volunteers are strictly that - volunteers. No renumeration should be expected and I would imagine they volunteer what time they can. If they are working long hours, I would expect they are ok with it or they wouldn't do it.

Selina

Tesseract

10th January 2014, 02:15

Sonia Poulton responds to David Icke's response:

Sonia maintains, without being specific, that the alleged spending malpractice at TPV was far deeper than a few drinks for volunteers. She also asks to interview senior members of TPV, but declines to be interviewed by Richie Allen, who she admits she doesn't like. She says she is not about character-bashing David Icke, and notes that he does not live by his own words.

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Nanoo Nanoo

10th January 2014, 02:36

Sonia Poulton's video here is very accurate. She is being very honest.

what a a shame ... Icke , imo is a farce

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watchZEITGEISTnow

10th January 2014, 02:53

She's self interest.

seehas

10th January 2014, 03:43

its really sad for TPV that something like this can make bad publicity since the reason why this escalated seems to be an ongoing social conflict between two persons and i won't judge sonia I'm only asking one question:

was it worth it trying to sink the same ship, you heavily promoted just days before? sometimes the ego just takes over :(

TPV is not about sonia poulton or david icke, its about THE PEOPLE.

Delight

10th January 2014, 03:46

I am still onto confronting narcissm. There is almost a built in narcissistic model where media and broadcasting is concerned. The traits of broadcasters often have narcissistic tones. Egos just get terribly inflated. This is not conducive to building something.

It seems that control issues at TPV exploded. This was preceded by weeks of streaming that was subpar compared to what else is available. There were requests in PA to with-hold criticism but quick turnaround based on feedback is the best asset for 21st century systems. When people with cell phones and webcams on their lap top are making worthy offerings. When there is so much media, the People's Voice just has not thrived.

One thing I am sure about, TPV could take all this information and use it to its advantage, that includes Sonia Poulton's criticism and all questions. But everyone involved at TPV will be tripped up if ego and self justification reigns.

Respecting the requirements of relationship (in other words nonseparative inviting into real intimacy) will now work well. Narcissm will just implode. Consciousness is asking for cooperation to the max with human relationship.
The experience that I have had with The People's Voice demonstrates poor outreach to build relationship skills.

TPV will thrive by including people creating a real network. There were calls even in David Icke's forum from early on to be included in "how things would work" technically and about accounting plus expenditures. Small contributors deserve timely acknowledgement. There needs to be a way to implement suggestions quickly. It is not a success strategy to be expecting reputation and "promises of something" is what counts. Delivery that is meeting the people's voiced needs is what keeps devotion.

TargeT

10th January 2014, 04:04

would anybody have a link to this full movie??

This doesn't work for me (wrong country) maybe it works in the great white north?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UQXTrH8SoU&list=TLNtENYbdxOp8

you'll probably have to rent it from somewhere... I thought stuff older than 20 years was public domain (but I don't know where that thought came from) its on DVD from netflix, not anywhere on the web that I can find.

As to the OP.... well, I'm frankly not overly surprised and I think that financial impropriety should absolutely be pointed out when donations are given (much like the questions that were posed about this site a while ago; the exersise must be taken, we need to know.)

if david did what he was alleged to do, well he's fitting exactly into the role that I have pre-judged him to be in; color me not surprised.

People in the "alt" community only rise past a certain level under seemingly very specific conditions.

Why Is PA as small as it is? does Bill not discuss topics as important, or more than D Icke ?
(or is he just not as marginalizable ?)

Tesseract

10th January 2014, 04:05

Tesseract

10th January 2014, 04:12

Here is a statement on the infamous missing camera from TPV's website:

this was a £400 domestic handycam, which was inadvertently left on a train by one of our most valued and talented volunteers after she had been out filming.

SKAWF

10th January 2014, 06:02

The image below is a screen grab from the TPV site, showing a breakdown of their financial costs.

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If you have never been involved in setting up an enterprise involving serious equipment and a lot of people, you may not really understand how much money it generally takes. I find it quite amazing that they have produced, from scratch, a studio, website and professionally produced and edited content for what they have spent. Think about it - a multi-faceted TV station broadcasting out of London for less than 300 000 quid... If you think you can beat that, please make the attempt.

The biggest expense appears, unsurprisingly, to be the studio equipment - but I remember when the initial $100 000 goal was raised, it was to allow for enough money to buy high end equipment capable of matching the professional finish that we are used to in the MSM. There is another large expenditure on wages, but this enterprise was never going to sustain itself on 100 percent volunteerism. Are there some wasteful instances of spending hidden within any of these categories? There probably are - but isn't focusing on that failing to see the forest for the trees?

hold a sec...

these figures dont make sense.

obviously leaving aside the cost of equipment......

how is it, that the rent is only £1200, and the food £589, and the gas and electric £1400, but the wages are £75,000?

how much does that office cost per month? surely the rent cant be that low?
i assume that these costs are from day one, to present day. otherwise those wages are way too high imo.
either that or the rent and stuff is way too low.

i'm going to set up a business, and live in the office!

Carmody

10th January 2014, 07:11

SKAWF

10th January 2014, 09:18

From direct experience, wages are one of, if not the biggest expense that any business with employees, will generally have to deal with. The place has volunteers, but there will always be certain things that you need to get done that only professionals will be capable of doing, who expect to be paid for doing them.... otherwise they won't be there.

i appreciate what your saying... in relation to a normal business, but TPV isnt a normal business is it?
when they say..'we need money to stay on the air', i think most people think of that as meaning property rental, bandwidth costs, electricity etc.... not wages.

how many websites out there ask for donations... there are hundreds. but most of them show how much they need and what its for, and often... its no great amount,
most often its to cover running costs, but if your asking for money to pay People, thats another thing entirely i reckon.

i dunno. as i say, i know where your coming from, but it doesnt feel right to me. you should operate within your means.
there are lots of ways of going about it. instead of paying one professional, you could cover the expenses of three or four committed volunteers.

maybe they have tried to do too much too soon.
like alex jones - if they did a three hour show once a day, costs would have been massively reduced, while still getting the message out,
and they wouldnt have to ask others to pay what i think is a massive wage bill.
even better still, why not do what i thought they were going to do,
which is to act as a hub for alternative programming from the broad spectrum of stuff in the alternative media?,
i know of lots of people who have some really exiting projects on the go,
who could really use a tv station that would get their message out to a wider audience.
(micheal tellinger for example)
how many people out there are capable of creating programming good enough for TPV,
and would happily put the effort in to create it, if they thought it would be broadcast on TPV?
instead of the 'few' who are currently there?.
theres a MASSIVE amount of stuff in the alt community which (with permission) could be aired. certainly enough to get the station on its feet.
and when the station is estblished.... THEN move onto 'live' stuff.
you really would only need funding for the essentials, paid staff would be only those required,

truthfully, with this post of mine.... i know i feel strongly about it, but... i dont quite know what it is i feel strongly about.

Flash

10th January 2014, 14:50

When I do something thanks to my Professional talent, i expect to have enough money from it to be able to put bread on the table and have 2 weeks vacation a year. Otherwise, i am not there. SKAWF, you are misled, very few people will give their time and Professional expertise free, very very few unless they are retired and already have a source of revenue somewhere. People need to live SKAWF, expecting everything free comes to those that do not pay for their living expenses, either the very rich, or some of the generational very poors (welfare récipients who have never worked, not those that got into dire circumstances).

When you get too many free people, with or without talent, the management of it becomes so incredibly difficult that you end up failing. YOu do have to have paid workers, in any organisation.

That being said, since the budget is entirely from donations, the expenses and accounting should be made public as it always is for donation organisations in Canada, when they are public (some are private groups).

There is two places where it has to be closely monitored, for any organisation: the accounting, so that the least money as possible is getting out, and the sales/promotion, to get attention and presence (which is expensive), and therefore money. TPV has made mistakes in both, from an administrative point of view.

And those topics are really boring, so passionate people do not want to hear about them - their mistake. I have seen many organisations fail because of this.

Now, 24/7 is much asking from any organisation, i lived in those environments, I know. Their strategy, if any, was not very well planned, nor their market/presence research and niche check up. Many basic mistakes. It is not professionnal Television people they need or needed, it is good business administators and market professionals (social media and marketing niche strategists - because they don't know how to do it, in my opinion).

The most expensive: keeping a presence, the second most expensive: wages.

From direct experience, wages are one of, if not the biggest expense that any business with employees, will generally have to deal with. The place has volunteers, but there will always be certain things that you need to get done that only professionals will be capable of doing, who expect to be paid for doing them.... otherwise they won't be there.

i appreciate what your saying... in relation to a normal business, but TPV isnt a normal business is it?
when they say..'we need money to stay on the air', i think most people think of that as meaning property rental, bandwidth costs, electricity etc.... not wages.

how many websites out there ask for donations... there are hundreds. but most of them show how much they need and what its for, and often... its no great amount,
most often its to cover running costs, but if your asking for money to pay People, thats another thing entirely i reckon.

i dunno. as i say, i know where your coming from, but it doesnt feel right to me. you should operate within your means.
there are lots of ways of going about it. instead of paying one professional, you could cover the expenses of three or four committed volunteers.

maybe they have tried to do too much too soon.
like alex jones - if they did a three hour show once a day, costs would have been massively reduced, while still getting the message out,
and they wouldnt have to ask others to pay what i think is a massive wage bill.
even better still, why not do what i thought they were going to do,
which is to act as a hub for alternative programming from the broad spectrum of stuff in the alternative media?,
i know of lots of people who have some really exiting projects on the go,
who could really use a tv station that would get their message out to a wider audience.
(micheal tellinger for example)
how many people out there are capable of creating programming good enough for TPV,
and would happily put the effort in to create it, if they thought it would be broadcast on TPV?
instead of the 'few' who are currently there?.
theres a MASSIVE amount of stuff in the alt community which (with permission) could be aired. certainly enough to get the station on its feet.
and when the station is estblished.... THEN move onto 'live' stuff.
you really would only need funding for the essentials, paid staff would be only those required,

truthfully, with this post of mine.... i know i feel strongly about it, but... i dont quite know what it is i feel strongly about.

Flash

10th January 2014, 14:56

Flash

10th January 2014, 15:00

Kristin

10th January 2014, 15:51

Having been in film and TV for years, I am amazed that they have been afloat so long on such a pittance. I'm in awe of the work that TPV has done as a collective. Incredible! An entire studio from scratch up and running... wow. If you are not in the industry then let me put it in perspective. A 60 second average commercial spot to produce, not including airtime, might be able to squeeze in on a budget of 300,000. That is all. This is a live 24/7 broadcast.... hmmm. I'm more then impressed. I have to say THANK YOU to TPV for all the volunteer work and THANK YOU to David Icke for being a co-creator of the original concept.

From the Heart,
Kristin

SKAWF

10th January 2014, 19:46

When I do something thanks to my Professional talent, i expect to have enough money from it to be able to put bread on the table and have 2 weeks vacation a year. Otherwise, i am not there. SKAWF, you are misled, very few people will give their time and Professional expertise free, very very few unless they are retired and already have a source of revenue somewhere. People need to live SKAWF, expecting everything free comes to those that do not pay for their living expenses, either the very rich, or some of the generational very poors (welfare récipients who have never worked, not those that got into dire circumstances).

When you get too many free people, with or without talent, the management of it becomes so incredibly difficult that you end up failing. YOu do have to have paid workers, in any organisation.

That being said, since the budget is entirely from donations, the expenses and accounting should be made public as it always is for donation organisations in Canada, when they are public (some are private groups).

There is two places where it has to be closely monitored, for any organisation: the accounting, so that the least money as possible is getting out, and the sales/promotion, to get attention and presence (which is expensive), and therefore money. TPV has made mistakes in both, from an administrative point of view.

And those topics are really boring, so passionate people do not want to hear about them - their mistake. I have seen many organisations fail because of this.

Now, 24/7 is much asking from any organisation, i lived in those environments, I know. Their strategy, if any, was not very well planned, nor their market/presence research and niche check up. Many basic mistakes. It is not professionnal Television people they need or needed, it is good business administators and market professionals (social media and marketing niche strategists - because they don't know how to do it, in my opinion).

The most expensive: keeping a presence, the second most expensive: wages.

i'm not disagreeing with you where paying for professionals is concerned.
my beef is that its not TPV paying for them.... its the people who donate, who are paying for them.
and you say i'm 'misled'...... i am voicing my own opinion, i have not been lead, or mislead by anyone.

i do quite a lot of things, but if someone comes to me, and they have a project running which could use my equipmenmt or time/energy
often, i will charge them only for using the equipment. countless times i have given of my time and energy without payment,
because i believe in what they are trying to do.
as i said, rather then pay for one person full time, they could have found three or four people who are already working,
but who would give up some of their free time to volunteer to help, because they BELIEVE in what TPV is trying to do.

of course there are one or two roles which do require someone to be paid full time.
accounting?.... no. a friend of mine has an accountant who spends a total of 6 days per year on sorting out his accounts,

you also mention rent costs being cheap!!!!, i lived in london for 16 years rent is far from cheap. i live outside of london now, in a studio flat,
my rent is £800 per month - i have no effing idea how being in a large office space costs £1200 for ten months.

imo TPV has tried to run before it can walk. its taken alex jones about 20 years to get his business to the position its in,
and TPV has tried to do even more in terms of output, without having any means to pay for it, except donations. thats ridiculous as far as i'm concerned.

you also say that because the income is from donations, that the accounts should be public
the fact is, TPV is a PRIVATE limited company. it is under no obligation whatsoever to have its accounting in the public domain.

i will close this by repeating what i said earlier (something i think we both agree on)

IF, they had set their goal for programming to 3hrs of live (or even pre recorded, but original) output per day,
and the rest of the output created by the viewers, and people in the alternative community (of which there is a massive amount to choose from)

they would not be in the position where they had to pay so many people a full time wage.
not only that, by sourcing programs from outside, they would appeal to a much wider audience

as it is, its not the peoples voice. it is the voices of a few individuals. the PEOPLE are only connected to it, because they pay for it.
and the menu is very limited.

selinam

10th January 2014, 20:40

Not only can you not fool all of the people all of the time, but you can't please them either!

Selina

mpod001

17th January 2014, 15:27

chancy

17th January 2014, 16:10

Hello Martin:
Beings as you are new I would suggest using "search" before posting....This topic was covered extensively last week or so. I know sometimes things are missed on "search" but David Icke certainly is not.
Have a great day!

chancy

mpod001

17th January 2014, 16:17

May I offer you my humble apologies. I just saw the need and posted accordingly.

Gardener

17th January 2014, 16:22

Its ok it happens, welcome to Avalon!
'The Perception Deception' just arrived today and it's massive, I try to support David to the best of my ability, like Snowden, one of the heroes of out time....
best wishes

May I offer you my humble apologies. I just saw the need and posted accordingly.

chancy

17th January 2014, 18:45

May I offer you my humble apologies. I just saw the need and posted accordingly.

Hey there: No apologies needed unfortunately you will see multiple listings in the same subject on the forum and it tends to start a person to wonder - why? Searching to see if there is a similar thread keeps this at bay.....
Enjoy the threads....some of them are astonishing! Some are plain boring but overall there is a wealth of info here that can make everyone "Smile" at least for a moment.
Enjoy..............
chancy

mona

17th January 2014, 21:47

Another heads up for David Icke

YES he really does need our help....so please do what you can

Tesseract

17th January 2014, 23:52

Second video at the indigogo site really is worth listening to.

cursichella1

18th January 2014, 18:21

Namaste

Please everyone, if you can afford to, please can you make a pledge to The Peoples Voice as they are risking going off air...which if you've had the opportunity to view any of their programmes will know that would be a travesty. Please support them today by following the link provided.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-s-voice-must-get-louder

Can we also send out love and healing to David Icke who is very ill at this time.

Much love, light and strength to you all!

Martin
The People's Voice was just hacked, so I posted a new thread on this...http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67526-The-People--s-Voice-YouTube-Channel-Hacked-And-All-Content-Deleted&p=786051&viewfull=1#post786051

cursichella1

18th January 2014, 18:27

Swan

18th January 2014, 20:18

David Icke lamenting Russell Brands "fraudulent flatulence".

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/the-peoples-voice-youtube-channel-hacked-and-all-content-deleted/

Shezbeth

18th January 2014, 20:31

Earlier criticisms and observations aside, the recent attacks against TPV are rather telling. Perhaps it is a more effective platform/effort/construct than I had estimated, and I will admit to having only experienced a portion of their content. Though possible, I attribute a minute probability to this being a false-flag event/effort, and must therefore conclude that TPV may well be precisely what is needed for the masses (as opposed to the already awakened, which is the position from which I presume to operate in my critical analysis in the other thread).

I'll also admit, my financial situation is not conducive to donations at this time. I had a hard enough time scraping the money to buy "Human Race: GOYK", and seeing that they are asking for support is moderately grating because I am not in a position to offer it. Yet. I do hope they are able to 'hold the line' for a bit longer, where that may change.

Flash

19th January 2014, 00:27

Exactly. The multi levels attacks they have been Under are the signature of the cabal. It is enough to tell me that ehey have to be supported from all side, énergies, thinking, meditation, and MONEY.

Swan

19th January 2014, 15:00

And this would be a bump :)

I don´t know the details why Sonja Poulton left TPV, but in my opinion David Icke has proved his salt.

I agree with Sonja Poulton that more transparency in how the funds have been used would be nice. But I very much doubt that the funds have been squandered.

This morning I watched a chemtrail cross the first blue sky we´ve seen here in about a month. And I felt so glad that there was at least one channel where chemtrails were taken seriously.

Bill Ryan

20th January 2014, 17:39

Bill Ryan

20th January 2014, 17:53

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David Icke's statement here:

http://thepeoplesvoice.tv/the-peoples-voice-youtube-channel-hacked-and-all-content-deleted

YouTube Channel Hacked And All Content Deleted

For the last two weeks since TPV was publicly attacked in a concerted campaign to discredit the station many strange things have been happening with regard to hacking. This has included the hacking of the operating system, the hacking and defacing of the Indiegogo appeal page and now the hacking and deletion of reams of content from the TPV YouTube page.

Well, how they must care for the free-flow of information and human freedom.

The shop at Davidicke.com has also been hacked and currently deleted by hacking into emails sent by the webmaster by people who are beyond evil.

We are pretty certain who is behind this and who has been working with them from the ‘inside’ while claiming to be supporting the ethos. They, of course, do not and never have, and when they leave shortly there is little doubt that they will do everything they can to damage TPV once the benefits they have taken from the station have ended. When people say ‘all will be revealed in two weeks’ this is what they mean.

Good, and when they do the widest possible audience will know who they are and the nature of their character.

So the source of the ‘revelations’ when they come will also be revealing who is behind this attempt by hackers to destroy everything that we have built and The People have paid for.

Those that come from the heart rather than the gut and the bile duct will now begin the painstaking job of re-posting the content to the YouTube page because they are builders, not self-obsessed destroyers.

It is my experience over all the years that some of the deepest evil that I have come across has claimed to be opposing evil and ‘working for the light’ and the good of people.

What is happening here to TPV is yet another example.

Watching people self-destruct in public is not a pretty sight, but it is coming. So bring on the ‘revelations’ and then everyone will see who you are.

Limor Wolf

20th January 2014, 18:07

This is the third thread on that subject. I posted on the other one a while ago.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67093-Please-help-keep-David-Icke-and-the-peoples-Voice-on-the-air--It-will-be-gone-forever-in-a-month.&p=780442&viewfull=1#post780442

Hopefully TPV will get the funds it is deserved, for we can not really afford losing such a great stage for airing the real worthwhile information the public needs to know, these are the real conversations. It will be a real shame to lose the momentum or to let David Icke go home to his little Island. It is morally important that it will not happen.

Realeyes

20th January 2014, 18:28

I have been watching the People's Voice and what they have achieved so far is amazing on such a small budget. I have donated what I can, and I know others have done too. Then their is the selfless volunteers - god bless them all! If this goes down because the alternative communities refused to support this venture...... well there is not much one can say in the march for truth.

Here is David's latest speech done via skype due to ill health with the high work load he has been under. This is David giving a message out to the alternative community, all those who shout out for 'truth' - he doesn't mince his words, and I am sure there will be many critics on blogs and forums already expressing their opinions. Unfortunately this mind control of divide and conquer even bleeds through to the alternative thinkers.... just what the ptb planned. For me, I think it is about time we all just put aside our differences and look at what Future forward focus we all have in common and start the march from that stand point.

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Here you can find out from about the People's Voice Campaign for those who are interested http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-s-voice-must-get-louder

donk

20th January 2014, 19:28

It doesn't seem like she wants to support him anymore, so she's doing what she feels is right, sharing her perspective of him and this organization he's responsible for.

It seems to me it's the same as any other coporation, including the way PR is being handled now. Isn't DI better than this? Isn't TPV? One supposedly unhinged selfish ego-driven woman is really causing so much problems transmitting what she wants you to believe is her truth?

Seems to me no one should be defensive, unless they are in fear there may be some truth to what she says, whether it be the way he treats employees or runs a biz.

This doesn't take away anything great he's ever done for mankind. But just because someone does great things, that makes them exempt from any criticism, or even the mere suggestion that they may not be perfect?

Sure, maybe someone like me shouldn't get to criticize or judge--I'm trying not to. But then why does anyone get to criticize or judge HER?

I think we should be careful here, the David Icke I learned so much from and loved watching endless hours of taught me to never fear and always be loving and never act from "their mind"...this is an opportunity for him demonstrate that. I sure hope he does...

Limor Wolf

20th January 2014, 19:56

I do believe Sonia's initial intentions were good, otherwise she wouldn't join this cause while leaving a comfortable workplace and position. It is a shame though, that she chose to wash the laundry in public, if the cause was indeed infront of her at all times, that definitely did not help. We would never know what human beings are like under pressure, yes, David is a human being and is obviously under a lot of pressure and it is not fare to expect him to be on his best behaviour at all times under such conditions. Unrealistic actually. Niether does anyone else. There are diffrences of opinions and there are high emotions at times. Not if you are a gray, you don't. I guess Sonia poulton thought she needs to defend herself.
There are so many games being played nowdays on people.. when emotions are high the hidden third party is cracking the jackpot.. better stay quiet than sorry.

She may seem demanding and have pulled a petty ace on David Icke, but it does not mean that she has no important voice of her own in helping the truth to come out. Any comparison to David Icke will likely not flatter anyone, and that really means any one. He is one and only.

Hazel

21st January 2014, 10:17

Well said Limor.. thank you for such a well rounded and balanced view point.

YES.. the thing is there comes a tipping point for any human being. David has suffered/tolerated an avalanche of personal attack and denigration throughout his decades as an unrelenting Activist for Truth.. Therefore, while under such intense pressure via the launching of this immensely ambitious undertaking, he is not surprisingly depleted of his usual prodigious fight and resistance. It's clear that this latest betrayal has been the icing on the cake. What's more Mr. Ikes' arthritic condition is an auto-immune disease, which will inevitably undermine his general health increasingly as he ages. So... as so many others no doubt are at this time, I'm sending him energies for renewal.

We need to keep this beacon for the cause amped and burning bright...so l'm visualizing our champion as a battery being recharged by streams of neon blue light :laser:

Bill Ryan

21st January 2014, 13:55

All I can say is, looks like they're well rid of her.

Talk about throwing your toys out of the pram. She sounds like a complete nightmare to work with.

