Galactic federation of stellar nations a lie?

[pyriel]

Was very recently a thread title, "Visit the Galactic Federation of Stellar Nations"
shttp://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67153-Visit-the-Galactic-Federation-of-Stellar-Nations

Here is a website that gives the different names used.
http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/11/visit-galactic-confederation-of-stellar.html

This is another website with basically the same thing as the above link.
http://lightworkers.org/node/191979

Now with the whole lightworker thing i would say this is something for people to read.
http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/

I do know there is a thread about Cameron Day and I believe the title was something like "why i am no longer a light worker" also. I could be wrong tho.

The above link is to cameron day website, ascensionhelp.com as it shows in the above link.

As i said in the thread at the start of this post, i would look into it and see how long it's been around.... Well it's been around for a long time and avalon has had many threads about the galactic federation of light.

Sorry but new skin on an old thing with a new twist in it's message. People on this planet dont know what galactic races are allies or enemies to begin with. So to fall for this so easily is very sad to see happen.

If you still think you have ascended masters that this monster has preached in the past then by all means worship it if it makes you happy. Sorry but looks like the false light strikes again.

If mods want to merge this with the other thread, go for it. I figure in light of this info. i would make a new thread for it.

[gnostic9]

Was very recently a thread title, "Visit the Galactic Federation of Stellar Nations"
shttp://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67153-Visit-the-Galactic-Federation-of-Stellar-Nations

Here is a website that gives the different names used.
http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/11/visit-galactic-confederation-of-stellar.html

This is another website with basically the same thing as the above link.
http://lightworkers.org/node/191979

Now with the whole lightworker thing i would say this is something for people to read.
http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/

I do know there is a thread about Cameron Day and I believe the title was something like "why i am no longer a light worker" also. I could be wrong tho.

The above link is to cameron day website, ascensionhelp.com as it shows in the above link.

As i said in the thread at the start of this post, i would look into it and see how long it's been around.... Well it's been around for a long time and avalon has had many threads about the galactic federation of light.

Sorry but new skin on an old thing with a new twist in it's message. People on this planet dont know what galactic races are allies or enemies to begin with. So to fall for this so easily is very sad to see happen.

If you still think you have ascended masters that this monster has preached in the past then by all means worship it if it makes you happy. Sorry but looks like the false light strikes again.

If mods want to merge this with the other thread, go for it. I figure in light of this info. i would make a new thread for it.

Hello pyriel! I feel that the demiurge is definitley there, and part of the process. How do we transcend this? Great stuff!!!!!!!!!!!

[pyriel]

Was very recently a thread title, "Visit the Galactic Federation of Stellar Nations"
shttp://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67153-Visit-the-Galactic-Federation-of-Stellar-Nations

Here is a website that gives the different names used.
http://americankabuki.blogspot.com/2013/11/visit-galactic-confederation-of-stellar.html

This is another website with basically the same thing as the above link.
http://lightworkers.org/node/191979

Now with the whole lightworker thing i would say this is something for people to read.
http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/

I do know there is a thread about Cameron Day and I believe the title was something like "why i am no longer a light worker" also. I could be wrong tho.

The above link is to cameron day website, ascensionhelp.com as it shows in the above link.

As i said in the thread at the start of this post, i would look into it and see how long it's been around.... Well it's been around for a long time and avalon has had many threads about the galactic federation of light.

Sorry but new skin on an old thing with a new twist in it's message. People on this planet dont know what galactic races are allies or enemies to begin with. So to fall for this so easily is very sad to see happen.

If you still think you have ascended masters that this monster has preached in the past then by all means worship it if it makes you happy. Sorry but looks like the false light strikes again.

If mods want to merge this with the other thread, go for it. I figure in light of this info. i would make a new thread for it.

Hello pyriel! I feel that the demiurge is definitley there, and part of the process. How do we transcend this? Great stuff!!!!!!!!!!!

