No Surprise.....Lord Stevens admits police have been 'fiddling' crime figures for years

[Cidersomerset]

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Lord Stevens admits police have been 'fiddling' crime figures for years

One of Britain's most prominent policing figures, Lord Stevens, tells MPs there must be
an urgent inquiry into the way police massage crime data

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Lord Stevens was Metropolitan Police Commissioner from 2000 to 2005

A former Scotland Yard commissioner has admitted the police regularly fiddle crime figures.

Lord Stevens of Kirkwhelpington, who ran the Metropolitan Police for six years, said
officers on the ground had warned him that massaging of crime statistics is the “biggest
scandal coming our way”.


He called for an urgent investigation into the way every force in Britain records crime
figures. Giving evidence to the Commons' home affairs select committee, Lord Stevens
said: “Ever since I’ve been in police service there has been a fiddling of figures. I
remember being a detective constable where we used to write off crimes.”


Asked by Keith Vaz MP, the committee chairman, if it was still going on, Lord Stevens
replied: “Of course it is. In certain forces.

“I was in a session with police sergeants nine months to a year ago in Cheshire talking
about what their feelings were about the police service.

“All of them said the biggest scandal that is coming our way is recording of crime.”

Lord Stevens added: “I think every single force should be subject to an independent
investigation - a focused, lasered investigation into crime figures - both detection and
recording of crime.

“That should happen as a matterof urgency.”

Lord Stevens’ comments set the scene for a potentially bruising encounter between the
current Met Commissioner, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, and another committee of MPs on
Wednesday morning.

Sir Bernard will appear before the Public Administration select committee which has
previously heard evidence from the Commissioner’s own officers that crime figures are
regularly massaged and crimes incorrectly recorded in order to meet performance
targets.

Last November the same committee was told by serving and retired officers that official
crime figures are skewed by the police - often at the instruction of senior officers - to
make their performance appear far better than it is in reality.

Techniques included downgrading offences to less serious crimes or persuading victims
not to make a complaint, while in some cases crimes were only recorded if they were
solved. Other incidents were kept completely off the books if an offender could not be
traced, the committee heard.

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[Carmody]

I'm willing to bet that a notable amount of the written down 'crimes' involved friends, fellow officers, their families and connections...and anyone who signed to them that they were a Freemason, and anyone connected to said Freemasons.

It is said that in the western world, one out of every six law officials, ie cops, is a Freemason. As one goes up the hierarchy, the cronyism that is inevitably enacted due to freemasonry - only gets more concentrated and worse.

One can suffer severe attacks, for stating this simple truth about the uncontrolled and uncurtailed aspects of Freemasonry. That they definitely do not have their house in order.

To add some fairness to this, so that one does not go around looking for 'Freemasons' who are everywhere....that secret societies exist everywhere and in just about everything humans are involved in- and I'm not sure that any of them are immune to cronyism.

So, if one wonders why they might find themselves with, for example, massive amounts of pedophilia,and associated crimes being so widespread,and deep into the top areas of government, private industry, media,and the more rarefied areas of human systems (banking, etc), well, you've got secret societies and hidden connections that are running things.

There are other groups besides Freemasons... and the Freemason group is, as you can see from the numbers, more than large enough to contain an even more rarefied and secretive grouping.

The problem for the relatively well minded Freemasons (which there are a lot of), is that their modes operation and conduct of protecting brothers and whatnot, are the perfect cover for a more insidious group -which could hide within their ranks and systems of hidden hierarchy. Ultimately, no matter how the lower ranks may feel about their system of brothers, it is a system of concentrated power, that is inevitably, over time, been twisted into being oligarchical. Some say it started that way, as a method of capturing the good minded folks who might want to be involved in doing 'good things'.

At the very least, they've had hundreds of years of never cleaning out their ranks or top echelons, so corruption is the inevitable result of the passage of time.

[Carmody]

ye olde pre-time sense, accurate as usual.