I hope they get everything back on air.

I have no other information than what's in the public domain, but I agree with indigopete's strong view above. No-one sincerely wanting to support David Icke would ever go public with this innuendo. It can only be destructive, and it's very hard to believe that Sonia Poulton doesn't know this full well.

If she does know it, she's destructive and has no place in TPV.
If she didn't know it, she's a dangerous, naive wild card and has no place in TPV.

For those new members who might not be aware, I know David personally, count him as a friend, and hold him in the highest regard. He has enormous vision and integrity. Very few people anywhere have done what he has done to support the cause of the freedom of the human race. Sonia Poulton stands against him, very small indeed. Everyone should be judged (if judged at all) by what they have or have not achieved for the good of all.

I forwarded the above post (#29 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67227-David-Icke-responds-to-Sonia-Poulton&p=786804&viewfull=1#post786804)) quoted to David as a note of support. He replied:

Cheers Bill ... much appreciated. The world is mad as you know and much like living in a kindergarten, but less mature.

I am doing fine - working too hard and too much but what people throw at me goes in one and out the other. I mean, when you visit an asylum and the inmates start shouting abuse at you, does it affect the way you see yourself and what you are doing??

Information, information, information is what matters - all the rest is detail and irrelevant diversions to focus.

Hope all is well with you, mate.

David

Limor Wolf

21st January 2014, 15:38

It would have been interesting to find the dot that David Icke looks at without moving his gaze, with this uncompromised focus.

We better find that dot.

Curt

21st January 2014, 15:54

Bill, it would be great if David would join Project Avalon. Have you invited him? It's a silly question, except it might have been so obvious he was welcome that you may not have formally invited him. Stranger things have happened.

All I can say is, looks like they're well rid of her.

Talk about throwing your toys out of the pram. She sounds like a complete nightmare to work with.

I hope they get everything back on air.

I have no other information than what's in the public domain, but I agree with indigopete's strong view above. No-one sincerely wanting to support David Icke would ever go public with this innuendo. It can only be destructive, and it's very hard to believe that Sonia Poulton doesn't know this full well.

If she does know it, she's destructive and has no place in TPV.
If she didn't know it, she's a dangerous, naive wild card and has no place in TPV.

For those new members who might not be aware, I know David personally, count him as a friend, and hold him in the highest regard. He has enormous vision and integrity. Very few people anywhere have done what he has done to support the cause of the freedom of the human race. Sonia Poulton stands against him, very small indeed. Everyone should be judged (if judged at all) by what they have or have not achieved for the good of all.

I forwarded the above post (#29 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67227-David-Icke-responds-to-Sonia-Poulton&p=786804&viewfull=1#post786804)) quoted to David as a note of support. He replied:

Cheers Bill ... much appreciated. The world is mad as you know and much like living in a kindergarten, but less mature.

I am doing fine - working too hard and too much but what people throw at me goes in one and out the other. I mean, when you visit an asylum and the inmates start shouting abuse at you, does it affect the way you see yourself and what you are doing??

Information, information, information is what matters - all the rest is detail and irrelevant diversions to focus.

Hope all is well with you, mate.

David

Carmody

21st January 2014, 16:02

When the stress hits people, then all their issues and problems, deepest ideas on how things are, what directions to move, what to do in specific instances, and so on...those things finally come to the surface.

In a trained machine that is made up of a group of informed and educated people, those things don't happen, as they have worked through those sort of modifiers and outliers in their behaviors and understandings, before they came to the junction that may be in front of them.

PTB types and their associations, they count on people not being organized. they count on people not understanding the depth of what they are getting into, as they have cultivated that position in people, for many decades.

If people want to know what David and his group are up against, they can take a look at wade Frasier's thread in the priority area. If one gets to actually exposing the hidden machinations of the various groups, then one will be encountering a well oiled machine with decades of depth in the modern context and tricks. Even if the group doing the work to expose is a newly shaped/minted threat to the PTB types, the ptb's methods and ways of attacking those individuals, and their connections, is not. It is decades to centuries deep in lore, skill, and intent.

People should understand what they are getting into when they do these things and I'm hoping that David's staff are understanding that what they are on the receiving end of is a free and easy lesson, a stage one minimal threat, that is close to a zero on the scale of what can happen.

I hope this serves notice to the rest of them of how to handle and understand things when the going gets tough, as the tough part has not even started yet.

One way of knowing the realities, that most people do not want to confront, is that if one wants change, and they want it at the deepest levels..as this is what these kinds of endeavors entail..then one must understand that they are risking it all, at the deepest levels. Risk and reward are a matched pair,and there is no way of squeaking past this aspect. The position the human race is in, is connected to this issue of people trying to lie to the self, of not looking deep enough about this sort of simple equation.

The only thing that has any history of mitigating this sort of risk, is NUMBERS. Then the equation moves to infiltration and breaking coherence and cohesion in the group. All kinds of tactics work in sequence and parallel to one another.

Anyone attempting to get to the point of what David is doing, tends to require a thorough understanding of the psychology of covert operations and covert war. And if they can't focus and do their job in the face of that and it's unfolding, then they should not be involved.

I tend to be of the mind that if people knew the risks of ~not~ being involved to help push this insanity out of the human race's path, then they would jump in wholeheartedly.

Just a note on what goes on in the idea of attacking David, attacking what he is attempting, what that means for the rest of us, what the bickering means on this forum, and the world at large...and so on.

I, for one, cannot believe in the idea and act of attacking ANYONE for making ANY effort to help clear themselves and their lives of this vicious level of subversive intrusion.

To come here, into this thread, and give David or his attempts, some grief, in any way, for trying to do what he and his group is doing is the most petty, childish, insane, weak, illiterate, short sighted, unthinking mutterings that I've seen.

The problem being, is that we see far too much of the child and almost none of the learned adult.

Govern yourselves like you are TRYING to help this planet, not like bickering children. Which is exactly the kind of issue that David was speaking of, regarding kindergarten.

You are literally in the middle of a covert and hidden WAR, so Get it straight and keep it straight. Do not put this thought down, ever. Keep it as a kernel in the self, at all times. After a while you'll be able to hold it with less stress, but it cannot be put away, as the old habits and mindset will be retained (slip back into place) and that will be your downfall. As those aspects, the return to mental rest and ease.... are the considerations of how to be and how to interact.... that are tearing your efforts down.

No focus. It must be focus on/in all things, to an all encompassing threat which requires an understanding of being 'all in, on all levels' -which is the level of threat against you. The threat is 'all in -on all levels'. That there is no safety in moving away from this threat that is in front of us, as the threat is in and at all levels. No matter how difficult it is to deal with that thought, it must be held in the mind until it transforms the fundamentals of one's thinking. If not, it is a slow downward spiral into the open face of slavery, and death of a sort...a downturn of a never ending total war, against you. No future.

You are dealing with total war, against all, against every bit of humanity as it stands and any form of that involving consciousness and self determination.

The resources that will be piled against you, are from hidden areas and have been developed for decades and the owners and controllers of those systems go back for centuries, and are well perfected in their craft.

Carmody

21st January 2014, 16:31

It would have been interesting to find the dot that David Icke looks at without moving his gaze, with this uncompromised focus.

We better find that dot.

Absolutely, in total agreement.

This is not a game folks.

You, all you know, all the people and connections you have, all the considerations you have in love, life, laughter, growth...the children you have, grandchildren....all of it....anything you can think of or imagine... none of it can hide from this.

AlaBil

21st January 2014, 16:38

Carmody... What a great insight!

I love this thought: "You are literally in the middle of a covert and hidden WAR, so Get it straight and keep it straight. Do not put this thought down, ever."

You are literally in the middle of a covert and hidden WAR, so Get it straight and keep it straight. Do not put this thought down, ever. Keep it as a kernel in the self, at all times. After a while you'll be able to hold it with less stress, but it cannot be put away, as the old habits and mindset will be retained (slip back into place) and that will be your downfall. As those aspects, the return to mental rest and ease.... are the considerations of how to be and how to interact.... that are tearing your efforts down.

No focus. It must be focus on/in all things, to an all encompassing threat which requires an understanding of being 'all in, on all levels' -which is the level of threat against you. The threat is 'all in -on all levels'. That there is no safety in moving away from this threat that is in front of us, as the threat is in and at all levels. No matter how difficult it is to deal with that thought, it must be held in the mind until it transforms the fundamentals of one's thinking. If not, it is a slow downward spiral into the open face of slavery, and death of a sort...a downturn of a never ending total war, against you. No future.

You are dealing with total war, against all, against every bit of humanity as it stands and any form of that involving consciousness and self determination.

The resources that will be piled against you, are from hidden areas and have been developed for decades and the owners and controllers of those systems go back for centuries, and are well perfected in their craft.

Carmody

21st January 2014, 16:39

Sure, maybe someone like me shouldn't get to criticize or judge--I'm trying not to. But then why does anyone get to criticize or judge HER?

Sure, Donk, but....

She should be of understanding of the level of involvement and risk, and be judging and criticizing herself accordingly.

It is evident that she is not. If she had, then none of this would have ever happened, or most specifically, unfolded publicly, as it has.. As stated, she is either naive, dangerous, or both.

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To iterate, imagine that Micheal newton is right. that we are beings from a mental plane, mental or energetic dimension... and this is a holographic universe and it is based on consciousness.

Which, for even the creator of quantum mechanics, Max Planck, that was his thoughts on the matter. (he indicated this in his original ideas, that the quantum universe is self intelligent - consciousness)

Now, how does an intelligent energetic being or an energetic universe, how does it hold it's intelligence and growth from instinctual and emotional considerations (which is the egg or child state) to the fruition point of self awareness and growth?

Focus.

Focus ...which is continual in all ways on all levels, in all things, which is never put down, not even for a second. It is held, and grown. Self is awareness and awareness of self, the original moment of moving from instinct and basics, to the 'I AM' moment and then growth into controlled focus and intent, within a walk in and of self awareness.

Instinct and emotions are turned into being self awareness and focus. The training wheels come off. To drive on your own, but with not the negative coloration of unawareness that can be enacted on emotions and instincts - via external pressures.

donk

21st January 2014, 16:58

I personally value criticism…WAY more than praise, it allows me to grow as a person and see myself how others view me, so this is intended as a gift of sorts:

I find that message very condescending, and think you should consider keeping it private.
I see the comment from indigopete you keep using as an “attacking the attacker” with no real relevant information.
I don’t understand what information you are bringing into the issue, it all seems like diversion to me, here’s how:

The issue is that he got accused of mismanaging the organization (particularly the spending) and then acted abusively when confronted with it. Whether the accusations are true or not, none of the information from the public domain (to me) implies that SP was at that time sincerely supporting David, which is the postulate you base your speculations on.

So using David’s criteria—I would not consider what you provided (SP is a nightmare to work with, destructive, naïve mad, abusive, immature…all basically saying what you repeat, she has “no place at TPV”) to be relevant “information”, rather to me (by his statement) it seems it is all “detail and irrelevant diversions to focus”. We already KNOW she has “no place at TPV”, because she is publicly declaring to us the reasons she wants us to know why she doesn’t feel like she has a place at TPV….it is the entire issue—of which we are hoping for information.

I understand you want to support your friend, and that you may choose to see this post as an attack. I assure, it is not intended as one, it is just the perspective of an immature kindergartner down here in the asylum, hoping to remind you that not everybody fell in love with your friend the way most Avalonians (myself included) have or know him personally like you do…and the way this is being handled might look like some “old boy’s club” elite “how-dare-you-question-me” stuff to some people if you are not careful…

Carmody

21st January 2014, 17:12

Donk, consider not giving yourself grief. It's really that simple.

To explain:

The Buddhist group ...that is what they are about. When the student comes to the enclave, the Buddhist master volunteers to be come the focal point of the student's act of attempting to come to terms with self.

In that act, the various master(s) (if one chooses that word, it is not the correct one - it has no bearing in clear thought) integrate with the student in a way that begins the process of self recognition of the point that.....origins of the problems all reside in the self.

donk

21st January 2014, 21:43

Thanks Carmody, I'll do more consider it, I will actually do it. I didn't consider my sharing of my perspective as giving anyone (especially myself) grief, I mistakenly believed that I was just saying what I see and feel as best as I could at the time. I am ok with being wrong, and think it is very good advice to evaluate my self & perspective, I do appreciate it.

Maybe I will find that I am the problem after all, and that my original perspective (can I assume you see it as "giving grief"? Projecting? Or am I misinterpreting you?) is as full of projection and attacks and diversions as I am seeing in others, and I'll come to the correct point of view.

Perhaps others beside just me may well served to do the same? I personally think it is a truly wise thing to do

kooky

22nd January 2014, 01:08

The mods on his forum are doing their best to cover it up but a lot more info has been released by people who work there naming names and the kind of things that have gone on and none of it looks good. The mistreatment of Chris Spivey which has generated a huge backlash against the station and it's not looking good for David. Now there is barely any talk on David Icke's on forum about the TPV because anyone that dares question anything gets suspended or banned.

The scary thing i said was people giving weeks wages to it, one guy is having a car boot sale which he hopes to make £500 on because he just donated £500 of his wages to the station, I hope for his sake he does make that kind of money. People on benefits donating more and more and admitting they don't have it. People cancelling their TV licence to donate money. That's what it comes down to. Money

First it was £100,000. Then £300,000. Now after only 7 weeks on air they want another £400,000. So after 7 weeks on air they HOPE to have £700,000 and they even admit that if they get this £400,000 that that's only to bridge a gap and more funding will be needed because no advertisiing has kicked in. What David Icke doesn't seem to realise is that he may have garnered support for the station but there is an awful lot of people, advertisers included that wont go anywhere near the station due to his name being involved. David likes to talk about how he doesn't take a penny, he already makes plenty from his books and speaking engagements anyway, and how he stood down as Director of the company so he could just be a volunteer. What David doesn't tell the viewers, and the legal documents are online, is that the reason he stepped down was because he got refused an Ofcom licence for the station. Ofcom said they didn't think he was suitable for a licence. So he signed the company over to Sean ADL because they obviously don't have the history Icke has and deem him mentally ok to run it and David now is not involved but the real reason wouldn't be mentioned.

Talk of sex, bullying of Sonia Poulton and their real names have been revealed and I've seen some comments and no doubt Facebook will have been used by many people lead me to believe that things aren't all rosey in London. Then David Icke blames everyone for no donations. Blames his millionaire friend Russell Brand for not donating. He doesn't even realise that outside his forum, his bubble, most people in the mainstream will not go near him due to his beliefs. He told people £100,000, then changed to £300,000 and that's not good enough, now it's £400,000 and a lot of people's attitudes towards this are.......if we give you £400,000, is that going to be good enough or do we get shouted at again for not giving enough? Maybe the business just isn't viable. Maybe he should have started off like Alex Jones did, 3 hours a day, in a small studio and get the information out there. That's what it is about right? Information? Then as the years go by you can build it up with big studios and employees and different presenters and shows. It's just not a viable business just now.

Carmody

22nd January 2014, 02:48

Bill Ryan

22nd January 2014, 14:12

we need as little whispering among ourselves as we can commit to.

Amen to that!

TargeT

22nd January 2014, 16:37

I understand you want to support your friend, and that you may choose to see this post as an attack. I assure, it is not intended as one, it is just the perspective of an immature kindergartner down here in the asylum, hoping to remind you that not everybody fell in love with your friend the way most Avalonians (myself included) have or know him personally like you do…and the way this is being handled might look like some “old boy’s club” elite “how-dare-you-question-me” stuff to some people if you are not careful…

I think this is a very good point.

NO ONE is above question; ever.

one of the favorite tactics of the system that is in place is to build up a good name then use that as a shield to do what ever is desired. (or buy a good name and do the same) for example: the word "Organic" has been heavily co-op'ed.

on a more local scale I recently called out a much loved, charitable older man on actions (and in-action) that needed changing; this was met with some resistance and the best defense could be "well look at all he's done" "he fed homeless people" as if that one days act wipes away all other actions.

we need to be wary, always, question and seek clarification, always.

This questioning should not be seen as a threat, just the seeking of understanding.

vilcabamba

28th January 2014, 07:32

ha ha
i work in internet marketing and any website can be done for under $2000 dollars ..he says he paid $15,000 pounds for a website..geesh.! That's mismanagement. $15,000 pounds is like 25000 dollars for a website that can be done for 2000 dollars.

What a joke.
He was given 500,000 dollars and he ran through it in a couple of months. That's a slap in the face to all his supporters. I'm sorry, but there is a ton of information on the internet and no one gets paid that amount, most people do it for free. And he went through enough money that could pay for food for 30 years for some people.

halffull

31st January 2014, 14:02

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Sidney

31st January 2014, 16:28

here is the correct link

http://www.enigmatv.com/the_enigma_channel/Sign_Up.html

Camilo

12th February 2014, 18:19

http://youtu.be/x-IsNZiPfRM (54 min. video)

Published on Feb 10, 2014

Richie Allen talks to world famous author and researcher David Icke about the weeks news, and connects apparently unconnected events and people to present a bigger picture of happenings in the world.

David Icke has been challenging our perceptions of how our world works for 25 years. David was an experienced mainstream journalist before he began to look behind the curtain, so to speak. Whilst I do not agree with everything David has spoken of, I have come to agree with most of it, based primarily on my own personal experience.

This video by David from his recent Internet TV venture, The People’s Voice, spells out how things are run from behind the scenes, even behind those on-planet that I often refer to, such as the Rothschilds. He talks of the Archon force, what I would refer to simply as the dark force, that lies behind the manipulation of the human experience. Not only does David talk about this, he provides illustrations, historical and recent, and shares his own experience. Based on my own experience in the work I have done over the last 7-8 years, I would agree with everything he says here, and he lays it out simply and with great clarity. Until you begin to understand this, you cannot begin to understand the games behind the games on our planet.

It is my view that we live in the time when this is ending. May it be so. When you eliminate the background force driving this, what is happening on Earth becomes very easy to deal with. And if you don’t understand what David is speaking of here, you are inevitably tilting at windmills on one level or another, which is where most who want to see change in our world, including with the NSA and the Internet are coming from, or those who point to the political and military games on the planet, or why knowledge of advanced past civilisations on our planet have been suppressed, or… They are all tilting at their particular windmill, and until you understand the deeper picture, you cannot understand why nothing changes and why you will not change it or see it change. But when you look at it from where David does, some of the bizarre dots that don’t seem to fit all begin to join up.

In this video, David discusses today’s news from this context, as he does most days, and the illustrations provide very tangible examples in our moment-to-moment world of how the game is played. Again, I agree with every one of his examples.

RP

Cidersomerset

13th February 2014, 16:22

Always an interesting discussion when Alex and David get together, and this was
no exception. Whether you agree with them or not they discuss some current topics,
from trans humanism to controlling the web and more.

David Icke on the Alex Jones Show – The Perception Deception

Thursday 13th February 2014 at 05:53 By David Icke

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Alex is joined live from the UK by David Icke about the emerging trend of
Transhumanism. The globalists are selling robotic and mechanical implants to the
general public as a good thing. But as Icke points out during this interview, these
technologies can and will be used to limit human liberty and provide a tiny elite
with unforeseen power and control.

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Published on 11 Feb 2014

Alex continues with special guest David Icke regarding his new book "The
Perception Deception" and how exactly we allow the Elite to control us through
education, media and modern technology
www.davidicke.com
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetec...
http://www.infowars.com/united-nation...

Please Circulate far and wide.

The Link to send to is …

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/david-icke-on-the-alex-jones-show-the-perception-deception/

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One of the items they discuss...

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nevermnd

17th February 2014, 00:40

Great episode with David Icke. Touches on a lot of hot topics that are being presently discussed here on Avalon.
I highly recommend watching/listening to it.
Thanks Camilo for the link!

Cidersomerset

26th February 2014, 19:43

David caught me out on this...LOL Its on todays headline dated today and I
thought it was a new appearance on Alex's show, and as I was watching it got
more and more de ja vous, still a good interview but not new, ...Cheers steve

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Alex Jones & David Icke - Satanism and Elite Pedophile Rings

Wednesday 26th February 2014 at 05:57 By David Icke

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Please circulate far and wide.

The link to send to is …

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/david-icke-on-the-alex-jones-show-satanism-and-elite-pedophile-rings/

Alex Jones welcomes English writer and lecturer David Icke on the historic non-stop 48
hour Infowars Money Bomb broadcast about Jimmy Saville and the establishment's
grand scale coverup of industrialised pedophilia. And also how the parasitic, demonic
global elite practise wide scale child abuse and satanic rituals as they continue to move
forwards in implementing their nefarious "New World Order".

British author David Icke has written 20 books and traveled to over 55 countries since
1990. His books reveal how a hidden hand is behind world-changing events like the
attacks of 9/11 and the manufactured wars in the Middle East, as part of a mass mind
manipulation technique he has dubbed problem-reaction-solution. While being
controversial and often heavily ridiculed and attacked, David Icke has driven on with his
unrelentless investigation into subject areas that others don't dare touch. He reveals
information that has been kept from a "dumbed down" population and has allowed the
establishment to treat them as nothing more than slaves to a sinister hidden agenda.

His books are some of the most comprehensive exposés of the global conspiracy ever
written and among them are: And the Truth Shall Set You Free, The Biggest Secret,
Remember Who You Are and Human Race Get Off Your Knees: The Lion Sleeps No More.

Many have dubbed Icke as the "most controversial speaker" on the planet. They used to
laugh at him, but now they come in the thousands to hear him speak all over the world.

Nonetheless, David's words are designed to inspire all of us to be who we really are, to
fling open the door of the mental prison we build for ourselves and to walk into the light
of freedom.

David Icke's website: http://www.davidicke.com/

Cidersomerset

27th February 2014, 13:57

This is a very good interview, just listened to it again a good interpretation of events
so far in his dot connecting and Alex does not interrupt to much......

Cidersomerset

27th February 2014, 14:25

Again this has been posted before but , but is mentioned by David above
and is a powerfull insight into the wold of elite paedophile/Satanism

Michael Shrimpton Exposes Ted Heath (and others)

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Published on 17 Jan 2013

What David Icke has said since 1998 about paedophile and child killing Prime
Minister Ted Heath is backed-up here by barrister Michael Shrimpton, an
Intelligence and national security consultant, from his own contacts and inside
experience

Michael Shrimpton says that Prime Minister Heath (1916--2005) was a paedophile
who murdered his young boy victims or had others do it, often by throwing them
into the sea after Heath had abused them on his yacht.

The record-breaking paedophile and BBC 'star' Jimmy Savile supplied boys for
Heath - many of them from the Jersey children's home, Haut de la Garenne, with
the support of those who ran the home.

These facts were covered up by Heath Cabinet Secretary John Hunt, Baron Hunt of
Tanworth, who Shrimpton says was also a paedophile. Hunt was appointed by the
Queen to be a Companion, Knight Commander and Knight Grand Cross of the
British Order of chivalry known as the The Most Honourable Order of the Bath of
which the Queen is the head and Prince Charles the Grand Master. Hunt was also
given a Papal Knighthood by Pope John Paul II - so was Jimmy Savile who was also
knighted by the Queen.

Jimmy Savile was a close friend of Lord Mountbatten, Prince Philip and Prince
Charles from the 1960s and this continued for decades AFTER the cover up of
Heath's paedophilia and child murder in league with Savile. You mean they didn't
KNOW? Is someone having a laugh? British Intelligence didn't know? Ditto.

