Plausible Points for the Reptilian Case.

[heyokah]

* I'd like to start this discussion with a series documentaries from which I borrowed the title of this thread.
The different subjects presented in this documentary can be discussed seperately of course.

PLAUSIBLE POINTS FOR THE REPTILIAN CASE

This documentary explores the phenomenon of the "Reptilians" from a different point of view than most.
The film makers attempt to bring forth the most compelling evidence for the existence of the "serpent race" in an organized and serious manner.

It seems the idea of Reptilians or other worldly themes within the "truth movement" is a dividing point for some people.

This documentary tries to examine this subject completely and unbiased .

Are these entities known as Reptilians or Reptoids actually real?
It is up to you to decide!"

Here is the link to a playlist with the 22 videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFqfAh8J2hA&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=1

* 1.) INTRO with narrator: Mindseye Mike

* 2 and 3.) REPTILIAN MYTHOLOGY FOUND IN EVERY ANCIENT CULTURE ON EARTH - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5L0Z546nrc&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=2

* 4 and 5.) REPTILIAN TRAITS FOUND IN HUMANS: BRAINS, BLOOD and TAILS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iNvfeNk-tU&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=3

* 6.) TROODON and THE DINOSAUROID HYPOTHESIS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHy9kdaf5IE&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=5

* 7.) REPTILIAN SYMBOLISM: OLD and NEW - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi--E4KMaZI&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=6

* 8 and 9.) JULES VERNE, the GOLDEN DAWN and HOLLOW EARTH THEORY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNoIa1BUhPs&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=7

* 10, 11 and 12.) POP-CULTURE REPTILIANS - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSTcwf5SWOo&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=9

* 13.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: JOHN MACK, MD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7JQN97Ec0c&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=12

* 14.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: JOHN RHODES - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXnAwTbzYgM&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=13

* 15.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: DR. ARTHUR DAVID HORN - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htaf4gxPJuE&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=14

* 16.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: ALEX COLLIER / MICHAEL TSARION - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1nAcWoTRU0&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=15

* 17.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: JORDAN MAXWELL - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D4OhqMtnwA&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=16

* 18.) RESEARCHERS & ENCOUNTERS: STEWART SWERDLOW / RED ELK - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzx85Tvndqc&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=17

* 19.) RESEARCHERS and ENCOUNTERS: DAVID ICKE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXbHVQOv_E&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=18

* 20.) THE EYES HAVE IT - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqcS1-uZ1I&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=19

* 21 and 22.) CONCLUSION and EPILOUGE Q&A with NARRATOR and PRODUCER - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoXMUGOp8oI&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=20


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFqfAh8J2hA&feature=share&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&index=1

[Becky]

Here's another one to add to the list ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

[Freed Fox]

Since David Icke is one of those being cited, and because he is one of the leading proponents of this theory, here are a couple of quotes from him to keep in mind;

(From an interview video):


I don’t want to demonize the entire reptilian race, because it’s just a genetic stream in the great forever. I’m talking about a small number of this reptilian race that is behind the manipulation, not the race in general. Indeed, many of the reptilian stream both in physical bodies and in other dimensions are working now to help humanity win their freedom… to win our freedom back.

And from his book, Human Race Get Off Your Knees;


These entities who are manipulating and controlling the reality on this planet are actually what can be thought of as outcasts of the reptilian race.

[feltip]

I would also say Pierre Sabak makes a compelling argument for the reptilian case in his book "Murder of Reality"...a detailed study of language and how it points specifically to reptilian origins.

[ghostrider]

the reptoids have pulled the devils trick , convincing people they don't exsist ... after seeing so many , I quit looking or speaking about them ...the mental block to their exsistence is powerful , a veil that is not easily removed ... it' all up to the individual and their own personal awareness ...

[Sith73]

The reptoids here on Tera have been pulling the strings and dominating this world for some time. When Atlantis fell this world became easy to control. Keep in mind you have your good and the bad when it comes to reptoids. The main race that's been here for some time are the Alpha Draconians. Yes they are very much real, heck fighting the Dracoians goes all the way back to the Orion wars which is a long story in it self. The signs are everywhere on this world and one only needs to look around to see that. I acknowledge them and know they exist along with their Grey partners in crime that have been here. The Alpha Dracoians as an empire are sneaky bastards and it would be foolish to not acknowledge them because they are very much real. If you like true freedom than you should stand your ground to fight tyranny because they are all about dominating and control and eating us in so many ways. I will stand my ground against them.

[karelia]

Please, all, change your language. You cannot fight for peace, so don't say you fight. Yes, of course the reptilian races exist, and many of them value the polar opposite of what humans value: deceit, lies, control, manipulation. But as long as you fight them, this war will continue. Be aware of them, yes! And do stand your ground! But not by seeing them as an enemy. Instead, offer to share your own joy of living with them. Show them that life without negative values can be so much more rewarding than what they are going through right now. Show them there is a way to come out of their darkness. Then we may get somewhere, to something resembling peace, on this planet.

You'll be amazed what can happen if you approach things in a peaceful manner. Do try it for yourselves.

[feltip]

Please, all, change your language. You cannot fight for peace, so don't say you fight. Yes, of course the reptilian races exist, and many of them value the polar opposite of what humans value: deceit, lies, control, manipulation. But as long as you fight them, this war will continue. Be aware of them, yes! And do stand your ground! But not by seeing them as an enemy. Instead, offer to share your own joy of living with them. Show them that life without negative values can be so much more rewarding than what they are going through right now. Show them there is a way to come out of their darkness. Then we may get somewhere, to something resembling peace, on this planet.

You'll be amazed what can happen if you approach things in a peaceful manner. Do try it for yourselves.

well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

[karelia]

well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

You know within yourself that your flippancy regarding tea and toast and light and love are nothing but hollow words. Nobody but yourself can change your stance, but the truth stands tall on its own.

You may find some satisfaction over 'winning the fight' for an hour, or a day, or even a month. But know that the Joy of having aided someone out of the darkness lasts for eternity. I know which one I prefer.

[feltip]

well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

You know within yourself that your flippancy regarding tea and toast and light and love are nothing but hollow words. Nobody but yourself can change your stance, but the truth stands tall on its own.

You may find some satisfaction over 'winning the fight' for an hour, or a day, or even a month. But know that the Joy of having aided someone out of the darkness lasts for eternity. I know which one I prefer.

