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Marcelo Mendes
8th October 2010, 18:26
Friends.

I have been following the threads and new posts here and in other sites. Theres is a question that I never saw been asked or answered. The question is Why?

I donīt have doubts about the hidden agenda of the PTB, the Illuminattiīs and the skulls and bones, I donīt have any doubt about the ET/Alien existence, I donīt have any doubt about the agendas that leaded us to the gulf of Mexico Oil spill, the H1n1 vaccines. I have no doubt about the economic crisis that is being cooked in order bring us into many different crisis among the world that are going to potentialize the chances of the WWIII occurrance. I read many different books, sites, blogs whistleblowers etc.

It is very clear to me that very soon the carpet is going to be so small to cover all the trash below it and something very big is about to happen. Naturally or created by men.

My question is WHY? Why all these things are happening? What is the proffit to the winner?

Iīm pretty convinced that the real battle is not happening here in earth. Today I saw a picture that kind of synthesizes a thought. You are not a body that has a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.

The real deal is in the astral plane. Everything here is like a hologram. Nothing it is the way it seems to be. It is a matrix inside the matrix. And after the body dies we are free. Our soul becomes free. And hypothetically saying we grow and develop. We are able to see and learn with our mistakes.

What is going to happen with us after death, if all the tragedies cames to happen? What happens if we are more developed that the energy level of the earth? Are we going to a more developed planned if we are developed enough or what? If the PTB knows that too, why they are doing all of this?

Does it make any sense that the PTB does not care about their souls after their deaths? What is the meaning of having all of us death and free in the astral plane, to decide to go to other planets and places? Waht is the meaning if they lead us to a situation that is going to free us from their slavery and poor rules? Why is so important to them that earth belongs only to them and with out us? What it is behind of everything? What is beeing hiden from us? And WHY?

Sorry if you think that it is strange, but it is the way I feel. Everything is strange and nothing seems to make sense. I realy donīt understand the sadness of this world. I live like if i was in a video game. Sometimes I donīt see through my eyes. I feel my self out side the game acting in it through my body.

I would appreciate to find some guys that feel and think the same.

Namaste

MM:crazy:

shadowstalker
8th October 2010, 18:29
Read Patricia Cori's Serian Revelation trilogy, it might help.

Solphilos
8th October 2010, 19:44
Why is everything the way it is? Because it has to be something ;)

What we are now experiencing is happening for a reason, there must be something to be gained, some lesson to learn, or else it would not occur in this manner and other events would take place in their stead.
The divine is all, it encompasses everything, there is no thing that is not a part of it. If these things were not supposed to occur, or if they were 'wrong', trust me, they would not be happening. :)

ponda
9th October 2010, 09:38
From one perspective this reality might be this way so as to provide us with a unique awakening experience.If things were all nice and peachy then it might be more difficult to awaken.Yes things are all upside down and wrong but it might be supposed to be like this so people notice it more easily and start to think about why it is the way it is.

Fredkc
9th October 2010, 13:31
Does it make any sense that the PTB does not care about their souls after their deaths?
And WHY?
No.
Madness.

Mostly, things are the way they are because people subscribe to some form of "non-co-operational gathering" with them at the center. From Robber Barons to Communists, everyone wants a system where one group do the go getting, and another decides what to do with it.

I think the "real deal" is tied to an innate nature to be free. Everyone (I think) also knows when that is being abused.

Given the opportunity, most people will figure out how to get by on 10% of what they create, and willingly give the other 90% to anyone who needs it. But come to their door demanding it, and they will begrudge giving even 10%.

"Fear is the mind killer". This is how we wind up with all sorts of plans whereby "I am free", and you obey. Oh, it always gets dressed up as something else, but in the end, there you are. The most difficult thing to do in this atmosphere is to allow others the same freedom you want.

Once you go that road, your attention is always drawn to either what some group has, or some other group doesn't. Governments get started like this, and you know what total failure those things are. ;) No matter who is in charge they all make a lie out of people's faith in creation (the act, not the object), and generosity. "From here on up, it's all downhill."