What's more ... AFTER the Heath-Savile cover up, Savile became such a close
friend of Heath's successor and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her husband
Denis that he was invited to be with them on New Year's Eve every year for more
than a decade.

Thatcher's government and circle of associates and aides was alive with
paedophiles including Chester MP Peter Morrison, a close aide to Thatcher from
1975 to 1990. He was a notorious paedophile, well known to colleagues and the
media, and yet Thatcher and her Cabinet and inner circle did NOTHING while he
was abusing boys in North Wales children's homes and elsewhere. Anyone in that
circle MUST have known. Thatcher minister Edwina Currie wrote in her published
diaries:

'One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be
very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM's PPS [Parliamentary Private
Secretary]. Now he's what they call a 'noted pederast', with a liking for young boys;
he admitted as much to [Conservative Party chairman] Norman Tebbit when he
became deputy chairman of the party but added' 'However, I'm very discreet' - and
he must be! She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn't; either
way, it's a really dumb move.

[Conservative MP] Teresa Gorman told me this evening (in a taxi coming back from
a drinks party at the BBC) that she inherited Morrison's (woman) agent, who
claimed to have been offered money to keep quiet about his activities. It scares me
as all the press know, and as we get closer to the election someone is going to
make trouble, very close to her indeed.'

I named Edward Heath as a serial paedophile and child killer in my book, The
Biggest Secret, first published in 1998 -- seven years before he died. I also named
him and his Chancellor of the Exchequer Anthony Barber as practicing Satanists, as
I did the leading members of the royal family. Heath was read what I said by an
excuse for a 'journalist' days after publication and he did nothing because to do so
would have had the truth exposed in court -- as it would be now if anyone from the
Thatcher cesspit wants a go. Michael Shrimpton mentions Barber in this interview
as being in league with Heath and Cabinet Secretary Hunt.

If Operations Fairbank and Fernbridge, the police investigations into political
and 'elite' paedophilia, don't not make arrests of big political and royal names so
they can be questioned under caution then it, too, will be shown to be a cover up
given the evidence that mounts all the time.

Michael Shrimpton goes on to talk about what he says happened to the abducted
little girl Madeleine McCann, the assassination of Princess Diana, the murder of
weapons expert David Kelly who could have trashed the lies used to justify the Blair
invasion of Iraq, and what Shimpton says was the murder of former British Foreign
Secretary Robin Cook.

I can't confirm what he says about Madeleine or Cook but for sure I can with
everything else with regard to Heath, Savile and the Conservative Party and
government. Nor do I agree with all of his assumptions about who was behind it all,
and certainly not that British Intelligence are the 'good guys'. But it is very
interesting information very much worth hearing.

Michael Shrimpton is the author of the book, Spyhunter, which he hopes to publish
this year.

Cidersomerset

2nd March 2014, 18:47

David Icke on Red Ice Radio – The Perception Deception

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http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/02/RIR-140228.php

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/david-icke-on-red-ice-radio-the-perception-deception/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

This is a new interview on Red ice, not the one released last sept which
is on U/tube and looks similar.

grannyfranny100

2nd March 2014, 22:55

This interesting interview is a good one. Icke's current book sounds like the one book of many to keep around as an overview of his work.

Cidersomerset

4th March 2014, 12:59

I'm listening to the rest of the interview at the moment aprox 57 mins
David is giving an example about an article he read from a Swiss
clairvoyant, and he is describing how on some people particularly
power driven occupations , he does not see their light bodies,
but its cloudy like shiny tar and picks up a reptilian image.
David explains it better,,,,,

http://growingwiththeseasons.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/light_body-1-300x226.jpg

http://palaeos.com/vertebrates/amniota/images/shapeshifter.jpg

Journeyon

4th March 2014, 14:15

Thanks for sharing this Cidersomerset! I listened to it last night and thought is was a great interview. I only heard the first hour but it was excellent. I agree with you about the clairvoyant seeing the light body or with some the tar like substance and reptile. How disturbing!

Another comment that stuck out to me was when David talked about keeping us in a "us vs them mentality". I see that so often in all media, politics, and often here on the forum. Where rather than allowing, compassion, empathy, kindness. There is attack, judgment, condescension. When we react to others in any way other than kindness we are playing into the archon agenda. It makes me feel even more vigilant about keeping my heart light burning.

In Peace,
Journeyon

Arak

26th March 2014, 20:30

Yesterday I watched
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDGSvDtS10 and although it had nothing new info for me, I still think it was intresting and well explained crash course about how evil archons control everything on this planet. But one thing wonders me... David did not give any advice how to fight against cabal and archons? I dont know his agenda too well, but if someone else does, could you please tell me is it all just fear porn or does he also speak about hope and possible forces of light that could help us? There must be some if there are also archons?

Rocky_Shorz

29th March 2014, 19:47

the alternative community is a incredible source of information, right now with everything going on from Dirty nukes to attempted false flag attacks and launching of WW III... the list goes on and on...

mainstream news tries to fill people's mind of what they want you to think about...

for the gifted, a complete waste of time...

if you consider the main characters as teachers, like Bill, David, Fulford, etc. each with different styles of delivery, but their main messages are the same, expose what they can, to allow the followers to track down and stop or destroy the problems...

We have been attracted here and gathered for a reason, the more you learn, the more you understand. The harder the cabal struggles, the more we quietly tie them down. a million soldier ants can take down a giant...

if you have to ask, you shouldn't be picking up your battery powered light saber and jumping into battle... at least yet...

it is a slow learning process, starting with smaller battles and moving forward.

when you get to the dark forces behind our shadow governments, it is a dangerous area to be stumbling into in an OBE

learn beyond the stories, they are just a stepping stone toward truths...

no fear is enlightenment...

Camilo

22nd April 2014, 21:07

http://youtu.be/xesn6DXbvWE

Published on 10/09/2013

Everything we know about our human origins, our future, and the true nature of the Universe is wrong. Our isolation here on Earth will soon be coming to an end. The facts presented in this film will shock and amaze you so be prepared, everything is not what it seems.

LivioRazlo

22nd April 2014, 22:56

David Icke is one of a kind. If I can find a good deal, I am planning on going to his lecture at Wembly Arena this year in October.

Camilo

22nd April 2014, 23:09

David Icke is one of a kind. If I can find a good deal, I am planning on going to his lecture at Wembly Arena this year in October.

I agree. If I could, I would go as well.

Azt

23rd April 2014, 00:21

David Icke is great but too much commercial stoppage on the video, I think it is at least half-hour of commercials banner ads, is YouTube becoming a TV ?

Sidney

23rd April 2014, 02:21

David Icke is great but too much commercial stoppage on the video, I think it is at least half-hour of commercials banner ads, is YouTube becoming a TV ?

Ad block plus, should take care of it.

Johnny

23rd April 2014, 08:11

David Icke is great but too much commercial stoppage on the video, I think it is at least half-hour of commercials banner ads, is YouTube becoming a TV ?

Ad block plus, should take care of it.

YouTube with this size, I use to take up on a USB-stick and see it on TV. You can use keepvid.com to download it with, and if you have put Addblock plus on your computer, then allow it on this site (it use java to run) choose mp4 (NOT only video, then there will be no sound on it). You do not have to download anything from keepvid.com other than the movie, so do not push any other download button. It is a good thing to do, you can invite family and friends to see it also. :)

Regards Johnny

Edit: There will be NO advertisements on the download !!

Cidersomerset

23rd April 2014, 10:49

I started watching this a couple months ago and think its from the late 1990's...

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Published on 10 Sep 2013

4.75 Hours. UFOTV®, accept no imitations. Posted by permission only!
Everything we know about our human origins, our future, and the true
nature of the Universe is wrong. Our isolation here on Earth will soon
be coming to an end. The facts presented in this film will shock and
amaze you so be prepared, everything is not what it seems.

Camilo

23rd April 2014, 12:44

David Icke is great but too much commercial stoppage on the video, I think it is at least half-hour of commercials banner ads, is YouTube becoming a TV ?

I guess it depends on the location/country you are at. I didn't get a single ad at all.

Johnny

23rd April 2014, 14:44

As I understand it, it is the YouTube downloader that got the money for the advertisements. I do not have Adblock Plus on my Internet Explorer, and when I search advice/guidance on Youtube, (which e.g. was a great help to me, when I for the first time should have Linux on a computer) I think it is OK to see/hear whatever, knowing they get some money out of it.

As I said before, when you download the YouTube whatever, you will not have advertisements.

I have just tested Adblock Plus on IE, it works :) In FireFox You can turn off and allow a single site to pass (icon in the top right side), which I found out was a good thing here on Avalon, the YouTube and one more button disappeared, until I allowed PA to go through. I do not see the same options in IE. (it is everything or nothing :) )

Regards Johnny

Edit: Just found out, IE has 'the' icon on the bottom to the right.

Cidersomerset

7th May 2014, 17:19

David Icke Interview Outside The Box Part 1

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Published on 6 May 2014

My talk with David Icke about fear, indoctrination, and our great responsibility to escape
its many forms which perpetuate our system of debt, suppression, and the false belief
that humanity is free. David helps us understand our system that programmes people,
and keeps us in a revolving door of anxiety, debt and fear, and how it has lassoed the
expanded awareness, creativity and perception of the population, making our insane
system seem normal. We remind people that our feelings of despair, emptiness, anxiety
and depression are normal responses from a healthy mind and body in a system which
is crazy and suppressing it. We also talk about the importance of us reconnecting with
our feelings, intuitive perception, and the urgency to see past our labels of race and
religion which keep us fighting ourselves and each other.

David Icke Interview Outside The Box Part 2

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mosquito

8th May 2014, 02:51

This was, as usual a great interview.

You know it's weird, whenever I feel depressed or in need of inspiration, it's nearly always David Icke that the universe sends my way.

Thanks Steve, and David of course !

Cardillac

8th May 2014, 15:36

and yet the dis-info campaign continues against Icke; start here:

http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/david-icke.html

I used to have respect for this website but I will now enjoy it with caution; where is the (non-provided) documented proof that David Icke is a 2-mil. dollar (why not provide/equate the monetary info in British Sterling?- after all it's his currency) a year man or that the company 'David Icke Books Ltd.' even exists (read the comments on the provided link then make up your own mind)-

if one has info on this forum CONCRETELY proving David Icke is a fake then please publish it; I always have an open mind and my view of the world is always open to revisionism-

but if such entities as David Icke and Kevin Annett (+ many others) are revealed to be con-artists (although I find it strange Icke has never sourced, to my knowledge, Kevin Annett- WHY?- I don't have the answer- but his silence regarding Annett is deafening) then humanity has no hope-

I don't have the answer to any of this- am just throwing out ideas...

please be well all-

Larry

Cidersomerset

8th May 2014, 15:45

DAVID ICKE America The End Game . Police State & New World Order is Here

A good sound bite at the start of this observation.....

The United States is not the 'land of the free and home of the brave '
Its the 'land of the Fee and home of the slave'.....

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Albuquerque Residents Vow to Storm Another City Council Meeting

new Thursday 8th May 2014 at 06:42 By David Icke

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‘Albuquerque, NM residents have vowed to storm another city council meeting set
for tomorrow just days after they forced councilors to flee following a raucous
protest against police brutality.

Demonstrators crowded Albuquerque city council chambers on Monday before
serving a “people’s arrest warrant” against Albuquerque police chief Gorden Eden,
causing him to make a hasty dash for the exit. Protesters also called for the
removal of Mayor Richard Berry.

Residents are irate about rampant police brutality and corruption, with Albuquerque
law enforcement officers having been responsible for 40 shootings since 2010, of
which 25 were fatalities. The U.S. Justice Department also released a report last
month which called for institutional reform to stem “patterns of excessive force”
that have dogged the police department.’

Read more: Albuquerque Residents Vow to Storm Another City Council Meeting

http://www.infowars.com/albuquerque-residents-vow-to-storm-another-city-council-meeting/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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LA County Sheriff Admits Big Brother Is Here ‘But We Kept It Pretty Hush Hush’

Tuesday 6th May 2014 at 06:32 By David Icke

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‘“This is the future if nothing is done to stop it,” is the ominous way The Atlantic
describes the recent Big Brother tactics used by LA County Sheriffs to “police” areas
such as Compton.

Residents were unaware (“A lot of people do have a problem with the eye in the
sky, the Big Brother, so to mitigate those kinds of complaints we basically kept it
pretty hush hush“)that, as the police stated, “we literally watched all of Compton
during the times that we were flying, so we could zoom in anywhere within the city
of Compton and follow cars and see people,” as they trialled a new system which if
adopted, would mean Americans can be policed like Iraqis and Afghanis under occupation.

As The Atlantic concludes, the sheriff didn’t conclude that the “wide area
surveillance” wouldn’t be like Big Brother after all, just that Big Brother capabilities
would help to solve more crimes… so why not tryout mass surveillance?’

Read more: LA County Sheriff Admits Big Brother Is Here 'But We Kept It Pretty Hush Hush'

http://www.infowars.com/la-county-sheriff-admits-big-brother-is-here-but-we-kept-it-pretty-hush-hush/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/2014/05/06/

Cidersomerset

8th May 2014, 15:59

and yet the dis-info campaign continues against Icke; start here:

http://aanirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/david-icke.html

Most of these are allegations against the man not the message.....

The alternate is that everything in the world is normal and its
just human nature to want to have wars and live our life here
to service the elites. I would not take any notice of the article
he has been discussing this since 1990 a bit mud will have
bound to have stuck. He is a god experiencing this existence
as David Icke as we all are in our individual realities and
this is the secret the elites want to keep quite so we can
keep them in luxery and power.

http://www.tribulationinstitute.com/illuminati_pyramid_organization.jpg

lysander

8th May 2014, 19:40

Solid Ike video, can't recommend it enough.

Cidersomerset

9th May 2014, 17:54

This is a separate vid to the one I put up yesterday, he starts off talking about
his new book, some of it is similar to the other one, but David covers so
much he always touches on something different from the matrix to the nostic
writings about the Archons and more.......

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Sage of Quay Radio – David Icke – The Perception Deception (May 2014)

Friday 9th May 2014 at 08:49 By David Icke

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‘Tonight our very special guest is David Icke. David is one of the preeminent
researchers in the alternative research community. David has steadfastly pursued the
truth and exposed the hidden forces behind the enslavement of humanity. He is
arguably the world’s most controversial author, having spent the last quarter of a
century unraveling the secrets of the Universe, reality and the forces that manipulate
our world.

David’s latest book, The Perception Deception, connects the dots based on a lifetime of
research and insight about our ‘computer’-simulated reality, the holographic universe
and the hidden non-human archonic forces that are manipulating human life via hybrid
bloodline families and networks into a global Orwellian state of total control.’

Please circulate far and wide.

The link to send to is …

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/sage-of-quay-radio-david-icke-the-perception-deception-may-2014/

Camilo

9th May 2014, 19:19

http://youtu.be/Ny72j2Os-XU

Published on 05/07/2014

Host Mike Williams interviews David Icke.

Tonight our very special guest is David Icke. David is one of the preeminent researchers in the alternative research community. David has steadfastly pursued the truth and exposed the hidden forces behind the enslavement of humanity. He is arguably the world's most controversial author, having spent the last quarter of a century unraveling the secrets of the Universe, reality and the forces that manipulate our world.

David's latest book, The Perception Deception, connects the dots based on a lifetime of research and insight about our 'computer'-simulated reality, the holographic universe and the hidden non-human archonic forces that are manipulating human life via hybrid bloodline families and networks into a global Orwellian state of total control.

Cidersomerset

9th May 2014, 19:41

The Perception Deception, David Icke’s Game-Changing New Book,
Now Shipping And Available As An Immediate E-Book Download

Friday 9th May 2014 at 07:17 By David Icke

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The Perception Deception is destined to be a work recorded by history as the masterpiece that changed the world.

‘I can now see that my whole life has been leading to this book’ – David Icke

PAPER VERSION NOW SHIPPING IMMEDIATELY

Nearly 1,000 pages, 900 images and illustrations and 32 pages of original colour artwork by Neil Hague.

read more....

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

Cidersomerset

13th May 2014, 14:56

David has finished his book and it seems he is doing some interviews, this one
starts aprox 31 mins in and he starts off by telling the story how he woke up
while in a bookstore in the Isle of white, when a presence told him to look at some
books in the corner of the shop, where a book by Betty Shine stands out and he
explains how his journey began.......I'm listening to it now.

David Icke on Fade to Black

Tuesday 13th May 2014 at 07:10 By David Icke

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David’s interview starts at the 31 minute mark

Please circulate far and wide.

The link to send to is …

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/david-icke-on-fade-to-black/

Cidersomerset

13th May 2014, 17:22

I'm half way thru this is a very good interview, similar to the previous one but more in depth
as it is 21/2 hours long....worth listening to at a leisurely moment.......

RunningDeer

13th May 2014, 20:43

David Icke: “We are going into a period that’s unfolding..."

"...There’s a vibrational change unfolding that was going to act like a spiritual alarm clock. And was going to wake people up from their slumber…”

I wrote earlier today, “Slumber no more.” If the sheer numbers across the globe dialed up their frequency just a tad, it’d be a game changer.

IMO higher energies/frequencies are blending with the layers of our atmosphere, earth herself, and all life here. The sensitives and others that actively cue into these are conduits for the activation of those now on the cusp of transition.

It’s happening even to the unaware: lower senses partner up with our higher senses, increased EQ and IQ, and DNA regeneration. Imagine if folks dialed up their frequency with deliberate purpose and effect?

This holographic bubble’s got patches on the patches. As the ptw's batteries wind down, we’ve got spikes in our voltage. Soon, there’ll be no surge protector big enough to prevent the ptw from “The Big Fry”.

<3

andrewgreen

14th May 2014, 02:34

Cidersomerset

15th May 2014, 11:41

David Icke on the National Indigenous Radio Service in Australia

Thursday 15th May 2014 at 07:10 By David Icke

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aprox 15 minute segment about education and state control ....part of a longer interview I think.

Listen here …

https://soundcloud.com/flashblack/david-icke-with-jeremy-david-joseph?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter

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ExomatrixTV

23rd June 2014, 08:54

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awesome: http://scgnews.com/the-fall-of-iraq-what-youre-not-being-told

Cardillac

23rd June 2014, 20:38

I find this very tragic and disturbing:

"The People’s Voice

Monday 23rd June 2014 at 11:09 By DAVID ICKE
TPV was created to give a platform to suppressed information that the mainstream media ignores or ridicules and in that sense it has been successful with more than 5,000 hours of such information broadcast from around the world 24 hours a day since November 2013.

Its major problems have come from not being able to attract advertising and sponsorship to pay ongoing running costs and because, in among the many thoroughly decent and committed people who have been involved, it has attracted some of the most poisonous, manipulating, me, me, me self-obsessives you could ever meet.

Certainly, I have rarely experienced so many such characters passing through one location. This has meant ongoing abuse from those who didn’t get what they thought TPV would give them and this has generated a lot of negativity and put off potential advertisers and sponsors.

It was not about how these people served the greater good, but how the greater good could serve them and when it didn’t they set out to trash it.

To set up forums to seek to destroy something created to alert people to the nightmare that is unfolding for everyone – the ISIS situation in the Middle East is the start of a whole new deeply disturbing stage – has to be, in my view, an extreme form of mental illness.

I agreed when the idea for TPV was mooted to give it my full-time commitment as an unpaid volunteer until February 2014. This I did at great cost to myself financially and in terms of my health and I returned home to continue my other work on March 1st as I always said that I would.

TPV has struggled on since then financially with stalwarts like Richie Allen, who is totally committed to its ethos, and I have supported when necessary from afar. But I have now been told by the TPV director, Sean Adl, and his marriage partner, that my input is no longer required and that I should not ‘interfere’ in what Sean Adl calls ‘his business’.

In fact, it is and has always been The People’s business and everyone else involved have been purely custodians. This ethos has now been lost, not least because of people brought in who are clueless both about the ethos and the information that TPV was created to communicate.

I am also perturbed that a part-time bookkeeper that I brought in at the start because of her honestly and integrity has been fired in the last few days with a two-line email after the best part of a year of diligent work.

I will still be happy to appear on any show presented by Richie Allen, or outside contributors, because the information is what matters, lest anyone forget, but I wanted to make it clear that I am no longer attached in any way to TPV which is very sad, but there we are.

The saddest thing that the TPV experience has shown me is that the number of people who are totally committed to making a difference and putting personal and petty desires and prejudices aside to that end are still tragically few.

Me, me, me is the disease that got humanity into this mess and it is certainly not going to get us out of it"

Larry

sigma6

23rd June 2014, 20:52

What a shame... but then again, not surprising... It should be set up as a non profit corporation, and all expenses could be re-couped if done properly... At least that is what I am now working on... with my "corporation"

This has just made me think of something... Not understanding fundamental principles of trust interpretation ... does in fact create a kind of "Babylon Syndrome" almost inevitably...

And as I have stated ... Publicly accredited courses in private trust law were removed from the public school system in the late 60s... It's like a lost Jedi philosophy... just a crazy thought this post has made me think...

Selene

23rd June 2014, 22:12

Lifebringer

23rd June 2014, 23:13

How very sad for David. It must be an immense personal disappointment.

But it’s clear from his comments that there were – not surprisingly – a number of different perspectives driving the venture. This is normal. And as long as everyone makes money, everyone is happy, no one disagrees and conflicting agendas are irrelevant. We’re all successful zillionaires, the universe loves us, who cares? But when/if the rubber meets the road.... everybody becomes potential roadkill.

And TV media stardom – aaaaach. David has very little personal ego; he has great difficulty fathoming the ego needs of Hollywood star wannabes attracted to the bright lights of an on-camera role. Any station, anywhere.

Ah, well. I hope the venture survives in some form. We need it and others in the long run. At minimum its survival would prompt others to start other cable/online TV stations. Some might work, and that fact would drive the start-up costs down for others by increasing venture capital interest in start-ups of this kind.

We’ll see.

Cheers,

Selene

If only the partners would have "left ego out of it" and saw the greater good. But alas, some who contributed to TPV were not able to overcome their ego, or greed or financial opportunistic demon. I think most investors would at least give some program, show, or interest at least 2-4 years before showing profit. The Shark tank is a prime example. They want to own parts of everyone and everything and really not lose much in controlling interest.

The greater good demands that we make whatever necessary changes with or without our Government, church, or political party say. What we have in common is humanity as OUR family here on the blue ball of forever, Earth/Giya. God's blessed incubator for our souls, until birth/evolving/waking up.
Earth= School of Life on all levels, colors and persuasions. Who will be graduating?
I know I strive to do so, every day. It's sometimes disheartening to see and hear all the chaotic activity on tv, but I use it as a prayer mission for those who are lost, murdered, in car accidents and sick. Like a second skin.

Steven Greer's ego got in the way at times, but now he'll be more focused to the mission at hand, as he gets closer to the Creator and stands by his wife as she recovers.:drama:

Azt

24th June 2014, 00:54

It should be set up as a non profit corporation

Can only do that in England if your non profit corporation do NOT criticize politicians or the Royalty so David could NOT do it that way otherwise would make non-sense to set up the channel in the first place if it was obligated to support the status quo.

But

I have now been told by the TPV director, Sean Adl, and his marriage partner, that my input is no longer required and that I should not ‘interfere’ in what Sean Adl calls ‘his business’.

David has very little personal ego Not sure about that.