I only "won" the fight because it did not go on for a second longer - me thinks

fighting means starving the beast within - that means not feeding ego while in an "alive" awaken state of consciousness

my point was not to be flippant - my point was this creature wanted nothing to do with anything I had to offer - it wanted the Light I was stewarding - that was all it wanted...me being cast into the abyss for all eternity was merely collateral damage - kinda like throwing an empty beer can out the window.

there was no reasoning - no opportunity to reason.

we must lay siege during our awaken hours - we must starve the beast while moving through our daily lives - we must crucify our ego - so that when we each face this creature when we "die" - (shed our skin) - it will be as weak as we have made it while "alive".

I have no business aiding anyone out of darkness - nor do I hubristically believe I could even if I wanted to.

this is an individual fight.

[heyokah]

Here's another one to add to the list ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm

****

I add a short video version.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1xxXoccSw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib24DJkrbZ8

[Sith73]

karelia,

I'm sorry I can't tolerate when others suffer under tyranny, oppression manipulation, children and adults being eaten like livestock. Earth isn't the only planet that has suffered from their manipulations of dominance and control. I think peace should be the goal bottom line, but when a race has been told to leave and the crap they have done just puts me over the edge. No being should suffer in the universe, but it goes on. When peace fails and they don't listen what do you do? Do you sit back and do nothing? Believe me I hate war...... fighting and all that stuff, but if fighting meant the difference from being free and being a slave I would fight.

I have a heart of a warrior and its in my nature to help others and fight if necessary so there can be peace.

[karelia]

Dear Sith73,

We are on the same page. I cannot tolerate such horrific acts either.

They may have been told to leave, but it was done very half heartedly, don't you think? Considering that there are still a lot of HUMANS who do their bidding, or even imagined bidding, with some kind of utterly demented pleasure, why would the dracos see the need to leave?

Peace will not fail. But we need to get over ourselves and focus on the task. And that cannot be done with fighting but only with peace bringing.


karelia,

I'm sorry I can't tolerate when others suffer under tyranny, oppression manipulation, children and adults being eaten like livestock. Earth isn't the only planet that has suffered from their manipulations of dominance and control. I think peace should be the goal bottom line, but when a race has been told to leave and the crap they have done just buts me over the edge. No being should suffer in the universe, but it goes on. When peace fails and they don't listen what do you do? Do you sit back and do nothing? Believe me I hate war...... fighting and all that stuff, but if fighting meant the difference from being free and being a slave I would fight.

I have a heart of a warrior and its in my nature to help others and fight if necessary so there can be peace.

[Natalia]

Since David Icke is one of those being cited, and because he is one of the leading proponents of this theory, here are a couple of quotes from him to keep in mind;

(From an interview video):


I don’t want to demonize the entire reptilian race, because it’s just a genetic stream in the great forever. I’m talking about a small number of this reptilian race that is behind the manipulation, not the race in general. Indeed, many of the reptilian stream both in physical bodies and in other dimensions are working now to help humanity win their freedom… to win our freedom back.

And from his book, Human Race Get Off Your Knees;


These entities who are manipulating and controlling the reality on this planet are actually what can be thought of as outcasts of the reptilian race.

That is so nice to read David saying that, I've never heard him say it before and at times he did give the impression (and/or myself and others got the impression) that he was demonizing the whole race...

I believe that it's the same with the annunaki as well...some are benevolent and different in natures compared to some others from the same race...

~love~

[heyokah]

I would also say Pierre Sabak makes a compelling argument for the reptilian case in his book "Murder of Reality"...a detailed study of language and how it points specifically to reptilian origins.

Thank you feltip, for mentioning this writer.
Here's something about the book you mentioned.

http://www.pierresabak.com/newsite/viewpage.php?page_id=12

The Murder of Reality: Hidden Symbolism of the Dragon

Pierre Sabak cites from more than twenty dictionaries and compares the same worded puns found in Greek, Latin, Chinese, Persian, Japanese, Hebrew, and Arabic, revealing a uniformity of belief evident in the Classical world.
He analyzes the Serpent’s clever manipulation of collective reality through the study of language and etymology and shows:

* Correlations between U.F.Os and Angels based on the study of Ancient Arabic and Aramaic.

* How an alien race seeded planet earth.

* Evidence showing that the Caucasian race originated from Mars.

* Conclusive proof that the White priesthood of Israel is linked to Adolf Hitler and the Nazi party.

* The Hidden Matriarchal priesthood: Information on how men are excluded from the highest forms of initiation permitted only to women, children and castrated Eunuchs.

* The purity of the angelic bloodline protected by the priestess.

* The Catholic Church and its collaboration with fallen angels.

* Child Sacrifice and the worship of Yahweh

* The illegitimacy of Abraham’s son Isaac.

* Incorrect translations of Hieroglyphs and the hidden connection between the Jewish and Egyptian priesthood.

* Relationships between the Islamic and Egyptian Mystery Schools.

As is said: This is the book the priesthood does not want you to Read!

-

I also add a two part interview with Pierre Sabak.

"We delve deep into the realm of Illuminotics. Exploring the relationship with monarchical bloodlines and the many ancient account of the serpent preisthood. Covering much important etymology & symbolism both within the lodge & the corporate world. Pierre touches on new information & concepts until now not expressed within the public domain. This interview is a must listen for all truth seekers driven to dig beneath the surface of the alternative media. You will learn much from this fascinating discussion."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbJtWSdZars


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUZPB5Tj2qw

[heyokah]

MORE PLAUSIBLE POINTS: EVIDENCE FOR THE SERPENT RACE.
The follow-up to "Plausible Points for the Reptilian Case."

'More Plausible Points' takes a deeper look at "the reptilians", an ever-growing phenomena that has shaped our history, myths, religions and culture.
This objective and meticulously researched documentary speculates on the possible existence of an advanced inter-terrestrial, extra-terrestrial, or inter-dimensional reptilian species.
The film makers beg the question: "Did a prehistoric serpent race once walk the Earth...and if so, do they still exist?".

-Saga A
Intro
Chapter 1- MORE Reptilian Mythology I
Chapter 2- MORE on the "Dinosauroid" hypothesis
Chapter 3- The Reptilian Past: Imprints of Dragons & Dinosaurs
Chapter 4- MORE Inner Earth: Underground Bases, DIA, & Phillip Schneider
Chapter 5- Lizard Language: Serpent Etymology
Chapter 6- MORE Reptilian Mythology II
Chapter 7- Ophiolatreia


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV0odkZuqzE

-Saga B
Chapter 8- MORE Inner Earth: Underground Bases, DIA, & Philip Schneider (2/2)
Chapter 9- MORE Reptilian Symbolism: From Past to Present
Chapter 10- Draco=Dracula: The Dragon Order & the Reptilian/Vampire Connection
Chapter 11- Other Dimensional Reptilians?
Chapter 12- Ophiuchus & Other Astrological Serpent Symbolism
Chapter 13- William Henry


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIbTR1EZUqY

[Spellbound]

Here's another one to add to the list ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm

****

I add a short video version.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP1xxXoccSw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib24DJkrbZ8

Is this Lacerta interview for real?? Or is it dubunked??