The demiurge.... a creation by a flawed wannabe god, born from the goddess, that will create fear and false light along with even fake love, to get the energy from the people to continue to power it's lies and the karma cycle to get beings to regret they're life by bringing up all the stuff they did in the life they just left and wanting to return to do it right which is just more energy for demons and false angels/ascended masters to feed off of and return it to the demiurge construct and it's false god but yet a god cause of what was created, tho flawed cause it's creator is also flawed,but is not the true god, the unknown father. Do you know what it was that was created?

I have heard also that it's a demented alien more or less and the gnostics long ago told the people what it was they were worshiping.(the jews more or less, isrealites). Something like that anyways. With the forum name "GNOSTIC"9, i'm sure you know about gnostics.

There are different stories of the demiurge which of course makes it hard to know what is true and what is a lie. Sounds like alot of things in this world doesnt it?

Whispers of power and great rewards and maybe even great knowledge to those that'll help do what it wants so it is fed. Sounds like some people and even families that most of us should know by now.

Destroying it or at least removing it from this world would be a massive feat indeed. Can you see the answer and how near impossible it would be, given what alot of people are like now?

Learn about the demiurge but take it with caution. As I said, there are different stories about the demiurge and therefore, there will be truths and lies.

How things can be rewritten and changed over the centuries........

[cuitlahuac]

There is a Galactic Federation that has been discovered in sessions of memory retrieval, either by hypnotic methods and mainly by non-hypnotic memory retrieval methods. This seems to be a real Galactic Federation existing in the center of this galaxy and ruling on this galaxy. On the other hand, there is a "Galactic Federation of Light" that is the creation of channelers and as such must be the result of mind control and disinformation for the people.

[pyriel]

There is a Galactic Federation that has been discovered in sessions of memory retrieval, either by hypnotic methods and mainly by non-hypnotic memory retrieval methods. This seems to be a real Galactic Federation existing in the center of this galaxy and ruling on this galaxy. On the other hand, there is a "Galactic Federation of Light" that is the creation of channelers and as such must be the result of mind control and disinformation for the people.

I dont doubt that there is some type of alliance between several races. I have read that the very center of all galaxies is the home of what some call Aeons and that it's basically a place of creation of different DNA and is send out to seed any planet that fits it's needs for it to grow and evolve.

I've also read that the human DNA we have now is from there and 1 of the Aeons that helped was so involved that she somehow was able to leave and that she eventually became the earth we live on now.. This is the goddess and of course known as Mother Earth, Mother Nature, Gaia, Sophia and probably a few other names I'm not aware of at the moment. These Aeons supposedly can not leave the center of the galaxy they're in but in this one instant, it happened. She wondered and as said, became Earth.

There are different views/stories that deal with the center of the galaxy or even galaxies.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

So can someone bring me up to speed , whats wrong with the Galactic Federation of Lights ? or the human reportage and interpretations of them ?

N

[dim]

It's the whole squeaky clean-vibrant colors-cheesy spiritual slogans, love and light 4d universe crowd parade,
tries its very best to send back to line the newly awakened soul, don't worry about it, it doesn't last long,
the fire that burns in the heart for truth will incinerate every lie on the road.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

maybe im weird but i dont see anything wrong with painting a beautiful picture ... or an aspirational ideal.

Is it because some people dont like the enormity of it ? Or that its cheesy ? or both ?

Personally , when im in the mood ill look at these videos and be inspired .. I mean what i see may not happen in my life time down here but i know in one of them ill get so be a part of such things.

I suppose it all hinges on interpretations of now and then.

N

[seehas]

well there are several different "channeled" informants that claim to speak from the "galactic fed.." as with all channeled informations never judge who is speaking always judge the information you get.

you can't find out if the information is a lie but you can find out if you resonate with that message, and in this time its important to find out how to listen to yourself no one on this planet can tell you if its a lie or not, but you know it yourself already deep within.

edit:

3 examples of channeled information:

1.) the time is near we are almost at a critical point to evacuate light workers from planet earth and destroy the evil khabal.


2.) you do great just spread love and light and everything will be good till the end of this year you are the shift within.