When someone points out names in an open/public letter and add a "his business" I feel that there is a lot of Me, me , me (EGO) in his statement / letter too.

As an initial supporter of this project , I have the right to say that David failed to build up this project after the money (mine included) that he collected (which is a fact) as
he was in charge of hiring and building his team from ground up.

andrewgreen

24th June 2014, 01:48

David has discredited the credibility of the TPV by saying how its currently not being run inline with its original ethos. Who knows if that's in the best interest of the people or not, it depends what the motives of Sean Adl are.

seehas

24th June 2014, 02:03

This is realy sad to hear i was a supporter of this project but maybe the problem is also that television is a part of the old paradigm, for the young generations its not that important anymore since they can get what they want out of the internet.

Ive allways thought it would be the best to have one medium that can feed all things that arent covered by the mainstream media but otherwise is this whole television concept a old paradigm.

Like many people i know they are interested if you serve then the information on a silver tablet and ask "where u got this from?" Humans are conditioned to get information served but most never learned how to research information on their own "how do i know what is trustworthy" had this coin of conversation and its realy sad to see how adult humans are so deeply conditioned.

RunningDeer

24th June 2014, 02:18

Off topic, but this just came out. David Icke is a guest on the Alex Jones show.
Feel free to delete, Cardillac, if inappropriate to post here.

David Icke: Resistance Is Victory
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David Icke Exposes Open Borders
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Sean

24th June 2014, 02:48

That's awful. I contributed financially to TPV,but, without David Icke, as far as I'm concerned there IS no TPV.

RunningDeer

24th June 2014, 02:51

I missed this first one, and there's a 4th video.

Powerful David Icke Interview
David Icke comes in @ 7:06 (http://youtu.be/riB2ziIaPD0?t=7m6s)
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David Icke: Beyond The Mad House
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ExomatrixTV

24th June 2014, 05:40

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nancyb

24th June 2014, 05:52

cursichella1

24th June 2014, 06:22

Cardillac, without any intent to discredit your post, could you please provide the source of it? I've searched everywhere and cannot find what appears to be a personal message from David Icke on this issue. I was searching it to possibly find more info, but to no avail. Thank you, Nancy B.

Here it is:
http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/the-peoples-voice/

p.s. Am I the only one here thinking this sounds more like TPV is a victim of intentional sabotage versus just folks with ego problems? It's not as if it'd be the first time this has happened to a threatening startup - the difference being instead of anonymous trolls, it has live-ins. It's a shame, but hardly surprising. Great news that David has cut ties and is moving on.

Mike Gorman

24th June 2014, 08:09

I know the original intention was to present an alternative public media outlet for all of the 'alternative perspectives' - in fact by trying to emulate a fully operational T.V
station they were inviting financial disaster - it takes horrendous quantities of money to sustain T.V production, not to mention the skill sets needed -showbiz attracts Egos
as does any opportunity for performance in public. I think they should forget about T.V and embrace the online world - this is the present, the future everyone is online.
It would be far more relevant to current cultural activity AND so much cheaper to produce! A Daily online show syndicated throughout the world -hosted on YouTube, or indeed a dedicated server
on its own platform -online video is incredibly within reach technically. T.V is a diminishing medium. This would be far more effective, less liable to censorship (VPN tunneling, encryption) That is my take.

mosquito

24th June 2014, 09:45

I think you're right GalaxyHorse. And this was more or less what I thought when it started up, but I'm extremely good at seeing the downside in things, it's an unpleasant gift !

I hope David can move on from this and, as you suggest, contemplate a web-based "news" service. I'm sure Alex Jones could help him out with that one. Whatever the outcome, the fact remains that David's intentions were 100% honourable; he gave it his best, he made it come to life. Hats off to him for that.

RunningDeer

24th June 2014, 12:31

For those interested in subscribing, here's David Icke's YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF9mPquu4OMPRfUgkLExPvA).

nancyb

24th June 2014, 13:27

Thank you Cardillac, I don't know how I missed this obvious post ! I need to improve my research skills, lol!!!

Thanks again,
Nancy B.

Oops, sorry. I just realized I need to thank Cursichella!

AriG

24th June 2014, 14:50

RunningDeer

24th June 2014, 15:40

Running Deer,

Could you possibly consider starting a thread on this Alex/David interview, specifically this immigration issue/borders issue. Although I admire David greatly, I am not sure that I agree with him as to the motivation. Don't want to clog this thread with off topic posts! Thanks!

Could you possibly consider starting a thread on this Alex/David interview, specifically this immigration issue/borders issue.

No worries about clogging this thread, AriG. Those were the only ones to up load. Feel free to delete these videos and begin a thread. I would not be offended. (This applies to anyone, too.) To delete my posts just click on the black triangle to the bottom left by the thanks button.

If you need assistance on thread starters, this’ll help “How to post or start a new thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14795-How-to-post-or-start-a-new-thread)”. Alex Jones is a good place to begin. He has footage on immigration issue/borders issue. This is one of several "Alex Jones YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg)".

:focus:

AriG

24th June 2014, 16:17

Oh No! I didn't mean that you, Running Deer, were clogging the thread at all. I just have a bad habit of starting new dialogue where it doesn't belong. I greatly appreciate the videos and want to explore the immigration issue further.... I am so sorry if it appeared that was inferring that you were clogging. Not at all, imo.

AriG

24th June 2014, 16:32

So I'll just say what I have to say here and get this party started again....

My take is pretty simple. The United States' population is aging and it has flatlined, even in certain cultures that proliferated with abandon in the past. The false economy requires "growth" not sustainability. In order to support the old slaves in a state of perceived comfort while still allowing the masters to continue to rule, new slaves must be imported. Although we know that the system is a rouse, it is that proverbial house of cards that must be maintained (or the wizard/curtain scenario) to ward off anarchy. Just think about how the financial collapse in 2008 awakened so many. More than 911. If the US were to slip into negative population growth and couldn't meet its obligations to the retiring boomers, all hell would break loose. Yes, they could print more funny money, but that would drive created poverty. They are at an impasse and the only way out is to (1) either admit the system is game and eliminate the monetary system or (2) import more slaves. They don't like to admit failure and they certainly will not give up their tools of incentivization (fiat currency) over the little people. You could say they think of Mexico/South America as a human capital reserve. Only tap into it when its useful.

Joe Akulis

24th June 2014, 16:35

AriG

24th June 2014, 16:46

Switch to GaiamTV. Lots of great stuff going up there each week. I think George Noory was interviewing Raymond Moody this week about near-death experiences. Regina Meredith has been cranking out terrific interviews left and right.

I so want David Icke to succeed in his mission! I wish that he had taken a page out of Bill and Kerry's repertoire and started the project with positively intentioned people versus "entertainment types" with runaway egos. Yes, they very were likely plants to thwart his mission... just wish he could have seen that. If I were writing the script, I would put Bill and Kerry together with David and start over. Wouldn't it be cool if the three of them could do a "Holographic Universe" channel. Get right down to root cause. It would be amazing.

indigopete

24th June 2014, 21:03

Cidersomerset

24th June 2014, 21:18

David Icke on the Alex Jones Show Last Night – Great Information on ISIS, Transhumanism and other interconnected subjects

Tuesday 24th June 2014 at 09:20 By David Icke

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David’s interview begins 7:05 into the video

Please circulate far and wide.

The link to send to is …

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/david-icke-on-the-alex-jones-show/

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Tuesday 24th June 2014 at 09:06 By David Icke

The scaremongering has begun. Isis is no threat to Britain

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‘The security service trade union is now in full cry. It wants more money, more
power, less oversight and will go to any lengths of scaremongering to get it.

Yesterday its cheerleader, the former defence secretary, Liam Fox, was
unequivocal. There were people going about saying the state had too much power
in Britain, he said, while “pretty much the rest of us say the state must protect
itself”. We had “better start to reconsider” whether liberty was more important than
security. This is dangerous talk.’

In the past week David Cameron, MI6 and the London police have all issued
warnings of the "danger to Britain" from this month's Isis invasion of northern Iraq,
and from a possible 400-500 "returning jihadists". This is the backdrop to a
campaign for renewed military intervention in Iraq and, at home, for extending
GCHQ's freedom to conduct what it now admits is the warrant-less surveillance of
all electronic communications by British citizens.

The idea that the Isis action in Iraq poses a threat to the British state is ludicrous.
That it came as a complete surprise to London (and apparently Baghdad) shows
how trivial MI6 thought the threat before it happened. Otherwise, why did Cameron
not do something about it a month ago? Surely heads should roll. In truth there is
no threat, just a useful excuse for sabre-rattling and fear politics. If Isis can
undermine Britain's safety, Britain must be a feeble place indeed.

As for the returning jihadists, they too are no threat to Britain. They may threaten
to explode some bombs, a threat to life and limb. Why Cameron should want to
elevate, indeed almost romanticise, that menace is a mystery. The only security
against this violence is from policing and from targeted intelligence.

This certainly may involve intrusions that the Muslim community must accept as
long as it harbours those willing to lead susceptible young people to violence.

The danger from these disparate individuals would appear to be far less serious
than, for instance, that of the IRA during the Troubles. It is of criminal nuisance,
not the undermining of the integrity of the state. That may not suit the dignity and
budgetary ambition of the security apparatus. But it is not the nation's problem,
and certainly not a reason for dismantling the ever shaky basis of personal freedom
from state power. What is truly alarming is that Fox, Cameron, the police and the
secret service should be so careless of that freedom.

Read more: The scaremongering has begun. Isis is no threat to Britain

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/23/scaremongering-isis-no-threat-to-britain-liam-fox-mi6-iraq

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Blair must go! Ex-diplomats lead calls for PM who went to war on a lie to be axed
as Middle East peace envoy

Tuesday 24th June 2014 at 09:01 By David Icke

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‘Three former UK ambassadors to the Middle East will tomorrow join calls for Tony
Blair to be removed from his role as Middle East peace envoy.

Signatories to an open letter, led by Mr Blair’s former ambassador to Iran Sir
Richard Dalton, describe his achievements in the region as ‘negligible’, criticise his
money-making activities and accuse him of trying to ‘absolve himself’ of
responsibility for the crisis in Iraq.’

Read more: Blair must go! Ex-diplomats lead calls for PM who went to war on a lie
to be axed as Middle East peace envoy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2666213/Blair-growing-pressure-stand-Middle-East-peace-envoy-diplomats-demand-removal.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Blair should be lecturing on Iraq from the dock at the International Criminal Court

Tuesday 24th June 2014 at 04:51 By David Icke

‘While thousands of ISIS Sunni extremists are engaged in a determined attempt to
reach Baghdad, leaving a trail of carnage in the process, Tony Blair remains
resolute in claiming that there is no connection between this and the hell in which
Iraq has been plunged, even more than a decade since the 2003 onset of the war
which he and former US President George W Bush unleashed.

As someone averred among the avalanche of Tweets sent excoriating the former
prime minister over his recent denials, this is about as serious as claiming there is
no connection between him having sex with his wife and the existence of his
children.’

Blair cuts an increasingly isolated figure, which for a man obsessed with
establishing a legacy in the Churchillian mode, not even the tens of millions of
pounds he’s amassed since leaving Downing Street in 2007 can ever hope to
compensate. Former friends and political allies have deserted him now; and in
response to his latest public appearance, more than a few have taken the
opportunity to stick the boot in. Perhaps the sentiments of London Mayor Boris
Johnson came closest to describing the extent to which Blair is now considered a
political pariah in Britain, when he described him as “mad.”

When it comes to the region, it is time for the West – in particular, the US and the
UK – to abandon their nonsensical policy of supporting the opposition in Syria and
instead acknowledge that the government of Bashar al-Assad is playing a key role
in stemming the flood of Sunni extremism and has been over the last three years.
In fact, without the resilience of the Syrian Arab Army the region would have been
plunged into even more chaos and destruction than it is at present. For three years,
the Syrian government, the Syrian people, army and allies have stood against this
de facto Islamic Khmer Rouge in Syria otherwise known as ISIS (ISIL), an
organization and ideology so beyond the pale that its defeat and destruction is
absolutely vital.

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ISIS SalfIstS

Yet, as recently as the beginning of May, the British government announced its
decision to resume the provision of “non-lethal” aid to the Free Syrian Army (FSA)
in the form of laptops, communications equipment, vehicles and medical supplies.
Surely this has to count as an act of insanity on the part of Britain’s Foreign
Secretary, William Hague, who pushed for this resumption of aid to the “moderate”
Syrian opposition?

Firstly, the FSA – as a significant factor in the Syrian conflict – no longer exists.
Secondly, how does atrocities committed by the FSA in Syria (most infamously the
filming of the cutting open of a dead Syrian soldier and removal of his internal
organs by an FSA commander in 2013, which was then posted online) qualify them
as moderate in any meaningful sense? Thirdly, how would it profit the Syrian
people and, with the spreading of the crisis to Iraq, the region as a whole if the
current Syrian government is toppled?

It doesn’t take a genius of strategic thinking to work out that if there ever was a
moderate opposition in Syria there no longer is, and that the only effective forces in
the region currently able to take on these medieval extremists are the Syrian Arab
Army, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard and Hezbollah. Without them the entire Arab
world would be dragged into hell without a way out, which is why the West must as
a matter of urgency reorient its policy accordingly.

Another factor in this growing crisis, exposing the West’s abiding hypocrisy and
venality, is the role of the Saudis as a major source of funding and support for
Sunni extremism. It remains more than a coincidence that 15 of the 19 hijackers
involved in the atrocity of 9/11 were Saudi citizens, and since then this vile clan has
used Saudi Arabia’s vast oil wealth to spread instability in Syria, Egypt, and now
Iraq in service to an anti-Iranian agenda and a perverse rendering of Islam known
as Wahhabism.

Saudi Arabia consistently ranks low on every international index on human rights.
Indeed, so egregious is the problem that 52 members of Congress, Democrat and
Republican, along with NGOs such as Amnesty International and Human Rights
Watch, sent a letter to President Obama prior to his visit to Saudi Arabia in late
March/early April this year, urging him to press King Abdullah on the issue.

To be frank, Saudi Arabia is a hellhole of intolerance, state-sponsored religious
extremism, injustice, the oppression of minorities and women, and corruption. Yet
despite this, the West continues to foster close economic and political ties with the
country. The most embarrassing evidence of the nature of this relationship came in
February when Prince Charles visited the Kingdom during a tour of the Gulf in
February and behaved like an idiot, performing a sword dance while dressed in
traditional robes and headdress for the delectation of his hosts.

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The day after his visit to Riyadh, Britain’s biggest arms firm, BAE, announced a deal
to supply the Saudis with 72 Typhoon fighter jets, worth some £4.5 billion ($8
billion). Despite denials issued by the Prince’s office that there was any connection
between his visit and the subsequent arms deal, the fact that this was the 10th
state visit to the Kingdom by the heir to the throne leaves no doubt as to the close
ties that exist between the UK and a clan of Arab potentates who rule their state
like a mafia crime family.

Other Gulf states such as Qatar also have blood on their hands when it comes to
funding the sectarian bloodletting that has swept Syria and now Iraq, while at the
same time enjoying a close economic and political relationship with the West. It
reminds us that to the political classes in the US and throughout Western Europe
the lives of innocent men, women, and children in Syria and Iraq take second place
to economic self-interest.

This is why being lectured to about democracy and human rights by a US president
or British prime minister is like being told to sit up straight by the Hunchback of
Notre Dame.

Finally, returning to Tony Blair, it is not so much that we mind him defending his
role in Iraq. It is that he should by now be doing it from the dock at the
International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Source: RT

John Wight is a writer and commentator specializing in geopolitics, UK domestic
politics, culture and sport. You can follow him on Twitter @JohnWight1

Read more: Blair should be lecturing on Iraq from the dock at the International
Criminal Court

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‘There WILL Be Plots To Kill Americans!’ Senator ‘I’ve Seen The Plans’ Feinstein

Tuesday 24th June 2014 at 04:24 By David Icke

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linksplatinum

24th June 2014, 22:20

I checked this out earlier this morning...
The oligarchs are trying reeeeaaaalllllyyyy hard to try and start some more **** in the Middle East, thanks to the US, UK, and Saudi's, and the rest of the 1 percents :der:, not only that but, the agenda and propaganda props are off the Richter-scale like you wouldn't believe...

:target:‘There WILL Be Plots To Kill Americans!’ Senator ‘I’ve Seen The Plans’ Feinstein:target:...

:wizard:Yeah FrankenFeinstein and it just may be all of you bastards this time you wacko:wacko:

jake gittes

25th June 2014, 00:19

I've seen the plans? The False Flag plans? Yeah, I imagine you have. She needs to go.

Selene

25th June 2014, 00:21

"I've seen the plans [to kill Americans/British]!" - US Senator and dual Israeli citizen/Mossad agent, Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee Feinstein.

Yeah. I'll bet. And approved them too, no doubt.

To-o-o-o-o obvious to have this war-script being played out: the ISIS-whatchamacallit group suddenly emerges as the Great Satan of terrorism - within days! Who knew? They miraculously replace the failed/faux Al-Qaeda/Al-CIA-duh. And they are well armed and well trained. (Stupid question: the US had no very expensive NSA intelligence/surveillance on this group....? Or perhaps they were funding them all along, heh heh...?)

But now we all need to scramble - send "advisors" whooo hoooo! ...hello, Vietnam quagmire? Iraq/Saigon/Kabul government has "begged us" for help...with the promise of zillions of mooola if they cooperate.... No. Nah. Can't happen here....

I've seen this movie before.

Selene

AriG

25th June 2014, 01:39

I know the original intention was to present an alternative public media outlet for all of the 'alternative perspectives'....I think they should forget about T.V and embrace the online world.....T.V is a diminishing medium

+1 to that.

Although I supported TPV in its initial fundraiser, I was surprised that Icke thought it was going to be such a game changer. It seemed strangely "old world thinking" for such a "new world messenger".

The world is de-centralising. In every aspect - media, politics, identity, creativity, even money (with the advent of crypto currencies). To think that such a centralised project would be a major force for change seems a bit naive. All the same, he approached it with an enormous amount of zeal, energy and vision and I'm sorry for him that it hasn't lived up to his hopes.

Icke does tend to take the odd 90 degree detour off track now and again that totally f*ks him up for a while before he finds his feet again. Witness his disastrous relationship with Mrs Icke a few years back. He went head over heels into that one and then got promptly spat out the other end holding a pile of lawyer's bills.

I don't see this development as a bad thing. I just see to as further confirmation of the need to keep any centralised and agenda pushing information sources at bargepole length.

I don't mean to sound cruel, but I am interpreting your synopsis with a sort of an.... "Entertainment Tonight" vibe. You suggest that his chosen media outlet is antiquated, and then proceed to trivialize his marriage and subsequent separation. Almost as though he is not human, but a subject of public humiliation for having made what you see as bad choices. That makes me very sad. A failed marriage is more than a pile of attorney's fees at the end. It is a loss. A death. And as such, the parties involved should be given utmost consideration, not condemnation.

David Icke has done more for humanity than any of us could. He has consistently reported the truth and has done so amidst a debilitating condition that would render most of us bed ridden. David is human. A real human and one who is capable of greatness and of erring. I admire his mistakes. They make him stronger and more believable. Regarding his TV choice - consider for a moment that the choice was to reach out to the percentage of society still asleep (aka, TV watchers) Now that's brilliant! Thats why they sabotaged the effort. It was too smart.

I apologize for my confrontational response. I have a special affinity for David Icke. I trust him and I believe in him ( as I do Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy)...my "lioness" pops out when these people are maligned.

EYES WIDE OPEN

25th June 2014, 09:25

Can I just say that I worked in TV for 10 years and the number one reason I left was because it was full of bigoted up-themselves backstabbing coke-addled idiots. Unfortunately, this type of person is common in the media especially TV media.

indigopete

25th June 2014, 11:31

I apologize for my confrontational response. I have a special affinity for David Icke. I trust him and I believe in him ( as I do Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy)...my "lioness" pops out when these people are maligned.

Don't apologise.

Your response was considered and appropriate.

Points accepted.

Tommy

25th June 2014, 14:08

Because some people appears to think TPV is broadcast as a TV station, I think it is worth pointing out that even though they got an OFCOM license they never aired on anything other than the internet. This in itself I am sure turned into a rather big problem in terms of publicity as well as their intended reach (per their fundraising statements), that being reaching out to the general populous. Now this was not at all a killer mistake, but add some internal power struggles (some discussed on this forum before) and a lack of direction added a lot of pressure which I am sure in turn did not make things easier for the "heads" involved. Also add to the fact that they have not done any actual live broadcasts for some time, and when they did they went unannounced and from reading on their FB page I see the audience getting confused and frustrated about he intention of the channel.

I mean, you don't need several hundred thousands of GBP if you are just recording shows on YouTube, that goes without saying..

I followed this venture with interest, then after a while caution. Now I am sad to believe that this venture was just "another thing" that came and wen't.

That being said, kudos on them for trying. Shame on those who exploited this opportunity (and money!) for personal gain.

Icke I am sure will land on his feet as always :)

Cidersomerset

25th June 2014, 21:12

'Sack Blair from Middle East peace envoy and try him at the Hague'

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Published on 25 Jun 2014

Former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair is feeling the heat again;
Not on dragging the UK into a costly war in Iraq on a false
pretext -- but his current position as Middle East Peace
Envoy's senior figure. A group of former diplomats have
written to demand Blair be fired. Retired British ambassador,
Oliver Miles joins RT for more.

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'West to meddle in Iraq-ISIS conflict sooner or later'

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Published on 25 Jun 2014

Iraqi army air strikes reportedly killed at least 32 people in the
strategically important town of Baiji. That's where government
forces are trying to fend off militant attacks on the country's
largest oil refinery.The Islamist group ISIS had earlier claimed
it had captured the facility. British MP Jeremy Corbyn thinks
it's Western meddling that's driven Iraq to the edge.

ExomatrixTV

27th June 2014, 11:54

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mpod001

7th July 2014, 23:08

Hey guys,

Just booked my tickets and wondered if anyone else is going to come?

Kelly Anne

9th July 2014, 02:39

I had to look this up to see what it is.

Hope you have a great time! :) Sounds exciting!

I am not new to who David Icke is, but am overwhelmed with starting to really read up on his writings...what he is about.

I do not see that he is coming to the US at anytime... :/

bennycog

9th July 2014, 05:51

I would so love to go to this but I imagine ill be working away somewhere :) here are some details if others are interested. Ill be jealous

http://www.davidicke.com/wembley/

LONDON, UK

DATE
Saturday 25 October 2014, 10am - 8pm

VENUE
Wembley Arena
Arena Square Engineers Way
London, United Kingdom HA9 0DH

TICKETS
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ATTIRE
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ktlight

10th July 2014, 13:27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9ABUEu4XlU#t=123

"EDWARD HEATH CHILD KILLER AND PAEDOPHILE + JIMMY SAVILE + JERSEY

Published on Mar 13, 2013
michael shrimpton,barrister and author of the book Spyhunter names Ted Heath,UK prime minister in the 1970s as a paedophile and child muderer(or at least an accessory).According to Shrimpton,Jimmy Savile procured children from Haute de Gaurenne childrens home in jersey and took them to Heaths boat,Morning Cloud,where they were abused and murdered and thrown overboard.This is why no bodies were found at Haute de gaurenne.Michael shrimpton was speaking on Bristol Community radio in january 2013"

http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/8679-terry-wogan-looks-like-david-icke-right-along.html

truth4me

10th July 2014, 14:17

The truth is setting us all free.Nasty a** perverts and I hope justice is served on the other side of the veil.....:flame:

EYES WIDE OPEN

10th July 2014, 14:40

The daily squib is a satire website.