Dave - Toronto

[heyokah]

Here's another one to add to the list ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm

****



Is this Lacerta interview for real?? Or is it dubunked??

Dave - Toronto

Yes, that's the question.

I have been searching on the Internet for what I could find about these 'Lacerta Files.'

Here is the article : "The Lacerta Files debunked?" - February 21, 2012, from the "Alternative Realities" site.

The comments are interesting as well!
_

"The Lacerta Files"

If you have not already seen it there is a 2 hour long audio version of the lacerta interview on youtube transformed into audio by us here at Alternative Realities .Click HERE to view it (http://www.alternativerealities.org/2011/10/reptilian-interview.html).
We have had a pdf copy of this since ages and decided to transform it into audio. It's a great story about an alleged interview in Sweden with a reptilian woman belonging to an advanced underground "reptilian race" with super natural abilities and advanced technology.

To describe it shortly it is about a Swede named Ole K., who by a friend is told that he had met a reptile woman in south of Sweden and Ole was to be permitted to interview the woman which he later did at two occasions, 16 December 1999 and 24 April 2000.
The interviews takes place in an unnamed town in southern Sweden. The woman, who calls herself Lacerta (Latin for reptile) has a reptile-like appearance, but, with the help of her abilities she make people see her in human form. She says she belongs to an ancient race that lived underground for millions of years and hidden openings of their caves can be found in Sweden and lots of other places throughout the world. Further she says that some of the flying saucers we humans are seeing does belong to her reptilian race. She travels to the surface now and then to study humans but does not normally allow open contact with anyone or let anyone see her in her true reptilian form.

Now there are some websites out there claiming to have some sort of copyright on this transcript that was granted by some Swedish guy named Jimmy Bergman.
Problem is that when researching this, it shows that Jimmy Bergman is just a fictional person. And the only explanation is that certain websites made that name up so that it would appear like they had been granted the copyright. Which is not the case there is no Jimmy Bergman to be found that claim to be the author or original receiver of this transcript that appeared about 10 years ago!
In the end this name seems to have been constructed for one purpose only! Namely a lame copyright scam attempt, which is really hilarious since the transcript says it should be spread far and wide and shared via e-mail and printed copies etc... This transcript was also spread that way from the beginning, and also via various file sharing networks such as dc++ in pdf format
There are 14008 persons in Sweden with the last-name: Bergman and 17274 persons with the name: Jimmy. which gives you a hint of that this is not a very unusual Swedish name

The only traces of what could possibly be the original source of this transcript that has been in circulation for about 10 years now and has become known as The Lacerta files. Is a man named Jo Conrad a controversial German author of conspiracy and New Age literature.Jo Conrads books are pretty much taboo in Germany because of him being accused of "antisemitism" and being "nazi friendly".

Well enough of that, (and back on topic) in Jo Conrads book Ursprünge (released 2000) he has a chapter about Lacerta. Further more when asked Jo Conrad has said that he had a very brief e-mail correspondence with a Swede named Ole K., who at the time seemed scared and after a while the correspondence ceased without explanation....and Jo Conrad never heard from him again and has nothing more to say about it?
Another trace of the The Lacerta files origin is www.sabon.org. At the time of the Lacerta Files publishing on the page it was registered on Rico Kolodzey and still is, Rico a German mystic who is mostly known for his claims to be able to feed and live of sunlight and water only! A claim he applied to prove on "The One Million Dollar Paranormal Challenge" but was pretty much laughed at and he was not allowed to participate.
Rico is not replying on any questions concerning the files or from where he first got them. thats just about as deep as you can get in the search for the true origins of "The Lacerta Files"

Now you tell me if I ruin people´s fun? with expressing my own little theory: That just maybe Jo and Rico the two controversial Germans happen to friends? And just maybe Jo Conrad the AUTHOR of conspiracy and New Age literature is my main suspect of who is the creator of this transcript.
We will probably never know and I guess thats just like those behind it wants it.

Fact or fiction it´s for you to decide.

-
READ MORE
http://www.alternativerealities.org/2012/02/lacerta-files-debunked.html

[Spellbound]

Thx Heyokah,
Yes, I saw that last night as I was surfing the internet trying to find out more info on the Lactera interview....but the above doesn't really do much to debunk (or verify) the interview. I know that Bill has said that some sort of "interview with an alien" was in fact debunked...but not sure it was this specific interview. It's a fascinating read (or listen). I wish we knew more about this.

If anyone has any more info here....please let us know.

Dave - Toronto

[heyokah]

Thx Heyokah,
Yes, I saw that last night as I was surfing the internet trying to find out more info on the Lactera interview....but the above doesn't really do much to debunk (or verify) the interview. I know that Bill has said that some sort of "interview with an alien" was in fact debunked...but not sure it was this specific interview. It's a fascinating read (or listen). I wish we knew more about this.

If anyone has any more info here....please let us know.

Dave - Toronto

Hi Dave,

I think you are referring to the Lawrence Spencer's 'ALIEN INTERVIEW', which was talked about in this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7132-Alien-Interview--Sorry-folks-this-is-a-hoax-BR-

This was not about the Lacerta Files.

[Carmody]

well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

You know within yourself that your flippancy regarding tea and toast and light and love are nothing but hollow words. Nobody but yourself can change your stance, but the truth stands tall on its own.

You may find some satisfaction over 'winning the fight' for an hour, or a day, or even a month. But know that the Joy of having aided someone out of the darkness lasts for eternity. I know which one I prefer.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=778524&viewfull=1#post778524

Yes, it can be done.

[Spellbound]

Ahhh...thankyou for clarifying.

So, the hunt for the truth regarding the Lactera interview continues.

Dave - Toronto

[Nanoo Nanoo]

interesting series , annoying music .. ugh

[heyokah]

interesting series , annoying music .. ugh

I fully agree.
I thought it was ME, being too old for those musical carpets.:rolleyes:

[heyokah]

I'd like to put up this interview done with Simon Parkes by Karelia last month, edited and uploaded by Bill Ryan, which was posted on Karelia's "Simon Parkes – Interviews" thread.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54494-Simon-Parkes----Interviews/page5

What he is saying about the white light at dead is very interesting and agrees more or less with what Robert Morning Sky says in the Terra Papers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb0SOzYeRzs&feature=share&list=PL56C348FFA71117B9)

He's also one of the few that supports David Icke's shapeshifting idea.