Crime gangs used Freemasons to corrupt UK police - report (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11185603)

I guess it was time to bring the subject up again.

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Secret networks of Freemasons have been used by organised crime gangs to corrupt the British criminal justice system, according to a bombshell Metropolitan Police report leaked to The Independent.

Operation Tiberius, written in 2002, found underworld syndicates used their contacts in the controversial brotherhood to "recruit corrupted officers" inside Scotland Yard, and concluded it was one of "the most difficult aspects of organised crime corruption to proof against".

The report - marked "Secret" - found serving officers in East Ham east London who were members of the Freemasons attempted to find out which detectives were suspected of links to organised crime from other police sources who were also members of the society.

Famous for its secret handshakes, Freemasonry has long been suspected of having members who work in the criminal justice system - notably the judiciary and the police.

The political establishment and much of the media often dismiss such ideas as the work of conspiracy theorists. However, Operation Tiberius is the second secret police report revealed by The Independent in the last six months to highlight the possible issue.

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The thing is, it is global, not just the UK.

Almost every place on the planet has this issue.

The US has some particularly nasty groups. But, no one country is excepted in this.

Again, not specifically Freemasons and crime, but the line is very very blurred in the policing and crime realm.

In most prisons in the west you've got Freemasons in the prisons, sometimes on both sides of the bars. It can become an environment of collusion.

Again, there are very good people involved, but some lodges are lodges only in name, that are rife with human trash, who have taken them over, or even began that lodge in that 'mode'. the problem is that there is zero in the way of checks and balances when the given entire town, city, or county district, is almost wholly built on a upper echelon of government, police, fire, scholastic, academic, union, religious members, and so on, ad nausea.. who are all Freemasons, who have meetings together. They will help each other, and it is only inevitable that it will get worse by the inch, over the years.

I suspect that the better minded men involved do not know what to do. Lost inside of a machine that has spun out of control. This sort of organization is like flies to fresh meat for sociopaths, so infiltration by such people is inevitable... and sooner or later, becomes complete.

One cannot pretend that the organize crime connections do not exist within such groupings... as the cronyism will draw the rest into it, inevitably. Like gravity and the sun rising, it happens -and has.

This sort of spotlight will help - one way or another, it will move things along.

[Cidersomerset]

Famous for its secret handshakes, Freemasonry has long been suspected of having members who work in the criminal justice system - notably the judiciary and the police.

The political establishment and much of the media often dismiss such ideas as the work of conspiracy theorists. However, Operation Tiberius is the second secret police report revealed by The Independent in the last six months to highlight the possible issue.

Thanks Carmody a very good point, I just listened to an interview by Bill Binney and Chris Hedges about the Snowden and NSA etc
and although on a bigger scale seemed to connect with these stories from grass roots crime and corruption all thru the establishment
by some people. The question we ask ourselves is it just greedy, humans trying to play the system like 'Banksters' and many others
from the knock off down the pub to bigger criminality or is it linked to higher, corporate manipulation that buy political influence
and power, and the old industrial and Oligarch families that used to run the world openly pre WW1 and WW11. Then you can go
down the rabbit hole and bring in possible entities or very powerfull forces behind the scenes, which many suspect but difficult
to prove especially on the mainstream. That's probably giving the Freemasons to much credit,but you know where I'm coming from...LOL

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Thanks Pete interesting discussion at the start Bill Binney answers the question by
Blaming Ford for not going for Nixon and pardoning him and Obama for not going
after Bush/Cheney. This acknowledges that the buck stops at the top.They do
acknowledge that the security state thru National intelligence agencies, and that
the power elite thru spin and loyal media manipulate the truth to their benefit.
Comparing it to the STAZI is scary but closer to the truth of where we are today.

If you bring in the could war technics , the infiltration of ex NAZIS after WW11,
false flag wars and how 'economic hitmen' and other covert operations that seem to
have been going on since 1945. The bigger picture is different to what the
mainstream will acknowledge. They may print all theses stories and more, but will
not join the dots and spin and present all these actions as part of 'National Security'.
Democracy as we know it is under threat, but not by external forces but from
within as far as I can tell. Homeland security echoes oppressive security states of
the past and we know what happened next.They sum it up at well at the end of pt 1.