Cidersomerset

10th July 2014, 15:36

Yes David is right about a lot of things due to the amount of research
he has done. This is from a recent thread but much more is on the
the big Jmmy Saville thread........

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----

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I realise the Jimmy Saville thread is very large and daunting to
look at and understand if you have not followed it, and Hey!
There are many wonderfull threads on Avalon to get engrossed in.

This is a recent exchange reflecting the vamping up of recent events.
There is much more on the thread and much more going on around
the world undocumented........

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Quote Posted by Billy (here)
Child abuse files lost at Home Office spark fears of cover-up
Calls for 'overarching, Hillsborough-style' inquiry as it emerges that a total of 114
documents are missing from official records.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...es-home-office

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From Pride Purge's blog

Official efforts to cover up a VIP paedophile ring at the heart of the UK political
establishment shamelessly goes on unabated. - Google searches for ‘Leon Brittan’
and ‘PIE’ censored after Cease and Desist notice.

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/0...desist-notice/

If you Google (on google.co.uk) the terms ‘Leon Brittan’ and ‘PIE’ (Paedophile
Information Exchange) you’ll find this message from Google (at the bottom of the
first page of results)

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According to ChillingEffects.org the censoring is because an official Cease and
Desist order was sent to Google who had a legal obligation to remove some of the
results.

This comes after former Tory Home Secretary Leon Brittan admitted today that he
lied last year to a Channel 4 journalist about a detailed dossier on a VIP paedophile
ring he was handed in the 1980s which was then promptly lost.

Cock-up, cover up or conspiracy? You decide:

For more related links, Read more here. http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/0...desist-notice/
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Meet the man Leon Brittan handed the lost VIP paedophile dossier to.

http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/0...le-dossier-to/

In 1983, when he was Home Secretary, Leon Brittan was handed a dossier by Tory
MP Geoffrey Dickens which included details of a VIP paedophile ring.

The file of course – we now know – then mysteriously went missing after Brittan
said he “handed it to his officials” at the Home Office.

So who would those officials be?

Well, Brittan has already confirmed that the official who was with him at the
meeting when he was handed the dossier was his private secretary.

And who was Brittan’s private secretary at the time of the meeting?

Sir Brian Cubbon.

Sir Brian – although a former high ranking civil servant – has close links to MI5 and MI6.

In this document from 1999, Sir Brian is listed as a director of an MI6 front
company called Hakluyt & Company.

And Sir Brian is also the official who was responsible for giving MI5 permission to
tap the phones of leading CND activists in the 1980s.

And what is the relevance of the spooks involvement in the missing dossier?

Well, this is not the first time a VIP paedophile dossier has gone missing.

In the 1970s a special branch officer with Lancashire Police said a “thick” police
dossier full of allegations from boys claiming they had been abused by Sir Cyril
Smith went missing after an officer from MI5 told him it needed to be sent to MI5
headquarters in London.

It’s looking increasingly likely that VIP paedophiles – particularly those in
Westminster – are being protected by MI5.

For more related links, Read more here. http://tompride.wordpress.com/2014/0...le-dossier-to/
Leon Brittan Update. Bill Maloney & Chris Fay.

Warning it contains horrific details

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Lou Collins Radio Show 7.7.14 Bill Maloney, Brian Gerrish talk Westminster Paedophiles

http://www.mixcloud.com/shylou73/lou...r-paedophiles/

peace.

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Leon Brittan Update. Bill Maloney & Chris Fay.

Warning it contains horrific details

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeAc6UwfOuM

Thanks Billy 'Snuff movies' have been talked about for
decades , the description of the 'London tape' by Chris
Flay is horrific, but probably only the tip of the iceburg.

Leon Britton in his own underage sex tape !!

These lastest allegations and I'm sure there
are more now and historical, adds
credence to allegations former PM Edward Heath
was a child sex abuser and murder. These attacks
took place aboard his various yachts Morning cloud,
using boys procured by Saville from children homes
in Jersey article by Michael Shrimpton and others...

EDWARD HEATH CHILD KILLER AND PAEDOPHILE + JIMMY SAVILE + JERSEY
v9ABUEu4XlU

Published on 13 Mar 2013

michael shrimpton,barrister and author of the book Spyhunter names
Ted Heath,UK prime minister in the 1970s as a paedophile and child
muderer(or at least an accessory).According to Shrimpton,Jimmy Savile
procured children from Haute de Gaurenne childrens home in jersey and
took them to Heaths boat,Morning Cloud,where they were abused and
murdered and thrown overboard.This is why no bodies were found at
Haute de gaurenne.Michael shrimpton was speaking on
Bristol Community radio in january 2013

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Full interview which has been posted many times.....

Michael Shrimpton Exposes Ted Heath (and others)

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Michael Shrimpton Exposes Ted Heath (and others)
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Subscribe 82,089

Published on 17 Jan 2013

What David Icke has said since 1998 about paedophile and child killing Prime
Minister Ted Heath is backed-up here by barrister Michael Shrimpton, an
Intelligence and national security consultant, from his own contacts and inside
experience

Michael Shrimpton says that Prime Minister Heath (1916--2005) was a paedophile
who murdered his young boy victims or had others do it, often by throwing them
into the sea after Heath had abused them on his yacht.

The record-breaking paedophile and BBC 'star' Jimmy Savile supplied boys for
Heath - many of them from the Jersey children's home, Haut de la Garenne, with
the support of those who ran the home.

These facts were covered up by Heath Cabinet Secretary John Hunt, Baron Hunt of
Tanworth, who Shrimpton says was also a paedophile. Hunt was appointed by the
Queen to be a Companion, Knight Commander and Knight Grand Cross of the
British Order of chivalry known as the The Most Honourable Order of the Bath of
which the Queen is the head and Prince Charles the Grand Master. Hunt was also
given a Papal Knighthood by Pope John Paul II - so was Jimmy Savile who was also
knighted by the Queen.

Jimmy Savile was a close friend of Lord Mountbatten, Prince Philip and Prince
Charles from the 1960s and this continued for decades AFTER the cover up of
Heath's paedophilia and child murder in league with Savile. You mean they didn't
KNOW? Is someone having a laugh? British Intelligence didn't know? Ditto.

What's more ... AFTER the Heath-Savile cover up, Savile became such a close
friend of Heath's successor and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her husband
Denis that he was invited to be with them on New Year's Eve every year for more
than a decade.

Thatcher's government and circle of associates and aides was alive with
paedophiles including Chester MP Peter Morrison, a close aide to Thatcher from
1975 to 1990. He was a notorious paedophile, well known to colleagues and the
media, and yet Thatcher and her Cabinet and inner circle did NOTHING while he
was abusing boys in North Wales children's homes and elsewhere. Anyone in that
circle MUST have known. Thatcher minister Edwina Currie wrote in her published diaries:

'One appointment in the recent reshuffle has attracted a lot of gossip and could be
very dangerous: Peter Morrison has become the PM's PPS [Parliamentary Private
Secretary]. Now he's what they call a 'noted pederast', with a liking for young boys;
he admitted as much to [Conservative Party chairman] Norman Tebbit when he
became deputy chairman of the party but added' 'However, I'm very discreet' - and
he must be! She [Thatcher] either knows and is taking a chance, or doesn't; either
way, it's a really dumb move.

[Conservative MP] Teresa Gorman told me this evening (in a taxi coming back from
a drinks party at the BBC) that she inherited Morrison's (woman) agent, who
claimed to have been offered money to keep quiet about his activities. It scares me
as all the press know, and as we get closer to the election someone is going to
make trouble, very close to her indeed.'

I named Edward Heath as a serial paedophile and child killer in my book, The
Biggest Secret, first published in 1998 -- seven years before he died. I also named
him and his Chancellor of the Exchequer Anthony Barber as practicing Satanists, as
I did the leading members of the royal family. Heath was read what I said by an
excuse for a 'journalist' days after publication and he did nothing because to do so
would have had the truth exposed in court -- as it would be now if anyone from the
Thatcher cesspit wants a go. Michael Shrimpton mentions Barber in this interview
as being in league with Heath and Cabinet Secretary Hunt.

If Operations Fairbank and Fernbridge, the police investigations into political
and 'elite' paedophilia, don't not make arrests of big political and royal names so
they can be questioned under caution then it, too, will be shown to be a cover up
given the evidence that mounts all the time.

Michael Shrimpton goes on to talk about what he says happened to the abducted
little girl Madeleine McCann, the assassination of Princess Diana, the murder of
weapons expert David Kelly who could have trashed the lies used to justify the Blair
invasion of Iraq, and what Shimpton says was the murder of former British Foreign
Secretary Robin Cook.

I can't confirm what he says about Madeleine or Cook but for sure I can with
everything else with regard to Heath, Savile and the Conservative Party and
government. Nor do I agree with all of his assumptions about who was behind it all,
and certainly not that British Intelligence are the 'good guys'. But it is very
interesting information very much worth hearing.

Michael Shrimpton is the author of the book, Spyhunter, which he hopes to publish
this year.

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I posted this earlier in the thread....

Sun Sea & Satan FULL DOCUMENTARY

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Published on 31 Mar 2012

http://www.pienmashfilms.com
A hard-hitting emotionally charged 60 min documentary by Bill Maloney (Award
winning independent film director) who's family were all brought up in the UK care
system.

It covers Maloney's visit and interpretation of Jersey, Channel Islands, following the
ongoing child abuse investigations of the children's care home 'Haut de la Garenne'.
It highlights connections with the Sea Cadets and children being brought from
London care homes for 'sailing holidays' on the Island. The documentary contains
strong language and strong opinions.

Due to his and his family's experiences of Establishment care homes Maloney felt
compelled to see first hand the response of Islanders to the alleged abuse claims
and their general feeling for the Governing States. A mixed response of silence,
anger and insensitivity is catalogued from this island of geographical beauty with an
ugly underbelly. The film includes mainstream news reports with Jeremy Paxman,
Stuart Syvret, Lenny Harper, Esther Rantzen and Frank Walker.

It is the opinion of Bill Maloney that if a child was required - Haut de la Garenne
was the venue; if an adult was required - St Saviours Mental Hospital was the
venue.

JERSEY IS NOT PART OF THE UK, IT IS OWNED BY THE CROWN.

DONATIONS - In order to remain independent Pie and Mash Films rely on donations
from generous individuals to carry out investigations into all forms of abuse and the
erosion of our civil liberties.

With your help we can raise the awareness of the consequences of abuse by
individuals, corporates, and the 'Establishment' and confront those in power who
deny justice. http://www.pienmashfilms.com/page18.htm

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?50809-How-Jimmy-was-able-to-Fix-it----&p=851192&viewfull=1#post851192

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JERSEY CORRUPT CROWN OFFICERS DENIED Child Abuse - JERSEY Chief Judge = Governor of ABUSE Home

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Uploaded on 13 Dec 2011

JERSEY CORRUPT CROWN OFFICERS DENIED Child Abuse - JERSEY Chief Judge =
Governor of ABUSE Home

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72841-IMPORTANT-...How-the-estbishment-Elites-fix-it...........Brownie-points-or-Blackmai---...&p=851473#post851473

I just saw an interview on BB2's Newsnight with Niel Hamilton
former conservative whip and now involved with UKIP....

He was very evasive and sly and you know he was not
telling the truth with his reference to the 'Dirt Books'
the whips kept. When pressed if he knew about paedophiles
in Westminster ? he soon back tracked and 'waffled' his
answers till the end of the interview.....

Party whips cover up MP crimes from public (08July14)

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Published on 9 Jul 2014

UKIP's Neil Hamilton on role of whips to cover up crimes performed by MPs and other government people.

Source:

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House of Cards - Francis Urquhart Putting a Bit of Stick About - the Whip's office in the UK drama ...

Thanks Sabrina a perfect example of how 'The Old Boys Club' works.........

Neil Hamilton mentions Francis Urquhart in the above News night interview
He goes on to talk about their 'Dirt Books' and waffles his answers towards
the end.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72841-IMPORTANT-...How-the-estbishment-Elites-fix-it...........Brownie-points-or-Blackmai---...&p=851748#post851748

ulli

10th July 2014, 15:45

yelik

10th July 2014, 16:14

Yes saw this awhile ago and is just tip of the iceberg. The Royal family, Senior Politicians and other high profile people were all friends of Jimmy Saville a truly evil monster protected by the establishment. Look at the work of Kevin Annette, which has gone on in other parts of the world, and we can see an evil picture developing involving secret societies such as the Freemason and Illuminati where they still follow ancient Babylonian ceremonies and rituals which also involves our reptile friends.

At the same time our politicians, MSM and universities will claim anything mystical or occult is farcical. Unfortunately most people are brought up to go along with this stance, as I was until I did my own research, how dumb I was

AriG

10th July 2014, 17:12

The first time I saw David Icke speak, my inner knowing instantly recognized him as truth. What would we do without him!

Regarding the subject matter, can you imagine what these poor children suffered? I wonder where they are now and if they have healed from that experience. I always worry about spirits/souls as they leave this incarnation and how they cope. Barely out of diapers when they were murdered in cold blood. New beings are so delicate. It is such a shock to the psyche to even arrive here, in this convoluted backwards and upside down place harsh and mean place, let alone face the most horrific of endings....

"Psychologists" suggest that abuse stems from the abused. Meaning that an abused child will grow into an abusive adult with the right conditioning. Wonder if Saville was abused as a child. Wonder if he is back here in the skin of yet another young victim....

What is the answer, is there an answer....I am beginning to think the only answer is the end to this vortex, a massive cleaning and a reboot.

Billy

10th July 2014, 17:33

The daily squib is a satire website.

Yeah, and I don't like how they muddy the waters.
All pro-deception agendas really really annoy me.
Of course their excuse is that they do it to sharpen our ability to discern.
But some stuff is just not funny and everyone ought to pull their weight to get this pedophile thing removed from the face of this earth.

But IF Terry Wogan were to come forward now and actually make such a statement it would redeem itself, in my eyes.

So this may be BS. Pity, as you said Ulli. If Terry were to repeat this statement out in the open. He would redeem himself.

NORFOLK – England – Former TV presenter Terry Wogan has made an impassioned plea of clemency to author and researcher, David Icke.

A repentant Terry Wogan has spoken of his distress at ridiculing researcher and writer David Icke all those years ago.

“I ridiculed someone who was in the process of waking up. You see I was asleep myself just as so many others were. Well, I apologise to Mr Icke unreservedly for being a snivelling arse that night on the Wogan show. David Icke was correct on Jimmy Savile and all the others, especially those in the halls of power,” Mr Wogan told the BBC news service.

ulli

10th July 2014, 17:44

Cidersomerset

10th July 2014, 18:10

I don't know if Terry Wogan has said anything recently,but when David went back
on the Wogan show years later he showed how shallow the mainstream is and
particularly chat show hosts..LOL...As David starts to tell him about 'The project for
the New American Century' Terry is bemused and has to wrap up the
the interview. It gets even funnier and ironic at the end as Terry says thank you to
David. He announces after the break his next guest is Ulrika Johnson infamous for
her relationships and her life in the tabloids at the time.....As David would say....

" You could not make it up "..LOL

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Published on 7 Aug 2013

David Vaughan Icke (/aɪk/; ike, born 29 April 1952) is an English writer, public
speaker and former professional footballer. He promotes conspiracy theories about
global politics and has written extensively about them.

The headlines attracted an invitation to appear on the BBC's prime-time Terry
Wogan show, Wogan, on 29 April 1991. When asked if he was claiming to be the
son of God, he did not disagree, and amid laughter from the studio audience, he
repeated that Britain would soon be devastated by tidal waves and earthquakes.
[27] He also talked about politics and the environment:

When you survey the world today ... when a child dies in this world of preventable
disease every two seconds, when the economic system of this world must destroy
the Earth simply for that system to survive; when you see all the wars, and when
you see all the pain, and when you see all the suffering, is it a force of love and
wisdom and tolerance that is in control of this planet?[28]

The interview proved devastating for him. The BBC was criticized for allowing it to
go ahead, Des Christy in The Guardian calling it a "media crucifixion."[29] Wogan
interviewed Icke again in 2006, acknowledging that his comments during the first
interview had been "a bit sharp."[27] Icke disappeared from public life for a time,
unable to walk down the street without people mocking him. His children were
followed to school by journalists and ridiculed by schoolmates, and his wife would
open the back door to get the washing in only to find a camera crew filming her.
[30] He told Jon Ronson in 2001:

One of my very greatest fears as a child was being ridiculed in public. And there it
was coming true. As a television presenter, I'd been respected. People come up to
you in the street and shake your hand and talk to you in a respectful way. And
suddenly, overnight, this was transformed into "Icke's a nutter." I couldn't walk
down any street in Britain without being laughed at. It was a nightmare. My
children were devastated because their dad was a figure of ridicule.[26]

Gardener

10th July 2014, 18:50

Smoke and mirrors is their M.O. Over and Over when these things are parodied I question their ablity to deal with such obscene and dreadful occurences. I have known people who break into giggles when receiving bad news, its something they can't help, even making jokes about these things, whilst in extreme bad taste, is a way of coping, and allowing them to sweep it under the carpet, pretend its not happening. Denial at its finest. Fear is the base emotion which drives this reaction.

On the other hand cointelpro operations create this exact scenario - example wogan humiliating David, from here on in no one took David seriously, job done. Much satire is designed to de-sensitise us, make us laugh at seemingly horrendous but true situations - the program 'spitting image' is a good example. When the serious news reports what spitting image has been representing as humour, the programming anchors allow us to laugh and move right along.
It makes me mad as hell too Ulli.

The daily squib is a satire website.

Yeah, and I don't like how they muddy the waters.
All pro-deception agendas really really annoy me.
Of course their excuse is that they do it to sharpen our ability to discern.
But some stuff is just not funny and everyone ought to pull their weight to get this pedophile thing removed from the face of this earth.

But IF Terry Wogan were to come forward now and actually make such a statement it would redeem itself, in my eyes.

Gardener

10th July 2014, 18:58

In the end this deep humiliation that was inflicted on David was a huge help, he dealt with it, from there the only way was up. It is what we all need to do, confront the greatest personal fears that our survival ego throws at us. grrrr its the hardest thing we will ever do.

One of my very greatest fears as a child was being ridiculed in public. And there it
was coming true. As a television presenter, I'd been respected. People come up to
you in the street and shake your hand and talk to you in a respectful way. And
suddenly, overnight, this was transformed into "Icke's a nutter." I couldn't walk
down any street in Britain without being laughed at. It was a nightmare. My
children were devastated because their dad was a figure of ridicule.[26]

araucaria

10th July 2014, 19:46

ulli

10th July 2014, 19:55

Azt

11th July 2014, 00:17

Imagine what the U.S will do with all those children immigrants from now on ...

araucaria

11th July 2014, 13:23

Limor Wolf

11th July 2014, 13:56

In a sequence of events which is difficult for me to describe at the moment, I found myself at age 20 coming to the island of Jersey, being driven to go there. I came back a year later with my mother and a strange thing has happend there. I am an abused child.

ulli

11th July 2014, 14:07

While I was only referring to the Daily Squib website you included Terry Wogan as well.
Both need to sing the Redemption Song- I agree.
What he did to David back then was shameful.

Just imagine what could be achieved if just a few people like Wogan were prevailed upon to take this sort of step - through some sort of positive psychic attack: let it be done!

Yes, yes, yes, those were my thoughts as well.
But from my experience with media people a change of heart like that is extremely rare,
as they never had a heart that could have been changed to begin with.
I used to like Christiane Amanpour, and expected her to leave CNN and blow the whistle one day....
No such luck.
But I believe I'm straying off topic here.....
Well if they can't have a heart transplant, they need a heart implant. Or to make way for a lookalike, as in The Great Dictator. Some extremely rare things need to happen more often :)

Until I was living in Barbados I was not aware of how the world was run. I believed the MSM version, like most sheeple.
Now I know that major decisions are made on golf courses, in beautiful mansions after lunch,
or while swimming during the late afternoons in warm blue oceans waters.
In 1986 I was asked to show my jewelry to Pamela Harriman's house guests, and went several times to her Barbados home, Mango Bay. She was then married to Averell Harriman, former governor of New York, whose name I later discovered on a MJ12 list. Apparently he was one of the original members. He was Pamela's third husband. Her first husband was Randolph Churchill, son of Winston, and she was then living in the UK during WW2, while Winston was Prime Minister. Her second husband was Hollywood producer Leland Hayward. So she had been around the block.
In the nineties Clinton made her ambassador to France, and she died in Paris. The Harrimans were friends with then chief of NATO, who was French, and who was a regular in their Barbados home.

And then there was Claudette Colbert, who had Ronald and Nancy Reagan helicoptered over to her house, Bellerive, every day, during their stay. The chopper noise would wake us out of our sleep when they returned to their residence after dinner. My former parents-in-law who owned a hotel, introduced me to the Texas couple who rented their home to the Reagan's, and on the occasion when I met them were not at all happy with the fact that 150 security people had flea-combed their house in preparation for the upcoming presidential visit.

So I would hear all sorts of little comments here and there, and also after meeting some stranded journalists who had flown to Barbados to cover the Grenada invasion, and what happened to them...there were these endless stories which just didn't fit the normal media stories and had me puzzled. So that's how I started this obsession with trying to connect the dots. And I still have not quite figured it all out. Except that I know that their game is played with great precision, a vast spectrum of formality and protocols at one end, and informality and slickness at the other.

The only way to stop them in their tracks might be by destroying all of the top golf courses of the planet, simultaneously. But one also needs to see the consequences if all of them were to be removed at once. And they all can rationalize their actions, which is that the end justifies the means.

So what is the end? Enslaving everyone alive? Reducing the population to 500,000 million, and having their idea of heaven on earth? Trashing the whole planet?

araucaria

11th July 2014, 15:15

Now I know that major decisions are made on golf courses, in beautiful mansions after lunch,
or while swimming during the late afternoons in warm blue oceans waters.
(...)
And they all can rationalize their actions, which is that the end justifies the means.
So what is the end? Enslaving everyone alive? Reducing the population to 500,000 million, and having their idea of heaven on earth? Trashing the whole planet?
Probably all of the above, the last one being not an end (goal) but the end (termination).

The golf links (pun intended) go way back. The Walker Cup is the amateur version of the Ryder Cup, and yes, we are talking about that Walker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walker_Cup

Carmody

12th July 2014, 00:05

Froddo

14th July 2014, 14:02

I'd like to share a short and interesting video in which David Icke explains how the Cabal government is presently preparing Word War III.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w88jdg4goI&sns=em

I' really hope that "aware part of the humanity" be able to to avoid that horrible timeline.

Thanks.

Cidersomerset

14th July 2014, 15:58

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Leon

14th July 2014, 16:01

WWIII has already started, we are in it... but most people are too blind to see it...

They call us Conspiracy theorists, but what do we call the suckers who are sucked into what they see everyday???

We should come up with a nice word for them so whenever we are called Conspiracy theorists we can say .... Suckers is not the right word... anyone?

joeecho

14th July 2014, 16:48

David Icke: World wars change worlds.