However open-minded skepticism is critical


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4

[heyokah]

well, when I was on the edge of the abyss - had just puked on myself from fear - was having my third eye raped by one of these...it was very much a fight - a fight for my soul and I did everything I could to keep it.

there was not much of tea and toast and lively conversation about peace, light, love and spring flowers...no it was all I could do to fight for my soul.

I suggest one 1) starve them and 2) once starved - kick them in the balls.

just say'n

You know within yourself that your flippancy regarding tea and toast and light and love are nothing but hollow words. Nobody but yourself can change your stance, but the truth stands tall on its own.

You may find some satisfaction over 'winning the fight' for an hour, or a day, or even a month. But know that the Joy of having aided someone out of the darkness lasts for eternity. I know which one I prefer.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=778524&viewfull=1#post778524

Yes, it can be done.


To Be the Light, or Not To Be the Light.....is That the Question ?

http://i41.tinypic.com/x4m35j.jpg

[Spellbound]

I'd like to put up this interview done with Simon Parkes by Karelia last month, edited and uploaded by Bill Ryan, which was posted on Karelia's "Simon Parkes – Interviews" thread.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54494-Simon-Parkes----Interviews/page5

What he is saying about the white light at dead is very interesting and agrees more or less with what Robert Morning Sky says in the Terra Papers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb0SOzYeRzs&feature=share&list=PL56C348FFA71117B9)

He's also one of the few that supports David Icke's shapeshifting idea.

However open-minded skepticism is critical


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6dxXAAAIp4

Wow!! I had no idea about this video. Thankyou so much for posting it. I will definiately DL and watch it later tonight.

Dave - Toronto

[heyokah]

I'm pointing at an mp3 recording Bill Ryan made 18th May 2010 with his dictaphone.
It is a conversation with David Icke and Jordan Maxwell over the dinner table, exchanging reptilian stories that had been reported to them.

From the thread
"David Icke and Jordan Maxwell exchanging accounts describing reptilians".


Hi, All:

Click here (http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Project_Avalon_May_2010.mp3) for a 20 minute unplanned dinner table conversation between David Icke and Jordan Maxwell, in which they exchange reports about the reptilian presence. I grabbed it with a dictaphone I had in my pocket. (Moral of the story: never be without one!)

http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Project_Avalon_May_2010.mp3


Enjoy. (Or be alarmed, depending on your disposition :)

Cheers, Bill

[onawah]

Just to add in my two cents, Simon said to his knowledge, the Lactera interview was accurate.
He also said that even higher dimensional beings, such as the Pleiadians, must be prepared to defend themselves, because in the higher dimensions, attacks may also come.
For my own part, I believe what the Law of One states, that we can evolve spiritually more rapidly when we are in service to others, so once we reach 5D or higher, we might still be engaging in warfare, to help protect others.
For example, doing something like what some of the higher dimensional humanoid races are doing for us now, which is intervening and preventing the Reptoids from retaining their rulership here, and that can't always be done peacefully.

[DNA]

[QUOTE=Becky;781790]Here's another one to add to the list ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm

****

I add a short video version.



Is this Lacerta interview for real?? Or is it dubunked??

Dave - Toronto


I'm going to state something as simply as I can in regards to this.
I'm in awe of how good the "lacerta interview" is.
The Lacerta interview works in the whole ancient astronaut theory, takes into account modern UFO sightings, gives a plausible line of thinking in terms of reptilian evolution and gives small clues here and there that can be backed up by differing testimonial.
It's probably fiction, but who ever authored it is an absolute genius in my opinion.

Now let us take a step in the scary direction, the direction where we give the Lacerta interview the benefit of the doubt. Lacerta states that we live in a scary neck of the woods in so far as our galactic neighborhood is concerned, and that there is presently a series of wars and or skirmishes taking place in and around our planet. Lacerta states this is the reason why some of her people are working with our scientists in black budget labs. Lacerta states there is almost no way to avoid being entangled in one of these wars. And mankind will have to participate in something like this sooner or later.

This kind of helps explain what was reported in The Dulce Papers by Branton, The Montauk Project by Preston Nichols and the involvement of Reptilians with our off world space fleet as reported by Captain Mark Richards in a Kerry Cassidy interview. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bPhG3WP2xM)

Niara Isley also mentions a reptilian pilot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4FA_42qjV0) who flies a UFO from a USA Air Force Base, in another Kerry interview


Now here comes the weird stuff.
Lacerta describes underground cities and that these cities have surface based entry points where these folks may come and go as they please.
This is kind of backed up in a wierd story from Arizona titled Reptilian Rape in the Superstition Mountains. (http://www.burlingtonnews.net/superstitionabductions.html) If you hit the link it is the second story so you have to scroll down a little bit.

In this story the lady describes falling through what appears to be a halographic image of a rock wall into just such a surface based entry point.
The images the woman describes are very much in line with what Lacerta gives a description of in her account.
The woman in the story also describes insignias and uniform details that are very much in line with what Lacerta describes.

[Atlas]

I agree with you on this and my discernment tells me that there are so many holes in the Lacerta story it's laughable...
Exactly Ross
This 'story' is more than a decade old and has nothing to do with contactees (or reality imo) It's an interesting read though as I always loved Science Fiction.

At 1:58:09, Lacerta says that the UFO below seems to be genuine:

March 23, 1974, 23:00. Albiosc, Alpes de Haute-Provence, France.
Photographer: it is believed to have been Jean Bedet.

As reported by Jean Bedet himself in Lumières Dans La Nuit of October 1974, he and a team of ufologists participated in the night watch in the region of Barjols, when they sighted a UFO described as a red object with green lines facing up (others saw these lines facing down!). On April 14, Bedet had to return to this village to see his parents and spend the day in the countryside.

He wrote: “I left my car in the Barjols village square to meet a friend and drink a coffee. Upon return to my car I found, under the windshield wipers, an envelope, inside which there was a piece of paper with a few lines written and a slide showing a red mass with tubes or green rays headed down…in the region of our night watch!”

http://img.xooimage.com/files26/f/3/7/picamafr04b-17347b7.jpg

This well-known picture has been published numerous times in magazines and books. The consensus among the top expert UFO researchers in France consulted is that it is a hoax made by Bedet himself, obviously designed to confirm their visual sighting of days before. (Source (http://www.noufors.com/Documents/Books,%20Manuals%20and%20Published%20Papers/Downloaded%20Papers/approach.pdf))

[heyokah]

Thank you DNA for that Kerrie Cassidy interview with Captain Mark Richards.

