Dwight D Eisenhower: "They are not from outer space"

[Atlas]

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General Dwight D Eisenhower

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[sunflower]

Buares, I am impressed that you're the first person (I think!) who posted this on Avalon. So now we focus on underground land and sea bases as well as time travel. That narrows the field somewhat! No doubt there is communication with other planets and the moon via jump rooms and/or nano technology. No asteroid or radiation belts to contend with.

[Operator]

He did not say whether he thought flying saucers existed

What a strange remark is that ... how can an air force official tell him it's not from outer space
if they would not even exist in the first place?

So, what else ... are those then the flying saucers that they met in the antarctic during operation high-jump?

How clever that the article then diverts into less significant stuff. Kind of diffuses the hot intro line :rolleyes:
Although the remark that 80% is explainable can be read as 20% is unexplainable of course. Something really
bad for the air force to have to admit.

[Agape]

Buares, I am impressed that you're the first person (I think!) who posted this on Avalon. So now we focus on underground land and sea bases as well as time travel. That narrows the field somewhat! No doubt there is communication with other planets and the moon via jump rooms and/or nano technology. No asteroid or radiation belts to contend with.

But that's really but really 'wild speculation' given the content -context of the short article, don't you think so Sunflower ?

I think it's their typical plausible denial type of report about 80% of sightings being explainable at atmospheric phenomena , weather balloons and other sky events ( no doubt the percentage of those is even higher ) .

It says nothing about the remaining 20 -5 % , or even less ..

I mean as your posting too can be interpreted in thousands possible ways .


;)

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Projekt Riese and Projekt Die Glocke were both intimately related to the theory of exocivilization.

It would correlate very precisely with the ending of WWII and the onset of "UFO" sightings near military installations.

"Iron Sky" was a fictional film loosely based on plausible fact... that the Nazis (terrestrial group) developed the "flying saucer" style craft,
and the "UFO/alien" propaganda covered it up -- that the Nazis were capable in practical terms of producing technology that far outstrips anything we've produced...

It's pretty scary, what the human mind can accomplish when it's driven by primitive urges...

[Operator]

and the "UFO/alien" propaganda covered it up

I am still intrigued and puzzled by the statements of Bill Cooper who coined the term "Ufoology" in 1993.
Perhaps I need to start a thread for debate on this some day ...

Bill Cooper was the one who woke me up on the alien subject, first with his revealing videos followed by the book "Behold a pale horse".
But a few years later he became convinced of the opposite, a deception in play by TPTB.

Then there is also the controversy in the Roswell case. Joseph Farrell leans toward something from the Nazis rather
than extra terrestrial. I think it was Douglas Dietrich who said it was Japanese related. I already mentioned operation
high-jump, which relates saucers to the Antarctic and not from outer space either.

I think there is still some homework to do on this topic.

[Snookie]

I think the most likely scenario (not an either or situation) is that they come from different star systems AND there are also some from here.

[T Smith]

Inter-dimensional would be another scenario.

[Atlas]

From "The News (http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/11203235)", Adelaide, Thursday 16 December 1954 :

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[WhiteFeather]

Maybe Eisenhower is correct. Point is I have often pondered the idea that EB 's/ ET 's etc., could possibly be us (humans) in the future, and the reason is im quite sure that our military components and their personel are experimenting and or utilizing time travel. Just a thought here peeps. Many apologies if this is confusing to some. Hey you never know.

[ghostrider]

The military is afraid , ET can buzz where they want, when they want , and the military control freaks can't do beans about it ... They immediately paint ET as the boogyman coming to get you , they're just waiting to invade and take power from us , tell us what to do , and military folks think they run everything and they are the smartest ... poo ... they only kill people and break things , anymore they don't even defend the constitution , if they did , the current government would already be in battle with them ...

[Atlas]

...military folks think they run everything...