Bingo anyone?

http://www.us-bingo.com/images/Bingo-Cages/Bingo-Cage-Ping-Pong-Ball-lg.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFePz942qfM

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/literature-pet-hampster-hamster-hamster_wheel-hamlet-bgr0126l.jpg

https://media.zenfs.com/en-SG/homerun/vulcanpost.com/5ea73b47cf36fb22cc632d2311bbe42e

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wsEabZKQaEI/UoOVN67CcnI/AAAAAAAAHQQ/ksCPIxgCo0U/s1600/Hamster+wheel+for+sale.jpg

There is an eerily sameness to the world (wheel).

sigma6

14th July 2014, 21:02

5w88jdg4goI

I think he's nailed it, the Netenyahoo explanation is a total dead give away. That is one huge gaping hole... I wonder if ISIS will be opening NWO Banks in all the cities along with Crispie Creme donut shops in each city they take over... ??? :O

joeecho

14th July 2014, 21:25

Omni

14th July 2014, 22:40

Wind

14th July 2014, 23:23

I truly hope he is wrong, but everything he has said makes sense. Things have been already set in motion a long time ago... But can we change the future? I think we can. Here's the original video.

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Ellisa

15th July 2014, 07:04

This is a very interesting video, but a bit of me thinks that, whilst the scenario can be made to resemble a well planned plot, equal validity could be given to the whole thing beginning with a ghastly mistake. The Bush administration greatly underestimated the effect of invading Iraq and Afghanistan- they were very desperate to ensure the oil supply continued to flow to the US, and they lacked the imagination, experience, knowledge- whatever- to comprehend what would happen next. In fact it could be suggested that they were played along by some of the other interested parties. When you look at the situation now, who has the advantage? Is war close?-- I hope not, but it is certainly would advantage some of the players in this situation. For instance why are we encouraging Japan to take up arms?

sigma6

15th July 2014, 19:57

Icke predicting things like this may serve to stop it. One can hope... If it doesn't stop it and it happens he gains more credibility amongst the common people. I've said for years I don't think world war 3 is about to happen. But I can't really say that anymore given what Icke has talked about in this video. I see the ingredients. Hopefully world leaders have the wisdom to not follow through with the plans laid before them...

If Icke can see through the veil... the other players can too. thing is more public awareness will help Russia, and it really does look like Russia and China and Iran want to enjoy their hard earned economic recoveries and not have to suffer what they did (and are doing to the Middle East) ie. they build up them up and then destroy them, just to keep making money rebuilding, selling military hardware, destroying each other, and then rebuilding again... We just have to get more people seeing it for what it is... People have the gist... but this kind of analysis really opens ones eyes... goes beyond a reasonable doubt.

Cidersomerset

15th July 2014, 20:07

Below are two posts I put on the tonight in Israel thread, and they do explain the background
That The French and British were committed to establishing a Zionist state in Palestine...

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I almost feel a bit sorry for the caller though who was in way out of his depth with George

Quote George Galloway, the British Politician and Broadcaster, talks to a Jewish caller on his radio program. The caller, besides being totally ignorant to the history of how Palestinian land was occupied by the Jewish forces, displays a level of insanity that has to be heard to be believed. Galloway repeatedly asks him how Britain had the power to grant another country's land to a particular race of people, and the caller fails to understand the reasoning behind the question, and repeats irrelevant and illogical responses like a broken record. Galloway then proceeds to school him over the historical accuracy of his statements, and leaves the caller searching for words, and eventually deciding to leave the conversation to avoid further embarrassment.

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That was very good , I was bracing my ears. but George calmly explained
the situation, I bet few not interested in the subject know Palestine was a
province of the ottoman empire for centuries and after Gen Allenby drove
the Ottoman/Imperial German army out of Palestine, Jordan, Syria, Iraq
Lebanon and Arabia ( See Lawrence of Arabia ) The British and French
divided up the provinces of the former Empire. Thus starting a hundred years of
conflictin that area. Fuelled by oil and other interests, still going on today.

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Professor Ellie Kedoure London School of
Economics said the elites of the world
thought World Jewry one of the great
Occult powers of the world, and the French
and others were commited to Zionism.

They say it all quite calmly in this clip,
and many would not take any notice.
But what we have learn't from the
the alternate media in the last few
years it means a lot more to the 'Elites'
who ran the world then and now.......

Map of Ottoman Empire in 1914

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/files/images/ottoman-empire-map-1000.jpg

You can see on the map this is where the majority of the Middle East
conflicts have taken place over the last century......

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I just watched this doc , gives you more of a feel of how todays crisis stems
back a century to the imperial age. Not to long , but gives you more of a picture
than the smaller vid above. At the end it speculates how the Arab provinces
should have been divided up and the lady academic. ( it does not give her name)
in this segment.

It sounds very much like ISIS.......The Elites at work again ?

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http://cofda.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/new-levant.jpg?

Yesterday, June 29, 2014, ISIS announced that the Islamic caliphate is a reality,
with ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi “the Caliph” and “leader for Muslims
everywhere.” (Incredibly, the United States once had him in custody at a detention
facility in Iraq, the now-closed Camp Bucca near Umm Qasr, but the Obama
administration let him go in 2009.)

http://cofda.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/isis-announces-islamic-caliphate-is-a-reality/

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Lots of events change or can be altered in the vacuum of world events. Like at the
end of WW1 the dividing up of the Ottoman empire. After WW2 the break up of
the French and British mandates in the area and the recreation of Israel. Since
then there has been constant wars between one state or another.

Is this being set up for the battle of Armageddon on the plains of Meggido in
Palestine ? There has been talk of rebuilding the Temple of Solomon.

THIRD TEMPLE HAS BEGUN.. NOW BEING BUILT !
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IF this Caliphate did come about ,Israel would obviously be at threat
and a Nuclear event which could trigger WW3 is very possible if these
scenarios start to take place. It should not be difficult to stop because Russia,
Iran and China back Syria and America and NATO are still technically
backing the Bagdad regime.

But maybe the real elites are letting this happen to fullfill the prophecies
of the Book of Revelations......Just speculating....

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Another short doc I just watched, there are longer indepth ones.....

WWI Arab Revolt: British Imperialism - Zionism
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Published on 25 Jan 2014

The Sykes--Picot Agreement, officially known as the Asia Minor Agreement,
was a secret agreement between the governments of the United Kingdom
and France, with the assent of Russia, defining their proposed spheres of
influence and control in the Middle East should the Triple Entente succeed
in defeating the Ottoman Empire during World War I. The negotiation of
the treaty occurred between November 1915 and March 1916. The agreement
was concluded on 16 May 1916. The agreement effectively divided the Arab
provinces of the Ottoman Empire outside the Arabian peninsula into areas of
future British and French control or influence. The terms were negotiated by
the French diplomat François Georges-Picot and British Sir Mark Sykes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sykes-Pi...

The Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United
Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Walter Rothschild, a leader of
the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great
Britain and Ireland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_...

Cidersomerset

16th July 2014, 16:20

cancel this thread mods please....Steve

see http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?73026-David-Icke-Talks-About-The-Background-To-The-People-s-Voice-...new-vid-16-july-14

Cidersomerset

16th July 2014, 16:20

David Icke Talks About The Background To The People's Voice , and how
OFCOM and other rules and circumstances stifled it before it could properly
get established. This was a gamble and many of the pitfalls were forseen,
but not all and he goes through some of them in the presentation below.

He also goes into how Sonia Paulton is making a film about him called
'Exposing The Messiah'. It sounds like she was planted with others to
bring down the project. If not even if she genuinely had a bad experience
she must know the exposing of the message is far greater than any individual.

Whatever happened she must know Davids work for the last 20 plus yrs.
Even if she disagreed with some of it, there is no way she should be
attacking the likes of David.

Unless she was a plant and this was her agenda all along...?? Think Sonia
before you do something to harm the down trodden majority, just for your
own ego or something more sinister !!

At the end David thanks all who donated to the project that had high
hopes and enthusiasm at the beginning but turned out to over reach
their dreams. On a brighter note the experience has not been forlorn
and he has an idea to do something live on a much smaller scale, but
economically viable.

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Published on 16 Jul 2014

David Icke Talks About The Background To The People's Voice

http://www.davidicke.com

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related thread....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?72948-The-People-s-Voice-What-is-going-on-They-cancelled-my-monthly-donation.

Cidersomerset

17th July 2014, 13:26

What is the Community Press Group and why does it have it in for
David Icke and the UKColumn?

This is a mainstream-lite operation based in Potters Bar north of
London with its director, a former police officer called Dave Eden

http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/article-1023384-0165ADAC00000578-553_468x286.jpg

Why would these people attempt to damage the work of someone
who was at the front line 25 years ago before there was a ‘truth
movement’ and has already done more to alert people to the truth
worldwide than this lot will do collectively if they live to be a thousand?

Who benefits? The System.

Why would they be so quick to criticise the UKColumn which is way
further down the rabbit hole than they will ever be prepared to go?

Who benefits? The System.

Just thinking.

You can expect some major attempts to discredit me in the next few
months which are bubbling in the background at the moment because
I am getting far too close to the truth and they know that I won’t be
intimidated or silenced.

I take it as a compliment and I’ll just run at them quicker.

Watch this space and all that.

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http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

linksplatinum

19th July 2014, 17:55

Some of you may have already heard of this, but it explains a lot of what is currently happening and is still very relevant four years later...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/esp_icke90.htm

March 21, 2010 from TheDailyBell Website

Introduction

David Vaughan Icke is one of the most controversial and entertaining conspiratorial historians commenting today.

Formerly a professional athlete and politician, David Icke underwent a kind of conversion in which he realized he was "a healer who had been placed on Earth for a purpose." Today, his focus is clearly on "who and what is really controlling the world."

He has written numerous books that, in aggregate, have been dubbed "New Age Conspiracism" and has attracted a worldwide following. While his book The Biggest Secret (1999) has been called the "conspiracy theorist's Rosetta Stone," in his interview with the Daily Bell, he reveals a new and even bigger book featuring his latest research on how,

"Humans are being manipulated from the Moon by what is being broadcast from it."

He also speaks about an upcoming promotional tour and further analyzes the setbacks and progress of the elite conspiracy to control the world in all its reptilian glory.

Interview

Daily Bell: Good to meet you. You're prolific and everything we'll ask you likely has an answer in one of your books. But for the purposes of this interview, we'd like you to answer these questions as if for the first time - though please feel free to reference books and articles as you go.

David Icke: OK, sounds good.

Daily Bell: We'll jump right in. How did you end up in a career exposing the reptilian, hybrid power elite?

David Icke: Well I had what you might call a very extraordinary experience, or what you might call a spiritual experience, but that has connotations and it was not a religious experience but a series of things happened to me.

I was a television presenter, I was a professional footballer, a soccer player as you call it in America, and I then went off to become a journalist. Then I went into television.

I was a national television presenter in Britain with the BBC, then I moved vaguely into politics when I became a national spokesperson for the British Green Party in the 1980s, which allowed me to see very clearly that politics was not the answer. Then toward the end of the 80s I was working for the BBC, presenting television programs, speaking for the Green Party and I had this feeling that there was a presence around me. When I was in a room, I was not alone.

This went on for a year and it got more and more powerful until I eventually started to get more and more focused on this - as it got more tangible.

Daily Bell: Can you describe it in more detail?

David Icke: Yes, I was staying at the Kensington Hilton.

I was alone in the room and the feeling of this presence in the room was so powerful that I actually sat on the bed and said,

"Look if there is something there or someone there, would you please contact me because you are driving me up the wall."

A few days later, I am with my son and he is reading some books in a news shop on the Isle of Wight.

I said,

"Let's go get some lunch."

As I turned, my feet would not move.

It was like two magnets were pulling them to the ground. And a thought came in my mind to go in and look at the books on the far side of the store. What on earth am I thinking! But I walked over to an area where there were romantic novels. On top of all these novels was this book called Mind to Mind.

It had a woman's face on it and her name was Betty Shine. I picked it up and read the blurb and she was a psychic/healer.

I bought the book, took it home and read it very quickly and was very interested in what I had read. So I wrote to her, originally to talk to her about this rheumatoid arthritis that I have and how her hands of healing might benefit me. I saw her couple of times. The third time I saw her, we are doing the treatment, and I feel a spider's web on my face.

It made me sort of sit up a bit, because in her book she mentioned that when someone or something is trying to connect with you, you may feel this.

Daily Bell: Did you find out what it was?

David Icke: I had never felt it before or since.

But about 10-15 seconds after I felt this spider's web, she launched her head back and said,

"OMG, I'm going to have to close my eyes for this one - this is powerful!"

So then she starts saying that she has this figure in her mind and is being asked to communicate with me.

Anyway, here I was, a little television presenter, and suddenly I am being told that I am going to go out on the world stage eventually and reveal great secrets. There is a great shadow across the world and there is a great story that has to be told.

She told me,

"One man cannot change the world but one man can communicate the message that can change the world!"

She said I would write five books in three years on certain subjects, which I thought was hilarious because writing five books in three years on subjects I knew at that time nothing about was ridiculous!

Daily Bell: And was it some sort of a joke?

David Icke: No, it wasn't. It happened to the month, actually!

I wrote five books in three years to the very month as it turned out. My life during that period suddenly changed. The BBC decided not to renew my contract for very bizarre reasons and therefore I was out of work.

I could have got other work in the media, but I just wanted to go with what I was feeling and see where it was leading.

Daily Bell: It led to a new career, obviously.

David Icke: My life became a daily experience of meeting people and coming across documents and books, all of which were handing me puzzle pieces in a certain picture, which at the time I knew nothing about.

In the first few years all these puzzle pieces resolved themselves into a network of bloodline families that were manipulating and controlling world events by controlling the banking systems, the political system, etc. These families were behind the pharmaceutical cartel, the oil cartel, the bio-tech cartel, the global media and mainstream media and etc, on and on.

What was interesting was that almost from the start of meeting the psychic, one of the fundamental themes that came into my life was Babylon and what is now called Iraq.

This region is where these bloodlines came out of and eventually became what the world knows as royal bloodlines. And the individuals involved became known as demi-gods, part god part human.

Today, these families and bloodlines have gradually expanded out of Sumer and Babylon. They created the Roman Empire, and through the Roman Empire, they took control of Northern Europe and also London.

Today, Berlin and Paris are big centers for these bloodlines, too. Belgium, by the way, is where NATO and the European Union are. But London became a very major center. Wherever you go or you follow these bloodlines, wherever they locate their headquarters, an empire follows. You had the Babylonian Empire, the Roman Empire, and when these families moved up into northern Europe, you started having the British Empire.

What happened as these empires took over and colonized the world, was that the bloodlines went with them and seeded themselves within these communities, including what became the United States and Canada, etc. Now alongside these bloodline families travels a secret society that manipulates the bloodline families and their agents and gofers into positions of power.

So this is why you find secret society networks wherever they colonize, be it North America, Africa, Australia, wherever.

Daily Bell: Why don't more people know about this secret history you have uncovered?

David Icke: More and more do. But it has been concealed.

There are two types of control - a control you can see called dictatorship, such as fascism, communism or apartheid. But these forms of power very rarely go on indefinitely since eventually people will rebel. Thus, the greatest form of control is a control where a people - the target population - thinks it's free but is not. They are manipulated but will not rebel because they would be rebelling against their own perceptions of freedom.

So this is the preferable state of affairs. And this is what happened when we observe the British Empire.

The Empire withdrew - from the United States, from Canada and elsewhere. It was withdrawn physically, but actually it was sleight-of-hand. The bloodlines left behind their own controlling relatives and agents under different names. So you can see, they have gone on controlling those countries ever since in secret.

Britain has "lost its empire," people say. But it's not Britain we're talking about. The center of this global web of bloodlines and secret societies is actually in Europe for historical reasons, and London, too.

The bloodlines have set up a global corporation run like a massive business on one level and a secret society on another. The spider sits in the web in Europe with the corporation, but you have headquarters in each country, subsidiary companies of the corporation. They will follow the blueprint that is dictated from the headquarters - so all the secret societies and bloodline families operate exactly the same way.

You have the headquarters in Europe and then in Canada, United States, each country you have this network, another web, a sub web, etc.

Daily Bell: Your books cite evidence for all of this?

David Icke: I have been to 50 countries researching this structure over that past 20 years and a number of times I have seen the same things being introduced in the same countries using the same excuses in different parts of the world. Sometimes the legislation is even worded the same way. This is their structure.

The aim is to create a global version of George Orwell's 1984.

The idea is to centralize power in every area of our lives and it has gotten to a point where this centralization of global power was actually given a name, innocently enough, by the people on which it was being inflicted - "globalization."

Globalization is just the centralization of global power in every area of our lives, which is the agenda unfolding. Of course, there are many misunderstandings, and you get people on the left protesting against the big, bad corporations. The corporations are not the generators of globalization but THE VEHICLES FOR IT.

The generator of it is this global secret society web.

You know, I said years ago, there will come a point where this will break the surface and people will see it because when you are covertly manipulating something, there comes a point where you have to start building the bricks and mortar visibly. All over the world now people are starting to see Big Brother. They are starting to see more control and greater surveillance and the lack of privacy.

They are seeing more and more laws that are Draconian or fascist in nature, and it is because of this agenda that's been unfolding for thousands of years, step by step by step, that it has now reached the point where it's closing in on its end goal. But this is not all bad, by any means. In fact, in some ways it's a fantastic thing! People are finally starting to lift their heads out of the sand.

A shared perception of what's going on is starting to take place.

Daily Bell: So it's all coming true, from your perspective. Are you getting proper credit, or are you still running into resistance? You call yourself the most controversial speaker and author in the world.

David Icke: I don't say that. It's a tag that has kept up with me over the years. But it IS difficult to find someone more controversial.

For instance, when I started this journey, as I said earlier, the first few years were all about uncovering the global structure of control - the banking control, the political control, the media control - and how they all fit together and how it was all orchestrated by the same group.

But then something else came into my research - the question, why are these bloodlines, today, different than you and I? What started to come into my life, again, in tremendous synchronistic abundance were experiences and people that provided me with ancient information and modern information that helped me solve the problem.

What I found eventually - and without doubt, so far as I was concerned - was that there was interbreeding between non-human reptilians and humans, which created a hybrid bloodline.

Now, when people first hear that they think it's crazy. But why? If you can limit people's sense of possibility, which is a massive part of this manipulation, then you limit their sense of what is possible. No, no, it's not impossible.

Anyway, when I started looking at this, I realized this story of a reptilian race interbreeding with humans in the ancient world to create this bloodline was actually a very common story in ancient legends and stories. It even connects to the biblical story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, with what? A serpent!

If you don't put it out there, then it can't circulate. And when you start talking about that connection, then it gets highly controversial because Icke is saying WHAT? So I've always been controversial.

But let me tell you something... When my new book comes out, the tag of the most controversial speaker in the world will take on a whole new level! What I'm explaining now, for instance, in my latest research - is that the Moon is not a heavenly body but a construct!

Humans are being manipulated from the Moon by what is being broadcast from it.

Daily Bell: You're not kidding? That's certainly bound to cause a stir.

David Icke: It's never been properly explained before. But I go into great detail about how it's done, how the Moon connects into the human body computer and the human brain.

And basically what is happening is a Luna-like version of what is portrayed in the Matrix movies where reality seemed solid but was only a dream. With my perception of what the Moon is, controversy will escalate once again.

My investigations and resultant books have occurred in phases.

One phase was the investigation of the banking scams, the political scams and connections of what I talked to you about. Another was the reptilian phase, and another from about 2003 focused on the nature of reality - the illusory nature of reality, which has its counterpart on the worldwide web, as I show very clearly with great support in detailed evidence in this new book.

Daily Bell: Give us a little more detail about the mechanisms at work.

David Icke: Yes, the body is basically a biological computer system. Crystalline... the fabric of every cell.

The membrane of every cell is crystalline. DNA is crystalline. I have been to an alternative doctor's clinic where he has taken my blood and put it under a massive microscope. We have viewed it to the point where my blood turned quite blatantly into a quartz crystal. So we are receiver-transmitters of information.

What happens is that information - lunar reality is encoded in what we call photon energy. It's weight, form and vibration, if you like. And what the five senses do is they decode vibrational information and turn it into electrical information. It's like if you tune into your computer in South America or Australia or America to the World Wide Web, even though you are in a different part of the world you are accessing a collective reality.

It is the very fabric of the universe we are experiencing, what I call in my book 'the cosmic internet.'

So when you add that to the reptilian stuff and add that to the manipulation of the world and the bloodline families and you add that to the Moon isn't real, you have built up quite a CV of controversy! (laughing).

Daily Bell: From what we can tell, then, you welcome controversy.

David Icke: I'm a seeker of knowledge, especially when it comes to social control.

All of this is fundamental to understanding how the few control the many. If you want to manipulate how people experience reality, then you can manipulate the reality, or you can manipulate the way they decode reality. That is much easier.

We are not our bodies, we are infinite consciousness, and the body is just the vehicle to experience this reality.

Daily Bell: Of course, people experience reality in all sorts of ways.

David Icke: That's true. And if you can manipulate how the human body computer decodes reality, then you can control how millions of people perceive the world and therefore you can control their behavior.

It's very much the same principal as a stage hypnotist. I went to see some shows when I was researching all of this. You can see people sitting on a stage being implanted with a belief by the hypnotist. Then the subject will take a bite of the potato and decode it as an apple, because the hypnotist has reprogrammed his brain.

Try to tell those people on the stage when they are in that state that what they are seeing or what they are tasting is not true, and they will claim YOU'RE crazy. This comes back to the sense of reality, the sense of limited possibility. When people say to me "you're mad, you're crazy, that's impossible" that's their programming speaking.

But when you start awakening, as people are awakening all over the world, you start to see things that you've never seen before. At this point now, it's blatantly obvious, WHY didn't I see this before?

Like I said earlier, enormous numbers of people are now beginning to do that, hence the interest in my work and similar stuff.

Daily Bell: Your book, The Biggest Secret, has been called the conspiracy theorist's Rosetta stone. Why?

David Icke: Well I think what The Biggest Secret did was it jumped over the cutting edge and went well beyond.

It was the first book where I really started to connect the dots. But unfortunately what happened in Britain after I had my awakening and started talking about some of this stuff is that I went on national television and as a result I faced the most fantastic levels of ridicule.

Through the early 90s I couldn't go anywhere in Britain, down any street without being laughed at. Going into a pub was impossible, there was uproar. A comedian only had to say my name on the television and he got a laugh, no joke necessary.

When you undergo something like that, it can destroy you or make you stronger. If you're lucky, it can pry you out of that prison where most people live in - the fear of what others think. Most people spend their days trying to live up to a version of how they believe they should behave based on what people think.

And this is a process that I have talked about and written about for years. Humans don't need a sheepdog; we keep each other in line, by imposing norms and jumping on anyone that challenges them.

So what happened to me, that mass ridicule in the 1990s, cleaned me out. I no longer feared what others would think. And that was essential, absolutely essential, because this journey that I have been on is also about my personal development, my personal de-programming.

The layers of the onion were peeled off so that I was capable of doing what I am doing in the most effective way. My role, as I see it, is to constantly challenge the cutting edge and keep walking forward.

Socrates said,

'Wisdom is knowing how little we know'.

The world is a collective.

If the world is going to be free, it's only going to be free if we free ourselves of fear. All these things are what hold us in our own self-made prisons because, in reality, a few cannot control the many, unless the vast majority acquiesces.

We need to set ourselves free.

Daily Bell: All right. But from what - reptilian humanoids and the Babylonian Brotherhood?