Published on Nov 8, 2013

This is an interview with Captain Mark Richards conducted at Vacaville Prison on November 2, 2013.
This is the first time in the over 30 years of his incarceration, that any journalist has interviewed him.
Kerry Cassidy was not allowed to document this face-to-face interview with camera or any recording devices or to take notes during the interview. Everything you are about to see has been recalled from memory immediately after her meeting with him.
Just prior to the interview She spoke briefly with his wife Jo Ann who also was present during the interview. 

Navy Captain Mark Richards was an officer involved in the Dulce Battle as well as very active in the Secret Space Program and U.S. Space Command for many years prior to his being arrested and convicted of a murder he did not commit.
This is a classic case of the government framing someone who they feel may be turning against them from within the military.

"...When the truth was evident that sub-humans and other creatures were being produced from abducted human females, impregnated against their will, a secret resistance group formed within the military and intelligence agencies of the U.S. Government that did not approve of the deals that had been made with the 'Off-worlders'.
Many of these brave humans would be assassinated, or "died under mysterious circumstance," or would be silenced in other ways.

The Air Force Intelligence Officer that reportedly was the man who met with the Aliens at Holloman (Air Force Base) in 1964, was the legendary 'Dutchman,' Ellis Loyd Richards, Jr. - the same man who would reportedly order the attack on Dulce in 1979, and whose son, Captain Mark Richards, would lead the human attack on the facility."---E.D.H. Earth Defense Headquarter's




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bPhG3WP2xM

[observer]

Just to add a touch of validity to Captain Richard's testimony, here is an Air Force service insignia that is available from a popular online military surplus equipment website that authenticates the existence of a "space command" division of the Air Force:

http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b509/POV_At_Exit_0/spaceoperationspin_zps32a4cbc5.jpg (http://s1289.photobucket.com/user/POV_At_Exit_0/media/spaceoperationspin_zps32a4cbc5.jpg.html)

The U.S. Air Force 'Space Operations' Badge.

Available here:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/new-usaf-senior-space-operations-badge.aspx?a=336770

[observer]

Here's another one to add to the list ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeWg_qSddeE

It's an interview with a Reptilian, Lacerta - I'd love to know what others think of this, and whether it is in fact legit

I have no idea if this is for real or fake, but I thought I'd give a link to the transcript of the interviews. It's an interesting read anyway.

Reptoids of the Inner Earth

"The Lacerta Files"

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_lacerta_files.htm

****

I add a short video version.



Is this Lacerta interview for real?? Or is it dubunked??

Dave - Toronto


I'm going to state something as simply as I can in regards to this.
I'm in awe of how good the "lacerta interview" is.
The Lacerta interview works in the whole ancient astronaut theory, takes into account modern UFO sightings, gives a plausible line of thinking in terms of reptilian evolution and gives small clues here and there that can be backed up by differing testimonial.
It's probably fiction, but who ever authored it is an absolute genius in my opinion.

[....snip]

Isn't it so much a shame that there is no physical evidence available in the Lacerta Interview.

For instance, in the Phil Schneider interviews, Phil offered strange objects which were determined to be off-planet materials.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oljrjxnixtw
Just such evidence would go a long way to validate the Lacerta claims.... a photograph, a video presentation, anything???

[korgh]

Is just my imagination or we have a similarity here?

http://i43.tinypic.com/juygck.jpg

[DNA]

Is just my imagination or we have a similarity here?

http://i43.tinypic.com/juygck.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_VsLF2fGpU

[Cidersomerset]

I posted this on another thread, may be of interest....


Re: The Inter-Dimensional Entities Behind the Dark Agenda That’s Taking Over the World

Ed Long at Information farm has compiled some responses , Ion gave to Bob
about the Lemurians . Good stuff but who knows if this is correct unless
you have met one or know some one who has. They came from Lemuria
and settled in the Easter Island area.

This is from one of Bob many private sessions with ion on many subjects.
They were not for public consumption, but Bob has played items from
a lot of them over the passed year, editing out private and delicate secret
info.....



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jlp85WlSC-A/UkBxQWVx6cI/AAAAAAAAKZs/GXbIOCsbvqc/s1600/ion_bob_header2.png

Sunday, November 3, 2013
Lemurians | Lizard People


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bDLPKLy6yvw/UnaO0wCaaII/AAAAAAAALGw/4-qxlIgzsRg/s1600/1.jpg

Payday

Listen

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/ion_lemurians_lizard_people.mp3


http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/lemurians-lizard-people.html

Bob Dobbs’ private session 267, 24 August 2010.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66878-The-Inter-Dimensional-Entities-Behind-the-Dark-Agenda-That--s-Taking-Over-the-World&p=777617#post777617

[Selene]

Is just my imagination or we have a similarity here?

http://i43.tinypic.com/juygck.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_VsLF2fGpU

Most interesting, DNA and Korgh.

Those service patches and agency logos using the ‘vector’ symbol are undoubtedly intended as a nonverbal source of loyalty/alliance recognition by “others” who may encounter them.

In this case, our PTB are allied.... to whom? Or seek safe passage from....?

The sum total of the symbolic representations here, along with the frequent inclusion of Orion symbolism above, this suggests the Alpha Draconids of Orion, doesn’t it?

The reptilian population.


I_VsLF2fGpU


Nothing else makes sense.

S*x.

Cheers,

Selene

[heyokah]

Thank you observer, korgh and DNA for poitning at the symbols that are around us



http://i43.tinypic.com/juygck.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_VsLF2fGpU

*


Now, I always wondered where that funny A on my car came from.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2a8j28n.png

And look what I found after a little search.

http://i41.tinypic.com/rkwrbr.png

I'm owning a space car !
That's why I always feel like flying when driving along the foothills of the Massif Central :rolleyes:

[heyokah]

I posted this on another thread, may be of interest....


Re: The Inter-Dimensional Entities Behind the Dark Agenda That’s Taking Over the World

Ed at Information farm has compiled some responses , Ion gave to Bob
about the Lemurians . Good stuff but who knows if this is correct unless
you have met one or know some one who has. They came from Lemuria
and settled in the Easter Island area.

This is from one of Bob many private sessions with ion on many subjects.
They were not for public consumption, but Bob has played items from
a lot of them over the passed year, editing out private and delicate secret
info.....