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Pt.2 Hedges and Binney on NSA Policy

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Published on 10 Jan 2014

On Reality Asserts Itself with Paul Jay, Chris Hedges and William Binney answer the
question: "What should the NSA policy look like?"


The questioner asks about 7/7 in London and that the bombers were not on the
intelligence radar.This is where it would have been good if they brought up the
possibility that, CIADA and most terrorists are run or allowed to happen.Though
that would bring them to the conspiracy world.Although by definition conspiricies
by mainstream media to what we are told happen daily, as is the same on Capital
hill ,Downing street and all governments to some degree or other.

Like they say oversight committees are a joke as they only seem to act on selected
info on what the agencies tell them and national security even during the cold
war was set up to keep the people under control, more than protecting against
external forces such as the Soviets. All sides these ideologies are being manipulated
from powerful forces from behind the curtain. That is the main conclusion from
alternate media, that a tiny few 'people/entities' control the world and cause most
of the mayhem to happen or let it happen.

On the whole a very good interview.

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[Cidersomerset]

ye olde pre-time sense, accurate as usual.


Crime gangs used Freemasons to corrupt UK police - report

I guess it was time to bring the subject up again.

David posted it as well from the Independent...


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Revealed: How gangs used the Freemasons to corrupt police

Monday 13th January 2014 at 04:32 By David Icke


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‘Secret networks of Freemasons have been used by organised crime gangs to
corrupt the criminal justice system, according to a bombshell Metropolitan Police
report leaked to The Independent.

Operation Tiberius, written in 2002, found underworld syndicates used their
contacts in the controversial brotherhood to “recruit corrupted officers” inside
Scotland Yard, and concluded it was one of “the most difficult aspects of organised
crime corruption to proof against”.

The report – marked “Secret” – found serving officers in East Ham east London who
were members of the Freemasons attempted to find out which detectives were
suspected of links to organised crime from other police sources who were also
members of the society.’

Famous for its secret handshakes, Freemasonry has long been suspected of having
members who work in the criminal justice system – notably the judiciary and the
police.

The political establishment and much of the media often dismiss such ideas as the
work of conspiracy theorists. However, Operation Tiberius is the second secret
police report revealed by The Independent in the last six months to highlight the
possible issue.

Project Riverside, a 2008 report on the rogue private investigations industry by the
Serious Organised Crime Agency, also claimed criminals attempt to corrupt police
officers through Freemason members in a bid to further their interests.

Concerns over the influence of freemasons on the criminal justice system in 1998
led former Home Secretary Jack Straw to order that all police officers and judges
should declare membership of the organisation.

However, ten of Britain’s 43 police forces refused to take part and the policy was
dropped under threat of legal action. In England and Wales, the Grand Master of
the Freemasons is Prince Edward, Duke of Kent. The United Grand Lodge of
England declined to comment last night.

The Independent revealed last week that Operation Tiberius found that organised
crime syndicates such as the Adams family and the gang led by David Hunt were
able to infiltrate the Met “at will”.

Asked to comment on the Tiberius report, a spokesman for Scotland Yard
said: “The Metropolitan Police Service will not tolerate any behaviour by our officers
and staff which could damage the trust placed in police by the public.

“We are determined to pursue corruption in all its forms and with all possible
vigour.”

Read more

Police failed to address Met's ‘endemic corruption’
UK’s key institutions infiltrated by criminals
Case studies: Operation Tiberius uncovers corruption in the Met



Read more: Revealed: How gangs used the Freemasons to corrupt police

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-how-gangs-used-the-freemasons-to-corrupt-police-9054670.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[Cidersomerset]

A lot of these threads are pieces of the bigger Jig saw a couple of articles
from Davids site today illustrates, though a lot of them on there are when
looked at from the alternate view, whether true or not it asks a lot of
questions not pressed home by mainstream...........