Michael E. Salla (http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-80.htm) wrote:


Source A said that many defense projects are subcontracted out to corporations. While DARPA may have started as the lead agency, they then subcontracted out to US and international contractors, e.g., SAIC, Lockheed, BAE, Airbus, EADS, etc. He pointed out that Corporations are much better at keeping secrets than the military.

Small companies often chosen to do black projects, e.g., 300 employees. They can more easily enforce discipline to keep the projects secret. The US Defense Industry is filled with projects given to corporations. From our discussion, it was clear that there was much concern over the prominent role played by corporations in controlling information and access to extraterrestrial related projects.

[Operator]

I think the most likely scenario (not an either or situation) is that they come from different star systems AND there are also some from here.


Inter-dimensional would be another scenario.

Yes, of course ... we should be open minded toward all possibilities.

To begin with we have the tenacious story of the Vril society channeling (inter dimensional?) messages
from Aldebaran about how to build an anti-gravity spaceship (physical, Nazi technology, terrestrial).

I've seen some space movies lately that mention the problem of micro-meteorites.
This interesting documentary also mentions them ...
doN4t5NKW-k

If they are a problem for spaceships in orbit they certainly should be a problem for
space ships traveling, especially at high speeds! The faster you go the more difficult
it becomes to avoid even larger pieces. You can't repair while you are traveling at
high speed ... This, on top of other facts, made me conclude that physical travel in
space is very difficult or maybe even impossible.

So we should think more out of the box like:
if it takes too long to travel the road from A to B and you can't go any faster then you should maybe think about adapting the road :playball:

P.S. or indeed change time !

[Camilo]

Yeah right, like everything else they tell the public = BS!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

...military folks think they run everything...

Michael E. Salla (http://exopolitics.org/Exo-Comment-80.htm) wrote:


Source A said that many defense projects are subcontracted out to corporations. While DARPA may have started as the lead agency, they then subcontracted out to US and international contractors, e.g., SAIC, Lockheed, BAE, Airbus, EADS, etc. He pointed out that Corporations are much better at keeping secrets than the military.

Small companies often chosen to do black projects, e.g., 300 employees. They can more easily enforce discipline to keep the projects secret. The US Defense Industry is filled with projects given to corporations. From our discussion, it was clear that there was much concern over the prominent role played by corporations in controlling information and access to extraterrestrial related projects.


Thank you for posting this.

Noted and absorbed!!

[Operator]

Inter-dimensional would be another scenario.

Sometimes it doesn't have to be as complicated as that.

Example:
If some natives are used to living on an island they are probably familiar with swimming around and using a canoe in their direct vicinity.
According to their experience and knowledge larger distances are not possible or too dangerous.

But then all of a sudden an airplane passes by and easily bridges the distance in a shorter time avoiding dangers at sea.

It wasn't another dimension but simply the use of another medium for travel.

Water is connecting the island with other destinations but the air does too !!

You simply need to figure out that you can float on water but also in the air.

So, do we know all the usable media (as plural of medium) for travel yet?
Since we (or at least the public in general) do not even understand what the relation between electricity and
magnetism is the solutions may be less exotic than we think.

Someone said (I forgot who) that anti-gravity technology might be easier than building a computer.

[anonymous]

my privacy standards have changed - 5/10/16 - apologies for the many edits of public comments

[boja]

All we have here is the word of "a US Air Force Official"

Do you really believe that ?

The government and the military have been lying for over 60 years, remember !

[Atlas]

From "The World's News", July 24, 1954 :

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[jsb_swampfox]

I just posted this on another but related thread: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?67026-Vedic-Echos-of-World-Wars--Ultraterrestials-and-the-Play-of-Gods-&p=781727&viewfull=1#post781727

[kersley]

It would make perfect sense if Et'S are from round the corner.. Anything not of this world would have to acclimatized to function as we do.
Why are all these saucers silver in colour? Why use metal?.. Metal is something we humans use here on earth, why would an advance race from millions/billions light years away use the same components? What's next, saucers with xenon headlights and leather seats?
Inner earth and underwater bases is very plausible.