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jlp85WlSC-A/UkBxQWVx6cI/AAAAAAAAKZs/GXbIOCsbvqc/s1600/ion_bob_header2.png

Sunday, November 3, 2013
Lemurians | Lizard People


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bDLPKLy6yvw/UnaO0wCaaII/AAAAAAAALGw/4-qxlIgzsRg/s1600/1.jpg

Payday

Listen

http://halkinnaman.com/ed/audio_rr/ion_lemurians_lizard_people.mp3


http://ionandbob.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/lemurians-lizard-people.html

Bob Dobbs’ private session 267, 24 August 2010.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?66878-The-Inter-Dimensional-Entities-Behind-the-Dark-Agenda-That--s-Taking-Over-the-World&p=777617#post777617



"Ed at Information farm has compiled some responses , Ion gave to Bob
about the Lemurians "....


Sorry Cider, I couldn't resist.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LND1PypBnrU

Ed, iON & BOb? Who or what are they? :confused:

http://informationfarm.blogspot.fr/p/ion.html ???

[heyokah]

I'm pointing at an mp3 recording Bill Ryan made 18th May 2010 with his dictaphone.
It is a conversation with David Icke and Jordan Maxwell over the dinner table, exchanging reptilian stories that had been reported to them.

From the thread
"David Icke and Jordan Maxwell exchanging accounts describing reptilians".


Hi, All:

Click here (http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Projec t_Avalon_May_2010.mp3) for a 20 minute unplanned dinner table conversation between David Icke and Jordan Maxwell, in which they exchange reports about the reptilian presence. I grabbed it with a dictaphone I had in my pocket. (Moral of the story: never be without one!)

http://projectavalon.net/David_Icke_Jordan_Maxwell_reptilian_stories_Projec t_Avalon_May_2010.mp3


Enjoy. (Or be alarmed, depending on your disposition :)

Cheers, Bill



I'd like to add two of the videos from the the OP. David Icke's view on the reptilian shape-shifting phenomena and Jordan Maxwell's, (in which he is telling the same story as on the tape Bill made).

Sorry for the annoying music.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXbHVQOv_E&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=18



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D4OhqMtnwA&list=PLR03Wazmqjc9OpFV8YGOIlmh2kO4XDDDs&feature=share&index=16

[heyokah]

And like always, "C'est le ton qui fait la musique"

So choose your bag wisely....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lncwRnV4Gsg

[observer]

LMAO....

Which only proves my point: "The only good reptile is a handbag".

[Theseus]

The Lacerta tape was probably the most credible "claim" from an alien ive ever heard in my life, and boy have i ran through some claims lol...
Ive listened to it 3 times... I found it astonishing, And refreshing in a way. I think it is genuine.

[heyokah]

I found this video "Scientific Proof David Icke Was Right About the Reptilians?"
It's curious, because the maker used to debunk various claims of the reptilian presence.

As there is a whole body of scientific literature that PROVES humans have reptilian biological influences in our bodies and brains it is really worth watching.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLop4NUxsQs&feature=share&list=FLxP9AB0oI_CoxoyDw77BIQA

It leaves us with the question. What if, besides reptilian entities controlling our world, it's also our own reptilian brains that are controlling our lives.

If our reptilian brains are getting more dominant through mind control, food, vaccines, drugs and so on, this could result in the increase of reptilian behavior of a large amount of the population.

The term “reptilian” refers to our primitive, instinctive brain function that is shared by all reptiles and mammals, including humans.
It is the most powerful and oldest of our coping brain functions since without it we would not be alive.

The reptilian brain deals with:

1. Instinctive survival
2. Attack or hide response
3. Aggression
4. Anger display
5. Fear
6. Revenge
7. Tribalism & territorial behavior
8. Reproductive instinct


http://i58.tinypic.com/2hp1to2.jpg

By thinking of the brain as a single organ many
people overlook the reptile inside of them

[heyokah]

Here's a good article about our reptilian brain and how it has been triggered.

"Beating the Reptilian Brain (Triune Brain Model)"

In this article, one is given a closer look at how understanding your brain can help you to better understand both your behavior and the behavior of others. - 


Your reptilian brain is part of your unconscious (subconscious) mind, and its primary role is to make sure that you stay alive and spread your genes by mating with others.

Some of the traits associated with the reptilian brain include: aggression, dominance, seeking a mate, sex, rigidity, obsessiveness, compulsiveness, worship, fear, submission and greed.

It carries out a set program of behavioral responses when presented with certain external triggers. It does not learn from its mistakes, and understands only images not language.

The type of trigger that you are exposed to will determine the resulting behavioral response. Some triggers may cause reptilian brain responses, resulting in aggressive, territorial and domineering behavior.

Whilst other triggers may target the emotional or limbic brain, resulting in feelings of pleasure or pain and memories associated with those emotions.

The article shows some of the most common triggers of the reptilian brain .

- Road rage is a term used to describe an outburst of moderate to extreme rage in response to another road users actions, and shows just how easily the reptilian brain can take over your conscious brain. 

- Sex can range from graphic full nudity to attractive visually appealing models or presenters. Sex stimulates reptilian behaviors such as worship, submission, aggression and wanting to seek a mate. 

- Power, or the prospect of gaining or losing power, is another important trigger to look out for and one which also activates unconscious brain responses.

- The most common way that power is used, is through money. Anything that promises you lots of quick and easy money automatically triggers a variety of reptilian brain responses. Most notably, greed, aggression and compulsive behavior.

- Self Image. Things that promise to improve the way you look and/or the health of your body, stimulate reptilian brain responses such as obsessive compulsive behavior, dominance and self-maintenance. 

- Food is therefore an extremely powerful trigger generating strong reptilian and emotional brain responses.
Food can cause intense feelings of pleasure (emotional brain response) whilst also stimulating greed, dominance, aggression and obsessive compulsive reptilian behavioral responses.

All of the triggers can result in automatic irrational behavioral responses, whereby the conscious thinking logical brain is essentially bypassed and the unconscious irrational reptilian brain dominates.

The easiest way to understand this is to remember that sex, power, self-image and food can cause people to behave completely differently to how they would normally behave. Acting more like animals, rather than rational human beings.


Note: The reptilian brain thinks in images, so pay particular attention to the pictures and videos that you see. However, do not neglect the words you see or hear, as vivid descriptive language can also be used to create images in your mind.

Fear is often used by governments to get the population to go along with plans or agendas. By using fear the reptilian brain is activated, and one of its pre-programmed behavioral responses when confronted with a threat is to dominate or submit to it.