3.) we love you, we watch you but we can't help, you put yourself in that trouble and you have to get your ass out of that trouble. no one will do it for you only you can do it.


since I'm reading version 1+2 now for like 15 years i tend to be more a version 3 believer :hippie::biggrin1:

[cuitlahuac]

The problem with the Galactic Federation of Light, is that it sends messages through channeling. Channeling has been linked to mind control by Grays or Reptilians. There are examples in the research of Dr. Karla Turner about Reptilians faking being light beings mind controlling humans. There is a very good research by Truman L. Cash regarding channeling being linked to unfriendly ETs. Besides, the channeled messages of the Galactic Federation of Light have incurred in false information regarding things that are going to happen that do not happen. I recommend reading Dr. Karla Turner books as well as Truman Cash Books. See his thread here at: Matrix Revealed, analysis and solutions.


Nanoo Nanoo
So can someone bring me up to speed , whats wrong with the Galactic Federation of Lights ? or the human reportage and interpretations of them ?

[Nanoo Nanoo]

Re: Galactic federation of stellar nations a lie?



The problem with the Galactic Federation of Light, is that it sends messages through channeling. Channeling has been linked to mind control by Grays or Reptilians. There are examples in the research of Dr. Karla Turner about Reptilians faking being light beings mind controlling humans. There is a very good research by Truman L. Cash regarding channeling being linked to unfriendly ETs. Besides, the channeled messages of the Galactic Federation of Light have incurred in false information regarding things that are going to happen that do not happen. I recommend reading Dr. Karla Turner books as well as Truman Cash Books. See his thread here at: Matrix Revealed, analysis and solutions.




Nanoo Nanoo
So can someone bring me up to speed , whats wrong with the Galactic Federation of Lights ? or the human reportage and interpretations of them ?




Thanks for the explanation, so the problem is that someone has made a claim that the messages ( which are mostly all positive ) are sent by grey aliens who are mind controlling us ? with positive imagery ? is that the gist of it ?

So our governments generally give us negative imagery to digest and the greys give us positive imagery to digest ... and what does that all mean ? does it make anybodys mind controlled any more than watching a soap opera ?

this is all assuming that the person pointing the finger at the aliens that are grey are actually doing this in the first place.. does that sound a bit far fetched ?

So where is the interview with the grey alien admitting or alluding to this ?

Naniu

[alh02]

Well, I really have no idea if these messages originate from greys, reptilians, nordics, human/alien-engineered AI, CIA/NSA psy-ops, or whatever... but to be honest I really don't it matters that much either way.

What I do know, however, is these messages have been doing the rounds for MANY years now. And you know what?... not ONE of the NUMEROUS promises/predictions that have been made in ANY of those messages have EVER actually come to fruition.

... not one!

2012 mass ascension, cataclysmic earth changes, GFL fleets/armadas de-cloaking over major cities, worldwide ET Disclosure, TPTB being arrested/imprisoned, DUMBS being destroyed, NASARA global settlement funds being released to the masses, free energy devices being released to the masses, joy rides on GFL starships... the list goes on and on and on and on.

So, if listening to/reading messages of false hope, mixed with illogical/irrational fallacy, pseudo-scientific half-truth, full blown deception/lies, misinformation, and disinformation is "your thing"... then I guess that's something you will at some point in your life have to deal with.

Personally, I would have thought that anyone with even the slightest amount of intuitive intelligence and discernment would be able to see VERY CLEARLY that these messages have very little intrinsic worth/value in them... if any at all.

At best, all anyone is ever going to derive from such messages is a fleeting, but very INTENTIONAL, emotionally-induced "high"... similar in many ways to that which is experienced by drug addicts when they get their "fix".

But the problem, is that the "high", never lasts long... does it.

So eventually REALITY begins to kick back in, and the message reader/listener once again finds themselves right back where they started... looking for the next fix to temporarily make them feel good/better... same as any other addict who seeks to ESCAPE from their personal (ly created) reality instead of taking ownership and being responible/acountable for it.

It's all about creating false realities... and ESCAPISM.

The fact that the "drug" in this instance happens to be these messages that instil false hope and a momentary sense of blissful contentedness, as opposed to heroin, cocaine, alcohol, or a cigarette which effectively do the same thing, really makes no difference... ultimately it's the exact same principle at work.