The Darkest Secrets of The Shadow Goverment

Monday 13th January 2014 at 04:06 By David Icke


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‘This video is 27 years old, but the revelations it contains are more important now
than ever, because now we can clearly see what did not happen then. This
documentary, “The Secret Government ­ The Constitution in Crisis”, was broadcast
nationwide and seen by millions. This was about treason inside the U.S.
Government while it was taking place in Washington. This was “On T.V.” People
who refuse to believe anything that’s not “On T.V.” now, cannot say that this was a
conspiracy. This was revealed for the whole-world to see! The filth and scrambling
for power throughout government and the country was as blatant as the figures of
greed & raw power above.

‘What Bill Moyers explores is what happened to the would-be-powerful, who, like
the scrambling figures above were supposedly doomed. However, after all the
confessions, crimes, theft, deceit and treason committed during the Reagan years:
Absolutely nothing was done to any of the major participants—because the public
did NOT demand it! America was in stymied-shock. That “condition” is apparently
still in place today, despite the fact that the crimes committed now are a thousand
times worse than what happened in 1987.

No one responsible for any of what was testified to was ever charged. Despite the
documentation and testimony, no one even went to jail! This was and
is “BUSINESS”, and prosecutions would have sent the wrong signal to the Jewish-
owned global-banking-cartels and the plotters of the treasons inside the USA. The
UN and NATO had plans to steal America and kill the Americans, even then! Oh!
And the prosecutions were terminated when Ronnie supposedly got Alzheimer’s and
since elections were coming, no one wanted to own what was done. Congress, the
courts and the White House were all guilty as hell, and these facts could not be
acted on.”

Read more: The Darkest Secrets of The Shadow Goverment


http://www.rense.com/general96/darkests.html

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/

[ulli]

The public must push for and demand to outlaw all secret societies.
I see no other way.
Only fair, given that no single individual can have a private communication any more.

[Cidersomerset]

James Corbett discusses the nature of terrorism and the Saudi/Israeli/US role

Monday 13th January 2014 at 04:00 By David Icke

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Published on 10 Jan 2014


James Corbett and Ryan Dawson interview each other in a conversation
about the Bombings in Russia, the true nature of terrorism, and also their
2 cents on Glen Greenwald's maple syrup like releases of the Snowden documents.

[Cidersomerset]

What we have learn't is that most conspiricies are in fact....

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A twig-mimic caterpillar in the genus Lytrosis

The caterpillar in the photo above is standing on four pro-legs (leg-like stumps with
grippy hooks) that are firmly latched to my white shirt. Its head end is sticking out.
You can see three pairs of tiny legs just behind the head. If you look closely you
can see a thread of silk dangling from the head; it's the caterpillar's belay line. The
strand would normally help support the caterpillar's head end while it leaned away
from a plant stem, allowing it to stay horizontal to the ground in a twiggish attitude.

Looking like a twig helps the caterpillar evade sight-hunting predators. It will
eventually become a small brown bark-camoflaged geometrid moth. I took it off my
shirt and put it on the plant below. Looks like a little piece of fallen wood, doesn't it?

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Nothing to see here. Fallen twig. Move along.

[Carmody]

When this sort of process begins, you have to initiate a motion of watching for the bodies that will inevitably begin to appear...as those highest up in the given echelons will begin the process of purging their weakest links, or those links that can come directly to their door.

That the earlier deaths and their order and trail can be the most critical. Depends. Regardless, some form of that process will be initiated (begun). Most will appear, on the surface, to be accidents.

[Carmody]

The public must push for and demand to outlaw all secret societies.
I see no other way.
Only fair, given that no single individual can have a private communication any more.

The problem with secret societies is that the smaller person, the one who feels like a cog in the wheel, does not want to let go and let live. That their emotions inject a desire to cling to a thing that brings the feeling of stability.

The idea of the secret society gives them the impression and feel of control and safety. to be on the inside, safe, looking out. A cloak, a shield.