As a result, fear can be quite effectively used to encourage the population to “submit” to new proposals and/or “dominate” the enemy.

The media and advertisers deliberately use triggers that result in reptilian and emotional brain responses, thereby bypassing your logical mind and rational decision-making process. 

Anger.
A person who is made to feel angry, threatened, worried or stressful is likely to react in a predominantly reptilian way. They may become irritable, display anger, shout, spout verbal abuse or even become physically violent, reacting just like a wild animal defending its territory. 

Exposure to a trigger can completely change a person’s personality, turning them into a different person from the person who you thought you knew.

Be aware of this when dealing with people and try to determine what brain they are reacting with, as this will allow you to respond in the best possible way.

- See more at: http://www.eruptingmind.com/beating-the-reptilian-brain/#sthash.jdnz20Kp.dpuf

[Snowflower]

got about half way thru the series (OP). mindblowing. enough for today.

[heyokah]

got about half way thru the series (OP). mindblowing. enough for today.

Yes, it's a good series and interesting how the past is linked together. They more or less covered it all.
Also a good one for the 'newbie', to get some sort of contact with the outside reality. ;)

Although the background music is killing from time to time.

[heyokah]

Forgive them, they don't know what they're doing......

David Icke is talking about Reptilians/Archons/the Dark Force....

For those who'll watch up till the end, he's giving the answer to how to end our enslavement.

"People have to react from the heart and not from their emotions (gut). We have to open our hearts, be loving and caring, with compassion and empathy."

"BY MOVING BACK FROM A GUT SOCIETY TO A HEART SOCIETY....WE'LL STOP BEING A FOOD SOURCE, ENERGETICALLY, FOR THAT WHICH IS CONTROLING US.
That's the way out of this,"





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-IsNZiPfRM

- "People who are exposing the truth about the Reptilians/Archons, but who don't understand what has been talked about here, those who keep fighting with anger, will only feed the enemy.
We must LOVE, so the food source will be cut off and we'll live in a very different world" -

[heyokah]

Oh, well, those reptiles, let them fight each other.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/photos/2014/03/03/3955563.htm?site=northwest

http://i59.tinypic.com/2zf0v28.jpg

[STR]

One very plausible point is that it is all fake. A giant far reaching PsyOPs program. We see the awakening taking place right now. Its happening in an 'innocent unnoticed way' sneaking in as things like this do, and yet in plain sight all the while. I guess congrats are in order. You all reading this and most that are inclined to read here will see it as experiencers or voluntary service and higher good some of you anyway, but the masses once the wave hits them? Those not inclined to places like here will see it as invasion. I don't suspect they'll react with rose colored glasses but hey look on the bright side. The Government is not going to tell you anything. We know that from Simon right? He said it himself. The awakening to the invasion is coming and happening here on Project Avalon mostly. As it waves out you'll see. The masses will see it different. But seeing as everything is a business model, including this event its all good. You all have just saved the economy and given the guys in power the okay to kick into gear to weaponize space! The new boom industry! And no one sees it coming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP8ftWzFYI4

[heyokah]

Thank you STR for the Dr. Carol Rosin video.

When you started your comment with the words "One very plausible point is that it is all fake" I first thought you were pointing at the Reptilian Case being a fake, but after having watched the video, I see it wasn't meant that way.

I'm posting a link to:

"The Coming 'ET Threat' Will Be A Lie", From Duncan Roads'.

In there is a testimony by Carol Rosin to the Project Disclosure (Steven Greer).
Take note of the date, it is well before Sept 11, and subsequent events.

It deals with the hidden agenda to weaponize space under cover of four bogus threats - specifically, a Russian threat (culminating in Star Wars); a terrorist/rogue nations threat (son of Star Wars); followed by an asteroid threat, and finally a hostile ET threat.

http://www.rense.com/general50/ec.htm

[STR]

Thank you STR for the Dr. Carol Rosin video.

When you started your comment with the words "One very plausible point is that it is all fake" I first thought you were pointing at the Reptilian Case being a fake, but after having watched the video, I see it wasn't meant that way.

I'm posting a link to:

"The Coming 'ET Threat' Will Be A Lie", From Duncan Roads'.

In there is a testimony by Carol Rosin to the Project Disclosure (Steven Greer).
Take note of the date, it is well before Sept 11, and subsequent events.

It deals with the hidden agenda to weaponize space under cover of four bogus threats - specifically, a Russian threat (culminating in Star Wars); a terrorist/rogue nations threat (son of Star Wars); followed by an asteroid threat, and finally a hostile ET threat.

http://www.rense.com/general50/ec.htm


Yeah boy I was just looking for something else to watch so good timing! If you read the bible and understand it it plainly tells us these guys with some abilities and knowledge came here and created a being using their DNA and a petri dish out of clay. They did many many trial and error experiments to get us viable products and here we are. So we know there is a presence but this alien invasion is all fake. I don't buy it. I think they'll be pretty convincing tho. The guys that originated this garden full of humans as we know him is above the stuff mostly seen like these triangle crafts. Those are us all the way. Many others are also. The guys that created us? Man we are talking about dudes that outlived their sun through their own intelligence! Then when they could not live there anymore they moved and when they couldn't find a similar planet they apparently made one by finding one near a sun but needing a moon so they set up a planet as close to theirs as they could get it. Then they moved a moon after apparently building it! After that it was just a matter of moving in only having to hybridize some monkey on the surface for a slave and bed buddy for sex if need be I guess, and it is possible they are no longer here and what is left is offspring hybrids smarter than us. It is very hard to put it all together but I'll be watching your vid here shortly. thanks

[STR]

Oh rats. Not a video but good none the less. I'll read it. I've read his stuff before. I like most of what he does as I recall.

[heyokah]

Oh rats. Not a video but good none the less. I'll read it. I've read his stuff before. I like most of what he does as I recall.

If you prefer a video, here's the one where the transcript was from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ALLUuvsVkM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Chester]

Stewart Swerdlow wrote up a list of "qualities" of the "Illuminati" which I suspect was (at the very least) inspired by the Alpha Draconis Reptilian race -


By Stewart Swordlow ("Blue Blood, True Blood")

What is the difference between the Illuminati and you?


They do not have a victim mentality. Their mind patterns tell them that they are invincible. They believe that no one can stop them.

They do not have an inferiority complex. They do not feel "less than" anyone.

They do not have low self worth issues. No one can make them feel bad about themselves.

They do not have guilt issues. They believe they are justified in everything that they do.