Just like the above-mentioned drugs, all these messages really lead to is DISTRACTION from reality and what's REALLY important on the individual level... ie doing the kind of PRODUCTIVE internal work that induces a TRUE and PROLONGED sense of calm, peace, happiness, joy, contentedness, self worth/appreciation, self empowerment etc.

And then there's APATHY... no need to do anything REAL... now... because soon I'll be "up there" with my "star brothers" and "ET family", traversing the cosmos in a federation approved light ship, indoctrinating the rest of the galaxy into my wonderful FALSE love/light/bliss program/construct... no need to do anything now... I've just gotta sit tight and wait... yeah... any day now they're going to come for me... I know it... I just know it... soon... very soon.

Anyway, if people want to feed their minds (and emotional bodies) with ridiculous notions of playing Starship Trooper/Startrek Enterprise with their off-world counterparts rather than focusing on what's happening in the moment, down here on Earth, where they actually have the ability/opportunity to DO SOMETHING REAL, right here and now to create a better reality for themselves and the rest of this planet... then that's their free will choice/right and I guess there's not much I can do to stop them.

On the other hand though, I suppose there's nothing stopping me from making it abundantly clear that they're ultimately achieving nothing more than wasting time/energy on fantasies and illusion/delusion... when the opportunity presents itself :)

[GloriousPoetry]

Nanoo Nanoo,

The best information I have ecountered regarding the Galactic Federation of Lights and its false lights is through the work of George Kavassilas he is on youtube and I recommend reading his book Our Universal Journey...

[Nanoo Nanoo]

I can see your points alh02. I dont really think there is much difference between watching this and any other fictional fantasy. All things can have advantages and disadvantages depending on the observer. I think where i agree with you is the age old program of " waiting for our saviour " has really done damage to many and its super imposed over pretty much any promise of hope.

In he greater scheme of things though , Hope is important to have as it is an inspirational tool. Its also part of our evolution to work out how to use inspiration. Eventually we will see its better to put faith in the self inspired by inspiration and taking action towards a goal , rather than sitting around waiting for the mother ship to take you away.

Deeper into this however there is a space where the truly Pollyannistic of us achieve near impossible results in the world. There is a code in the subtle body that opens doors when one is infinitely optomistic.. this can work even for the foolish at times by fluke ... but someone with studious resolve of the subtle body and its machinations together with an pollyannistic nature can achieve miracles and do un explained things. Perhaps this is not the purpose of being down here but if the words of Dolores Cannon are true she states one of our purposes down here is to learn how to manipulate energy. I resonate with that myself and find this study completely fascinating.

Getting back to the whole promises of 2012 etc .. i would tuly hope you consider that how you percieved those events and outcomes are considerably different to other individuals. I know in reading a myriad of experiences on here and other places that many weird and wonderful things happened during this time. I know my own experiences qualify this phenomena. So what made these things happen ? was it the belief in the hype ? Was it that those things were actually happening by definition of a few who understaood it and most of us didnt get it ? Or was it a load of hog wash ?

Regardless of these possibilities , things did happen to many , knowings were translated , even chanelled ! that seemed true... i do not chanel however i had one such event i can tell you was as reas as im sttting here typing this post. I agree some have taken liberties with this sort of thing. I also agree with the works of George Ksavallis are perhaps eggsagerated. I know this because i gave it a shot without colouring the information with skeptacism , i did not invest too much stock in it till it naturally qualified its self to me and in that process i found the fatal flaw and gently disguarded its importance, but nobody can say George was not interesting .. he was truly interesting indeed and even thos i have an inkling its not all its cracked up to be i still learned things from him superflous to what i thought i was investigating.. In the end , i gained .

Im not an advocate for fiction that misleads , but i am an advocate for people to learn how to translate and absorb information freely without skepticism. There is a way and it takes practice. There are alwasy little jewels in every thing we see... not squinting , not wide eyed , but piercing. Im sure you get what i mean.

Purpose in the eye of the beholder makes all the diference.

Love and hugs

Naniu

[blufire]

This thread title simply asks . . . . . .

Galactic federation of stellar nations a lie?

I will simply reply . . . .