But in effect, back channel hidden control systems built on the weaknesses of men.

That they end up being the very thing, the very motion and flow..... of the thing they so despise and fear, and seek shelter from, to do battle against, and carry forward in themselves a corner of self worth and self respect. That they ultimately, end up 'playing' themselves. A deep psyop.

Both true and false, and it is the false component that bears the appearance of being the slow infection that has gained the upper hand.

That secret societies are an emotional connection, an instinctual connection, like propaganda and advertizing. The monkey under the psychology of the self, gains position in the hierarchy and motion/life/flow of the clan, is the ultimate truth of the origins of the connection.

Just another lever, when in the hands of the sociopathic mind and intent.

[Snowflower]

I used to read articles about police and court corruption and believe them - but not really. I mean, somewhere under my scintillation and fascination of the abomination, I must have sort of figured that the bad guys in cop uniform were the exception and the court system was more just than unjust.

Then, I did not get my day in court. I plea bargained it away, even though I was not even a tiny fraction guilty, because they let me know just exactly how much they could make me suffer if I did not play their game.

There is only one solution. Absolute collapse of the entire system of civilization. If we don't have total collapse, then corruption of law, pedophilia, sex slavery, economic slavery, the descent of all of humanity into hell on earth will continue.

[ulli]

The public must push for and demand to outlaw all secret societies.
I see no other way.
Only fair, given that no single individual can have a private communication any more.

The problem with secret societies is that the smaller person, the one who feels like a cog in the wheel, does not want to let go and let live. That their emotions inject a desire to cling to a thing that brings the feeling of stability.

The idea of the secret society gives them the impression and feel of control and safety. to be on the inside, safe, looking out. A cloak, a shield.

But in effect, back channel hidden control systems built on the weaknesses of men.

That they end up being the very thing, the very motion and flow..... of the thing they so despise and fear, and seek shelter from, to do battle against, and carry forward in themselves a corner of self worth and self respect. That they ultimately, end up 'playing' themselves. A deep psyop.

Both true and false, and it is the false component that bears the appearance of being the slow infection that has gained the upper hand.

That secret societies are an emotional connection, an instinctual connection, like propaganda and advertizing. The monkey under the psychology of the self, gains position in the hierarchy and motion/life/flow of the clan, is the ultimate truth of the origins of the connection.

Just another lever, when in the hands of the sociopathic mind and intent.

This all just triggered some fresh thoughts here….
about the levels system of Scientology.
Having such a system to measure one's advancements
is possible a projection from a false neediness
which stems from the implanted idea that we need to climb, not grow.

So it leads one to ambitious striving, via getting oneself cleared by a third party
(the outer, controlling interference).

Meanwhile if one can imagine a plant which grows towards the light,
as a natural yearning for all-round nourishment, not only via the roots at the bottom,
but also via the leaves at the top, one can see the self directing it's journey towards a truly life giving reality.

Combined with the water and minerals which enter from the bottom,
and could be easily tampered with, sunlight is a purer form of nourishment.

So the deception of fake goals via a promised hierarchy as in organized religions, or secret societies,
corresponds more to moonlight, which is an adultered, fake version of the sunlight.

Having also a lot of thoughts about the moon, and it's role, as opposed to the sun,
from an astrologers viewpoint, but that would be for another thread.

[Hervé]

The public must push for and demand to outlaw all secret societies.
I see no other way.
Only fair, given that no single individual can have a private communication any more.

Aaaahhh... wordings...

See, from where I am looking at it, secret societies started because their practices/beliefs/knowledge was/were banned....

Outlaw/ban something and an underground counter-current immediately starts... never fails, it's automatic: a flow automatically generates its own counterflow.

When the early Christians, forced to hide underground, came out of their catacombs to be scooped up into the H.R. Empire, the others -- that were there before them -- replaced them underground for survival sake... out of sight... when witchcraft was so labelled and chased around to justify stakes' flesh burning...