David Icke: The Babylonian Brotherhood is the name of this network of secret societies that we talked about earlier.

The elite reptilian hybrids are the result of this interbreeding between humans and this reptilian race. And what is interesting is wherever you go in the world you will find knowledge of this interbreeding. Wherever you go, you find serpent worship because these reptilian entities were perceived as gods.

Serpent worship is the oldest form of worship. They have found evidence of it in the Kalahari Desert area of South Africa, 70,000 years ago. And the people of that area, the sand people known as the Bushman and also the Zulu, hold these beliefs.

The story is that modern humans were seeded in Africa in an area called the Stiletto Hills, near the Kalahari Desert, by the great dragon. You go to the Far East, to Japan and China, what is the very symbol of those cultures? The Dragon. The reptilian dragon!

This is a cultural memory of interbreeding with these reptilian gods.

The ancient Chinese Emperors claimed the right to be Emperor because of their genetic connection to what they called the serpent gods. But people reject it by reflex action and never look at the evidence to support it. One thing I would say is I am a kamikaze pilot. When I put this stuff out about reptilians and the Moon and reality, I do the hard research and I back it up with evidence - and the evidence is enormous.

But most people in the mainstream will not even look at it!

Daily Bell: Are any of your ideas linked to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

David Icke: I mention the protocols in my new book. I've got a chapter in the book that I call the Zion Mainframe.

What is Zionism? Most people will say, well that is Jewish people. Well actually it is not, it's a political system. It's a political system and at it's core is a secret society.

Do people know where it came from? Well no. OK, I will tell you it came from the House of Rothschild. The House of Rothschild is fundamental to this, as they came from a family in Germany who were called Bauer, and they changed their name to Rothschild. Which actually translates as "Red Shield."

The original Rothschild, Amschel Bauer-Rothschild, had a red shield on his house in Frankfurt when he started his banking dynasty. And that shield was the symbol that is known as the Star of David, which is not actually a Jewish symbol.

It's an ancient esoteric symbol found all over the world.

Daily Bell: Yes, the use of the Star of David as a Jewish symbol does seem fairly recent. There are references in antiquity, however, to a "shield" of David, but that is not the same thing.

David Icke: In fact, excavations in Tel Aviv found the star of David on the floor of an ancient Muslim mosque. Israel is not a homeland for Jewish people.

Israel is a fiefdom owned by the Rothschilds. Now what the Rothschilds have created is Zionism, because they wanted to have a foothold in the Middle East, that would create mayhem as part of an agenda for long-term global control. This is not the government of the Israeli people in Tel Aviv. It is a government front for the Rothschilds.

The Rothschilds spent five million pounds back in the 50s to build the Knesset. Imagine what that would be today. The Knesset is the Israeli Parliament. The Supreme Court building was built by the Rothschilds as well.

Throughout my books when I mentioned Zionism, I always call it Rothschild Zionism so that people are constantly reminded of the real source of what it is and who created it and who controls it and not the illusory connection that is for the benefit of the Jewish people.

It's not, it's for the benefit of the House of Rothschild and the global agenda of this network of families of which they are one. But a very, very significant one. So, when these so called Protocols of Zion came up, what they were, or claimed to be, and I'm not saying they are genuine or not genuine, I'm just saying we need to look at this and not dismiss it by reflex action.

I will go on pursuing any line of inquiry that will lead to a greater understanding that could lead to that outcome.

Daily Bell: What do you think of modern medicine? Are you cured of arthritis?

David Icke: No I am not cured. The one thing the psychic predicted that has not happened is that I still have arthritis.

In general, modern medicine is an absolute abomination. It's a despicable attack on human health on the human immune system and human vitality. In my new book, I look at this modern medicine scam, this corrupt mafia and I take it apart.

The eugenics movement in America, for instance, was very strong in the first part of the 20 th century and included many big names. Organizations like Planned Parenthood, a Rockefeller funded organization, actually started as a eugenics outfit. It changed its title after the war based on the bad name that the Nazi's gave to eugenics.

The Rockefellers sent over a whole team of top eugenics specialists from America to help the Nazis in their research into race purity during World War II. People don't realize that. This is absolutely true and a documentable fact by the way.

Daily Bell: Would you characterize yourself as a philosopher?

David Icke: Hm-mm well, I don't know. Isn't it funny how people like to label everybody and they like to label themselves.

Who are you? I'm a philosopher. Who are you? Well I'm a doctor. NO, you are none of those things. That's what you are experiencing. What you are is consciousness. And what we do is constantly misunderstand the difference between who we are and what we are experiencing.

Once we identify who we are with what we are experiencing we are immediately pulled into limitation! I just am. We all just are. I don't give myself any kind of label, I just am. And I am seeking to know more and more about what's happening in the world.

When I get information, then I communicate it. That's all I am doing.

Daily Bell: Is your work a metaphor - an allegory - even though it's not understood that way?

David Icke: I use analogies a lot, but, no, I am not interested in allegory.

You know there were people years ago that said,

"When he says reptiles, he really means Jewish people."

No I don't! I mean bloody reptiles, with scales!

You see, because some of the stuff I say is so far out from what people perceive is possible or happening, they think I'm operating in the realm of allegory.

"He can't really be talking about reptiles!"

But I am.

Daily Bell: Do you see yourself as free-market oriented?

David Icke: Again, that is another label.

What I believe is that people should have the right to live the life they want to lead as long as they don't impose their will on other people. I have a simple philosophy on life and if we followed or lived our lives in accordance with it, we would not need any laws any more.

My philosophy is simple,

"do what you like as long as you don't impose on others."

No other laws are necessary.

You are free to do what you want to do. If you want to do this, go ahead. All agreed, go ahead and do it. You see I am exposing people who are doing what they want to do and forcing it on other people.

That's when I get interested.

Daily Bell: Is that how you got interested in economics?

David Icke: The economic system that we have today is absolutely grotesque.

Again people don't realize what the economic system is. We lend people money that doesn't even exist and charge them interest on it. It's just figures on a screen. And they lend you these figures on a screen and you must pay interest back on money that has never, does not or will never exist! This is what the banking system is.

Banks are allowed to lend money at least ten times on what they have on deposits -it's called fractional reserve lending.

Which means when you go into a bank and ask for $50,000 loan, they don't give you $50,000, they don't move precious metal anywhere or print any money, they just type into your account $50,000.

And from that moment you are paying them back $50,000 plus interest that doesn't exist, it's just been conjured out of nowhere on a screen.

Every time you put a dollar in the bank, you are giving the bank the right to lend at least $10 it doesn't have and charge interest on it. There is never ever anywhere near enough money in circulation to pay back all the loans and all the interest on the loans outstanding. It's built in by design.

So that means people are losing their homes, losing their businesses, losing their land, it's built into the system.

It has to happen because there is not enough money in circulation to pay back the interest and the loans outstanding. You pay Peter to pay Paul while there is an economic expansion going on but as soon as a depression comes in, then the amount of money in circulation is reduced by the banks refusing to issue credit.

Then suddenly the amount of money in circulation is even less, far less that is necessary to pay all the outstanding principal and interest on the loans, so therefore more people lose their homes and their businesses in very large numbers.

I think we can come up with a better economic system, one that is fair. We have to stop charging interest on money. Interest on money has been a modus operandi of these bloodline families going right back to Babylon.

Daily Bell: Have you read Austrian economics?

David Icke: No.

Daily Bell: Are you optimistic or pessimistic about the next 100 years?

David Icke: Absolutely, 100%, solid gold optimistic.

The reason for exposing this global manipulation, this global conspiracy is for one reason - to bring it to an end. Now more and more people, vast numbers of people, are waking up to how the world is controlled.

And that's fantastic!

You know people go,

"Oh it's ever so negative what you saying about what these people are doing."

Well please excuse me! Knowledge is never negative. Ignorance is negative.

And if you think it's negative and fearful to expose what is going on in the world so we can do something about it, then you are saying something about you and not the information.

Over the next few years, there are going to be many challenges and it's going to seem for a while this system is unstoppable. It isn't!

In my lifetime, and I am 58, this system of control is coming down and we are going to live in a very, very different world. I am incredibly optimistic. One 100 years from now, well... I would like to be here 100 years from now.

Daily Bell: What is next for you?

David Icke: I have a new book coming out next month. It's at the printers and it's the biggest work I have ever done.

It is nearly 700 pages, 355,000 words, 325 illustrations and 32 pages of original color art. For me it's a major work and it's called HUMAN RACE GET OFF YOUR KNEES -THE LION SLEEPS NO MORE.

It's a very comprehensive book and I think it's going to have a massive impact. I will also be speaking in America this year; I will be in New York, Chicago and San Francisco in October. I will be speaking in Europe too, Amsterdam, Athens and London on September 11.

Daily Bell: Do you have anything to add?

David Icke: Well, as I said my books and my website (www.davidicke.com) have as much information as people can consume really.

I've been at this a long time and this is my life. I don't take holidays or anything like that. I don't want them. I have produced a fantastic amount of information for people. It's all there, most of it for free. Now this new book is going to create the usual amount of name-calling. But I've heard it all before.

If you don't push the cutting edge, the cutting edge never moves.

Daily Bell: Thank you for sitting down with us. You have been generous with your time and we're sure readers will appreciate it.

Daily Bell After Thoughts

Readers can make up their own mind about David Icke and his vision of the way the world works.

But we do want to point out that he does something very interesting - that almost no other public personality does in quite the same way. This former professional soccer player and television presenter has made himself over into an almost shamanistic figure, one who makes a living by clothing his observations (though, yes, he does deny it) in allegory.

Now we make no judgments and cast no aspersions.

But what is most interesting about him in our view - and despite his denials - is the wonderfully imaginative and muscular way he builds up his observations. The characterizations of the elite as reptilian, for instance - agree or not - is an amazingly provocative archetype. It has burrowed its way into Western culture like a tapeworm. Carl Jung would be proud.

Is it coincidence? He seems to use these techniques over and over. In his upcoming book, for instance, Icke apparently wants to compare the cultural commonality of human beings - and our tendency toward certain shared (shame-based) perspectives - to a kind of biological Internet.

Thus, he clothes his arguments once again in a tangible, if imaginative, metaphor.

The Moon, so far as we can tell, is to be presented as a geological server and humans are perceived as PCs with "crystalline" blood that allows them to resonate to the messages being sent by the earth's nearest orb.

Again, he will claim none of this is predetermined or calculating, but stems from his research and discoveries.

Nonetheless, these are fictional techniques used by story-tellers throughout the ages. Even more fascinating from our perspective, they are methodologies that have fallen out of favor in the present day. Today's novelists and playwrights use Icke's techniques only self-consciously; presenting them in a manner that allows the audience to perceive the artifice from the beginning.

This sort of post-modernism is "all the vogue" and has been for a while. Icke, therefore, is a throwback.

Seen from this point of view, in fact, his entire oeuvre becomes a recognizable mythos and Icke himself becomes identifiable as a magical healer or a priest of secret mysteries. He is, of course, well aware of the evolving nature of his presentations, and even refers to them as phases. And while this interview ran long and was edited to ensure a (hopefully) cogent presentation, his methodologies should be clear enough to anyone who chooses to read - or see. (In our opinion anyway.)

What he does is both compelling and unusual - and worthy of comment.

He is making a series of controversial observations and bringing them to life using age-old techniques. And, yes, the utilization of this approach is indeed shamanistic. Icke presents himself -and we cannot think of anyone else who does so similarly - as a kind of magical "other" wielding archetypes as old as humanity to animate his perceptions.

Of course, we live in an age of sophistry and militant mundanity, an era that has spawned a million universities and tens of millions of professional pundits, many of whom proclaim a high-level of insight when it comes to storytelling. Yet such is the fashionable contempt for Icke's message, that we would bet very few academic studies have been done on Icke or his activities (at least very few that deal with the reasons for his impact as a presenter of a compelling mythos rather than alleged "rascism," etc.).

Here is a man who is singlehandedly proposing a kind of creation myth, and making a living doing so.

Again, leaving aside its reality, or purported practicality, the level of imagination and determination he brings to the task is noteworthy. Unnoticed by fashionable thinkers of our modern era - and a little like the poet William Blake, strangely enough - he is in the middle of creating his own cosmogony.

Its popular acceptance and penetration in this day and age, for whatever reason, is worth pondering.

Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 09:38

Why is Israel so quite about ISIS ? Because they along with the US/UK are
encouraging them behind the scenes......

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David Icke on Red Ice Radio: Origins of Israel & New Mono World Order

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 10:15 By david-icke

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‘Considered one of the classics of conspiracy research, David Icke has spent the last
quarter of a century unraveling the secrets of the universe, reality and the forces that
manipulate our world. After writing more than 20 books, David Icke has driven on with
his unrelentless investigation into subject areas that others don’t dare touch.

Icke shares his analysis of US occupation in the Middle East. He’ll also talk about ISIS,
with an alleged extremist Islamic agenda, yet silence from Israel. We’ll talk about the
genocide of Palestinians and the redrawing of the Middle East with Israel as the new dictator.’

David discusses the origins of Israel, which is based on a hoax. He’ll discuss events
leading up to the creation of the State of Israel. Then, we’ll talk about where the elite
want to take the world and the techniques they’re using to get there. Their techniques
include the destruction of nationhood and forced multiculturalism. Icke comments on
Europeans who are re-acting to preserve their nationhood, challenging the European
Union and fighting back. We’ll talk about how the elite are working hard to establish a
one world culture, a mono everything, through killing true diversity. Later, he’ll speak
on the inner core of Zionism that functions like a secret society. We also talk about how
young Jews are being programmed from birth and being used for a bigger strategy. At
the end we discuss how people are frightened into silence, sticking their heads in the
sand but this will not make the problems go away. Diversity of everything, including
power is needed.

Listen here …

http://rediceradio.net/radio/2014/RIR-140725-davidicke-low.mp3

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014
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The David Icke Videocast: Problem-Reaction-Solution and Flight MH17

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 10:12 By david-icke

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The Rothschilds Own Israel – and Direct its Genocidal Policy

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 10:11 By david-icke

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The Rothschilds own 80% of Israel,

according to Simon Schama. They built the Israeli Supreme Court. They own
Reuters and the Associated Press (AP), the two biggest media agencies in the
world. They have a controlling share in the Royal Dutch oil company, the Bank of
England and the LBMA (London Bullion Market Association). They foment wars,
install presidents, dethrone kings and bankrupt nations, such is their power.

The Rothschilds typically operate behind the scenes. In the case of Israel, the
Rothschilds engineered WWI and waited until 1917 when Britain was in trouble. The
Rothschilds then promised the British Government that they could get the US to
enter WWI (on the side of Britain) and thus ensure Britain’s victory of Germany et
al. However, they wanted something in return: Palestine. Thus the Balfour
Declaration was created, which is an official letter from the British Government
Foreign Secretary James Balfour to Baron Rothschild. It states that: ” His Majesty’s
government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for
the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement
of this object.”

There is a big problem with this. Palestine was never Britain’s to give away. It
rightfully belongs to the Arab and Palestinian people living there. The Rothschild
Zionist Jews came in, took over and forcibly evacuated and killed millions of
Palestinians who lived there. They are still committing genocide to this day. The
creation of the Zionist state Israel was massively unjust right from the start.
Something conceived in iniquity breeds conflict down the road. It is no
exaggeration to say that the founding of Israel itself may be the precursor to WWIII.

Zionist Israel controls the governments of the US, Britain, Canada, France and
more – and the Rothschilds control Israel.

http://freedom-articles.toolsforfreedom.com/the-rothschilds-own-israel/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 10:10

It Turns Out Hamas Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the three Israeli Teens After All

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 10:06 By david-icke

Anyone with half a brain could see that from the start – sacrificed children for the excuse to sacrifice hundreds more.

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‘When the bodies of three Israeli teenagers, kidnapped in the West Bank, were found late last month,
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu did not mince words. “Hamas is responsible, and Hamas
will pay,” he said, initiating a campaign that eventually escalated into the present conflict in the region.

But now, officials admit the kidnappings were not Hamas’s handiwork after all.’

Read more: It Turns Out Hamas Didn’t Kidnap and Kill the three Israeli Teens After All

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/07/hamas-didnt-kidnap-the-israeli-teens-after-all.html

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Israel extends ceasefire for 24 hours, Gaza death toll surpasses 1,000

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 10:02 By david-icke

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‘Over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed since Israel started its military operation in Gaza,
officials said. As world leaders called for a full truce, Israel extended the humanitarian ceasefire
in Gaza for 24 hours.

The ceasefire has been prolonged until Sunday at midnight, the country’s cabinet
decided late Saturday .’

Read more: Israel extends ceasefire for 24 hours, Gaza death toll surpasses 1,000

http://rt.com/news/175852-gaza-ceasefire-deathtoll-thousand/

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45,000 gather in London to protest Israeli action in Gaza

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 09:40 By david-icke

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THE INDEPENDENT.....

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‘Tens of thousands of people amassed outside the Israeli embassy in London today to protest against
Israel’s incursion into Gaza which has killed over 1000 Palestinians, including at least 192 children.

Chanting messages of solidarity to the Palestinian people, a constant flow of supporters filed through
High Street Kensington underground station from early in the day.

45,000 people joined the demonstration, which later followed a route to Parliament, according to
figures released by the Metropolitan Police.’

Read more: 45,000 gather in London to protest Israeli action in Gaza

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‘Today in London crowds are gathering to vent their anger in a mass demonstration and march to
Parliament to “stop the massacre in Gaza” and call for an arms embargo against Israel. This follows
last weekend’s huge protest outside the Israeli embassy and campaigns against the BBC’s pro-Israel
bias in reporting the assault on Gaza.

There is growing resentment among British people at being endlessly shamed by their government’s
complicity in the mega-injustices and non-stop crimes inflicted on the native people of the Holy Land,
exemplified by Whitehall’s attempts to whitewash Israel’s latest genocidal offensive.’

Read more …

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2014/07/britain-dies-shame/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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The Israel lobby in United Kingdom - Peter Oborne

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Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 10:30

Where have the Rothschilds disappeared to?
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Good presentation by David about the Rothchild Zionists. Mainstream
press and academics ignore him or laugh , but Where does David get
most of his information ? Research connecting the dots. He may ad
his own interpretations on his findings which is open to debate, but
the basic facts he presents are available to any one to research.

The difference between Jews and Zionism is not what David made up.

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Talk to Al Jazeera - Rabbi Dovid Weiss: Zionism has created 'rivers of blood'

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Published on 10 Mar 2012

The Jewish scholar explains why Zionism and Judaism are not necessarily the
same thing and why he believes that Israel as a state is not legitimate.

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The David Icke Videocast: Exposing The Lie On Israel’s Fake History – ‘The Cruellest Hoax’

Sunday 20 July 2014

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The David Icke Videocast: Exposing The Lie On Israel's Fake History - 'The Cruellest Hoax'

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An honest Israeli Jew tells the Real Truth about Israel

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Published on 2 Dec 2012

Miko Peled was born in Jersusalem into a famous and influential Israeli Zionist
family. His father was a famous General in the Israeli Army, of which Miko also
served his time. When Miko's niece was killed by Palestinian suicide bombers, you
may have expected the family to put Palestinians at fault, but surprisingly they
blamed the state of Israel, and their violent torturing and persecution for driving
people to such sadness that they would take their own lives.

Through his father's deep knowledge of the Israeli war of terror, together with his
own research, Miko Peled ruins the myths surrounding the Israel and Palestine
situation, and delivers a truth so damning that many Jews and Israel supporters
will not be able to bear it. He reveals facts such as the original expelled Jews are
not the ones returning, and they are not their descendants either, covers the
double standards regarding the right of return, which doesn't apply to Palestinians,
and dispels the myth that there has been a conflict for ages by producing proof that
it was peaceful up until 1947 when Israel launched their illegal attacks.

Miko is just one of the many modern day Jews against Zionism and the state of
Israel, and with the information he delivers in this astounding talk, it is not difficult
to see why more and more Jews are rejecting Zionism and calling for the
dismantling of Israel. It is a true eye-opener for anyone who has for too long been
blinded by the fake misinformation given by the mainstream media, and the truths
come straight from the heartland where he has spent many years documenting the real story.

Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 10:47

Form MH 17 Thread.....

My question to Israel is, what is it in Palestine that you so badly want??

I think there are various reasons for the Zionist take over of 'The Holy Land'

By getting rid of non Isreali muslims, they will be able to

Rebuild Solomon's temple and full fill the bible prophecies ...

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Mysteries of the Temple

Why does Rothschild, the Jewish Sanhedrin, the Masonic Lodge, The Mormon
Church, and scores of Satanic cults seek to rebuild Solomonï¿½s Temple in
Jerusalem? What of Jesusï¿½ prophecy that the Temple of the Jews would be
destroyed and the House of Israel "left desolate" until His return? Why do millions
of pro-Zionist evangelical Christians take pride in attempting to undo what Christ
has done and strive to nullify Jesusï¿½ prophecy and rebuild both the Temple and
the House of Israel? What occult mysteries and satanic purposes are embodied in
the millennia-old quest to rebuild the Temple and reinstitute blood sacrifices? What
will happen when the antichrist (666) enters the rebuilt Temple and blasphemously
declares he is "God?"

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My question to the Cabal is, what is it in Ukraine that you so badly want??

Maybe to do with that is the region where the Khazar Jews come from and
most jews in Isreal desended from Khazari , see a couple of posts up and
below......

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Wouldn't have anything to do with some ancient pyramids, tunnels and artifacts, would it?

Don't know...LOL ..but keep your eye on that !!

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Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 10:56

From MH17 thread....

It does seem Israel is connected to MH17, but speculation is all it's adding up too. With Israel ramping up it's killing machine and the media focusing more there right now, I don't believe it's an accident or coincidental that the masses (mindless minds) are being steered drastically in that direction right now.

According to Texe the US and Israel are behind the Ukrainian mess...

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A bit biblical but this is at the heart of all this bollocks, and some elites follow
this like gospel ( so to speak ) and this may be why these events are being
manipulated into fulfilling prophecy......He explains how Israel and the US
organised and sponsored the 'Orange 'revolution and are controlling events
behind the scenes....

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TEXE MARRS - MYSTERY BABYLON LIVES! - JULY 19, 2014

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Published on 19 Jul 2014

Ezekiel 38-39 prophesies that in the last days, Gog, demonic ruler of the land of Magog,
shall come against Israel, which is brought forth out of the nations. He shall come like a
storm and shall conquer this land of unwalled villages, and take them hostage

Who is Gog? Where is the land of Magog? Now, with new and astonishing archaeological
and genetic discoveries, we have amazing evidence that, in fact, Magog is situated in
Southern Russia, in the Caucusus, and Gog is the name of the great ruler of the Kingdom
of Khazaria. Khazaria is the land of the non-Semitic, Turkic peoples who falsely claim to be
Jews. From Khazaria, in the eight century, these pagan peoples, having converted to Judaism,
fled to Europe to escape invading Russian warriors.

In 1948, the Khazarians went on to Palestine, where they conquered the peaceful Palestinians
and set up a pretentious, new "Kingdom of Israel." The Khazarians, claiming to be "Jews," are
from Magog. Led by Satan's Gog, in the last days they are destined to plunge the entire world
into bloodshed, chaos, and war. Ezekiel 38-39 is fulfilled in front of our eyes! http://www.texemarrs.com/

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Jackovesk posted this on MH 17 thread....