Yes

[cuitlahuac]

There is a problem. The Galactic Federation of Stellar Nations might mean the apparently real "Galactic Federation" managing this galaxy. But the name might also mean the "Galactic Federation of Light" and other "Galactic Federations" that seem to have particular and hidden agendas. The title is ambiguous.

My response would be: The Galactic Federation managing this galaxy seems to be very real. They have a policy of no intervention in primitive prison planets like this one.

The Galactic Federation of Light is apparently the creation of unfriendly ETs to manipulate humans.

Other Galactic Federations seem to have unknown agendas.



This thread title simply asks . . . . . .

Galactic federation of stellar nations a lie?

I will simply reply . . . .

Yes

[AlaBil]

Nanoo Nanoo,

The best information I have ecountered regarding the Galactic Federation of Lights and its false lights is through the work of George Kavassilas he is on youtube and I recommend reading his book Our Universal Journey...

I downloaded George's book and have just read the first 25%. To say that this requires full use of your thinking ability is an understatement, but I sincerely thank you for bringing it to my attention. It is, so far, a very straight forward presentation. I am eager to finish it.

[Nanoo Nanoo]

The Galactic Federation could be a mis noma ... we dont really know. When i encountered things of this nature i decided to call them the OEA ( outside earth alliance ) they never told me this name, it just seemed appropriate to describe them as this, and Outside Earth Alliance .. it seemed to me with the varyants of creatures and beings inside this " crew " would be an alliance of different cultures existing on several planes. Some in solid form and others in holographic form or they are both mutually capable because of their technology. I mean i interpret their capabilities with my limited knowledge, so forgive my reportage..its not 100% accurate im sure.

So i would argue that there is most definitely some sort of group that is concerned with us and our future , more importantly concerned with the survival of our planet.

Imagining that there is such an alliance is completely plausible as an idea and with a lack of confirmation on their part its also plausible they have their reasons. I can completely see why they would want to do this slow disclosiure as ideas first. They gauge its reactions.

N

[cuitlahuac]

There seems to be a disinformation campaign against an apparently real entity called the Galactic Confederacy on this galaxy. The disinformation is by means of the fake Galactic Federation of Light or Galactic Federations that channel their messages to people on Earth. So let's see what is known about the apparently real Galactic Confederacy:

This is said to be its logo:

http://www.forbiddensymbols.com/wp-content/uploads/Sea_Org_logo-300x330.png

27 stars and the central star is the capital located in the central part of the Milky Way.

If you want to know what kind of administration or management that Confederacy has, you just have to read L. Ronald Hubbard's description of his administrative/management technology, because he says the scientology management/administration is taken from that Confederacy. This is contained mainly in the descriptions of the Scientology Organization Board writings and tapes.

[cuitlahuac]

Apparently the method of this Galactic Confederacy to evolve planets is to send missions to them, like Buddha did in India, and do not resort to "channeling" sending just "be good and wait to be abducted" messages.

[SKAWF]

stop buying into this c**p people.

i cant believe that to this day there are still some desperatly clinging onto the idea of ascention, and galactic federations,
and will clutch at any possible straw to enable them to believe that its true.

someone earlier in this thread said that they couldnt see the harm in it......

people have taken the concept on board as though it were a solution to the problems that the world currently has.
even with 2012 they were going on like they didnt have to actually DO anything, because on december the 21st they were going to ascend into a 5D reality.

it got to the stage where people here were creating threads asking whether others had chose their ascention outfit!

same with the galactic federations and its variants.

the lunacy is probably best illustrated thus..

exchange 'galactic federation', for 'my little pony' and then relflect on how foolish it is to believe that my little pony offers a way to ascend,
or a credible solution to our problems. really believe in it. change the name to 'the federation of little ponies' if you like.

can you not see how investing your time and energy in it is a complete waste of your resources?

meanwhile what are you ACTUALLY doing to solve the problems we have, or to ACTUALLY get yourself back onto a path of greater understanding?

its escapism. the world is 'currently' controlled by dark forces so you focus on the opposite, only its not real.

snap out of it please. otherwise we're all f***ed.

cheers