Anyway, this is why I remain convinced that freedom is a key point in getting any kind of spititual goals to manifest here in the world.

"You can't have everything. Where would you put it?" - Stephen Wright ;)

Fred

Celine
9th October 2010, 13:38
One perspective..

Cuz they can.


The other perspective

Cuz they want to.

Fredkc
9th October 2010, 13:47
"Cuz they can."

In context it reminds me of something Gore Vidal wrote to describe someone:

"It is not enough that I succeed. All others must fail."
Fred

Dale
9th October 2010, 13:48
"To hell with the cheese, let's get out of this trap!"

-A mouse

That's the best I have for this one :p

Zook
9th October 2010, 15:07
Because, because, because, because ... becOZzzzzzzzzz!

-Dorothy, with background vocals from Toto-

:yo:

BMJ
9th October 2010, 16:16
Hi Marcelo,
I think the purpose of our life on this world is to gain experience in life. Every reincarnation we have, whether it be here or on another planet, are meant to have certain experiences and grow and learn from those experiences e.g. one life you maybe a hardened criminal the next a doctor, consider how different would those experiences be?
This is also the reason our lives are finite, to gives us the opportunity to have all these different lifestyles.

Our souls may know all the experiences but it is a differnet thing to live it e.g. just like it is different to read about how to drive a car as opposed to actually taking a car for drive.

To me the world is set up as a classroom to provide us with the frame work to serve this purpose.

The ultimate reason for doing this im notexactly sure, it could be for some managerial position in gods unviverse, who knows?

ponda
9th October 2010, 16:43
We could also be coming towards the end of a cycle.The planet and us appear to have been influenced by negativity for quite some time so things might be going to be on the improve in the not too distant future

hettleman
9th October 2010, 19:28
Just another opinion...duality in 3D. When the illusion becomes more powerful than reality we will create a new reality. If we remember who we are we can rise above this paradigm and will set ourselves free. We are all gods of the most high.

noxon medem
9th October 2010, 21:46
..
- How is everything ?
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http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spesial:S%C3%B8k?search=how&sourceid=Mozilla-search
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not even a suggestion, just an option
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- and
http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Do_You_Sleep%3F
apropos Lennons 70th birthday these days ..

Victoria Tintagel
9th October 2010, 22:54
Quoting Fredkc:

I think the "real deal" is tied to an innate nature to be free. Everyone (I think) also knows when that is being abused.

Anyway, this is why I remain convinced that freedom is a key point in getting any kind of spititual goals to manifest here in the world.

Thanks Fred, I agree wholeheartedly :) Freedom is the base of creation in my nsho, it's a huge responsibility to be free.....what on Earth does Phoenix mean by that.........hmmm?
Don Juan, the teacher of Carlos Castaneda, talks about attachment and personal opinion. He says "Don't TAKE anything personal, VIEW everything as an illusion, but ACT as if everything and every little detail matters". I think that is profound, we live in a physical body, touch form and express our love through form, poems or kisses. Does this make sense at all ?:)Tint.

MzVaFf
11th October 2010, 18:13
Hi Marcelo,
I think the purpose of our life on this world is to gain experience in life. Every reincarnation we have, whether it be here or on another planet, are meant to have certain experiences and grow and learn from those experiences e.g. one life you maybe a hardened criminal the next a doctor, consider how different would those experiences be?
This is also the reason our lives are finite, to gives us the opportunity to have all these different lifestyles.

Our souls may know all the experiences but it is a differnet thing to live it e.g. just like it is different to read about how to drive a car as opposed to actually taking a car for drive.

To me the world is set up as a classroom to provide us with the frame work to serve this purpose.

The ultimate reason for doing this im notexactly sure, it could be for some managerial position in gods unviverse, who knows?

I might be a little off with this , but this has always scared me to think about....