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Latest update from Dr. Steve Pieczenik (PhD) with Alex Jones - Thursday July 24 2014

Pieczenik interview starts @ 1:05:20mins

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All true, and the primary reason Hitler and the 3rd Reich plundered countries for their ancient knowledge
and sacred sites is well documented; these areas are literally gold mines (Iraq included in that ). Oil is just a smokescreen.

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Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 11:53

" This interview will get you really angry at "Insanity Hannity " Guarenteed !!

Cenk Uygur Trashes ‘Pussy’ Hannity: ‘I’ll Kick His Ass All Day Long’

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 08:30 By david-icke

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Ceasefire Reveals Horrific Images Of Gaza Neighborhoods Reduced To Rubble By Israeli Airstrikes

new Sunday 27th July 2014 at 07:28 By david-icke

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The children of Gaza I Channel 4 News

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Jon Snow's moving message upon his return from Gaza.

Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 12:19

Thousands rally in Tel Aviv against Israel war on Gaza

Sunday 27th July 2014 at 06:05 By david-icke

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‘Thousands of Israelis have taken to the streets in Tel Aviv to condemn the incessant military
strikes against the Palestinians in the besieged Gaza Strip, which have killed more than 1,000
people and wounded many more since July 8.

On Saturday, as many as 5,000 people, mostly left-wing and anti-war activists, participated in
the protest at the Rabin Square despite police calls urging the demonstrators not to attend the rally.

The protesters carried banners reading “End the Occupation” and “Stop the Massacre in Gaza.”’

Read more: Thousands rally in Tel Aviv against Israel war on Gaza

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/27/372936/1000s-rally-in-tel-aviv-against-gaza-war/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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US sends ‘very clear message to Israel’: International lawyer

Sunday 27th July 2014 at 06:15 By david-icke

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‘Zbigniew Brzezinski’s strong criticism of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu over
the massacre of Palestinians in Gaza indicates a “fundamental change in policy” by the
US government and is a “clear message” to Israel, an international lawyer says.

In a recent interview with Fareed Zakaria on CNN, Brzezinski, political scientist,
geo-strategist, and former national security advisor to President Jimmy Carter, said
Netanyahu is isolating Israel and “endangering its longer-range future.”

“This is not some third-rate stringer or third-rate pundit,” Barry Grossman told Press
TV in a phone interview on Saturday. “We are talking here about a former national
security advisor, current advisor to the Obama administration and senior member of
the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).”’

Read more: US sends 'very clear message to Israel': International lawyer

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/07/26/372880/fundamental-change-in-us-israel-policy/

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

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Thousands Of Protesters In Times Square Demand U.S. Aid To Israel Be Cutoff Immediately!

Sunday 27th July 2014 at 06:16 By david-icke

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Published on 26 Jul 2014

July 26, 2014 MSNBC News http://MOXNews.com

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Massive PRO Palestinian Protests In France Outlawed

Sunday 27th July 2014 at 06:31 By david-icke

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A father opens a plastic bag: ‘This is my son,’ he says, killed by an Israeli shell

Sunday 27th July 2014 at 06:19 By david-icke

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‘Salem Antez, 29, approached with a purple plastic bag and opened it, its contents terrible.

“This is my son,” he said and nothing else, tears tracking down his face. Mohammad, another
family member explained, was two. The other dead were Abed Ali, 24, and Mohammad Ibrahim,
13. Salem bent back to his task – his bag becoming a little heavier. “They hit us at 8.45pm,”
an uncle said. “We had just finished our Iftar meal and were gathered here for safety.”

The morning after the night of the artillery barrage that launched Israel’s ground offensive into
Gaza drew back the veil on the consequences – a bleak procession of the dead and injured from
the coastal enclave’s south through its eastern border regions up to the north.’

Read more: A father opens a plastic bag: 'This is my son,' he says, killed by an Israeli shell

Cidersomerset

27th July 2014, 15:46

From M17 thread.....

While all this suffering is going on in Gaza, Syria, Libya and other parts
of the muslim world others enjoy the same life style as their elits
conterparts in the rest of the world.....

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THE MUSLIM WORLD IS CERTAINLY NOT EQUAL UNDER GOD !!!!!

THE SAME AS EVERY OTHER RELIGION !!! As far as I can see......

Caller Lambasted Saudi Royal Family, House of Saud, Saudi Arabia ,
George says at the end it was so power full it almost made him cry.

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Published on 31 Jul 2013

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ABC News investigates Saudi Royal Family lavish lifestyle

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Published on 13 Apr 2014

ABC News investigates the lavish lifestyle of the Saudi royal family and talks to
those who say the Saudi princes at play in the Riviera, St. Tropez, Cannes, and
Monte Carlo are making a mockery of their faith and have enraged critics who
seek to overthrow the kingdom's rulers. ABC also reports on the alleged
involvement of some Saudi princes in cocaine smuggling, prostitution rings and
suspected efforts to fund terrorists. In the program, ABC News interviews Prince
Al Walid Bin Talal and investigated prostitution charges against Prince Abdel Azziz
bin Fhad and drug smuggling charges against Prince Nayef bin Fawwaz al Shaalan.

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House of Saud

The family is estimated to be composed of 15,000 members, but the majority of the
power and wealth is possessed by a group of only about 2,000

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Prince Charles takes part in traditional Saudi sword dance - no comment

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Haram Lifestyle Of Saudi Prince Al Walid bin Tallal

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In Gaza, the figure living below the poverty line stood at 78%

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WORLD'S RICHEST ARABS 2014

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1. HRH Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Al Saud ($31.2 billion)
The Saudi prince's share of the Kingdom Holding Company along
with other private holdings such as Rotana brings his total wealth
to $25.90 billion.

2 Mohamed Al Jaber $12.66bn uk(saudi arabia)

3. The Olayan Family ($12.5 billion)
Founded as a trucking company in 1947, Saudi Arabia's Olayan
Group now has a stake in numerous multinationals, including a
3.6 percent share of Credit Suisse. Controlled by the four children
of the founder.

4. Mohammed Al Amoudi ($12billion)
Saudi/Ethiopian with a portfolio of businesses in oil, mining, agriculture,
hotels, hospitals, finance, operations and maintenance. Named the richest
black person in the world by Forbes.

5. Issam Al Zahid ($11.6billion)
The chairman of the Alzahid Group of Companies, a conglomerate with
41,000 employees and stakes in fields such as mining, logistics, oil and
gas, manufacturing, information technology, foodstuffs and retail.

6. The Sawiris Family ($10 billion)
Coptic Egyptian family that controls the Orascom conglomerate, with
interests in telecommunications, construction, real estate, hotel and
development business.

7. The Kharafi Family ($8.5billion)
Another diversified conglomerate, this one of Kuwait origin with 100,000
employees in 25 countries. The holdings include exclusive franchise rights
in the Middle East for a large number of fast food brands such as KFC, TGI
Friday's and Pizza Hut.

8 Joseph Safra $7.5bn Brazil (Lebanon)

9. The Binladin Family ($7.5 billion)
Closely connected with the Saudi Royal family, the Saudi Binladin Group is
considered the largest construction company in the world. Thirteen of the
late founder Mohammed Binladin's sons sit on the board.

10 Said Khoury ($7 billion)
The Palestinian born co-founder of the Consolidated Contractors International
Company (CCC) is also the governor of the Arab Monetary Fund and a large
shareholder in the Arab Palestinian Investment Company. Since its founding,
CCC has built a large number of well-known buildings throughout the world,
including Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison (before Saddam Hussein came to power)
and the Ronald Reagan National Airport in Washington, DC.

1
Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Al Saud
$31.2bn
saudi arabia
2
Mohamed Al Jaber
$12.66bn
uk(saudi arabia)

4
Mohammed Al Amoudi
$12bn
saudi arabia
5
Issam Al Zahid
$11.6bn
saudi arabia
6
The Sawiris Family
$10bn
egypt
7
The Kharafi Family
$8.5bn
kuwait
8
Joseph Safra
$7.5bn Brazil (Lebanon)
9
The Binladin Family
$7.5bn
saudi arabia
10
Said Khoury
$7bn
Palestine
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Zionist Saudi Royal Family Completely Exposed Must Watch

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Published on 16 Jun 2013

Zionist Saudi Royal Family Completely Exposed Must Watch

Cidersomerset

28th July 2014, 20:08

I have no problems with Israels right to exist as sovereign state
history is full of the victors take the spoils.ISIS is doing something
similar in Iraq with non -muslims and other muslim sects, and other
countries have done it.

But considering the Jewish experiances of WW11 , how can they
massacre so many innocent civilians ? This is not the first time
either. Sure they have the right to defend themselves, but there
must be a better way. The UN should keep large forces on the
borders of Gaza and relieve Israel of the burden of persecuting
the Palestinians, thus gaining time to sort out more permanent
arrangements. As Jon Snow says in his report the average age
in Gaza is seventeen. That's a vast pool of potential disgruntled
future freedom fighters if something is not done to stop this
madness.

Luckily Israel has the Iron Dome shield that intercept 90%
of Hamas rockets and mortar fire, thanks to huge US subs'
Which is great and helps saves Israeli lives.

"Iron dome" in action: Rare footage of Hamas missiles being intercepted in Tel Aviv

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Israel/Palestine is a tiny country contributing far to much
hate and evil frequencies. This is why you wonder who
really is behind all this.....

Hamas it is now being reported did not kill the three Israeli
Students and that was just the excuse needed to attack
GAZA blaming it on Hamas, even though they knew it
was a rogue cell that did the murders of the students...

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Some articles from Davids site today......

Hamas not complicit in teens’ kidnap: Israeli police

Monday 28th July 2014 at 07:58 By david-icke

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‘The Israeli Police Foreign Press Spokesman, Micky Rosenfeld, appears to have falsified the
Israeli government’s claim that Hamas was responsible for the killing of three Israeli settler
teens in June, by saying responsibility lies with a lone cell that operated without the
complicity of Hamas’ leadership.

The kidnapping and subsequent killing of three Israeli settler teens last month is considered
to be a flashpoint for the escalated violence in Gaza — that as of day 19 of the conflict has
left 926 Palestinians, mostly civilians, dead.

At the time Israeli authorities placed the blame squarely on Hamas, with Israeli Prime Minister
Benyamin Netanyahu saying “They were kidnapped and murdered in cold blood by animals in
human form. Hamas is responsible and Hamas will pay.”‘

Read more: Hamas not complicit in teens’ kidnap: Israeli police

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Jul-26/265229-hamas-not-complicit-in-teens-kidnap-israeli-police.ashx#axzz38kAlsCPK

There is a massive propaganda programme that has been going on for years....

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Israel’s ‘Operation Protective Edge’–Barbaric human sacrifice taking place in Gaza’s real-life Apocalypto

Monday 28th July 2014 at 08:06 By david-icke

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‘And while it is true that many of the ‘enlightened’ countries of the West such as America,
Great Britain and others who worship at the altar of money, power and empire and who
therefore engage in this modern-day form of human sacrifice known as serial warfare in
appeasing these dark gods, there is one country in particular whose involvement in the
grisly, gory business of human sacrifice operates on a very different, personal, primal,
and primitive level, and that country of course is Israel.

Whereas the aforementioned countries deal in death not necessarily for death’s sake but
rather as an unavoidable consequence of attaining the blessings that the aforementioned
gods of money and power bring, when it comes to Israel however, the shedding of
blood–innocent, defenseless blood–holds particular ‘sentimental’ significance.

More personal than just business, when it comes to the trappings, teachings and traditions
of Judaism, blood is as intrinsic to its identity as bread and wine are within some Christian
ceremonies. It is, after all, that ‘old time religion’ that functions as the beating heart of the
Jewish state and which sustains and maintains who it is, what it is, what it does, and how it lives.’

The notion that Israel, again, THE JEWISH STATE, as her worshippers insist upon her being
characterized, would engage in the business of ritualistic human sacrifice should come as no
surprise to anyone who understands the ‘beating heart’ of what keeps her alive, meaning
Judaism. Human sacrifice, i.e. murdering innocent human beings in order to appease the
demands of some ‘higher’ power, is a theme introduced within literally the first chapters of
the very first book of the Jewish Torah–the book of Genesis to be exact–where a penniless
nomad named Abraham–the ‘Founding Father’ of the Jewish state as the world has been
told time and again–has got it in his head to slit the throat of his own son Isaac and burn
his young son’s body on a pile of stones in pleasing and appeasing the Jewish god Yahweh.

Luckily for Isaac, as the story goes, the voices in Abraham’s head telling him to engage in
the very same kind of brutal black Mass depicted in Apocalypto were drowned out by competing
voices telling him not to murder his son, but rather to sacrifice a nearby ram whose horns had
been caught in a briar and who could not escape to save its life.

The story–whether historically true or not, is immaterial to the fact that in the minds of those
whose identity is wrapped up in Israel, Judaism, Zionism, etc, a pattern and a paradigm have
been set through this legend–That killing innocent, defenseless creatures that can neither
escape nor fight back is the manner by which the Jewish god is appeased and satiated…

Using this–the slaughter and incineration of a ram–as the standard then, from there the
Judaic practice of killing docile, defenseless creatures for the purpose of quelling and
containing the anger of Yahweh, the Judaic god, isn’t just institutionalized, but becomes
the institution itself. Whether it is for atonement of sins, giving thanks or whatever the
mood of the occasion happens to be at that moment, the slaughter of living creatures
becomes THE method of connecting with and ‘getting right’ with ‘the god of Israel’
(a term publically used many times by Jewish terrorists ranging from Menachem
Begin to Netanyahu) as explained numerous times in the books of Leviticus, Deuteronomy,
Numbers and others found in the Torah. Specifically, as the ritual dictates, by laying hands
on the head of the animal to be killed, the sins of the people of Israel are transferred onto
the animal, and upon its brutal slaughter, the sins are wiped away and Yahweh is appeased, to wit–

‘The priest is to place his hand on the head of the sin offering and slaughter it…Then the
priest is to take some of the blood with his finger and put it on the horns of the altar and
pour out the rest of the blood at the base of the altar…They shall remove all the fat and
the priest shall then burn the bull, ram, or goat on the altar as an aroma pleasing to the
Lord, and in this way the priest will make atonement for the people of Israel, and their
sins will be forgiven…’

Paired almost simultaneously with the ritualistic practice of animal slaughter as the
centerpiece of Judaic worship come the various decrees from Yahweh’s mouth to Israel’s
ear that he–the angry, jealous, vengeful god who has chosen this small, seemingly
insignificant tribe of ne’er do wells to someday run the world–is no longer satiated
with only the slaughter of defenseless animals. Now, having developed a more
‘sophisticated’ sacrificial appetite, he demands that defenseless men, women and
children must suffer the same fate as well, specifically as laid out within several
passages of the Jewish Torah to wit–

‘When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are to possess and casts out the
many peoples living there, you shall then slaughter them all and utterly destroy them…
You shall save nothing alive that breathes…You shall make no agreements with them nor
show them any mercy…You shall destroy their altars, break down their images, cut down
their groves and burn their graven images with fire. For you are a holy people unto the
LORD thy God and He has chosen you to be a special people above all others upon the
face of the earth…’

And there begins a wedding made in hell, where ritualistic, religiously-driven animal
slaughter is paired with war, genocide, invasion and conquest.

Given the inherently supremacist foundation of Judaic thought (‘God’s chosen people’,
‘light unto the world,’ etc) paired with its inherently anti-Gentile disposition, it was just
a matter of time then before the two ideas become merged into one–the equating of
Gentiles as animals who were fit for nothing but either enslavement or ritual slaughter,
and the likely catalyst for this merger was the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem
in 70 A.D. by the Romans, resulting in the cessation of the Judaic practice of sacrificial
slaughter of livestock for attaining atonement from the Judaic god.

A substitution had to be found therefore if the Judaic community were to maintain
any sense of religious/social cohesiveness…

The fact that Gentiles are referred to disparagingly amongst Jews as ‘Goy’ or
‘Goyim’–the Hebrew equivalent of the word ‘livestock’ or ‘cattle’–is one indication
that this association between non-Jews and livestock (rams, goats, sheep, etc) used
for ritualistic sacrifice has been a fait accompli now for some time. As Israel sinks
deeper and deeper into her Judaism and her ‘Jewishness’, and the more powerful
that the Jewish community becomes, therefore the more ‘comfortable’ certain
political and religious leaders become in voicing ideas that before had to be kept
hidden from the Gentile world for the sake of ‘operational security’. Of the various
statements made in recent history, few compare in revealing this mindset than that
made by Israel’s former Chief Sephardic Rabbi Ovadiah Yusef who stated to wit–

‘Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world,
only to serve the People of Israel…Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they
will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat…With gentiles, it will be
like any person: They need to die, but God will give them longevity. Why? Imagine
that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money. This is his servant. That’s why
he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew…’

The reaction on the part of the more ‘cautious’ elements within organized Jewish
circles, from the ADL to World Jewish Congress et al was predictable in its utter
duplicity, and unfortunately, swallowed whole hog by the Gentile community. One
by one, powerful Jewish groups and those who lead them lined up to denounce the
Rabbi’s statement despite knowing full well that it reflected the essence of Judaism
and that it forms the foundation of Zionist thinking not only in Israel, but around
the world. Sadly, the Gentiles, not yet comprehending the inherently deceptive
nature of Judaic linguistics and theatrics, believed it, much to their own detriment.

But more effective in revealing the kinds of genocidal tendencies that have come
to plague the Judaic mind than the various statements from Jewish leaders–religious
and political–are the actions of Israel itself. Whereas the various statements
attributed to individuals such as Ovadia Yusef and others can be compared to
the distant howling of wolves announcing their impending arrival, it is the ensuing
slaughter and carnage that best reveals the nature of the beast within.

That the present Holocaust in Gaza is in effect an exercise in ritualized Jewish mass
murder and human sacrifice cannot be disputed by any rational human being. The
deliberate targeting of civilians, the murder of women and children as if the entire
exercise were nothing more than shooting fish in a barrel cannot be equated with
any kind of protective or preventive military operation on the part of a stable, sane
nation state. Operation ‘Defensive Edge’–like all its previous massacres–Jenin, Cast
Lead, etc, etc, etc, is the modern day equivalent of the very same ritual sacrifice
institutionalized within the pages of the Torah and the same human sacrifice depicted
within Apocalypto and for the same reasons–Israel, a nation whose foundation is
rooted in religious strains that demand the blood of innocent, defenseless animals
who cannot escape, the exact situation as pertains to the people of Gaza today.
It is their blood, the Palestinians of Gaza and elsewhere–warm, wet, sticky–that
acts as the glue holding together the nation of mentally ill, religious, racist
nutcases known as Israel.

Indeed, as we read the words of the high priest in Apocalypto as he is about to
plunge the knife into the chest of his captive victim, they might as well be the
words of Benjamin Netanyahu or any of those within his circles–

‘We are a people of destiny…destined to be the masters of all time, destined to
be nearest to the gods…’

‘Great Kulkulkan, whose fury could scourge the earth to oblivion, let us appease
you with this sacrifice…to exalt you in your glory and make our people prosper…’

And, as in Apocalypto, when the citizens of the Mayan superstate roared with
approval as the beating heart of the victim was cut out and the head chopped
off, so too do we hear the roar of Jewry worldwide as the innocent victims of
Gaza are ceremonially murdered on the high altar of Judaic human sacrifice.
Israeli citizens gather at the border with food, drinks and other celebratory
supplies, snapping pics of the carnage in celebrating Gentile slaughter and in
worshipping the Judaic version of the Mayan god Kukulkan.

Not that anyone should be particularly surprised or shocked at this, since Jews
worldwide have gathered together in much the same way to celebrate past
instances of Gentile mass murder in religious ‘Holy Days’ such as Passover,
Purim, Hannakuh and others.

Where the difference lies however between the Mayan superstate and today’s
version of it–Israel–is that the Mayans did not have nuclear weapons with
which to burn down the entire world in one giant human sacrifice. Let all hope
and pray that the rest of the Gentile world–and particularly those with the
military resources to do it–recognize that indeed this is what is in store for
mankind if the beast depicted within both the storyline of Apocalypto and
within the pages of the final book of the Christian New Testament–The
Apocalypse–is not destroyed, for if not, as Jesus Christ Himself predicted,
‘no flesh would survive’.

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Despite the truly horrifying nature of the theme covered in Mel Gibson’s
2006 blockbuster film Apocalypto–namely the manner by which innocent,
defenseless people are hunted down, captured and later used as human
sacrifices in appeasing the Mayan god Kukulkan , nevertheless what made
the film’s bloody theme and presentation sufferable was the (mistaken)
notion that it was a thing of the past and not of the present…

‘Indeed,’ so the prevailing wisdom goes…‘we’re waaaay past that…old
hat…yesteryear…passe’…water under the bridge and over the dam…’

The problem with this assessment of course is that it’s as disconnected
from reality as the notion that the earth is flat or that babies arrive from
heaven via some delivery service known as Stork Express. Despite not
being recognized as such per se, nevertheless human sacrifice is alive
and well, kicking and screaming in fact–no pun intended–moreso now
than at any other time in human history.

And not just the practice itself, but the reasons for doing so as well.
Now–as then–it involves primitive peoples–barely-humanoid in many
respects–who’ve worked out a business arrangement with some
bad-tempered deity whereby ripping to pieces innocent people results
in rivers of good fortune flowing in their direction, again, no pun
intended…In short time, as the affair becomes ritualistic, ceremonialized
and then institutionalized, it gains ‘official’ status when priests, prophets
and princes participate, at which point the gory business of Murder, Inc
becomes as much a national pastime as feeding people to lions was
to ancient Rome.

Indeed, as dramatized in Apocalypto, the ritual was not some ‘private
matter’ simply between the victim, victimizer and the god who demanded
the blood sacrifice. Rather, it was an open, public event, the beating
heart of the metropolis in fact, complete with gawkers, watchers,
onlookers and ‘true believers’ who cheered madly as hearts were
cut out and heads chopped off.

The only difference between then and now is that today’s human sacrifice
is sexier and sanitized, helped along of course with technology making it
all seem more like an episode of Star Wars rather than a scene out of
Apocalypto. Instead of barely-clad, bone-in-nose, unwashed warriors
running barefoot through the jungle chasing some terrified 2-legged c
reature scheduled to be the main course at a dinner honoring the Mayan
god Kukulkan, we have technicians dressed in the respectable clothing
of military uniforms, sitting behind computer screens, lattes in one hand
while in the other is a joystick attached to a drone that is flown into
3rd-world locales where women and children endure not just having their
hearts cut out, but their entire bodies ripped to shreds via high-yield
explosive warheads.

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‘Only stones remain’: Gaza lies in ruins

Monday 28th July 2014 at 07:43 By david-icke

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‘Umm Ahmed Abu Sahwish holds stones in her hands. They are now all that’s left of her
demolished home. “My home is gone and only stones remain,” the 65-year-old says.

Hundreds of homes here have been destroyed, and unexploded Israeli missiles litter the
ground at the entrance to the town, at Gaza’s northern tip near the border with Israel.
The local hospital, emergency rescue equipment, and infrastructure have also incurred
heavy damage from Israeli shelling.

Another woman, from a family of 20 people, cries as she tries to dig through the
rubble of her house.’

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You would of thought of all people the Israelites know what happens to Goliath.....

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Jon Snow’s return from Gaza, Palestine July 2014

Monday 28th July 2014 at 07:46 By david-icke

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