They do not have issues of lack. They know they have the time and resources for whatever they need.

They do not live in denial. They know who and what they are, and are proud of it.

They do not place limitations on themselves. They believe that they are limitless, and prove this every day. They can reach anyone, anywhere on the globe, and beyond, at any time.

They do have high levels of self worth. Not only do family and friends reinforce this, but so does the media, and the average person on the street. People everywhere honor them wherever they go, wanting to be included in their lives in some way, no matter how small.

They do believe that they are superior. There is no doubt in their minds about how great they are. They even segregate themselves from the rest of society. They interact with others outside their circles only enough to garner the support of the masses.

They do believe that they deserve the best. They have the best that physical reality has to offer, as previously stated.

They do have a winner's mentality. There is no question in their minds that they will win at whatever they set out to do, even if it takes years. They carefully lay out their plans, and strategically carry it out on a global scale.

They do know their purpose. They do not have to search for their purpose. There is no doubt in their mind what they are here to do.

They do know that they have secret knowledge. They can access any information that they need about anything at any time, as well as make decisions about what to reveal to the masses.

They do know that they have the power to influence society. They do not sit around thinking about how to do it "some day." They do it now!

They do have a global consciousness. They view the entire world as their playground. They are not myopic in any way.

These mind patterns, and more, are a natural part of who and what they are. All of these mind patterns are reinforced every minute that they breathe. Think about this. Learn from them. Know their strengths, because this is what they will use against you. Know your weaknesses, because this is what they will use against you. They will teach you, if you let them. Learn now from a proactive stance rather than later from a reactive stance.

When you change your mind pattern, the reflection must change. When this happens, you will no longer perceive the Illuminati as a threat. They will instead be remembered as beings who took the time to teach you about who and what you really are. In the meantime, study them closely. They are some of your greatest teachers.

[Sirius White]

Oh they exist. They just used Icke to disinform the whole thing by overfocusing and generalizing it all towards them.


Also, the term "reptilian" is racist to them. There are so many different kinds from different places (Orion, Draco, OUR OWN PLANET, outer solar system, Tau CETI, ETC).

[Chester]

Oh they exist. They just used Icke to disinform the whole thing by overfocusing and generalizing it all towards them.


Also, the term "reptilian" is racist to them. There are so many different kinds from different places (Orion, Draco, OUR OWN PLANET, outer solar system, Tau CETI, ETC).

That is why I distinguished the specific sub race (Alpha Draconis) within the Reptilian race which my intuition suggests is primarily inspiring the "Illuminati."

All types of "creatures of creation" are commonly referred to as "races" - example, the lovely "Human race." Within the Human race we have all sorts of sub categories such as Hispanic, Caucasian, Asian as well as non-terrestrial Human sub races, etc.

Also, the Dracos I know don't give a hoot what labels anyone may place on them... they laugh at those things - silly ego stuff to them.

[DNA]

The Lacerta tape was probably the most credible "claim" from an alien ive ever heard in my life, and boy have i ran through some claims lol...
Ive listened to it 3 times... I found it astonishing, And refreshing in a way. I think it is genuine.

I agree.
The information is amazing.
Many times I'm at a loss as to why more folks are not interested in this material.

I can understand if it's because the idea is so unbelievable, but I do not think this is it.
I for one think it's hard for folks to get over rose colored glasses of pigeon holing the reptilians into being the enemies of mankind.
I also think the Lacerta interview addresses this in a manner of speaking.

The interview talks about genetic tinkering aliens who arrived on this planet and messed with our DNA.
The interview also states that part of this alien intervention injected an irrational fear of all things reptilian into the finished product of mankind, knowing that a race of ancient earth evolved reptilians lived on the planet.

I think the interview is fascinating on so many levels.




Stewart Swerdlow wrote up a list of "qualities" of the "Illuminati" which I suspect was (at the very least) inspired by the Alpha Draconis Reptilian race -


By Stewart Swordlow ("Blue Blood, True Blood")

What is the difference between the Illuminati and you?


They do not have a victim mentality. Their mind patterns tell them that they are invincible. They believe that no one can stop them.

They do not have an inferiority complex. They do not feel "less than" anyone.

They do not have low self worth issues. No one can make them feel bad about themselves.

They do not have guilt issues. They believe they are justified in everything that they do.

They do not have issues of lack. They know they have the time and resources for whatever they need.

They do not live in denial. They know who and what they are, and are proud of it.



I find this excerpt excellent.
For the record Swerdlow's writings are top notch. I often hope very much so that they are not true.
Some horrifying stuff in his books.

[DNA]

the reptoids have pulled the devils trick , convincing people they don't exsist ... after seeing so many , I quit looking or speaking about them ...the mental block to their exsistence is powerful , a veil that is not easily removed ... it' all up to the individual and their own personal awareness ...

Hi Ghostrider

We both being pretty big fans of Billy Meier, I was curious as to your thoughts here.
Meier as far as I know has refused to acknowledge the existance of a reptilian race.

Do you have any information I do not in this regard.

Just looking for some information here.

[Tyy1907]

Heres a vid describing ET/ED's kicking some reptilian ass. Julien Wells has telepathic contact with a group of Pleidians. See what you think.


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[naste.de.lumina]

Ethiopia National Museum - The eyes of the bust of woman (http://willdoherty.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/DSCN3869.JPG)

[Tyy1907]

Ethiopia National Museum - The eyes of the bust of woman (http://willdoherty.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/DSCN3869.JPG)

I'm interested to know what that statue signifies, was it discussed earlier in the thread?

[naste.de.lumina]

Ethiopia National Museum - The eyes of the bust of woman (http://willdoherty.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/DSCN3869.JPG)

I'm interested to know what that statue signifies, was it discussed earlier in the thread?

Apparently it was not discussed.

Enlarge the picture and watch the eyes of the statue.

I posted the picture of the statue with the intention of presenting a circumstantial evidence about existence (in this case old) of reptilians here on Earth.

Ethiopia is also known to be theoretically located where the 'Garden of Eden', besides being the land where the Queen of Sheba ruled.

Note that the image does not have the 'common' features an African woman.

[Ahnung-quay]

The face of the woman of the bust kind of looks like Cameron Diaz.

[Tyy1907]

I thought she was kinda hot before, now........well ok, still hot.

[Ahnung-quay]

Do you think she's a clone too?

[Tyy1907]

Do you think she's a clone too?

I've been listening to the Lacerta interview lately and in that she states that she can make herself look like an attractive brown haired human female just by projecting that into the minds of people that see her. They have developed their minds in that way.