I think in a way like this, but I don't want to think like this. If liven life as for my self should not be like this. Not because of jealously or wanting, because I have always worked hard for everything I have in life and I'm still a bottom feeder. But So to speak as in the way life is on earth. I always thought that when you die your energy would be developed into another being as was stated before. One life you can be poor the next life you can be rich. all data from the mind or inner energy will be erased and you will have no recollection of the time before. And your energy will start a new developing process into your being on this planet, Good Bad or Indifferent. I hope this is not true because the way I think and feel from the beginning of earths time as we know it was always a power trip with Good VS Evil Or so called Balance of human nature, and I feel that us Humans should not live in that concept of being. When I die I hope that I go to a place where there is peace and harmony threw out my next life span. That I won't have to live in the filth and slavery that we all live in today. I hope that if a change is coming to this planet that all the BAD people and bad things will be recycled into dust on a far away planet. Because I feel liven life should not be like this as I know it today. Just a little on how I feel about the reincarnation battle I have within myself.

BMJ
12th October 2010, 11:48
Hi MzVaFf,
Your not a bottom feeder your are a success :), because you seem to want to be the best person you can be.
In my opinion success is measured by the quality of the relationships you have with friends & family. Financial wealth is not a measure of success at all and don't let any make you feel that's the case. Yeah you need money to get by and its great to have more to make your life easier, but it only makes life easier.

I understand it may seem disturbing that I am saying that you may be incarniated as an evil person. But I think that if all existence is off god then all aspect of our world are different faceats off god, therefore to grow we need to experience life in all its forms. The good, bad & ugly. Having said that I am happy that this time around I like you am also trying to do my best at being good, (even thou I do fail most of the time). :)

MzVaFf
12th October 2010, 15:13
Thank you for the reply I need to have a friend like you in my life.I have one very very close friend outside my family, other people outside my family, well lets just say we are not on the same page ;)
But I sometimes drive myself to madness thinking about what the next life is going to be like. I know sometimes it's such a waste of time and energy in this life to drill your brain with all of these what if's in till your sick to the stomach. I very seldom get like this anymore. But when I think deep into myself it crawls all over me like a wild animal.
I have always been into David Wilcocks works and I feel that it was him that really put the hook into me, and made me start seeing things in a different perceptive.
one of my favorites from him is 2012 Event Horizon series. Everyone has to have a favorite :)

There so many unanswered questions and feelings I have. But I;m very grateful I found a good home here to learn and expand my mind even more.
Thank You All....

BMJ
13th October 2010, 01:48
Hi MzVaFf,
Your welcome. I can understand my circumstances sound similiar to yours. I think whatever seem to resonate with you is OK, if David Wilock is what interest you that's great.
Personally what George Kavassilas has had to say made perfect sense to me.

It nice to have you here and thank you for your thoughts.

MzVaFf
13th October 2010, 13:56
Hi MzVaFf,
Your welcome. I can understand my circumstances sound similiar to yours. I think whatever seem to resonate with you is OK, if David Wilock is what interest you that's great.
Personally what George Kavassilas has had to say made perfect sense to me.

It nice to have you here and thank you for your thoughts.

I would like to say again to all I'm a Newbie and I'm not the sharpest knife in the draw. But I am learning more and more everyday visiting the forum and going into the chat room.
Most of the time I just sit back with nice cup of coffee and pay attention to what the members talk about :). But I'm going to look into George Kavassilas.
Thank you again
Mike

Beth
13th October 2010, 16:04
I would like to say again to all I'm a Newbie and I'm not the sharpest knife in the draw. But I am learning more and more everyday visiting the forum and going into the chat room.
Most of the time I just sit back with nice cup of coffee and pay attention to what the members talk about :). But I'm going to look into George Kavassilas.
Thank you again
Mike

Hope you don't pay attention to what I talk about :tongue1:

MzVaFf
13th October 2010, 16:14
Hope you don't pay attention to what I talk about :tongue1:

I do I do ;)